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Emmy, Emmy, Emmy. Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy. Long time coming Emmy. Nominated Lamorne Morris. Yes!
Woo-hoo! Come on! Oh, yeah. Come on! I mean, that's what I'm doing. I don't know what time it is. I want everybody to gather round now. Gather round. I like that. Yeah. Yes! What's that? That's a round. That's a round. That. Uh-huh. Yeah!
Messing around. Oh, not messing around. Messing around. Messing around. Yeah, I know. I know. It's weird. It feels weird. Does it feel weird? It feels very, very weird. I wasn't, I don't know if I was expecting it. I was, you know, I knew I was a part of a show that was going to get some Emmy love.
All the actors on the show are dope. You know what I mean? So I knew it was going to be a thing. And when it happened, and I tell you, I was in complete disbelief.
And I couldn't even speak when my manager and my publicist called. And I just started crying immediately. And I was like, I thought they were fucking with me. Can I tell you something? Can I make this about me for a moment? So in our little thread we have with our friends, the screen cap came up with you being nominated. And I literally was like,
because you guys fuck with me sometimes. So I was like, they're just like, are they? And I Googled Lamorne Morris Emmy and it was like nine minutes ago. And then I immediately started crying. And then I called you because I was like, oh my, I don't know why. It just, I feel like it's always been in your future to be recognized for the incredible work that you do.
And it's one of those moments like when, I don't know, like a little dream come true or you get seen by everybody. It's emotional. I cried, man. I'm so happy. It's so well deserved. Oh, yeah. I'm going to post a video of my reaction. Well, we were sitting down having breakfast. Me, Lily, Kyle was there. Kyle died.
had his phone out when I got the call because he was confused. He thought he didn't know who I was talking to on the phone. He didn't know if somebody had died, what was going on because I just started going, what, what? And I started crying and Lily was looking at me so confused. Why is daddy crying? Why are you crying, daddy? And I said, daddy's so happy.
And at one point I get up to go walk away, to go take the call in another room. And she goes, are you going to go cry in your bed? Oh, man. Yeah. So it's still...
Since it happened, I've been on the phone. I've been sending emails. I've been doing Zooms. I've been doing all these things. So I haven't really had a time or a moment to sit back and kind of just think about how hard it was to get to that place or even just to be grateful in the moment. Like to be grateful, just to sit back and just go, wow, that's so cool. Because we're busy. We're busy folks. So I'm doing this, doing that. I'm prepping for a new show. We're recording this podcast.
doing the Le Morning After podcast, and I'm a single dad, so...
Yeah, it's a tall plate. There's no time to process sometimes because you just feel like your mind is always going on the next thing and the thing that days later and a week later and whatever. But this is a huge moment to just celebrate. And I just had my teeth pulled. Yeah, we were supposed to tape last week. And then I got like, Lamorne's going into oral surgery? And I was like, what? And so it's still a little painful in the pain meds.
they kind of have you a little loopy at times. So I've just kind of been trying to sit back and enjoy it all. But yeah, but here we are. But this is also, if you saw my post on Instagram for all the folks out there, it's still a love letter to New Girl, just because I'm like, man, the New Girl fans have been riding with us since day one, and I will never let that go. No.
Never. Is it going to make the speech? It's going to make the speech? Oh, New Girl will definitely make the speech. You know what's funny about it? I just talked to someone who's a huge New Girl fan and they were like, oh, you must have been at all the award shows and you guys were nominated for everything. Like, right? Right. Obviously, right? And I said, well...
What happened when New Girl came out was that it happened to just be in the year that all of these huge streaming shows came out that didn't fit into a classic comedy or classic drama. And they didn't know what to do with them come awards season and for the nominations. And so a lot of shows that were pretty dramatic got lumped into the comedy world. So all of a sudden, New Girl was nominated, but uprooted.
against girls and Orange is the New Black. And those shows, you know, had big hard-hitting moments and powerful things that they were trying to convey. And so they would just clean house. And we never won. Did we even go to the Emmys? Um...
You went probably. No, I went to a party, but Zoe and Max both were nominated for an Emmy and didn't win because they're... Well, not because. And there was a episode mix-up, right? They submitted them for their Emmy nominations. You get to submit an episode. And they submitted Max's episode for Zoe, which wasn't like a big Zoe one. And Zoe's episode, where she does all these incredible things...
For Max, where he didn't have a huge storyline or something. And so there was that little thing that happened on their one year that got nominated. And the show got nominated for a Globe. We all went to the Globes. That was super fun. But Modern Family won that year. And then it was after that, it was all Orange is the New Black and Girls. And so there's this thing, I feel like, when I look at our cast, the talented cast we had, and Liz and Brett and Dave, and how this show has just stood the test of time and is so incredible as a group. And then you look like the episode we're going to recap today. Cool.
Cooler. Hello. And to think that it didn't get that kind of love for the people that poured their hearts into it. Sometimes I'm just like, well, we are robbed. So to see you get this Emmy nomination, you're right. It does kind of all the way go back to New Girl. We were just like, we're due.
Yes, I think so. You know what's interesting is that I went into this Emmy season thinking to myself, you know, I just want to be nominated. I really do. And I really just wanted our show to be nominated. But I had a feeling we would be. And so once that happened, I was like, that would be really cool if I got nominated. However, that's where it stops, right? No thought about ever winning one. But now that I'm going through this process, I'm like, okay.
How wild would that be if I did? That would be so strange. I don't know. That's something that you can't, like in your wildest dreams ever, fathom. So it'd be cool. It'd be really, really nice. But honestly, I'm happy to just be in that category with all these folks. So it's like, okay, that's dope. Man, I'm happy. You know, if your first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth,
All the other people that are on the list to be your date if something happens, just know.
