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Thursday, October 24th, 2024. I'm Jessica Rosenthal. Time is money and cash is king. And both matter each more with every passing day on the campaign trail. Money matters, but message matters more and momentum matters even more than that. And down this home stretch, it just feels like Vice President Harris has hit a bit of a wall, whereas President Trump has the wind at his back a little bit.

I'm Dave Anthony. Michigan isn't just a toss-up state in the presidential race. There's also a Senate contest too close to call. We talked to the Republican candidate Mike Rogers. There's three big coalitions in Michigan that are rock-solid Democrat, or at least have been. Black males, auto workers, and Arab Muslims. All three of those are fraying. And I'm Brian Kilmeade. I've got the final word on the Fox News Rundown. ♪

Former President Trump is at the point of sometimes holding more than one event in a day. And this week, he's held two events with Christian voters in the swing states of North Carolina and Georgia. In a rural part of Georgia known as Zebulon, the event was called Believers and Ballots. Christians are not tremendous voters in terms of percentage. If they were, we'd never lose an election. We wouldn't have had these people in office. We would never lose an election.

He did an interview with Fox News radio host Brian Kilmeade where he said he had mixed feelings about all the early voting. - And I'm really mixed. You know, the main thing to me is you gotta vote. You gotta vote. Voting early, I guess, would be good, but people have different feelings about it. But the main thing is you gotta get out, you gotta vote, and I'll be voting early.

As of Wednesday afternoon, more than 24 million votes had been cast, according to the early vote tracker at the University of Florida. Vice President Harris has also been on the campaign trail, but Tuesday did a sit-down interview with NBC where she was pressed on some of her current stances and how they compared to past stances, like does she support transition care for transgender Americans? I believe that people, as the law states, even on this issue about federal law,

That is a decision that doctors will make in terms of what is medically necessary. I'm not going to put myself in the position of a doctor. Aside from her own rallies, the vice president's deployed the highest level surrogates the campaign has. I don't understand how we got so toxic and just so divided and so bitter. And I get why sometimes people just...

don't want to pay attention to it. But President Obama told the crowd in Madison, Wisconsin, elections matter and that voting matters. But what also matters is money. With third quarter fundraising totals in, the Trump campaign raised $63 million in September. The Harris campaign raised over $220 million. And between her campaign and associated party committees, Democrats have raised over a billion dollars.

Well, the last thing, Jess, you want to do is wake up the day after Election Day with either debts or cash on hand that you didn't spend. Colin Reed is a Republican campaign strategist and founder of South and Hill Strategies. The short answer is you want to get it out there

The ads, as anyone who's watched TV these days knows, are saturated. Anyone who's been near a TV set in a remotely close part of this country is just getting bombarded every which way. So at some point, it becomes a law of diminishing returns. And what you want to do is make sure that the people who are able to get to people where they live, where they work via phones, via doors, those are the ones where you want to start pouring this money down the homestretch.

Yeah. Does door knocking work? I mean, are people ever actually swayed by that or are we in a unique situation where it's former President Trump? So you're either set or you're you're not.

In a race that promises to be this close, everything matters. Door knocking is immensely important because so often people in races I've worked with, they just want to get asked for their vote. And it sounds so simple, but it's so impactful. They want to be asked by the candidate, ideally, but in a larger state where they can't meet a candidate, a representative on their behalf, will you vote for the person I'm supporting? Here's why. So yes, when the margins are this tight,

when the race is coming down to the wire the way it is, door knocking is immensely impactful, especially in these states where people either don't watch TV or they're tuning out the pollsters and they just want to get a little more information from a human face with a voice and have a conversation. Interesting. OK. Republicans have raised a lot less money, but polling doesn't necessarily reflect that. Right. I think even SNL mentioned it. Maya Rudolph playing Vice President Harris is asked,

If they raised that much money, you know, why isn't she further ahead? And she does the nervous laughter and is like, I don't know. Money matters, right? But I guess it depends on how much.

Money matters, but message matters more and momentum matters even more than that. And down this home stretch, it just feels like Vice President Harris has hit a bit of a wall, whereas President Trump has the wind at his back a little bit. And all the joy and vibes of the summertime have fallen away with the autumn leaves for Vice President Harris. And now it's former President Trump who seems to have that momentum back, who seems to have the wind at his back.

