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Shannon Bream On Campaign Stunts, Closing Messages, & Voter Turnout

2024/11/1
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Key Insights

Why is voter turnout crucial in the 2024 election?

Turnout will be decisive as the race is extremely close, with everything within the margin of error.

Why did Virginia win a Supreme Court case regarding voter roll purges?

They argued the purges were not systematic but individualized, allowing them to remove self-identified non-citizens.

Why are early voting numbers hard to interpret in the 2024 election?

Republicans are voting early in greater numbers, making it difficult to predict trends.

Why did Vice President Kamala Harris give a speech on January 6th?

To remind voters of the event and frame Trump as a threat, aiming to sway undecided voters.

Why are some voters lying about their voting choices?

48% of young voters lie due to peer pressure or family disagreements about their preferred candidate.

Why is Tulsi Gabbard supporting Trump's vision for government transformation?

She believes Trump's team aims to root out corruption and inefficiency, focusing on serving the people.

Why is Jeff Bezos standing his ground on not endorsing a presidential candidate?

He recognizes the corrosive effect of endorsements on media neutrality and the need to maintain reader trust.

Chapters

Shannon Bream discusses the final moments of the 2024 presidential race, focusing on the strategies of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump in swing states and the importance of turnout.
  • Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are making final pushes in swing states.
  • Turnout is crucial in this historically close election.
  • The national lead is within the margin of error.

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I'm Maria Bartiromo. I'm Greg Gutfeld. I'm Tammy Bruce. And this is the Fox News Rundown. Friday, November 1st, 2024. I'm Chris Foster. Election Day is Tuesday. Polls have barely budged for weeks. And if they're right, it could be a historically close election. We're looking at those six, seven swing states that are so critical. The national lead at this point, everything is within the margin of error. We're speaking with Fox News Sunday host Shannon Bream.

I'm Jessica Rosenthal. Closing pitches aim to sway those remaining undecided voters, but it really is all about turnout now. I'm meeting lifelong Democrats who are saying this is the first time they're going to vote for a Republican. I'm meeting lifelong Republicans who never thought they would vote for Donald Trump, who are voting for Donald Trump. We speak with Trump campaign surrogate, former congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard. And I am Jonathan Turley. I've got the final word on the Fox News rundown.

Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Trump are back in Wisconsin today, both holding rallies in Milwaukee. Yesterday, crisscrossing each other in Western states. Trump here in Albuquerque, New Mexico. With your vote in this election, I will end inflation. I will stop the massive invasion of criminals into your state.

And I will bring back the American dream. Harris in Phoenix, Arizona. It is time for a new generation of leadership in America. And I am ready to offer that leadership as the next president of the United States.

The latest and final Fox News power rankings before the election have Trump with a slight edge in Arizona, with the other so-called swing states considered complete toss-ups. The last time the major presidential candidates were this consistently close in nationwide polls was 1960, when John Kennedy ended up beating Richard Nixon. You know, we're looking at those six, seven swing states that are so critical. The national lead, at this point, everything

is within the margin of error. Fox News Sunday and Living the Bream podcast host Shannon Bream. We've got some really interesting analysis this week on some House races because Democrats are feeling very bullish on the House. And I think early in the night, we may know a little bit more about that because there's so many New York seats. I mean, that first Eastern time zone of closing polls.

that may give us something. But remember last time too, it took us until December to get a lot of these house races settled. So as close as things have been last time around, they're even closer this time. Yeah. And we may not know, I mean, forget about individual races. We may not even know who controls these things for a little while.

What do you know about the legal fights about ballots going on? There are dozens out there, a couple more high profile than others. There are all kinds of things about defects with mail-in ballots. Can you cast a provisional ballot? Will that be counted? Virginia had a big win at the Supreme Court this week. They were purging, they said, people who had self-identified as non-citizens from their roles.

