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Today, we have a very special guest with us in the New Girl universe. You know her as Nick's motorcycle-riding, gunslinging girlfriend, Angie. She did three episodes with us in season two, and she's been in countless films and shows since. Please welcome our beloved Olivia Munn to the show. Hi, guys. Hello. This is so fun. What's up? Hi.
Hi, thanks for hanging out with us. Oh my gosh, thanks for having me.
Would you say that because a new girl, your life is forever better? You know what? I mean, yes, people still come up to me about the newsroom and new girl. Those are the two. And you always tell the demographic. It's funny because now there's a whole new life to new girl. And so a lot of like younger girls will be coming up talking about new girl, which is really sweet. They love it so much. You know, I'll tell you the big thing that was really impactful for me.
on new girl was I was filming Aaron's organs, the newsroom at the time on HBO, an hour long drama. And then I go do the new girl, which is comedy. And it took longer to tape one episode of new girl than it did to take an entire newsroom episode. I was like, I was blown away. And then I realized that, that the show really happened mostly in the edit.
Like that, your show succeeded because we have all these talented actors, but this, whatever they did in the editing room, it was, they really put the show together. I was really impressed by like this specific thing. When you're on set of New Girl, you have your script, your lines. And then when they get that down after one or two takes, they come in with pages of alternate lines.
And they're just like, okay, now say, say this line. And then now if you, if the line was, I don't know, good morning, they'd cut. And then they go, okay, now say good afternoon. Okay. Now say, how you doing now? Say what's up now. So they just give you every version. So that way they can give you every opportunity to succeed in the edit.
And I thought, well, that's why it takes so long. But also it was great because everybody, when they had like these, their improv lines or they had thought of anything, everything could then be used in the edit if it worked. And so I think that's, that's a big reason why it was so successful in my opinion. Yeah.
It's funny. I mean, we'll get to it as we go through this episode. Today, we are recapping episode 212, Cabin. But when I was rewatching it, that moment where they show David Walton and Zoe and their characters being really, really like drunk and screwed up on absinthe.
And she goes like word games, word games, word games. And they just cut to him laughing. I was like, I bet you that took half a day to shoot of them just having her say it different ways with it being weird in her mouth. Or like when Jake has the grape. Yeah. He's trying to eat that grape. And I'm like, that must have taken forever. Just get weirder, get weirder, go bigger, go smaller. Yeah.
And then that's what they would have all those choices. And then they kind of, you know, like there's an art to comedy and what you sit in and what you give space to and what is a quick, you know, cut into. And yeah, it took forever, especially in those early days of new girl when they were trying to really figure out like the rhythm, the tone of this whole thing. So, and this episode I think is perfect for that because you guys were just literally locked in this cabin. So,
So they had to have all those choices for the funny. Yeah.
That was a story of my life in the beginning. Yeah, that's true. In the beginning, most of my notes were weirder or girly. What the fuck does that mean, man? You know, that was most, those were my notes. You know what I mean? And so I would have to find different ways to get silly. And then you're right. You would get these alt packs with a million jokes. And, but I, but I will say, like you said,
that was our saving grace on the show because, you know, you had the best opportunities to be funny. Yeah. And obviously it resonated with fans because here we go. I know. We get cool people like you on the show. Oh. Yeah. I will also say too, as an actor, I realized because in the moment,
I remember when I was like new, like brand new on that show and you're doing it over and over again, they're asking different ways. Like I was always in my head being like, I guess I'm not getting it. I guess I'm not getting it right. Cause they just keep asking me for it differently. Yeah.
And what you realize then when you watch the show and now when we rewatch the show is that no, they're like it's it's such a level of protection and safety as an actor because they always made you look good. They always made sure they got the best of it and then matched it with the best of someone else to make it really like be the best it could be. And that was the reason for it. But, you know, you can get in your head a little bit.
Okay, so we should dive into this episode, but before, Lamorne, you want to give us a little quick recap and breakdown? Okay, so in this episode, Jess and Sam, played by David Walton, Dr. Sam himself, they have planned a perfect weekend getaway. Jess, however, is a bit hesitant about spending the weekend alone with Sam, so she invites Nick and Angie, played by the wonderful Olivia Munn. Now, meanwhile, back at the loft...
This is when the episode gets a little bit interesting. Schmidt is afraid that Winston, who lives with three white folks, he's afraid that he ain't, you know, his black experiences are...