I've like thought about like a dress or like whatever. If you just like needed someone to like come and like hold your coat or something or like bring snacks. If you just, if there was a need and if everybody says they're available and everything, if I show up like a few days before and just like cough on them just to kind of make something happen for me, I just want you to know it was all done with good intention. No. No.
First of all, also jokes. It'd be like my anxiety nightmare. I'd just be like... All right, man. Emi, Emi, Emi, Emi, Emi. Let's go to break. We'll come back. We will talk about the episode. Everybody's waiting to talk about all season two. You know, coolers.
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And we are back. It's here, the episode. Yes, the episode, Cooler. Cooler. Would you consider this the greatest kiss? And we'll dive right into the episode after this question that I have for Hannah, though. Was it the greatest kiss in television history, in sitcom history, I would say? Honestly? Honestly?
I genuinely feel like it is. In TV history, it matches the greatest movie kisses of all time. You watch it and you're just like,
Yeah. Okay. Like everything somehow like ticks every box of all the like romantic fantasies that girls have at least. They're just like, wow. There was just like it was authentic and it was powerful. He went back in for a little kiss at the end. It was just like, oof. Well, hold on. Just so we're on the same page. We're talking about the Lamorne and Brenda Simon kiss.
I was talking about the kiss that Schmidt gave Nick before he ran off with Brooklyn Decker. Is that what we're talking about? Yeah, I'm all turned around. Everybody was kissing in this episode. Hard to know which kiss people are talking about on this episode. All right, before we dive all the way in, give us that little recap. Okay, so here's the thing. Nick, Winston, and Schmidt, they decide they need a boys' night out so they can break their dry spell. Yes, this happens.
A man can only go so long. You feel me? So they decide to leave Jess at home because of her cooler ways. Quickly into the night, Jess calls everyone to let them know that she's hearing noises outside. She thinks it's secret. The boys return with Holly and Daisy, played by Brooklyn Decker and Brenda Song. And all of a sudden, a risque game of True American breaks out that ends with Nick and Jess having to dun-dun-dun.
okay let's let's start from the top here so when we open up we got nick dancing around in a woman's coat
that was accidentally sent to their apartment. - Yes. - He does this dance in it. I think he spins, twirls and does like a thing that I always forgot that that's where he, I believe that's where he did it first, but he's done that dance, I believe on numerous occasions. That's like a go-to Jake Johnson move. But for some reason in that coat, there was a certain flair he had about himself. - Yeah, he was feeling it. And I also feel like low key, Jake Johnson did not hate that coat.
No. I feel like he was like, you know what? Oh, yeah. Jake feels like I think he rocks stuff like that from time to time. For sure. I think he probably asked the genuine question like, is this a women's coat? Like, what makes this a women's coat? Like a real genuine question. I could see that being a question of his. I'm going to flag just so you know. So I watched this episode several times because I went through my emails and I found the table draft.
And then I found the production draft. So you do a table read. You kind of read the script in front of the studio, the network. Then they give notes. Then they incorporate those notes. And then that's the script we shoot with called the production draft. So I read the table draft after I watched the episode. And I was like, wait a minute. So much is different.
There was, this is huge. There was no kiss, no kiss at the table read. It didn't exist. The way the episode ends. I just want to say this out loud because I genuinely was shocked. The way the episode ends is that the woman that trench coat belongs to comes to the door, right? Says that's my coat that, which does still happen at the end of this episode. Uh,
And then they kind of make some googly eyes at each other. Yes. And then he goes off with her and Jess is like, bye. And that's the end of the episode.
And obviously some big chats happened. And Dave Finkel talked about this in an interview a decade ago, more than a decade ago, where he basically said, look, in today's like dating culture, people do like they're grownups. They hook up. They don't. They get together. They don't. And with this many charged moments that happened in the episode, this looks the challenge of the kiss, the tension, right?
We are now lying, you know, and not being honest with our audience if they don't kiss. Like, what are we doing now? And so then they added it in. It was not in the table read. That shook me. Because what's interesting is that when I was watching it, I said to myself, damn, Jess, like you really made it so the only person in the loft who didn't get none was Nick. You just...
You just and then brought another guy over and then you and Dr. Sam are doing y'all thing. I said that is cold blooded. But then now that you say that, the draft originally had it where everybody goes their separate ways and everybody, you know, ends their dry spell. That's right. And it also kind of explains to me a little bit about like the trench coat.
Like they had that planted in the beginning and it's full circle of where like, you know, Nick ends up. But anyway, I thought that was crazy. It's in the production draft. The kiss is there. I wonder if that was a reshoot. I, I, I, that's hard to go and say to, to, to go and look up if that was a reshoot day that he went back, watch the episode and realized, you know what? No, we have to, we have to go back and reshoot this moment where the kiss actually happens.
No, no, it was in the production draft. And then Rebecca Adelman will listen to it, who wrote this episode. Brilliant Rebecca Adelman. She sent us a voice memo all about the kiss. We have a voice memo from Rebecca Adelman? Yes. So when we get to the kiss part, I'll play what Rebecca, the writer, said about it and how they got to that world of the kiss. And then the response from the writers and producers that were in the room when it happened. We will get there.
So right after that, first of all, also Max Winkler, the fantastic director. Fantastic director, directed a bunch of new girls, crushed this episode. So Schmidt, now I don't think I've ever in my real life have ever had this happen or have
heard about this ever happening. So I'm curious as to which writer has experienced this. So Schmidt, he walks out of his room in a towel and he's letting everyone know that he's been trying to beat off. This man has been trying to masturbate unsuccessfully for the last hour. The technical on a hot summer day. By the way, that was in the table draft and the production draft and he did it as written because that joke is...
