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Kerry Johnson: 特朗普面临新的弹劾指控,但指控内容因最高法院的裁决而有所调整,移除了关于滥用司法部以推动虚假选举欺诈指控的部分,并专注于特朗普作为候选人而非总统的行为。佛罗里达州的另一项指控则被驳回,但检察官正在上诉。其核心指控依然是共谋欺诈美国和剥夺数百万2020年选民的权利,但具体细节有所不同,这是因为最高法院上个月做出的具有里程碑意义的裁决赋予了特朗普和未来的总统们很大的权力,可以使用他们的官方权力。最大的变化是,关于特朗普滥用司法部以试图推动其虚假的选举舞弊指控的指控消失了。同样消失的还有据称试图在司法部内部执行这些努力的特朗普官员,即律师杰弗里·克拉克。他曾被列为共谋者四号,但现在所有被指控的共谋者都是当时不在特朗普政府工作的人,以及以私人身份行事的人。这一点很重要,因为保守派最高法院的裁决特别赋予了总统对司法部的很大权力。这些新的指控还具体说明了检察官认为特朗普何时以候选人的身份,即寻求政治职位的人的身份行事,而不是以总统的身份行事。这也符合最高法院在豁免案中的裁决。对总统的核心行为有很多保护,但对候选人或寻求个人利益的人则没有。佛罗里达州的另一项案件,即指控特朗普在其佛罗里达州度假胜地囤积机密文件并拒绝将其归还给联邦调查局的案件,已被法官艾琳·坎农驳回,理由是司法部任命特别检察官杰克·史密斯的做法违宪。检察官们正在对这一裁决提出上诉。 Quill Lawrence: 特朗普竞选团队在阿灵顿国家公墓违反规定,与公墓官员发生冲突。特朗普此举引发争议,因为他此前也曾因对退伍军人的言论而饱受批评。在访问阿灵顿国家公墓期间,特朗普竞选团队的工作人员与公墓官员发生了冲突。政治活动在公墓是非法的,随后特朗普竞选团队的两名工作人员与试图执行规定的阿灵顿官员发生了冲突。阿灵顿公墓的工作人员将自己视为在守护这个国家最神圣的土地。特朗普出席了纪念2021年在阿富汗丧生的13名士兵的仪式。尽管特朗普竞选官员否认这一点,但据报道,一些特朗普竞选工作人员没有遵守与阿灵顿官员达成的协议。至少有一张照片被分发出去,照片显示前总统和金星家庭成员站在60区的一块墓碑旁。特朗普竞选发言人史蒂芬·钟发表声明称,没有发生所描述的身体冲突,如果提出这种诽谤性说法,我们将准备发布录像。事实是,一位私人摄影师被允许进入场地,由于某种原因,一个显然患有精神健康问题的未具名个人决定在一次非常庄严的仪式上对特朗普总统团队成员进行身体阻拦。特朗普竞选团队没有提供他们所说的拥有的视频。阿灵顿国家公墓发表声明称,联邦法律禁止在陆军国家军事公墓内进行政治竞选或与选举相关的活动,包括摄影师、内容创作者或任何其他为党派政治候选人的竞选目的或直接支持其竞选而参加的人员。阿灵顿国家公墓向所有参与者重申并广泛分享了这项法律及其禁令。我们可以证实发生了一起事件,并且已经提交了报告。特朗普与残疾退伍军人和阵亡士兵的言论存在争议。一些他的前工作人员表示,特朗普称阵亡的二战士兵是失败者和傻瓜,因为他们在没有个人利益的情况下战斗和牺牲。特朗普否认这些言论,但就在今年,他还嘲笑已故的约翰·麦凯恩无法完全举起胳膊。麦凯恩因在越南战争中被俘而永久残疾。就在这个月,他还将一位他授予总统自由勋章的共和党巨额捐赠者与获得荣誉勋章的人进行了比较,其中许多人都埋葬在阿灵顿。 Becky Sullivan: 2024年残奥会即将在巴黎举行,预计将有4400多名运动员参加近200个项目,比赛将展现运动员克服挑战的精神和非凡的运动能力,美国队虽然并非绝对优势,但仍有夺牌希望。在接下来的一个半星期里,大约4400名运动员将在巴黎残奥会上参加近200个项目。这些运动员都克服了人生中的一些巨大挑战,无论是肢体截肢还是疾病夺走了他们的视力。比赛项目包括田径、游泳等,美国队将派出200多名运动员参赛,但要击败中国队夺得奖牌榜首位可能比较困难。一个例子是来自康涅狄格州的24岁游泳运动员艾莉·特鲁伊特,她在毕业后不久被鲨鱼咬伤,不得不截肢,但她克服困难,重返泳池,将在巴黎残奥会上参加三个不同的游泳项目。

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Former President Trump faces new indictment in the federal election interference case following a Supreme Court ruling granting him substantial immunity. The indictment focuses on Trump's actions as a candidate rather than president. Meanwhile, the Justice Department appeals a judge's dismissal of the classified documents case.
  • New indictment focuses on Trump's actions as a candidate.
  • Charges related to Trump's misuse of the Justice Department were dropped.
  • Justice Department appeals dismissal of classified documents case.

