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FBI Director Wray To Step Down, U.S. Life Expectancy, DNC Seeks New Leadership

2024/12/12
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Steve Inskeep和A. Martinez:报道了FBI局长克里斯托弗·雷辞职的消息,以及总统当选人特朗普希望任命对他更忠诚的人选。这引发了人们对FBI未来独立性的担忧。 Ryan Lucas:详细解释了雷局长辞职的原因,他表示此举是为了避免让FBI卷入更激烈的政治斗争,维护FBI的独立性和客观性。他还谈到了特朗普对雷辞职的反应以及对被提名人卡什·帕特尔的评价。帕特尔被认为是特朗普的忠实拥护者,并公开表示要打击特朗普眼中的政治敌人,这引发了民主党人的担忧。 Selena Simmons-Duffin:讨论了美国较低的预期寿命问题,指出这不仅是医疗保健系统的问题,还包括饮食、缺乏运动、儿童贫困和交通事故等多种因素。她还特别提到了枪支暴力和阿片类药物流行对美国预期寿命的影响。 Stephen Fowler:报道了民主党全国委员会即将举行会议,讨论选举结果以及选择新领导层的问题。他指出,许多民主党人希望下一任全国委员会主席能够加强基层组织工作、候选人招募和筹款工作,并帮助各州的党派,尤其是在共和党控制的州。 Steve Inskeep和A. Martinez:报道了FBI局长克里斯托弗·雷辞职的消息,以及总统当选人特朗普希望任命对他更忠诚的人选。这引发了人们对FBI未来独立性的担忧。 Ryan Lucas:详细解释了雷局长辞职的原因,他表示此举是为了避免让FBI卷入更激烈的政治斗争,维护FBI的独立性和客观性。他还谈到了特朗普对雷辞职的反应以及对被提名人卡什·帕特尔的评价。帕特尔被认为是特朗普的忠实拥护者,并公开表示要打击特朗普眼中的政治敌人,这引发了民主党人的担忧。 Selena Simmons-Duffin:讨论了美国较低的预期寿命问题,指出这不仅是医疗保健系统的问题,还包括饮食、缺乏运动、儿童贫困和交通事故等多种因素。她还特别提到了枪支暴力和阿片类药物流行对美国预期寿命的影响。 Stephen Fowler:报道了民主党全国委员会即将举行会议,讨论选举结果以及选择新领导层的问题。他指出,许多民主党人希望下一任全国委员会主席能够加强基层组织工作、候选人招募和筹款工作,并帮助各州的党派,尤其是在共和党控制的州。

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Key Insights

Why is FBI Director Christopher Wray stepping down?

Wray decided to resign at the end of the Biden administration to avoid dragging the FBI deeper into political turmoil and to ensure the Bureau's independence and commitment to the rule of law remain intact.

What has Trump said about Wray's resignation?

Trump called it a great day for America, viewing Wray's departure as the end of the weaponization of the justice system.

Who is Trump's nominee to replace Wray, and what are his prospects?

Trump's nominee is Kash Patel, a close ally seen as a loyalist who wants to dismantle the deep state and target perceived political enemies. His confirmation prospects are uncertain, but he is not generating significant blowback so far.

What is the current U.S. life expectancy compared to other countries?

U.S. life expectancy is 77.5 years, lower than the average of 80 years in high-income countries like Canada and Japan, putting it on par with countries like Ecuador and Croatia.

What factors contribute to the U.S. having a lower life expectancy?

Factors include poor diet, physical inactivity, child poverty, traffic fatalities, lax regulation of industries, and the opioid epidemic, which accounts for many deaths of young people.

What role does gun violence play in the U.S. life expectancy?

Gun deaths, especially among youth and midlife, significantly lower U.S. life expectancy. Guns are the leading cause of death for Americans under 17, contributing to about two years of the life expectancy gap compared to other countries.

What is the process for selecting the next Democratic National Committee chair?

The DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee will meet to finalize procedural details, followed by four forums in January where candidates can pitch their ideas. The vote will take place on February 1st.

What do Democrats want from their next party chair?

Democrats want a leader who can invest in year-round organizing, candidate recruitment, fundraising, and support for state parties, especially in Republican-controlled states. They also seek someone with experience in always-on campaigning.

