Ask Charlie Anything 201: What Causes Crime? Are Police Racist? All in a Day's Work?
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I just wanted to talk to you about your 1350 stat. And one of your clips, you said that black people make up 30% of the population, 50% of the crowd. That is just wrong. No, it's actually higher than 50%. But yeah. Right.

Okay, so I said crime. That is just not true. You're talking about murder, and you're going straight to murder. Oh, yeah, you're right. I should be way more specific. Yeah, you should be specific. That blacks tend to kill more people than Hispanics, whites, and Asians combined. You're totally right. So my question for you is, are black people inherently more violent than other races? No, but it's on you. Why do black people kill so many people? Because of segregation, because of redlining, because of all of...

Wait, hold on. Blacks are killing a lot of people because of segregation that ended 70 years ago? That still happens today. What segregation happens today? Today? Okay. No, no, guys, please be nice. Tell me what segregation happens today against black people. Okay, yes. No, obviously not. Segregation does not happen today. Segregation still affects black people today. How? Because the...

Guys, be nice. No, no, but no, but no, no. Hold on. I know. I know. I got rushed up here, bro. It's all good. You got two things to do. You got to tell me how black people are still affected by segregation and then tell me why that results in so many of them killing people. Okay, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Right? So once segregation ended, right, black people...

when slavery ended, actually, black people were just forced wherever, wherever, right? So they had nowhere to go. And then there was laws put in place to put them into prison and after... It's okay. No, no. What's your name? Go.

What's your name? Jackson. Jackson. It takes a lot of courage to come up here. Yeah. Let's just take a deep breath. Okay. I'm not here to pick on you. No, I appreciate it. No, no, it's okay. I know this can be very intimidating to get in a crowd like this. So just take a deep breath. Let me make your argument. I'm going to make your argument for you, and I'm going to tell you why I think it's wrong. Okay? Okay, yeah. Is that fair? Yeah, sure. Okay, so the argument that is being made that you want to make is that there's legacies of injustice. Okay?

And that those legacies impact one generation after the other. And when those things get handed down, you have what is a system or a systemic issue that isn't just isolated in 2024. So the argument that you're making is that what happened in 1954 does impact 2024 of decade after decade after decade. Let me tell you my response to that.

Of course, there is some truth to that. However, every culture, every person in this audience can point to issues that families or generations prior had that were able to overcome. So the question is, why is it that black America is

is one of the only populations, that and Native American populations, that have not been able to overcome such evil horrors and injustices. Here's my perspective, and I want to hear what you have to say, is that the number one way to keep people out of poverty, lower the crime rate, and have a better society is whether or not you have a mom and a dad around, which we agree that's an ideal. Yeah? Cool. So what happened in 1964 is that 25% of black youth were raised by a single mom.

Today, it's nearly 75%, about 70%. So that means that one in four black kids will have a father around. Only one in four. That's the number one issue happening in the country, and it's not because of systemic racism. I'd like to hear what you have to say about that. Okay, so I think I misjudged you at first. Like, when you brought up the 1350 stat, I had, like, just assumed that it was, like, inherently, like,

eugenics based kind of, you know? So, and that's where my came from. Like, I think we are on the same page that like, we know what the problem is. And that's, that's what I mean. Like, thank you for saying that. Cause I think we actually have a lot more in common in this country than the media would ever believe. Definitely. Definitely. Right. And like what,

But my point was I was trying to say is I don't think that we're doing enough to help these black communities catch up where as like they're underfunded and they're not and they're over policed. And there's these these factors that are contributing to, like you said, these single parent households. So so we're not going to agree on this. This is where we'll disagree. And that's OK.

I have more of a view of Thomas Sowell on this, where he believes it's far more about culture, values, and worldview than stuff and over-policing. I believe there's not enough police in black neighborhoods. You're going to disagree with that. Let's not even get into it, okay? But I think we can ask a question, and I want your opinion. Why is it that the single motherhood rate in black America went from 25% to 75% over 50 years where America did become less racist?

Like, why did it? Yeah. So what caused black America to go from one of the strongest nuclear family communities in the country to now the weakest by far?

I can't answer your question.

getting married and staying with one woman for your entire life is elevated and celebrated. No, not at all. I think that's the problem.