Granted, there's still time to go. And as we've seen throughout this course of this crazy election cycle, things can change so quickly overnight and there's still time for that to happen. But votes are being cast. I think it's more than 15 million people have already voted. So each day that gets closer to election day, the more and more votes are going in the bank. So yes, money matters. But don't forget that Hillary Clinton raised far more than Donald Trump in 2016. And we

How that worked out. Yeah. Well, the early vote is going gangbusters. I think it was over 19 million cast as of Wednesday midday. The former president has told people, you know what, for this election, go ahead, please vote early, even though he doesn't love it. Is there a sense that that sort of permission is contributing to these early vote totals?

Well, one thing we know is that his rhetoric toward early voting the last time around was unhelpful. So when something's working, you got to change course. And those who ignore the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them. So it's smart for Republicans to put more stock in early voting.

Of course, there seems Republicans like to show up on Election Day. It's a it's a it's a it's a rite of passage that we take very seriously. And there's a lot of us out there who think, no, no, this should really happen in one day. It shouldn't be over the course of weeks and months. But the reality is, whether we like it or not, early voting is here. And it is a positive for Republicans that the messaging has shifted so quickly over four years.

And no one may be stopping them, but a storm could stop them. I think that's why Republicans are in part open to that. Now, the former president made fun of Vice President Harris this week for not having a campaign event on one day.

but it was the day she was doing a sit-down interview with NBC. It's crazy to not be out there on the trail with such little time left. It's borderline political malpractice. You need to be out there in as many state meetings, as many people, especially when you've only been the candidate for such a short amount of time. And the fact that she needs to spend all this time to prepare for an interview, I got it. Preparing for interviews is critically important. But had you been doing more of them all along, they would be muscle memory at this point. And I think

idea of a major political candidate not having public events two weeks before an election, it's mind boggling. But it was just one day, right? Is one day, is that like a big deal?

If she loses this, events like this will go down as being akin to Secretary Clinton not visiting Wisconsin in 2016. So I don't mean to denigrate the idea of preparing for interviews. I got it. But you've got to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. But in Vice President Harris's defense, she's only been the nominee for a short amount of time. She hasn't been before. And this is part of the challenge that comes with not having been the candidate the whole duration. Right.

Speaking of the blue walls, you know, Harris is going to Texas on Friday to talk about abortion with Democratic Senate candidate Colin Allred. And she'll be joined by women who've been impacted by the state's abortion law. Is that a good use of her time? Or should she be in those blue wall states or just in a swing state?

We don't have national elections. So if you're in a state that you don't think you can win and put their votes toward the electoral college at this point, this late in the game, this close to the race, not a great use of time. By the same token, President Trump is going to places like California and New York. So both candidates are employing this strategy.

To me, you need to park your time in those states where you need those votes. These are states, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. These are states that went between 10 and 50,000 vote margin. You can meet that many people in a day if you pack your day in right. And you can literally change the entire trajectory of the election. So, look, there's just no chance that she's going to win the state of Texas or even remotely even close when she's got so many other more promising targets in front of her.

This week, former President Trump was in North Carolina and Georgia talking to voters of Christian voters, faith voters. I know he's lost a bit of support with some evangelicals, though they still go for him overwhelmingly. Is that a good use of his time? Well, those are the voters that he needs to get to turn out for him, and he needs them to turn out those two states. And look, former President Trump's got a record –

of great appeal to voters in that persuasion based on what he did in the Supreme Court and the picks he made up and down the judiciary. So yes. And you think of a state like Georgia that went by something like 11,000 votes last time. Again, these are incredibly tight margins. And by virtue of hearing from a candidate that particular day, you can get them off the fences, you can get them off the couch, you can get them out to vote for you just because they were able to hear, see a candidate that day. So look,

If you're not in one of those seven states, it's wasted time right now. And time is the one thing you cannot get back during a campaign. And it is the one thing that both campaigns are quickly running out of. Speaking of things we're quickly running out of,

undecided voters in swing states, however many there are left. I wonder how they might react to certain things that have happened, I guess, in the news cycle when it comes to former President Trump. It's this him calling certain Democrats the enemy from within or his former chief of staff, General John Kelly, coming out and saying that

At one point, Trump said he wished he had generals similar to the kind that Hitler had. The Trump campaign says Kelly's comments have been debunked long ago and he beclowned himself in the White House. I should add that. But to a truly undecided voter, does something like that matter?

Here's the issue for undecided voters is they're looking at two candidates, one they know very well and one they're still getting to know and don't really have an idea of why she's running her vision for the country, the rationale for her candidacy other than party leaders, Hollywood elites thought Joe Biden was too old and they needed him out of there.

