Unlock Your Brain’s Hidden Power: 6 Tools to Boost Focus, Confidence, and Creativity
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Hey, each friend male and welcome to the male Robin's podcast. Today you and I are gonna get to learn from and be inspired by the remarkable doctor, jeff. Now, doctor carp is the founder of one of the world's most renowned and prolific research labs, the carp lab.

He's a filleted with harvard medical school M I T brigg hamn women's hospital. His research has resulted in one hundred and seventy peer review studies, thirty five thousand citarum, putting him at one of the point one percent of all researchers, period. And i'm telling you this because in the field of medical and scientific research, he's like the top, top, top.

I love this guy. And he's taken a break from his lab, hopped on his bike. He is written here to our studios in downtown boston.

Why for you? He has come because he's dialed his life experience and all of the cutting edge science that he's working on into a bunch of simple takeaway that you can use to activate the deeper potential that lies within you. I mean, I was just talking with him. He's like a modern day Albert einstein with a huge heart and a passion for helping people unleash the biological potential of your creativity and a mate, brainpower and curiosity. So get ready because we're going na reign your life with doctor card.

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Hey, your friend male, I am so fired up today. Can you tell that i'm fired up today? Well, before I tell you why I fired up, let me just first welcome you to the world of his forecasts.

IT is always such an honor to spend time with you to be together. I also want to say, if your brand new, welcome to the male Robin's fod cast family. Because you're listening to this episode, I know you're the type of person who values your time, and you're also interested in learning about ways you can improve your life.

Well, today, holy smokes, we're going to do that because you and I are going to spend some time learning from the incredibly inspiring doctor, jeff carp. Now you may not have heard of him because he's so busy revolutionizing science, but trust me, after today, you'll know exactly what he's all about. And what he's about is innovation, creativity and possibility.

Doctor jeff carp is a medical genius who teaches at M. I. T.

Harvard medical school, briga and widness. And his ground breaking innovations are transforming the future of healthcare. He is driven by a passion to improve patients lives. His team has invented technologies that have LED to the formation of thirteen different companies.

These inventions include tissue glue that can seal holes inside a beating heart, targeted therapies for I can even say that words i'm not going to, but chronic disease, I can. And brain discourse, he's way mark than me, so I don't have to say these words because he's gonna help me with them. Cancer fighting immense there.

I can even say that were either this is going to a hell of a conversation. But doctor jeff carp have a huge chart. He also has a hundred and seventy peer reviewed studies that have been cited thirty five thousand times.

And he holds over a hundred patterns for his inventions. And one thing I want to say, red at front. This is not an episode about all the scientific breakthrough. This lab, like, I think that stuff is really cool, and you're going to learn a little.

This is really an episode about how doctor carr had this life changing epiphone y and how he took the same things he was learning in his lab about innovation and creativity and tapping into whole new possibilities and discover these simple tools that he's used in his life that ignited a whole new possibility for him in his marriage, with his kids, in his data date life. And here's the cool part, these same tools that created more connection and presence actually made a more successful and productive at work, too. And so today, doctor carp has stepped out of the lab and into your life in a really big way to teach you what he calls these simple life ignition tools. So please help me welcome doctor jeff carb to them about Robin's forecast.

I'm so excited to be here.

Thank you so much. And i'm very impressed that you actually hoped on a bike and rode over from your lab just you across the river yeah .

am a met the bring of a woman's hospital and i'm still wearing my bike shoes.

Well, i'd love to start by having you speak directly to the person who is listening and tell them what they might expect to have change about their life if they truly take to heart everything that you are about to share with. And teachers today.

Yeah thank you for that question and thank you for tuning into this um I oh my goodness wow IT. There are schools i'm going to share today that have literally transformed my life. They've transformed so many moments that have taken me from being in a rut, from hitting a platow, from being disconnected from my family and friends um from being on a path where I just feel like i'm trapped in a cage and life is out of control and today i'm going to share tools that have literally put up my life and allowed me to get on a path of intentionality, infuse creativity into every day to help me lead with curiosity, to connect deeply with the people that I love and care about and to attune to rhythms of life and and connect deeply with nature I want that .

can you put that in a powder that I can put my drink? I am really excited you're here. And one of the reasons why is that docker carp, you run one of the most successful and accredited research labs in the entire world when your lab is looking at everything from cancer research to heart tissue repair, and you've taken everything that you've learned as a researcher, r and a scientist, and all of this experience on the cutting edge of medical innovation, and you've applied IT to your life.

And you've come up with these things that you call life ignition tools that absolutely anyone can use to tap into their potential to improve their life, to be happier. And so excited to learn about these simple tools. But before we jump into the life ignition tools, could you just tell the person listening a little bit more about the kind of work that your lab does and what you're excited about?

absolutely. Um so my lab is literally focused on the process of medical problem solving. It's an ever evolving process, is highly iteration. And the major focus is how can we make academic discoveries and move them as quickly as possible to patients. And we do this like based on a lot different things.

One is the lab composition, which all talk a little bit about today, and just how we approach problems, how we infuse fresh energy, how we disrupt your thinking and single sort of possibilities that we might find ourselves within. And this has allowed us to create all sorts of technologies that are in clinical trials and have actually made IT to patients. For example, uh, we developed a nasal spray in the lab that we demonstrated could um neutralize uh like ninety nine point nine nine percent covered nineteen h one n one influenza a and B A form pomona.

So that's like one example. We developed a needle that can stop in between the layers of the eye to deliver gene therapy to the back of the eyes. Really difficult to get drugs to the back of the eye for macular generation and that's on route to a clinical trial. We've developed therapies to aniela cancer um therapies for Oscar and it's really like a playground, if you will, um people from all over the world, the people with tons of different experiences um and backgrounds and expertise. But we really have a north star for every project which is to help patients as quickly as .

we can you doctor carr, you're one of the most innovative minds and award winning researchers alive today. And i'm just curious if you can talk a little bit more about how you run your life and how you run your lab and the role of creativity and how you use creativity in Sparking innovation in your lab. I mean, how do you get people to tap into the full potential of their own brain power when they're doing research for you?

