So hey, guys, hey.
say, hey.
what city are you in?
Everybody's been traveling so much where .
you at angles .
you are all.
yeah, be home .
in a month. Ww.
in a IT around A T E. Yeah yeah. Just anything .
I can stop my face with. Are you doing okay?
Keep a clean and see the opening.
Yeah, this is an new.
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of pop tart so morning. I made an english .
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cinnamon and sugar.
by the way, Better way you said, made your own meaning. You put cinemas sugar.
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show how I am alien fumes. I've gone back to bed twice already this morning.
really j jay, you just stood a back and fourth, you wwb you were overseas on a thing and then you came back to the late and and when you and you came back and you came back, why?
Yeah because I I don't know I I literally I almost cancel this today. I almost called them and said that I might .
have called IT .
or something. I'm I time I and and know you're to say because I want to see the kids is up. But come on, man.
you got ta .
take care ious that you can do that take you you because I got I am edit yesterday at IT today you know .
it's like a and where you .
where you're up late editing no.
I went to bet at nine, got up at four .
thirty so and OK.
you're tired.
boring.
high no, no, fuck you.
Know.
yes, sky.
I know Jason loves this Kathy readers section .
of this. I've got my coffee here.
Okay, good. So as sky, I we're doing our will and testament like you have to fill up you to do a thing. So congratulations you guys.
It's all going to IT was just stupid but have to go in there and you're sit .
in this you know conference room with a guy with this a state layer any goes I said I go so wait and let me get this straight so if I die and I was doing like before what and then after but so I go if I did because i'm to stop you when you die, go ahead and .
I and .
I was like.
what it's .
coming for .
you yeah no. I'm sorry when you died, go head and I was like, jesus.
but you know what though? You know what shown is so I had on what is today, if I had last weekend, I heard her all of our good friend, brother. We and we were watching some soccer, and he came over, we and I said, and as you guys know, because Jason takes fuck and pictures of, it's sort as paul mckellar of my freezer and my treats that I have in there faces, he's my treat rally and anyway, oh, is this like ice cream sandwich from .
this place out here called .
around swap and they somebody just .
woke up so good.
So .
he. I'm not coming back here. Yeah, i'm here. There's one visit. And right? Yeah, here this this is a one time visit.
The plane. No, i'm looking .
to enjoy IT as much as possible. I'm not looking for that. They need to be a long, shady time IT just needs to be.
look for every ice weeks you just just to N A or know.
enjoy IT man, because I don't want the end of the day when we like today, how was IT and you go go where you take the tube.
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like I like his out for .
like in his out is do I like poppy?
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your two die bateman died .
with zero water retention. And maybe can .
I make IT can I get out of you right now if you happen to pass before me?
Yeah.
will you let me put at some point on somewhere on your tombstone? Do IT put.
I think about IT think about .
think about IT don't tell .
you a little about that in that in that meaning with the the estate lawyer you know ware guy and he goes I said something you know came up with that like the health initiation like, you know, i've got what is called where you can pull the plug e or not and and you go, you know, you just got to make sure like if you're in, if you have a feeding two or something and I go, I would hold up a feeding to .
now sure he was .
sure was sure he would. It's such a short ky.
shown how quickly if we installed and then we to get to our guess. But if we installed, if you came home in your kitchen. There was a trough but I was filled IT was filled like donuts and all the stuff you love and gus and her shy syrup, he's something about a come and all the stuff that you want an end and slappy how long is the time from the initial um discussed and and sort of like you know feeling of of you know resentment and alarm right of the initial seeing IT yeah so you actually getting done IT .
and going to town yeah by by the way a trough of just all your favorite stuff are just be incredible.
I'm saying the gap is .
pretty a very truth and a sweet t right have a lever that kind like a like a just tube like a little thing yeah yeah .
that's true. every.
Trade track switch.
yes, with my mouth just hanging on the bottle.
I am.
I going to have maple draw that.
please, as they just get design of IT the .
engineering of some people just get some top design, get Johnson lives on this.
but you know so well, this is all a tee up to your classy guest.
So guest, well done. But you know what is a classes guess? But he's also no no stranger to have in a laugh, because he likes laugh, but he's also made us laugh. This guy, he's another one. These people, I can't say anything these done because you're immediately be gone to know who he is, because he's such a part of the fabric of our lives, especially the three of us, because we are such admires of what he has done over the years and how much he's made us laugh. And doing this stuff at the highest level, they were like, oh, god.
And I would I would say this not just doing ourself at the high level for me, potentially doing what I would consider, and no offence to either view the greatest american sit com of all time, because I just took me through so many, and I just always made me laugh. I got to talk to him about IT recently with one of his coast stars. He's in a million different T. V. Shows, but he he's made, malone said alone he's also noted .
that dance in what .
do .
you do in OK with this format should somehow find a way to .
have a camera .
on the guest while you're doing your thing because you're not .
often keep catching yourself .
betakes putting my hand over my mouth.
