"Governor Tim Walz"
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Guys quite a day, day, day.

day really cited.

I want audio security that was really surprising.

What well.

IT was a lot of the year pRobing. So all the wax is of I O K. I was testing .

connection, testing connection.

Yeah but I feel like there's something really special coming.

Well, sounds like you guys are really .

cleaned up for today to do anything.

No, I was just I got up early because I .

was nervous about today. Well, you good right to be. It's it's a big, big day for us because of our listeners because we were a place that really important folks like the tim's campaign think that this might be a worthy stop. Um so thank you to listeners. You guys made this happen and we are really excited to talk to our next case.

So get we also want to say, I know that a lot of people come and listen as much less because it's a great place to kind of get away from all the noise stuff.

But we get by.

J, B, you are tired like this is also a really good time. Remind people that .

they need to yeah they don't need to vote, but they should vote. They could vote. We happen to have our own opinions that become pretty you apparent and evident because we're on the side of common sense, but just vote.

Lot of people but hurt or killed or whatever, trying to a secure that right for all of us. Let's just go use IT. We only get to do IT once every years.

And and I think you're right and get IT can be said enough, which is even if you if you don't agree with us, that's okay, but still good out vote. It's still important we all have that right and I respect your right to do IT and you should respect my did .

j when you said common sense, do you think I have a lot of common sense?

It's no news barkless.

By the way, dinner was really good. Last night was, oh, I know we .

had with burgers, right?

Did you bring .

a desert on? I drought a tana desert.

Did really listen, i'm not kidding. I brought Brownies.

rice, Christmas treats, banana. Sorry, I just like you, I thought for you rest Christy cakes, breakfast.

breakfast.

This is true. Well, that's the great thing about them. You can need .

that many time in the day. Thank you.

So where did will you try each one of those things?

So how about that?

He's pretty disciplined about the sugar.

yes. And then I told you, well, but time I get home, I will have a bully ice cream and I did and I said to.

shown we were talking about sleep, you know that which has been over for us and I he was talking about his poor sleep by and waking up or not being able to go to bed and I said, you're having, what are you having at night? Goes nothing this, i'll be a, this me go and when I get home, I mean, I might have some ice street, there are is a.

anyway.

let's get to our guests. Ah, yeah, whose guess is this?

I've not. It's america's americans.

There are only a few times, probably less than five. I don't know on this show this thing that we do where the guest, all three of us know who the guest is because they're a big freak and deal. And today is one of those shows.

And I speak up for all three of us when I say that this is an a huge honor to have him come to speaker this for a bit. His many things, all the vital al get into shortly, from the army, national guards, a teacher to congressman to governor, to so many other things. But to me, he's the quint essential, all american dad.

I never had o and he's also a coach, something else I could probably use in my life. Currently running to be the next vice president of the united states of america. Please come, tim. Also there yeah .

I know there will hang out well, how do you like to be addressed .

and governor stuff, I just just lived on IT for the entire entire week. So and IT wasn't ironic. IT was like.

really know that was.

yeah, just great.

I want to get because I was, well, night.

J, we must. That's I should skip the dog game at wax.

I'm no, but we were talking about sleep. We always talk about sleep with these guys because i've always had trouble. And then i'm like, you got thrown into this campaign.

I be like, you going? No, I wanted know. It's very deshon smart. This question is, you're sleep hygd like you go when you seem like you go twenty four hours a day just going for this and this you have to do worried.

tim, that you're .

not getting enough sly.

When do the naps happen?

How do you, how do you get where the energy comes from? know?

The good thing is old men need less sleep er or whatever. I guess, look, I don't I do not sleep that much i've been using this saying you kind of my catch saying and I said, you know i'll sleep and we're dead and ah I do want come up me because because you're taking this too literally you look like helme I mean IT well but yeah, no, i'm not always I always fascinating .

about that schedule. I like you're just the schedule for all day, every day. It's amazing. Yeah no.

Well, it's a privilege to do. You're right. My daughter keeps me on. You got one of these rings, you know, monitor your sleeping, everything, and I need one of those. But I I think that will just tell me what .

I already ready know. I'm not kidding any sleep that's I haven't done the ring, but i've done the apple watch thing. Whatever I was. A great apple watch .

is the great apple .

watch and he are to got IT.

And I think it's really good stuff. I think these apple folks .

are onto something we be called be shameless. And if there's any product out there, you got your on just mention .

IT and will have to sixteen proxy. It's really working so .

and so but I was going to say about that watched those sleep tracking things I got into IT for a while and I think your daughter is right because you go like, okay, well, work. But then at the end of the day, when enter happen is you start feeling bad. So I wake up, I go, I think I did OK then, oh my god, I only got three, three hours of rim. And then I got sleep, panic. Yeah.

yeah, yeah.

IT is just the thing. I think seeing the one thing about this is there is an instate, if you will, on november fifth. So you just kind of put your mind and and say, look, there will be a time when the sands really that's probably not true thing.

things calm after the fifth.