Great. Yeah. Real visual. It's such a Schmidt thing. However, I'm like, a lot of our characters' traits and characteristics come from the imagination of our writers due to personal experiences that they've had. That's right. And I couldn't get to the bottom of that one. Yeah.
of which writer has had this happen to them. But we will figure this out. I don't think anyone's like raising their hands to admit that. I thought it was also a funny line from Jess where she's like, hasn't the door been open? Yes.
We've all had that roommate where you're like, close the door. What are you doing? Just trying to make it happen for myself. Now, Schmidt, he wants to go out and his phrasing of it was off. You know, and he's asking the guys if they want to join him in having sex tonight. Yeah. He's trying to say is I'm going out to find someone to hook up with. Do you all want to join? And Winston joined the quest. Yeah.
The quest to achieve said interaction with a lovely young person. And so Winston decides, yes, because Winston is also on a dry spell. And, you know, Winston, like myself, when I am, when I have taken hiatuses, once you decide to jump back out there, it is difficult to talk to women. Is it? Yeah, because you don't.
I don't know what it is. You know what I mean? It's different times. I guess it's easier on dating apps to just make something happen. But in person, you know, they show a flashback when a girl asked Winston his name. He just goes, yeah. He just has like a moment. I'll be honest with you. I've done that.
My name. You're asking my name. My name. My name. Who, me? My birthday.
name i will say i have had people talk to me many years ago but they uh yeah it's funny when you realize they they're like they're not in their body they're trying to have a conversation but they're not in their body anymore and they're watching themselves going get together what are you yeah you gotta walk away and they just sometimes they just like they disappear into the night it's great to know that
women on the other end can acknowledge that when men are acting a certain way. You want to be like, hey bud, take five. Take five, I'll be right here. Come back. Come back to me. Come back to me. It's okay. We've all been there. It's okay. Have you ever been a part of the, so the next thing that happens is Jess wants to join in and this is when we realize what the word cooler is. Yeah, not like we usually think. Someone's like, cooler. Right. No, like a cooler offer. Right.
Yes, exactly. Like she can definitely, you know, lower the temperature in the room, you know, and has that ever happened to you where you, you know, because you got a group of guys that you kick it with your drinking buddies, etc. And they're like, they either go out and don't tell you.
And then you realize like, oh, they've been out having fun without me. I feel like you. I feel like some day when we started being friends, you're like, well, we're going out to meet girls. Like, don't come. Like, if you're going to be there, no girl's going to come up to us. Or come later. Show up later. Don't be there when we're trying to get girls. Because if you're sitting there, no girl's going to come over. That's true. That's 100% true. Because I'm also a real girl's girl. If a girl came over, I'd be like, hey, what's going on?
going on oh yeah where are you from would you like well should we go get a drink we're gonna go to the bathroom we'll be back in a second and you'd be like yeah can you just and then you go away yeah yeah for sure that's us yeah okay so that has happened to you yeah it it it i've done that i did that today actually i didn't do it today but i so you know our birthdays are close very close very close i'm having a birthday party at my house
Not on my actual birthday, but around that time. But my friends who are helping me organize it, I told one friend in particular, I said, hey, don't forget to invite all your girlfriends.
You know, I have a few girlfriends that I know that are friends, but I have a lot of single guy friends that are coming. And I'm like, oh, it'd be nice to have everybody mingle and get to know, you know, just bring your single girlfriends or the ones who aren't single, whatever. And then she was like, well, no, because you have a cap on how many people you want there. And I was like, well, yeah, I'm only inviting like 10, 15 people, but, you know, you can invite whoever, you know.
And my sister, well, again, my friend, Alicia, who I call my sister because when we go out, she is a cooler and vice versa. I say, this is my sister, everybody. She was like, no, no, no. We're only going to have two people. Invite two of your girlfriends. That's it. We don't need all them. All them randoms walking around. I said, no, no.
You see, this is why us guys, we go out and don't tell y'all sometimes. We're at the competition. She's out there looking. She's out there looking. I said, it's my birthday. I said, it's my birthday. This ain't about you. Can I get a day? Can I get a day where people are showing me some love and some attention? Yeah, at the Emmys. Next? Yes. Okay.
Well, she feels left out. Jess feels deflated and left out. And then the boys are in the bathroom dancing. So can I ask you something? I don't know if you remember this, but this is me trying to guess because I feel like I know you well enough and I know Max and Jake well enough. And I also had those two scripts I was reading. There's no dancing.
And I feel like Max and Jake started dancing and I feel like they had you guys do take after take after take after take after take. And there's a line and it's what they end on where Jake says to you, dance dummy to you. And then you start dancing and they go out on it. And I feel like Jake knew that.
They just want us to do something really dumb and weird to end this thing. And you didn't dance in the first dancing chunk. And then the second dancing chunk, he says, dance dummy. You then like dance and they're like, yeah. And then it goes out. And I was like, this feels like it was improvised. They like the weirdness. You didn't feel like dancing or feel comfortable dancing. And then he says in real life, dance dummy, which makes it as if it's in character. And then it stays. That's my theory.
I think your theory is accurate. Jake was probably fed up of us continuously doing it and was like, Lamorne, if you just effing dance. That's right.
And then we will be able to move on to the next scene. That's honestly, I felt it watching it. I was like, I know this vibe. And I can tell Jake's voice when he was like, dance, dummy. And I was like, oh, that's just Jake talking to Lamorne being like, can you dance so that we can move on to the next thing to shoot today? Oh, 100%. Because I know for a fact, I did not want to dance. I knew for a fact, like when they were all dancing, that is one thing that I definitely don't enjoy doing on camera is dancing.
I don't do it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. But a new girl, oh boy, do they like dancing. They do. They do. They love to make people dance. Yeah. In that moment, I remember, you're right. I think they improvised those moments and they just kept going with it.