And this is what the – this is the big obstacle of the Harris campaign. This is a riddle with no answer for them is they have yet to define her candidacy in terms that the American public can understand. And as we enter this home stretch, these messages come home crystal clear.

The one that the Harris campaign seems to have settled on is that we can't have Donald Trump being president anymore. And that's a risky bet because you haven't yet defined your own candidate. And voters tend to say, I got it. I know what you're saying about the other person, but I want to hear about you.

But the clock – I mean we may be out of time for that, and all they can do is play the best card they have, which is try and so to negatively define Donald Trump. The issue is a lot of these charges have been floating around him for the last four, eight years. And if you haven't heard some of this stuff before, you've been living under a rock. It's not as though any of this stuff is terribly new or revelatory information. Yeah.

And on the Harris side, you know, she was pressed again this week and last week with Brett Baier and this week in an interview about whether or not she was fully honest about what she saw in President Biden after that debate and maybe before and surrounding that time. Did she see anything in his mental state or his physical state? And Harris said, you know, that he was able to do the work.

Does this type of conversation matter to undecided voters, this continuing to press this particular question of what she knew about President Biden?

Well, look, on one hand, it's laudable that Vice President Harris seems so reticent to say critical things about President Biden, his mental acuity, his ability to execute the job he holds and will hold for another four months. But at the same token, when two-thirds to 80%, depending on the poll you're looking at, think we're headed in the wrong direction, when barely three out of 10 voters approve of the job that President Biden's doing, it creates a real obstacle.

And the issue I think she faces is she's very, very clear about saying how her presidency will not represent a continuation of the Biden presidency, yet she's been hardly able to offer any clear, concrete examples as to where she differs from the guy in charge.

And if these elections become more of the same versus a change in direction, change in direction wins in these turbulent times. And that's the danger she's in. And she probably doesn't feel that want to be kicking the guy when he's down, President Biden. But by the same token, if this becomes a referendum on President Biden, that is not a good spot if you're in the Harris campaign. Interesting. Colin Reed, Republican founder of South and Hill Strategies. Thanks so much. Thank you, Jess. Thank you.

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I'm John Roberts, and I remember election night back in 2000. I'd been covering the Gore campaign, traveling across the country. We ended up in Nashville that night. Gore was ensconced at the Lowe's Hotel in downtown Nashville. Myself and the other correspondents who were on that election campaign were outside in the pouring rain at the Nashville War Memorial Auditorium.

And it was getting awfully late. It was probably 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. And it looked like George Bush had won the election. And we'd been in touch with the Gore campaign, and they said, he's just getting into the motorcade. He's coming down there to concede the election. So we were standing there in the rain, broadcasting all morning long,

And it became clear after a few minutes of waiting that Al Gore was not going to make it down to the War Memorial Auditorium, nor was he going to give a concession speech. And that...

off what became an almost intolerable post-election period. I think it went 36 days in total before George Bush was eventually declared the winner by the Supreme Court. But I'll never forget standing out there with my cameraman and my producer soaking wet, umbrellas vainly trying to keep the rain off of our heads, and Al Gore not showing up. That's a moment that...

likely won't be repeated in election history. And hopefully I'll never have to stand out in the rain for hours like that again. This is Brian Kilmeade with your Fox News commentary coming up. Michigan is a key battleground in the race for the White House. I am so deeply honored as a lifelong supporter of union labor for Tim and I to have the endorsement of UAW.

But not all autoworkers were cheering when their union leadership endorsed Vice President Harris back in August. We can pretend all we want that the Democrats are for us, but they're not. Michigan autoworker James Benson Jr. told Fox & Friends yesterday morning. I was a lifelong Democrat.

voted for Obama both terms and you know what I saw was was more losses and more jobs going overseas during the Trump administration nothing but growth and record sales he'll be voting for the former president in the election and Mike Rogers hopes for him too he's the Republican running for Senate in Michigan against Democratic Congresswoman Alyssa Slotkin another race considered too close to call the could determine which party controls the Senate in the next Congress

and early voting has already set records in Michigan. That actually tempers in how we do our advertising, where we advertise, how we do ballot chases. All of those things got completely changed in this election. Now, when in Congress, Mike Rogers chaired the House Intelligence Committee. The reason we tell people to vote early is, listen, if you're a likely Republican and a likely voter, we're going to pester you to death to make sure you show up at the poll. And so the earlier you do that,

I will know that that person voted or not. We can take you off the list. And by the way, Republicans vote late. So when you see all these pundits around the country saying, oh, look at the big advantage of Democrats early. That doesn't worry us a bit because that is just very normal behavior. Democrats tend to vote early. Republicans come in a little bit later. And so we're just trying to make sure that we're tracking that voter by how they vote and then talk to them a lot.