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While visiting Arlington National Cemetery, Trump campaign staff got into an altercation with a cemetery official. It's not the first time Trump has faced controversy over veterans. So what happened in Virginia? I'm Michelle Martin. That's A. Martinez. And this is Up First from NPR News.

Trump's legal troubles continue. Special Counsel Jack Smith has filed a new indictment in the election interference case. Plus, there's an upcoming appeal in the Mar-a-Lago documents case. Neither case is likely to go forward if Trump wins election again. And Olympic fever goes on in Paris with the Paralympic opening ceremony tonight. Thousands of athletes living with disabilities go for gold. Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day.

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The Justice Department has obtained a new indictment in the federal election interference case against former President Donald Trump. The move comes weeks after the Supreme Court gave the former president substantial immunity from prosecution. NPR Justice Correspondent Kerry Johnson has been following the case. Kerry, so why are we seeing a new indictment against Donald Trump?

The core charges in this D.C. case are the same, conspiracy to defraud the United States and to deprive millions of 2020 voters of their rights. But some key specifics are different, and that's because of the landmark Supreme Court decision last month that gave Trump and future presidents a lot of leeway to use their official powers.

The special counsel, Jack Smith, said in court papers that this latest action was really an effort to respect and implement the Supreme Court holdings. So you mentioned some specifics are different. So what's new in this indictment?

The single biggest change is that allegations about Trump misusing the Justice Department to try to promote his bogus claims of election fraud, those are now gone. And so is the Trump official who allegedly tried to carry out those efforts inside the Justice Department. That's a lawyer named Jeffrey Clark.

He had been listed as co-conspirator number four, but now all the alleged co-conspirators are people who did not work in the Trump administration at the time and people who were acting in a private capacity. That's important because the ruling by the conservative Supreme Court specifically gave a president a lot of power over the Justice Department and

These new charges also specify when prosecutors think Trump was acting as a candidate, as a person seeking political office, and not as the president. That, too, would be in line with how the Supreme Court ruled in the immunity case. Lots of protection for the core acts of a president, but not for candidates or people seeking personal benefit. Okay, now Trump has already pleaded not guilty to these charges, so what happens now?

Normally, there's an arraignment on these kinds of new charges, but prosecutors say they are not going to demand that Trump show up in person for that. The Justice Department and Trump's legal team already had a deadline of Friday to update the trial judge in this case about how they wanted to proceed. For his part, Trump posted on social media these charges are ridiculous and that it's an effort to resurrect a dead witch hunt. After that Supreme Court decision last month, there's no chance that Donald Trump would have faced trial before the election.

If he wins in November, he could order the DOJ to dismiss this case. But if he loses at the ballot box, all this legal wrangling could get even more intense. And some former prosecutors anticipated these new charges and interviews with me, but they told me weeks ago they thought the Justice Department might add some new defendants.

That did not happen this time, but it might if the case survives into next year. One more thing, Carrie. There's been some action in the other case that Jack Smith filed against Donald Trump, this one in Florida. What's happening with that one? Yes. Judge Eileen Cannon, who was appointed by Trump, dismissed that entire classified documents case. She said the way the Justice Department appointed the special counsel, Jack Smith, was unconstitutional. So she threw out the whole case, the one that accused Trump of

stockpiling classified documents at his Florida resort and refusing to return them to the FBI. This week, prosecutors offered new details about their appeal. They told the 11th Circuit Appeals Court Judge Cannon had gotten the law wrong again and again. They said there's a 150-year tradition of appointing special prosecutors by the Justice Department. And they said that now-Conservative Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh called it a deeply rooted tradition.

NPR Justice Correspondent Kerry Johnson. Kerry, thanks for sorting this out. My pleasure. In addition to Trump's legal woes, his visit to Arlington National Cemetery did not go as planned. Trump attended a ceremony honoring 13 troops killed in Afghanistan in 2021. And although Trump campaign officials deny this, NPR's Quill Lawrence has learned that some staffers with the Trump campaign did not follow an agreement made with Arlington officials.

Political activity is illegal at the cemetery, and what followed was an altercation between two Trump campaign staffers and an official at Arlington trying to enforce the rules. Quill Lawrence is here now. Quill, tell us what happened. What'd you find out?

Arlington cemetery officials had made their rules clear in advance of the visit, specifically that only an official cemetery photographer would be allowed in Section 60, and that's where U.S. fallen from Iraq and Afghanistan are mostly buried. When Trump's motorcade arrived, along with some Gold Star family members whose loved ones are buried there, the campaign tried to bring a staffer to film and take photographs into Section 60, and an Arlington cemetery official tried to prevent that, and

And she was verbally abused and pushed aside. At least one of those photos has been distributed showing the former president and the Gold Star family members next to a tombstone in Section 60. Okay, so what has the Trump campaign said about this?

