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Republicans or Nazis, you cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. Growing up in the 90s, I never thought much about race. Sure, you noticed, but it never really seemed to matter that much. At least not to me. Being a white, straight, cisgender man, it's the top of the pile. I'm on the top of the pile. That's me. Am I racist? I would really appreciate it if you left. I'm trying to learn. I'm on this journey. Can you please leave?
I'm going to sort this out. I need to go deeper undercover. If I want to be an ally, I need to look like one. What is racism? Martin Luther King said not to judge people by their... Martin Luther King said a lot of stuff. Is America inherently racist? What the hell is that? The word inherent is challenging there. America is racist to its bones. All of the... So inherently. Yeah. The entire system has to burn. And I'm not going to even use save this country. This country is not worth saving. This country is a piece of... Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert. Here's my certification. Where are you guys in your anti-racist journeys? So look around the room and point to who we believe is the most racist person in the room. We want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument. Would you mind signing it? You will?
What do you think about this issue of heteronormativity and how it intersects with the broader structures of racism in society? What's up with white people? What are you doing to de-center your whiteness? Who's making it a center? Why are they doing that? What you're doing is you're stretching...
Out of your whiteness. There's more for you in this field. White. Folks. White. Trash. White supremacy. White woman. White boy. White. Entitlement. White. Centering. White. Silence. Is there a black person around here? There's a black person right here. Does he not exist? Hi, Robin. Hi. And what's your name? I'm Matt. Matt. Hi, Matt. Nice to meet you. I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful. Never be too careful. In theaters now.
It's rated PG-13. Buy tickets now. Well, folks, Matt Walsh's new movie is out and it is already causing seismic waves throughout the DEI community. We'll get to the biggest story concerning that in one moment. First, Tuesday night's debate made it clear that legacy media will do literally anything to bury the truth, including just openly side with Kamala Harris.
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of actually allowing people to see the film. Apparently, one movie theater employee put out a post saying, I will be making the transaction as difficult as possible for anyone seeing the Matt Walsh movie. Another person said, can you take the good seats out of service without anyone noticing? Only sell the creatures that crawl out of the mud to see this thing, the crap seats. So, the left doing its best to prevent people from seeing the film, even at the lowest levels. But, it is
It is not stopping the fallout. So one of the funniest scenes in the film, Am I Racist?, is a scene in which Matt sits down with Robin DiAngelo and it is hysterical. So Robin DiAngelo is the author of an incredibly big selling book called White Fragility. So in 2020, during Black Lives Matter summer,
Robin DiAngelo became a thing. Her book sold like hotcakes. It was at the top of the New York Times bestseller list for weeks at a time. It sold hundreds of thousands, if not millions of copies, and it is complete and utter tripe. It is an awful piece of trash. In fact, I did about a 40-minute takedown of it on YouTube. You can go check that out right now. I go point by point through her entire trash book. It makes no sense. It is self-defeating. The entire book conflicts. It is logically incoherent.
And it happens to be also particularly ugly because the basic idea is that if you are white, then you are inherently sinful. And there's no way to escape that sin except for doing the things that Robin DiAngelo wants you to do politically speaking. So there's a scene in the film where Matt somehow and his producers got Robin DiAngelo to sit down with Matt. And the premise of Am I Racist is that Matt is effectively a very woke DEI guy.
And he falls into the philosophy of D.E. Idem and chases it all the way down the rabbit hole. So he actually inhabits that character. It's kind of like a Nathan Fielder movie. He...
inhabits that idea and becomes the DEI guy as he follows it all the way down the rabbit hole. So in this particular scene, I don't want to give it away because it's one of the best scenes in the film. He's sitting with Robin DiAngelo. And let's just say that he manipulates her into doing something so insane on camera that it should be career ending. And she knows it, which is presumably why she has now basically deactivated her Twitter account. Now, Robin DiAngelo has released a statement
slamming Matt Walsh. She vowed in a statement not to watch the film. Here's what she said, quote, back in 2023, I was contacted by a group who claimed to be making a documentary film called Shades of Justice about efforts to address racism in the United States.
They plan to interview anti-racist activists, authors, and thought leaders in service of supporting the cause of racial equality. They offered me between $10,000 and $20,000 for an interview. I said, let's meet in the middle with $15,000 and agreed to participate. I've since donated that sum to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. Well, I'm sure that she donated that sum after she found out that she was in the film and realized, oh boy, this is going to be bad. So first of all, kind of weird that she only agreed to be in the film for $15,000.
Except for the fact that as Matt's movie exposes, this whole thing is a giant grift. Robin DiAngelo has been picking up checks from some of the biggest corporations in America for years to go there and teach absolute horse crap to people.
And in exchange, she receives the money and the credibility. And then she takes those credentials. Hey, I taught at Google. And she moves on to Apple. And then she goes and picks up a big sack of cash from Apple. So she took $15,000 to sit down for the documentary Shades of Justice, an anti-racist documentary. When I arrived for the interview, says Robin DiAngelo, a few things felt off. The grips would not make eye contact with me. The interviewer, who's introduced as Matt, appeared to be wearing an ill-fitting wig. So number one,
I like that she puts Matt in quotation marks. That's his name. I know him. We're friendly. We're somewhat acquainted. A person who introduced himself as Matt. Well, he didn't introduce himself as Jane. Matt presented himself as someone new to anti-racist work. Also true. And seemed earnest and his questions did not come across as adversarial. By the end, however, things got weird. See, that's the whole point.
is that when doing something like what Matt did, the whole point of it is, what do these people say to each other behind closed doors? And you can't do that if you come in an adversarial. So he asked her questions and she couldn't tell what was going on. The whole point of Am I Racist is to find out what the DEI consultants are saying behind closed doors. But you know what's actually happening behind closed doors because of our current economic management?