But not enough. OK, he's not being his true self. So he decides to do a Winston game to turn on his black switch. I'm not sure if you can get away with this episode today. Shit, I'm not sure I would do this episode today. I might. It was still pretty funny. In the moment, in the moment back in the day, did you bump up against it? Yeah. Were you like, I don't know about this.
i bumped up against a lot of stuff on this show um and you know for the sake of comedy the older i got the more you know the more i fell in love with comedy and the more i fell in love with people making fun of people
the more I can appreciate it. However, in moments like this, this particular episode, when you don't got, I don't think we had black writers in the room at that point. So we may have had one. And so I was like, well, who the fuck is writing the storyline? You know, but it's also to play into the fact that Schmidt is an idiot at times and he means well, but he's one of those folks that goes about doing things
in the dumbest of ways. And to highlight that, I appreciated it more. If we weren't highlighting the fact that Schmidt was an idiot, if it were just, you know, or that Winston, it would be, it would be, because obviously Winston is doing this to fuck with him. But if he weren't, if I would have read that script at the table read and Winston was not fucking with him, if he genuinely wanted to go
In search for crack. I would have walked out of that room. I would have walked out of that room with a lot of money in my pocket. I would have sued. Yeah. I would have walked away. Well, I think what was interesting too is like what I appreciated about it. Cause I was, I watched it and I was just like, Oh God. When I was like, cause certain times you watch things back. You're like, I don't know about this anymore. Yeah.
But the fact that Winston's character is like a hard no in the beginning. Yeah, he fucks with him a little bit, but then he just stays a hard no, even at the end, right? When Schmidt's like, you know, chocolate vanilla swirl. He's like, no, and walks out. There's not a moment of like,
I get it. You know, I appreciate you. Like that really doesn't happen. It's just like, this is inappropriate. You're overcompensating for your white guilt. I have no space for it. Figure that out. Bye. And it stays in that lane. I think it was the only saving grace of the storyline for me. I remember when that came out, I got a lot of pushback from, from, from black folks about it. Sure. You know, you know,
there's a lot of names that you can get called when you're a part of an episode like this, especially for people who may have heard about it, didn't see it, didn't actually watch it, didn't see what the point of it was. Because Schmidt, as you know, Schmidt has a lot of Indian jokes. This character has a lot of Asian jokes. This man has a lot. He's just, he's just not, he ain't right up here all the time and he's not necessarily in tune. And I think, I think that's,
that i think that device on him works on that character works for sure it's almost almost archie bunk not archie bunker ish from all in the family but it's kind of one of those things where you're watching the show and you go i see what that character is and try not to take offense necessarily all right should we dive in y'all let's dive right into this episode i know we could sit here forever
Yes, we can. Before we get right into the meat of this episode, though, do you remember how you were asked or when you were asked to be part of this New Girl universe? The call that came in, how it was pitched to you? Because, yeah, you were on the newsroom, which was pretty hard hitting. Yeah, I was on the newsroom and I got a call that I got this offer to do three episodes on New Girl. And it was to play a stripper.
And I love the new girl. So I was really excited and really flattered by the offer. And I just said I needed to talk to Liz Merriweather before accepting because I just had one request. I said, I would love to play this role. I would love to be on the show. I just don't want...
to play a stripper with a heart of gold. I don't want her going through med school. I don't want her like being like, I'm stripping to pay for my kids and my family. And like, I just want to really, I want to be a lawyer. And this is the only way to do it. I said, I want her to be a stripper who,
wants to be a stripper because she makes a ton of money doing it and she's good at it and she has no problem doing it. I really just, I never really, I thought there's a lot of women who do it because they, they're like, this is a good moneymaker and why not? And so Liz was like, okay, yeah. She was like, yeah.
So that wasn't the character like beforehand, like, like that wasn't the backstory of this character. They kind of then wove that into the anginess of it all. You know, I don't know if it was the character. I think I came up really quick by saying like, before you even think to even add that in, like, this is,
this is a deal breaker for me. I don't, because I've already seen that a million times. I've already seen her, you know, the, you know, I just didn't, I could, I could imagine what it was like. There was like, oh, I'm the stripper. And then Jake's character meets me and then we fall for each other. And he's like, she's this great girl who's,
just wants to become a dentist and she says what she's doing to make it through. And I'd be like, I don't want to be a stripper. I don't, you know, this is a hard life and I really want to get out of it. And I just, I was like, I just felt like I've already seen that. And that's already been represented a million times. So let's show,
a stripper in a different way and to show a woman who dances in gentlemen's clubs in a different way. I just like the whole thing was going to be more interesting to me. And Liz was like, did not blink an eye. She's like a hundred percent. I feel like she's so good at writing those characters too, that are like smart and unapologetic. Unapologetic. Yeah. For whoever they are.
Right. And that's what feels refreshing and all the weird comedy. Tell me somebody in life who really is apologetic. Most people are just fully themselves in real life. And I think that when a lot of times women are, are written, they are, we are written to be apologetic. Now it doesn't mean that in real life, we're not always saying like, Oh, sorry for this. Sorry for that. But the truth is like, we, we,
But most people just fully live and who they are, like, even if they are an apologetic person, they are unapologetically apologetic. Do you mean like they are? They're just fully living their life and their truth. And I'm sure there are a lot of women who want to strip to get through college or pay for their bills or whatever and don't really want to do it.
