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Welcome to our weirdo audio book club. This is so fun. This is so fun. I'm very excited. I'm stoked. I am so excited. I know, we have Sheena Maloney on the pod today. I don't even know what I'm doing here. I listed all the things that you're wonderful at.
It's true. I said, we have Sheena Melwani, bestie of the pod, TikTok star, woman with the voice of an actual angel, and co-host of the amazing podcast, Sheena Interrupted. And resident Luna moth. That too. You guys,
Can I just put you in my pocket and take you wherever I go? Yeah, probably. My best hype woman. You have two pockets. We can do that. One for each of you. You bring like snacks on the way. Perfect. There you go. You bring snacks for the ride. I love that. So yeah, we're super excited to have Sheena. She's always fun to have on the pod. You're always fun to have on the pod. Thank you.
Thank you. You're like, you're in the room right now. I know. I can talk to you. I'm like, look at you. But we're also so excited about our latest partnership with Audible. So we also want to thank them for helping us, one, bring this special bonus episode to you guys. And also, there's a fun little nifty gifty for you guys. Audible is offering a free trial. You can check out this title or any other title that you're interested in by going to audible.com slash weirdos. And
It's for that free trial. It's a free trial. Did I mention it's free? I used it for free. Yeah. Did you? I did. Oh my God, I love it. It's great. Audible is sick nasty and I think you should all go get that free trial. I think they should add a little badge to their website that says Audible is sick nasty. Audible, we're sick nasty. That would make me click immediately. Right? I want the sick nasty. Yeah. Most people
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But today, other than talking about how sick, nasty Audible is, we're going to discuss the title Desperate Deadly Widows. It's actually the sequel to Rich Young Widows, so definitely go listen to that first. It's another wonderful Audible exclusive. But today we're focusing on the sequel, Desperate Deadly Widows.
I loved this title. This was made for me. It was. It was. It was so good. It's so fun. I loved it. It was a lot of fun. I was a big fan. And it was written actually by four authors, Kimberly Bell, Lane Fargo, Kate Hollihan, and Vanessa Lilly. And each of them wrote for a different character.
This blew my mind. Isn't that cool? I did not know that. Isn't that amazing? That is very cool. And then you, now that I'm thinking about it, you could actually pick up on it. They're so distinct. Yes. The characters. But it's interesting though, because the tone of the whole book overall is like very... So cohesive. Uniform and cohesive. Yeah. That's the thing you, because I can't imagine writing with three other people. Like that must...
I have no idea how these women did this and did it so well. Bravo. Honestly. It sounds like such a task to undertake because you all have to be on the same page. You all have to be open to feedback, to zho-zhing together. It needs to come out cohesive and like it was written in
I wonder if they like lock themselves in a room or like a house for a few months and then... Yeah, they kind of... ...write together. Yeah. First of all, they wrote this, I think they said in 12 weeks, right? That... Wow. My brain does not wrap around that fact. And now I'm like kicking myself being like, write, bitch. Write a book in 12 weeks. Because I'm like, what are you doing? Right.
I know. Well, instead of locking themselves in a house, they had Zoom meetings where, so they would all like write their character. Kim wrote Camille, Lane wrote Meredith, Kate wrote Justine, and Vanessa wrote Crystal. And then obviously like as you're listening, there's pieces where like
Camille will say something in Meredith's voice. So they would give each other feedback and be like, oh, my character would say it this way or that way. So they had to like lock themselves in these Zoom meetings. I think they said they had like hours long Zoom meetings. And they just kind of like got everything perfect and like in the right voices. I love that. That's like the ultimate collaboration. It really is. And they nailed it. That's the thing. Like this could have gone better.