DOJ sued them to stop that. They won at the Supreme Court, at least temporarily. The underlying portions of that case will keep playing out. But for now, they can kick those people off the rolls. And there are ways for people to cure that if it turns out that they are citizens. But there are literally more than 200 cases across the country that we are tracking, and I'm sure more to be added by the hour. Let's dig into Virginia just for a second to explain. So part of the fight was that there's supposed to be this 90-day cooling off period.

It's part of the Voting Rights Act. States can't just do what they call a systematic purge of your voter rolls. And voter rolls are cleaned up because people die, people move. They're cleaned up from time to time. But you're not supposed to do it 90 days to an election to give people more time to realize that they aren't registered. In this case, the Virginia people are saying, well, no, it wasn't a systematic purge. It was more individualized.

And in a lot of these cases, and maybe even a majority of these cases, these people are actual citizens or have become citizens, but they just screwed up on the form. And like you said, they will have a way to rectify this. Yeah, there is a way under Virginia law. And, you know, Youngkin's argument was with his state AG, Jason Mieres.

Listen, you guys, we've had this law in place since 2006. It was signed by a Democratic governor. It's been used in multiple administrations. And I asked Governor Youngkin specifically, has it been used in the 90 day period leading up to an election? He said yes. And as you said, they've argued this wasn't systematic. They said it was.

Somebody self-identifies either wrongly or rightly as a non-citizen. But there are ways within 10 to 14 days to clean that up. Or if you have a question, you're still fighting about your ballot, you are allowed to go cast a provisional ballot on Election Day. Virginia has same-day registration. You can still do that. And that vote will be held until there's a determination apparently about your status as a citizen or non-citizen.

So Virginia says with all of these different safeguards built in, they felt like they had a good defense of the law. Although I'm going to tell you between you and me and anyone else listening, I got the feeling that they were surprised that they won so easily at the Supreme Court. Yeah, 6-3. Early voting, more than a quarter of the people who were expected to vote have done so already. It's hard to say if there's anything really to be gleaned.

since Republicans are now voting early in greater numbers. So it's kind of hard to dig into those numbers, although people are trying to use it as a crystal ball. Yeah, it is.

It is really tricky, I think, because you don't know, you know, when people are turning out and some people want to break it down by gender. Clearly, Trump has an advantage with male voters. Harris has an advantage with female voters. So they're like, well, how many females have turned out? Females are outvoting the early votes. You can't just assume people are monolithic. You can try to, you know, look for data nuggets and trends.

But it is interesting to me, these record breaking numbers in state after state after state that people are getting out there and doing this early voting. Gosh, 2020 was so strange because the rules changed in a lot of places. We're in the middle of COVID. People were some of them anxious to leave, you know, about leaving their homes and voting in person and all these different options. So I think it's encouraging that that people are out there voting and doing it in big numbers because I think, gosh, what a tragedy as an American to have this right and not use it.

Yeah, and it is, you know, it can be difficult for some people to get out there on a Tuesday. You know, last minute circumstances come up. There's work, there's kids, you know, so this does give people more of an opportunity to vote. More people are going to vote. So the last minute thing this year, at least for now, there's a few minutes left to go. Maybe the trash talk. First, you had the Puerto Rico joke. Tony Hinchcliffe.

Joking at the Trump rally in New York, the island of garbage, Puerto Rico, and then Biden calling Trump supporters garbage, trying to walk that back. For people who vote on emotion and not actual, you know, big issues, I guess it could matter with very tight margins like this. I know that it's a big talker on Spanish language radio in Pennsylvania, for example. People are people are worked up and a lot of people are worked up about being called garbage if they support Donald Trump.

Yeah. And listen, you and I both are constantly looking for the so-called undecided voter. I'd love to pick their brain right now. I don't know that there are undecided people. So does this stuff sway anybody? Is the garbage truck thing while hilarious and very trolly? Is that going to motivate you to vote? I don't know. Getting people off the couch. We know you can pull people on. They can like TikToks. They can think everything is great and hilarious. They can be supportive. They can wear the T-shirts.

