"Howard Stern"
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Good evening. And ladies and gentlemen, money is mark video and on behalf of syria.

sex and I want to thank you so much. We're coming out to Stephen, talk out for a very special, very intimate episode of smartness.

We go, we go, we go.

that's.

You guys, hi, welcome.

Thank you for being .

here .

with you guys aren't really fans your friends of arms. So that's very nice of you to show.

Thank you.

Body drive all the way out here to a long island.

Nothing really nice.

Hey, nothing first .

hearing be like right now entertain.

We're very excited to be doing like so were gonna four life shows year every year know we going to do the open the less goat.

but that's fine.

We do the regular sort of podcast on on on the computer thing, right? What you watch IT, you're listen to IT on whatever is and then we're going to do four lives. So this is our first one.

Very good. On top of that, we've got our White whale like this is any people would asked me like, who have you not interview that you want to? How is strong because he doesn't do this and he's the man, yes, man like .

we feel very, very blessed that he and will give them the second yeah, I don't .

have a look at the cards, I know.

but I feel like fanning, who's a little .

good decode of fanning when he was a little girl, SHE was really overprepared in the best way I did cat the hat.

They're gone when we got some to trim already. Yes.

the audience is divided by that story, fucked in what the code fanning.

She's really, she's really smart and and prepared. I love that.

But every knew everything here knows who I guess, going to be. So there not a lot of surprises. So there is one surprise that we do have, uh, today just to kind of get the everybody warmed up, to get us warmed up a little bit yeah something shine, you don't know. Yeah does not your dad and still can't find them. It's so fun because you left.

Top b you know, he came. He never thought he came. He came to the last show of goodnight Oscar in chicago.

Yeah, you that kind to know of .

one way and keep that true story. Did he came the lash?

I don't know. Go back stage. No, no.

IT was wild to go. That you have notes?

Yes, yes. He mailed them to me.

That is pretty weird.

Did you see him?

I didn't. My sister? Yes, that's right. He emailed my art side. He posted on facebook that he went to the lasso, and that's all he wrote and my sister to bait him like, don't you want to say something about your son that haven't seen in seventy five years?

He said, you look, you look great .

and he just wrote back, ask for advice like I remembered him that was IT. That is not wow, anyway.

how long have you not seen him? Forty years and he's in the theory with you. You just started something he didn't stick around and say what where to treat and .

then wait and then and then check this out. Two gay guys came up to Scotty and the onions because Scotty was there and they got you scot whole.

Okay.

they came up to sky and they said, they said, H, I just wanted let you know we live next door to sean's dad and understand they don't see I, I.

Was out a shot at your mom. Those of you don't know, shan's mom famously .

has one fake. I yes, hap hap hap.

Because hilariously.

SHE died.

So joy should be an x murdered, right?

I said that how we love him. We all have.

we all have skeleton ahead.

I'd parents.

parents but so we do everyone surprised that try to spring is out of the hole of shows up bringing so vast guy come here tonight just to do a little something before we get going yeah an any winner um he's a finalist on americans. Got talent. He's been on the Jimmy fallon program amongst st.

Others was called the program called the Jimmy family program. That's what the producers tell me. I don't know there.

Jimmy. Thank you, Jimmy. Please don't stand up now. Please don't send. Please sit down.

Thank you to sit down.

Thank you to sit down love IT we have .

little control jen we get IT you are nbc ah and your own way for us by the Jimmy .

on oceans as you were great in jurassic world, I thought that was .

great down again.

again, down. But he is he's done so many things. No, she's not here and he didn't make IT.

She's working on her stuff. He's one of the world's most sought after mentalist. He's worth to clients regin from a celebrities had to state fortune five hundred companies. Guys, please welcome the amazing OS perlman.

Some question.

what I did not the .

code of fanning.

unfortunately.

I know. Surprise waiting dad, i'm sorry.

Can I tell you something I think is amazing?

Doesn't show, is no idea. This is will you have .

my phone number, right? And my email address don't like clip things.

He sort .

of include me into markers, a muse bush today, right?

This is so cool.

like good Jason. Supposedly I read minds, but if I may know how people think, yeah, right. And you know what they're thinking at the same time.

This is, here's will silvery. Where are my smartness fans in the room? Come on where, well, notoriously knows dates, years behind. You've tell june two thousand and six. You know, always where Jason can .

remember for .

breakfast and right.

john will be a red winner that might have been.

Here's what I want you to do on put in tasks, put in tasks out there. You're going back in time thinking of somebody that these guys would not know, somebody from your past. They, not you, Jason, go back in time. Think of the first girl you ever had a big crush on. Think to how old you were at the time I got IT and .

tell them because if i'm .

listened this on my podcast right now, i'm saying this is set up, this is fake before today. And me asking you to think of her has had been days, months or years since this person popped in your mind years.

years yeah and even not .

going to be to show count the number of letters in her first name. Just yourself. No, don't use your fingers. J, I can see your fingers.

Okay, you're yelling at me. I'm fuck .

nervous that .

you're going to guess IT and i'm going to be all breaks out. This is, this is coming out at your time. Howard.

five letter was a five letters. Yeah, I watch drives.

okay?

He has not thought of this person in years. This is not set up cause if IT was, it'd be going Better. Tell us all for everybody listening.

I have written down every in the room, don't say the name. And if you can see what I rode down, clear day ever in the room, say, yeah, closure. As for me, jasie closure.

But if you get this, like i'm you're gonna in my life, the rest of my life.

that's that is why I never going .

to let you go like .

a splinter that doesn't leave.

Well, I clearly you let her go. But ahead you .

having thought of an years I wrote IT down, ever been in the room machine at how old you at the time? Jason teen fourteen. And tell us what was the song lady's name.

a polar .

I down polar .

fourteen. For those who can't see, Jason's face is in shocks yeah .

like like why aren't you a trillionaire on water street?

My job wasting this .

is still talk.

Trust me on monitise. Well, well, you're back in time. Yes, you're thinking a sun, but Jason on shook up, by the way, I wish they could see his face and not just hear .

the text is not the most surprised face gets anyway, know what do you think your face is doing right now? smiling.

