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Evening Edition: Is North Korea Supporting Russia With Troops?

2024/10/22
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Grinnell Scott: 报道指出,俄罗斯可能正在从朝鲜获得军事支持,这使得俄乌冲突可能进入一个新的、更危险的阶段。俄罗斯不仅依靠国内力量,还可能从朝鲜获得军队增援,这引发了乌克兰总统泽连斯基的警告。这一事件也突显了俄罗斯和朝鲜之间日益密切的军事合作关系,对国际社会构成严重关切。 Grinnell Scott: 俄朝两国关系的升温,以及普京将乌克兰冲突责任归咎于西方精英和基辅政权的言论,都加剧了国际社会的担忧。朝鲜对俄军事援助的规模尚存争议,但其对乌克兰政府、人民和军队都构成严重威胁。 Alex Hogan: 乌克兰总统泽连斯基声称朝鲜向俄罗斯派遣了1万名士兵,而韩国情报机构则称朝鲜向莫斯科提供了1500名特种部队士兵。这一消息引发了国际社会的广泛担忧,美国及其盟友对此表示高度关注。俄朝两国领导人之间的密切关系,以及他们公开展示的合作,进一步加剧了国际社会的担忧。朝鲜援助俄罗斯可能增强俄军实力,并对韩国构成重大威胁。 Alex Hogan: 韩国呼吁立即撤回朝鲜军队,并考虑向乌克兰提供武器,以对俄罗斯施压,阻止其使用朝鲜军队。韩国担心俄罗斯可能会以某种形式回报朝鲜的军事援助,例如提供先进技术或武器。朝鲜与韩国之间的紧张关系日益加剧,包括导弹试射和气球袭击事件,这使得局势更加复杂。 Alex Hogan: 韩国目前没有直接向乌克兰提供军事援助,但正在考虑采取行动以阻止俄罗斯使用朝鲜军队。美国对乌克兰的武器供应政策保持不变,即乌克兰可以自卫反击。各国对向乌克兰提供武器的策略有所不同。泽连斯基的“胜利计划”包括加入北约、加强防御和核威慑等内容,但其可行性存在争议。如果乌克兰加入北约,将触发北约第五条,可能导致其他国家卷入冲突。 Alex Hogan: 普京可能正在试图组建一个联盟来对抗支持乌克兰的国家。俄乌战争持续时间长,造成大量人员伤亡,引发了对战争进一步升级的担忧。俄罗斯可能继续与其他国家建立关系,以获得武器或兵力支持。伊朗制造的无人机和潜在的朝鲜士兵正在参与俄乌战争,这改变了战争的动态。向乌克兰提供更多援助的主要障碍是担心本国公民的伤亡。国际社会正在密切关注俄乌冲突的局势发展,并试图应对不断恶化的局势。

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Why is there concern over the deepening military relationship between Russia and North Korea?

The concern stems from the potential for North Korea to supply troops to bolster Russian forces in Ukraine, which could escalate the conflict and pose a threat to regional stability.

What did Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky claim about North Korea's involvement in the conflict?

Zelensky claimed that North Korea had supplied Russia with ten thousand soldiers to aid in the war against Ukraine.

What did South Korea’s spy agency confirm about North Korea's involvement?

South Korea’s spy agency confirmed that North Korea sent over a thousand special operations forces to Russia to help with the war in Ukraine.

Why is South Korea considering supplying weapons to Ukraine?

South Korea is considering supplying weapons to Ukraine as a deterrent to prevent Russia from using North Korean troops, and to potentially pressure Russia into withdrawing those troops.

What is the potential threat to South Korea if North Korea supports Russia?

The potential threat to South Korea is that Russia might repay North Korea with new technology or weaponry, exacerbating tensions and increasing the risk of conflict on the Korean Peninsula.

What is the 'victory plan' that Ukraine is proposing?

The 'victory plan' includes Ukraine's aspirations to join NATO, further defense, and nuclear deterrence, as well as post-war perspectives to help NATO in the future.

Why has there been skepticism about Ukraine's victory plan?

There is skepticism about Ukraine's victory plan due to mixed reviews and concerns about the feasibility of its goals, particularly regarding NATO membership and defense strategies.

What is the current U.S. policy on supplying weapons to Ukraine?

The current U.S. policy allows Ukraine to defend itself by striking targets from which it knows it will be hit, with variations in specific terms depending on the country supplying the weapons.

What is the main sticking point for countries not giving more aid to Ukraine?

The main sticking point is the concern about the loss of life of their own citizens by sending them to fight in the war, which is why countries are cautious about supplying more manpower.

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The chapter discusses the growing concern over North Korea potentially supplying troops to support Russia's war in Ukraine, as claimed by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and confirmed by South Korea's spy agency.
  • Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky claims North Korea has supplied 10,000 soldiers to Russia.
  • South Korea's spy agency confirms North Korea sent 1500 special operations forces to Russia.
  • The U.S. has not confirmed these claims but is closely monitoring the situation.