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Matt asked what I thought, says Robin DiAngelo, about reparations for black Americans. I said I agreed with reparations, but that it was not my area of expertise. He then pulled up a chair and invited a black crew member who went by Ben to sit with us, took out his wallet and handed Ben some cash. He said that if I believed in reparations, I should also give Ben cash. While some black people have asked white people to engage in reparations by giving directly to individuals, reparations are generally understood as a systemic approach to past and current injustice. The way Matt set this up felt intended to put Ben and I on the spot.
Well, there's a problem with this particular statement. Ben happens to be a producer on the film. So it didn't put Ben and you on the spot. It put you on the spot because you're a hypocrite. Because Matt was pushing this on us, I expressed my discomfort and checked in with Ben to make sure he was okay with receiving cash in this way. Ben reassured me that he was, so I went to my wallet and handed him my cash and the interview ended.
I was so unsettled by the way Matt manipulated this last scene, I emailed the contact person who went by the name of Lee Hampton to explain that this scene was not an example of reparations and could mislead viewers. I asked they not use it in the film and shared several resources over viewing legitimate systemic efforts for reparations. He assured me, says Robin D'Angelo, that he understood and that they had not yet decided whether to address reparations. He never again contacted me or answered an email. After reviewing the sequence of events and discussing it with colleagues, I realized they had lied about their agenda and I had been played.
I spread the word on my networks. Unfortunately, last month, I started receiving hateful and misogynistic emails. Some reference The Daily Wire and Shapiro's website, which announced the film is indeed being released. It is not titled Shades of Justice, nor is it meant to support the anti-racist cause. Well, yeah, because you won't speak to anybody who doesn't. It is a Borat-style mockumentary titled Am I Racist? and designed to humiliate and discredit anti-racist educators and activists.
Yes, that's accurate. That's true. Their deception was carefully planned and well-funded. The website they had sent me was fake, as were their identities, the project title used in the legal waiver, the description of the project, and the last name they gave for Matt. The interviewer was, in fact, Matt Walsh, a far-right provocateur, backed by Shapiro and DailyWire Plus, and yes, wearing a wig.
The co-CEO of The Daily Wire, says Robin DiAngelo, has stated, quote, I can't think of a more appropriate film for The Daily Wire's first original theatrical release than Am I Racist? What does a woman change in the national conversation on radical gender theory, effectively killing the issue, and DEI is the next pillar of the woke mind virus that's about to topple. DEI culture is one of the most toxic plagues in American life. Am I racist, says Robin DiAngelo, is not only about me, and I was not the only one who felt for their deception. Sadly, many of those being mocked are women of color.
No, no, never mock a woman of color. Never. There's never any reason because in Robin DiAngelo's world, they are sainted. By the way, some of the people who are mocked in the movie include people like Cyra Rowe, legitimately one of the worst voices in American public discourse.
I have not seen the film, nor do I plan to watch it, says Robin DiAngelo. So I don't know what they've used in my interview or how they've edited it. But if you see the clips or the full film, consider the source, Matt Walsh. So who is Matt Walsh and what is his and his backer's agenda? Luckily, he has answered that question without shame time and again. Then she quotes the Southern Poverty Law Center, says Shapiro and Walsh's previous film, Lady Ballers, is filled with misogyny, racism, and transphobia. Shapiro also sponsored a film denigrating George Floyd. Oh,
Wait, you mean that we said that maybe George Floyd wasn't killed by Derek Chauvin, that maybe he died of a drug overdose that was induced by high stress? Wait, you mean like the medical evidence...
Or maybe we pointed out that George Floyd, in fact, led a pretty checkered criminal life. No, no, no. This experience, says Robin DiAngelo, has reinforced for me how critically important it is to do in-depth background research before making yourself vulnerable to people you don't know or believing in sharing what you see online. They will not prevail in their efforts to stop the work for racial justice. Well, it seems like we prevailed a little since you deactivated your Twitter account. So there is that. A little awkward for you. What's hilarious about all of this
And Matt tweeted this out. He said, Robin DiAngelo has issued a statement denouncing our film. She claims the movie is designed to humiliate and discredit anti-racist educators and activists. She couldn't be more correct in that assessment. Thank you, Robin. My favorite part of this wonderful statement is that she says she noticed my ill-fitting wig when we first sat down with me. And yet for some reason, she still did the interview. Maybe it was the $15,000. Maybe, maybe, because the giant grift
Now, Matt also points out this morning that people are very angry at him. He used methods of deception. You mean in a mockumentary in which you expose people? So Matt tweeted, quote, many on the left are criticizing the tactics we use to make our film. Notice how they make no such criticisms about Borat. The difference is that Borat was meant to embarrass normal working class Americans.
Our film embarrasses DEI grifters, academics, and upper-class liberals. Even Nathan Fielder, who I think is hilarious and brilliant, usually uses these kinds of methods to humiliate average people who haven't done anything to deserve the humiliation. The left is fine with that, too. With our new film and our last film, we're actually punching up, but somehow we're the unethical ones. Interesting. Of course, that is exactly, exactly right. So Matt's film already doing damage hilariously enough. The film is going to be released. It's already in something like 1,500 theaters across the country.