It's the trick I play myself. Team is good. I am surprisingly, and you wouldn't know what by looking at me. I'm a pretty dedicated runner. I run about five times a week.

That's great. How far do you go?

I go a five k usually between three and five miles and i'm no again, i'm kind of frequently fast you know nine minute miles, little less or whatever which is people like, oh my god, that's a world .

ord a age you can well, governor, um you had security detail where you running with or you want a tremail.

I do a td mill quite a bit of the time, but you have to get outside and my team knows so like whatever or anywhere. And actually here a while back after we finish that debate the next morning, I got to run in central park and he also nice. We ran that reserve around, just stunning.

And i'm still truly know the small tune enough. I have not been much time in new york is blows me away when i'm there. Yes, nice people.

And that morning, you know, so many great people, you know kind of good for the good for the psyche a good job governor. Yeah and I like like and they're course super surprised i'm running too. So was like a double positive.

I like the idea of you running in central park, looking around and really because you have been there a lot, taking IT in, touring around, not unlike very tired more in the day and the that is .

surprisingly close to how I think .

we will make IT after now. Now tim.

when you're running, what are you do you have do you have like a uh, airports in? Are you listening to music?

Are you listening to rarely, sometimes? I'm kind of then on that I got into IT, you know that I got into the garden water, but I kindly let that go and I, you know run by fuel yeah trying to get into that. I do think there's something and especially like when i'm in many apple, as you know, I got a state trooper, but it's just pretty calm.

They're run behind whatever right folks who run leave there. I'm convinced of this dog folks and runners. They leave politics out of IT because they know at your time so it's really refreshing that people talk you like a runner, not like you're the governor, something so like you you look good or whatever .

yeah you have a favorite subject that you do like to talk about that is not politics like are you a support? I know your sports guy, but like you love talking about the vikings or the corn hospitals or whatever IT is, or or or or reality television, or what do you like to talk about this kind of nicer.

silly, I think cars I grew at a time, you guys Younger than me, whole cars I can much more into. You know, the pixar movie, I remember you.

I apologize.

perhaps so so. But I just think, like classic cars, i've never really owned that many. But you know, the cars you have, I watched the cards I used to own unit that grew up in high school and had a beautiful caro, you know, at the time, and then I created in on the civic. And now you watch these option shows on my damn, that cars worth eighty thousand doors. Now I traded IT for .

on the civic worth two friendly I had. My mom gave me this like, I kicked and screamed, has like, please can I just SHE would like a two hundred dollar car he had like, rushed all over IT. And my friend rina, you know, rina, his guys RNA SHE called a greece lightning. And she's like, you taking greece lightning to school today.

Now, what about are you? Are you really into the sound of of a combustion engine? Or are you, are you into the.

like, tric engine, the clean hour of .

an electric, the hole backdrop.

the whole backdrop, this I I was in I was in phoenix for I was a governors of enter whatever and there's folks they're displaying their there and ah the lucid folks were there, we there faster st production car ever you put any lamborghini out there, this thing and it's like inside a spaceship, things like one point eight seconds in the quarter. I mean, it's a zero to sixty. It's unbelievable. Yeah and it's like a whole new world. And I have never yet owned a fully electric, but they are they're .

fascinating.

So yeah liked every single car brand now has a fully electric car um and I don't want to throw undo shade towards mr. Mosque, but I could tell you his politics is I get rid of my tesla. I feel like i'm driving around the trumps ckt with that car so it's done and I am now enjoying.

I called the cyp dw truck.

Here's my thing. This is for me. And I said.

I think my Price position is that i've had IT for a long time. I got a seventy nine international harvester, know they used to get these things away. And you scout, scout too.

There you you can hear that these things so, but ah these things are you used to get IT if you bought a tractor, they threw in the scout for there was original S. U. V. Yeah, there was a back in the late seventies. So mine was right before they went out of business.

IT was one thousand nine hundred seventy. They they went out .

of business precursors of of suvs. But here's the deal forty years ago at the end of october is when they close. They remain four thousand in inDiana. So on that date this year, they're announcing the new scout bringing IT back fully electric yeah so an international harvester scope that famous name name pe is back wagon bought IT um and so there they're launch in that thing. So that's a stuff I talk about and it's .

the car stuff because it's shepard's podcast. You talk you for three days about the .

guys who are so smart. Tell me how to do IT. Look, i'm i'm tanker on the edges. These are guys that can, you know, replace a transmission of I have that I said when I had done with this, I go back to, like community college. I don't like body work, you know, just a sense of accomplishment that you can fix your own vehicle. You can put on a new quarter panel.