It's very good job. How about this, right?

You read his mind. You were so confident with Jason and then you had no idea is there anyway in the world world that shaw knows who popped in your head when I asked you to think of somebody from your past.

No, okay.

take a pad of paper. You, sean, here's the game plan. I need you to act.

Good luck. Go on.

Look at my hands. yeah.

And can you tell every listening in i'm in a pretending the moment I have a Crystal ball in my hand, I actually have anything in my hands, zero, everyone, the audience, there are any of my hands. No shaan will swear up and down that he saw a Crystal ball appear in my hands and in IT the name of your friend as a kid, or whoever this person is. Have you ran down a name I have? Can anybody see IT right now other than you?

I don't think so.

Sean, look into wheel .

soul and .

tell him, what name did you see in that Crystal ball, tom? What before walking in here, we spoke in a word, our lifesaving. Never tell me who's you thinking of.

say.

IT Scott.

you fuckyou would put around show the audience.

I can't hear you .

in this room. I received the same show.

How is that possible?

How is that possible? All the shit that .

is unbelieved guys, huge and huge pain.

incredible.

So guys, how do you introduce the man who needs no introduction? Because he's one of the most famous people in the plan of plays on the poster outside the king of all media, the interviewer of all interviewers, the winner of best hair in amErica four years in a row. He's a great artist, a great painter.

more sincere. yeah. No.

lost my thing. And he is incredible. He's the most amazing person.

And now his home for twenty years has been serious x and which is now s which makes us roommates. It's the most incredible icon of all time. Howard stern every yes.

Oh, man, you know, in my years of radio, yes, nothing works Better on radio than magic. Yeah, sure. yeah. You guys around to something.

and I told you are not.

I don't want to come off like an expert fifty years. You've also made .

Howard the second guests.

Remember once the .

last time you weren't .

the guess I know and I remember having amazing question on and the audience the audience was amazed as I described, everything that was going on in the room ah the play by play was unbelievable. Yeah yes, he made a table left and I go, if you were here now you see a table left off and people like, no wonder this is such a great radio OK. Um first of all, welcome to syria. X, i'm a huge fan of the company, so welcome. Yeah ah you know I don't even know how long i've been with .

syria sex since you started.

When I started, we had two hundred thousand subscribers yeah and I remember a walking around and I don't even know where I was somewhere in manhattan handing out radios for free hoping that someone would take one yeah. And IT was a horror ing experience leaving to russia .

radio in coming to series decision. Talk about IT yeah.

IT was a very strange time in my career. I was on regular radio ah and I somehow convinced them that I would be OK if I talked about the fact that I was leaving regular radio and going to satellite radio and then they told me OK they said, don't mention serious radio, just call IT something else what we call IT and what you did for IT though.

because we had all sort of heard the satellite radio was coming and I was a little circumspect and so .

which one are you your .

James and James Jason?

That was like.

I don't know if I was that I have got to get a different for when you went to satellite was like, oh, it's OK now i'm right was like one finch went to flix was like, oh.

you do forget because things move rather rapidly. But IT was a very strange time, because there was an effort by regular radio to say what a failure I would be, right? And they were putting out that anyone who went to satellite radio, your career would be over.

You would disappear forever and and then you know so there was a big campaign to um you know discredited sample light radio yeah but I knew deep in my heart that a satellite radio would be successful and now I look around everybodys got a fucking microphone in their house right? Everybody's on the radio. You three you want to hear the most aggravating thing. How do love you guys but yeah couple things a Jason and I the only person I didn't know was shown right is .

nice to meet you.

nice to meet you. And I do wanted ask you about your classical piano.

I most impressed .

with your classical.

You guys. I'll get some time after the interview.

No but here's the thing I wanted tell you that I know yeah and I tell you other ah yeah .

so Jason was .

over my house and I have mad respect for a lot of problem, a lot of fucking a and he's still as a bush and he's got a lot of problem and we could go on all day. But tina, i'm talking to James and feeling very good about my own career and everything interesting goes, you know, man craze. We like started this thing out of our basement look, a radio show and i'm like, here we go ah yes, cool and he goes so yeah we stand a thing and like we just had three of us sitting around and we talk and when you just crack each other up and everything, I don't know it's going to happen with the man, but through teleme like the biggest .

thing .

and I didn't say that in no way yeah so so I go this is great again. I spent my life, yes, like like begging people to put me on the radio IT was verified if you even were allowed on how to work on your voice, this and that you had work on the content. Make sure you get people.

It's clowning around. Yeah, yeah. So listen, it's over what you have.

You hide your bitterness .

really well.

You talk about perfect your craft. So how did you first meet the backpack?

Oh, that's an excelling question.

I want to know because you did you feel like the craziest group of people available and put them together?

How did that come together? The one listen when I was on the radio, yeah. And IT IT was brutal.

In order to get an audience and take maintain an audience every fifteen minutes, they take the ratings. And radio IT isn't like this, like where you go. You know, we have a lot of people listening, could be three people listening this.

Nobody knows, nobody cares. But you're on the radio in every fifty minutes, they take ratings. And what are you gonna to hold people's attend? But you found all these people like this, like kind of, but look, I found people that I was interested in, right?

I'll never forget the day I was on the radio and I took a little bathroom break and I walked by my Green room, the light that went up. I'm looking at the room, and there is beetle juice. Beetle juice, yeah, you know, my ever hear my show?

IT was well in high school. I'd listened to IT a lot.

There was a guy named beetle juice who is very popular even to this day on the internet. The same right, right. So that you know that this guy is a star. He's gonna .

fantastic tic. A S guys going .

to be .

a time. And sure enough, he was. No, I mean, I was always looking .

for interesting people. I have a question about that early, early on. Where did you get the balls to not give a shit about the consequences of what you were saying and what you were doing on air?

Where did you get that from? Because do you think you would have that now if you start your clear now with the same personality? Since we live in cancel culture.

I believe I was technically insane.

I mean.