group project sideways. This could have gone into a different galaxy. 100%. And we would be like, whoa, ladies. But this, I'm like, whoa, ladies. Like, this is so good. It's a good, sick, nasty music piece. I wish you guys could see her face. She went from like this angry scowl, like, whoa, ladies, to all of a sudden like, whoa, ladies. Like, so excited. And that's how I describe this is, whoa,
like two thumbs up four thumbs up yeah there you go and if you're listening or if you already have listened you also know how incredible the voice actresses are yeah and the voices are so perfect for each character they're what you picture when you like yeah it's just like it makes sense oh 100% I have their like
I have them imaged out in my mind completely. Crystal is my favorite. I'm obsessed with her. She's my favorite character, but also my favorite voice. The voice was amazing. She's so good. This Italian mobster woman. Just like straight shooter. Yes. I love her. So good. She is performed by Dina Perlman. Carissa Vacker performs Camille. Ariel Blake performs Justine. And Helen Lazer performs Meredith.
So were you guys favorites of Crystal or did you have a different favorite? I really liked Camille. I thought Camille was cool. I thought she was like...
When I first started listening to her, I'm like, I don't think I like her character so much. But I just found her to be so warm as the book went on. And she's smart. And she's like unapologetic about who she was, the choices that she made. But she was also very kind. I feel like she grew a lot throughout the book. Because in the beginning, I was like, oh, Camille. Exactly. But then toward the end, I was like, you guys.
You get it. This experience made you kind of flourish a little bit. Gross. That's kind of how I felt. Crystal was just hilarious and awesome. I thought all of them were great in their own right. But it was Camille that I was like, I love...
Because of her intense flawed way about her. You know what I mean? Like, her flaws and how she, like, kind of overcomes some of them and works through some of them and is unapologetic for some of them. I was like, I love that. Like, that's a character. Yes. And I love that she was, like, a lady's lady. Yeah. Like, she was just power to her friends. Yeah. All the way through. And she could have been set up as something totally different. Mm-hmm.
Very much so. Like, the total other way, and she wasn't. Like, that was what was cool. And even the way that, like, Justine and her were still friends after everything happened and, like, worked their way through it. Oh, yeah. You know, like...
that's girls being girls right there we love it and justine had moments for me that were really i was like hell yeah justine yeah because there's one in particular that stands out to me it's when um when they're talking i think in the law firm and she says that she stands up when crystal is talking to her because she says even if she's talking down to her she's gonna have to look up yeah and i was like hell yeah just literally as i was listening to that i was like
Elena's gonna love that I loved it it's just got like bad bitch energy yeah 100% don't mess with me that was a mic drop moment 100% I loved it I love a woman who just is like not afraid to be herself yeah
Yes. And I feel like none of them are. Like, even this is just, like, such a little moment. But when Crystal realizes that Christopher Columbus is such an asshole, that's just, like, such a funny moment for her. And she's like, damn, he sucked. When she tries to use it as, like, a what? Like, that's a day. Yeah. And Aiden's like, try again. I'm not going to try again on that one. Well, even as simple as, like, her telling everybody that, like, my son is a, like. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know what language she used, but she's like, he's stupid. He's an idiot. And she loved him anyways, but she's like, he's stupid. She's just so real. She really is. And one of the other moment I was thinking of with Crystal actually is when Meredith and Crystal go to find Destiny and they're going to go try to get information from her and they find her at the strip club. And Meredith chases her off stage to interrogate her and the crowd is all pissed off.
And then Crystal gets on stage and everyone starts calling her like, oh, hey, Mae West, like, why don't you? And she does like a full on routine. And I was like, yes, girl. Just like lawyer with a side job.
She knew it was important. Yeah. She saw the in here. She's like, you go do your thing. I will entertain these people. I will distract. We all got to play a part here. Exactly. It was so good. Exactly. There's so many moments like that too that like, I feel like maybe we haven't all had like that specific moment with our friends. You haven't? Maybe not that specific one. Not that one?
But it's like, let me cover for you. Like, I got this. I love that. But that's what's really special about this friendship. They all, I mean, apart from that little thing with Crystal and Justine, which they resolved. Yeah. But like, I thought it was really nice that they all had each other's backs the entire time. They were all looking out for each other. They were all like worried about, okay, I'm going, Meredith, even when she went into the, when she went to jail, she's like,
We're not bringing anybody else in here. Like we're not roping any of these other girls in here. Right. And you could feel that they all had each other's backs the entire time. Yeah. Even if it was like reluctant. Yeah. They still would do it. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Which is so real too. Like sometimes you're like, I love you so much. And like, I really don't want to do this for you, but I will. You're like, what the fuck, man? Yeah.