I think the problem stems from a lack of education. I think these communities don't have, I don't think a lot of them have the proper education or learning from previous to realize what will lead them to a more successful future. I think that if we funded more education in these systems, then these men wouldn't be so focused on stuff like education.

like, gang violence to get protection or money or other stuff like that and then end up in prison and then be... and then end up with their child being... having a single mother. Fair enough. So...

Sorry, I didn't know. No, no, it's great. So there's a lot of examples that there's some merit to your argument, but it's more about the quality of education than the amount of money we spend on it. Such as that's why I'm a big proponent of school choice and educational vouchers and opposing the teacher unions. But the core is this, is that the number one predictor for a kid of any skin color, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, is whether or not dad is around.

And I look as an outsider, albeit at current black culture, right? From the athletes to the rap music to the music, I don't see the nuclear family elevated.

Nor is it an internal black cultural expectation. Now, I will ask some of the white individuals here in this audience. OK, if you guys got pregnant and all of a sudden you didn't even know who the father was, was around. Well, how would your parents react? Not great. Right. Yes. Unfortunately, in black America, this is kind of accepted. Would you agree?

I can't say. I grew up around a lot of white people, so I can't say. But it is a fact that it is accepted, right? So that's the problem. The problem is that it's a cultural norm that has then turned into the cycle of poverty. The cycle of poverty can break very quickly if fathers stayed with the women they impregnate. But most of these fathers aren't just leaving. A large majority of these fathers are ending up in prison. Good point. Why do you go to prison?

Because you commit crime. But because the prison system has been targeted against minorities. Again, we're not going to agree here. That's okay. There's actually under-enforcement of the laws. For example, only half of murders in Chicago get solved.

Right, but are they all black people though? Almost all of them, yeah. If they're not solved, how do we know that they're black people? Well, because it's a black victim in a black neighborhood by a black gang. So it's like you can assume at a great approximation that in the west side of Chicago... So 50% of the murders in Chicago that go unsolved are all black people? Not all, no, I said 85%. But we don't know who the perp is. But again, if you have a black victim at 2 a.m. in a black neighborhood...

It's reasonable to say that it was a black on black crime. 90% of murders after 2 a.m. in Chicago are black on black crimes. I'm from Chicago. I happen to know it. But like half of all murders in Chicago are unsolved, which that means half of all murderers are walking free. So we have an under enforcement of laws. OK, everybody, I'll have something to offer you today. Something absolutely free. Hillsdale College, the great American college with a huge and effective educational effort on

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The ladies here in this audience should know this. You know that there's over 600,000 rape kits in this country that have not even been opened or tested, which means that there are women who say that they've been raped and their kits are not even put in the system. There are probably hundreds of thousands of rapists that walk free in this country. Yeah, no, our system is totally terrible. No, no, what I'm saying is that's an under-enforcement of laws, though. Yeah, because our system is terrible. No, no, I know, but you said we have an over-enforcement. I don't think we have enough people in jail.

You don't think we have enough people? No, like I said, half of all murderers walk free. We don't even know who they are. Okay, but I... Okay, and I... Sure, whatever. But I'm talking... I don't think that, like, black... Like, I don't think that black people are as... Like, half...

more than 50 percent of exonerations from prison are black people like a black person is more likely than any other race to be tried for a crime that they did not commit and then to be released from prison for a crime that they did not commit they're they're they're that's not totally true let's pretend that it is it's because they're in front of the justice system more because of the high crime but let's try to find some agreement i'm talking i'm talking percentages percentages of exonerations like they're no it's because they're in the system more though

It's because you have more cases. But anyway, let's pretend that's true. Let's pretend the system's totally racist. Actually, there's more white people in the system because white people make up like what? No, no, for sure. Yeah. So you're just incorrect there. Right? Like you're doing to me. But they don't commit as many crimes. Okay. So let's be cordial. Let's be cordial. You're not being, so let's calm down a little bit. Okay? You're not being. Am I being sweet to this guy? Okay. But...

All right, let me ask you one question in closing, though. If you could, okay, if you could say to black America, here is more money, more stuff, more housing, or more fathers, which one would you choose?