I think creativity is one of these life forces. It's something that um we can tap into its something that we all born with.

It's something that is flattened by our society and perhaps through the education system depending on you know where we are educated and the circumstances um but I think you know with this sort of algorithmic lifestyle that we all lead, so me my mind wow yes because creativity it's it's like to me it's so exciting because we we all have this ability to tap into creativity and when we do, we surprise ourselves. Like IT is literally like this thing that just likes us up when we tap into IT. And and I think that it's magnetic, there's gravity to IT.

When somebody is being creative, IT just attracts other people. Yeah think everyone wants like how would you doing? Like h that's so interesting how to think of like magical creativity.

And so for my laboratory, you know, it's like it's one thing to try to make academic discoveries, to then take those discoveries and turn ament to products that can help patients. So like the level of difficulty just escalate. And so i'd spent a lot of time sort of um trying to figure out actually experiment in my laboratory with processes to maximize creativity。

So one of the things that i've noticed is that the lab composition is critical for creativity OK, until i've tried intentionally on purpose to limit the overlap and expertise. Most laboratories you have the same kind of expert. Everyone in the lap has the same expertise.

What i've noticed is that if we minimize the overlap, that we can really leverage the power of thinking differently, and that the Sparks of creativity just start flying. Like in the lab, we've had a material scientists, BIOS s. We've a gaston testing surgeon, a cardio surgeon, we've had a dentist in the lab is constantly changing.

And I think when you start interacting with people who think differently, who have different skills, who had people from thirty different countries in the lab, and when you're from a different country, you have a different education system, so you think differently of different wiring, of different experiences. And to me, that's how you start to generate the Sparks of creativity and something else that I experimented with. My lab, which actually was like transformational, was I set up, uh, and i'd hadn't seen this before, but I just was like, we I need to somehow figure out how to get things more creative and people to connect. And so I thought, okay, presentation competitions.

So I came up with this idea that you're giving me anxious quit. But so you have like presentation competitions at work, yes, in this like world round academic research lab.

yes. And then there's there's some guide post. So you can't present on your research.

You have to present on something that is one of your passions or one of your interests OK, or something you're curious about. I love IT. And the goal is to take risks.

This is a safe environment where no one's gonna shamed and everyone's in the boat. From like a high school student to A P H D to to a state. And everybody presents for three minutes. And then afterwards the questions are focused on constructively.

What could you do to improve your talk? What um did you really like about the talk? And then at the end, I give prizes for and people of everyone vote, I don't vote.

And who gave the best presentation, who took the most risk and who gave the best constructive feedback. And we've had people in the lab couldn't have expected this. Somebody did a rap about the hamburger restaurant in boston.

Somebody showed up in a wet suit and talked about surfing. Somebody played guitar and had slides going behind that say anything during their talk. Um somebody spoke about this permaculture effort they did in their backyard with hundreds of edible plants.

Somebody talk to about a Bakery that their family had started and then had to shut down during covet, and they really want to set IT up again. And what happened was this created this consolation of energies where people, now where open, they were learning about other people's curiosity, what other people's interest were. And when you get people talking, when you get people connecting. IT creates this creative energy and is just this energy just starts to flow. And it's just been.

it's been unbeliever. I love this new. I love is i'm listening to. I'm jealous now. I want to be there. I want to feel that expansion and that connection and that creativity, and that brings us to the subject of your book, let, which is filled with all of these simple, proven, what you call life ignition tools that we can use with ourselves to unlock that kind of possibility and to Spark ideas and tap into our brain and shift we were at. And what exactly is a life ignition tool?

A life signal tool is a strategy, a way to tap into something that you don't see in this very moment, something that could illuminate not just this moment, but your entire life.

Or it's like there's all this hidden potential, and these life ignition tools unlock IT the unlocked .

and everybody has access to IT. These tools allow you to access your evolutionary inheritances.

What is my evolutionary inherent?

Your evolutionary inheritance is the biology that you have that working for you. It's the ability to sense the world, the ability to make decisions, the ability to evolve and to learn and to be inspired and to sense of and to tap into creativity. It's what we all have access to. And when we tap into IT, not only doesn't light up our lives, IT lights up the lives of everybody around us.

You know, what's so exciting about this conversation is that it's so easy to get buried alive by your to do list and to get drawn into social media and to feel like you're just on autopilot and you're barely surviving and overwhelmed with worry and the things that you need to do, that you forget that there is an evolutionary design inside of you that you can tap into your own creativity, what you just said. And these are the tools that help us cut through modern life and unlock that for ourselves.

exactly.

Oh my god, let's dive in. What is the first life ignition tool that you wanted share with us today?

One of the tools that like is do know because every moment there's limitless possibilities and we don't see those possibilities because of a lot of different reasons. I think one of the major reasons is that, you know, when we're Younger, everything is new to us. You know, we first time crawling, first time walking.

Every great is a completely different experience. Every sport, everything's completely new. But as we get older, we lead these algorithms lifestyles, we wake up the same time, we have the same breakfast, we go to work at the same time, we scroll social media at the same time, we go to the same side, we interact with the same people, you know same friend group.

And so there's not that much new in our lives. And when you start to infuse new in your life, and you know, we do have this fear, we have this hesitant, do new. But when you start to do IT IT just illuminates everything.

I love that. I love that. So it's almost as if these tools that you're teaching us, these life ignition tools, right?

Yeah, unlock greater possibility. They interrupt the patterns that you've gotten used to as an adult in your life, and they tap into something different. How do you use the tool? Do no, do different in your life. Give me an example.