You can pain IT. You took body work in high school, right? Like a lot of raki and that .

if you broke down inside the road or one of those guys, I can they can just pop the hood and look under parents and and kind of look around and see like, oh.

there's the problem yeah some of IT some of that I can but look on these new ones. Like, I don't even know how to open the hood and I have something like on the ga angle, but the cars that you used to be able to do, my kids IT would blow their mind like some of the stuff we could fix. Like my my vehicles overheat, I said odds of the thermos and you draw how to take IT out, put IT in boiling water.

pop that I was just a kids don't know that stuff anymore, they know. And there's some adjacent, has IT causes us. Agent, if you get a flat tire. So I mean, and that's the truth, and you need to know the truth about this guy, but I mean the hollywood, the liberal latest.

But but I think .

if my cars are scoto do i'm pulling over and like, I don't know .

if no idea then makes .

you feel powerless. I said, I think to my kids, some of these things you can try repair. I like a look we all know that's also very, very dangerous because I don't know sometimes and I start taking stuff apart, then you're like, well, here's six extra screws and there's no idea where they are going. There's a bit of that. So for sure.

speaking of your kids, which one of them or you or your wife gets most pissed off when somebody a calls you walls instead of walls? Yeah yeah my daughter probably yeah, it's a home. It's a whole new wave of IT now, right?

Are people's problems wall? There's no tea. Yeah, there's no t IT .

seems pretty easy that but you know in all fairness, probably when you know when we immigrated from from germany, they they probably drop the tea. And well.

this is the last wave of IT like you. You cannot get more famous than you now. So everyone is. So finally got IT. I just tell me what that I know.

This is like a stock answers. But I really wanted know what that feeling was like in the reaction when you got the call from caller ming. That was so wild.

the story and typical me fashion, I missed. The first one was, I thought I was like, you know, a car warranty call coming and so I didn't a one like, this was her decision. And tuesday morning one. And then I got another. Pick up your and then call back .

your warranty may be .

expiring IT overwhelming IT was an available privilege. But I heard you guys talking, and I listened to the the ted danced and what to hear her some peace about know imposter syndrome. Trust me when the by first united states called inside, you're on the ticket with me. Ah IT sinks .

cool fast. Have you allowed yourself .

to to really imagine and and start to build like a possible wish list of things that you would like to be given the rains to when you guys win?

Well, this is one. And I I think it's just your mental health of compartment alizon things still focused on, you know, this final stretch that's ahead of us still thinking about that. I trust the vice president or make her decision on that.

Know, I said I wasn't interviewing for a job when I talked to. I said, used my skills sets. If you need to plunk me in all model when one votes, send me there just what I would to help.

And I think SHE and IT feels really right to me. He talks about, you know, kid from OK in the kid from the browser, middle school kids, kind of complimentary things. We've live different life.

We have the same values. So I would assume you would know, you know, my passion is is kids and teaching and an education. And yeah, that's IT. We'll be right back .

and now back to the show.

We were just talking with somebody .

recently about this idea like getting nervous when you're putting in in a position like this and getting a call from the vice present saying, hey, you're on the ticket makes you probably makes you feel nurse. But I wonder if when something like this happens, it's almost like a thing that you can even dream about, at least certainly I could IT. So it's almost like you can't get even nervous because it's so far beyond what you I can get nerves about things that I think about doing.

but if something comes, it's no, no, that's a great I mean that this was a tuesday morning. We got the call within twenty minutes. My life changed like mine, my own dam business at home.

IT blows up. IT should be noted that should be noted to I did turn that down. I was the first call.

And then was I just .

why being honest?

But they sweep in. You've got all these folks around you. They pack your clothes for you, tell you you go and get on a private plane, which is i've never flown on a private plane to do this.

so they fly you to face today Jason, never not.

Yeah, I I was waiting for they take you to filter alpha.

And then I also .

when I told them, when they're interviewing me, I said, look, i've never given a speech of a teleprompter speak and I look at IT has the problems and I told him, you'll get about ninety percent good, then you will get ten percent stuff. You will have to clean up. That's me because that's how I talk.

Yeah, but they send me there. They put me in the back of a college locker room, and they had mocked up the stage. I was going to go on in about an hour and put the speech on the teleprompter.

And so I practice a little, little bit, and then i'm standing at that door in philadephia elf, fifteen thousand people waiting to see the vice president in this announcement SHE understanding out in the curtain. And she's like, you know, well, get this right. So they opened up and that's what what.

But no, just you're right. I think you're analysis is right. IT was just too big to get nerves about IT. I didn't have time .

to think you didn't seem that when you came out with, he was so terrific. And I felt like we go honestly IT IT really felt like here we go. We are entering into a new age in, and thank god to time is the guy, and time is here and there. A lot of rather .

great candidate for sure. And that authenticity and that man, joy and happiness and privilege that you must be feeling IT IT IT comes through and it's just so damn refreshing IT was IT hard for you to maintain that down to earth personality which you clearly have when you got in the politics where where most your fellow politicians um either have to be or have learned to be overly polished and and slick IT was is a is a is heartening for you to be around so many colleagues that are like that ah it's just you so refreshing it's a different approach and I always say .

this that I I never an honest got I never thought about running for office that a whole life before this teaching national guard in my community and things like that. But I think my life prepared me well and so I approach like you look, you have got to be pretty self ware and pretty humble to teach high school for a because but it's also so gratifying.