I don't I himself sabotage like you had like this know that. So here's the truth. In my family, words meant nothing. My mother would say, actions only mean anything. And I I guess I took her literally yeah.

However, what would do you consider would be the sort of the turning point in your career where you kind of broke through because, again, you started, you had all these you sort, you keep into this kind of thing with odd characters on your show. Was the training where you felt you broke through to a bigger audio?

I had a miserable failure in detroit. I got higher to be the morning man at W W W W. And which which are the worst call letters for a radio station? I get on 那个 W W W W detra。 喂喂， i don't know what i'm doing.

So I, I, I was hired to be the morning man. I had had some success and hard for IT. Not a huge success, but success.

yeah. And I got hired and detroit ed. And there was a radio consult and who said to me, do not go to detroit.

There are four rock stations, and out of the four, the one that they want to hire you at dead last, nobody, even I would go to parties and people say, what do you do for living? I say, the morning guy. And before they go, oh, that station, still on the year nobody listened to.

was a short version of W.

W, W for detroit, w for the war station. So yeah, I went on the radio and detroit IT was a tremendous failure. And I said, what am I doing wrong? Ah and I SAT with IT and I thought i've got to really just, I guessed lose all in ambition and admitting everything and just see where that goes and when I went to washing dc.

IT was like he was not going great and he was like.

might as well throw all against all. But I have to give the credit to also Robin covers. I met harriet and SHE.

The chemistry was great and a program director put us together. And I went on the air with her and I started to become very confessional and people responded. We shot up to number one in a record amount of .

time because was really honest.

And so that was a moment when you started getting really real about your own life that started to change IT. yes. And did you did you notice being real about your life? Because so much know anybody y's listen the show know is that you talk about what's going on in your life, what you did on the weekend, you new haircut, new .

clothes, say I talk about I was at least three .

times a in time no, sorry.

not sure is that.

I mean.

we're looking into IT.

but the point is we got to find out .

the point is, is you talked .

about .

the you talked about so much about your personal life was the point we're talking about. Your personality hurt your relationship, but I mean, necessarily even romantic. I mean, hurt relationships because people were nervous about talking to you at a party or, well, well.

IT hurt everything. I hurt my, but I didn't care. All I cared about was my job, right? Keeping that job and getting audience and ratings. And that is a good. That is a .

disaster. Sonali were .

very, I don't want to get all heavy about this because he knows the show is not heavy. No, no, I I don't know what to .

make you cry.

You ready? OK.

well.

i'll do that. I what what IT was is that I was very insecure about my career. I wanted this thing to take off in the worst way. And so I I even had a policy about, I stayed my home after I did my shoe. I never went out.

I wasn't sane, uh, so I didn't want to meet anyone in show business because I didn't if people, because I was talking on the year about a lot of people and I didn't want. So I just stay in my house. I planned the radio show, did IT and went home and a and and the stuff I was doing was so outraged and so entertaining to the audience that IT blew up. I mean, in new york, we had to twenty five million listeners and one out of every four cars on the longer exposure. He was listening .

to me was pretty, but .

don't apply.

I don't live. The Cooper is so good that I looked like .

that I won't have to go on the radio and station.

And we will be right back. And now back to the show.

How is that .

shifted though? Because and he was about, i'm going to say, almost ten years ago may be a little bit more um where you started hanging out with a lot of people and your life changed. You heart up, and you became kind of one of the people that used to talk in a certain way, right? Not one of the people, but you became friends with a lot of people love celebrities your life. You became friends with .

people like Jason statement from TV and film and we said way i'm going to get .

that .

it's our dream too.

Yes, but I shifted like I remember back and that, I mean, years ago, remember, used to call a chav, chases out all the time the drive of crazy. I told I was insane, I know. And but then IT changes because you have to meet those people right out .

in the world. But TV ended up coming to my wedding, which is even more important, and got up, yes, and get up to make up of a beautiful speech to myself and my bride. And then and then stayed to your body instead I had given him, wow, IT was really weird. I love that. But your audience .

is bigger today than it's ever been. And you're not doing all of those sort of shocking things you're doing. You're doing measured, deep conversations, long form interviews with very sophisticated people, and like so well.

because I think any good performer you guys are, are, are great performance. And you know this, you must evolve the show. The show, you know, I used to say this, not russia inboard forget the politics. You know, he had a very big following, but IT was the same thing every day. You could predict what he was going to say.

People like that because it's like comfort .

and what comfort to them. But for me, as A A performer, I felt I want to show to be funny. I also want to be able to interview people. I want you to be broader. And I made a conscious decision to shift the show and change IT around.

And to me, IT was way more exciting because the common thought was, well, how are to go to satellite? And now the shows can be so fucking filthy and everyone's going to be out of their mind and it's going to end. The stripper is .

not going to be able to fuck on the air.

And did did you miss conrade constraint by having the constraints of I said, well then it's no longer funny. You regulator was funny. The government was trying to shut me down.

That was drawn fun. That's tension. But then I got to satellite. The tension wasn't there.

So what do you do now that you have the ultimate freedom? right? And and I decided to shift the show, and I ultimately more interested in the show.

Now I would say that IT in a compliment to you that IT was less deliberate or contrived or strategic for youtube. I'll let's switch IT up now and give the audience something not to expect. I think it's and I haven't known you for you know thousand years, but IT does seem pretty obvious that you have naturally just evolved into a more curious serious not that is a majority person who's interested in different kinds of questions and .

with different kinds of people. And IT IT would be really creepy to be my age, and still doing a show. The way I did IT when I was thirty was thirty.

Doing IT was a ratings play. You were being sincere and genuine.

I thought I was funny. yeah. And I always had this idea that we could be really funny on the radio, that radio didn't have to be a basterds zed media.

Now it's not rating, point out and your hands down the best interviewer in all of media.

I think with. Taking the time this what i'm doing yeah doesn't matter what is comics .

or athletes or musicians or actors or whatever is you you you question them for us as a bust and it's a laments one of you and it's it's very curious and you're listening. You don't have a bunch of fucking and cards with questions on your engaging and conversation. And IT was a true inspiration .

for us really .

holding up all cards. I have pages of them .

because I don't know that .