There are so many ways that I use this one example actually just something i've been practicing recently um just to intercept a rumination and to um to just shift my mind is I visualize right and this is just one of many possibilities are .

to do new people. We're not going to like worry about everything is happening. We're not going to run on that negative loops when that happens.

We're going to use this tool from darker car. We're going to do no, do different. What do you do? What do you like? K, O, K, so he's past me. What these glasses are like, these the glasses you put on when you .

go to the IMAX movie or movie OK put is really to do. And again, it's like a mind to shift your mind to change your frame.

I'm putting on glasses and look around, oh, it's making all the lights have rainbows. It's like a prism lens. Everything turns into a rainbow IT makes me feel like you've just handed me so aside, there's something like these things are yes, we're like at a rave now so just imagine if you're listening yeah that you've put on glasses that tint the outside view you go from just looking at the screen to all of some things are pink, or their Amber or their purple or their whatever the sunglass lenses IT changes things. Why is this a tool that can help you ignite something?

This is a tool that can help you see your environment in a different way, like IT can get you out of one possibility and into another possibility. And there are so many different tools that we can engage to do that. And I think that there's lots of practices and rural and all kinds of things that we can engage.

And I think that's one of the limiting things about life is that we stay on one track for too long. And so when we put on these glasses and now we look at the lights and everything is rainbows, then that the nights are curiosity, right? We start thinking like, oh well how does that happen? And if you start turning your head, you can see the rainbow started moving.

You know doctor carb you thinking about is that in the news recently um tons of people all over the world have seen the northern lights for the first time I spent all over the news, particularly here in the united states and they're all of a sudden super far south and in all these environments what I find absolutely electrifying is this idea that you walk outside and with the naked eye, you don't necessarily see IT, but then you always sudden hold up your phone and the night camera screen.

And it's like this collider scope that is right, waiting for you to discover IT. And what I really am getting from you, doctor carp, is that all of these tools that your sharing with us are ways that you can see life in a completely different way, that you can tap into possibilities that are right there. Just like northern lites sometimes are right there, and you can see that. But if you use some of these tools and shift your perspective, IT opens up something completely different.

absolutely. It's it's like, let's say, um you're walking and you look up at the clouds, it's hard to see the moving. But if you stop and you look up at the clouds, then you can see the moving.

And when you notice the moving, IT has this, this, this is like, wow. And you can see them sort of joining with each other. And you know, as kids, kids can look up and see animals, but we can do that too, as adults.

And I like to do that because, again, it's a way of getting out of my mind. It's getting that I, you know, we always hear, like, get into the moment, be authentic. It's like, well, what's the process for doing that? And I agree, right? It's like, how do we what are the steps to get there? And to me, to get into the moment, if we stop walking and look up at the clouds and we start thinking about the clouds, we're totally in the moment.

It's true. It's a way to access all these principles. IT reminds me of one of the, uh, life signification tools you wrote about in the book called press pass.

Laying on the ground and looking at the clouds is an example of pressing pause. And then you see the world in a different place. But what is the power of the pause and how do you use this in your busy, busy, busy life?

yes. Um pause is so important um pressing pause. And we need a tool to slow down. We need a tool to tap into intuitive cues. We need a tool to allow our brains to sink up, to process information and experiences.

And so I noticed I was doing these back to back to back meetings all day long. I get to the other day, felt like i'd done maybe two marathon's of work that felt great. But there was something missing. I like there was something I couldn't put my my finger on IT.

And being someone who's, like, constantly tinkering with everything, I started to experiment with, okay, what if I take a break in between my meetings to that five minutes, ten minutes, and not a social media break or an email break or a texting break, but our true break where I do nothing, or I just go for a walk? And I started experimenting with IT. And what I noticed was transformational.

I would basically start thinking about something someone had told me, like a few weeks before, a few months before, and I would connect to what the person I just met with said, and i'd be like, wow, we should get together and me, because this could turn into something completely new. I wouldn't have had that thought, you know, I didn't press pass. And so it's like, we have so much information coming at us from every meeting we have, and a lot of its in our subconscious mind.

We need to take time for these thoughts to swallow around our mind, to process them and to kind of place them. And I found that my best thinking happens when I do that, when I actually pausing. And there is a um a neuroscientist that I spoke to actually interviewed for the book um and a musician moli garrion is her name and just amazing things that he said so he said actually it's in the pauses is when mind turns into matter.

So when we're learning, it's actually our grains aren't rewiring in the moments that like you know so much just you know engaging. It's actually when we use that, when the circuitry is really changing and the remodeling is occurring, you know like during sleep, for example. And he said, actually a lot of people, if they're practicing a so that a lot of people will do is if they have one hour, we'll just practice for the whole hour and he said, no, no, no, that's not the neuroscience shows.

That's not the best way to do IT, SHE said. The best way to do IT is practice for fifteen or twenty minutes, take a five or ten minute break, and then approach IT again. And this engage something called the startle effect.

And so the startle effect is where the next time that you approach something you clue into your attention is focused on what you forgot, right? So if I say you try to build the skill, you know, you learn something in twenty minutes and you go back, you realized what you forgot. And now because now you're playing IT again, that hyper focuses your brain on what you forgot and helps you to imprint whatever you're learning. And so by doing that over and over, that's how we start to rewire our brains and developed skills.

I've never thought about IT that way. I love how you take your scientific mind, and it's clearly of a huge heart, and you've combined IT into something simple that anyone can use. I need to take a quick pause. We can hear award from our extraordinary sponsors.

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Welcome back his friend melt Robin's. Today, you and our spending time with the extraordinary doctor, jeff carb, and he is teaching us all of these simple tools that are going to help you unlock your own ability to innovate, to change your life, to tap into possibility, to be more present. And there is so much to dig into the doctor carp, let's just jump back in. So I immediately thinking about my kids in guitar and having them, we know when they're practicing, sitting up their toiling away for an hour verses, trying to work on a peace, taking five minute break and then coming back to IT or anything that you want a master.