Exactly. Why are you making this choice? Okay, let's, we'll discuss after I save your butt. Yeah. It's the, it's like the town whose car we taken. Whose car we taken. Like it's just, okay, whose car we taken. Exactly. You know, show me the details. I also feel like the story as a whole had like almost, have you guys watched Desperate Housewives?
Yes. I still haven't finished it. I started it like last year and I'm in like this weird break where I'm like not watching anymore and I need to pick it up. Yeah. And this title made me want to start it again. Oh, yeah. Because I feel like it totally has that vibe. Yeah. I never watched that, but I've seen like bits and pieces of it and it definitely...
I watched it and watched it and watched it and watched it some more. I watched way too much of that show. It's so good. And I feel like the dynamic between the wives in Desperate Housewives is very similar to the dynamic here. That's interesting. Well, so...
I actually thought of Desperate Housewives as well when I was listening to this title. And I think that I felt even more of a camaraderie and even more of like a family feel with these women. And that's one thing that drew me into the book even more. Like they really felt like they were family. Yeah. And they're just like badass. Yeah. And that's the thing I love the most is just how capable they were, but also all flawed.
Like, there are real women that you know, that you've known, that you've loved, that you hated, that you've, you know. Like, it's nice to see that they aren't portrayed as, like,
They're like boss bitches for sure. All of them. 100%. But they're not the kind that are going to step on the backs of other women to get where they think they can go by doing that. 100%. Like, I don't like reading about the kind of women who tell you like with pride that like, oh, I don't even know my employees' names. Who gives a shit? You know what I mean? Like, they're just like, that's the kind of person I am. Like, I don't, I don't like those kind of folks. We don't fuck with that. Like, fuck those kind of people. Right. But.
I want to know these women more. And like, I feel like they came out as like so real and they have each other's backs. And I'm like, I would, I want to hang out with you. Like, let's go out. When those letters came out. Yes. I was like tearing up for Meredith. Can you imagine having people in your life that would do this for you? That means that you are a
Yes, exactly. Even though this is a job that you're doing that I wouldn't necessarily have chosen for myself. Yeah. It doesn't matter. You're unapologetic about it. Exactly. And you are doing it to the best of your abilities with the kindest of intentions. Yes, that's the thing.
And I love reading about that. Like that's, I was like, yes, thank you for giving us those kind of like strong, powerful women. And they were all so different. So, so, so different. So different. And I feel like that's what makes up the friend group. Cause even like in my friend group, like I can point to like, who's the Meredith, who's the Camille, who's the this one. And it makes sense for like, it translates into real life. This is like sex in the city all over again. It really is. It really is. It's true. Yeah. And,
And like a grittier sex in the city. A little bit. The Rhode Island version. Yeah, the Rhode Island, the Providence, Rhode Island version. I was going to say, make it Providence. Well, that's the thing. It is gritty because obviously the entire story kicks off with the murder of the mayor of the town. Like, that's pretty intense.
And you can tell pretty quickly that our widows don't have anything to do with the actual murder itself. Like they're wrapped up in it, wrong place, wrong time. Yeah, very much. I feel like personally, and especially obviously you guys are listening to Morbid, me and Elena, I feel like we're pretty good at like predicting who a killer is. Yeah. Did you know? No. That's what I was going to say. Usually I do a good job of figuring it out, but.
I couldn't, like, they did a good job with the red herrings. Yeah. Because I'd be like, oh, maybe it's this person. Yeah. But then it would completely turn me around. Yeah. At what point did you realize who the murderer was? And we won't spoil who it is. Oh, we're not? No. Shoot, I was about to. We won't spoil you. At what point did I realize who it was? Probably during that kiss. Mm. Mm.