It is not reviewed a single time at Rotten Tomatoes. Zero reviews, none. In fact, if you go to the Rotten Tomatoes page brought to you by Fandango, they have a sort of scrolling wheel here that says new and now in theaters. And it lists literally every movie except for Matt's movie. Like Matt's movie is just not there. It's in 1500 theaters. If you go to this little scrolling wheel here on Rotten Tomatoes, it ain't there. You would not know.
In fact, even if you go down to their new theater releases, it just doesn't appear. Shocker. So they're going to try to ignore this the same way they tried to ignore What is a Woman. Don't let them ignore it. Go out to the theater. As a homeowner, some of the most tedious and easily forgotten maintenance tasks are often the most important. Take gutter cleaning. It's one of those out-of-sight, out-of-mind chores that can lead to serious issues if neglected. LeafFilter offers an investment engineered to protect your whole home.
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Now, you've been seeing a lot of headlines about how Kamala Harris is building a lead. She's really, really building a lead. There is only one problem with this particular narrative, which is that the polls basically so far are the same as they were before this particular debate.
So before the debate, Kamala Harris was leading by about a point and a half in the RealClearPolitics polling average. And today she's leading by about one and a half in the RealClearPolitics polling average. In fact, the last two polls that have come out, that at least are taken partially after the debate, are the Reuters Ipsos poll that shows Harris up five and the Morning Consult poll that shows Harris up five. There's only one problem with that, which is that if you go back a little bit further, what you see is that the last Morning Consult poll, Harris was up three or four,
And in the last Reuters Ipsos poll, Harris was up four. So in other words, there's been like a slight uptick for Harris, but nothing like this kind of blowout. She's jumping ahead, surging. The race is utterly changed. In fact, according to CNN's Harry Enten, she actually is still underperforming with younger voters even after the debate, which is kind of shocking.
So this is the Democrat versus Trump margin among voters age 18 to 29 or under the age of 30. You go back four years ago at this point. Look, Joe Biden had a 28-point advantage, a 28-point advantage over Donald Trump. Now, you look when Joe Biden dropped out of the race, he was up by just seven points. Now, Kamala Harris has improved on Joe Biden's standing, but look at this. She's only up by 15 points. That is significantly less than Joe Biden was up at this point among the youngest voters in our electorate.
So again, these are not amazing numbers. Here's the thing. People widely perceive that Kamala Harris won the debate, but it didn't change anybody's opinion. This is what I was saying yesterday on the show, is that she established that she doesn't always have to be incoherent if she kind of knows what's coming and if she's never thrown off her game by either the moderators or by her opponent. However, nobody has actually changed their opinion about Kamala Harris as a candidate. Everybody already knows what they think of Trump. What that means that this thing is going to come down to extremely slim margins in all of the swing states, as I said yesterday.
In fact, the Wall Street Journal interviewed a bunch of undecided voters about who won the Trump-Harris debate. And what they basically found is that the debate did not shake their previously held motions about Trump and Harris and where they stand on the issues like the economy, immigration, or conflict overseas.
So for example, Sabrina Champ, age 47, who lives in Arizona. In 2020, she wrote in Bernie Sanders. In 2024, she's leaning Trump. She says nobody won the debate. She said she baited him, he fell for it. That was disappointing. But as far as Kamala is concerned, I didn't see a lot of policy. Or for example, Jessica Maldad, age 40 from Pennsylvania. She voted for Biden in 2020. 2024, she's undecided. She said that while she believes that Harris won the debate,
She says that she's found herself more drawn to Republicans this election cycle and thinks Trump would be stronger than Harris on some of her priorities, including the need to show strong support for Israel. She said that she didn't know what to do when Trump started talking about eating dogs, but it didn't change her fundamental opinion of how exactly this is going to work. Or Kevin Walsh.
who is a self-described Democrat from Pennsylvania. He voted for Trump in 2020. He's going to vote again for Trump. He says, I don't think Trump did very well. I expected more out of him, but she didn't give me any information I didn't already have. It was frustrating to me as a voter. Again, I think that the basic idea here is that if Kamala Harris wishes to win this race, at some point, she's going to actually have to draw a distinction between herself and Joe Biden, which is something that she is pretty clearly not willing to do.
The big distinction between her and Joe Biden is that she is not personally an old 80-year-old white man. That is the big distinction. That's literally all she can do to distinguish herself because on ideology, she refuses to actually create gaps with the current Biden White House because if she did, she'd have to revert back to her positions from 2019-2020. This is perfectly obvious when you hear the Harris campaign talk about this. For example, yesterday, Harris co-chair Mitchell Andrew
He said that she helped Joe Biden do all of the things. That was her bit. So she's tied at the hip to Joe Biden. She was in the room. She made the decisions. How exactly does she draw to the distinction with an incredibly unpopular president?
I think Joe Biden's going to go down in history as being one of the most consequential presidents in the history of America. And she was his vice president, and she helped him do all the things that were done in the Biden time that she was there. And I think that she's proud of that. But nobody should be unclear of the fact that she is her own person. That is the point that she was trying to make to Donald Trump.