And finally, we're like, let's just end this, LaMorne. Please, if you dance, that would be a good ending of the scene. Because Jake's also a really good scene editor in his brain, like in real time. He knows what joke to say that could cap the scene and end it. Yeah. He's really good at that. And so I believe you are correct in your assessment of that. Yeah, I thought so too. I watched it and I was like, oh, I know that moment. All right. Now they are over at the bar.
Oh, yes. Where we meet two very beautiful women, Brooklyn Decker and Brenda Song, Holly and Daisy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They see Brooklyn Decker at the bar and they all think they got a shot.
They all think they got shot. Yeah, that's true. That's the first wild assumption. You got a shot. Yeah, you just immediately think, you know, in real life, what guys do, at least the guys who are like good to each other, in real life, they see somebody like that, they're kind of talking out. Which one? Who want to use me?
Let's all just go and see who she gravitates towards. Let's just see. I'm like, you know, you can't call dibs like, oh, I saw her first. So I'm going to be the first person to shoot my shot. Yeah, exactly. So usually guys are pretty there. Schmidt in this one was real ruthless.
He was ruthless. Yeah. And full Schmidt mode, full douchebag, char Schmidt. You got it all. Oh yeah. And Winston, obviously he's tries to shoot a shot first and it doesn't work out, but, but he happens to stumble upon.
You know, at least for a couple episodes, the love of his life. The love of the season. The love of the season. Daisy, played by Brenda Song. That was also a switch they made at the table draft. She just says, I have a boyfriend. But I personally love the fact that they added this, like, I got a ring. Right? Because I think, again, a place of the intelligence of the characters is
I don't think that Winston would have been as comfortable as he was and out of his head as he was if it was just, I have a boyfriend. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I think that was a really smart choice that they made to be like, no, she's going to show some hardware. Now, why do women do this? Why do women wear, you know, wedding rings out when they're not married? I get the logic. Oh, so people don't talk to me. However, you have by yourself.
Mm hmm. You you really just if you just wanted to drink, you'd make one at home.
You go into a very lively public place. But they're not there alone usually. They're like there with friends or whatever, but you don't understand. Like there's a lot that happens when you have moments where you're by yourself, like you're going to walk to the bathroom and come back. And if there are people, men out there having those little chit chats in the corner, deciding who's going to go where. If a girl walks by flashing big old ring and she's walking over to the bathroom and she's cute, you go like, not that one.
And she gets a nice leisurely walk to the bathroom. Well, I know some men who that's their thing. That is also true.
What's up? Because listen, you got a lot to lose. So do I. So you ain't going to say nothing. Like I know some guys that are like that are ruthless. I know some women that are like that. Sure. I watched the Ashley Madison documentary. I know there's a whole world out there where I'm like, wow, people love to have complicated situations. Yeah.
I know. It's so strange. That's a real choice. I'm like, man, you need a hobby. Get some puzzles. Do something. I will say one of the biggest laugh out loud moments of this episode. It's a great episode, but like real laugh out loud. I also feel like because it was improvised. There's Max and Jake. They do this slap in the bar and then just drop out of the frame. They fall to the ground. Yes. Yeah. That's crazy.
because you know they really go for it. You know, you really hit the floor. You know that it's Max getting on top of him. You know, like Max is really doing it and Jake's like, God damn it, Max. Just pulling him down. I don't know why, just really, I forgot about it. Again, in no script, so fully improvised. Yeah.
Just a takedown, a slap and a takedown. Oh, 100%. 100%. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I don't think they pulled back on those hits. No, you've told so many stories about really getting a slap.
Even thinking about it now, and obviously because I have a tooth situation happening, it's like, I'm not joking. When you mentioned it, I started feeling, my face started aching because Jake, I don't know if he thinks he's Daniel Day-Lewis, he hits for real. And I'm like, bro, you don't have to. You can pull that hit. I think the fans will get it. It's TV. You don't have to hit me. He's like, no, I got to go for it. I got to give it my all. I got to give it my all. Now,
Now, Jess is back at the loft by herself. Yeah. Right? Which is so funny. She goes through this entire... She's having so much fun at the loft by herself. It's almost like she never gets this alone time. And she's, you know... How did you live with roommates, though? And then they all leave and you know they're not going to be back that night or whatever. And you're like, holy. Holy moly. What do I do? I've got this huge old house all by myself. I can get weird.
And it's also so much of that was improvised. I looked at that script too. And you know, that was just like a thick old pack of alts that came in to be the tops, no bottoms, bottoms, no tops, tops on the bottoms and the robot life and the silver and damn you Zimbabwe. That's in the script. So that was their big, I bet, alt pack of like doing all the weird things.
And she crushes it. It's so funny. It's so relatable. Because then that's the problem, too. If you're a girl at home alone, you're like, this is so fun. And it's so crazy. I can walk around in my underpants. I don't care. And then all of a sudden you're like, someone's going to murder me for sure. Someone's going to murder me. Where are all the people that live with me to protect me? Very logical train of thought. And this is where the whole cooler thing starts to happen. Yes.
Nick explains this to Jess earlier that she's a cooler and he explains his issue when he's trying to do a certain thing with someone and she gets in the way. And now, even though she's at home and he's out, it happens again because she thinks you hear something outside. And who is she call? The guys. Yeah. She gets on the phone. She calls Nick. She calls. Yeah. And guess what?
Schmidt decides he's going to interrupt this smooth interaction that Nick is randomly having with Holly. By the way, let's talk about that for a second. What's the...
Funniest thing to be attracted to, by the way. Oh, my gosh. She's attracted to broken, desperate life. Sadness. Sadness. Can't be depressing. Has to be just sad. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. I wonder if there are women like that. Oh, for sure there is. Where they at? Just at the end of this episode. Are they at a dashboard confessional concert right now? Just looking for...