That makes sense. During the kiss was when I realized what was happening. Yeah. They were on my radar, the person who it was, but I was not. They were not like the final in my mind. Well, and what I like about it is like it's very intricate.
Technically, there's a couple killers. It's a complex web. It is. Like I said, the red herrings along the way, you start to point to one person and then you point to another and it's like everybody had their piece in it. It's true. One thing that can tip you off though, they did a really good job at planting little clues along the way that you don't know or don't think are going to come
back and then when they come back at the end you're like oh shit yeah that's that person like the death threats the notes that were coming to Mayor Tom yes there's a specific thing in those death threats that comes back at the end that someone they're in all the notes yep and then somebody says it towards the end and you're like wait a second and it literally comes down to like one word yep what did you call me
And that's like skilled writing. Oh, absolutely. Skilled thriller mystery writing is to be able to carry that and have it hit the way that this one hit. You're like, oh, shit. Right. Because sometimes you're like, wait, what? Like you heard that before? But they made it enough where you remembered it. Yeah. And it was such a specific thing that you wouldn't hear it in everyday sentences. Because when we got to the end and like that whole little thing happened, I was like,
Like, oh, shit. I remember that. Wait. It came back. Yeah. As far as themes, I feel like we obviously kind of touched on the theme of we see these women come together. They lift each other up. I feel like one of the themes obviously is like sisterhood, even through conflict. And obviously these women are bonded through tragedy if you listen to the first title. Anything else you guys thought of theme-wise? Yeah.
I mean, one of the themes that was super important in this story is the fight around indigenous rights. Yes. For sure. That's huge. It's really prevalent in this and like in the real world, to be honest, to see people being so callous and cold about building over literal sacred land. Yeah. Yeah.
And people are just offering up, and in the title, people are just offering up dollar signs to try and buy this land up. And then they're getting upset or offended or pissed when the members of the community don't want to just, like, take the deal to develop over their ancestors' bodies. It's like,
Yeah, money's not going to make me do that. Thanks, though. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for asking. Yeah, thanks so much. Like, wow, that was so nice of you. And I think they touched upon it really well. And I mean, the whole damn, and it's real, because the whole damn Providence Place Mall is built on sacred land.
Which is nuts. And in real life. And one of the authors, Vanessa Lilly, is actually an indigenous woman. So she partnered. Oh, I love that she wrote that in because of it. And she did such a good job with it, obviously. And that conversation, the conversation that Aiden and, um,
Camille had. Yes. Like it was so real. And it comes from like a real place. Yes. You know, in an informed place because she can speak on it and she partnered with members of the community to make sure that all the information in the, throughout the title was accurate and coming from like
a real accurate place, which is really cool. Yeah. It makes it really different. It's got like a special touch on it. Yeah, it does. It adds something to it. And like you were saying with the, like Camille and Aiden conversation, I even feel like that's more of Camille's growth, like throughout the book, you know? That softness came out a lot in there. It really did. But the fact that she was able to pick up on it, I said, like I said to myself, like that speaks mountains to her character, that she was able to pick up on it, even though she was like,
She came in guns blazing, like, who do I have to kill to get myself free? And he was soft-
towards her and she was soft towards him. I thought that was really special. Yeah, it's like they brought it out in each other. Yeah. Yeah, they're sweet. Another one of the themes that I thought was amazing was just watching these amazing women, these empowered women stand up for themselves. Yes. Yes, big time. Like, no, I'm not going to lay down because you all have money and you guys are throwing your money at this problem. These are solid values that we are going to stand by. We're not going to let you abuse this value.
these people. We're not going to let you abuse us just because you have more money than we do. We're not going to be your scapegoats. Yeah, exactly. I loved that. It was definitely like you're reading it and you're like, yeah, this is like a cautionary tale about society. Yes, absolutely it is. Sometimes rich people are just wild as fuck. Yeah. You know? But I love also that it all takes place in the 80s.