More funding. I don't think because fathers, I think that you need to solve the problem from the bottom. I don't think you can just plant a bunch of fathers in and they're going to stay there. Like you said, they're just going to like like in the culture. It's already it's not part of the culture. So they would just it's a hypothetical, meaning if the fathers were to stay, were to stay. Yeah.

Okay, yeah, sure. Like, I just knew for 100% fact that they were going to stay. No, no, we have agreement. So during the BLM stuff four years ago, did we hear anything from the national BLM leaders or anybody about black dads staying around with women they impregnate? Did anyone mention that? No. Why? They're actually, it's the fundamental issue. The fundamental issue is if you have a father around, less likely to commit crimes.

More likely to graduate high school, more likely to get a job, less likely to be in poverty. But how do we get there? Like, this is what I was like, how do we get there? Well, the first of which is you must raise the standard of expectation, both internally and externally in the black community, that we're not going to put up with men because we're both men.

fleeing the women that they impregnate. That we will say to men that flee the women that they impregnate, you're a loser, we're not going to tolerate you, we're not going to be friends with you, that you're the scum of the earth, that if you impregnate a woman and you just run away from them. Do we do that right now? Most definitely.

I don't think all men do. I think this is very common... What's the word? I think this is very common in just masculine culture in general is that men won't do that too. I actually think it's the opposite of masculine culture too. I think it's not feminine. It's something else. Just...

fleeing from the difficult. Well, no, but I'm saying in male circles, I feel like that is something that males would praise, or at least around my age range. That's something that happens. So then I think we need to demand better. Thank you for coming up to the mic. I know it's not easy. And God bless you. Thank you so much. Have a good day, sir. Yeah, who's up? Hey, Charlie.

When I graduated from this university in 2016, I was a raging liberal. Since then, I've gone through the three conservatizing events. I've bought a house, had a family, had kids. And, well, one, I realized that my degree was sort of a scam. I got fired from my job in marketing for my beliefs. And now as my kids enter the school system, I decided I want to jump in and fight fire with fire. I start with Washer County School District.

taken to pay cut to become a teacher next semester. Do you have any advice of how I can uphold my values that my family and I have while still

maintaining my job and that it's hard to do both it's hard to hold your values and also maintain your job and so the ideal is find a job that shares your values and i know that's easier said than done uh but we need to have people and i know i'm just saying this as an aside that value truth and courage more than just career expediency and i know that's difficult but that's the best piece of advice i have awesome thank god bless anyone okay thanks yes hey how's it going

I'm Andrew. So I wanted to talk with you about, again, the 1350. So earlier I did chime in when you were talking with Jackson. You said 2020 with the George Floyd protests that nobody was talking about the nuclear family, which I think that they're separate issues.

Okay, but that's fine. But can you first acknowledge that no one was talking about the nuclear family? Yeah, 100%. Okay, great. Why do you think that no one ever talks about the nuclear family at all publicly? Maybe a lack of importance. I mean, obviously, it's very important that you have a father and a mother growing up. That's very crucial to childhood. We agree. Yes.

But to get to my point, in 2020 with the George Floyd protests. Riots. Riots or protests. Depends. Were they riots or protests? All right. Well, we disagree on that. But to get to my point. Sure. To get to my point. Were they mostly peaceful? I believe so. Yes.

Please let Andrew talk. Let Andrew talk. It takes a lot of courage to come up. I'm going to defend you. Please continue. No, it's okay. People can disagree, but I'd just like to get my point off. So I think police brutality and the nuclear family are two separate issues, okay? So I think that there is over-policing in black neighborhoods. Would you agree?

Not even close. Under-policing, actually. And don't take my word for it. Again, like half of all murders in Chicago aren't even solved. That's bad, right? Okay, but that's Chicago, okay? Well, but again, only 60% in Baltimore are solved. It's across the country. But Chicago is America's third largest city, New York, L.A., Chicago. Let's just pause right here. In order to solve murders, you need detectives, which are police officers. So we should agree that if you commit a murder, we should find out who it is, right? Yeah. Okay.

So half of all murders are not solved. You can fact check me on this. Chicago murder solve rate 50%. You guys can all fact check me on this. So should we need more police then? I never said I disagree about defunding the police. No, no, no. But you said over-policed. I don't think we have enough. So show me an example. Show me a city where we have too many police and be specific.