But there are a lot of women who also want to do it because of all the reasons I said before. So she did a great job of writing that. Yeah, that's awesome. It's good money. If you feel good doing it. That's great. I was going to ask because I know it's called Cabin. We start this episode with them saying they want to go to this cabin. Were you on because I wasn't there, obviously. Was this a real cabin or were you guys on a stage? No, real cabin out there.
Really? I thought they built it on a stage. No, I remember being out in a real cabin because then we had to do this. We got to like shoot shotguns and stuff. So we were out. We're literally out there. Holy shit. Yeah. Get out. I don't know why I thought like, oh, yeah, like a location day for the exterior. But they built the cabin. This was at the Fox lot. Yeah, exactly. Girl, you were on stage 14 the whole time. OK, so we're going to go to a quick commercial break.
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And we are back, folks. We are back. We're here with Olivia Munn recapping the episode Cabin. So Hannah, go ahead. What were you going to ask?
Well, the way we see you, Olivia, first in this episode is you come roaring up on a motorcycle and then quickly jimmy your way into like a secret closet and get these guns out. So my first thought when I rewatched the episode was, have you ever ridden a motorcycle before? How comfortable with you are? Were you in that scene or did you just like, was there a stunt double and you just pulled the helmet off and the guns? Yeah.
Because I personally, anytime I've had to use a gun in a show or a movie, it's the worst day ever. And I dread it. And I can't wait for it to be over. Well, I have a motorcycle's license. And yes, so I got that years ago. However, for...
like insurance reasons they don't let you ride your own motorcycle um so it was a stunt double and i i take off the helmet at the end but i i felt comfortable because i i know how to ride a motorcycle and guns i grew up in a military family so we learned about gun safety early on we would go to the gun range early on it was just really important to not be afraid of guns so that if
you know, if we were around them, um, for whatever reason, we had a really healthy respect for them and understood how powerful they were. So there was a, you know, there was no, there wasn't a fear. There was a big respect so that, you know, there was no playing with guns in our family. There was no, it was like, this is what you do and this is how powerful it is. So, so I, that did not
freaked me out. When they were, when I, it's one of the funniest moments. I feel like when I watched the recap is Zoe needing the backstory before she can shoot something. And then you giving her the advice. And I feel like it's Nick that goes like, oh, it's a, this is the fantasy in a nightmare. The girl you trust the least with the guns. And yet. I think that was, that was an improv. Like that was. Was it really? Like not improv, but that was a, the all. Oh, an all line that it was.
You know, the famous alt lines. Yeah. I remember I kept one of the shell casings from that or two. Really? Yeah, they're little red shell casings. And I was recently doing a big clean out, you know, the COVID clean out when you have nothing else to do. And I found them like, and I believe I had Jake and Zoe sign them. So they're somewhere. Get out. In a Tupperware somewhere. Oh.
That's a good auction, charity auction item later. I'll find it and I'll give them to you guys. Let's bring this back. What do you mean shell casings? You are shooting real guns?
They're like blanks. They're blanks. And so there was, no, we're not shooting a real, but they're blanks. And so they have these like, and I think that they had shell casings scattered around for like props. Like props. Okay. I'm like, wait, what? The more I started to sweat for a second, they're like, what? Yeah. No.
No, because I use, for a lot of things, I have to use guns for. But now, you know, nowadays, they don't let you use real guns at all. Yeah. And if they do, they take out the firing pin. You can't even shoot a blank if you wanted to. What do you need to use guns for right now? Just different. Fargo, the last show I did with a gun. Right, right. That one, I was playing a police officer. And so I had shootouts on the show, but we were using these toy guns with like a light at the end.
And then they would swap them out sometimes for close ups with a real gun. But they would they would open it up and show you there's no firing pin. There's no bullet inside. It's been decommissioned, essentially. But back in the day, you would use real guns. They would have firing pins, obviously, so you can shoot blanks. But the problem with those is that sometimes a real bullet will find its way through.
into one of these guns. As we all know. As we all know. And also, blanks are scary because that's how Brandon Lee passed away. He had a blank that was like right next to his head. I think that's why, honestly, The Crow is one of my absolute favorite, favorite, favorite movies. And
And then I learned of that accident that happened on set. And I just think it just put like a fear and a chill into my body that I just like never shook. And I never really had to handle one in my personal life or family life or anything. And then I did a movie and they were like, okay, so to get ready for this, we're sending all of you guys to like the gun range today. And it's loud in there. You never had to use a gun even when you dated Kanye? No.
This is a rumor that Lamorne is really... See, don't say it. People think that there's truth that could happen. It's not true? You didn't date Kanye? There's, I mean, it's the craziest rumor. Lamorne starts, tries to start really fun rumors about my life because my life is so, so boring.