Looking for the sad? I mean, that's your market right there. Just show up and just don't smile like that. Work on that. Yeah, I got to stop smiling. Yeah, figure it out. There you go. That's it. You got half the girls at the concert right there. Where my dashboard confessional fans at? Raise your hand. Let me know when the next show in LA is. Such a funny, funny, funny premise to sit there and be. Because you're trying to think, I guess, if you're building out this episode of
What's one woman that would be so perfect for Nick Miller? Like so perfect that none of the guys can compete because of what her specific little kink is. And I just cry laughing when they were like, sad boys. Yeah.
And they're just like, that's it. That's the thing. No one else can compete with it. Really made me laugh. And Brooklyn Decker crushes it. Oh, yeah. I really believe that this is like really doing it for her. She doesn't like him, but she wants him and she can't help it. It's such a funny kink. Made me laugh.
Oh, yeah. And what happens is, because Schmidt is obviously very slick, very smooth, he interrupts that by giving Nick the phone. And Nick, obviously a great human, decides, okay, my friend needs my help. And that leaves room for Schmidt to slide in there and...
You know, it's almost working at this point. It's almost working at this point. Well, he knows what the thing is. He can see it a mile away. Schmidt's not stupid. He's just like, all right. He's like, I'm so sad. I'm sad. I just want to be a sad boy too. But he's got to put it on where it's this really genuine moment. And I love how Jake delivers the line where she says something like, do you ever just like go home and just think like, I'm the worst city. I hate myself or whatever the line is. And he just goes.
yeah, I do like all the time. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, really? It was so perfect. And then you watch Schmidt like try to act sad, but Nick just being like, yeah, that's like my whole life, man. This is exactly what I do every day. And she's like sold. No, my favorite part of this episode is when Jess, you know, she's like, I've been worried about my blue curtains. And then she whispers, that had me dying. Yeah.
That had me dying. Her delivery, I mean, I don't know how many takes it took her to do that, but that was so perfectly delivered. She's scared to even say it. I know. She's just scared to even say it. Snoop Dogg would be happy. Snoop Dogg would be very proud. Very, very proud. Yes.
But Nick is smart. Nick, you know what he does? Instead of just leaving, he brings the whole party back to the loft. He does. He brings the whole party back, which also bold choice. But he's like, I'm not letting go. I'm not having this cooler situation happen. We're just going to continue it here and make sure that my friend's not getting murdered.
And she decides, you know what? I'm going to show him that I can help him get laid. Right. Because she realizes that she kind of is screwing it up. So she wants to make it right. Classic Jess move. And so what's her bright idea? Her bright idea is to have a risque game of True American. Yes. We will talk about it after the break. JFK. FDR.
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What are Clinton rules? Oh, thank goodness. Nah, that's not what I was about to say. Hannah, did you find the damn bear? Where's the bear? I'm going to say something that's really hard for me to say. Okay. And listen, you're going to have the Emmys to celebrate. Okay. So don't celebrate too hard right now. I might. This might be bigger than the Emmys. I am realizing season two.
But I think that they were really distracted by these big storylines. Oh, okay. And they may have forgot to do their bear placement, like in this episode. And so I just want to say, if this continues as we recap season two, I will put it to a poll. I don't want to be emotional, but I'll put it to a poll on the Master Round Pod IG page.
If we should continue this segment when we recap season three. You know that is hard for me. I know it's hard for you, Hannah. And I'm glad that you're mature enough to admit it when you're stupid. I don't mean...
I don't mean stupid. You know, it's very hard when you have faith and all of a sudden you start to realize that maybe Santa Claus is not real. Okay, I'm in a moment. And I'm still going to spend this season looking to see of like, oh, no, I just had a weakness. I had a weakness at a moment of doubt. And then I was rewarded by lots of bears. I'm just saying if by the end of season two...
There are less bears than there are more bears. Yes. That's all I want to say about it right now. Okay. It will be sad to see it go. Yeah, because I do enjoy making fun of you during this midway point. I know you do. Of the episode. But it's so hard to say goodbye to Where's the Bear? Yeah.
I would like to say for those of you that watch this on YouTube or watch these clips on our IG, right now the lighting on you, very film noir. It's very dramatic, very film. I feel like it's like Raymond Chandler, like you're looking through the slits of the Venetian blinds and like, she was there. That damsel in distress. Well, what the problem is, is that in this room, and I just moved into this place. And so in this room in particular, I don't have curtains up. I just have like,
a temporary blind that blocks one side but not this side so this time of day it looked very noir yeah very film noir I dig it though very spider noir very dramatic I can actually get up and change that I'm going for my next Emmy nomination and
I need to start sending the lighting, walking around with these crazy lighting kits. Well, that's my new show, Spider Noir with Luke Cage. That's true. Yeah. So I'm getting prepped for it. True American. True American. True American. I will say this. I remember when we read the table draft and I saw the True American scene and then I saw like my, you know, Cece there and I was like, oh my gosh, Cece finally gets to play True American. I was so excited because I never was part of those shoots before.
And I still wasn't. Cece does not get to play true American whatsoever. And I remember being really bummed. Do you ever play? You play at some point. Final season.
One. Cece did it one time. One time. I played True American one time. And I will say, it was awesome. It was the most awesome thing to shoot. But I remember this being like, oh my God, she gets to play True American. And no. I also remember about, because Cece's at the movies on a date with Chevrang. And they were just trying to figure out what does like,
Cece on a date with an Indian man. Like, how is she presenting herself? What does this look like? And it was a bit of a scramble. Things in New Girl sometimes are a bit of a scramble. And so they were trying to make me look, I guess, like just like really put together and like really sweet. And then I remember walking in the loft and
And I'm wearing like tights, a skirt, a white blouse. My hair is pulled half up with a bow. And we all went, oh, this is weird because I look like I'm in Jess Cosplay.