Well, I can't come up with any specific examples. Well, but you said that we're over-policed. You've got to give me some specifics. It can't be an abstraction. You've got to tell me the city in America that is over-policed, because I'd be interested to know about that city. Well...

Like I said, I don't have any specific examples, but I'm going to... Because it doesn't exist, though. I'm going to pivot really quick, if that's okay. Before you pivot, I just want to just teach you something, Andrew. It's easy to say that you're over-policed. You've got to back up the data. There's no incident in the country of any city that's over-policed. It does not exist. We have a police staffing shortage in this country. We don't have enough police.

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Really, to get back to my point, I think police brutality and the culture, black culture, is two separate things. I think police officers kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes is a completely separate incident. What was George Floyd's cause of death?

Asphyxiation. Actually, the original medical report by the Hennepin County Examiner said that it was a drug overdose. Did you know that? But that was hired by the state. An independent coroner reported that it was asphyxiation. You might be right, but if you guys love truth, you should go and dive into the Derek Chauvin court documents. There is a lot more to the George Floyd situation than anyone ever told you.

It really is. And it's a great video. And I'm not even you might be right. But there's so much more to that circumstance of George Floyd that was overdosing on drugs. Right. That also, did you know that what Derek Chauvin did to George Floyd was actually in the police manual training? It was completely justified and was trained by his superiors to do. Now, let me ask you a question. How many unarmed black people on average are killed by police a year?

Well, I'd have to look up that statistic. Guess. Probably over 50%. It's 15 people a year. 15. And that's not my number. That's the Washington Post that came up with it and did a national crime survey. And they even were generous and they said unarmed, meaning you had a weapon nearby or you had a knife that you dropped. So you're talking about police brutality for an incident that happens 15 times a year in a country of 350 million people.

Well... How come... My question to you then, how come you see it so often on social media? You don't. That's a good question, Andrew, because you're being propagandized. You're being brainwashed is the name of this tour. And I'm here to tell you that...

You see it. So you actually don't see it as often as you think this is emotional targeted video. And to have you see, think that something exists when it doesn't, we look at the data like, Oh, it's 15 times a year, 15 times a year. And it's even lower than that. But do you know what does happen a lot every single year?

is that there's over 100,000 drug overdoses every single year. We don't talk about that. We should. We should. I totally agree, right? But yet we have this whole thing about police brutality, and no one can ever give me examples where there's too many police, and that's okay, I'm not just picking on you. Just in general, it's easy to get caught up in the abstractions. It's easy to get caught up in the parade and in all the bedlam. But when you dive into it, you realize that it's all brainwashing, and it's propaganda. I guess what I would say in response to that is...

When you do your own independent research, you can find data to skew in any direction you want it to. But it's the Washington Post. I'm not just making this stuff up. This is the left. I'm using left wing sources here. This is not Breitbart dot com or Gateway Pundit or The Charlie Kirk Show or Daily Wire. Right. This is this is the left wing sources. And I'm not cherry picking because you said you said police brutality. So then I then pinpoint, OK, how many black people are then killed unarmed by police every year? Boom. That's the number.

In a population, by the way, where there's tens of millions of black Americans, it's an insignificant sum.

And you know that more kids are killed in urban violence going to school or walking the playground than are blacks are killed by police. We don't we don't talk about that as much. The question then is why is that this is my belief is that black America is so abused by the current mainstream media. It's abused by the Democrat Party and they don't want black Americans to think freely or independently that they have been used by as pawns by the Democrat Party for the last 60 years.

That's exactly what is happening right now. And I pray people are starting to wake up. The final thought, Andrew, uh,

I guess I don't really have anything. That's okay. I encourage you to do this. Fact check me later. Find out what the unsolved murder rate is in Chicago. See if Charlie Cook was right. Look at the Washington Post crime database and find out, was it really 15 unarmed blacks that were killed by police year by year? Sometimes as low as eight, sometimes it's 20. So the average is about 15. Okay. Go and look at the biggest lie ever told, the George Floyd documentary. Go look at the original Hennepin County medical. Don't just take my word for it. Do that research. And in that research, if you're like, oh, dang, I was lied.