If they're not actually registered to vote and getting off the couch and voting, it doesn't matter. Turnout is going to be decisive in this particular race. So whether the stunts with the garbage or the, you know, the terrible joke by the comedian, whether that motivates people, I don't know. I feel like you were already leaning one way or the other if those two things would be motivational for you. But do they get you? You were leaning. Yeah.

off the couch and to vote. Maybe. You mentioned last week you're looking forward to former President Trump on Joe Rogan's podcast, three hours. I'm assuming that has to be a record for the longest interview of any presidential candidate ever. I heard the clips. It was an interesting...

casual conversation. It really was. And I had it on as I was doing show prep last Saturday. So I heard all of it, didn't physically watch all of it. I do like to watch the body language, you know, on that show in particular. I think it's interesting. So I saw some of that, but listen to the whole thing. And I thought, if you don't know about...

President Trump and you hear, gosh, what a lot of what you were hearing last week that he's fascist and crazy dictator is going to take over the country and the military is going to turn against the American people. Of course, you're not going to vote for that if you aren't really dug in and kind of studying the policy positions. You hear that and you're like, oh, that's terrifying. I wouldn't want that person to be president.

But if you watched Rogan, you'd be like, wait a minute, that's not that guy. I think he's best when he's conversational. We show his speeches all the time, but he's preaching to the choir and he does say outrageous things. And he says things that get a lot of attention and a lot of criticism. But when you saw him talking with Rogan, you didn't have to necessarily agree with his positions. But if you're just assessing him as a person, you would say,

okay, well, he can logically defend why he believes a certain thing, even if I think it's crazy and I don't believe it. You can see his thought process and how comfortable he was with Rogan. Of course, they have this connection over the, you know, fighting scene and they know all the same fighters and they, that was a big part of the discussion. You would maybe zone out if you're not into that. But,

there was a definite comfort level, you could see whether it was about environment or about government regulation or, you know, fighting over water rights, whatever it was. I mean, Trump was very comfortable jumping in and having an in-depth conversation about multiple topics. So I think it probably benefited with him, with anybody who was truly undecided and watched it and thought, okay, now I have a better picture of who this person is.

But so much of what we see from him, like I said, is those speeches. And that is a very one note kind of thing. The Rogan thing is, you know, a few more notes in the personality box for him. Yeah. Kamala Harris did her, you know, what they call their club. There have been plenty of events since and a few still to come. But she did what her club called this closing argument thing on the Ellipse in D.C. That was probably, you know, the big one with a lot of people watching. How do you think she did?

Well, I think that she probably accomplished what she wanted to, which was let's reset and refocus. Remember what happened January 6th. This guy is a threat. That's clearly her closing argument. So if you were a fan of hers, you probably thought this is solid. It was a good speech. It hit the right notes. It reminded people of all this kind of thing. If you're on the other side, you think, you know, this is fear mongering. It was a very specific setting that was drawn to, you know, draw people backwards where they've been talking about their campaigns about the future.

You know, the Democrats are happy to look back when you're talking about things like January 6th.

But when President Trump talks about 2020 or relitigating that, then they're saying, oh, he's living in the past. So I think how you felt about that speech is, you know, very much dictated about how you felt about these two candidates before the speech. Right. Finally, another indication of divided politics, the secret voting thing. The Harris campaign is telling women like, look, you can you can vote for us and don't tell. It's OK if your husband if your husband doesn't like me, you can still vote for me and just don't tell him.

And then now there's this Axios Harris poll that I thought was interesting that says 48 percent of young voters say they have lied to people close to them about who they voted for because of peer pressure. Their family doesn't – their family disagrees. Their friend group doesn't like who they voted for. And so they just lie and say, oh, yeah, no, I voted for who you like too. Yeah.

Yeah, I thought it was interesting. Somebody just, you know, crazy anecdotal stuff. I think they were at an Arizona State football game and they were going around and just shoving the microphone in these young people's faces like, who are you voting for? And a lot of people sort of freaked out like, oh, no, I'm not going to publicly talk about who I voted for. But many others were willing to say, oh, Trump, oh, Harris, whatever it is. But a lot of them, you could see that they would look at their friends that were standing there with them, sort of like, who are we voting for? Are we publicly saying who we're voting for? So, yeah.