And it doesn't look like a Cece look whatsoever. And I don't think you ever see Cece ever dress like that again because it just made no sense in the New Girl universe. But it was so funny. I remember that. We put it together to look really sweet. And then nobody was really thinking because there were so many things happening in this episode. And I just looked like a little Indian Jess that walks in the room.
And it was very strange. I remember that moment. What was that movie that was being watched? I thought I remember just that there was a moment that happened where
on screen with the movie and then it turns that the movie's over and he's crying. He's crying and he says, it just makes me realize how much I want kids. I will say this in the table draft and production draft. He talks about orangutans. He was like, oh, the bond between the mother and the baby are orangutan. That's like the line, but that all got cut out and didn't make the thing.
But I don't remember seeing or hearing anything about the movie. Are we wrong? I just watched. You have a clear memory and I have no memory. Just watch this. And I'm like, I knew. Anyway, there was. Anyway, I was just curious. I was like, I wonder what movie they were watching. Well, in real life, we were watching nothing. We were sitting on the box lot in a screening room. Watching nothing. But yeah, I remember walking in and then having this moment and.
And it was interesting because it was like really the first time for Cece and Schmidt, even though it was done in the guise of me being like a wing woman, that Max and I like got to have this like very like, I don't know, with everyone around us, this really intimate emotional moment.
And I remember as an actor, like I hadn't had a lot of those opportunities. And I was like, wow, like it was really fun. Like to sit there and try to sell it like, oh, this is stupid. I'm doing it for you. But to really mean it.
As the character. And of course, Max is so brilliant because the way he reacts without saying one word, you know, it's what he's just wanted to hear. And like all the different character couples, I feel like have these big landing moments and Schmidt and Cece have it and Nick and Jess have it. And you have it with Brenda song. And it was just like, it's really nice that they still in this very, very big episode have,
found those moments for everybody to really just like have a little bit of a breakthrough. Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely. And this, this isn't with Satya with Satya. It was fun to watch his, uh, it was fun to watch his reaction and how he delivers his, what he thinks is rejection on the date prior to that. Do you, do you having that moment? Just even you explaining to him, like,
Dude, just relax. Just come if you want. Like, he's like, you're breaking up with me. Oh, yeah, this random text message you get from a friend. Because that with folks, sometimes that's a real signal. You know, text me.
You know, I'll text you and let you know the date's not going well. You text me saying that there's an emergency so I can hurry up and get up out of here. Yeah. And but this time this was real. And I and watching him spiral was really funny. Yeah, because he's like, OK, he goes there and he's like, OK, it's real. And now she's telling her ex-boyfriend she's mad and watching like the fact that they put Cece in the position where she had to look at Satya, you know, look at Shavrang and then look at Schmidt. And she chose Schmidt.
Right? Totally disrespect Satya.
So disrespectful. Which is the loving choice, even more so than the words that come out, right? She's just like, fine, I got you. And it's really, really sweet, which is a bit of a mirror to what's happening with Nick and Jess, too, right? When she makes the call, he has to look at Brooklyn Decker and be like, ah, and be like, and chooses Jess. He could have been like, I'm not coming, bye, figure it out, you're a grown-up. But he didn't, he shows up. So that's kind of a little...
CC Nick parallel moment of their hearts being healed. You got Crips at your house? You got Crips at your house? Call some Bloods. Don't call me. Call Nick Miller, Nick Miller. Okay, we have to get there because I know we're talking about the rest of the episode because the episode is great and it's wonderful and all these other things happen. But this episode is the, the, the. The kiss. And what I didn't realize is that I've read so much fan stuff online is that there was like a GIF of,
A GIF? A GIF. A GIF. A GIF. A GIF. Let's call it a GIF. A little video that went around on Tumblr and all the things that were going on in 2013. Yeah.
Of the kiss of him like reaching and snapping her back and that kiss. And a lot of people had not seen New Girl but saw that kiss and then found out what show it came from and then started watching the show. That was like their gateway drug to the show is just this literally like two second looped video of a kiss. And they were like, whatever that is, I need to see it. Like immediately. So they saw Winston and Daisy kiss. Yeah.
By that door. And they thought, whoa, this is a show I really got to tune into. Need to be there. Oh, my God. Yeah. We could have had them blazing babies. You're so powerful in the zeitgeist of smooches. I will say this, and then we can get back to the actual kiss. I was so nervous before I shot that scene. I was so nervous. I was too nervous. I just thought, because I just think Brenda Song is dope. I was like, oh, she's one of the...
Oh my God, this is so gosh, they got me kissing her on camera. I don't know. And she was so down to earth, so chilled out, so cool, made it so simple for me. So I appreciate that from her. She was very professional about it. I just was like,
I don't know what to do here. She had to do like no acting for this episode is what you're saying. Pretty much. If you watched, yes, the bumbling idiot, that was me off camera trying to be cool. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know that feeling deeply where you're just like, now I got to act like the thing, but I'm really feeling the thing and I don't want them to know that I feel
So I'm like, my acting is now like weirdly informed. Exactly. I know that feeling. If intimacy coaches were around then, like they would have looked at me and been like, okay, hold on. Let's talk for a second. Let's talk. You good, bro? You okay, dog? Not okay. Not okay at all. Feeling stressed. Okay. Can we also just talk about the one thing that was said? Because this is the part that was so good.
Is that when they all have to do is like the kiss so that they can get out from behind the iron curtain. Just kiss, just kiss, just kiss. And then they're like, there's like that funny dance of like awkwardness and like you like tongues or no and countdown. Don't come down. Look me in the eye. Why are you looking at me like that? And all this like weird stuff. And then finally it's about to happen. And then he goes, not like this. Yeah. Not. Yeah. Not like this. I had to pause. And I was like.