I know. And it's a fun part of this whole thing. It's funny because there's little bits where you're like, oh yeah, this is the 80s. It doesn't feel dated. You know what I mean? But I forgot that that was the case. When Camille goes up to the yacht, I was like, why didn't she just pull out her phone? You're like, what is she doing? Oh, that's why. She's lucky if she has a pager. Yeah, exactly. Truly. But I swear I was thinking to myself like,
These girls, like, they're smart, but damn, use a cell phone. Where's your phone at? They didn't have any quarters with them. No, they did not. They couldn't use a pay phone. Right. The couple parts with the yacht, it got so intense. I was like, we won't spoil that, but that's a key point in the story. Wait until you get there. What's going to happen? Yeah. Okay, so let's play a couple little games because, you know, at Morbid, we love a game. We love a game. I feel like we should take the four characters and –
Almost pretend like we're casting a film and cast each one. Love that. So let's start with Crystal.
Do you want me to start or do you want to start, Alayna? You can start. Okay. I feel like I see Crystal as Drea Di Matteo, I think is how you say it, because she gives me Adriana LaServa vibes from The Sopranos. Oh, yeah. Right? Oh, yeah. Like the curly hair. Yes. And I could even see her like doing up the accent like she did in Sopranos. Oh, yeah. Like Christopher. Christopher. Christopher. I could see Marisa Tomei.
Oh, yeah. I just feel like she would be perfect to flip right over. She would crush that. I very much see that. I think I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I could definitely do that. Okay, how about Meredith? Meredith, I think, and actually, like, Mikey came up with this one, and I think it's, I was like, yep, that's it. We checked. Emmy Rossum.
Oh, from Shameless? Yeah. Because she's got that like scrappy. Yeah, very gritty. That hard edge. But she's this like beautiful, just like take no shit girl. Like I just love her. Yeah. She would be perfect. I said Gillian Jacobs. And I was thinking of the same thing, like scrap.
I don't know if you guys have watched Love. Her character, Mickey. I haven't. I feel like you would love it. She was in Community, too. In Community, yep. And she kind of plays that badass girl who, once you break down the wall, does have that softer side. I could very much see that. I see Jennifer Coolidge. Oh my god! I would love that. That would be amazing. She would be my Meredith. That would be amazing! I like it.
You do a good Jennifer Coolidge. Now I want to see this movie with Jennifer Coolidge. Yes. I'm down. And as a nice segue, I see, oh gosh, Reese Witherspoon. Yes.
as Camille. Oh, now I wish I thought of that. That's a good one. I agree with that even more than the pick that I made. I thought Anya Taylor-Joy. And that was my pick too, Anya Taylor-Joy. Yeah, we agreed on that, but now I'm kind of thinking Reese Witherspoon. Oh gosh, I would kill to see Reese Witherspoon in that. I would love to see Anya Taylor-Joy too. I think she's
She's really good in like the menu and what was it, Last Night in Soho? Yeah, Last Night in Soho. She's good in that kind of like slinky, like I need to get the information I need kind of thing or get what I need out of this situation. She's really good at that kind of role. She's got that like old Hollywood kind of face and like vibe about her. And simplicity, but like simplicity.
So beautiful. Yeah. But also, like you were saying, like has the vibe of we can get shit done. Oh, yeah. You know? But yeah, Reese Witherspoon is also a good one. That's a good one. I'm tied now. Yeah. And then what about Justine? What did you guys think for Justine? I said Tessa Thompson. Ooh.
She's been in a few things. If you look her up, I just, I don't, she just like, I could see her. Yeah, she has false fits for energy. I think one of the things I knew her from and I was like, why do I know this movie? Like, why did I, it's from like 2012 or something. What is it? It's Murder on the 13th Floor.
I don't know if I've seen that. And it's one of those like, you know, she's a nanny for a family and she's having an affair with the father. And the mom is like, the wife is like this awful human being and they don't even love each other. Oh, great. I love that. It's this whole thing. And there's like, you know, a murder happens. It's kind of like it's got these vibes of like a murder mystery to it. Yeah. But she's really good.