You are so funny, so stupid ted dancing hello, I was just with Jimmy burns last night and debby brows ni at the hollywood ball and we were talking about you just last night and and sky and I everything every like I would say three, four years we watched from the beginning to the end. No joke every episode. Cheers every several years, every .
episode .
over next time.
And so far with me.
no, but that's good. Trust me, that's very good.
So ted and and I you guys, you and what to invite me on your podcast would very, very kindly had me on. And I got to, and I just watched a bunch of epsom. And so I wait crazy on you guys with cheery stuff, but I wanted talk to you about, i'm so interested in that moment.
So cheers is such a big thing, especially our generation. We grew up with that. We were little kids, but we loved that.
What what was that moment at first time you got the script for? cheers. I love this more than anything.
I'm sorry, I barely hear what you are think because I loved watching the first question of a podcast as you're trying to formulate, how do we get him talk? Sorry, you're very good at IT. Well, no.
thank you. Very good. No, I want to know about. cheers. I want to know about.
So just recap. When did I know the first moment .
that what was the first moment that you layed eyes on the script for? cheers?
wow. I was doing A A last second replacement on taxi. wow. And I was there.
And Jimmy and lesson blann hit an office down the way at param. out. And they were working on chairs.
And Jimmy had remembered me from was the best of the west. Remember that a western com? yeah.
Anyway, an audition for IT didn't get IT. And he remembered me, call me down. And I guess that we had a conversation before I got the script and read IT.
And then I addition two or three times and they said to me, okay, don't don't take another job without letting us know. I so you're saying it's my part. No, just just don't know.
Just don't take another job. And and I went out the back door and literally up the front door, coming up the stairs to the front door, the office was like, every actor in L. A.
I think I got cheers because of Shelley long, because he just SHE really nailed that part right. Yeah, really. SHE was amaze. And we got teamed up together .
when we did as couples that that must have just sealed because you and Shelly had the most incredible siccum chemistry that yeah really makes chemistry, but was magic. I mean, that you must have, you guess, must have felt that must be one of the things that was instant, right there was was in a capable you just had, you know.
great. I mean, I am always, always the worst. Um my first reaction to Shelly while we auditioning was on, no, no, 是 a bad a really, really yes, horrible.
Why why I just.
I don't know. We were, we are so different. Our styles, our approach are everything is really different, which is why I think IT worked because yeah, he was like, this fair fight. You know, it's hard for us sometimes to be in the room together. But when we started working, IT was, I was I was just fantastic because you you'd make her and sheet smack you back harder and he was just brilliant.
Did you always want to do sick like television comedy because you've made, you've made you have you haven't just made a career out of IT. And again, at risk of embarrassing you, you've been at the top of old television comedy for like forty fucked .
in years .
yeah like I want to do television thing that you wanted to do .
no no um I didn't think about until stanford and then I discovered acting and I was just life made sense. I was a, not an academic. I came from like scientific people in my family. My father, my sister was incredibly bright, and I just faked my way through school.
You stand for .
geographically interesting. I came from arizona, flagstaff. All my friends were hoping, nava hooo kids and ranchers, sons and daughters, and galloping here and there and then went to a private school and connected and can school for boys.
yeah. And I think I got there for that reason. And then that's kind of interesting. And then truly, I was a horrible student. The first two weeks at stanford I I was sitting in an uh, english and it's going to sounds wear IT was an advanced acec english class because I looked into IT because I because i'm not very bright.
I test wonderful because I don't give a show, you know, I just kind of wing IT make IT a game and have fun. yeah. But I was sitting there going, not only do I not understand what the professor just said in response to this question, this girl sitting next to me said that I have no at, and I just pretty much dropped out, wanted to play basketball, nowhere near talent enough.
So all my dreams kind of fizzled. And then a little while after that, trying to take some Young lady out and have a cup of coffee, and he told me about five minutes in, because I don't think SHE was enjoying. I have an audition I have to go to and I said, can I come along and off?
I went and to stand in the room, I was like a bird break play. And to stand in the room, they said, well, just make, do something. And I got up and I heard people laugh, was like, oh, what a minute that, you know, and literally.
this drug.
yeah, I took, took my first acting class and was in some productions. And I pulled my station wagon to the sleeping bag in the back and never left the theatre until somebody said, you should really go back east and study. So off I went to carney. But everyone, wow, let me take, let me take over from not thank you so much for being our first guests did is a .
good turn and .
we have well the and so great. Thank you. Thank you. Really appreciate .
