Loft Meeting: Satya Bhabha
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Okay, so we're here. We are calling a loft meeting. Lamorne is out being great, so I called in someone special to help conduct this meeting. He's an engineer. He cries at movies. He proposed twice, and he's in love with Taylor Swift, just like the rest of us. Please welcome Satya Baba, a.k.a. Shivrang Satya. Welcome to the loft. Hey, thank you so much for having me. It's nice to be with you, Hannah. Hi.

Oh my gosh, I've missed you so much. I feel emotional just looking at your face. It's always so good to see you. There's something about like fake getting married where kind of you sort of real get married in a certain way. Like we kind of fell in love in this friend way in the most beautiful way. It was so nice. And it's always nice to see you. I have such a clear like memory of me sitting in your trailer. We had like some hours and hours to wait before shooting something. And...

Yeah, it was like a real falling in love with each other. And we got to know each other's stories and how we got into the business. And yeah, it was like such a real connection. I felt like we talked about our parents a lot also, like our Indian parents and the connection between food. I know your dad loves to cook. And as we were talking about all of that stuff so much, it's so nice to see you whenever I see you and to connect here is really exciting. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Before we dive into loft meetings, we go through all of our big fan questions and people have sent in. But man, you are such a huge part of the new girl universe. And we've never really talked about that.

Do you remember how you became part of the show, how you got this part? Totally. You know, it was one of those auditions. You never really know. Is it going to go anywhere? I knew Liz a little bit from college, but we hadn't really been in touch. And it was right. I mean, you guys were blowing up. You know, it was like halfway through season two and.

Season one had picked up a huge amount of heat, but then it was just like growing in a way that like is really, really rare these days. It was rare back then, but I feel like for that momentum to just sort of snowball and build. And I remember I did the audition. The funny thing is, I remember I went into the audition and I did it both with a British accent and with an American accent. And no one could tell me which one I booked it with.

I was like calling my reps being like, do they want it English? Do they not? And I got to set and I pull the director aside and I'm like, hey, listen, like, I really don't know what I'm about to do. Like, do you want to English or American? He goes, oh, just do it how you did in the audition. It was great.

And so I sort of thought, you know, I'm just going to stay with my regular accent. It's a little more natural to me. I feel like I can be a little funnier that way and just stuck with it. But then we dove in and, you know, the other thing was it was going to just be one episode.

Like initially they came to me and it was just that date at the movie theater. And then we come home and they're playing True American. The Big Cooler episode, which is like one of the most iconic episodes. You've been in all the iconic episodes. Well, that's also like I'm super grateful for that because like the fact that that Jess and Nick kiss happened just as this character turned up.

just increased the kind of like through logs on the fire of the new girl fandom. Everybody just went crazy. Yeah, that's true. I realized cause there's like a, you know, top 10 list of the episodes that people rewatch the most cooler, of course, as one of them. And you're in that. And then Elaine's big day is probably the other one. Cause of Taylor Swift. And you're central to that, which is probably why, because you think about it, like there's so many episodes of new girl, but everything,

but everybody knows you. I mean, do you get stopped in the street? Do people recognize Shivrang? It's so funny. They really do. I mean, it always kind of depends on like where we're at on the streaming cycle. Like I remember like the show aired and people recognize me all the time. And then...

It went away for a little while and then it was on Netflix and suddenly a ton of people were recognizing me all of a sudden. And then it kind of went away and then it was on Hulu. And now a bunch of people, I was just at a wedding this weekend and this guy, George, came up to me and was like, Shiv Rang and this and that and this is it. He just knew it so top to bottom. It was really adorable. His wife was like, honey, leave the guy alone. And he was like, no, no, no, I've got to tell him. It was really cute.

I love that. Yeah, that's so funny. I feel like you just fell into these episodes where everybody knows you and everybody loves you. You know, like it's that thing of when you're playing a love interest of like a main character on the show. Sometimes they're not the most loved characters, right? Because they're rooting for like the other two to kind of get together, like the Schmidt and Sisi thing. But people love Chevron. Yeah.