And so one of the ways you can apply the pause is by simply taking a five minute break between meetings and not actually working or going for a quick walk, or lying on the ground and looking at the clouds are taking a quick break as you're trying to learn a new skill, and or shutting yourself up in the middle of a conversation and not insert yourself like that. There is this need to slow our cells down. Why is IT so hard to bring ourselves to practice new skills or habits?

I think it's difficult to practice new skills because of the way that we practice. And that's why one of the tools is actually fall in love with practice. Because what I have found, right and through some of the people that i've spoke to and interviewed for the book is that practice can become monotonous really fast and we can become boring.

But there are just like with everything, there's limitless possibilities in the way that we can practice. And so um I interviewed the five times U. S. Memory champion Nelson dellis for the book and I specifically asked him, Nelson, how like at some points got to get boring, right? Like if you're just practicing the same thing over and over and over again. I said, what do you do? And he said, well, sometimes when I get to that state, he said, instead of like he would memorize like fifty .

two .

decades seconds, he could memorize like the whole thing and so I said.

what do you do that? Was he born with that skill? Or did he actually teach himself .

that he wasn't his? He had someone in his family, I think, was his grandmother who got else heim's. And he never thought he had good memory.

And he was concerned that that would be his fate. And he trained to memory games and learning how to yet build his memory. And so he told me that what he does is he will insert a few extra cards in the deck, so he'll changed IT up.

And he said that presents a new chAllenge to him that activate his mind. And IT makes IT more engaging, like when I was Younger and I was always the last chosen for sports at school, right? He was me in the other kid and aria.

Start to time.

And so I really want to get Better basketball. And I would go, and I would throw the ball and know just nothing, nothing platow like what I like, just anger and whatever.

And luckily, someone who saw me doing this and came up and said, here i'll show you, here i'll show you how to do IT and he said we're just gonna cus on the layup that's and I was probably, you know, maybe like eleven years old, ten and level and like that and he would just stand with me and I he would say, OK shoot IT there. Here's the angle he had to do your hand. And over time, I got Better at IT, like I was almost getting IT every single time.

And to me, that was shifting from the possibility of me just standing there trying to do on my own, having someone supportive there with me, showing me how to do IT. And so was just, I was engaging in. Another possibility is finding the process that works for you.

And when you start, the almost thing that I was like a nob, like is like click, click, click, click there IT is now i'm improving. And we need to be able to tune in to those incremental improvements in, in an incremental progress in order for us to continue to advance. And to me, it's like falling in love with practice.

Is the key to persistence is how we become persistent in anything in our life. If we can find ways to infuse joy into practicing, then we can keep that IT for longer, and we can be persistent. And we all know that you persistence is so important for progress.

IT makes me think about the fact that he took me a long time with my brain and a hd and dsl xian to do that. Click, click, click clo. This is IT.

And I do think we get into these patterns of believing that there's only one way to do something or the way that you've always done IT is the way that you should always do IT or that just because somebody else had success shooting the basketball a certain way, that that's how you do IT. And what I love about this tool, fall in love with practice, is one of the biggest practices in your life is experimenting with yourself. And for me, I don't write books by writing them. I talk IT out and then I edit transcripts, which is a form of writing. Another discovery that i've made about myself after carp is that i'm a reactor.

both emotionally .

and intellectual, but I am working on the emotional part. What I realized is the intellectual part is a superpower. If you ask me a series of questions, I can talk all day long. I can tap into this brain power and a decade of research in the work that i've been doing, and I can just almost go into a state where i'm speaking in tongues and am a human and cyclopedia. If you give me a piece of paper and you ask me to, like, just write a full page about a topic I can't do IT, yeah.

And so this idea form of the practice and give yourself room to experiment, what you're actually practicing on is what what works for you, what, unlike something in you, and that pursuit of being curious about IT and practicing and stumbling in the things is it's true. IT is what keeps you going back. Like I remember with our daughter, who's a singer song writer, one of her mentors at los Angeles said her, because kept on a gern piano, I got learn piano. SHE knows IT.

But you know, just like I most people, they they write music on piano is like, you have one of the best instruments on planet, each voice, why are you not humming milites? Why do you need to put IT on the piano? Why are you working against the thing that actually comes naturally? And I think a lot of us do that to ourselves.

We think we need to have our relationships look like everybody else. You think that the way that you do your work, product needs to kind of fall in line and giving yourself the space to tinker and practice taps to everything that you're trying to teach us. You have another tool, focus beyond failure. Why is failure so essential? Doctor carb, to unlocking your full potential.

Wow, i've experienced so many setbacks and you know, just nothing has ever coming easy to me. And I would say you the way I would describe IT really is that, let's say I and talking about my experience is just all of my experiences in life of a .

big failure have a big failure.

I have a lot of big failure. okay? So for example, I applied to medical school, got rejected from all three schools that applied to. I had so many failures. I was the kid in high school who got up to do a walkman sing and got booed off the stage right.

I'm decades um I tried out for to be on student council multiple times and I didn't get on, although I actually didn't get on in my final year of high school from pattern recognition. I figured some things out but yeah I almost visualize this like i'm in a boat. I'm trying to get to the end of the stream right and I am bumping into every single rock along the way, every overhanging branch.

I mean, that sort of like my experience with everything. And so one of the massive failures that I had is with ted met. I was invited, actually, jay Walker, the C E. O of Price line um was a cee of ted men. And he gave me a call and he said, hey, I would like to invite you to give a talk on your bio inspiration work, how you turn to nature for inspiration over to develop medical technologies. I initially said no because I was so frightened um I had not memorized anything since our school and I um but then I thought about and I was like, okay, I won't never be asked again to speak on stage and I went I said, yes.