IT was a lot of IT was a lot of fun. I love talking to you and worry so much. I mean, you know again, I where we're going, i'm going to get off cheers at some point. Um i've got ten off on .
IT so many times before guys but .
I love I love you so much and I made I made ted and what he listen to me go on about one of my favorite one, which I ve said before. But I want to say IT because i've inset IT here one of my favorite moments, I think my the funniest moment for me in TV history for me is this moment where Shelly long goes, you'll never see me again. You'll never see them in chAmbers ever again.
This is the last time you'll ever hear from me. What do you know? Those guys are dying. They're like you watching SHE makes this grand farewell. SHE walks out and then all the sun, you see the door open and SHE realize he forgot her coat and you see her ARM come in, start to reach for the coat, the coat rack, and less carless standing there. And as you see the hand, because she's just said, you'll never see me again, hand in feeling for the coat. Encourage, just grabs the cott impose IT just really so hand and and and then finally, SHE falls through the SHE falls to the door and her goes here we really look at staying in.
I don't know .
why that fucking every part of that joke to me, every bit of IT just fucking works IT just makes me laugh because.
you know, it's coming to you sort of like an all of the way.
They're still get that through .
the hoop knowing that is .
coming great. Every every episode he didn't almost every episode ers, right.
be about twenty of them went, yeah, yeah. Sense of physical commit.
We we four have been so lucky to work so much in A A multi camera, you know, in front of a live audience. I mean, how much do you guys miss IT? There's no Better job, at least for an actor, than multi cam television.
I think I would right, have IT pretty tough. As we said earlier, they're pretty late. But man, and especially on to show that Jimmy's directing or usually don't work much on mondays and a camera blocking day is done at lunch. Yeah um it's it's a real sweet ride.
Did you all do three weeks on one week out?
Yeah, we did.
Yeah I mean, that's that's amazing.
The greatest believable .
the the .
only time ever got mad, Jimmy was member shanny wanted to switch tape night from friday to tuesday night. And I love the idea that friday night when you were done, that you had no homework for the weekend, right? And I was felt when you had to tape on tuesday, you're thinking, you know, monday you've got a black camera block .
and do all this. You're turning the crew with with another show or they flip flip the stands around for .
the other side of the, I like two nights like to because I could soaked up the lines over the weekend.
Our lines. A tough thing for you out to remember.
Yeah, I had to say, I mean, I started off with a slow, dumb joke, which is, you know, a great living. Sam allows that you. It's the funny is easier the way for the law and you're not doing frasure or dian fast, you brilliant, you know, complicated.
And i've moved on to having some of the most difficult lines to say with mike shore in the good place. Yeah yeah, no. IT was so elevated, but it's not hard for me to learn them. It's hard for me to retain them. So this year, at the best time with my Youngest daughter, Katrina, SHE would come to work with me. And I never had to worry about lines because he was there kind of jamming them into my brain because literally, if the camera is turning around and there's that fifteen, twenty minute polls or whatever, yeah, I need to make sure I reload the lines really button so they don't fall .
at your head and twenty minutes so she'd run lines .
with you and self yeah because she's really .
good at with a great time we'll be right back .
and now back to the show and you've got .
had the good fortune of working that you mention make sure whom we all know in in our friends with you got to work with him on the good place. Now you might have a new show. Is that right?
Netflix, you know what? I think the name is changing as we speak, I said. But IT came from a documentary and out of chili, out of santiago chili. sure. Yeah, yeah, they're very fun.
Y shang, just wipe a five part many series on chili on the food, not the country. He said he.
he said, in a five part meal.
he was revised.
I do love chelly.
When do you guys do IT? And now I can you sorry.
are you guys not on camera as far as what people get to see? no.
About youtube.
youtube? No, no. When you guys are idiots. No, are so fucking funny. People want to see this.
But then we would have stick his hair on. I mean, looking .
down.
Let me take .
over again. What are you directing this? Why you so exhausted?
What are what are you looking series? It's called black rabbit. It's about about dog tracks. No, like we .
would all be out like .
a year as another one of these sort of like moody, dark people die kind of things.
That is eight .
epo des eight, eight and one eight, right?
Yes.
is slightly disturbing because we all did twenty two, twenty four. And now they say, you have eight, you go, well, they must hate us, right?
What I going to do the rest?
No thing yeah hey .
I want to go back to the one when you said you so you kind of started with the acting kind of on a lark um to filled time unused by your study english and stuff basketball. So I would imagine IT was a very natural thing for you to do in other the words you want. You weren't complicating yourself with any sort of learn technique that that came later.
Well, tell me about that. So you probably is started feeling very natural. We're just playing pretend. And IT came to you very easily. And then you go into learning how to act and all the technique that comes with those classes.