So how do you feel the race is going? Your state, this contest has been pretty much seen as a toss-up by a lot of people lately. So good news for us, the Democrats are starting to run like Republicans. I've never seen anything quite like it. For all the things they've been voting on, there are ads now saying that Democrats are going to try to cut spending. There are Democrat ads saying we're not for EV mandates, even though my opponent voted for an EV mandate five weeks ago, now has a TV ad up saying, well, I'm not really for EV mandates.

And now they're talking about Trump. I worked with Trump when I was in the House. So before, if you remember, Trump was the most evil human being in the world. Couldn't you know, if you said anything at all, you had to have some spittle coming out of your mouth. Now they're putting them in their ads talking about how they're going to work with Donald Trump. That tells me, A, the Harris campaign is imploding and B, these folks cannot work.

run on their own records. And I just think people see through that. They know their grocery prices are high. They know their gas prices are high. They know that their kids are stuck in their basement for a while because they can't go out and buy a home. All of those things aren't going to change. And then you add something like EV mandates, which in a state like Michigan is almost a death sentence. And people are starting to wake up and go, man, we need a change in Washington. That's why our polling has tightened.

We are tied statistically. And I think, you know, we've got all the momentum going into November 5th is exactly where you want to be is right here where we are. How much of a factor is the toss up in the presidential race in Michigan and it being a key battleground state? How much of a factor is that in your race?

It's all going to be about turnout at that level. So the President Trump is working with his voters and low propensity voters to get them to show up. And the more successful he is, the better off. And then same with the Democrats. And so far, it seems to me that we're winning that fight. So

We put a ground game together about 12 weeks ago, unprecedented here in the state. Give you an idea. Just last week on a Saturday, 40,000 doors knocked by my campaign. And there's other groups out there. We've never hit that number before. And so that's the difference. The unions are now starting to do call banks calls.

which will be effective to some degree, but I don't think they can outdo this ground game. And so we're working with the Trump campaign in Michigan to try to get those numbers even higher. And so far, that's been very, very successful. Now, Mike Rogers just referenced Democrat ads on electric vehicle mandates. Well, here's one made by his rival in this race. I'm Melissa Slotkin. I live on a dirt road nowhere near a charging station, so I don't own an electric car.

No one should tell us what to buy and no one's going to mandate anything. But here's the thing. If there's going to be a new generation of vehicles, I want that new generation built right here in Michigan. And the UAW has endorsed Congresswoman Slotkin along with Vice President Harris. So Ford Motor Company says EV mandates will mean 40 percent less labor. 40 percent.

So we have 1.1 million people building internal combustion engine parts or pieces or subsets of that engine. They call it a mobility economy, meaning it could be a truck, it could be a car, could be something else that it has wheels and a motor. You take 40%, there's 400,000 manufacturing jobs. The average manufacturing job in Michigan pays about $72,000.

you take that out of the economy, that's more than devastating. The rest of the country would catch a cold, we'll get pneumonia. 5,000 auto dealers around the country wrote an open letter to the president saying, you are killing the automobile business in America. Please stop it with these EV mandates. So the mandates are, Congressman, the mandates, I believe by 2032, these automakers have to make like two thirds of their vehicles be emission free, correct? Correct.

That's correct, and 20% of commercial trucks. Okay. Some states are going to, by 2035, the plan is to ban all sales of cars...

and SUVs and trucks that use gas. Michigan does not have that, right? No, no, but they're trying to do it at the federal level. So Kamala Harris has said she was willing to ban gas engines. My opponent voted to allow the banning of gas engines. All right, so this thing is on the way. Some notion that because there's an election that's changed course, it will not.

We are or the disruption in the auto companies already have caused twenty four hundred layoffs at Stellantis, a thousand at General Motors. Ford Motor Company came out and took a charge off of five billion dollars of losses in their EV unit because the government's making them build a car that people do not want to buy. Well, the United Auto Workers, I mean, haven't they been frustrated?

supporting Vice President Harris? They were certainly for Joe Biden when he was still running. Yeah, they did. They endorsed Kamala Harris. We're finding so there's three big coalitions in Michigan that are rock solid Democrat or at least have been black males, auto workers and Arab Muslims. All three of those are fraying. You know, black males are starting to kind of come our way. They understand that their economic lives were better four years ago. Prospects were better.