And I love that my life is boring. I love that there's nothing exciting that happens in it. It is a very conscious choice. And so Lamar likes to plant seeds of things that he thinks that will just like take off and make my life seem like it's more interesting. I like how he said the Kanye, like the way they do in the documentary.
And Kanye. You remember that? He was like the guy who did the voiceover for the... And Kanye. Oh, for his genius documentary. I once made a joke when I first started New Girl and I met with somebody and I was like, oh, so sorry, but I bumped into Lenny Kravitz and he like asked me on a date. And so we're going to do that later. Like in my mind, that was such an obvious, ridiculous joke. You know what I mean? Like I saw Santa Claus.
And he was interested. Like, that's what I thought. And then it kind of like got back to me through my like agent at the time to be like, whoa, so like you were going on a date with Lenny Kravitz? I was like, what? I was like, that to me is so preposterous and insane. That would have never been preposterous to me. Yeah.
This is what I later learned. That things that I think are crazy to me in my life, everybody's like, well, I can totally have it. I don't understand why this feels insane, Hannah. What's preposterous is that I start rumors that I am dating Zoe Kravitz.
And this is, you've been trying to make that happen just by like trying to manifest by saying insane things about you and Zoe Kravitz. No one will ever believe that though. Thank you. I feel like you know her. I feel like you should put a good word in. Thank you. Okay. Absence. I want to ask about the absent thing because it's one of the funniest things too in this episode. Have you ever tried it? Have you ever done it? You ever been around it?
I went to Sweden before and I got a bottle of Absinthe and I thought that it was, I'm one of five kids. We grew up in a military family. We weren't like goody two-shoes at all. In fact, my older siblings were, they're all smart, got straight A's, all great. But they were like,
They weren't bad kids, but like I didn't cause any trouble. And I was like, there was a lot of stuff I didn't know about. I didn't know a lot of sexual stuff. I didn't know a lot of drugs. I didn't know any, but I just, my brain didn't like go there. Where are you in the birth order of the five? I'm second to the last. I'm four.
Got it. And I just, I just wasn't into any of that stuff. And like, even socially, like I would joke or fight back with people the way that I would with like my siblings. So like when I first got on television, I was 26 when there was no Twitter, by the way, and there was like forums. And so I would talk back the way I do with my siblings.
And, and I had to learn very quickly, like, oh, like doesn't fly when you're like a public position at all. But, but that's just like, my brain was like, I kind of operated like as like the fourth child in like, even into an adult.
in a way that like, I didn't care to learn the things I didn't know. I didn't like, I was just kind of, you know, an absence. I know this seems like a circuitous way to get back to absence, but I, in my head, I'd probably seen some movie or something where it was like the devil's juice, you know, and you're going to go crazy. And so I remember being like, they sell absinthe here. And he was like, yeah. And I'm like, and I like,
thought it was so cool i'm gonna get two bottles i put in my suitcase i brought it back come to find out you can get in america like it wasn't sure but i remember drinking it being like okay here we go and it was the moon no i think so the new girl episode was nothing like my actual experience with absence have you guys had absence before
not in the way that it's supposed to be prepared. I'm similar to you. I didn't have my first drink until I was 22. So I didn't know, I didn't know anything really. And then I would see movies where people would drink absinthe and then hallucinate. And I said, Oh, I want to try that. And then I tried absinthe and I didn't hallucinate. And I was like, this don't even taste that great. What am I doing? And then someone was like, Oh, you got to,
You got to have like sugar and you got to heat it up and you got to do it. I was like, what the fuck? No, I just like you turn into a witch. You're like, I got some. Yeah. Get a cauldron. Yes. That's essentially what you're telling me.
And I was not, so I never, I've never, after that, I never tried it. But you're right. You see it everywhere and you just kind of go, well, that was a joke. That was a big myth. I remember being in, I was, same thing. Also didn't drink till like in my early 20s.
and was trying to always make good choices. And I met this guy and I think he realized this is not, you know, like we're getting along, but nothing is going to happen. We're not like leaving this bar together. And so he was like, I think he had watched these movies about absentee. Let's do a shot of absent. And I was like, all right.
And I think in his mind, this terrible dude, he was like, he thought it would be like a roofie, you know, like she'd be able to hallucinate. And now he could like change the nature of who I am. And then this night go in a different direction. And I like, you know, did the shot of absinthe and.
No, still a hard no for me, bud. But, you know, thanks for the shot. And bye-bye. He thought absence made the heart go fonder. And I remember like walking out of the bar and I was like, so I'm going to catch the bus home. And he was just sort of like, it's not working. Do you want to go back and do like another shot? And I was just like, I think I'm good.
I was like, he's like, I've got some sugar, some hot water. It was the funniest moment where I was just like, Oh, you should just try to like roofie me. And this is like not working. And I'm like, now I'm feeling sorry for you. I'm like, you're a back of belly. I'm going to try this. And I was just like, you're a terrible human being. Um,
So it was kind of funny to watch this guy try to be evil. Yeah. Let's jump back into this one. Now, Nick is Nick is forced to be here. Right. He's he's free. That's the thing. He comes as a free trip and she's manipulating him. Right. Yeah. But she's like but in the beginning, she's like asking him to be there. Yeah. Yeah.