Use that as what we call taking the red pill, and you'll see how deep this rabbit hole goes. Thank you. Appreciate it. Can I shake your hand? Yeah, God bless, man. Thank you. Thank you, Andrew. Give it up for Andrew. That's not easy to do. You disagree, right? Oh, is it the libertarian? Oh, my goodness. Okay. Introduce yourself. My name is Colby Silvestri. I'm a proud member of the Libertarian Party. I'm glad to see you here. So you're working on behalf of Kamala Harris here, but yeah.

Not sure how that works, but I think we disagree mostly on things of degree, like dismantling the administrative state and destroying regulations. You talk about tariffs and how they protect the American consumer, but wouldn't widespread deregulation between our industries help that more? Well, no. So I just want to be clear. Are you actively trying to get libertarians elected in Nevada? No.

No. Okay, good. All right, then fair enough. Then I shouldn't ridicule you. No, I just think it's so insane to try to get libertarians elected. A little bit of a waste of time. Totally agree, yes. So let me tell you what I'm libertarian on, and then I'll tell you what I'm not libertarian on, and then we can find out where we disagree. Is that cool? I'm very libertarian on guns.

I think that people have a God-given and able right to own weapons and that the Second Amendment shall not be infringed and that without the Second Amendment you do not have a First Amendment, a Third Amendment, a Fourth Amendment, and the Second Amendment is God-given. We agree on that, right?

I believe that the government should be severely restrained in its spying, its capacity to be able to monitor our private communications. I think you should get a warrant before that you ever are able to spy on communications. And I think the FISA statute should be completely repealed. And I think it's abused by politicians too much. Finally, I think we largely agree on war. I think the Iraq war was a mistake. The Afghanistan war was a mistake. I think us sending money to Ukraine is a total mistake. And I think that this experiment in the American empire has been terrible and awful.

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I do not think that we should have open borders and invite the people of every country on the world to come here while our own citizens are suffering and not able to get ahead as much as their parents. Right. So that's where I'm not libertarian. Secondly, and then I'll let you respond. I'm not libertarian on drug legalization.

I think that our moving towards drug legalization that starts with marijuana and eventually cocaine and then psychedelics and then heroin has been very bad for society. It increases crime. I do not like this idea that you drive every corner and there's marijuana clinics in every corner. I don't think that it has improved the well-being or the soul of this nation. So on those two things, I'm not libertarian. Please respond. Do drugs cause crime or does the drug war cause crime?

Well, people cause crime, but you also must understand what you do from a policy perspective, just using prudence and not abstractions, is what I am doing improving the livelihood of my people or is it hurting the livelihood of my people? And I could be honest, I don't know, maybe you guys disagree, but since the legalization of weed in a lot of Western states, I do not think it's increased the quality of life out West. You could disagree, though.

Maybe not for the people in jail who are incarcerated for nonviolent drug possession crimes. I think that's a good argument. Those are actually two different things, though. Decriminalizing something in the sense of how you enforce it, I can agree with. But then legalizing it so that a 19-year-old can go get a bunch of weed on the street corner. We were told a couple things when it came to the drug war. We were told that usage rates would go down.

We were told that the cartel would get super poor and that it would bankrupt the cartel. And we were told that it would not increase crime in the areas. None of those three things actually happened. We didn't end the drug war. We never ended the drug war. It's still going on right now. No, I know. So is it your perspective to decriminalize all drugs? Yes. Okay. Including heroin? Absolutely. Okay, got it. So do you think San Francisco is a good example of drug policy? Yes.

No. No. But all drugs are legal in San Francisco. I don't know if that's the case. No, it is. Yeah, I could literally, you and I could get in a car right now and you and I can get morphine, we can get heroin or fentanyl on the side of the street and shoot up together and watch the sunset over the Golden Gate Bridge. With the cops. With the cops. What? Just like right next to us, just hanging out. No, not only that, the state gives you the drugs. And the needles. Did you know that? No. That's libertarianism at play though, my friend. No.

So San Francisco has embraced libertarian... The government does not have any responsibility to distribute drugs. Fair enough. Fine. But it's not just... It's an extreme. They distribute drugs in San Francisco. In Portland, they don't enforce any drug laws. Now, I think you guys can all agree. The dirtiness and the lack of safety in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle should be a cautionary tale that maybe widespread drug legalization is a really, really bad idea. Do you guys agree?