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I'm Brett Baer. I'm Rachel Campos-Duffy. I'm David Asman, and this is the Fox News Rundown. Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024. I'm Grinnell Scott.

Ukraine and the world are watching a rapidly developing partnership between Russia and North Korea that could mean a new and perhaps more dangerous phase in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, now well into its third year. Russia could potentially be bolstering its forces, not only from within, but allegedly getting troops from North Korea. This is something that we've heard Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky sound the alarm over. This is the Fox News Rundown.

evening edition.

There is a new nervousness in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and North Korea appears to be at the heart of it. The world was watching just this past June when Russian leader Vladimir Putin made a rare trip outside his country to North Korea for a meeting with Kim Jong-un. Many believe it's during this time the two nations solidified a mutual agreement to stand at each other's side should one be threatened.

As Russia continues its incursion into Ukraine, North Korea appears willing to stand at their side. In the past, through translated comments, Russian President Putin has diverted blame away from his own nation for the Ukrainian conflict. Responsibility for fomenting the Ukrainian conflict, for its escalation and for the increasing number of victims lies entirely with Western elites.

and of course the current regime in Kyiv, for which the Ukrainian people are essentially strangers. Depending on who you talk to at this moment, the concentration of North Korean aid being deployed to supplement Russian assets in Ukraine is assured, but widely disputed by the numbers.

This is extremely alarming for not only the Ukrainian government, the Ukrainian people, but especially the Ukrainian forces that are fighting on the front lines. Alex Hogan is a Fox News foreign correspondent based in London. To know that Russia could potentially be bolstering its forces, not only from within, but also now outside.

allegedly getting troops from North Korea. This is something that we've heard Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky sound the alarm over saying that he had intelligence initially that there were 10,000 North Korean soldiers that were being prepared to join Russian forces. We're hearing something different from South Korea where they released information saying that North Korea has supplied Moscow with

1500 special ops agents and those agents are going to be going in to help Russia's war in Ukraine. So as a result of this, this is creating a lot of concern on the ground in Ukraine, on the ground in South Korea. And we can jump into those reasons a little bit later, but also a lot of concern internationally. We've heard the U S and other allies saying that they are extremely alarmed by this pandemic.

potential, what this would not only mean for Russian forces, but also what this could mean for North Korea and its potential nuclear threats. When we look at the genesis of this, and we know there is a piece of a border that Russia and North Korea share. And back in June, I believe it was, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong,

Russian President Vladimir Putin took a trip to Pyongyang to have a chat. Is the feeling is this is when a lot of this came together? Well, we've really been seeing a growing, warming relationship between Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. So in the years that have passed, I mean, we've just seen everything from...

more lavish gifts that are explained, these elaborate trips where they show off each other's weaponry, talking about future cooperation. They even released a video in this recent trip where they were driving around in a car together in what appeared to be some kind of dash cam footage or GoPro footage, really showcasing these two leaders not only talking international values

cooperation potential, but also just hanging out in what appeared to be a video of what was creating the image of two friends. And that's exactly what we've heard both leaders say, that they have this growing relationship and why that is concerning for the rest of the world and people looking very closely at the situation. Not only could this potentially

potentially mean a benefit for Russian forces they have been trying to bolster their forces so that could be more boots on the ground and more manpower it's also a massive threat for South Korea so South Korea is doing multiple things as a result of this they are calling for the immediate withdrawal of these North Korean troops allegedly deployed in Russia again it is worth

reminding that we are saying alleged and supposed because while some other countries are saying this is definitely happening, we've not heard that official confirmation from the U.S. just yet. There's another thing that South Korea is also doing. It's

Saying that it could even go as far as supplying weapons to Ukraine as what would be a means to put pressure on Russia to not bring in these North Korean troops, because the big concern for South Korea is that if.

North Korea really was supplying troops to Russia, to help Russia, that Russia inevitably would want to repay North Korea. Now, what that repayment looks like, of course, that's not exactly clear. But the idea is that it

potentially could be some form of new technology, new weaponry, and it comes at a time of really, really bad tensions that we have been seeing boiling over, not only within the last several years with more missile launches and tests than North Korea conducts, which are extremely concerning for the South Korean government and South Korean residents, but there's also the concern, given the

the massive amounts of trash balloons that North Korea has been sending over to South Korea. And just last week, North Korea conducted this choreographed detonation, blowing up all of the roads that once connected it to South Korea. So a high time of tension between these two border countries. And then the concern is that if North Korea is helping Russia, that Russia will help North Korea back and make this

just that much worse. The interesting part in what you gave there, a very thorough answer as to what this means all around is the piece about the

the South Korean idea of perhaps sending weaponry to Ukraine. Perhaps we should understand what South Korea's, I guess, role is at this point. Are they not sending anything to Ukraine? Are they sort of standing by? Where do they stand at this moment? There's no direct support at this point in terms of North South Korea. It has been one of the

majority of countries around the world that has vehemently condemned the war in Ukraine and Russia's invasion started in 2022. But this would be a completely different step. In this release that we're seeing in some of these statements, there's no specifics about what this would be. It really seems like this...