And so but we do see him in his truest state. He's having a lot of fun with with Angie. But but deep down at his core, he is becoming someone who he doesn't really want to be, which I think is an interesting trait for someone like Nick, because he's very adamant about being himself on the show. Like we talked about being unapologetic. He's unapologetically a bum.
And is a lazy person. But with Angie, he feels like, oh, I have to pretend to be cool. I have to pretend to be down with this idea of having like a swingers party, for example, because that's ultimately what ends up happening. Angie assumes that this is a swingers situation.
Which, by the way, like kind of a fair assumption. If you're in an open relationship, you're invited to a cabin with a couple other people. You're doing a, you know, and then he's like, I'm going upstairs with this one now. Hannah, I love how you think that's a normal assumption. It's a fair assumption. But if you're in an open relationship and then the other, you're going... Okay, we're all going to fuck each other. You know, look...
Hannah, is that why you'd be going camping all the time? You must have been sheltered like Lamorne and I too. I'm like, isn't that what happens? I guess that's what would happen. I don't know. She's never gone camping. She's so afraid. That's right. That's true. Actually, I will not camp. I'm just like, it gets weird out there. You're alone in the woods. There's bears. I don't know. No, thank you. And swingers. Time to swap. I used to do it as a kid. It's not a cute thing to do.
do. No, it doesn't seem like that. You can't sell it to me. It's not interesting to me whatsoever. I'll go for like a walk in the woods, but I'm not going to sleep there. Well, thank you. Have you just walked in the woods? Come on.
Now, another thing going on in this episode, which I let's switch to the B story a little bit and then we'll come back to the cabin. Schmidt Schmidt is up to his old ways again. Schmidt is so he sees Winston having a conversation with some with some people who happen to be black folks.
And he's like, oh man, your face lit up. You seemed to be electric and you seemed to be your true self. Like Pixar Winston. Pixar, oh my God. So let's talk about that a little bit. I know we dove into it a little bit at the beginning of the show, but let's talk about this in particular. How fucked up was this moment? Here's my question for you, Lamorne, because knowing you well-
When after you guys come back from the bar and you're in Winston's room and Max has to walk over to you and put that Rasta hat on your head. Yeah, I could. I felt like that's when you were no longer in character. I felt like I could see in your face. You were like, we're at the line and now we're going over the line.
Yeah, there were they were habitual line steppers in on this show. And that was one of them. And I feel for and I feel for you. And here's why. Because we're going to go to a commercial break. And when we come back, we're going to see if you found the damn bear.
Olivia, there's something we do on this show where Hannah seems to have this, there's this theory floating around that in every episode there is a bear. Let's be clear so Olivia understands. This is not a me thing, okay? No, this is not a me thing, okay? So there is a huge fan theory that there is a bear reference picture mentioned in every single episode of New Girl, right? And from what I have seen, that is true. You've seen a bear in every episode?
Or it's said. Bear. There's some reference of bear. Lamorne, have you witnessed this as well? He's decided not to get himself involved. No, I mean, it's in a few episodes. Okay. And so I've taken it on as my mission with the fans that watch the show and they send me in proof that this happens. So, you know what? Go to your commercial break. Come back and I will tell you all about 212 Cabin and the bear situation. Okay, bye-bye. Yeah, I'm going to go to break, damn it.
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In the opening act of the episode, when Jess is selling it to Nick of why he should go to the cabin, she says you can sleep on a bear rug. Ba-bop.
Bow. Thank you so much. So yes, there's a definite bear spoken by Zooey Deschanel herself right at the top of the episode. Boy, bye. I know it hurts you when I find it. That's the best thing because he just then usually goes on a tirade about how ridiculous, like when I watch the episode, I'm always watching for the bear and he's just like, you have lost your mind. I think that he loves to hate it.
I know. That's what I'm saying. That's exactly true. So he gets so sad because then he's like, well, I'm nothing to talk about now that you found it. I do. You don't got to dig too deep. I do love to hate it. And here's why. Because let me tell you how it started. It started as there is a there is a bare image. It started as a bare image. Let me tell you how desperate she got.
Now it's a reference of a bear. She even got so desperate that Brett Bear, one of our creators of the show, she's in producers of the show and writers of the show. How did I name that man? That's the thing. It's not even spelled the way bear is. A man could walk out of a room, Nick could walk out of a room with his shirt off and she's going to go, oh, bear chested. Look at that. This is a stretch. Oh, you do that? Yeah.