And she's like really likable and has like a badass edge to her, but it's like a softer badass edge to her. Okay. Like a really capable kind of. Yeah. She just reminds me of it. I see that. Yeah. I like that. I could see her. I said Zendaya for like pretty much all the same reasons. Yes.
Like I think of her character in Euphoria and like she goes through a lot of hard times in Euphoria if you've watched it. But then you kind of see her character soften toward the ends of the season. And I feel like that's the same thing for Justine. Oh, yeah. I could see that. Mine is a little controversial. That's okay. Meghan Markle. Meghan Markle. No, I like that.
I like that actually. That's an interesting one. I mean, I just loved her in suits. And I just feel like she had this hard edge. She had this soft edge. She got shit done. Is she a lawyer in suits? I haven't watched these. She's a paralegal. So boom. She already has the experience. Yeah, she had that like grit to climb. But also like she was just super soft and...
At times, too. Yeah. And I feel like that's a key theme among all these four women. They're well-rounded. Yeah, they really are. All of them have that hard edge, but all of them have their moments of softness. They're multifaceted, like diamonds. I feel like that's just like all women. That's womanhood. Exactly. That's girlhood, baby. I love that. Okay, now how about a most likely to? Let's go. So most likely to win Survivor.
Ooh. Okay. I got to go Crystal. I got to go Crystal too. Yeah, she's so scrappy. I would say Crystal. Maybe Meredith though. Yeah. Meredith was going to be one of my, because I feel like she could get it done. She would make the alliances that she needed to make to get to like. Like kill it with kindness. Yeah. And then she'd get that like final jury vote, I feel like. Maybe. Yeah. She's got that like, that, you know. Will. Yeah. Strong will. Yeah. She's like, she's like.
She's a, yeah, I think that Meredith is. And think about like all the creeps that she's had to like deal with. And she's had to think of ways around situations. That's actually such a good point. Whereas like Crystal was like, when you heard the thoughts in her head,
You could tell that there was a lot of insecurity there. Like, oh, is what he's saying true? A lot of doubt. Yeah, there was a lot of self-doubt. Whereas with Meredith, I never felt that there was that self-doubt. She's like, mm-mm. That's what I was thinking. Sit down, little man. That's a really good point. Meredith was one of my first thoughts. And the scrappiness of Crystal might piss off the other contestants. It's true. And then they might try to spoken. They might just be like, see ya. Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah. All right. Most likely to be the maid of honor in your wedding. You had strong thoughts about this right off the bat. Not Camille. Not Camille.
Why not? I love Camille. We love her growth. But she's going to fuck your husband. There's always a possibility that she will sleep with your husband. The possibility is never zero. This is true, but it's never zero even if she's not the maid of honor. That's true. But I'm not going to invite her all up and
Do you think that maybe it would like deter her from being that person? No. I don't know. Camille strikes me as like matrimony, you say? Like, it's just, I don't know. So I think Crystal maybe, because she seems like she's scrappy.
Crappy. She's going to get you. If shit goes awry during that day, she's going to be the one that goes up to your wedding planner and is like, listen, bitch. My girl needs this right now and you're going to go get it done. What about Meredith? Do it kindly. I'd rather crystal. What?
Just for the drama. I love the drama. I thought Crystal at first, too, for those very reasons. But now I'm thinking, what about Justine? Because she is calm, cool, and collected. Diplomatic. Diplomatic. Yeah, very diplomatic. She's the one rooting for Nancy, which is quite a choice. Yeah, it's true. But she looks at all sides of things. So she could give you the full picture. But did she? Sometimes. Well, yeah. Actually, no. You're like, well, uh.
And at the end, she had this moment where she's like, I'm going to really reassess how I approach people. Yeah. So maybe not Justine. So who's final verdict? Meredith or Crystal? I think Meredith. I'm going Crystal. She's going like, because Crystal's going to flip a table and get you done. Do you want that on your wedding day? Yeah.