Incomes were on the rise. Costs were down. Auto workers the same. They get what's happening. And so, you know, they're talking 50 percent or more are going to break for Republicans and vote Donald Trump. That's huge.

And Arab Muslims are very disappointed in the Democrats for trying to be on all sides of every issue, which means you stand for nothing. And they get it and they know it. And I've talked to them and that that whole coalition is fraying for them. Another issue in this race in Michigan, like everywhere else.

abortion rights. Mike Rogers was 20 years as a legislator. He voted for every single ban, every restriction, every bill that came across his desk to make it harder for a woman and to ban in some cases a woman and her rights

to choose. That was Congresswoman Slotkin during her debate with Rogers October 8th on Fox Detroit's sister station WXYZ. Every single time he was casting one of those votes, he was saying something very particular. He was saying to women, he does not trust you to make your own decisions about your

own family planning. Now, in the election two years ago, Michigan voters approved putting abortion rights into the state constitution. Well, I mean, first of all, this is the most heart-wrenching decision a woman would ever have to make. I always believed it should be done with where her doctor is, her family is, her faith is.

which is why I supported the states making this decision. In 2022, voters in Michigan went to the polls. They made it abortion legal in the state and they put it as a part of our state constitution. And I have said from the very beginning of this campaign that

I will not go to Washington to try to undo what the people of Michigan have made part of their Michigan constitution. So the only reason my opponent has made this a campaign issue, which is settled law here, abortion is legal in Michigan, is because they can't talk about gas prices and grocery prices. They can't talk about a wide open and dangerous border.

The Biden administration has been touting how the numbers are much less back to 2020 levels at the border. And then they blame also former President Trump and Republicans for quashing legislation in the Senate earlier this year that did have some Republican support that they say would have done a better job of stopping some of the surge of migrants coming here illegally. What's your battle back on that? So, first of all, that bill was opposed in a bipartisan manner.

It was not a very good bill. So there was more bipartisan opposition to it than there was bipartisan support for it. And the main reason is that it codified and legalized about two million illegal immigrants coming across the border every year.

which is just nonsense. And so what that does is it empowers the drug cartels to continue their human trafficking trade. It empowers them to continue bringing fentanyl in at the numbers that they do, continues the human trafficking piece. That's not the solution to the problem that we have in Michigan.

including criminal cartels that came across the border doing high-M home invasions here. We have huge drug problems. Fentanyl killed 3,000 people here in Michigan. There was a murder by an illegal immigrant in West Michigan, Ruby Garcia killed.

a 14-year-old sexually assaulted in my home county by an illegal immigrant, a rape of an 11-year-old girl by an illegal immigrant. I mean, we have huge, huge problems here. You know, six months of nasty and negative political ads can't make up for six years of bad policy by my opponent and four years of bad policy by the Biden-Harris administration. And so people get it. They see it. They can say it all they want. I don't think people are buying it.

Do you feel pressure? I mean, you're one of the seats Republicans are really hoping for to take control of the Senate and the next Congress. I mean, are you feeling that?

You know, honestly, what we're feeling is most of the on the ground stuff. We meet people, you know, the hardest day and the most pressure I feel. I tell you the story. There was a woman who who works part time. Her husband works full time. She works at a warehouse. He works at a small non-union manufacturing shop. They have four kids through tears. She explains how she has to go to the food pantry the last two and three days of the month.

I'm fighting for those people because they seem to have been forgotten by the Democrat Party. That's the pressure I feel. I really don't care about Washington, D.C. I'm not enamored with the place. It's better if you're in the majority because you can actually get more done. But, you know, my my charge here is to send Michigan values back to Washington, D.C., and take care of those people who are struggling, which is the whole reason I got into this race in the beginning.

Well, it's getting ever closer to November 5th, but people are voting every day ahead of that as we get closer to the election. Mike Rogers, former congressman running for the U.S. Senate seat in Michigan. Thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

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The only reason why the vice president's going for president is because she tossed him to the side. She masked his frailties and then kicked him to the curb and has not looked back since. And if you want to make a vote on character before you act like somebody so much better than the other one, keep in mind how she got the nomination to begin with. She skipped the line, avoided the primary, went right to the DNC and thought she'd glide to the presidency. And every time he points out that Joe

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