Okay, well, she can say she's her own person, but what about her makes her her own person if she is just a fresh coat of paint on the crappy old jalopy the Democrats have been trotting out for several election cycles at this point, pretending it's a brand new Lamborghini? This is the problem. And so she's just gonna campaign on vibes. It's just gonna be vibes all the way on in, which is why, again, it is up to Donald Trump to define her. He needs to define her. There is no choice but to define her. It's all vibes all the way down. Representative James Clyburn,
Democrat from South Carolina. He says the thing about Kamala is that people love Kamala. They just love her. What about her? Well, her, you know, like her, her vibes. Progressives love her. Conservatives respect her. She is the quintessimal American.
Meanwhile, Kamala Harris on the campaign trail. She has nothing to say about policy at all. She just keeps sounding exactly like Kodos from The Simpsons when Kodos takes over a body in Treehouse of Horror and decides to run for president. Twirling, twirling toward the future. Twirling and twirling. Here we go. We will move forward. We will move forward because ours is a fight for the future and it is a fight for freedom.
Just like when she was a baby. Okay, so forward to the future as opposed to forward to the past or laterally or perhaps diagonally. Meanwhile, they're trotting out Tim Walls who looks like he got into Hunter's cocaine stash and he's really rocking it on the campaign trail. Thank you, Grand Rapids. He's clapping like a nut. And then, oh my God, what is up with... Why is he like a terrible actor in a musical? And he's gonna do jazz hands now?
There are the jazz hands. There we go. He's like, who's he waving to? Now he's like looking up at the sky and pointing to everybody. What in the world is going on with that guy? He's such a weirdo. I'm sorry. He's a weird guy. He's just a weird dude. But that's what it is. It's weirdness and vibes and beta male energy.
And also, of course, shouting that Donald Trump supporters are the scum of the earth. MSNBC's Joy Reid yesterday, she had on Eli Mistel, who, of course, despises Republicans. And they both suggested that the problem in America is not just Trump, of course, who is the fond head of all evil. It is all of his supporters who are similarly evil. Everything he does is despicable. The reason why it doesn't end his career is because his supporters are just as despicable.
All right. Like Trump's whole thing. He's a narcissist. Right. And so his whole thing is to have a complete lack of compassion and empathy for everybody else. It's all about him. That's why he lies about 9-11. It's all about him, him, him, me, me, me. It's he's probably the least compassionate president we've had in 200 years since Andrew Jackson.
And it works for him because his supporters are just as ungenerous and have just as little compassion and empathy for others. So when he is seen out there, essentially, as you guys have put it, desecrating our national symbols, when he is seen out there putting himself above all else, his supporters also want that to be the case. They want to do that in their own lives. That's how they think of themselves. Yeah, and they also, he hates the people they hate.
These are just wonderful folks. See, you want to desecrate national symbols. I love that they sit there after the BLM summer of tearing down statues and talk about desecrating national symbols. It's always very amusing. Folks, this election is enough to make you lose sleep, but you can't afford to lose sleep, which is why you need your Helix Sleep Mattress. Now, here's the thing. I've had a Helix Sleep Mattress for years. I...
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Unlike every possible level. So, for example, Afghanistan, complete disaster. One of the great frustrations of watching the debate earlier this week was watching as Donald Trump failed to take advantage of opportunities provided for him on a silver platter. Kamala Harris literally said in that debate she had no regerts, no regerts whatsoever with regard to Afghanistan. None. That is the biggest opening in world history. Donald Trump should have charged through that thing like an angry bull.
He should have said, listen, Vice President, you said you have no regrets. How about like the 13 regrets? You know, like the 13 dead American soldiers. I went to their grave sites. You dinged me for going to their grave sites while ignoring their families. How about the 19 million women? You say you're for women's rights. You say that you actually care. You're super, super compassionate, super empathetic. You care so much about girls and women all over the world. You were perfectly willing to let 19 million women get stuffed into burqas in the basement, forcibly married to men 20 years their elder,
And kept away from every aspect of education and beaten if they don't comply. You are perfectly willing to do that for your own glorification. Don't lecture me about empathy and compassion. And he would have been totally right. Here's NATO's Jens Stoltenberg, who is the head of NATO, saying that post-NATO Afghanistan is a complete disaster area. Of course it is. Of course it is. Why isn't this like the number one issue in the election? It should be. It's the most humiliating moment in American foreign policy of my lifetime by far.
We can safely say that it's gone 360 back to Taliban 1.0. I mean, that is a catastrophe, in fact. Extremely bad and a catastrophe, not least for the people of Afghanistan, in particular women. And I met many women, members of parliament, journalists who begged us to stay. And for many years, I promised that we will stay. We were going to live on a conditions-based approach. Yeah.
So we were only going to leave when we had the confidence that the African government was able to take over and secure the country. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris continues to lie about the economic program of President Trump. She said again in her rally yesterday that Goldman Sachs had analyzed their various plans and come up with the idea that her plan would make the economy boom and his economy would crater. Well, Goldman Sachs' CEO last night was like, no, that's not true. We never said that.
That report, which was mentioned last night in the debate, came from an independent analyst. And it's interesting, Scott. I think a lot more has been made of this than should be. What the report did is it looked at a handful of policy issues that have been put out by both sides.
and it tried to model their impact on GDP growth. The reason I say a bigger deal has been made of it is what it showed is the difference between the sets of policies that they put forward was about two-tenths of 1%. I think our clients are trying to look at what's going on from a policy perspective and make judgments. I think this blew up into something that's bigger than what it was intended to be. So in other words, she was lying about all of that because of course she has to lie. She has to lie about Afghanistan. She has to lie about the economy. She has to lie about immigration.