Did you did you have a place for all that technique? Or did you kind of go, oh, that's good to know and everything, but I just this kind of feels natural to me and how complicated is acting to you? Did did you allow for IT to become something different once you went in the class?
Yeah, I think there was a point of carnegie, which I loved, that was the only acting I knew. So a lot of other people that come having acted before, studied before, and they were had their judgements about carnegie. I just was lapping IT up because I was the first, the only time i've ever done IT. So I didn't matter to me. Then I got went to new york, and I was terrified.
And you know, when you come out of carnegie, you're supposed to go into the a raptor system and there's, I think they are called tcs, where you go when you addition for all the companies, ramin country and none of his audience at all, we went, well, shit, right? We will all go to new york, and that's what we did. But IT terrified me so much that I went to john houseman men at Julia and said, I want to roll. Having just graduated from carnea, wanted to be back in a system to protect me in new york somehow.
And he like, truly were some sort of easy, easy track there I mean.
yeah but at least was like you were cocoon and he very sweet ky said, well, if you still feel that way here from now, come back but so off I went and then I study I did study um names of neighbor od playoff famous famous sand Sandy mines there. Thank you. I did two years of a Sandy misser student a teaching A A version of that which really is what I think propelled me out the door. Acting wise as far as technique because I stopped being about showing your technique or demonstrating how good you are or and I got me out of my head and started focusing on the other person.
which is kind of the whole point of, well, it's interesting because each house did went for two to a front, involve us in a bunch of people that we know. But what I found is what's interesting is you go you go and you study theater, you went to carney email and you can go to a lot a lot of great places around the country. Um but what's the most valuable is when they start talking you about what to do when you're trying to get a job, you know because all that stuff is really greatest sort of great theoretical stuff, but it's so much different when you start to get into trying to get a job.
Who do you like? How to addition .
and how addition, how addition, how to do IT? In the moment they don't have it's like they don't have time for you to go through your fuck and process when when you're Young actor and you've only got a couple lines and you've got to show up, you've got to show and deliver.
You know why? Because as you guys know, because they've got to move on, they've got to get your fucking and reaction or you whatever your stupid thing is and they've got to get after this other scene. So they don't have time for you to go like you think that my character wood is like do to shut up.
Yes.
you deliver and that's the scarious part, right? I mean you when you walk and you're the new guy I have here.
is that right and you want to score um but then yeah you don't want to overplay IT either.
But I was really lucky when I got daily, which was, I mean, I did. I understudied an abroad way show for a year and a half. I did.
So popper and I did. I did anything I could. I would be an extra and a commercial and be just as happy I didn't care as long as I was working, doing something, I was thrill. And even just being an an acting class was as exciting as being paid IT didn't matter to me in the beginning and when I came to L A, I was lucky enough because L, A you're just there to make IT. There's no other reason to be and I accept pilot.
let's do IT right?
And I was a friend of mind that started something I called the mastery IT was a um the actor's institute and there was one weekend kind of transformational IT wasn't how to to act but IT was kind of more about this is how you're presenting yourself. Is that what you want to be doing? Because this is what IT happens when you walk in the you got a big fuckyou on your shoulder or whatever IT is right, you know that you don't really know what you're walking in with.
And then you put acting on top of that are sometimes and he actually kind of a not a flying, flying man, but he, well, he is in that he said that I want you to anchor this project that i'm doing, this actors institute here, and I, and will do IT by you teaching acting. And I was, he convinced me that I had to do this, and I I would throw up every night before teaching a class. IT was the hardest, most painful thing and I can't.
It's not a happy ending like, you know, all my students became famous song, yeah, I hate IT IT, but IT IT took my mind off of auditioning. IT was so much more fun to go addition than teach a class I and one of the things he taught mate was, you know, it's a good it's a good chance for you when you go in addition to check out whether not you want to be working with those those people. You're always trying to impress them, to work you, to hire you and to like you, but do you like them? And IT not an an an arrogant way, but just heads up, make sure you're looking at them.
And the other thing is they want you to be good. They still want you to be good. They are definitely want to .
get this party about. I just about that. Yeah.
you walk in, not literally and not with arrogance, but you walk in with, relax, i'm here. Yeah, this is going to be really good. I get how hard this is very, and then you do your little scene.
And then at the end of bit, without literally saying IT, without being arrogant, you go. thanks. I was a lot of fun, but I have something else I have to go to anywhere. Good lot see later, so that the whole attitude has no desperate .
rence x yeah.
I would always say good luck with .
this as I that guess .
what .
does he mean?
Of course he said that what is you said? Hi guys, good luck with this. That's really, did I ever tell you?
Pends up? yeah.