I rote all stuff .

down and I start in my research of you because I am a big fan. I found all these things that we actually do haven't come and growing up issues with our dad. You don't like italy, which you just when Jimmy kim L, I didn't want to go either, were .

bullying .

bullies. Like as a kid, I was bullet to, and not for being jewish.

but for being gay is. And so I add, I was bullied for being gay and I was, I got bullied for everything.

Well, I am not going. We're sorry to see you leave.

You see.

very good. But the thing I thought was fascinating. My mom had a glass. Your dad had a glass side. And ither one of us, neither one of us was allowed to talk about IT. I.

can you wait one second? Is.

no, she's dead. okay?

My father died two years.

I said.

but I wanted ask you question, I want this is what would you do to get these other two guys i'm asking you because you had a mother with the guy. Ah, so my father had this side. I could go into that .

for three hours, fucking and heavy. It's so great. But it's it's also funny.

But when he died, I was given a buy his stuff. I think what you mean, how well I told you shouldn't .

an audience?

So this, I open up the box. Yeah, course.

It's my father. My mom died. My sister passed IT around and we packaged IT.

Here's each one of us. We open all. We got something for my sisters.

my mom. And in the quest, here comes the question. yeah. So I I go to my wife. I said, I got this eye.

great. Best, best.

My beautiful bath. Where is SHE honey? Where is nice to meet you?

I've heard such great things.

So anyway, here's the thing. So I turned to my wife and I said to my wife, yeah, well, you know, I know. No, i'm I going, I open IT up and my father's, I was such a tabbas o subject. My father never talked to me about anything that's right and I went one time I ask my mother, does dad have a glass of and SHE said the lass, 妹 you to your father's story， don't ask me and i'm like, what I was like a kid, how old? Okay.

here's the day. How old were you? And when you still .

didn't know whether dads .

I was glass, they in talk to stay.

I stayed mostly open and also .

think .

that .

to my mother shade, I wasn't .

confirmation of the glass. I wanted to know what happened with my father, but I wasn't allowed to add. My father would blow up if everyone was afraid to get really angry through that.

I, you could yeah, but but here's my point. So what? So now I have the eye and I sit in my wife.

I need to find that I can just take my father is I throw in the garbage like there might be laws against that. I don't know. I don't know why .

when you want to save IT as a keep sake.

No, no, no, no. It's that where is a capital she's got.

She's got IT in .

a cat around. But at here for you guys, no, it's say so he says to me, throw IT in the ocean. I go going to my and my family. Dad never seen the ocean.

He loved the ocean.

So what did you do with the eyes? Met.

did you do? Well.

I got IT sitting in a box.

Yeah, first you do. You hold, was tossing in the king ocean.

You know.

my, my, my mom so saying, we .

weren't a lot to ask about IT I wish catholic ish don't talk you .

stuff at all down ish got tell .

of this episode and so and my mom.

there are a few difference between .

couple but not gays and you but so my mom, we weren't like, so so my whole life is like i'd be at the store and the cheko girl, the counter would be like staring at my mom's I am like, mom are staring at, you're right, just shut up right? So right. So then ten years old, twenty years old, thirty years old, thirty five years old finally, like mom, what happened to your eye would, and he still didn't want to talk about.

I found out after he died, had cancer in the eye. They took IT out two years old. And then as he growled, that the skips really grows in flying.

As he gets older, he gets my sister and I read the medical reports. They took skin from her vagina to reshape her eye as he grew older. And then my oldest brother goes, I knew when I got upset whether I went to fucker on the end.

good. sure. This show .

has to be .

cancel. Redick, that is very a terrible .

joke about that one long time ago, but i'm not going to repeat IT here.

But by the way, we're all time about being honest. That's an honest story. That's true story, and that's us making jokes about painful things. Yes.

did her complaint after that. He thought that I already looked like a cut, right? And what he said when I was say that when I .

was a little kid, I was five years old. There was A A guy on my blog, a kid on my black five year old kid said to me, came up to me that my parents told your father has a glass eye. I was so freak.

Doubt, yeah, we got into a fight. fight. I did.

Probably the only friday. Everyone, really, I beat him up. IT was crazy. And, and, and, but I could never ask my father was an approach able like that that's why was so much mystery you ever get the story um yes I did is curious story.

What happened was I was so curious about the eye and everything about my father because I didn't know and I would sneaked into his room and they would leave the house, which was infrequent. Nobody ever left my house and do you know so? No, I could figure out my father kept desire with this porno.

So the eyes my father had porn. O, you know, like he had some erotic books and things know my if you met my mother, she's exactly putting up my mother. My mother wants to me, um you know, I preferred to be celibate but your father, 你 you really that grows by fucking .

something in the eyes was books.

no movies.

no tapes. IT was books back then. And uh the books, the ooks were waiting, but the eye was staring at me. I wanted to read the erotic books, so I was all free that about IT the eye.

But then finally to go to sleep I don't know what went on, but in all seriousness, I finally talked to my mother about IT. SHE wouldn't tell me, but I broke her down ah and IT was a terrible accident when my father was Young. He was he put some film in a bottle and the bottle exploded.

He he lit IT and had exploded in eei when he was a little kid. And yeah so and my father had a fabulous attitude about design. The sense that I didn't see any evidence that he saw himself as handy capped thing so he .

just proud was that the thing he just didn't want to.

I think I think he was a big pain, you know, for him in his life, seriously, seriously big pain. And yeah, was a big .

would sleep. You know, her eyes was constantly open. So when SHE slept sheds like, no, like this. And I approached the bad and I didn't. I like, mom, oh, she's ebing oh, no, she's not sleeping or she's like, I didn't know whether, like, can I get to glass a water? Oh, your sleeping like.

IT IT was .

crazy. And then were you I .

know my sister has .

IT in a box.

Do you go? Is IT like a time?