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What does a change at the top mean for the FBI? Director Christopher Wray is resigning. President-elect Trump appointed him in 2017, but now he wants a nominee who promised retribution for Trump's critics. I'm Steve Inskeep with A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. Shooting an insurance executive in the back.

produced a disturbing response, and that includes real-life conversations about health care. So our correspondent pursues a question. Why do we spend so much on health care for a life expectancy that is comparatively low? And what do Democrats want from their next party chair? The Democratic National Committee is meeting in Washington over the next two days to reflect on the election results and hear pitches from candidates. Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day. ♪

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We now know how the FBI director will respond to the president-elect who wants to replace him. President-elect Trump appointed Christopher Wray during his first term back in 2017, but now Trump wants to nominate a loyalist, Kash Patel, and made it clear he wants Wray to go.

The director says he will step down at the end of the Biden administration next month and three years before the end of his term. NPR Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas is covering this story, and he's come by our studios very early this morning. Ryan, good to see you. Good morning. So how did Ray explain his decision?

Well, Ray made this announcement in a town hall that he had yesterday with FBI employees. And what he said is that he's given this a lot of thought, and he came to the conclusion that stepping down in January with the change in administration is the right thing to do for the FBI. He said this is the best way to avoid, as he put it, dragging the Bureau deeper into the fray. He also said this. This is not easy for me. I love this place. I love our mission, and I love our people.

But my focus is and always has been on us and on doing what's right for the FBI. Now, Ray said the FBI's work is critical. That won't change. And he also said that the FBI's commitment to independence, to objectivity and its defense of the rule of law, he says that those things must not change. Which, of course, Trump's critics fear. That's exactly what Trump wants to change with this new appointee. What has Trump said about Ray's decision? Well,

Well, Trump was quite happy with it. He called it a great day for America and said that Wray's departure means an end to what Trump says is the weaponization of the justice system. Now, Trump, of course, is the guy who made Chris Wray FBI director after he fired James Comey in 2017. Wray came on, tried to steady the FBI at what was a very tumultuous time. This job, of course, comes with a 10-year term, something that in theory is supposed to insulate it from partisan politics.

Wray certainly defended the Bureau's independence. He tried to keep it out of the political fights on Capitol Hill, but that was almost impossible to do with the sort of politically charged investigations that the FBI has been involved in over the past several years. And I'm thinking here of the Russia investigation, the investigation into the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol, the investigation into President Biden's son Hunter, and then, of course, there are the investigations into Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, as well as his handling of

mishandling of classified documents. Trump was and remains, as we noted at the top, a fierce critic of Wray and the FBI. But I have to say, he's not alone. Republicans on Capitol Hill have also soured on Wray over the seven years that he's led the FBI. Some of that relates to Trump and some of it is because of separate issues. Got it. Okay. So now the confirmation fight is over Kash Patel, the nominee to replace Wray. What are his prospects?

Well, look, Patel is a polarizing figure. He's a close ally of Trump. He worked at the Justice Department then on Capitol Hill and held several positions in the first Trump administration.

He is seen as a loyalist. He's talked a lot in public about dismantling the deep state, going after Trump's perceived political enemies. That includes in the FBI, the Justice Department, elsewhere in the government, but also in the media, something, of course, that Democrats are concerned about. Like Trump, Patel claims that the justice system has been weaponized against Trump and conservatives more broadly.

A lot of Republicans agree. They are frustrated with the FBI. They think it needs a shakeup. And they see Patel as someone who wants to do that. So at this point, at least, Patel doesn't appear to be generating the sort of blowback that some of Trump's other picks have. But we're still more than a month away from Trump's inauguration. So we're going to have to see how this all plays out. And Piers, Ryan Lucas will be covering it, whatever happens. Good to see you. Thanks, Steve.

At first, the targeted killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson triggered a flood of posts about America's health insurance industry. Yeah, even disturbing celebrations. Now, since suspect Luigi Mangione's arrest, some attention has turned to a handwritten note that police say they found on him. According to the AP, which obtained a copy, the note talked about the disconnect and

between the expensive health care system and low life expectancy in the United States. And that is something NPR's Selena Simmons-Duffin has reported on a lot, so she's here to tell us more about it. Selena, how long are Americans expected to live for?

Well, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's latest calculations put America's life expectancy at 77 and a half years. And that's quite low compared to the life expectancy for countries like Canada and Japan and Australia. The average for high income countries is 80 years. So at 77 and a half years, American life expectancy is on par with countries like Ecuador and Croatia. Okay. So what more does that figure tell us, though?

Well, life expectancy isn't just do elderly people live to 77 or 80, just a few years difference. It really captures people dying at all stages of life. And in the U.S., there are a few things that researchers say pull our life expectancy numbers down.