Tell me. J will tell me, stop me if I said this on the show before. But I once went to a whiles x top. I went to, went to, I had an addition for to play like a dental assistant. So I needed a White lab.
Coke says, like, i've guess, the part I was for commercial and at night I was doing sketched comedy in the theater and that we would kind of rent out at night, but during the day was a massive of acting class, right? And with, like two hundred people in the class. And so is like, oh, on the way to the audition, i'll just run and get my prop, my little White jacket, to go to.
The commercial addition at the thear had no idea was being used during the day I walk in and I opened the door in front two hundred people, and I guys teaching the class, and I was like, oh my god. Oh my G I was so bad. So like, i'm so sorry.
I do a show here at night. and. Was like, it's already too long of a story. He's like, what do you need? And I was like, I just have to get he's like, we'll be quick about IT, you know, and go get your thing whatever you need.
I'm like, so I go in the back and i'm rustling through and i'm making all this noise and is like, can you please be quiet? I'm teaching a class, I am so sorry and I keep going and i'm making more noise, more and noise and he goes, are you for real? I go one of you like, i'm not here and I got my, I got my stuff when I ran out, they all fucked .
and hated me.
Hey ted, what you were in new york and you're doing all these dies and stuff. I imagine you're doing something during the day we waiting tables in a classic way.
No, I .
always was .
going.
On.
I don't have that. That's what sorry.
you what?
Yeah, I am, I am such little toast. Anyway, I wit, I always had enough back then you could work a day on a commercial and make a nice whatever to pay your rent. But then the next day you could go collect unemployment. So between working little, tiny things, I never actually you've .
had talking and believe what, you liberal actors sucking up our system and classic, know what, you liberal your readers. No, it's just give me a second year because I want to tee off.
And no.
no, no, no, there's no way you went .
to stanford with no plan. what? What are you going to study at?
Stand h, no, I am the guy sitting in the back of the pickup looking, you know, behind where the pickup is going going. Wow, well, look at that go. I never turned around and focused and said, I want until .
I made .
and then are shortly .
before I met that's why you I will say .
that's what you're so chill. You have a really great vibe. I will .
everybody .
commercial.
Hey, list.
I'm a guy in the sky, easy guys.
I don't get me go. I don't even know.
I just see those out all the time. My friend, I was just like, we're a guy with .
family by way.
By the way, I just say this. I mentioned p jaws before. Jb, you played golf, a galley before over the years was great. Peals the grey shine, you know, very well. yeah. I just reminded me that any time he would get on the Green and you know, sometimes some guys go, hey, you know, because your bowl is on the Green, you're dancing and he would for years, say your ted dancing for years you would say when your blog out on the Green, you're ted dancing one of my best friends of all time, because I think I, you .
have this crazy .
ability I know off, taught my head all of all of the hit shows that you've been on.
And so you have this crazy ability to already you just fucked.
And no, no, I I was becker. Remember becker? I remember well, good place.
You did. Remember creep show. Remember csi? You were on csi. Damages, damages like you you've done so many like hit shows, it's unbelieved. By the way, I did audition for ink, which was a short lived sita. I did not get part.
Yeah, well, good for you.
I heard the starting care for you.
But how do you do you? Is there processed by which you have like a new system, a filtering system, for how to pick the right project?
Because you seem to always do that. How the trick is to spend all your money so to go to work? Yeah, no, you know you, oh, come on. I am here talking to you because of less than glen Charles and Jimmy. That is literally why i'm a hit.
But but then you pick hit.
massive hit shows. Well, people think, well, the good riders tend to come your way because of chairs. I mean, litter.
I'm not playing humble pie. I'm here because of chairs. IT were remarkable. I was talking to somebody. He was going, we need we need to win the jackpot and I was like, yeah, to tell the truth, I did win the japon yeah yeah by sam alone on shares for eleven years is certainly jack.
But also, you know, your guys were talking about earlier. You know what your vibes is? IT is infectious. IT does come through.
You do have an ability to put your thing into whatever character you're playing, even if it's, you know a crappy character which you play really well as as well there is there is a ted dance and humanity that you're able to communicate to the audience. And and it's just it's great to be with. And i'll bet it's great onset too. I'll bet that you know you in that leadership position create this you know environment where everybody you know kind of goes, oh, well, maybe I should bring that part of me too and all of those things sort of and add up and IT becomes this really enjoyable thing to to be a part of as a viewer and all, you know, you're being very humble. But that's i'm sure that's a lot of the key your success to well why every show works when you are part .
of IT for sure yeah yeah but I mean, I I want to humble pie but you you all know that it's the writing I mean of yeah you can be really good but .
but an all can fuck up good.
right? Yes, that's or not. You don't want to be around them.