I think not surprising that people would mislead others around them about who they voted for. Might be the only way to get through Thanksgiving this year. We'll see. Shannon Bream, host of Fox News Sunday and the Living the Bream podcast. Thanks, Shannon. Thanks, Chris. The 2024 F-150 Lightning Truck gets dirty and runs clean.

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This is Jonathan Turley with your Fox News commentary coming up. At this point, the arguments have been made. The rallies won't stop, though, through the weekend. But hopefully the undecideds have decided. And now the focus is on getting out the vote. Vice President Harris in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, kicked off her rally Wednesday like this. All right. So now is the time to remind our neighbors and our friends to make a plan to vote in person on Election Day.

Or to return your mail ballots. In Rocky Mount, North Carolina Wednesday, the former president acknowledged that while Republicans may prefer to vote on Election Day, he reminded them they can vote early through Saturday in that state. You got to get you got to just vote. And I think we're going to have a this is a very important state. We win this state. We're sailing. We're sailing. We win this state. We're sailing.

The latest Fox News poll has the two within the margin of error in both Pennsylvania and North Carolina. In Pennsylvania, the former president is up five points with independents in the Fox poll, but she's doing slightly better within her party than he is by about four points. And 35 percent of non-MAGA Republicans are going for the vice president. The early vote in Pennsylvania favors Harris. In North Carolina, the early vote is just about evenly split. Independents prefer her, though, by five points.

Michigan is a bit of a different story in the Fox poll. When you put third party candidate names into the mix, Vice President Harris is ahead of the former president by four points. In the latest Fox poll, that's just outside the margin of error. While the Fox News power rankings move Arizona into lean Republican territory, they also conclude this race is still a toss up overall. What we're seeing is, yes, there's the feeling of excitement and momentum. But the thing that

really gives me hope in this election is that at every event that I go to, I'm meeting people and hearing from people who are saying they've never voted before in their lives. Tulsi Gabbard is a former Democratic congresswoman from Hawaii turned Republican who is now on the former president's transition team. This is the first election they'll vote for and they're voting for Donald Trump.

I'm meeting lifelong Democrats who are saying this is the first time they're going to vote for a Republican. I'm meeting lifelong Republicans who never thought they would vote for Donald Trump, who are voting for Donald Trump in this election. And so it is a feeling of people coming together from all different backgrounds and

and really recognizing the serious stakes that we are faced with as a country and as a people. And I am happy when I hear them say that they're voting for President Trump. You recently said the most disruptive, transformative change in our government is about to happen in our lifetime if Trump's elected. Tell us more about what that means.

It's evident not only through the kinds of changes that President Trump has talked about

But but really through the fact that he is gathering this team of people with Elon Musk and Bobby Kennedy and myself and, you know, Bill Ackman and many others with with very different backgrounds who are intent in our own areas to root out the rod of corruption and bureaucracy and inefficiency and waste in our government and and actually, you know,

begin the process of ensuring that our government agencies are actually effective and serving the interests of the people. This is something that, you know, when you look at many different administrations in the past, I would say all throughout my lifetime,

They're usually run by people who are part of the Washington establishment from both parties. And the differences between them are not often very, very big. And there has not been the kind of serious focus that we're seeing under President Trump yet.

to actually transform the government so that it can be a government of, by, and for the people. So I think this is one of the things that is bringing so many people out to support President Trump because they recognize that, A, no president can do this alone. B, President Trump is bringing together people who aren't looking for their next job in Washington, who are simply motivated by a desire to serve the American people and make life better.

When things change, are we talking about like, it sounds like risks will be taken. What does that mean? Like, what will the FDA look like? What will the Department of Education look like in four years if the former president wins? What will other agencies look like? I guess, what is your focus?