Now, all of this stupid talk about whether dogs and cats are being eaten in Springfield, which, again, President Trump, for whatever reason, he tends to glom onto whatever is the memiest thing of the day. And the memiest thing of the day, that debate was all of the grok AI photos of Donald Trump protecting cats and geese and such. And so Trump, it got in his head as he saw it on TV that they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, eating them in Springfield.
And it's become kind of a viral TikTok meme and it's pretty funny. But the reality is that underlying all that is a pretty serious issue in Springfield, Ohio. Here, for example, is a resident of Springfield, Ohio talking about how there are lots of homeless people on the streets of Springfield, Ohio. None of those people are being given stipends by the federal government so they can get housing. But new Haitian immigrants are.
The homeless problem. I don't know of a single homeless Haitian in this town because they all got vouchers. But I can show you a whole bunch of people that have been displaced because I'm that guy. Rob, you know, for 25 years, I've worked with the homeless in this community. These are all major problems that Kamala Harris is ignoring. And while some people are talking about eating the cats and the dogs, I think that what we should be talking about is how you get the world's best meat. I'm talking here about good ranchers. See,
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It is, again, these are all major problems. And Kamala Harris is ignoring all of them in favor of jabber about vibes and compassion and the future. Now, there are very serious economic problems on the way. And Kamala Harris is a deeply unserious person. So, for example, we just found out yesterday that interest payments on the national debt have topped $1 trillion this year. According to CNBC, the U.S. government for the first time has now spent more than a trillion dollars on interest payments for its $35.3 trillion national debt.
With the Federal Reserve holding benchmark rates at their highest in 23 years, the government has laid out $1.049 trillion on debt service, up 30% for the same period ago, and part of a projected $1.158 trillion in payments for the full year.
Subtracting the interest the government earns on its own investments, net interest payments have totaled $843 billion. We are now spending more money paying back our debt, the interest on the debt. We're not paying the actual principal back on the debt. We're spending more money on that than anything in the American budget, except for Social Security and Medicare. That jump in debt service costs came as the U.S. budget deficit surged in August, edging close to $2 trillion for the full year. Now, I want to show you this chart. This is a chart
of American interest payments. These are interest payments on the debt, what we owe to other countries on the debt. As you can see, if you go all the way back to the 50s, the answer was pretty much nothing. Pretty much nothing. And then it started to climb in the 60s, fairly consistently until you hit...
The late 1970s, the mid to late 1970s. And then the trajectory started to climb even more. And it set on this new, very, very steep trajectory going from approximately $50 billion all the way up to continuously about $350 billion in about a little before the year 2000. Then the interest payments on the debt started to come down.
From that late 90s period through the mid 2000s, they started to climb again fairly precipitously until you hit the 2008 crash. And then kind of bounced around a little bit. And then the 2020 pandemic and its aftermath. And they just went line that goes straight up. It's a line that goes straight up.
And that is Joe Biden's inflationary policy because we took out more money to spend, which means we have to pay more money back. And we took it out at exorbitant interest rates because we had to increase the interest rates in order to jack down the inflation. And so what you end up with is a jump from approximately $587 billion in servicing the interest on the national debt in the year 2019 to $1 trillion today, $1 trillion. And that's only gonna continue to grow
The amount we owe in terms of our interest bill continues to spike. So does the national debt. As late as 2014, as late as 2014, the U.S. national debt was $18 trillion. Today, the national debt is $35 trillion. In the course of one decade, we full-on doubled the national debt in this country. That is totally unsustainable. And when Kamala Harris says she's going to solve that by continuing to spend on massive social programs...
What she really means is that she's not going to solve it at all. If she believes she's going to solve our nation's economic and fiscal problems by taxing rich people, she's out of her mind. There are only two things that can happen here in order to solve this problem. One is massive economic growth, and the other is reduction in spending, and they have to be combined. The reality is the three biggest items, notice the military budget is not one of these, the three biggest items that are driving America's national debt and the interest on the national debt
are payments on the interest on our national debt medicare and social security those are the big three and we're not touching any of those until we actually lower our spending we can outgrow some of our problems but we can't outgrow all of these problems phil graham and jody errington have a piece in the wall street journal yesterday pointing out that welfare is what is eating the budget they say ask any budget expert in washington to explain the ballooning deficit and debt social security and medicare will be high on the list of causes
That's wrong. The real driver, the elephant in the room, is means-tested social welfare spending. Medicaid, food stamps, refundable tax credits, supplemental Social Security income, temporary assistance for needy families, federal housing subsidies, and almost 100 other programs whose eligibility is limited to those below an income threshold. True, Social Security and Medicare are a drain on general revenue and will become big fiscal problems if not reformed, but they aren't the major source of our current fiscal crisis because both are financed in large part by dedicated payroll taxes.
Since its inception, Social Security has bruised cash surpluses 60% of the time. In 2023, Social Security payroll taxes funded about 89% of benefits. Means-tested welfare programs, however, totaled $1.6 trillion in 2023. Welfare spending now absorbs an astonishing 73% of unobligated general revenue.
That is total revenue, net Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes, which are earmarked for those purposes, as well as interest on the public debt. It is larger than the claims against unobligated general revenue by Social Security, Medicare, and defense combined. So these gigantic welfare payments that Kamala Harris wishes to structure will only exacerbate this problem by leaps and bounds. So you can see a world where we restructure Social Security or Medicare payments.