I do love going to work. I do love actors. I do love writer.
I do love the whole process. I am as studied as I was. I love going to studio gates and crossing toward every passing. So good .
that crew too. I mean, think about all those camera man and dolly grip, you know, to follow Jimmy around too and Jimmy keep. I mean, it's just a family and also.
it's also wonderful to be part of this tribe of funny. Yeah, you know, I am not, I am not. You guys are really quick and really funny. You really, truly are. If I have funny material, I will indeed be funny.
But I don't I don't have that thing that you guys have, but I am part of the tribe of funny and I makes me so happy you know, I got to shake hands and hug, melt Brooks, how fucking cool is that? Ah yeah you know I worked with mary Taylor Moore. Like you.
I hate to break into you men. You're on the fuck and mount rushmore okay, so like I got a last for you and there's no and maybe it's because of Jimmy and the child's brothers, but they they wanted you for the same reason that you describe before. They wanted to be a good and you were you were so fucking great, man.
And I wonder, I wonder if you when you come out of something like cheers, I can't imagine because I can when you have something that has such there's such great chemistry and IT really works and the writing is really good and the performers are really good, and you have a short hand, and you know, when you really died in, that is so fucking fun. And i've had a few those moments, and one of them was really when I was the most that felt like I was in a work environment in that way, was working with that guy right there with jb, when we did arrest development. There were a few much in there in my life when I was like, fuck and fuck.
We are dialed right now. This feels cool, right? And it's and it's heart, but you guys did that at the level for years. What's that like when you go from that? And and what what's the morning after like is IT like when you you and i'm going in doing amazing things after but I mean, the morning after a show, like you.
what was that? My tech. And you know, I think I have a little bit of that. I don't know my mother's spiritual, religious, whatever, you know, pride go with before a fall. And you know, all of that IT does lack of false humility. You know here's how I handle cheers passing I fucked up my life so publicly and so that the actual passing of chairs was um oh it's over you know was that kind of um so I don't really know I I was more focused on trying to know be Better ted um and that was preoccupy me more than the end of sure what sounds like your priorities were in cheat yeah and .
I really worked very hard on myself .
and I don't think mary would have even been walking down the same hallway as me if I hadn't you I don't think we would have been .
seen me yeah, that's but but that's life. I mean, we all all handle things differently. Look, I I can admit there have been lots of situations in my own life where I haven't handled the best way. That doesn't mean that in the moment. But over time, where i've kind of acted out in certain ways that we're not the best representation of me or the best version of me and and i've and i've you felt a lot of shame about that and i've been beat myself up about IT and stuff. And at the end of the day, it's just .
just that life we're all kind of dealing with one.
And if your intention is to wake up, then all these little, you know, wounds or whatever can be, you know, god said in a way.
it's IT. But then I would imagine that IT that IT was because I me as well as, you know, somehow IT sounds like really chAllenging things in personal life kind of were at the same time as really good things or important things in the professional life and and how those can sometimes help one another or fight one another. And so when then when the show ended, you are going navigating a chAllenging time for yourself.
Question mark. And then what was then that probably was somewhat scary for you to no longer have this this cocoon of the show and the family and routine. You ve got sort of a new version of yourself coming online, internally and externally. What was the was there a gap for the next kind of hamitic poll, if you will, buy with a job that that sort of brought you back up again and and matched the growth you were doing personally with with the success professional?
Well, you know, IT came once again. I think I was just I was really excited to discover who I am you know and stopping a liar and and being emotionally as you you know, this is ongoing process, obviously, but has been emotionally much sure for the first time in my life, are trying to be, yeah, I was fascinated. I had an amazing mentor.
K, so that truly was what was preoccupying me. But then right away, I got a Sherry. Dancing is actually responsible for mary.
I been together was a terrible movie, but we were both cast in IT, and, you know, we both came to each other, and he had just broken up from a four year relationship. And who was saying to friends, I know I look like I should be good at relationship, but I don't. I can not.
Obviously, i'm not that person. I have two beautiful kids. I'll leave IT at that. I was going, well, truly, you can fuck up any relationship and it's u ted is doing IT.
So maybe you need to just not been a relationship and we met and we became friends having declared to each other that same kind of feeling that we both had have been kind of flaps at relationship and just fell head over. I we fell head over heal. I'll speak for myself in love and and have been inseparable that it's been .
one of the more successful hollywood relationships or and how long been twenty .
nine married, thirty one together I am, go way.
That's amazing.
Yeah, wow. Yeah, yeah.
I can't believe how much money I lost on that. I didn't think sorry. And I hate, I hate a meeting IT. no.
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yeah. That's why my life really works truly.