Well, broadly, when we look at every federal agency and you compare how they are being run and what they focus on and what they prioritize with the feeling that most Americans have of distrust and frustration and discouragement about our federal agencies, you can see why the

These bureaucracies that exist more to serve themselves and maintain the status quo and enhance the power of those in charge. Why the American people feel this way?

So the specifics of exactly how each of these agencies is going to change, that's commentary for a much larger conversation. And I think part of this is going into every single agency and conducting a deep dive assessment to be able to identify where the low hanging fruit is to be able to understand.

cut out those inefficiencies. There's going to be a large changeover in personnel. You've heard Elon Musk and President Trump talk about the need to fire a lot of people who don't

who don't need to be there. Our government should not be in the business of just being a job provider. Every single person working in our government needs to have a heart for service and needs to be there to serve a particular purpose.

Do you and RFK Jr. like sit around and talk vision, like with campaign officials or JD Vance or Elon Musk? Like what's I think that I think some of some of the folks who are who are looking at you are sort of wondering what's the dynamic on the campaign among and between some of the names who are not government officials or not campaign staff like Elon, like Bobby Kennedy Jr. There.

None of us are just sitting around talking about philosophy and vision. We're spending every single minute of our time, especially during this last week here, in reaching out to voters who may still be undecided. And there are still those voters out there who don't know how they're going to cast their vote.

And so, you know, Elon is in Pennsylvania. I'm headed to Wisconsin. Bobby Kennedy and I will be doing an event there. I'll be with JD Vance in Pennsylvania. It's all hands on deck and we're all out there doing our very best to

to really help deliver the message of President Trump's vision for the country and his goals and objectives that all boil down to across all these agencies to being able to help improve the quality of life for the American people, to fix what Kamala Harris has broken

And to get us back on this path for our country towards a future that that is peaceful and free and prosperous. We've all had conversations. You know, Bobby Kennedy has sat down with President Trump, you know, several months ago. I have done the same and spent time with him now is and as a result of those conversations now.

You know, we are doing all that we can. And Elon has had his own. We are doing all that we can to help elect President Trump because we are aligned with his vision and we want to help him carry it out for the American people. OK, one more for you because you're going to Wisconsin. When you hear of Republicans who say they won't vote for former President Trump, like Mayor Sean Riley, who's been the mayor of Waukesha, do you think they represent a significant part

number of Republicans. It sounds like you're saying you're hearing people on the opposite end, but there are certainly that man in the Harris campaign is making that pitch to them.

Well, when you look at the and I don't I don't I have not met the mayor of Waukesha, so I can't speak to him. But when you look at the well-known national figure Republicans who have endorsed Kamala Harris like Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and others, to me, what I see is is kind of a group of two different kind of people. Number one is is people who have a long history of being a part of the

uniparty war machine in Washington who hate the fact that Donald Trump is a leader who has the audacity to meet with adversaries and dictators in a fight for peace, number one. And he's interested in ending wars, not starting them, number two. But you also see a bunch of people who...

You know, were either fired or left as disgruntled employees who maybe had worked under his administration. Everyone is free to make their own decisions for their own reasons. But I have found it very surprising to me. And I don't think they represent the majority of the Republican Party, because if they did, Donald Trump would not have been the Republican nominee for president for the last three presidential elections.

That, to me, is the most telling metric out there, that Republican voters who are not Washington elite are making their own decisions and their voices are being heard through their votes. In 2016, as in

2024, Republican voters, there was actually a primary, unlike for Kamala Harris. There were actually primary elections. And in both of those cases, voters had many other choices of people who are prominent Republicans, many of whom hold a very different worldview than Donald Trump. And overwhelmingly, the choice has been Donald Trump. So that really is a very clear message to me. And again, I've been surprised. I have friends of mine who are lifelong Republicans who

who I never thought they have said I will never vote for Donald Trump. And they supported other people in the primary election. And, you know, I disagreed with their choice. And we've had great conversations. They're still friends. We still care about each other. But I just I've been getting these text messages saying literally yesterday, a friend texted me. He said, I just did something I never thought I would I would do in my life. I voted for Donald Trump. What would you want to focus on in a Trump administration?