And by the way, just for you listening, this is like part of the ted conference franchise. This is like academic super hero. This is the stage where all your peers are staring down at you.

This is global. This isn't like, come to the school basement and give a chat. Yeah, this is an invitation to stand before everybody in the medical research community globally and just firm go.

And what happened? So what happened was I practice like crazy. I rented out the credi auditorium in M. I, T, which is the biggest auditorium.

Um I presented to four people, my family who there and I knew that talk inside out was like fifteen minutes purely memorized. I slides at animations. I had to get the timing right.

I had to make IT look like I didn't memorize IT know like there was all these are of stages. And I was ready to go and I get to ted, met IT was at the Kennedy center and dc, and I practice my talk, and they suggest some changes. And i'm like, oh my god, I can't change IT now it's tomorrow.

So I try to figure out how and because of memorized IT, then we go on stage beforehand. There is sort of like walk through and they say, by the way, the clicker only goes forward. IT doesn't go back.

If you go too fast and hit IT, you know, you have to yell to the AV person. Can you go back like there? No way to that.

And they said, sometimes people freeze in the middle of their talk. They said, the two reactions that we've seen is when they run off the stage, they said, don't run off the stage of happens. The second reaction we've seen is people actually start crying. He said.

don't do that either. And the third reaction, you dump in your and pay.

i'm sure that time at some point and then they said, just stand there and smile and so I am like, you know, i'm ready to go like I get a pack a halls in my hand. I'm eating a mall right before I go up. I get up on stage.

I have IT so well memorized that I can think about other things. It's five high definition cameras on me being lifestream throughout the world. IT filled at this Kennedy center.

And D. C. The president of my institutions in the audience. And I get to the middle, my talk, and I think to myself, I missed the line.

There is a line that I forgot to say, and my mind couldn't get unhoped from that. And I stopped in the middle of IT for fifteen seconds. I said, nothing. Now, fifty seconds is a very long time to pause on this type of a stage. And stage .

put us in that moment. Yeah, what was happening for you?

Well, I was so nervous. I, you know, had this like visceral reaction where IT was like, this negativity came within me. I'm trying to think, okay, I can't run off the stage.

I can start crying. They want me to smile. The swear words are going through my head. I'm holding the clicker trying to like, use IT like a lightning rod of energy and you can see me like coin like this with IT like i'm smiling and i'm like, the only thing I can think of is to turn the slide. And so I hit the clicker to go forward.

I turn the slide, a blank slide, and i'm like, and then I was like, what is that? I goes forward again and something magical happens, which is, I like, wait a moment. I know what i'm source to say on this lide.

The last slide was a cue. I know what i'm source to say there. And I just started up. And as i'm walking off the stage, the stage manager whispers to me, chagos, we can cut that out for the youtube version. And that was IT.

Somebody came to me afterwards and they said, I noticed you passed in the middle of your talk and i'm like, uh, like how like I think everybody did and they say, but the fact you were able to recover is really important. And you know, think about that. And I had actually been shamed earlier in my life when I gave a presentation, just one presentation, I given so many that imprinted and created anxiety and fear.

And every time I presented after that, and this allowed me to detach from that experience and gain more confidence, because I knew that any time moving forward, if I stop that, I could find my words again and keep going. And so it's like this, this tool is focusing beyond failure. It's about finding ways to look at failure, completely different rental to see IT as opportunities where we can find our greatest insights and opportunities for growth.

And to me, one of the key things and all the failures that i've ever encountered that is just huge is so big um is what you are saying before, like we have these expectations, even the first time we the first time we try things, we expect we're gona macula sly succeed. And everything we. Right, like that.

Our expectation that we go in with that. And what i've realized is that if we reframe failure like we learn in school failures over here, success is over here, avoided failure, maxim success. I see IT as a prerequisite.

I see failure as an opportunity to be created, as an opportunity to explore other possibilities you didn't think of before. I see failure now as a way to learn and that the shift, right? So i'll give you an example where I think this will become really clear.

The first talk that I was invited to give on, lit, was at stanford, right, many months ago. I never spoken about IT. I put all these slides together.

I was super nervous, and I didn't even know how to talk about the book i've been writing. And I had been communicating IT, yeah and I get there and I said to myself, you know what, jeff, you're gona give IT your best. But this is jane one point.

Now I said, focus on doing your best, but also tapping into the cues that you get from people as you're speaking. What are the insights so you can move to? Je, two point? no. And two point now is gonna Better than one point now.

So I was able to shift away from expectation of giving a spectacular talk to focusing on the learnings, the insights I can, again, to make the talk Better because I was like, there's probably ly going to be a generation five point O A ten point O A twenty point, you know what ver IT is. And that shift is basically focusing on away from success and moving that to learning to gaining an insight. So you're focusing on the and that changed everything for me.

I love that. So I relate that as I was writing the letham theory book, I kept saying to the team, we're going to go through like twenty iterations of this. We're going to just this isn't about getting something to perfect.

It's about the iteration, step one, step two, step three. And so you're actually right focusing on I got to have a failed first draft and then a failed second draft and a failed third draft to get to the point where I actually love this thing. And can I give you some advice about speaking? Yeah please.

Because I think what the people said to you was horrible advice. So number one, it's always important to understand that the audience is no idea what you're about to say or what you're supposed to say. And so if you can remind yourself that they have no idea what i'm supposed to say.

So i'm not supposed to get IT right. I'm supposed to actually get through IT and try to enjoy myself. And if you're having a good time with IT, then they're gonna good time with you.

Yeah, second thing I want you to understand is that there is a tremendous amount of research about what happens when another person sees somebody else screwing up, whether they're tripping up the stairs or they freeze for a minute or they slide like I had so many moments where i've literally been in front of ten thousand people and the clicker stops working and you've got a stadium in your hands. And the amazing thing about those moments is that if you can get to the point, I just forgot what I was supposed to say. Guess, Better hit the next line.