potential of sending weapons is more than anything a way to deter Russia from using any kind of North Korean troops on the ground. And it's not by any means a country that is helping support Ukraine to the same extent that we are seeing

the U.S., the U.K., Germany, all of these major key players. And as you mentioned earlier, there's been a lot of conversations just in recent weeks over how do you move forward with what is happening in Ukraine. So this week,

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. He visited Ukraine to meet with Zelensky and talk about where we go from here, kind of taking a step back and looking at the U.S. perspective. And the big thing right now, as we're talking about international support and who's supplying weaponry and who is giving this aid, Zelensky has been touting this

victory plan. And that's something that, you know, were this to come to fruition, it would be able to benefit a lot of countries at the same time in terms of, you know, South Korea wouldn't have to be worried about what the

what the gift that Russia might give North Korea as a result might be. If we actually are having a conversation as to will this victory plan play out, there's a lot of skepticism. There's a lot of mixed reviews around Europe as to whether this can really happen. We can break that down a little bit more, but there's a lot in that as well.

We're speaking with Fox News foreign correspondent Alex Hogan. More of our conversation coming up.

You talked about Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and the discussions that he has had with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky. And one of the things that often comes up about the weapons that the United States is supplying for Ukraine is how that weaponry is used. Has that come up at all as far as any change in weapons?

With this growing partnership that we're seeing on the side of Russia and North Korea, has there been any change in discussion that we have heard about the liberal use of U.S. weapons in defending Ukraine? So far, that policy really has remained that

Ukraine should be able to defend itself by striking targets from which it knows it is going to be hit. And that is a similar strategy that we've seen most of the countries that are supplying weapons to Ukraine take. There are

variations and that really falls into specifics of Sweden gave very specific terminology. France, very different terminology. Germany, very different terminology. And when it comes to this victory plan, one of the bullet points, there's several in this that you've

Ukraine wants an invitation to NATO, further defense, nuclear deterrence, these post-war perspectives to be able to help NATO in the future. But as it pertains to that

bullet point on defense and being able to strike areas to really fight back and bring this war to an end. That's something that, for example, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has refuted, saying that the supply of long-range cruise missiles specifically to Kyiv would really only contradict the

the goal of not hitting other targets. And that's what we continue to see. So there's been no major change just yet. Of course, that's what Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is hoping will change as we move forward. But we're still hearing this resounding message of unity and support from Washington. How far

That support goes in terms of some of these new demands that has yet to be seen. If Ukraine were to officially become a member of NATO, as it hopes to become through this victory plan proposal, that, of course, would create problems.

A major issue, which is one that we were talking about at the very beginning of the war, is that if Ukraine were a part of NATO, it essentially would be bringing up Title V or Article V where other countries would have to get involved. Interesting you mentioned that because I wanted to bring up this point. And because this is such a fluid situation as to how this war is playing out and who's

winning or not winning at any one point. And we talk about the partnership that we see developing between Russia and North Korea. I wonder how much we know about word of a summit that

Vladimir Putin is trying to put together, maybe even trying to piece together a larger coalition that could counterbalance the support that Ukraine has among many world nations. Do we know much about that? Is that something we're still trying to dig deeper into? Well, I think that is a great question because it's a question that is on the minds of so many leaders right now watching this very

fluid and unfortunately very, very tragic situation. Anytime that we look at a war such as this, you know, you're just seeing two countries that have been at war for two years now and the countless numbers of lives, we still don't have that exact number of how many people have died and just how tragic it is on the ground for those families and the broader fear that this really could spill out

into something much, much larger. So there is that very real concern that Russia will continue to build some of these relationships and that one after another we could see more countries

potentially either supplying weapons or supplying manpower. We know that we've continued to see Iranian-made drones being used in the battlefield. So now these new developments of having potential North Korean soldiers fighting alongside them, it is a very different dynamic that we are potentially talking about as it pertains to more people. And that has been

The main sticking point for not giving Ukraine more aid throughout the war has been other leaders trying to prevent the loss of life of their own citizens by sending them to fight in this war. So to see another country potentially supplying Russia with that manpower and those troops, those boots on the ground, it is something that there are a lot of conversations actively playing out about how do we control these

these potentially worsening situations and tensions? And where do we go from here if this is what is going to potentially be playing out? Where do we go from here? That is the question. It is a threat and a conflict that we are watching very closely.

very closely and will continue to do so. Alex Hogan is a Fox News foreign correspondent based over in London, keeping an eye on the situation for us. Alex, thank you so much for joining us on the Fox News Rundown Evening Edition. Thanks so much for having me.

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