Sure you get IT like, do you get IT like, if you wanted for the holidays.

you sure I could do IT SHE pressed around. We did one really quick because I said this on the show before, but we used to take my mom is to go bowling on thursday night, and we used to go upstair. We would use and White friends over, and we had chain on the door and we'd go upstairs and get her extra eyes shit too, and which in the box, and we'd get her and they knock on the door and not that tuck. And we would open IT just as much as the chain would go. We ck, go whose.

There, and I wouldn't have risk that in my house.

fun. That is fun, but dangerous.

You know, my dad tell me about italy.

and Jimmy came. Did you like ita? I know didn't to go.

I'll give you an exclusive IT was. And this is the most boring answer ever. IT was actually a bad question because I loved IT. I don't have anything to fish about.

Think you were going to love IT.

I don't like to travel. I'm perfectly happy sitting at home. And if I want to see italy algo on the internet looking picture where I, I, I can.

But now I went to paris wunce, and I was like the iphone tower and I thought, oh my, got IT ready to go home. Yes, that looks like the movies and .

the posters got IT looks the same. Yeah, we had a great time, somehow convinced you in bath, this is gona be, I had said, you know, my wife to the travel, and I and I wanted to, I wanted to be human being for me. I mean, I I can be in a marriage of my wife.

Want to travel? I can say, well, go ahead. What's so you get you go.

And we ended up having a very romantic time, honey. right? Romantic romance was in the air.

Romance happened and barely confirming that. Let's know. Yeah, for a woman, imagine, you know.

think about.

you know, you imagine me crawling on top of you influence. So I mean.

okay.

it's like a praying mantis attacking you. So I felt for the woman I did, I did, but she's a good sport to took like a chap.

And I felt horrible.

I fall hard. But honey wasn't so bad.

right? IT was .

over quick of the sex like brinton fly.

How would do you have any? Is there anyone interview you have that you are great. Is there anyone that you like?

Oh, many, many.

And well.

because there was an ice hole many time. But no, when I was on regular radio to russia radio, what everyone to call IT, I didn't have the faith that if I did an interview that my audience would hold, we had something like a ten share, number one in new york.

And I thought, well, if someone comes on the year and they're talking, I could hear the radio clicking off that the only thing that might be compelling is if, you know, I was doing my thing right, which means I was not trusting about the people that other people might have talent. So there were people, and i've written about this, the fabulous st most wonderful Robin Williams, for example, came on my shoe. Yeah and I just was ridiculously um um insulting and y because .

I was trying .

to be funny. Robin Williams is way funny than I am. Let him be funny right? But being the insecure child that I was and and somehow having some connection with the audience where I was intuitive and thinking, I could hear when they're turning off the radios, if somebody gave a long answer or IT wasn't moving fast enough, if the rythm wasn't right, I could hear the radios is clicking off. And so I really had no business having guess on.

Is finally you're really you're really honest about that in yourself assessment of of that time in your life now that you're older? And is that just a result of getting older? Or is this a result of doing .

a result of leaving terrestrial radio, going to satellite? It's suddenly done arming. I worked for a company now that has one hundred something channels as long as the person who's paying for subscription is happy with the product and if they're listening to me.

And now i'm doing a long form interview. And if it's not their cup tee, they can go to a different channel on our service. And that freed me, that liberated me because IT wasn't about me necessarily holding the audience. If you enjoy listening to Robin Williams, great, then we have you as a listener. But if you don't, there's a million other .

choices on what you also find that you are. You're no longer your your agenda is no longer to provide a show for your listener, but instead, perhaps you hope that the people remaining listening to you on that particular day happen to be as interested in the person you're talking to as you are in other words, you know ah and it's a more honest to sort you're not pushing you're not pressing .

your yes but you couldn't have done that if you guys started your radio let's say you started a career and radio back in the day this format would not have lasted IT would not be on the radio if IT doesn't hold an audience and and mass right Jimmy found sitting on an audience right when he does an interview he can do in our intern's got to sit that because he's dealing with televisions coming on and often on and off where in a unique position the period of time or in right now has allowed us to sit here and have a real conversation and we complain to a neither al audience and and so you know not to get too academic about IT radio.

The old format of radio is gone. And I recognize that when I came to satellite and I felt that was the innovation I could sit in to have a real conversation with someone like Robert Williams. And and I have regret the format helped me to above.

I have actually question for Jimmy, you know, seriously, seriously, no to that point.

But I I think i'm the .

introduce you great.

Yes, I guess I know. I guess I just haven't delivered the goods, jim. My, why did you take over? But this always happens. Always, always get up to a few. Good god.

IT has everything to do with what you just said. So which is Johnny son, and used to have long, long, long interviews, twenty minutes, half hour. And so Jimmy, I was, I was talking about you because you're one of the best at what you do.

Thank you. You have you ever had discussions about what? How are you saying about instead of the six, seven minutes you do?

All right. You have to. He's never gonna leave everytime.

I love you. I love I ve come. Can I leave this? You ever have .

the the discussion about changing your format to do kind of where where this feels like it's going, which is long form interviews. I supposed to think I, I, I wish that I do a longer interview woodbind with certain guest, but yeah, but I do wish that I can get into IT and talk for an our jealous when I can listen to when you hear .

a real conversation. Yeah.

I love IT because when I get going, it's great and even with with an audience say, like this is we're loving this.

But here's a good what i'm in the mood for what you provide and what kim el provides with a bar provides you guys do IT Better than anyone, guys. What i'm in the mood for a long foreign, it's like there is no .

one Better. Much, much. Thank you.

Thank you. One god, god free impression for.

Thank you for. And the audience did to do when you were orts.

You have time for a couple years. I love jb very much. By the way, I wanted tell you.

Jimmy, who doesn't love Jimmy family.

I let you in on this secret.

And Nancy, jovan.

oh, nanc is the best. Jimmy and I are gonna camping together on a beach. And it's just going to the two of us alone. And Jimmy, right? We're going to be an, what is I called an rv.

an air street. God, how much gonna of your guest is? One of the other things that we get to do is we get to choose. We reach out two people that were interested in talking to, right? How much of that do you do and how much that comes .

in through we we we reach out to some people, but mostly and this is probably to our detriment. But I don't want to have a lot of guess. We we just we keep an amount, I think are just some of our stronger shows when we're just sitting and do in our own thing. Yeah.

we'll be right back. And now back to the show.