You know, I'm a soldier, a veteran. I've deployed to different war zones in different parts of the world. And I spent eight years in Congress on the Foreign Affairs and the Armed Services Committees.

And one of the things I respect most about President Trump is kind of what I mentioned, and that is that he is certainly the first Republican in my lifetime who has had the courage to stand up against the military-industrial complex, had the courage to stand up against the uniparty of war in Washington, to include leaders in his own party, knowing that it may be politically harmful for him, but to really take a stand

for peace in recognizing that, yes, we must have a strong and capable and ready military, but knowing the serious cost of war and that war should be a last resort after exercising and exhausting all means of diplomacy.

So we got it. We have to get him elected. That's what we're going to focus on doing over this next week. And if given the opportunity, I would be honored to help him achieve that specific goal. Tulsi Gabbard, former congresswoman and on the Trump transition team, should it be needed. Thank you so much for joining. Thank you. Have a great day.

And now, some good news with Tanya J. Powers. Nancy Jones has quite a story. She's the widow of country legend George Jones, and her memoir, Play in Possum, tells readers what their 30-plus year marriage was like. Jones was known at one time for his hard living, complete with alcohol and drug addiction, before kicking them for good. Before his death in 2013 at age 81, he said in his own memoir that Nancy saved his life.

But in 2020, it was her life that needed saving when she contracted COVID-19 and had to be hospitalized. I did die for 15 minutes. I mean, I literally died. And I guess I went to heaven because I've never seen anything so beautiful in my life.

And but God wasn't through with me. Nancy recently told me about the harrowing experience in detail. I've never been so scared in my whole life. And that's when I did a whole lot of praying. But I got down to 90 pounds. I lost all my hair. I lost 70 percent of my lung because there was a fungus eating it up.

But nobody knew it. She had to relearn to walk during her long recovery, which is ongoing. I still get short breath and all this stuff, but I don't have to have oxygen. They said if you fly or go anywhere, you're going to have to have an oxygen tank. I have nothing. Nancy told me her strength comes from something larger.

her faith. I want people to know that prayers are answered. They might not jump at you right now, but God's listening and he knows and he knew exactly what I needed to get out of that hospital and he helped me. Tonya J. Powers, Fox News.

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It's time for your Fox News Commentary. Jonathan Turley. What's on your mind? It is not every day that you go from being Obi-Wan Kenobi to Steve Palatine in 24 hours. However, Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos now has the distinction of having Luke.

also known as Mark Hamill, lead a boycott of his Democracy Dies in Darkness newspaper as now the Daily of the Dark Side. Figures like former Representative Liz Cheney announced that she was canceling her subscription as a boycott movement reportedly led 200,000 people to give up their post subscriptions. Then something fascinating happened. Bezos stood his ground.

This week, Bezos penned an op-ed that doubled down on his decision not to endorse a presidential candidate now or in the future. The encouraging aspect of Bezos' column was that he not only recognized the corrosive effect of endorsements on maintaining neutrality as a media organization,

But he also recognized that the Post was facing plummeting revenues and readership due to its perceived bias and activism. I used to write regularly for the Post, and I wrote in my new book, The Indispensable Right, about the decline of the newspaper as part of what I call advocacy journalism. Bezos addresses this and says, quote, Our profession is now the least trusted of all. Something we are doing is clearly not working.

Bezos could do for the media what Musk did for free speech.

He could create a bulwark against advocacy journalism in one of the premier newspapers in the world. Students in J schools today are being told to abandon neutrality and objectivity. The left will accept nothing short of total capitulation. And Bezos does not appear willing to pay that price. Instead, he could not just save the Post, but American journalism itself. If so, all I can say is this.

Welcome to the fight, Mr. Bezos. I'm Jonathan Turley, and much of this is in my new book, The Indispensable Right, Free Speech in an Age of Rage. ♪

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