I mean, this is some like notebook level writing moments. I mean, this is like a, you know, a comedy, like a little 22 minute, like network comedy. Not like this. How? And then you're sitting there. This is your first time seeing the show. You're just sitting there being like, they try to will they won't this for a whole other episode. I will pass away. Like, what do you mean not like this? Like how? And then at the end when he says, I meant something like this.
Pretty good. So good. Pretty good. So good. I want to put this to the fans. I want to pull this one. Okay. Not like this. That happened in New Girl, in this moment that we're talking about, but it also happened in the greatest film of all time, The Matrix. When Switch is about to get killed, she goes, she looks up and she realizes this might be her time and she goes, not like this.
I'm a Matrix fan. If there are Matrix fans out there, please let me know which one was more impactful. And if you've never watched The Matrix, we're so sorry that the morning is spoiled on the best movies of all time for you. If you haven't watched The Matrix, that's on you. I got nothing for you. Spoiler alert. Neil's the one. After the fact. So spoiler alert. Oh my gosh. Not like this. It's so powerful. I mean,
I don't know. I just, and they did such a good dance up until that point. Like when she like gets down on her knees.
And then pops up and he's like, what are you doing? Sit on the ground and have a kiss. And it just like so many funny moments. And then instead it's just like organic and messy and weird and strange and undeniable. Also the gall, the audacity. Sam is behind a thin piece of plywood. And that was not a quick move.
That was like a chaos. That's crazy. That's crazy. To do that in that moment made me so annoyed with this couple. It pissed me off so much because I'm like, man, that dude is right there, y'all. Come on, man.
Come on, man. And come on, man. What happened to bro code, Nick? Well, that's why he gets in the next episode. He gets punched because it was outside of the game. Because you did see also kind of weird, you know, Dr. Sam outside chanting kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. Yes, that was weird. Also, it was mature of him. But because he knows it's part of the game. Sure. You know, he knows it's Nick. Who cares? You know what I mean?
But still, once it became like a real thing. Outside of the game. That's like Love Island, right? They always have those rules on Love Island, which is like if you kiss someone in a game. Don't say Love Island, right? Like I'm supposed to know. Like I don't watch this BS. Okay, Switch. Switch.
Look, we all have our things that we like to watch independently. I'm just saying. The Matrix. Love Island. Yeah. The Matrix is up here. Love Island is somewhere in the bowels of the basement. You cannot gradiate art. That's art to you? Yeah, it is. Love Island is art to you. I like to look at it and it makes me feel something. Art.
No disrespect to all the folks out there on Love, Violet. That was mad disrespect. They're artistes. Anyway, but that is the show that really talks about like something, a kiss happens or other things happen. In the game, you are not allowed to get mad about it. And so I feel like Dr. Sam has somehow some weird respect for that. What I think is just straight up cheating.
It's in the game. It's fine. But the way that he, like, he's, they literally just like, good night. And like, we're hugging each other. And he's like, you're lost. You didn't kiss her behind the door. She's amazing. And then like, takes her to bed. And then they pop out.
She watches a woman take her coat back, which is not really the most sexy setup for a woman to see a man surrender his coat to a woman that he's enjoyed wearing. And then that kiss.
Yeah. Chef's kiss. Perfect. Chef's kiss. It was great television. Perfect. Great television. I remember re-watching it saying, this is crazy. This is an episode that's crazy. It's wild. It's filled with so many introductions to new characters, moments, relationships. This episode was, this was in the top five.
Top five of New Girl episodes, I gotta say. For sure. And I truly believe it went into the zeitgeist, that kiss. It set the standard and it really just cemented, I think, how good this show is. And just like...
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Not like this. From the Matrix. Oh my gosh. New Girl is great, but we've done Matrix. Have you ever told me that when we broke down Cooler that our reference points would be the Matrix and Love Island? Oh, I'm so sorry. Okay, so here we go. Rebecca Adelman. I said to her, I said, I read the table draft in the production draft and saw that in the table draft there was no kiss. No.
Nick leaves with the real trench coat owner, lady neighbor. So wondering why was the kiss added so late in the game?
And she said, oh, my gosh, really? You know, this is over a decade ago, right? She said, what I remember is that we had the idea for the kiss or something close to a kiss pretty early on in the story breaking stage. I don't remember how or why I didn't make it to the table draft, but thank God it made it to the episode. And then she left me this. Hi, Hannah and Lamorne. Hi. Okay, I'm sending you this voice memo with my very limited recollections of making the episode possible.
Episode 215. I know that we wanted there to be a kiss. I remember that being very much part of the conversation as we were, you know, late at night in the writer's room breaking the story. But there was a lot of trepidation, fear, perhaps, of could we do this? Yeah.
Was this too soon to have Nick and Jess, you know, kiss like this? Were we blowing our load, jumping the shark, whatever you want to call it? I don't know why it got taken out of the table redraft. Those mysteries will remain buried in time. But I do remember being on set late-ish one night and we were about to shoot that scene. It could have been one of the last scenes we filmed of the whole show, actually. Yeah.
And Jake is in a trench coat. And Nick and Jess are going to their different bedrooms in that hallway scene. And I remember Liz Merriweather and like the brain trust, you know, I think Brett and Dave were there and we were talking about like, how can we make this scene work? Why?
Why would they actually kiss? What's the motivation? And I do remember saying to Liz, what if, you know, she basically challenges him, you know, basically says to him, you would never dare. You couldn't do it. I forget the actual line from the show. I'm so sorry. I have not watched it recently. And Liz's eyes kind of lit up.