All of the problems everybody knows about, about how expensive and fragmented and frustrating our healthcare system is, that contributes, but it is not the whole story. Here is Dr. Stephen Wolfe of Virginia Commonwealth University, who's written a lot on this topic. Research shows that about 10 to 20% of health outcomes are attributable to healthcare. So the majority of the reason for

poor life expectancy in the United States exists outside of the healthcare space. Outside of the healthcare space. So, you know, what are those factors?

Well, there's everything from poor diet and physical inactivity to child poverty to traffic fatalities. It would be nice if there was just one simple answer, but the truth is it's really complicated. Wolf worked on a landmark report about 10 years ago on this. It's 400 pages long. It's called Shorter Lives, Poorer Health. He says public policies also play a role. For example, lax regulation of industries and products can lead to health problems.

We see it in the food industry. We see it in the firearm industry. The opioid epidemic began with the licensing of OxyContin, a drug that other countries throughout Europe and elsewhere would not approve.

Drug overdoses account for many deaths of young people, people in their prime. And that is one thing that drives U.S. life expectancy down compared to countries that don't have an opioid epidemic. But I heard Dr. Wolf mention the firearm industry. So what role does gun violence play?

Well, gun deaths in people in their youth and midlife is another big reason why the U.S. has lower life expectancy. Guns have been the leading cause of death for Americans under age 17 for several years now. One expert I've spoken with estimates that two years

years of the difference between the U.S. and other countries could be attributed to the ready availability of guns here. So there is an irony to this. The victim in this case, the case that sparked this conversation, UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, was only 50 years old when he was fatally shot. That's NPR's health policy correspondent, Selena Simmons Duffett. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you.

The next chair of the Democratic National Committee will have their work cut out for them. Yeah, the party lost control of the White House and the Senate and failed to retake control of the House of Representatives. They're also out of power in most states. Over the next two days, top DNC members will meet in Washington to discuss rules for picking new leadership and reflect on 2024. NPR's Stephen Fowler has been talking with Democrats across the country about last month's election results and also about what might come next.

So, Stephen, the future of the Democratic Party is probably not going to be solved in the next few months, but its leader will be. What's that process going to look like?

So today the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee meets. It's going to be very mundane. They're working through logistical things like how many signatures you need to be nominated for these positions, key deadlines, and other procedural stuff. There's also going to be four forums for leadership candidates in January ahead of the vote, both virtually and in person, for people to make their pitch ahead of the vote February 1st. It's

It's important to note, A, that those with a say here are not everyday Democrats, but rather about 450 Democratic lawmakers, elected committee members, activists, and state party chairs, like the head of the Mississippi Democrats, State Representative Sheck Taylor. He told me this week it's also important to note that Democrats aren't in the White House or in control of either chamber of Congress. And that means that the next DNC chairman will be able to rule this party, Carl Blum.

Which is actually pretty exciting if you choose the right person. So with that kind of power, though, I mean, what do these Democrats want from their next party chair?

The last few election cycles have seen the National Party fade in relevance and strategy. Campaigns and super PACs have taken the lead in highly specific and very expensive battleground races. But Taylor's one of several Dems that I've spoken with who say that there's growing recognition that the DNC has to invest more into things like year-round organizing and candidate recruitment and fundraising, and to help state parties, especially in Republican-controlled states, with those efforts too,

That's an area that Shosti Conrad, chair of the Washington State Democrats, says she wants to focus on as she runs for a vice chair position. We have got to move the money out of the beltway.

It cannot just stay in the same sort of consultant class that have been getting it wrong over and over and over again. There's also a feeling among a lot of party leaders I've spoken with that the next DNC chair needs to be someone with experience leading that type of always-on campaigning style. So it is no surprise that two of the leading candidates are current state party chairs as well. That's Ken Martin of Minnesota and Ben Wickler of Wisconsin.

Stephen, I mean, right after the election, there was a lot of finger pointing about what went wrong and what could be changed. So it's been a month. How are Democrats feeling now?

Uh, depends on who you ask. Electing a new head of the party is not going to magically solve the political issues laid bare in November's election. But a look under the hood shows that 2024 did not create a mandate for Republicans or sound a death knell for Democrats. I mean, control of the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives came down to a very, very small number of votes spread across a very few number of districts and areas. All of this is because of the

Also, a Donald Trump is Donald Trump. Democrats already have nearly a decade's worth of a playbook they feel they can use to win back more voters, both Democrats that stayed home and those that might have voted for a Republican this time. That's NPR's Stephen Fowler in Atlanta. Stephen, good to talk to you again. Thank you.

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