And I think one of the things is, is that i'm supersensitive to this idea um these are servant leadership positions. This isn't a special thing that you have been granted. Your job is to work for people and I try to approach you like, I was hired to teach kids in school, so I need to do my best job, you know, like butter.

And i've been hired to be a representative. And I I took a great pride that I was very bipartisan. I, you know, this idea that we can figure things out, my staff we always had a saying that you know if the fact disport ideology we change your ideology is that simple you not married to IT um so a lot of times I don't have a ideological dog and and fight.

Its just put the fact show and I think trying to approach to these things like problems solving, you're working with people, you're trying to do your best. Um i'll be the first to admit IT is been really chAllenging with down you know this I want a congressional race in twenty sixteen um dollar trump when my district by double digits, nearly twenty percent well so so thousands of people voted for dollar trump at me on that that was only a few years ago. Now would that be true to day? Probably not.

They've continued to, I think, trying to focus on what the job is that it's a humbler and it's not your whole identity. I watch these folks trying and hang on to these jobs and things like that, everything if the folks don't want me to do, if they won't do IT. But i'm tell you, here's what we can do yeah to first one.

I hope I congrats and and I I really do hope that you are wrong as as you say, you you a high school teacher in a coach and you had no sort of political aspirations. I hope that you decided to do IT. IT inspires other people like you who are leaders in their community and who aren't looking to to enrich themselves, who aren't looking for anything other than to serve. I hope that inspires other people to do what you've done.

because that's what we need. I mean, hundreds every day to sure they won't. They won't though, because of the money and because of what they afraid will happen if they .

get into and so and their lives will get up and security yeah, we were speaking .

of the the overwhelming thing on this back during that debate, and they drove through times great to see picture up on those big screens. And so somebody said, you look nervous no kiddin. I'm set in freaking out.

I'm but i'm honest to go before things went live. I'm standing there and i'm like, there's three hundred, forty five million people this country. Is me in this dude that right? And it's true. I mean, it's kind of overwhelming, but that kind of got rid of my imposture gentman and said, look, I know that. I know .

what's right. I know. Why am I just go back?

Your values point is that I do hope people do yeah, I do hope they get out there because we need them.

We need good going to. And what do you think IT was when you talk about having A A guy like down the truck getting double digits in your district? What do you think IT was that allowed people to convince themselves that that he would be when I see that that these top unions are deciding like, well, we don't know if we can endorse a nal candidate this year because they've worried about their membership on union.

Imagine this union members who want to support Donald trump, the guy who wants to do nothing, but who has nothing but this regard for them. It's staggers. And i'm sure I can get a million comments back on this. Somebody on one of our social pages, people would say, if you are not, you don't know what you're talking about, you've never first of all, I have had lots of real job. So I say right back at but but also, you know, this is a guy who doesn't have any regard for the american failure, doesn't have any regard for hard working people, doesn't have any regard would would bust a union as as quicker than then you can imagine. So what is IT about that, that they've been .

able to for these people? Yeah, in ranking fire, one thing looked the leadership in unions that's more political than what i'm doing. They have to cover their but on on their things.

And most frustrated as you are on this world. But the one thing I do think about you wonder what happened. The first thing, I think if there's not something wrong, what might situations there? These are good people trying to go to work and do things.

And, like the new york times, send somebody out every few weeks to interview a guy of bar and figure out what happened to rural america. These are my family. I've lived there.

I do think one of the things I always said this as a teacher, if I would give an exam or something and a majority of students would not do well, probably had a little something do with me in there. Was I not getting IT across. And so I think some of IT is, is how we message this.

I don't I don't think that's the full blame on IT. Certainly gone to trump is a master of manipulation, a master of what new media look like. But I do think there are some ways as what are we not doing to appeal to those rank. Look, i'm a union member. I think you know that's that's what I did and I get a lot of union support, but I know there's some rank file members and so they're not monolithic.

It's not their only issue, right? But I say this and i'm kind with you on this world, the rest of IT is is you don't have to worry about all the rest of that stuff if you're not in the union because you're not going get paid as well, you're not to have a pension, you may not have health care. Um you Better for on the things that matter, stay in your lane. And so they've been a good job of distracting on things that are the cultural .

world stuff rather than the order order IT seems like if if if those folks were slightly more sort of curious or discerning when IT comes to news, information, facts, um maybe they wouldn't make that decision and maybe they would be more prone to vote for you guys instead of him.

Can you as a teacher, uh, attract that back or or or attribute that to something that we're not doing right in schools to make me know? Because I just feel like if it's just common sense to me IT seems like there's a clear choice for everyone in this country if you just want to take just preserving democracy alone hood to vote for. But all these these smaller issues IT doesn't m like pretty easy if you just look a little bit further than, you know, fox news or whatever you would see.