And set a challenge. Yes. And she kind of took that idea. And I don't know how we tweaked the script. I'm not exactly sure. Again, this is all just operating on like a decade of memories. But we tweaked that scene a little bit based on that idea. And, you know, Zoe just kind of gave...
gave him a bit of a challenge and then he just grabbed her and kissed her. And I remember being on set and literally screaming in Video Village because it was electric and very thrilling. And I think I was like a litmus test maybe for the new girl audience at large. And it
And the kiss worked on me and the hope was that it would work on everyone else. So that's just kiss related memories from Cooler. And I miss you and wish you well. Yeah, I do. I do miss her. I haven't seen her in a very long time. We got to get together. We got to get the families together. Yeah, got to get the families together.
Yeah, so interesting that that's how they kind of like worked it out and made it happen. And then those who are in the room, the room where it happened, like, yeah, gasped out loud because it was just like in person. So it's not just like the finesse of an edit. It was just like, just they nailed it.
I remember not being there and hearing all the buzz about the kiss when I got back to work the next day. Much like the time Taylor Swift was on the show, I remember not being there and then hearing all the buzz about it the very next day. That's why you do this podcast. You're like, could someone tell me about it finally? Could I just relive it for a minute? What happened? I want to know what happened.
Kiss and stuff? All right, cool. All right, when we're going to come back, we are going to do the mess around. And here...
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All right, we are back and it is time for... The Mess Around. The Mess Around. We're messing around. Okay, so what we got, Hannah? Okay, so I went down all the rabbit holes on Cooler. And the big question was how many takes do they need to do the kiss?
And there are all these chats that are going on where people go like, well, there's an old interview. No one can find it anymore. Where Jake Johnson says it took seven or eight takes. And the reason why is because what his hands were doing to Zoe. That they had to get a take that they could use for TV.
Okay. So just listen, we're going to watch the clip, but then I'm going to tell you the truth. Roll it.
Also, baby Jake from 10 years ago. How many takes did you do on this scene? Honestly, about eight. Eight? Yeah. What did you do wrong? It was what my hands were doing off camera. Are you married? I am married, yes. And your wife likes you doing those kissing scenes? You know, the truth of the matter is my wife is really happy I have a job. So here's the thing, okay? So funny. And you will know, you will back me up on this 100%. Here's the thing. The person, the interviewer asks...
Right? As a joke.
What were you doing wrong? Not understanding that, look, no matter what scene you're doing three, four, five takes, no matter what, this was a huge moment on the show. So they're going to try it, like do it more heated, do it, like pull it back, do it this way, do it from this angle. We need to get like the wide, we've got to get the closeups. We've got to do all this stuff. So there's a billion takes that happen, but she then throws out as a joke, what were you doing wrong? And he responds with a joke. With a joke. With a joke.
But of course, that video was just like in this news moment. And then just like the transcript kind of got pulled. And then it got kind of put out in the new girl like fandom world as if that was a fact.
Right? That they had to do it eight times because of his hands. So we're right here on the Mess Around to let you know that is not the case whatsoever. That is just how you shoot a show. You shoot a kiss. You get it done. And Jake Johnson was just making a joke on a morning show. Yes. That is the truth. Yeah, it's true. For me, when I'm doing lovemaking scenes, once I lay her body down,
We got one take and we got one take on that. Because the chemistry is there. And if you've ever seen me in a lovemaking scene, one of my many films and television series is... You're doing great. I'm always making love. I'm always making love. And in those movies, in those scenes, have you seen Monsters Ball? Mm-hmm. Will they really go for it? That's kind of how I am. Yeah. Me and my scene partner, we really go for it. And I think that's how all actors should be. Taffy poles on a hot day. Yeah.
It's actually rather hard to get, like, no pun intended, to get aroused in a scene while you're filming. It's so technical. It's so, like, mechanical that people think that it's, like, this real aggressive thing. It's not. It is. It's not. You have a thousand people around you. You're on a time crunch. You've got so many things that are happening. It was a huge moment in the show. We're all team show. What can make it the best show? What sells it the most? What's too much?
we always play different levels because in the edit they got to figure it out and that's just the reality of it and all comes from a place of us loving and wanting to do the best that we can do but yeah you're surrounded by a million people you might be shooting it at like six in the morning we haven't even woken up and had coffee yet right so it's a it's a anyway it's really funny because I saw that thread kind of go around and I was like what and then I found that clip and I was like oh
He was joking. He's just being funny. Yeah. Speaking of people standing around, though, and watching you do all of these scenes and those people that are standing around you for a million years who become your family, I just want to take a moment to talk. I'm going to try not to cry.
to talk about sweet Curtis Bradford. He was a gaffer on New Girl for the entire time and one of the most beloved, sweet, wonderful humans. And he passed away this week, and we just want to send his family so much love and support, and we all love Curtis so much. So much love. That man was great to me. Yeah. When I directed an episode, I remember...
Him and Russ, our DP, were so hands-on with me and so helpful and kind and generous. I mean, I'm talking we'd go out of their way to pull me aside and give me tips and notes and thoughts. Man, just when I heard he passed, it was so weird and so just... It was a punch to the gut for sure. And he will...
he will very much so be missed. That man was wonderful. So RIP Curtis. RIP Curtis. All right, you guys. Great episode. Great, great episode to relive for all of us. Reminded us of so many wonderful things. We will be back on Thursday with Oliva.
We'll be right back.
But yeah, it's been selling out in a week. So we got to repo, get some more stuff, get it going. But if you want to get there before anyone else, make sure you sign up at themesseronpod.com and follow us on IG, The Mess Around Pod, or The Real Hannah Simone, and Lamorne. Yes, indeed. Much love. Mwah.
That was The Mess Around. This has been an iHeartMedia production. Our executive producer is Joelle Monique. Our engineer and editor is Mia Taylor. Additional production from Daniel Goodman, Wendy Heisler, and Kyle Chevron. Our theme song was written and composed by Ronald Jukebox Jackson. So we're going to catch you next time. Bye.
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