Well, you know, I think you and I had a really good vibe. I also think that the show did... You know, it's like we needed a bigger diversion from the will-they-won't-they of Schmidt and Cece, maybe. It was like that... Particularly because you guys were kind of hooking up already. So it was like, we know there's chemistry, but there's this bigger conversation that they're not kind of able to have. And I think that...

you know, because you had such well-documented excellent sexual chemistry, I think everybody sort of knew, oh, it's gonna happen sometime down the line. But there was this fun introduction of this new storyline. And also, I mean, the way that the writers dovetailed it through the season, it was also a really cool time where all the main characters kind of came together.

with the wedding and with some of these other things, as opposed to it being like just a CC storyline. Or, you know, it's like your storyline was like the central plot of the season finale, which is like kind of newish in that ecosystem to sort of focus so much on that. And I think it just kind of brought everyone in together and...

Also, you know, one thing I was thinking and then this guy at the wedding who I just met kind of brought this up right to me and I was like, "Wow, you really are a super fan." He was like, "One of the other things that I think is really exciting is that there's this kind of like unlocking of the Winston character that happened around this storyline." Like, I remember there's this line when he comes to your apartment to ask for a condom and you're like, "We don't know each other like this. Like, we're not even that good friends."

And then that changes so much. And then Winston's so central in the final episode. He's doing all of that hilarious stuff. And it kind of like Lamorne's sort of goofy, funny, playful wackiness, I feel like really grew towards the second half of that season. And so much of that was surrounding the storyline.

Yeah, it is interesting. Everyone thinks that season two, by far the best season. A lot of people feel that way. And I do feel like it's when we all kind of figured it out. Like our characters and how weird we could get. We really got into that really good groove. And yeah, they gave me so much more to do in that second season. And a lot of it had to do with you. And I remember when you were cast...

And I was really nervous. I was really nervous because it's a lot more, you know, heavy lifting. And, you know, you always have that like slight bit of imposter syndrome or whatever of like, oh gosh, can I really do this? And they were, I will say this for New Girl, they were so phenomenal. And the casting of couples and love interests where the chemistry was so real that

Like it was so real. We met each other and I feel like we just did instantly fall in love with each other as friends. We got each other. We were gentle with each other. We gave each other space to do the things, whatever we wanted to do on camera. And we remain friends till now. Yeah. It's wild. It was beautiful casting that way. And new girl did that time and time again. And that's rare because if not, you watch it and you feel it. You feel it if it's not there.

- Completely. And I also think that there's something about, you know, as performers,

we know we need each other. You know, we know we need to be able to lean on each other. We know that we're going to do bad takes and they're going to be whispering behind the monitor and the person who I'm going to be right next to in the bed with going, oh, I could do that better as you. And I think that you were so welcoming and supportive. It was such a tight ecosystem and you all knew each other so well. Even though it was relatively early in the show, it's still a lot of hours together on set. And I really felt like you made particularly just like sensual

such a concerted effort because coming in as a guest star is a very strange thing to do. And it's not always assumed that anybody

kind of gives a crap about you, you know? Particularly the series regulars. They're there doing their thing, and you're sort of added into the mix. Sometimes it's almost a burden. And so I felt like you were so warm and so welcoming that I just really felt comfortable, and thus we could really support each other. Oh, I'm glad that's how you felt. I'm glad that's how you felt. Yeah, I love you. I love you. I mean, my goodness, now I'm a little mad at Taylor Swift. I'm like, this could have been a real thing. Hey, you know...

Another world, another life. I did not know that you auditioned for this role. And I feel like, which is so funny, these conversations are so cool because I always thought you were friends with Liz. You're so talented that I thought that they had just offered you this role and that you were on the show. I didn't know that you auditioned. I fully auditioned.

I remember I had a film coming out and I was like doing a shoot for some article when I got the call and it was very much just one episode and then didn't hear anything. And then they'd call and they'd be like, they're pinning you for one more. And I'd be like, okay. And then I do one more. And then they were pinning you for one more. And it was really only a couple episodes in where they were like, okay, they want you for a chunk of them. But I really had no idea that it was going to go beyond that. Um,

And so it was a real gift and also really lovely to reconnect with Liz after some years of not seeing her. - I also remember, the other thing I remember is that I remember that someone said something about your dad. That was the other thing I remembered. He was like, he's an icon and that people had t-shirts that said, "Homey is my homey." - That is true. - Is that right? - My dad's an academic.