H, I guess I was not important. Click, you know, people root for you. We like and share for people when we see their vulnerability. And if you can give yourself that Grace.

And here's the final thing always, before you walk on stage, you will always forever feel nervous no matter how prepared you are because you're about to be in the spot t like and that activates the alarm system in your nervous system because you're going to be going to hyper pay attention mode instead of going on. I got, i'm so nervous and chomping on the halls and passing back and forth and like ritter an literally say yourself, i'm so excited to get IT after ensure this. I'm so excited because that simple reframe, they have actually study this at one of the institutions are involved with harvard medical school.

Is that simple reframe? Get your brain to tell you nervous system. We're not nervous here. We're actually in a state of excitement and that helps you from having your nervous system hijack your prefrontal cortex between you can access the preparation. So too, but in that moment and your freeze, trying to make a joke, I just forgot that is going to say, and you'll be shocked at what happens yeah.

rudy tanzi is a neuroscientist to spoke about some elements of what you, what you just said in the book. And he said that before he goes to give a talk, he says to himself, I am here to serve 嗯， and it's more like he had it's not he's here for a performance. He's here to share. He's here to give what he has, his gifts, his work. And to me again, it's just what's that other possibility that can switch us from fighter fly and put us into that moment where we feel empowered, we feel connected, we feel like we're truly sharing what we have with everybody.

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You and I are spending time together with the amazing doctor, jeff carp, and we are learning about his life ignition tools. So doctor carb, you know, every single day we get questions from people around the world who feel like they're just kind of stuck. They're on autopilot, just going through the motions. Do you have a life ignition tool that you can use if you find yourself living in autopilot?

absolutely. yes. great. okay. One of the tools that you can use um in this situation is called flip the switch and it's all about um recognizing patterns that don't match up.

Can you give me an example? Like like where would you use flip .

the switch in your life? okay. So here's an example of flip the switch. My A D H D uh really created a lot of struggles for me on my learning differences.

And in the seven grade, I was actually identified as having learning differences in A D H D. And I got some accommodations. And that was really a pivotal moment for me. But what happened was, is that my a hd was still really problematic and troublesome for me, my learning differences, and he just presented daily chAllenges. And so I really needed everything, took me two or three times longer than everybody else I would constantly be staying after school.

I go on in on weekends to meet with teachers, the ones that would be available all through high school like you know, whenever I could I just I was always like a IT was like I was trudging through um I don't even know what but he was just slow, slow, slow progress and everything. And so I needed to find ways to become more efficient. And so I started to just focus my attention on efficiency.

And I was just so focused on becoming more that over time, I started to become more efficient. I started to be able to do more. I started to be able to focus my attention at will.

I started to be able to navigate the world in ways that I had never navigated before, to be able to learn and to succeed in my classes. And and I started to thrive. And what happened was I got so addicted to the doping hits from my work, because now I was just able to just do almost like two marathon's worth the work in a day.

And when covet hit, everything came crashing down in my liverpool room. I had realized to that I was completely at attach. I'd be going to birthday parties, and I will be trying to network with other parents who are there versus focusing on the purpose of the birthday party, which was to connect with my children.

And I would be at socket practices, and I would be trying to get my ten thousand steps. I'd be walking around the soccer field and over again to get my ten thousand steps. I'd be going for walks with my dogs, and I would have netflix on the phone.

And i'd watch an episode of game of thrones as I took them for a walk around the neighbor. D, that guy, I was, that guy, I was that guy. And and I was all because I had been so focused on just that I was just so addicted to the dope me that I was getting from my work, because I became very efficient.

I able to do way more than I i've ever done before, but that was actually taking me off track. Got a and covered was this unintentional pause, where everything can crashing down, literally, in my living room. And I was like, OK, I need to change.

And that's why I engaged flip the switch, which is a four step process. What is that? So the first step is to notice your inner desire for possibility.

So it's this idea that, you know, in that moment I knew that there was another way of living, another way of being. There was something I could do that I wasn't doing, and I felt disconnected. So I really was in touch with other possibilities that I needed to discover.

The second step is to take stock of what's working and what's holding you back. Kay and I had developed these incredible efficiencies in my lab, in my work, things were going extremely well. But at home, IT was a completely different scenario.

It's like I looked up and all of a set in. My son was quarter back of the high school football team. IT was of my kids were teenagers.

All these years had passed, and I felt there was something deep that was missing. There was something more than that I needed to engage. There was, I needed to figure this out.

I needed to turn in word. And so that is what was holding me back. And the third step was to consider other possibilities, other ways of thinking.

And at the time, my wife was engaged in a sort of seeking out these answers to some spiritual questions that he had. And SHE was speaking to some spiritual leaders in the community. And I was like, no, I took to me a while the kind of look around us, like all my god, she's having these conversations.

These are the conversations that I need to be having at this moment. I identified, this is the third step. The other possibilities are right in front, amy.

And the first step is to take a deliberate step forward. And so I asked my wife to introduce me to the spiritual people that he was engaging, and he did. And I started to meet with them, and I started practicing meditation.

I'd tried IT before, and I didn't really work like apps and all these things, but I I sort of was connected to transcendental meditation, which is this one word mantra that you say over and over your mind. And what I started to notice, as I practice IT, and I I practice IT for two or three months, that's all actually I needed. And what I noticed was that these thoughts were coming in my mind, there would usually be an emotion associated with the thought. And i'd be in middle meditation, and i'd be like, oh, my god, and write that email. And i'd be jumping out of the .

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But one of the amazing things that I recognized is that as that was happening, I noticed that if I didn't jump out of of the meditation, if I could hold myself there, that that thought and the emotion would actually IT would leave my mind. And all of a sudden that became this, this light by moment for me. Because what I noticed was when I was in conversation with my wife, with my children, I started to notice the energy of the conversation.