Oh, all the facts are on the side of going this direction instead of that direction. And and maybe does IT start at schools? Well.

this maybe, but this one I think vice present here is focusing really rightly. This idea midd class doesn't sound like anything so ground breaking, but this idea of housing and downpayment assistant, this idea cost this a of child tax created. Because the one thing I will say, Jason, on this is, is that these guys on the other side have created an economy which many the people are talking about are busting their ask just to get by.

They don't have time to spend a lot on this. They're trying to figure how to afford childcare. They're trying to figure out how to to make things work.

They see inflationary Prices go up. And we may say, look, inflation is higher everywhere else in the world. They don't care about that because that's impacting with them.

They hear a guy like jd. Van say egg prizes one up yeah, because of bird flu. They don't care about bird flu. They just know eg, Prices went up. So I do think there's a part certainly, diverting on media is something my wife used to teach a course on modern media, language and logic. Trying to think through that.

But I think part of IT is these guys have, as we're saying on this, they ve they've shifted wealth to the point where the wealth gap is, is staggering. When you see IT in a when you see IT in a graphic, people can't believe how truly put bad IT is. And what's stuck on that is a hope. One of people trying to get through their lives, and Donald trump has told them you where to put the blame, rather than that of the gap.

the wealth gap. The world rap has never been, has never been bigger. And I remember saying this ten, twenty years ago, how that gap was writing one. And now at this place, and if if people think for one minute, they don't trop jy vor give two craps about the middle class, they are looking to do tax cut to the richest americans, to these billions, to give taxes to those when the people who need the tax cuts, or the people write in the middle, who drive this country, who this country.

what IT is when you do that minnesota listed is you know the republicans voice. So it's a high tax data. We're home to many fortune five hundred companies, high concentration but we have created as the fairs tax um it's a progressive tax ism.

If you don't make as much, you don't pay as much. If you make more, you pay more. Look what ends up happening that top five business state, top three place to raise kids, top place for her many longest long jevon he to look at. We're not perfect, I mean, and it's called this helier in the winter. So there's there's things that happen.

but I thought, I thought you control the weather according .

to march telegram. Yeah, he did. IT would not be forty below up here. But you're right. This this idea of making the case to people that that this works and look, this isn't class. You they said you, you're engaging class warfare.

They already won the world almost on that the guys on the other side, yeah but this is about sense of fairness. And it's stunning to me that I thought one of them, you know, my killer lines in this that with the middle house would say, do you think it's fair on trumpet doesn't pay tax? That is being fair. And a lot of people like, well, he's successful. He knows how to work the system.

That's disappointing to work the system. I imagine if I put in this way, if my dad gave me four hundred million dollars, i'll be a hell lot richer. The Donald trumps, oh, absolutely. You could have put in this CD. And so touch.

what do you .

think would be the best way or easiest way to penetrate that that that bubble that they all seem to be firmly inside of a as far as giving them the the information that you know they they need and and could sway their vote, like do you literally have to go to town hall meetings and some of these deep red districts? Does that mean being on fox news a little bit more often? Like how how do you get to them?

Yeah I think that right you know we have buttah goes on fox news quite a bit. He's one of my spoke to people yeah and go on and and just talk to folks because I don't think we can assume that, that all obama not there like the vice president making that case out there going place that you we're going into some of these pretty red areas.

And this is another one of the vice president things that I think when they feel this and people can see IT, we're getting off the bus tour in role pennsylvany. And one side of the street has our supporters and the other state streets, not I said, they always make IT easy force are on the same hat, so we can see, and we know the but he didn't blank and IT wasn't performance. Or are the only people there were a husband and my wife and I and SHE said him, don't never forget we work just as hard for folks on this side of street is on the other side, you start to see some of the results of that.

And we're seeing in minnesota. It's pretty hard like the vice president advocating for this child tax create. We implemented on the state level, lowest childhood poverty. Some of this that starts make sense. You have to have a school teacher.

So I talk mazdas high arch, you know, but you can't get the self actualization about things that people are worry about their safety and they're hunger and things like that, right? Show people that these policies help make them more money. People are willing to tackle climate change.

If their lights come on and their bills don't go up, they don't care where the power comes from. Fact, most people rather see IT come from renewables. But I know, I think sometimes we say, why can't you see we have to save the planet on this? How about we just create a whole bunch of new union jobs like they did with this proposal, whole bunch of opportunities.

Yes, that's a great. It's interesting, you know, of the things that I noticed about what you in by Price Harris that you the way that you guys talk, that a dog you you gave by the vice president talking about we work for all americans there is that sense on a lot of the people who who who vote republican talk about red, blue bobbi ba. You guys don't talk as much about that. You guys talk about .

all because.

yeah, you have to right me. We're all here. We all live here, we all know.

And I think secretly, we all want to get along. I think, yes, I think, I think we all really .

want to be survival. Yeah.

I mean, there is a sort of a fun kind of this team that teams sort of me just speaking to you as a coach and i'm a sports found too. Like there there's a lot of fun being on one side versus the other and you kind of watch the score board and then like you know the standing throughout the year like but that people are bring this now into politics is is is literally dangerous at this point. And so like if they could just get a little bit more in their local team and stop being so sort of tribal and competitive and just think about this unity a little bit more.