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right back, all right.
back to the show.
ted. You know what so far is we often ask people in the common I, we're like, what you've done this and what would you want to do? You, I can done every done at all, have done every general.
You've done broadway, you've ve done. Comedy, you've done. drama? You've done. Film, you've done like you've done. So I don't even know where to go with that.
like which one I want to keep. I want to keep trying to experience what IT is to be funny, or explore the human frailty or whatever you want to call IT doesn't IT can be drama as longs that has whit, you know, and h humor somewhere in there. But I want to know what that's like at every age.
I wanted keep acting. And seventy seven and a few months, it's a different. It's a different how trying to figure how to be funny. Yes.
you look amazing.
Hey, you know what? We've been on this fucking and pipe cast for, like almost an hour, and that's the first time anyone to say how good I look.
You are working great. You look, you look great and you are great. And what is IT that you watch? Do you watch a lot of stuff? Do you devour other material to like one of the things that.
yeah I think you're watch right now, this making you .
really laugh yeah hey, all all three of you may have made me ugh so much over the and do different yeah no.
But said IT seems today.
are you kidding me?
You should to see me while you all were bantering. I was doing speaks.
They told me you seem you so you so aware of sort of of the of bullshit and you you so you seem so good about being not full of bullshit and being real, being honest with yourself IT seems like you really, at least you really make me laugh when you play these characters that um they act like they are smarter than they actually are.
They damage to me was one of the funny things I got to do epma.
Yeah it's just exactly it's it's sort of behaving like you're more confident than you actually are because you are aware of how fragile confidence and intelligence really is because you because you're honest with yourself about that. Um is that is that kind of accurate like you like playing those characters that are that kind of have this kind of thin venir that you you enjoy showing .
the audience kind of crack? I love, I love the silliness of men. I love being a silly man.
And yeah, I love that I would like to be, you know, IT can be disguised, that can be. But now we're silly. We're silly creature.
I love that. Yeah, we're so flood.
yeah. And I do love human that comes out of sadness. I do love that. It's so much I can suffering. And if you can find a way to laugh while acknowledging the sadnesses of life that time, so have you to do that.
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IT said. I was looking through your earlier credits, and I see that you didn't an episode of B, J in the .
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alone and let about a baseball.
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I anything, I pretty much anything works so .
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Yeah, you know, never forgot about you. Did those three men and a baby member, what is that? That those were huge hits.
right? I mean, one was the other one. The first one was like gangbusters, I know. Yeah, huge, huge amount, millions.
And then the second one, which was pretty well done in remember having lunch with jeff c cats and merging ying because he was about to come out three men and a little lady. And we're going to do great. We are keeping our eye on the other show, kind of small show coming out cold home alone. But I think we'll .
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the same weekend. Yes.
my glue is out of the, oh, ty or no.
oh, my god. But I mean, those were what was the biggest, what was the the hardest part of on those movies? Because you got you're working with the baby. Was IT working with the .
baby or or waiting for time? I like the glue on this.
I love the guy. Love he's one of .
the true gentleman. And our business .
read thing I .
made joke, great, if you I want. He is incredible. Make the pi for me was the fuck and greatest.
yes, but was I lost the job do to due to magna P. I, the first year of magnetic, I played a murderer, smug husband, who's getting the shit beat out of him on a boat by tom clic and IT was the first time I realized I had a big ball spot on the back of my head, because there is an overhead shot of, you know, this incredible hok of a man, handsome guy, beating the shit out of this White murderess husband with the ball spot.
And I swear, I got, this is sure I hate, you know, please, Steve, a Steven spielberg lessons s here. So i'm sure a lot. But my version, and I hope it's true, was he was talking to me about polter guise.
Then he happened to, within a week or two, see the macon P. I episode. And I heard he was no longer interested well.
but any higher cacti, elson is no switch. You know, I mean.
got me here. Yes, you're right. You're right. He was stunning. He was stunning. Yeah, yeah. So maybe may be i'm wrong, maybe just didn't like my work that could well be.
And I just like the new scotches .
is what no satch .
like turn people. You look at this, guys know that.
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We love having. Where was the last? Do you mean the last audition you have?
And I had to .
have been preachers.
I was probably for a feature, I think I was probably IT was a really funny movie, the first ten minister in work. And then I just took off. I think IT was ended up coming out and called the amateur s IT was called the moguls for a while.
I was cheap bridges in the small town, and he decides the only way to put the town on the map is for them to do the whole town to participate in an amateur porn. And that was going to put this on private and see IT. It's really kind of wonderful. But I addition for that.
I feel like the last addition. I have a hot soccer proxy home brother's film I member.
I bet IT .
wasn't the last one I did, but I was the when I really remember that, boy.