Let's go. Again, if you guys can see the look on her face right now. She's like, let's go. Let's go. Behind the scenes. That's the thing. I want her flipping tables to get stuff done for me and then walking out and being like, hello. There is only one thing that happens at your wedding that's absolutely insane. So if it's Crystal flipping a table, for me, that's very Teresa Giudice. So let's go. I got to go Crystal now. You got to go Crystal. But I see Meredith. There you go. Okay. Okay.
Wait, can I just ask a question? Yeah. Was Alina that for your wedding? Flip the table crazy? No, but during the bustling of my dress, people were arguing and Alina came in there and she said, step aside, bitches. I got this. And one lady was like, no, I know how to do it. And she looked at her and that girl just backed her up. She pulled a crystal. She pulled a little bit of a crystal and my bustle was perfect. It worked. I'll do it.
She was like, I watched a tutorial on how to do it. The lady showed me. I got it. I got this, bitches. And they let me do it. I was fully confident that she would flip a table if need be. I would have. She is kind of like a crystal. Yeah. Oh, Alina's a crystal. Actually, real quick moment. Who would you be? You'd be crystal. Who would you be, Sheena? Like, who do you think you are? Who do you think you are? Who do you think you are? Um...
I don't know. Really? Who do you think I am? I think you have elements of Meredith. Yeah. Because you get shit done. I do get shit done. Yeah. And you do it in like a kind of measured way. I mean, I don't know if my family would agree with that.
No, I think they would. If you actually hold them, they'd be like, yeah, like mom, mom does get shit done and she does it in a good way. And you're, I think I am a Camille. I will not fuck your husband, I swear. I swear. But like that good Southern girl, like flirty energy. We always say that you have like a Southern belle inside of you. And there's this like old,
old soulness to you that just like rung out from camille yes very true i could see that a lot yeah all the nice parts yeah thank you yeah not the not the husband parts not the fuck your husband part i like that we all have a person yeah yeah yeah okay most likely to cry at a rom-com camille justine i was gonna say just you think justine why yeah
She's going through a lot. She's going through a lot. People are really mean to her. She needs to let it out. It's a true. She's got a rough time at home. Yeah. Though I was super impressed with the way that she handled everything that went down with her mother-in-law. Her mother-in-law is always so snarky and she still was like, no, I want my son to have a relationship. She held it together. So maybe not. Maybe Camille. But I found Camille to be really...
smart about how she handled herself and things around her.
She had a soft side to her. She'd do it in the privacy of her own home, not in front of others. Yeah. Agreed. I could see that. I'm glad you brought that up about Justine's mother-in-law because I was like, I hate you. Like, you're really mean and go away. Yeah, she was really mean. She was awful. Yeah, it wasn't cool. And then didn't Crystal... Wait, Crystal told her off. Yeah, she's like, listen here, lady. Yeah. This is just not okay. Stop being a dick. That's friendship right there. That's friendship. After she was horrified
horrible to me. But that's such like... I can say whatever I want to you because we're besties. Because you're my family, but not her. But I'll ride at dawn for you. Okay, because it was the 80s, who's going to be the biggest fan of the hair bands? I think Meredith.
I could see Meredith and Crystal. Yeah. Top two right there. Yeah. Because I think like back when Meredith was like working at the club, I feel like I could see her performing to the hairband songs. Oh my gosh. Like she could, she could pour some sugar on me. On dopey. 100%. Yeah. Right? I would,
I think my vote is for Crystal. Really? Yeah. I see both. I agree. I could see both of them being down for like poison and like Molly Crew. And a sweatsuit. Yeah. Yes. I could absolutely see this. I love that. Little hair everywhere. Like all the hairspray. The Hades feathered bangs. I can see that. Yes. Yeah. All right. And last but not least, who does the best Madonna impression? Camille. Camille. Camille. Yeah. Easy. Ultimate tie right there. Yeah. Yes.
That was a lot of fun. I love talking about that with you guys. That was really nice. Anytime we can talk about things like this, like a book club, audio book club, any kind of book club, I'm into it. Can I send you guys another title? Yes. So while I was listening to this title, I saw that they had A Court of Thorns and Roses. That's been recommended to me a lot. That book series is amazing.