I started to notice that if, let's say, my kids are teenagers and if they're speaking and all of a sudden I want to say something, I want to interject the energy shifts from them to me and they stop speaking. And now it's on me. But that's not my intention.

My intention is for them to find their voice, for me to be supportive of them, and not for me to take over or for the attention to beyond me. And so the meditation helps me develop tools for navigating conversations with people, with everybody. And now i'm very, in my mind, during conversation.

It's wired in. I noticed the energy of the conversation and and I feel like the A D H D brain, because it's bouncing around. And people with A D H D often forget what they're gonna say, and that can be painful.

And so you wanted just jump out and say, IT. And through this process, i've been able to keep myself present so that i'm not jumping out and interjecting. And whenever I do that, I feel like it's almost like this box appears in my mind. It's only little checkmark because IT feels like a win. And when I do that, when I pause and think about that, any time i've had just these moments of intentionality in my day, and I just paused in that moment and sort of check, put a little check, IT feels amazing and IT sort of fuel more intentionality.

So I would love to, on the flip the switch you said for because I want to make sure anybody that els stuck understands that there is these four short steps ah that you can go through and that there is another way that there is always another way to do life. And so i'm assuming that in any area of your life where you're bumping up against friction, whether you feel like you're on autopilot or your sick of wear, your health and your state of kind of being in shape or not, is if you're tired of your drinking habit, if you feel friction in your relationship, you're saying there is a life ignition tool you should tap called flip the switch. And so step one is what .

noticing your inner desire for possibility.

fabulous and for possibility you mean. I don't want to IT like for me, you're speaking in a way that sounds very empowered. I'm very negative when I feel frustrated.

So I start to go what the and notice that you don't want them to be this way, that there is a positive. You want positive change. Yeah what's the second .

step is to take stock of what's working and what's holding you back because we always have things that are working for us and it's important to acknowledge them. Yes, because there that that's empowering.

Yes, IT is. And step three, then once you take in stock is to notice .

other possibilities and other ways of thinking because I think in our lives we're often just living a single possibility, but in any moment there's limitless less possibilities. And to me, that's also one of the powers of diversity, one of the reasons why we need to flood our lives with with a diverse ways of thinking and to spend time with people who think differently um who um you know have different ways of being, different ways of acting. Because what you can do is that can help you to identify other possibilities, is what we use in my laboratory for so problems we max, we use diversity as a superpower.

And i've done that in my relationship with Chris, when we've been in situations where we are ready to kill each other, like reaching out to friends. Have you ever dealt with this? Like what would you recommend? So there are other ways. And then you said the fourth step .

was taking a deliberate step forward.

And for me, simply reaching out to somebody that I admire, or that is a trusted friend, just reaching out for the advice makes me feel Better. So I didn't realize I was using your tool, flip the switch, but that's exactly the way i've approached these moments too, because there always is a Better way. And one of my favorite ones, because it's something I never heard before, this concept of pinch your brain.

What is IT? How do you use that? Why do I need IT? What is pinching your brain? doctor?

Cb, pinching your brain is using your intention to focus your attention on to think or redirected or thinking through your day in meaningful ways.

So how do you like? How would you use this? In your day to day life.

how do you use that now? Okay, give you an example. I brought. I brought two pens.

one car for you spent. I'm holding a pen that has a red end and you're holding a pen that has a blue end. And i'm assuming this is intentional.

Maybe we will see. So the way that we can practice pincher brain, okay, is to take something in your environment and focus your attention on IT and notice the new answer, right? And so this is something you can do anywhere in your life.

You can do IT inside, outside any room. And so if I say to you, okay, hold this pen in your hand. Like typically we just grab the pen.

We write with IT, and we put IT back down. We don't think about because our thoughts are moving all over the place. And so at this moment we could say, what we're gonna is pinch our brain just by focusing on the nuances of the pen.

So let's look at the pen together and say, OK, what are the different colors? What are the different textures? How is the light reflecting off the pen? Is any writing on IT? What does that say? Turn the pen around.

Start to look at IT. And what we're actually doing here is we're using our intention to focus our attention or squeeze out the other thoughts, and we're focusing on the pen. Now this seems really simple.

And your like, okay, how is that helpful? But what I found is that if you do this, if you make a practice of IT, and you can do IT outside as you're going for a walk, you can look at the texture of the bark on the trees, you can look at the clouds, you can let there are so many things to look at. When you start to notice the nuances, you start to also not only focusing your attention, you're connecting with what you're looking at. And there's this energy exchange that happens.

You just set a whole lot there. So I want to make sure that I impact this, which is a strategy and tactic of pinching your brain. I would imagine you can tap into this anytime you feel overwhelmed, any time you feel stressed out, anytime you're doom scrolling, anytime you feel caught in that devastating cycle of ruminating right over and over on negative thoughts.

He's saying, find any object in your environment. And as you're listening to us, you can look around IT could be a coffee mug. IT could be a cloud IT could be by anything really and by pinching your rainy is saying you can freeze out any of the worries or rumination or overwhelming that you feel by just focusing on the details of an object that is with insight and what happens.

Like what is the benefit? I can see the immediate benefit is you take control your mind. But what have you found over time? If you make this a practice, when you catch yourself, feeling overwhelm, that you use this picture brain tool.

So every time that you do this, it's like a biceps curl for your attention OK.

So this really good for somebody like me and you with a hd.

very good OK.

Why is pinching your brain good for somebody with hd?

Because when you have A D, H, D, your mind is filled with multiple thoughts that are just constantly bouncing around, and your frequently finding yourself not using your intention for where your tension is focused. So I think in today's society, our attention is so atomized, because we have stimulate coming at us from every direction online. You know, the goal of companies who Operate online is to grab your attention.