You could see a world where we outgrow even some of our problems, but you're not going to outgrow the problem of continuing to stack debt on top of debt on top of debt, all in order to pay off particular political constituencies, which is exactly what Kamala Harris wants to do. She is promising free money and then more free money. And then after that, even more free money. That is her promise. So if you want to know whether the American economy is going to stagnate, the answer under Kamala Harris is absolutely yes.
She's going to regulate the hell out of business. She's going to tax it if it ain't dead. And then she's going to spend every dollar she can find on paying off particular political constituencies in the name of equity. Those are the things she is going to do. Pretending that she is a fiscally responsible actor is absurd. Now, both parties are fiscally irresponsible, but one is a lot more fiscally irresponsible than the other when it comes to spending on programs that never sunset and only grow.
The Democratic Party has set in place every major social welfare payment in the United States. I know some people celebrate that. That's nothing to celebrate when you're talking about a $35 trillion national debt growing by leaps and bounds every single year. And it'll only get worse under Kamala Harris. If you imagine that the economy is a horse and that horse is capable of carrying a certain amount of welfare burden, we have now stacked an elephant's worth of welfare burden on top of the horse. The horse is about to collapse.
In just one second, we'll get to President Trump, who is attempting to fight back in the campaign. First...
As we spoke about earlier, today is The Daily Wire's first ever theatrical release, Am I Racist? It's now playing in over 1,500 theaters across the nation. That's correct, 1,500 theaters coast to coast. So there's probably a theater near you showing it. That a man has been nothing short of shocking to the movie industry. Theaters were selling out during presale, something that barely ever happens. With your help, we're proving Hollywood wrong, taking on the left and their weird agenda with the most outrageous comedy to hit the big screen since Borat. It's important, the only way to see Am I Racist is in theaters starting today.
Also this Sunday, we'll be releasing a brand new episode of the Sunday special with historian Neil Ferguson. Neil, of course, is there to comment on the big interview that Tucker Carlson did with a person named Daryl Cooper with regard to the origins of World War II, in which Cooper suggested that the big villain was the American citizen.
was Winston Churchill. Neil has written many books, including a book called The Wars of the World, all about World Wars I and II. It's a great investigation into the causes of World War II, the entire history of World War II. Fascinating stuff. And Neil, of course, knows pretty much everything on this subject. Here's a bit of the trailer.
But it's a fact that Britain has become a multi-ethnic and multi-racial society as the United States is today. And London is a cosmopolitan city the way New York is. These are realities.
If your response to these cities is, I wish Hitler had won World War II, then it seems to me you really don't have a place in a serious discourse about these issues. You've exposed yourself as somebody who would like to be aligned with the genocidal killers of the 1930s and 1940s.
Don't miss this incredible episode of the Sunday special with my friend Neil Ferguson. Folks, we'll get to President Trump's campaign and how he needs to fight back against Kamala Harris in just one second. First, a little bit earlier this week, we had the opportunity to sit down with Justin Folk. He's the director of Matt's brand new movie in theaters today, Am I Racist? Here's what it sounded like.
Folks, I'm here with Justin Folk. He is, of course, a film producer and director. After working in Hollywood on films like The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions and The Incredible Hulk, Justin shifted his creative efforts to create films with a cultural impact. He produced and directed the smash hit film What Is a Woman, starring our own Matt Walsh. It's one of the most watched documentaries of
all time. It's been translated into nearly a dozen languages worldwide. And of course, he's now teamed up again with Matt and recently produced and directed the film, Am I Racist? Sets release nationwide in theaters September 13th, 2024. Justin, thanks for stopping by. Thanks for having me. So I've seen the film. It's awesome. Tell me about the genesis of this film. Where did this come from? I mean, it comes on the heels of What Is Woman. You mentioned What Is Woman there. We had great success in terms of getting a message out there, making a huge cultural impact.
So, you know, we didn't want to get off the train, honestly. We were like, we have a good thing going here with Matt and our team, awesome team of producers. And we're just like, okay, what can we do next? And what's the issue that we can do next? And how are we going to go about it? We didn't want to make a sequel, per se. So we knew we had to kind of go bigger than the last film. And so we decided, hey, how do we do this? How do we go bigger and not make just a What is a Woman Part 2, this time on Rays?
So we really kind of got a bunch of minds in a room and came up with a lot of ideas, some good, some bad, and came out the other side with this idea to take Matt on this journey and sort of do a, you know, if what does a woman kind of does a zig, this one does a zag, you know? What does a woman...
Matt learns about the issue, ultimately goes and kind of fights against it, stands up against it. In this movie, he does the opposite. He basically learns about it and becomes one of them, and we take things to their logical conclusions. So it was just...