I have to say, I I try to be .

a guess on your show for so many years. I kept asking my policies every year. Is hope they are things good enough in my career? Or maybe I give you what how I remember I was, but I was got both said, listen, Jason, we got news back.

Is good news, bad news? Good news is he says he's a fan. Bad news is he says he just genuinely really has nothing he would like to know. But I know i'm parra zing, but I was absolutely.

you know what I was like said honestly, I said and I said, look, I could google you and find out .

I don't .

need to .

get to k what talking to somebody who's got like, weird, fucked up.

Here's the thing, if I did a show every day where I just interviewed one guest, that would be fascinating in me. But there's also in an audience in in my my group that likes to heroes doing, you know, bits and stick and like sitting and talking.

Rob and I just talking, and I recognize that so I I don't overload the show with a lot of guess but sometimes we do reach out like um you know I wanted joe by non so we had him on and I wanted Bruce springsteen. I'd begged him to come on. I just wanted to come on, yeah, yeah.

I was unbelievable. Be sitting in a room with Bruce and he's doing a concert basically talking about how we create songs. yeah.

So, you know, we do reach out there. people. I I just love you.

Do you miss playing music at all? Like being a different .

I never was about you. You know, it's weird. I play music and I talk over IT.

Yeah yeah. So you know, it's like I can't playing. When I got into radio, I was a distance. You know, straight this just my father was first, most long to be a straight this, jacky, not all that nonsense you do. So, yeah.

So I went on the right on and be like, hi, this is how we're stern, W R N W progressive music from the words. And this is rosy still nation. And so, you know, we would do that.

And I hate IT IT. I hate IT IT. Even you had a segway that you had to play a record and make sure there was no dead air.

And with the autonomy you couldn't launch bands, you had to play, oh no guy, I play whatever I wanted. But IT was, IT was horrible. I mean, IT was a lot of pressure.

Know you had to get the commercials line that IT was just you in a little room, in a house, somewhere up in the woods. IT was, you know, these are the city radio stations, ninety six dollars A A week, and and you played records and you announce them. And and this was what I did.

And I was the worst that IT. I was the worst I had. There were no performance of my family.

I didn't understand performance. I was not in show business, my my father, ever. You cannot be on the radio.

You have no allocation. You do not enunciate. You read nothing .

that you did have some sense that you no sense, sense, a sense your personality might be halfway.

when I walk around college, nobody seems to pay attention me. I think I had the worst person.

You had no confidence that you were going to be someone compelling.

I would write letters to my girlfriend saying, I will be. I will be the world's greatest radio performer. I have no idea. I don't know. I just, I just knew that there was something there.

So you weren't always, weren't always, you weren't always this charismatic. You weren't always this. No one talking.

And no IT took me years. That's that's why I resent this pound cast. You guys, you just got here talking.

I had to spend years. I had to spend years, years. I took me ten years just to get conversational.

So, yeah.

you guys are too talent. But so is, how many were you .

a fan of music?

Oh, huge fan of music. You know, music meant more to me than religion. I never got a thing out of religion, but man, when I hear the beatles or the stones or or George Harrison, you know, is my sweet lord, that stuff that spoke to me, that move me.

And I and I was happy to launch a lot of bands. I was a programme director for a while. Yeah, and I need you to understand.

I didn't know anything a guy from a record company would call me up and he go a, would you play our recent? I don't sure, because I, no, no, no. I'll play for you because you have to play for me. reported. I didn't care.

I was like musicians.

I admire musicians and I know how hard they work at IT.

But is that the group that that if anyone is going to get you start some athletes.

musicians ah yeah who .

who is the one that you haven't met?

You be like I H um well, i've met paul. Yeah, i'm ringo and they were great on the show.

You want to take a temperate of the room about the named the beetles oh yeah.

you guys .

know about this brain what .

happened?

But let's honest thing of the audience, I didn't know my whole life. I thought I was the insect, the beetles I didn't know was people who make beats.

The bat was like lap.

If you were with.

Thank you.

Did did not know that too right now.

the of the room.

I want to thank you guys for that story.

Have you seen have have you noticed the arrow in the fx logo? Yes, yeah.

I know what.

All right.

Here's one you didn't know, shine, here's, I guarantee you, you didn't know. Yeah, you know, the a place you go for. rose.

Beed, right? R bees, right? yeah. Why is he called arb?

They got the meat. No.

no. Think about IT. Why is IT? R bees .

roast beef? R bee roast beef.

I didn't know that.

but I could.

So speaking.

speaking.

really glad I came on.

By the way.

these guys treated like at A T. At the, I just won the radio. I don't think .

we've said IT yet. I can't thank you enough for doing this. You don't do this. You i've see you do IT for letter, man, i've seen you do IT for camel. You don't do this.

and I can't. Thank you note.

and happy to be.

We really do. And just so you're not just hearing from Jason that you are the gold stand for us and you're the guy that we always .

wanted about .

you all the well.

i'm really honored and well, much to your point, for many years I couldn't take a compliment, but I do appreciate you.

And I got a new one for you OK. Everybody knows recently seventy, it's unbelievable.

It's so .

that you have not changed.

Yes, good.

Pick me up here. Like, what are you guys doing? I know you're not out there.

Like, run in ten miles on the beach every day. Is this just jeans? I mean, you look actually terrible.

The thing exactly .

the same for the last thirty.

even see a picture about. But I will tell you one thing, I do not color my hair. No, I I can tell that I don't. But this is. And I have a great beer.

He doesn't, right? But .

you're .

supposed to, you got IT.

I got a belly in tech, right? Honey.

you've see me when my shirt off. She's is busy. You don't look like .

you a or your sore. I can't again, no. See my your greater. Are you doing anything that first?

I do. Well, yeah, I do. I paint.