A trillion dollars that spend every year to hijack your attention. So on marketing and advertising every single year. And so are especially people with A D H. D. They fall pray the most to these types of stimuli. And so what we need to do is, is kind of like our attention, if you think of IT, almost like a muscle, yeah, we intentionally or on purpose, focus our attention. The more we are able to do that on command, on demand for other areas of our life that are most meaningful to us.

As we sit here, doctor carr, and have this conversation, i'm always thinking that there's one human being that truly needed all of the things that you're talking about today and because you've shared so openly about all of the things that you have struggled with from second grade forward. And I keep thinking about her son who had this lexie and A D H D and wasn't diagnosed until later and had a repeat grades, and how lonely he felt.

And ah you know I just you have gone on to run one of the most acclaimed academic scientific research labs in the entire planet. You are involved in over thirty thousand studies that have been, you know, where your lab has been cited. Would you talk directly to a kid that might be listening with your parent about what's possible? And if you could talk to you as an eight, nine, ten year old, what you wished you know back then.

absolutely. I love that well to me. I would first start by saying that one of the key things that really happened to me that was critical along my path is that I was A C.

N. D. Student early on. I was nearly filing out, you know, because nothing, nothing was working. And I was thinking about this earlier today, and I was going to getting emotional about IT because I don't like to think about that time too much because I was really difficult for me. I all the labels, I was getting lazy.

They asked me at one point, what do you want to be when you grow up and I said, I want to be a doctor and they said you Better set your sites lower because you just don't have what IT takes to do that um they said you're never gna amount too much and um and that really took at all. And the one thing the one thing that kept me going during that time is the support that I had from my parents and in particular, my mom. Um there were these speech competitions at the school that started, I think, in the forth or fifth grade, and my mom wrote to speeches for me and he helped me memorized.

And I had never memorized anything before. And I was really had a lot of anxiety I had, I thought, lost. But SHE said, okay, let's start with one word. Let's move to two words. Let's as soon I was, I had a sentence memorized, and then I had two senses, memories, and then I had three and four.

And I could tap into the fact that things were changeable, that I could actually memorize something I didn't think I could, and then he would coach me, and how to say IT, how to give the the speech. And what happened was incredible, because I started to win competitions. I started to be the kid to beat.

And I think that every kid, every person, needs to have that one thing where they can tap into the fact that things are change able, that one thing where they can gain the incremental confidence and tap tap into IT, feel IT in a very visceral way. Because when you do that, you can apply IT to all the other areas in your life. And and that truly is what allowed me to keep going and to then start to develop these tools, which eventually I applied from surviving to thriving.

Is that what you wish somebody would have told you, that things are changeable? Because I find your story fascinating and I know that there are there are somebody listening that feels that exact way about their son or daughter and you have an extraordinary amount of resilience. And just like i'm plan ahead, there's a rock.

I'm going here. I'm going here. I'm going here. And what is IT that you want to say to some kid that is in that space right now that doesn't feel like things are changing?

Um well, I would start by saying the following. I believe in you. I will always believe in you, no matter what labels you get, no matter who has shared you before, no matter what terrible things have happened to you, no matter what kind of self shame you induce on yourself, there is a way out.

There are infinite possibilities. The possibilities are living right now is not the one that defines you. You can break out of IT, and you just need some tools and strategies.

You just need to experiment a little bit in your life just to see beyond that possibility. And I am here to help you. I am will always be here for you. And I am excited for what the future holds beautiful. And no matter what, I want you to know that there is at least one thing that you are good at, that you can tap into and develop and IT will inspire the world .

that is so beautiful. Doctor carp, what are your parting words?

I just have so much statement for life and for what life holds for everybody. And I think that it's like, you know, I have experienced so many setbacks, so many chAllenges, so many times when I said i've heard that can be done. You can do this. You're not good enough. I i've experiences so many moments where I feel disconnected from the people around me, where um I don't feel innovative anymore, I don't feel creative.

I I don't feel like I can get myself out of this situation where i'm in a dark place where I I just don't know what the future holds, that i'm cuts behind fear, behind hesitation and what i've learned in the process of my life and in writing this book and in listening to your podcast. And you know, all the tools and the reframes is that we need tools, we need rituals, we need practices, we need each other, we need diversity, we need to be seeing things from different angles and different frames of references. And this has a way of showing us new possibilities, other possibilities, so that we don't end up trapped in this linear way that our minds gravitate to towards this, this single possibility that we find ourselves track within and did IT illuminates us when we have tools and when we can actually do these reframes. And so i'm just really excited for everyone out there. Am excited for you to to experience lit and to I and I am am excited to to hear um what resonates and i'd love to hear your stories.

Well, doctor jeff carr, thank you for opening up so much possibility and also doing IT in a way where you have given us so many simple tools that we can put to use immediately. And just like doctor carb said, I can't wait to hear what you do with everything he just taught us and shared with you, and I can't wait to see what happens in your life and the people that you care about in their life when you share this episode with them.

And in case no one else tells you, I wanted to be sure to tell you that I love you, and I believe in you, and I believe in your ability to create a Better life. And there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that everything that doctor carr pressured with you today will help you do that. There is so much more possibility, so many amazing things that you are capable of achieving and experiencing in your life. And every one of the things that he gave you as a simple way to look at things differently and unlock your potential, we're going to help you take that next step already. I'll see in the next episode.

Okay, I need to try this because i'm starving.

I have some um walnut milk if you wanted to try something that that there was an article in G Q on my breakfast that someone did no way. Yeah.

that's incredible. wow. Okay, fantastic. Okay, because i'm literally that I know what's wrong with my brain attached to my mouth at the moment.

Okay, I feel great. That is a great day. How do you feel incredible? Oh my god. Amazing balls. That's amazing.

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