After What Is A Woman, we decided, hey, let's do this again, but let's go bigger. Let's go bigger this time. So what's it like working with Matt? I mean, he's obviously, as Jeremy Boring puts it, sociopathic. I mean, you watch him in this film, and it's so hard to watch the interaction between him and some of these anti-racist educators and figures who are being paid thousands of dollars to be there. And Matt just keeps digging deeper and deeper with them. And every time you think that he's reached the center of the onion, there's more layers of...
of him just making it awkward with them. How is it working with Matt? I mean, Matt is like 4D chess out there. And you can't read him, right? So don't ever play poker with Matt Walsh. Just don't do it because he doesn't show anything. And so he's able to, in those conversations, he's able to kind of move it this way and move it that way, almost like a cat with a ball of yarn. He can just kind of bat that person around a little bit. You know, the scene with Robin DiAngelo is just a masterful example of Matt...
really knowing where he wants to take it and then finding the path to get there. And so he's a unique talent, obviously, to be not just a guy who knows about these ideas, but to drop him in a situation like that, that's high pressure and there's no second takes. And for him to just sort of navigate around and just sort of
kind of lead that person around like they're on a leash. It's amazing to watch. I mean, one of the questions that occurs to me, and I'm an executive producer on the film, but one of the things that occurs to me watching it, because I've only seen actually like an early product and then the very, very final form of the film, when you're doing things like there's a grief therapy session for white people, and it's unbelievable, and Matt is hysterically funny in it. I mean, how do you even...
set up that scenario? Because obviously you have cameras in the room, you have microphones in the room. People know they're on film, I would assume, while they're in the room. I mean, it's not like it's a hidden camera thing. And so were you surprised at how much people were sort of willing to be themselves in front of a camera and mic?
I mean, to a certain degree, yes. I mean, our job, my job as a director is to basically create the sandbox for Matt to play in. And there's a lot of preparation that goes into that. So that involves reaching out to these people, saying to them, hey, we'd love to film your workshop, your support group workshop. We're doing a film on anti-racism. You guys are an example of sort of anti-racism and how...
you know, how that can go. And so we would, you know, get their permission to basically just film a workshop, do their normal thing. We were like, don't change anything you're doing. We just want to observe. And then, you know, just parachuting Matt into the scene as the extra element that kind of, you know, to spice things up. So I'm always surprised when you hear these people in real life say what they have to say. And really, that's the whole point of the film, right, is to show Americans
This is what these people believe. This is what they're pushing on the rest of us. And we as Americans need to know, like, is this really direction, the direction that we want to take ourselves? And so very important just to show them in their own words. And we didn't take them out of context. We don't edit them out of context. We just show them for what they truly are, what they truly believe.
And we let the chips basically fall from there for Americans to decide. I mean, one of the things that's really striking, there's a scene that happens in the film where Matt actually just goes and talks to kind of normie Americans. He goes to a bar, and he goes to an auto shop, and he just talks with normal Americans. And the difference between kind of the normal American who just has a baseline understanding of biblical values like
be kind to your neighbor and treat your neighbor how you would want to be treated. And the pseudo-intellectual nonsense, the jargon that's just spewed by these people, it's beautifully juxtaposed. I mean, you really see in true color kind of the difference between people who are good and people who manipulate for money and for power and for grift. It's amazing. Yeah, and this isn't just a funny movie. It's a very...
It's a funny movie about a very serious topic. And so it was very important to have that contrast. It was important to have those regular everyday people that live their lives and aren't part of this crazy, crazy division that's taking place. In fact, it's actually the heart and soul of the movie. When people watch the movie, they look at the scene. We interviewed a guy named Milton down in New Orleans. And he is the heart and soul of the film.
He's just a guy that's had a good go here in America. He loves the country. And Matt sits down with him. And Matt asks him kind of these crazy questions coming from the perspective of a DEI race hustler. And he just doesn't buy it. He just starts laughing. He's like, this is crazy. And we noticed, of course, that whether they were black, whether they were white, they basically had the same exact message. Right?
when Matt talked to them, these regular everyday people. And then when we hold that in contrast to these so-called experts, these people that are pushing this stuff, it really is astounding, you know, the chasm that's there. So when you were filming it, what was the scene where you finished filming the scene and you and Matt just sort of like high-fived each other? There was a couple of those. There was a couple of those. I will say the workshop scene at the end
where, you know, it's a bit of a social experiment. We put these people in a room and Matt is teaching a DEI course based on everything he's sort of learned along the way. So these are all their ideas and we're just showing them to their logical conclusion. But at the end of that scene, we have this scene, I don't want to give away too many spoilers, but we have this crazy scene with Matt and his uncle, Uncle Frank.
And we never know how this is going to go. We thought people would walk out of the workshop because they'd be upset with Matt because how he treats his uncle in that scene. But in fact, the opposite happened. They piled on. They piled on to what Matt was doing. And that was extremely shocking. And I remember when we were done filming that, Matt walks over to me and he just is like,
Man, that was dark. That was dark. And although a funny scene, it actually kind of points to a very fundamental, kind of a deep, deep problem in our society that we've gotten this far, that people would be in a situation like that and want to pilot.
Kyle Lawn. It just shows you what this all leads to. So, you know, obviously these films are a huge process. They're a huge journey. And now at the end of this one, we're taking it to theaters. This is the first time that Daily Wire has ever released a movie in theaters. It's going to be released to at least over 1,500 screens last we heard over the weekend, which is an amazing thing for a documentary. Talk a little bit about how important that is. You've had movies in theaters before, but nothing like this.
It's a beautiful thing. I'm so proud of everybody, our distributor, SDG, and everything they've done. Of course, the Daily Wire for... I mean, nobody else would make a movie like this. Daily Wire, nobody else would do it. The collaboration with you and Jeremy Boring and everybody on the team to make this happen is a really amazing thing. And it's not easy. You know, theaters don't usually take movies like this. We had to kind of prove ourselves to do that. But
They gave us a certain amount of screens, and then pre-sales were good, and then we got to expand. But it's huge in terms of culture because people look at movies differently than they do, no offense, but podcasts and everything else. One's a permanent piece of culture, and one is day-to-day. And so for us to kind of break into that sphere is very important. And to get our message delivered to just regular, everyday Americans that may be a little bit tuned out on the issues,
But to drop this piece of culture in their laps and get them to think about these things is so important. And for us to be the ones that entertain and make people laugh, so important for us as conservatives to be able to do that. And we haven't always done it well.