And his name is Homie Baba. And he's an academic and kind of big. He's a big guy in a very specific world. And so, yeah, the people who had studied my dad in college or in grad school are like obsessed with him and totally made like Homie is my homie t-shirt. It must be somewhere. It's a true memory. That's really, I was like, is this real? Yeah.

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Okay, we are going to dive into some of these fan questions. We've got two that we've pulled for you. All right, here we go. Letter for Satya. Hello. If you ever have Satya on the show, can you please ask him what it was like to run away with Taylor Swift? I mean, Elaine. Yeah.

In a series full of love, I still think this is one of the most romantic things I have ever seen. Plus, it freed Cece up to return to Schmidt. So honestly, it may be the most romantic gesture in New Girl history. Anyway, Satya, you're the best. I would love to hear what it meant for you to be part of one of New Girl's most memorable moments. Tell me about T-Swift. Best, Joe.

Yo, Joe, thank you for your letter. Wow. Yes. Running off with Taylor Swift was, as we can all imagine, a dream. Taylor was so fun and like light and easy. You know, shooting television is quite slow.

These long hours, these setups were big. There was a couple of hundred extras. And while she was not the like global phenomenon, like queen of the universe that she is now, she was still really well known and really famous at the time. And, you know, she's sitting in the middle of the audience with a bunch of strangers around her. And she was such a friendly and kind and easy presence.

And, you know, I also think that there's something funny about, like, how do you end a love story, right? Like, we had this love story. There was definitely hints that it wasn't perfect, that Cece and Shivrang weren't totally locked in, but there was also some really nice times. And I think that the writers were really smart in knowing, like,

The person has to be someone that everyone who's watching the show is like, just fascinated by, attracted to, interested in, thinks is so super cool. And I remember, I don't know if you remember this, but there were all of these names flying out about who it was going to be. They were talking about Cameron Diaz. They were talking about Lena Dunham. There was all of these different ideas. And then finally, I don't know how the stars aligned and it landed on Taylor Swift, but

It was really fun. And I think that there was something also about like both the reveal that both Shivrung and CC were sort of being pushed into this. You must marry someone from within the community. Hmm.

From their family, right? Because Shivrang says, I don't even care what my parents say. I want to run away and elope with you, you know? And I think that there's something in that that kind of echoes what we know is going on in Sisi, which is why, because Shivrang, God bless him, we love Shivrang, but, you know, he's not one of the main characters you're tracking from season one, episode one, but Sisi is.

And so to hear what might have been something CeCe was feeling, but coming out of Chevron's mouth, I think really landed with the audience, which is why it felt romantic. Because in that moment, you're like, great, I like that guy. I don't want him to be like alone and destroyed. He gets Taylor Swift cool, but now CeCe can get Schmidt. And that's what we really care about.

Yeah. Do you remember meeting Taylor? Do you remember any chats you had with her before, being picked up and all that kind of stuff? All of that stuff. I remember that Taylor's trailer was in a separate bit. All of our trailers were somewhere, and then Taylor's trailer was behind the stage, as close to the stage as humanly possible. And I remember she was sitting in her chair between takes on her phone, and I was really like...

So nervous. But then I was like, you know, I've got to go up and say something. The first time we're going to talk to each other is not going to be on camera. And but no, we talked about Nashville, where she obviously had a huge relationship with the city. We talked about touring. I played in a band not quite as famous as Taylor Swift. And she had been on the road, you know, already so much.

And so we talked about that life and how she was kind of bouncing from city to city. And what I was really charmed by was, you know, how present she was in the moment. She was there. She was chatting to everybody. She's incredibly friendly. She was like radiantly beautiful. And, um,

We really had a lot of fun. And I do, the moments I really remember is us running out and then we'd have to be super quiet because you guys were finishing the scene and just being in the back being like, I think that was good. And she was kind of nervous. She'd be like, I think that was okay. I was like, you were amazing. And then we were waiting and then cut and then we'd all go back in again. It was really fun.