So listen to this title. They have it on Audible. It's amazing. I feel like the fantasy element of that too, like on Audible would be really fun to listen to. Oh, yeah. I bet the voices are really good. So yeah. So I think that you guys should listen to it. Absolutely. I actually read the book.
But I'm so curious to know how they are going to approach it with the voices, the voice actors. Oh, yeah. I will probably go home and start that one tonight. Hell yeah. I love that. I would definitely listen to that. Oh, yeah. Can we regroup in like a couple weeks and do this? Should we just do like a straight up book club? Yeah. I love that idea. I'm in. I'm always for a book club. Let's go. One, two, three, book club. Book break.
I'm in. Do you have an Audible recommendation over there, bro-y? I do, actually. I love, love, love Audible. I do, too. I'm a big Audible gal. They're sick nasty. They're sick nasty. Sick nasty. I really mean it. I don't call just anything sick nasty. It's true. She doesn't. No, she really doesn't. I really don't. So I started listening to Needful Things by Stephen King.
And it's narrated by my guy, Stephen, as well. I love when the title is narrated by the author. Oh, and it's just like Stephen King does a great narration, too. Of Stephen King's writing. Only he can do it the way that he needs to be done. I mean, that checks. It's true. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Go listen to it.
My recommendation is Murder Your Employer. I love that. It's a really good title. Okay. And one of the narrators is Neil Patrick Harris. Oh, I love that. Who wouldn't want to listen to that? Yeah. I love that. His voice is like butter. Butter. Butter. And hasn't everybody felt that way once or twice? Yeah. Who hasn't? Right. Yes. You can also listen to The Butcher in the Wren audiobook. You can also do that.
Who's the one who narrated that one? It wasn't me. It wasn't the author. But they were great. Joe and Sophie, my wonderful voice actors, did Jeremy and Wren. They're really good. And they're amazing. Love that. And Sophie is from New Orleans. You can tell. So she has that perfect little...
Louisiana accent in there. Like it's got that good little, like just a hint of it in there. Yup. They did a great job. Certain words that comes out and I'm like, Oh, love that. Yeah. You can listen to that if you want. And the butcher game will be out on audio book. So same in September. Oh,
And I guess you'll just have to wait and see about that. Amazing. But you can pre-order that one. Where? On Audible. Do it. Do it now. It'll be sick nasty if you do that right now. Sick nasty. You guys are
understand what kind of a compliment this is yeah because Elena does not give out compliments no like this easily when she does they're always in this form yeah they're always aggressive yeah she'll say you're so beautiful I want to punch you in the face yes I violently compliment you're a violent complimenter you have violently complimented me a couple times and I'm like oh
I don't know if I should put up my arms in defense or say thank you. You look so pretty. I want to punch you in the face. And you're like, wow. Okay. Don't. Mikey always says I am a trigger warning. Yes. Like I need a shirt that says trigger warning. Be careful. I love it. Proceed with caution.
All right. This was so fun. Thank you, Shishi, Sheena Melwani for joining us today. Thank you for having me. This was so fun. We love having you on the pod. And of course, thank you to our partners over at Audible for making this possible. Like I said, this was so much fun to do. And listeners, weirdos, homies, go check out Audible. And remember, you can get your free trial at audible.com slash weirdos.
go listen to all the books that we recommended. And also after you go get your free trial, you can go over to our Instagram post at Morbid Podcast. We posted like all about this fun book club that we were going to do. And I want to hear your feedback. We want to see which character you resonated with the most, what your favorite part of the title was.
The whole nine. All your thoughts. Empty your brains. Please. Do it. And tell us what other books you want us to do as part of our book club. Maybe you guys can come on my podcast next time and do that. We would love that. Sheena interrupted. Sheena interrupted. Can we interrupt you? Book club. Absolutely. Book club. Book club. All right, widows. We hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird. But not so weird that you don't join our book club. Ew. Why would you not? Gross. You gotta join it. It's gonna be sick now, Steve.
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