I'll tell you, just as a image's graph by training, I love maps, except one. Whoever built the red, blue map did more damage than you would ever imagine. Because you look at that map and you look at out the code and say that the code is already whatever that's not true.

That is not true. There's a mix. Or even you look at an urban area and say, well, that blue, everybody in there, that's not to either. And they created this false mindset for it's very visual.

It's a good note for the newcastle. They should instead of having that big map during election time, they should literally split each each estate into blue registers and then show the percentages rather than color.

And I want go the record saying, just add a difference to you to in what you're doing in the office that you're seeking that I have withheld a really good joke because IT was a really poor chase. Get well and do IT in the rap up. But I I just wanted to do to know that that's .

how much respect I yes.

of course, but but I could be. But I could also make IT about you too. I I could any there. Yeah.

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You know, I for me, the one of the issues that I want to get to, sorry if this seems very above, but I think the issue for me that needs to be taken head on and we need to talk about and I can't believe that there's any debate and talking about IT because considering there's twenty twenty four is women's health care. Yeah for me, for me, IT is number one this year. Women's health care in we the fact that it's even up for a debate is absolutely ridiculous.

I could agree with more. And I look, there's there's household names now of women who should have been able to have their own private health care capital themselves, who are thrust into the national light because they had to go through horrific situations that should have been as simpler st. Health care being delivered.

And look, this is this is something that's taken a while. And and I think for all of us on here, men need to know how to talk about IT. Men need to know, you know how women's, but he's work and doctors understand that.

And I think that's something that has changed. Diageo, you I said you let while back in that in the debate IT IT took a long time for them to get around to two most important issues, the issue of of women's bodily autonomy and the democracy. Seems that goes would have been two questions to come out come out of the shoot with yes.

what's that great quote earth question from camera Harris um to one of the supreme core people about can you think of a law that does is the same for a male body and it's leg there IT is it's all that that IT is .

that simple and and everything stems from that. And these guys are not going to stop. I talk about at the whole, there are all over us. I don't want have stuck with my wife and I infertility issues and in chinese, yeah yeah there is an a .

person out there there's an a woman out there who seeking health care who's doing who who wants to talk about IT or is in a position who feels good about doing IT that nobody y's going out there. That's the other thing is like, you know, abortion, right? Whenever do you think people are this is something that everybody is looking forward. If this is a place that people are a great .

place and they are with, you will. Who's asking for this is who asking for tax cuts for billionaire? Who's to repress women on this? I think this you think you have been so they well, you think they're set around in the bar in with concern saying, and you know, we really need to do we need to ban our wells books and we need to give billion's a tax cut, and we need to repress women, let's hope not, hope not.

I hope they are talking about, we need Better jobs. We make sure you, I can't afford to pay for daycare, tackle these issues. And I think of this, what comm is putting out.

Let's really tackle these issues and shame that we're going after these things. But you know, when we started to do that, they don't want to talk about IT because they got to no plan. Listening to them talk about health care, listening to listening to Donald trump, a ramble about protecting the existing conditions. It's terrifying to me. If you want to be president of united states or vice president, you should at least have a working knowledge how insurance .

works and how healthy you have a working knowledge of how anything. Yes, it's absurd if we, everyone, to have a real conversation you you had to remove the word salad and you're like, no, you the moment you deviate from the question you're .

IT would be for just bleach is just not a real good remedy for anything that else you you know that should .

be party simple. But that is why I have alabaster skin. Listen, I want to ask you something. You know, I just as a side bark.

And when you first come on the scene, you started talking about that program, you started minnesota about free lunches and schools yeah, that in my mind because I my mom raised five kids by herself. I was the Youngest and I would go to school and I wouldn't have lunch. I just wouldn't need. We didn't have the money.

We didn't .

have for pretty hard to learn pretty.

You're all caught up to pup IT.

It's just crazy. We don't, we don't come and ask him, where's your money for the heat today? We put new windows in the schools.

Where's your money, kid? This idea. And look, it's it's that simple. Philosopher, the investing every dollar you invest in early childhood. Well.

bad. I love that. Where where did you get all that growing up? Like where did you get this drive to be the servant of? Like and by the way, thank you for all your service, your public service. And yeah, well.

I think about IT and I you know when you're older is a lot of things that come in certainly from parents and small community. But I got be honest with you. Uh, I grew up catholic and at that time I was about service and a right, the catholic nuns, you know, get a little thomp in the back heads, in your two big for your own bridges.

And and IT really was new testament to the least amongst the type is. So I don't talk about you, don't need people to give you a sermon, elected office, but try and live on a little bit, try and do something. And I think IT was from that.

I feel very by that. And you know, it's different now. And my wife, a converted medal, utter ism, which is basically cathodes with more singing. But that's about, I mean, but at the same it's the same type of principles. So I think that's what I was in again.