Wait, can I? Wait, I can't remember. Do you carry her or she carries you? Well, no, Hannah, you do remember because the last time I saw you, I was like, I can't believe I carry Taylor Swift out. And you're like, honey, she carries you out. And guess what? You were right. So she sweeps me off my feet as she has done to the rest of the world ever since and carries me out. It's a great feeling, by the way, when someone like picks you up and carries you like a little baby. It is.

It is. It's always nice as like, you know, whatever I was at that point, early 30-year-old man to be swept off my feet by a girl 10 years younger than me and carried out like a little baby. It's mildly emasculating. But you know what? You do it for the art. You do it for the art. Oh, my gosh. So funny. Okay, let's go to our next question. Hey, Hannah.

Hannah and Lamorne. I don't know if you can answer this. Well, maybe Lamorne can since he just got nominated for an Emmy for best supporting actor. This is true. Very exciting news for our Lamorne. My question is, what does it take to be a good recurring guest star on a series?

I'm an aspiring actress and I always think it must be difficult to gel with a cast and crew that spent years together and you're kind of just dumped in the middle and you have to support these ongoing stories without overshadowing the main cast. What advice would you have for a young performer given a featured guest role? Thank you, Heather. Great question.

Yeah, it's a great question. You know, I remember kind of echoing what you were saying earlier. Jamie Lee Curtis plays Jess's mom on the show. And I remember her talking about the awkwardness of being a guest star. And I've never actually been a guest star on show. So I didn't know what it was like. And for me as being in the main cast...

I was just always like so, so, so excited. So excited when someone new showed up and someone wanted to be in the world. And it was like, you know, I don't know. It was like having something exciting coming to family dinner or something. Totally. There was never a thought of like overshadowing or something like that. Never even crossed my mind. Yeah. I mean, I think the overshadowing thing is kind of...

less of a concern. I do think that there is something about the rhythm of being on set, which like when you're a series regular, you are on set every single day, morning to night, and it becomes very natural. When you're a guest performer, this might be the only time you've been on set in many months, maybe a year. And that getting into that energy, getting into that rhythm

There's so much sitting and waiting, and then you've got to get up and do it really quickly. And kind of getting that muscle worked out quickly and figuring that out is hard. Now I am a director now. I don't really act so much anymore. And I've worked on a ton of TV shows. And I have seen people come on as guest stars. And I know this is a huge deal for them. And I've watched their audition and they were amazing.

and they don't get there. It's really hard for them. And I always think of it as really my responsibility and the responsibility of the rest of the cast to know that, hey, we are comfortable in this ecosystem. This is our family. I know the camera guy's name. I know the costume person's name. But they, it's all strangers to them. And so I think that firstly, it's a dream if you have someone like Hannah, honestly, because she was so warm and welcoming to me and that's not to be assumed.

But then also I think that, you know, sometimes as actors, our fear stops us from kind of shining our light that we know is in there because you get scared and you get nervous. And so you're not expanding into the biggest and best version of yourself. And I think that what I've always noticed is

on both sides of the camera is take the swing. Get out there and make the choice. Do the thing you think is funny. Make people laugh. I remember one time we were in a scene. I was in a scene with Nick, I guess, with Jake. And we were...

in a car and we were waiting to pick you up, I think. And I just started like, improving and singing songs, not really thinking that they would then have to clear the songs and buy the rights. So I like start singing, like, I'm like, what a funny English songs. I start singing Spice Girls and instantly the assistant director runs over and is like, you can't sing that, you can't sing that. So, okay, I didn't do it in the next take, but at least you take the swing and people get to know your personality. And I think particularly with the show, like New Girl,

where it was being written as we were shooting, the more you show yourself, the more they know what to write to and the more they know how to make you your best version of yourself. Yeah, all of that incredible advice. That's so true. It's just...

Go for it. I feel like this is the thing that I always wanted to be able to say to guest stars that would come on that weren't as seasoned, you know, as you and so many other people that we were so lucky to have on the show. Because I would watch them and they would do, let's say, two takes. Yeah. Right. And then the director would be like, all right, we got it. Moving on. And I would watch them in their eyes. I could see it just spin out. Totally.

right? Because in their mind, they didn't get there. They didn't get it. And they just think like they screwed it up, right? Or the director comes in with a note to kind of help them. And then all of a sudden they get in their head. And what I wanted to be able to say always is like, we're all on the same team. So here's the deal. We will never move on.