Spokesman Stephen Chung sent us a statement saying, quote, there was no physical altercation as described and we're preparing to release footage if such defamatory claims are made. The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason, an unnamed individual clearly suffering from a mental health episode decided to physically block members of President Trump's team during a very solemn ceremony. The Trump campaign would not provide us with that video they say they have.

Have we heard from Arlington National Cemetery about this? Yes, last evening, an Arlington official provided this statement to NPR saying,

Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries to include photographers, content creators, or any other persons attending for purposes or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign. Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants. We can confirm there was an incident and a report was filed. That's the end of their quote. But I should add the staff at Arlington see themselves as

guarding some of the most hallowed ground in this country. - Sure, sure. Quill, what's the background here? Why was Donald Trump even attending the ceremony?

So it was the third anniversary of a suicide bombing attack that killed 13 U.S. troops and more than 100 Afghan civilians desperately trying to flee Kabul in the mess that was the American pullout in 2021. Former President Trump has been blaming President Biden and Vice President Harris more recently for the decisions on Afghanistan. And Trump was invited to attend a wreath laying there,

Many of the families of the troops killed that day have publicly blamed Biden for the chaotic withdrawal. You know, Trump has a controversial history with comments about disabled veterans, though, and about fallen soldiers. Some of his former staff have said Trump has

called fallen World War II troops losers and suckers for fighting and dying when they had no personal gain at stake. Trump denies these comments, but even this year he mocked the late John McCain for not being able to raise his arms fully. You know, McCain was permanently disabled from his time as a prisoner of the war in Vietnam. And just this month he compared a Republican mega-donor he'd given the Presidential Medal of Freedom to with recipients of the Medal of Honor, many of whom are buried there at Arlington.

NPR's Quill Lawrence. Quill, thank you for your reporting on this. Thanks. Olympic fever continues. Over the next week and a half, about 4,400 athletes will compete in nearly 200 events during the Paralympic Games that begin tonight in Paris. NPR's Becky Sullivan will be following it all. Becky, the opening ceremony is tonight. What should we expect over the next couple of weeks?

You know, it will be so much more of what was fun a few weeks ago, just amazing athletic feats, more incredible Paris scenery. But this time, obviously, the thousands of athletes who are participating have all overcome some, you know, tremendous challenge in their life, whether it's amputation of their limbs or disease taking away their eyesight. And so in doing so, it'll be even more amazing to watch them compete. There's 22 different sports in the Paralympics, most of which have an Olympic equivalent. So it should be familiar to watch for any first-time viewers.

And a lot of the events like track and swimming races have a bunch of iterations. And so there'll be a hundred meter race for runners with one amputated leg, one for runners with two, others for runners with visual impairment, et cetera. So lots of events in total to watch. Hey, Becky, it's all sports. It's more sports. I'm all in no matter what. So how much interest is there in the Paralympics this year?

You know, usually there is a bit less for the Paralympics than for the Olympic Games, but the goal is always to have them be the same, have them be as close as possible. So organizers in Paris report that about 2 million tickets have been sold so far, which is on track for the second highest total ever. And then on TV, of course, NBC saw a massive viewership jump for the Olympics during the summer games. And so obviously they're hoping to see the same for the Paralympics. There will be less of it on TV, but still all of it will be streaming too.

Yeah, the U.S. dominated at the Olympics. So how do you think Americans will do at the Paralympics? You know, the Americans aren't quite the powerhouse at the Paralympics that they are at the Olympic Games. And they used to totally dominate, but now haven't for quite some time. And so China is the dominant force when it comes to the summer Paralympics. They regularly top the medal table. Events like wheelchair basketball and wheelchair rugby are where the U.S. has an edge.

The U.S. is sending more than 200 athletes, so there are a lot of opportunities here. But I do think that aiming to beat China in the medal count is probably out of reach. And you're so right about the personal stories that we hear at the Paralympics. I mean, we hear that at the Olympics as well, but this one has just an added layer. What are some of the things that you're going to be keeping your eye on? You know, there are, like you say, I mean, there's just so many amazing stories here. Truly, I was trying to come up with them.

decided which one to talk about this morning. I can't name them all, but here I'll just pick one. Her name is Allie Truitt. She's a 24-year-old swimmer from Connecticut. She had been a competitive swimmer all her life. She graduated last year from Yale. And then a few days after graduation, she went on a trip with some friends to the Caribbean Sea. And she was snorkeling when she was bitten by a shark and had to have her left leg amputated below the knee.

That was just over a year ago. This summer in Paris, she'll be competing in three different swimming events. And I think it's just amazing because it would be understandable, you know, to have been bitten by a shark to be, you know, you might be scared to get back in the water, even when it's just a pool after something like that. But she went through therapy, was able to physically recover and get back up to competitive form. And now she's totally reclaimed that space for herself in the pool.

I was trying to do the physical rehabilitation math that you were describing there. That is amazing. It's incredible. Absolutely amazing. Yeah, I can't wait to see that. NPR Sports Correspondent Becky Sullivan. Becky, thanks. You're welcome.

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