We have saying have a great senator who who died way too early in paul wells, noone who said we all do Better when we all do Better and it's the sense of servant leadership, the sense of putting back in and and you benefit. And we keep talking about this to school meals piece of bit. You get Better achievement.

You get Better students in school. And so even if you remove the moral aspect of feeding a child, you actually save money. So if you're just heartless and don't want to pay higher taxes, you say you get twelve dollars return on that. And so I said the simple fiction is you can buy school buses and school meals, or you can buy prison buses and prison meals. You make a decision where you want best and it's much Better.

Yes, yeah, yeah. Well.

of course, that makes some more sense to invest in the future, to invest in ourselves, to invest in our kids. That's the words going to help us in. Because otherwise, if IT rots beneath you, if if that doesn't get supported, then you, there is no future, right?

I try in public schools for all of us to read, and I this is in rural as I keep think about these folks in one of alterius. So you're going have your venture. So here's you're vulture, get a small tax credit or whatever, but your public school closes where you're going to send them.

Where's that rival school when you're out to town? Like I was a four hundred, the idea that the community invested and I had wonderful public school teachers who were teaching in a small school with, you know twenty kids in a class coming everyday, prepared to do that, what a sense of investment they all made. And I think, you know, from that kind of servant leadership of watching the people around me, you know, the the old minister Rogers thing, when you need somebody, find the helper. The helpers were all over and they were doing there there some of that .

I love that I used, you know, just talking to you like choices that earlier you're just so I can see you as a teacher I mean that I I didn't have you as a teacher, but I used remind me you seem like you seem like the the greatest teacher where all the kids just f and love you well.

I was it's a privilege of my life now my wife said, you know, I was the fun teacher and she's the teacher that kids came back ten years later and thank say thank you for teaching the english mr. World was a barrel fund, but, you know, but I learned english .

guys have a similar you guys have a similar dynamic and parenting, are you is he the disciplining .

and konev amazing her and he can do anything. He is just a good central luzon, minnesota woman. yeah.

And where she's great were partners in this. I feel blessed that we got together. But you know, just to be clear, SHE was much more political than me.

Early SHE would watch the conventions. I'm like, i'm not watching the conventions at summer. I'm going golf or something. SHE paid attention. SHE knew at all. I didn't SHE knew people were like, I don't know who this senator from north Caroline is and he would Normal all so, so, so timlin .

me asked you this and you're a coach, you're a teacher, but you're a coach. And I love the idea, you know that that your coach in teams. And so I just think you awesome. You we're looking at the clock. It's we got two minutes left in this election in the team, which is amErica at the sideline.

What are you saying? What are you saying? Does what do we need to do to kind of, you know, to get A W here for our country? Yeah, not just the election, but in general for america.

Look, it's a privilege. And I wish we weren't in this situation. I wish this thing where blow out, it's not gonna be it's going to come down to the hard work.

But the sense of privilege, this isn't about the next four years. This is about the next forty. And you're hearing from your people, you know, around the world, the rest the world, looking for us to do the right thing here.

And I think to be a part of that and everybody to be the little things they can do, whether it's dore knocking, whether it's going on and given what little they have, no donations that people give ten box, that's a lot for a lot of people. They do something else and they give they give the help. I think it's this idea that you can be part of something bigger and that's what people want.

That's whole thing about teams like the kids who enjoyed being on football teams with the most is the kids who got in on kickoffs because you're going to play everybody. He wasn't the best athlete, maybe, but that kid was there because he was with his bodies. He was with his team.

And I think for americans, this idea we can be in this, we don't have to agree. And i'm not naive. This is tough.

There's folks that they don't agree on anything. But I think the vast majority of people realized IT doesn't need to be this way. And I can come on here.

For credit yeah this idea of joy and I watch the wall street journal popo joy i'll take joy over being like crab yan awful and no one wants to be around. That's what she's doing. And politics can be that we look don't trump wants to make IT IT would be easier.

I guess he's saying is just elect one person forever and let them make the decisions. This democracy stuff is hard. It's messy. It's difficult and frustration, but it's the best that's been .

devised yeah it's the best path towards community and will let you go. I I want to ask you, I would sort of building on that, that notion of community and everybody coming together and and after you guys win, what do you think might possibly be a big give that that that you and come could possibly offer to the folks who didn't vote for you guys, that that we get them so happy, you're so comfortable that they would feel good about you with the rest of the country .

getting back to a bit more, get more jobs and say.

but that notion kind becoming one big happy family and like like not just a standard speech about all you want to be president for all, but but something maybe taken directly from the republican and platform or the agenda that that would that would be felt as that given that offer that would come across and you know and have the effectiveness of like an olive brand. Know what?

He said that I agree with her. He needs to appoint a republican to the cabinet ID matters to to a position of authority. And look, there's a lot of a amount that these folks who are coming out in speaking on all of these republicans, I disagree with many of them.