Unless we've got it. So if you just did that in two takes, even though you might not feel like you got there or you feel like you could do it better, trust that this show is never ever going to put something out there that isn't the funniest, the best, that puts you in the best light and the show in the best light. So if they've got it, trust them. They've got it. Right? Totally. Also, we have the best editors. Yeah.

In the world. They will protect you and protect the show. I don't think anybody has ever watched themselves who's ever been on New Girl and watched it and didn't like how they were portrayed on the show or like a choice that was made that made it into the show because the show was just, it had that magic thing where they knew how to pick that best take and to do it. But I would watch people get in their head a little bit because our show would move fast.

We would overshoot. We had a lot to shoot. And so I wanted to be like, you're so protected. And man, you just did it in one take. That's a good thing. You're okay. Or if the director's coming in to talk to you and you might have actually nailed it in the last take and now they're just looking for options in the edit. It's not a comment on your performance. And it's those things where you kind of wish that like you could leave like a little like leaflet in the trailer. Yeah.

To be like, this is how the show operates. We got you. We love options in an edit. You are protected. It's going to be great. Just go out there and just try to put all of that weight we put on ourselves. Just try to put it down. I know it's hard. I probably couldn't do it. But it was like what my heart would always be saying when I would watch people spin a little bit. I was like, we got you. And the interesting thing as an actor is like,

When you really commit, those nerves go away. You know, it's when you're holding back that you kind of are in your head when you're like, I'm just going to make a fucking choice and see what happens. And you go for it. Actually, it's really freeing and relaxing. And you come out of the take and you're like, whoa, I didn't even I wasn't even thinking in my head during that because you took a swing.

I bet you, I don't know this for a fact, but I bet you with that Taylor Swift moment where she, you know, picks you up and runs off with you, holding you in her arms was not in the script. And I bet you it was not the first or second take. I bet you it was an option. And the fact that you were up for it, she was up for it because it's super silly. I think it was literally something that we tried. I think we were back there and we were like,

do you want to pick me up? Should you pick me up? That would be so funny. I was wearing that big turban and those shoes. And I definitely know there were takes where shoes were flying and turbans were falling off. But like, we get it in the end. You know, all you need is one. All you need is one. This has been the best hanging out with you. Thank you so much for having me. This is so, so fun. Yeah. Well, that concludes our loft meeting, you guys. Thank you, Sathya, for joining us from London. Aren't you in London right now? I am in London right now.

Can't you hear it in my voice? I do. I do. I hear it. Well, that concludes our loft meeting. If you want to submit questions to any of our guests about a specific episode, or even if you want to just tell us a story, you can leave us a message or a voicemail at themessaroundpod at gmail.com or leave us a comment on our social at themessaroundpod on IG. Also, this cute little merch I'm wearing. Go to themessaroundpod.com.

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For decades, the mafia had New York City in a stranglehold, with law enforcement seemingly powerless to intervene. It uses terror to extort people. But the murder of Carmichael Ante marked the beginning of the end. It sent the message that we can prosecute these people. Listen to Law & Order Criminal Justice System on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Meet the real woman behind the tabloid headlines in a personal podcast that delves into the life of the notorious Tori Spelling as she takes us through the ups and downs of her sometimes glamorous, sometimes chaotic life in marriage. I just filed for divorce. Whoa. I said the words that I've said like in my head for like 16 years.

wild listen to misspelling on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts k hasn't heard from her sister in seven years i have a proposal for you come up here and document my project all you need to do is record everything like you always do what was that that was live audio of a woman's nightmare can k trust her sister or is history repeating itself there's nothing dangerous about what you're doing they're just dreams

Welcome to Cheaters and Backstabbers. I'm Shadi Diaz. And I'm Kate Robards. And we are New York City stand-up comedians and best friends. And we love a good cheating and backstabbing story. Welcome.

So this is a series where our guests reveal their most shocking cheating stories. Join us as we learn how to avoid getting our hearts broken or our backs slashed. Listen to Cheaters and Backstabbers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.