I want to that bad. I don't think auditions are bad though, because don't you want to make sure you're nothing?
You get an offer. And then the first time anyone sees your planned for the character is rape before you shoot IT while you're rehearsing the scene and you take a big swing and they go, you can hear the silence and there's no time to request you or give you a note to put you on a different track. It's tough. Ah yeah .
shan last addition.
you have some J J. Hoy years and years and years ago I can't member this.
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comment in yourself. No, that was at an offer. I mean, I think that was I mean.
he was he was through a bush.
was through a bush that he was just .
just a budget cash in a low voice.
And they hand the paper through the bush, through the bushes.
You got an answer come out. I know, I know, I know. I'm just to think that was I think .
about about a rest development .
that that I I did him as graves with tony hail in in you the last one we are in the room the other uni crushed chasing .
you addition for that too, that I just kind of assumed .
there was years. No, no, no. I auditioned hard for that one is very surprise. I got in addition for that. But the only reason matter what's read me for this because you remembered me from auditioning for some pilot like a few years earlier .
that I didn't get but .
he remembers liking me for was in the hockey one that perhaps i'm not sure .
but um boy that that that you'll save my life yeah you all have made me I got to say this don't cut IT have made me laughs .
so hard not only .
today but in everything .
you've done over the year .
such a joy is and a lot this .
hour too .
they are so so much thanks for I don't throw this too lately. You know, come your way, you 跟 你说。 的, i'm going to say, i'm going to say euro fucked in national hero.
Yeah, you really are. You are fucking, you really are. You are a treasure. And I just kind of think any time more highly of you, I just think that you're a great guy and you're so great what you do for so long and keep that and glad you doing show show with the great, my sure, who we are and unbelievable talent in his own right. And just thanks for doing this man is what a threal be to sit here with you in in to you and honestly .
just an absolute real for me so podcast cool and yeah by .
the way .
yeah you and what you and what you chemistry yeah yeah because .
he's so the straight guy and he's just all over the map is he's such a love him I love so much quickly. E my favor. What is during cheers? You know, if you were fifteen minutes late, IT was okay.
If you a half hour light, hey, where you know, by forty five minutes people get posed and was about forty five minutes. Let know what somebody comes running in. And H, I forgot to tell you, woody is in berlin.
The wall is coming down and he didn't want to miss IT. Oh my god. No show. Yes.
good for .
he was like that. I just IT must have been ted .
to watch the evolution of water harson from getting the part and starting out to, at the end of the series, to what he had become, you know, as as a human being and as an activist.
and is everything as a .
movie star a wonderful?
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And the more popular he gets a nominated, my little revenge to watch this film on my cell phone. Yes, you know, 这是 big movies, mell phone.
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We love you. Love you. Enjoy the rest of your trip over there. Thank you. You me .
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hour wanders for me. Thank you so much.
Thank you. He just lifted .
me up .
this just like the I love that guys vibe. I mean.
something so easy, breezy, easy, like my money.
I'd love to work, I don't think. And I very work together. And that's a work.
So a lot about you well.
but I mean.
no, you not sure is well, but I guess .
what i'm saying is that we've had so many years in television, I bet you we've black been part of the same sort of like a first yeah we d like charity. You telephone or whatever the first.
I do think it's funny. I do think it's A A very funny thing in this town where I want to who IT is, but I rendered A A person that is known in the world. And SHE said.
or female because .
I guess IT female and he said, i've got IT I said, I hi I said, what's going actually have you ever been to a house and if like, if I if anybody from chicago from you know who's been inside of your house but .
I don't know. I disagree that i've said a million times to people coming over all, although not much of a omid, but you know I will be surprised. I'll say like have you not been over before? You know because if i've been friends with somebody for a long time, you forget whether you know you're going like over your house or my house, you just like assume.
anyway, teddy today is great.
Teddy is a great. Teddy is great. Well, nice guest.
He so great. And yeah and I ted and what he have their podcast, which he was living to, that I did the first episode of, by the way, now i'm .
taking.
The doing is also on serious like .
us yes serious under .
the nice beautiful roof of serious is exam.
So check in out um if everybody knows your name, which is I guess an .
illusion to to to something the song the song.
the cheese song song, the study right I want to go.
Nobody knows my name after anyway .
you know I was looking at .
a lot of I was. Looking a lot. So even if we have had done a show in a couple weeks ahead.
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we can see you comes from across the street.
can see the round up. Yeah, I can see, you know, you know, you know, I take a penal D K. All the time, and I know they do that .
like that.
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was on nights of the south.
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tell me more, that's the one that was what? What still rolling? You want to buy the one called when you got to that bad? You D T, I know .
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What is happening? We need to send somebody or the house to do like a fucking and wellness. What is happening that's .
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