Some, okay. Sometimes, sometimes look, there's 150 episodes. They make some mistakes. Okay. Like they can't hit it every single time, but I still say, if it's like an 80% thing, that's that there is some method to the madness of that in 150 episodes. The question is this though, are, do you think they are Easter eggs or do you think it's an accidental, like from God, he's like putting this in.
But how can it be accidental? I think that it's intentional because if a hundred of them have a weird bear reference every single time, it's so strange. It would have to be purposeful. But if it was, it wouldn't be bear as in a last name and it wouldn't be B-E-H-R and it wouldn't be bear chested. It would be B-E-A-R every single time if it was deliberate. But these are comedians. Sometimes it's bare feet. You know, sometimes they have to be creative. Listen, okay.
dividing into camps here okay this is like i'm team lamorne sorry hannah we've been trying to get checked out you need help i mean these are facts these are facts for different reasons thank you i just need something to look for he helps me keep my attention
Now let's dive back in a little bit. So what's happening back at the loft right now? At the loft right now, everyone's stressed out due to the fact that there was a misconception about this swinger thing, right? Yeah. And what's happening. So Nick, feeling a little bit uncomfortable, chugs. He chugs the abscess. The truth serum. The truth serum. He tells all the truths. And then he comes out there and he's like, listen.
I got a problem with this. I don't like this at all. I don't want to be, I like you. I don't want to be in this open situation. Have you ever been in a situation like this where you thought everything was all good in a relationship and finally the guy came out and said, you know what? I don't actually. I don't think it's cool that you wear glasses. Be blind.
I don't, I don't like the fact that you, I don't like, I don't like this. I think it's a thing of like, have you ever been on a situation where in two different pages, right? I think that's the thing. And you're trying to be cool with their page, but you're really not.
Yeah, I could tell you it happens in every relationship. That's why I'm single. By the way, Olivia, you know somebody for Lamorne? This is the low-key dating show for Lamorne. He needs someone. You know somebody? So nice, smart, handsome. It's kind of crazy. When was your last relationship and what are your issues? I mean, my issues are the issue. I'm busy. I'm busy. I have a child that comes numero uno in my life. So a lot of times I don't have the bandwidth to give out
so much attention. And I co-parent. So my daughter is with her mom one week. She's with me one week. So I need to make up for that time when I have her. And so a lot of times I'll be dating someone and they don't necessarily, they say they're okay with it, but their actions are telling me they are not okay with it. And so I moonwalk my black ass on up out of there. And you know,
what it is now what are you looking for i'm going through my role with x in my brain
What am I looking for? Busy. Someone who is busy. Someone who has got their own situation happening and we can compliment each other and go and have fun and then understand that we are both doing something else. And then come back. I'm looking for someone who's funny. You got to be funny. You don't have to be a comedian, but you got to be able to take a joke because I don't know how to stop telling them.
So yeah, that's pretty much it. She gotta be thick. No, I'm kidding. Gotta add that. Gotta add them cakes. She got like weird stuff. No, but yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm easy on, I'm easy.
I think it's the understanding that you have a daughter and that she comes first. Right. And someone who actually understands that and is cool with that. That's what we're looking for. Yeah. Keep your eyes open. Because eventually it turns into a group thing. Eventually it will turn into a group thing. So she will get that attention. But I need to be comfortable first. Yeah, before. In my situation. Right. Okay. Yeah.
This is what this podcast is low key to recap slash change. Lamorne's a dating status situation. Openly seeking. Okay. Okay. Let's jump back in. This is like when this is my, this is my third episode. And then I'm, I'm out after this. This was mine. Yeah. Because you leave him. Yeah. Because I think it was clear that he's in love with Zoe's character.
Yeah. Which is, which I found interesting when she got sick and she went upstairs. He's like, I got to go up there and handle this.
And I was like, do you, bro? No, you don't. Well, that's, I mean, that's what your character is. What Angie says. She's like, you're going up there with her. It's like, Oh, I see what that is. It was a, I mean, obviously for my character, bummer, but, but as a fan of the show, I was like, go upstairs. I've been a fan of the show from the beginning. I remember all of your advertisements at the very beginning. And it was like,
was like, Oh, what's, you know, this is, this is back when it was like, there's four, five networks, right. That people really watched. And so when a show came on, you're like, everyone knew about that show. It's a very exciting time. I know it had to be as an actor. I knew it had to be for you guys. Cause you're like, cause you get these and they're like lottery tickets. You're like, Oh my God. And then I remember the, so I watched it from the Genesis. So when I'm playing the character who's dating Nick, I'm,
I'm going like, Nick, she's right there. I was definitely like very, I was really happy to be part of, as a fan and also as an actor, I was happy to be part of an arc that was the window that led me
to another place in their relationship. It helped that, you know, the show progressed from that moment. You know, it had to make a left turn at some point. And that was that moment where you're like, oh, he's choosing, he's with somebody and he's choosing her over the present situation. And you're like, and he's clocking that, she's clocking it. And it was a nice, it felt good for me to send him off onto his next journey. Yeah.