Times are changing. And I'm thrilled. I'm very lucky to be part of that, you know, to be able to be, to do a movie like this with Matt and with Daily Wire. It's an incredible privilege. And we just are betting, we are absolutely betting on the fact that people will go out and support this thing. That they've
They've been waiting a long time that Hollywood has been shoveling up the drivel for so long. And now here's an opportunity to say, no, this is the type of thing that I want to support at the box office. So I think it's not just an opportunity for us as storytellers. It's an opportunity for America to go out and be like, this is the kind of thing that I want to see more of.
Well, Justin, it's an amazing piece of work. Honestly, like amazing job by you. Amazing job by Matt and folks, you really should go see it in the theater. September 13th is available. Bring all your friends because it's best watched in a group. We watched it the other night in a group together. And I got to say with a crowd, it's hysterically funny. It's really, really, really funny. You're going to enjoy it. You're going to learn a lot from it. Make sure you bring a liberal friend because they'll learn a lot from it too. Go check it out. That of course is MI Racist and you can pre-buy your tickets at miracist.com.
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Unless the moderators could be agreed upon, there's no reason for him to do it. He did not perform well the other night. The format did not suit him. He was pathologically incapable of pursuing coherent points against her. That is his fault. The moderators were awful and terrible. No good. Very bad. Independently, Trump did not do what he needed to do. However, there's still 50 days left of this campaign. And so that means he needs to be meticulously pursuing the campaign against her.
We're getting some of that. So, for example, President Trump has now said that he is going to eliminate taxes on overtime pay if he wins a second term in November. He said, I'm announcing that as part of our additional tax cuts, we'll end all taxes on overtime. That gives people more of an incentive to work. It gives companies a lot. It's a lot easier to get people. He said, when workers are past 40 hours a week, your overtime hours will be tax free. The Harris campaign then called Trump's proposal his latest snake oil sales pitch.
So it'll be fun when they adopt that plan five minutes from now, presumably, because that's what they do. However, as I say, President Trump's campaign remains somewhat discombobulated. He needs to get on the rails now. So for example, President Trump, he's so susceptible to the memes. This is why the people who surround him need to be meticulous in their approach when they speak with him. There are people who he likes, who hang out with him, who are speaking the latest internet memory into his ear.
And because that is an echo chamber, it's easy for Trump to be too online. So yesterday, for example, Trump at a rally started talking about how Kamala Harris didn't work at McDonald's. Now, we actually don't know whether Kamala Harris ever worked at McDonald's. She says she did. The Washington Free Beacon has tried to dig into that and all the rest. However, is this going to be a key point in the campaign? Or is this just going to be sort of chum in the waters for the internet types? Like, how about this? How about stick to the issues on a meticulous level? Make her answer for her record. How about that?
She's a liar. She doesn't work at McDonald's. She said she worked at McDonald's, right? Right. She worked at McDonald's and she was working so hard. There's only one problem. She didn't work at McDonald's. She's a liar. So, again, this is this is really quite useless. I don't see actually the purpose of this. Again, it might be fun for his base. The base is already jazzed. The base is ready to go. I'm going to vote for him.
Many people are already going to vote for him. We don't need this. What we need is a meticulous attack directed toward the independents in this election. And I know what I'm about to say, kind of shocking to me as well. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the voice of reason in the room. So there've been a lot of reports that Laura Loomer is hanging around with Trump. Now, listen, there are a lot of problems with Laura Loomer. Many, many issues with Laura Loomer. Foremost among them, the simple fact is that Laura Loomer is very online, like super duper online. I mean, sure, she says a lot of terrible things. She makes jokes that then Trump has to answer for.
but also like, this is all a red herring. Don't follow the shiny object in the room. Here's Marjorie Taylor green speaking some semblance of reason here. This is such an important election. I don't think that she, uh, has the experience or, or the right mentality to advise. Very important. Why do you think she's getting bad advice? He's getting bad advice from us. I'm not involved in their conversation, so I can't weigh in on that. Uh,
But I do know this, that her rhetoric and her tone does not match the base, does not match MAGA, does not match most Republicans I know. And I am completely denouncing it. I'm over it. And I would encourage anyone else that matches her statements to stop.
She ain't wrong. She ain't wrong. This election is too important to blow it over stupidity. It is. Which means it's time to recalibrate and time to get back on track. The Trump train needs to be on track if he is going to reenter the White House. Alrighty, guys, coming up, we haven't done a mailbag in a while, so that's what we're going to do. If you're not a member, become a member. Use code Shapiro. Check out for two months free on all annual plans. Click that link in the description and join us.
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They all say I'm racist. Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert. Here's my certifications. What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. This is more for you and this is for you. Is America inherently racist? The word inherent is challenging there. I'm going to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument. America is racist to its bones. So inherently. Yeah, this country is a piece of shit.
White. Folks. White. Trash. White supremacy. White woman. White boy. Is there a black person around here? There's a black person right here. Does he not exist? Hi, Robin. Hi. What's your name? I'm Matt. I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful. Never be too careful. In theaters now. Rated PG-13.