I like to paint. It's incredible to painting here.

I don't know you guys does that? People know. okay. And the photography, it's like and we in the tiny sketching with with the magazine glass.

I like, I don't use a magic. No more. I never did. I never .

use there something.

have a bank, but I don't use for that. I just telling crazy, you know, always there, always there. But yeah, I enjoy those.

How when did you start playing at our okay.

so what i'll tell you why play guitar and i'm going to lame. I'm to blame to me, found you going to do with elly role tonight. I, to me, stand up every go.

Jimmy fan, Jimmy, here's what happened ten years ago. I turned sixty and I said, I either want to play the guitar, yeah, or I want to learn to. And I never draw, I never drew, I never you know that for some reason that I had I wanted to paint in the worst way.

So that's all ten. I began to yeah began to study water color. And I really focus on IT. I mean and you know it's a appearance that you have to you have to you just have to focus on IT. It's not that people have some sort of natural ability.

It's the work you have to .

work whole.

And i'm an expert.

You too laugh for that. I think was .

pretty good.

pretty well. We that .

that it's okay to laugh .

but you know anyway enjoy but I applied .

you wanting to research and find other things um not that you are older and like someone is not old, but that you pursue .

things that not chAllenging to do new well, it's true and by the way.

that flocks my head up because what I said to my wife, I want to to learn guitar, yes, but feel foolish because of my age. Like what am I trying to do here? I don't want to be a rock star.

I don't. I just want to understand you because I love musicians. Yeah, and I love what they do. And I want to understand that language.

Let's do. I do that sometime.

piano. Itar.

do you play menu?

E N G, I do. All right. We can do. IT a yes. Class guitar.

no. But I don't play this .

day twelve ing the arman no.

no, no, no IT heard the .

fingers doesn't IT yeah well.

look at my, look at the tips of my fingers. Look at those callosity .

ah yeah so Jason.

well, i'm on vacation now so I can play no from work. I'm on vacation from work, so I can play some days, five, six hours, really.

So you must be good now.

good cheer song once is .

one of them a well.

I mean, you got to say henricus, you got to say, Jimmy page, I mean, Jimmy page. Now I have even more appreciation for Jimmy page yeah I was playing um one of the most beautiful love songs thank you. Yeah 不好意思 and the intro of that and you sit and you realize this guy wrote this yeah yes excel ent excEllent exactly is that you singing you are playing the guards that but you realize how brilliant IT is。

And in order to to get to that level, you've got to play every day for hours and hours. And I met at myself because when I was Younger, I didn't allow myself to practice music. We're shoon. Did we've be .

smart about IT? Well, when I was Younger, I had so many, I don't know why I reacted this way, but so many adults, when they found out when I was like five, six, seven, eight years old, playing piano boxing, they go, you know what, I wish I had stuck with IT over and over and over, all these adults telling me that, so, like, there must be something to that. So that's what made .

me stick to there. Something was there, fork in the road. Where had you stuck with that instead of radio?

You radio had had to be radio for .

me that was never .

like with five years old announced, I announced my family, I will be on the radio, which ridiculous IT doesn't make any sense. I don't understand IT. And but your dad was the sound engineer.

Yes, he was a radio engineer. radio. So, so that part of IT made. Yeah, I listen. My father didn't spend a lot of time paying attention to me or interacting with me.

And I used the minded.

Well, I would watch him. He was focused on you. No, but, but he he would, when I would see him commuting to work, and he put the radio on a bob grant was on, who was this broadcast service, ative broadcast.

But the guy was mesmerizing on the radio. And I saw the way my father listened and churched me, told me, you shut the fuck up so he could hear about grand. And I said, so that's how you get. That's how you get. Someone is attention to you get on the radio.

You did IT to get your dad attention, I think so. yeah. So did you get? Sorry, just to follow up on that.

If you don't mind, do do you think what was the moment with your dad? I mean, I have you had an incredible success in in radio. Was there a moment where he like, was there an actual moment where he went? Holly, shit, Howard.

And I think my mother put, you know, he just, he just you know he was not my father. My father grew up in the depression. Yeah he had nothing when I say nothing that was IT was like literally like no shoes know his father was worked in a sweatshop as a pants. My father was a very deprived guy and and he didn't have a lot of room for emotion. I think he probably had a lot of bother up emotion, but he couldn't he couldn't express IT and he he didn't know how, didn't have the facility which but but I would love to have know my father.

I would have to what do you think you're so well? adjust.

I mean, i'm .

still the .

country that wouldn't .

be with .

an says, please.

you do not want to come up and do you think do you well, but like, I don't think that people know. Like if there was one misconception of you, do you have any idea what that might be? I mean, I don't know, but I will say that for me personally, given your edge of humor, IT was really exciting to get to know you a little bit and see how incredible bly soften to where you are on the inside, how incredibly sincere and genuine.

But what I said was, you know, IT IT was unfair. Crimply saying, oh, that's an act on the radio. I was who I was a lot, obviously.

but there's a choice to like, not be fucked up and just know how to manage my .

attitude about radio. And I say this over and over again was I just want to make people have, yeah, I want people have a great time in their car, whether it's if it's a compelling interview, great. But if i'm sitting there and i'm being really funny and i'm doing something good, um well, you know that's what i'm trying to do.

So I never did anything out of mAlice. I did IT because I thought I was genuinely funny. Was I genuinely funny sometimes.

sometimes in the truth, your observations were picking my truth, sometimes painful for folks. And that was a funny part.

part of that being honest to remember when you spoke about your health care, about having a little spot on your kidney, think that was nothing, and that you revealed, like that was one of the first one of the few things that you did not share with your audience, because you've always been so open and honest you're onest about everything. So what is where is that line? And is there anything .

i'll tell you why you guys probably know this from doing this now, having a popular show, you know, if you go on a radio and you say, listen, I could potentially, I have this thing and they telling me could be cancer and ninety five percent chance you start to get letters from every now at all in you, I, i've listen, my mother died, your fuck to this or that and I am the writ I am erratic about, know? I don't want to, where is broadly cool?