What is your response to that? I don't have any response to that because I don't have the data on hand. Fair enough. But this is not a data argument, though. Just take a road trip. I want you to drive through San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle. Anytime in the next couple of years, I want you to think about this conversation and ask yourself, is this the best we can do as a country? And is what we are doing working? Here's my perspective. We're the wealthiest country ever where the young ladies in this audience probably don't feel safe walking the streets of San Francisco at night. Nor should you, right? No.

And I think not even here. Yeah. And by the way, what a moral failure that you can't walk your own cities at night. People say, Charlie, what are your politics? How about this? I want to be able to walk every major American city at night and enjoy it like my parents did and not have to worry about being raped, mugged or shut down. And like whatever it takes to get that done. Let's do that thing.

I think a partial solution to that is just more guns. I mean, if in California it wasn't illegal to own a gun... I do agree with that, sort of, but I think at some point, if people are showing a pattern of crime...

They shouldn't be on the street. Right. So if they're dealing drugs and smashing windows and they're holding up, you know, whatever, 7-Elevens, you should be in jail for a long time for those things. And what San Francisco, Portland and Seattle have done is that they've decriminalized no cash bail. They decriminalized it. And they basically you could get out the same day you commit a crime.

And again, I just think that this is not even political, but I guess the Republican Party is now the ambassador of this. It's so simple that if you don't feel safe in your own great cities, your leaders have failed you and they should all be fired. Thank you. One more thought. One more thought about tariffs. I want to go back to my original question. Sure. I'm very much in favor of tariffs. Yeah.

The costs are ultimately passed down to the consumer. Not always. That's interesting. So why are pickup trucks so much cheaper in America than they are in Europe? No idea. Because they're made here. You know that we heavily tariff pickup trucks more than any other car coming into the country. So how do you avoid a tariff? Make it here. So what tariffs do is they're forcing functions for overseas companies to build factories here. See, you're only looking at tariffs through a one-dimensional DC chamber of commerce lens. The way that you tell a company, oh, avoid the tariff, build the factory in Nevada.

And so, for example, you guys probably, any parents own a Toyota pickup truck? Anybody? They're actually pretty good, yeah? Look, there's a couple hands. Toyota builds all their pickup trucks here, and they avoid the 25% tariff.

So it's not a tax. It actually incentivizes homeland production and more jobs for our country. And actually, the price doesn't get passed on to the consumer. I think hands down, deregulation upon our American companies. I tend to agree with that. But I also want to live in the real world, not fantasy world. And I think that also fundamentally, you have a social contract to your people that, for example, if we have we have critical vitamin needs in this country, most of our drugs are made in China. That's bad.

We don't have to overthink it. You don't need a chart. You don't need a graph. Bad that we don't make our own drugs. That 90% of all vitamin C is made in China. You need vitamin C to live, literally. It's ascorbic acid. Make it here. So anyway, we could agree to disagree on that. I think tariffs are great forcing functions, especially if you're a wealthy country. Tariffs are really good if you're wealthy and the incumbent power. Okay. God bless you. Are you voting for Trump? Who are you voting for? Chase Oliver? Yeah. But why? He's the best candidate on the field, for sure.

So you're going to vote for someone who can't win? Yes, because my vote doesn't matter anyways. But if your vote doesn't matter, why vote at all? It's going to matter more if I vote for the candidate with the least amount of votes. It's proportionally larger. If our candidate hits the 5% threshold, that's kind of the goal. Why? Matching federal funds from the U.S. government.

which will make our party wealthier and be more competitive. So let me just be clear. So do you think that there's, from the values you care about, which is liberty, yeah, and make sure you're talking to the mic, is there no material difference to your life between Trump and Kamala? Oh, yeah. Trump way better than Kamala. Yeah, Kamala is pure evil. Kamala Harris is pure evil. No, no, it's okay. But you're in a battleground state. You can go do your 5% thing a different time.

Isn't it probably worth against like being drafted to World War III, just suck it up, put on the MAGA hat and vote for Trump? You'll think about it. You'll think about it. Yeah, I'll think about it. I'll think about it. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.