I will say, too, when I rewatched it, you know, you get to see Angie be totally wild and herself. But that moment when they're having that heart to heart on the bed together, Nick and Angie, and you go like, wow, this is like a really emotionally honest conversation. This is really sweet. And then he starts screaming bird and hits the deck. And she would like zero judgment, just stands up and looks around and takes the picture of the bird off the wall.
It was one of like the most sweet, loving things, you know, like a best friend who has no judgment to be like, oh, you're still in it. I got you. Okay. Don't worry. The big bad bird's out of here. I thought that was like such a, it was one of those moments where I found like, I forgot, but this was like the last episode. And then you're just like, peace. Bye. I'm out of here.
That you go like, oh, they are a good match. Because he's a real weirdo. Yeah, yeah. And has that. And there was no judgment. Full safe space. Yeah. We'll get the big scary bird out. And I thought that was really sweet. And you're like, oh, but there could be something. Yeah. Just a little bit more and then gone. Well, you know, I think that. And what I love, that's the great thing about the show is like, I think the show always showed the complexities of life and how people,
you know, a lot of times you could truly be happy with a lot of different people and you could truly be miserable with a lot of different people. And you just have to, you know, the biggest thing in life that I have learned is you got to make a decision and you got to make a decision. And, and what you hope is that by the time you're in a place where you realize that you just make a decision and move forward, that you're really in a healthy place that you've learned a lot of your lessons so that you're able to pick the best decision for yourself. But
In that moment, it's like the sliding doors, left, right, you go. And I think that was the beautiful thing about the show is that there's always those layers to life and you're trying to juggle them all at the same time and all of the feelings. And there's like regret and love and passion and sadness. And it's all of it at once. Liz was a great, great job of creating that show.
That's funny. The best piece of advice like my dad ever gave. But I remember asking him and I was like, should I do this? Should I do that? I go to my dad for a lot of things. And he was like, the only wrong decision is no decision. Make a decision. That's the right decision. But then fully commit to it. Yeah.
And that has always stuck with me. When you're kind of sitting in that limbo, this is why it feels wrong. Yeah. It's because you need to sit there and you can't keep one foot in that other lane, which is what you're sharing too. Every time I would go to my dad, I would hear, do-do-do, the number you have reached. And then I'd be like, oh, shit. Oh, I'm sorry. Aw.
So on that note, feel sorry for me. On that note, I want to play a little game with you. Hannah, let's mess around a little bit. Can we do that with Olivia? Yeah. We're going to commercial break and then we come back. We're going to do that.
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Boom. We're back from commercial break. Olivia, a few questions for you. All right. If you were trapped in a cabin in the woods with three other people with no heat and electricity, which three people that you know would give you the best chance to survive?
You don't have to name names if you don't want to, but please share. I'm in a... Okay. Okay. I'm in a cabin. No chance of... No heat. Of heat. No electricity. Yeah. No electricity. Okay. It would be, first of all, my younger brother, Johnny, who just got his PhD in physics. This guy is brilliant. That's a good one. We're going to figure out a way to be warm. He's going to figure out...
Whatever it is, he's the guy. It'll be my boyfriend, John, who makes me laugh so much. And I think that I'll laugh so much that it'll keep me warm. I'll just be like constantly crunching over. So John and Johnny. John and Johnny. And I would say...
My mom, because my mom grew up in Vietnam and she really, I think that, you know, she grew up in a world where she's really resourceful. She can figure anything out, everything she can figure out. So those would be the three. Okay. Yeah. Me, my mom would be one of those people, my mom. And then I would just find two Navy SEALs that I know.
You're like, I would get an electrician. I get someone with a lot of firewood and a match. Yeah. And my mom just to hang out while we watch these people work and get this shit together. Let's see. I got another one here for you. I love it. You had a lot of scenes with Jake Johnson, who was known for being quite a serious and dramatic actor.
How were filming those scenes with him? And, you know, what did you do to stay in those scenes? Because he does a lot of bits. He improvises. I am convinced he cannot read. So, you know, what did you do to stay alive in those scenes? Jake and I got along so incredibly well. We just wanted to... I'm sure people say this all the time with him, but it was like instant friends. And it was just really easy to...
I mean, I'm very bad at breaking. If you make me laugh, I will laugh so hard. And then it's impossible to make me stop. You know, like when you start, you break laughing and then it makes the crew laugh and then try to go again. And then you break laughing and the crew's laughing because it's funny. And then eventually the crew gets mad at you because it's been going on for five days.
that's when I think it's the funniest. Cause I started thinking, Oh my God, they're so mad at me and I won't stop. And then I keep going to like five more takes.