I just want to look at.

come on up. So good. Like.

is gorgeous.

I love, I love bradley Cooper. I don't mind. No, there are people as I love broadly.

I love you.

Another one of I tell you, brad cook, love to hear a great is positive. One of the greatest moments for me on the show, a personal you, because you ask about people I interviewed, was interviewing braddy. And at the time, bradly had just finished the run.

Bada phillip, brilliant job. absolutely. I am a fan of the open man. And I said, you know, and and brightly, so serious about the elephant, a serious elephant, and hang up, he go, know, I don't I just want to know. I don't joke about the elephant. I said, i'm not gonna ke, but I would like to do the elephant and for you and if you and I would love if you would come back, is your elephant man yeah and so I said. 都要 开， 都是。

so kind， feel beautiful .

and broadly look and I said they onna walk .

out and he goes so and we had a moment .

where we were both the elephant s in our character and the biggest highlights radios. And you have you got to act.

attack with brightly cook.

Very few people, very few. This guy is one of our best act, I fied. And without one of the greatest filmmakers, we've got my, that's right. And when he saw he was so inspired, tell him brightly how good I was. IT loved IT never so such acting, i've no training, by the way, is an actor that how many .

times is your addition for private parts?

Yes.

you want to know something about private parts. Here's the funny thing. So in in development movie.

by the way, thank you. It's how it's .

a great so so good but I got to .

tell you a funny story about because because this this leads into IT, it's insane. So you know, closed to the mind. So I I wrote the book and I had no clue when they said they want to make a movie out of IT.

How are you going to make a movie out of this thing? Before bedtime, I was involved in writing some of the scripts. We had other writers in this net.

There were twenty five fold draft of this thing, and each one was worse than the next. And my agent at the time, we just passed away down, but he said to me, these groups are so bad, you'll be left out. So the movie to video said, listen, paramount, the russia entertainment put up the money, and paramount was the distributor. And so they said, listen, this is crazy. The money that we're spending on these writers and you're not accepting any of these scripts, we're gonna hire jeff gold bloom to play you since you won't do well.

Is that true?

Is a great jeff.

I said, I looked at the eye and I said, you know what I would pay to see that I would love to see jeff gold bloom is how it's dirt. I think you would be terrific.

But anytime had you was a plan for you to play the part and they wanted to court.

no, I was so frustrated with me because I had written into the contract and get this was my agents brilliant. They couldn't make the movie unless I had full script approval. And I wrote, have the script .

and they suck that be so greatest. Just shoot some scenes today with jeff gold bloom, absolutely from right. And just put IT on the internet.

Lot of fun. You want to know one .

of the most .

ruling things in my career.

thinking of that. And we have you to know you people are really fault. I I had to go home and paint, played the guitar, busy.

No, I sit at home and stay at the wall and battle to me. SHE not allowed to leave the house. You know, you go home .

tonight and just and just turn on the T. V.

Oh yeah, i've got the advanced copy of next week's bachelor red. How do you watch traders .

to watch traders .

battle nation all the way? Anybody else with me look jb founds with me braddy. Well, these people have a life I .

love that you do not man loves.

Watch IT bradly .

watches bachelor at. That's the secret. He doesn't want anyone to know, right? Yeah, he loves IT. What time is he?

So, yes.

much, very.

Oh my god.

Gonna record.

Honestly.

everybody take a nice break or record in about twenty minutes what you show.

actually, ever. You keep talking.

We're to leave.

We're going to keep you going to .

do a wrap up. Yeah.

I are going to talk about how great you are once you like.

Maybe I should listen in I, you and I tell you .

what I do.

But here's a thing, you once in a while, every once in interrupt and I just that good radio or that's .

really good idea. You know, if we cut your mic.

not at all. The judge on americans got.

I know, fantastic.

By the way, the guy who did the warm up today, they had a warm up.

O, yeah, old.

I wanted him to win the entire season. He did not win that .

he and .

he should have his family.

his.

Because what you can do, you're being quiet and pretending that you're not here when we're doing.

I have to be completely right. You can talk a bit.

but I want to think about you might .

be we might embarrass you if you stay at and heard .

how much pay you yeah. okay.

It's thank .

you for having being thank you. I'm very excited that you're part of the serious exam, so I wish you a lot of success. Thank you.

Not too much success, but a lot of success. sure. And no serious ly IT is great to have you guys in the family.

Thank you for blessing us and do IT.

And by doing this, understand the serious stocks going to go over two dollars and ninety cents now that you guys I, yes, I can say that stuck. I'm going to be so wealthy.

You guys, please help me.

Thank thank you.

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Alright, that I was surreal for me. I ve never met him. I did never .

thought was gna be.

I was really, really nervous. I was .

really nerve what you thought he .

was going to be? Yes, I thought that.

How was he different?

I thought I didn't know. He was gonna so relaxed and easy to talk to. I thought he was going to be like, so what do you guys has got? Let's see what you guys got. And he wasn't like that at all because he is the king of all of that.

But he was also is incredibly and empathetic and probably knows that we're nervous and it's we're dumb and and we a new show and he's the king.

And why? Ty, five .

art, yeah.

Immediately he took, he took the, he took the rains and helped us, and he started .

talking and he wrote so many questions because you were so nervous. Five is an hour. yeah.

How like writing .

any questions you didn't get to that we should listen to anything you're really pissed .

you didn't get to the I mean, we talked about a lot about to talk about italy a little bit more. And like his bache, like was this ideal .

by cage Jimmy on and talk about.

okay, anyway so I love him though i've been a huge brand and by the way, I didn't share with you guys .

the .

first time looking nothing .

yeah so .

the first and .

you can see his brain .

tears himself .

up for IT. right?

It's too early to do IT. Now we still .

do not wrap up. wrap. We wrapped up.

So we saw the first .

time I was ever here. And the hamp tins was only like two, three years ago, and that was the first time ever. And I stayed with the will at his house, which is not very far from mirk and terble and and well, if so close as just going to ask, well, you today, did you drive yourself over here? Did you ride your buy?

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