Their values are there. I served with these people, people like jeff, like the senator for marijuana. Yeah, super conservative. But that man is as honest as anything i've do with him.

Jim langford, who wrote the the big piece of the immigration bill I serve with him, that guy is the most conservative persons ever meet up, but he's also one of the most honorable. Some of these people need to be put in a position where they truly have the ability influence things because they are ethical and and they care about this country. And I think that's, but I think that's something that really sets her apart to make a high profile appointment to the two or three.

Yes, folks, you care about the country. And let us look, I don't want to be surrounded by people. I in my organization, my folks know that i'll says something, say, you know, i'll do respect governor.

That is a horrible idea. We should not do that. And i'm my, okay, good. Thank you for stopping me from doing that. horrible.

I think I need away.

giving away S, U, V or the river.

I need to know before you leave, what kind of snacks are on the plane or the car or the.

or the year.

what settles you? Yeah, yeah. I just irritate and I don't do IT to irritate my my pei an a beef jerky. Is my things home made beef jerky and booted giggs in laws made some and he brought me some. And I like the idea of a friend bringing you homemade beef jerky and know if that pleases you more than anything.

That's that's all right. Well, listen, we just can't thank you enough for for the trust to to sit with us and and and your time. Um we're such big fans and we wish you the best of luck and and safety out there on the trail and and bring us bring us that w we're going to do everything we can and um just couldn't be thrilled more thrill you think all .

we are really honor and your authentic self is just shines through and and where that that authenticity is so we're freshly a great .

this was big deal for me, you guys. Thank you for having me on a big, big, big van and recited all you. thank.

That was great.

Thank you. You guys are the best. Hey, I didn't get in on this.

I heard you guys often when you're talking, you talk in the golf stuff. This is a thing, honest to god. I don't know, you know this. So I grew up in those that really small town, sand Green golf, three best Green food.

you know, IT.

I like sand Green. Gov.

you gotta hear this, this. So settle up against some people.

Yes, so you grew up. You grew up in the brash.

I did small town.

and he played golf there.

played golf. And like everybody play golf. Farmers, everybody in IT way. IT wasn't country clip golf. IT was sand Green golf. What IT is is the Greens are made out of sand, and the oiled with vegetable oil, they were oiled with oil, which was not at.

think what they do in the middle ast. And in australia.

you you rake the .

Green with a path, and then you pot, and then you rake IT again to put rides in IT. And there are little like post each stamp size Greens, but it's a whole different game. But I hear you guys talk a lot about golf a and golf.

Once you've and you want to take a little break, Jason and I will meet you in the best. Let's go a place of sanger off.

I'm more and even harder now.

We got a thanks for you.

Thank you to get absolutely .

thank.

Boy, that fell out, I mean, he he is, this is a good name. And in my opinion.

yes, in my opinion is, well, you immediately he's the dad I always want to .

and I know that there are a lot of people out there who you don't want you and I so I get using in my opinion but you the one thing you can't knock is the guy's authenticity yeah yeah it's just a such an authentic real person and it's great talking um how can you .

not like that? Ah sure you can not you can disagree with some of these policies um i'm sure. But i'm just i'm so excited about the prospect of simply just having somebody represent me and the country I love that i'm not sort of worrying about them saying something mean, nasty, offensive. I just .

just .

heard a guy I like to call my representative. I'm just right.

I would be proud of guy out there to enrich himself or protect himself and use use the officers as a way to avoid prosecution, right? Yes, I mean, really, truly is just so not self serving. It's the opposite.

It's it's public service, right? Yeah the so is pretty. I think the most done thing was seeing my Terry there at the end who works with that .

he was there the room yes.

that he was there .

with .

interesting no resting. But I like you guys did you guys, did you guys have have any questions that you didn't get to.

that you wanted to? I anted to make this thing there. Some fake fun reading emails were going. He, yeah.

because we all get out about IT, yeah.

but we get these fake ones that are coming from them and they wanted to address some thing that I think they're working on IT. And yeah.

yes, it's going to be hard to track. I want to know like a lot of awful .

people out there. I want to know what like bad, like TV shows. He watches her. I said, I wanted to know, like, if he has like a little game on his phone that when he has little quiet moment, like, like, we do IT like world all or something and I got one really.

He's like, he's a pretty full plate.

I know.

but you two minutes you have .

to be able a bit exactly like even if he just like going into the bathroom and like just sit down, you know like not not even like take your pants sound but just like hiding in a stalled somewhere just to gets me .

quiet yeah yeah right right I know right I know how he feels. Ah can I can go anywhere? I know it's sweet, hard. Oh but isn't that a good idea though you guys to do to you know foxie and and IT does not matter who you are to split, instead of showing a map of this is all red, this is all blue day, just cut IT and happen shows the percentages of each.

Well, they do. Actually, the great Steve corn cki will go in there, and he will and IT will expand, and you will see sort of the micro of each of these districts and states, and you will see that how IT is sort of.

you know, split out inside the right start to leaving. Because when you look at when you put .

IT up against population.

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