So that was like my life with Jake was just me constantly being like, everyone's going to be so mad at me. This is so, so hard to stay focused. There's a reaction shot of you when he's sitting at the dinner table completely high, losing his mind. And he's like, if you're a top hat, you'd be a big top hat. But like the monopoly, he's going on and on and on. There's a teacher, he had a weird smile, so think about it. That thing, and they cut to you. And I think the way they used it in the edit is just like,
Angie loves it. Loves it. Like a loves a fucked up Nick. This is great. But I feel like I know you a little bit enough where I'd be like, I was like, I think Olivia is just like laughing and loving Jake going forward.
fully committed to being as drunk and weird as humanly possible. It just was like the sweetest look on your face of like, this man is just going. And I just get to sit here and watch, which was really funny. I remember that moment. And I remember just watching. I was like, I remember thinking like a lot of that stuff wasn't in alt packs. It wasn't an alt line. I was just like, somebody wound up this guy and we're like, go. And he just like, it's so funny. He's so funny. He really is.
He really thinks of, you know, in his delivery and his voice,
It's so funny because what he's saying is always very clever and heightened intelligence in the best comedic way. But the way it comes out is so gravelly and bumbly. It's like that beautiful mix of just like, it just catches you off guard because you're like, he's just the best. He is the best. I feel like they always release those top five list of actors who play drunk the best and Jake is always on them. He's always on them. And it's very true. It is hard to
It's hard to play. Yeah. He's always on them. He did. He did somehow that's his wheelhouse. Yeah. Good for him. Yeah. We got one more question for you. Your character, Angie was a motorcycle riding gun shooting. Badass. Are those characters more fun to play than others? Also, what type of prep? I know you have a military background, but what type of prep do you go into when playing? A lot of action stuff actually in your career. I, um,
You know, I did grow up in a military family and also being Asian, it was non-negotiable. We had to do martial arts growing up. So since like three years old, I was in martial arts. So I got a black belt in Taekwondo and like, that's what we had to do it. Like what? Yeah. So that was really fun to do. But, but there's something like, I'll tell you, the answer is to play a character. It's not as much fun as like, um,
It was a really fun time with New Girl, but I liked my character on the newsroom probably the best. To play wild, crazy, it's fun, but sometimes it can be kind of like
Like, and like, that's kind of what they always default to when you're, when you're working. Like, so when you, you don't really get as many levels. And so they're not going to, unless you're making a film where this person's like, you know, you get to see her whole like arc and stuff and, and, and her down moments and things like that. But, but it's usually the person who comes in and it's just like, you know, wild and like what you see with Angie, you know, we have moments, thankfully, you know, there was some beautiful, like quieter moments, but, uh,
But yeah, I prefer the other, whatever the other is. Yeah. Do you guys like playing that kind of like party people, wild extremes? I don't do it so much. Action stuff I love. I love playing. I love doing that because it's more, a lot of times you could have full days, even weeks of zero dialogue. You're just kind of dead.
doing a bunch of cool shit, which I, which I enjoy. It kind of gives me a break a little bit. I remember the last action thing I did Fargo, there's a big shootout scene. And a lot of that took us six days to shoot this one scene. And I,
For about two or three of those days, I didn't say anything. Just me and Juno Temple roaming around, doing this cool stuff. These gunshots are going off. And I thought, man, this is great. Then you have your moment, your few days of just a two-person scene. So it's a mixture of both, and they figure out a way to blend it together. And anything else that I've done action-related...
It's very similar to that. So I actually enjoy doing those a lot because you get to do both in those moments. So, yeah. But being silly is still my favorite thing to do. Yeah, I know. Me too. I have to choose it every time. I'll be like, just put me across the table from somebody else and let us talk and get weird. I just did a show with Gina Rodriguez.
Not dead yet. And Lauren Ash. And when they would put the three of us women in a room and just let us be really, really weird and improv and like, I don't know, sing weird stuff at each other and you're laughing all day. I will take that over having to run.
I don't like any of those days. They're like, so it's like a physical day. I'm like, oh, God. Let me just sit with funny women and laugh. Those are my dream days.
We truly do appreciate it. Hannah, anything you want to add? No, I just really appreciate you coming on. It's amazing. Like you were saying, people, they fall in love with the characters on this show and everybody that's in that New Girl universe, and you are definitely one of them. And so you being on here for us and for all the people that listen and love the show and are still newly discovering it, it's awesome. So thank you for making the time. We appreciate you. Guys, I was so excited to hear you guys were doing a podcast about the show. It's
iconic and I'm so happy that all the fans are getting to hear it from your perspective it's so cool awesome love you guys awesome I'm gonna find you a girl I love you much love much love I'm gonna find you a girl um
I just going to find you a bear. I'm straight with my boring little life. I'm going to find you a bear. I'm going to find you a girl. And we'll talk later. I appreciate it. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for listening. Remember to like, subscribe, and turn on post notifications for this podcast. Also, if you like my shirt here of the mess around, a classic, if you like Lamorne's hat there, we are going to launch this merch online.
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