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The Manhunt, the Manifesto and the Murder Charge

2024/12/10
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Michael Barbaro: 本期节目报道了UnitedHealthcare首席执行官Brian Thompson在曼哈顿被枪杀案的始末,包括案发经过、全城搜捕以及嫌犯最终被捕。报道中还探讨了公众对美国医疗保健系统的普遍不满情绪,以及这起案件如何反映出这种不满。 Dionne Searcy: 通过Michael Barbaro的转述,Dionne Searcy分享了大量民众对医疗保险公司的不满经历,这些经历加剧了人们对医疗保健系统的愤怒和不满情绪。这些负面经历发生在人们生命中最脆弱的时刻,这使得不满情绪更加强烈。 Maria Cramer: Maria Cramer详细描述了嫌犯Luigi Mangione的被捕过程,以及警方掌握的证据,包括嫌犯使用的“幽灵枪”、伪造证件以及一份手写宣言。宣言中,嫌犯承认了犯罪行为,并谴责了像UnitedHealthcare这样的公司。此外,Maria Cramer还介绍了嫌犯的个人背景,以及警方对其动机的推测,包括其与“炸弹客”Ted Kaczynski的思想联系。 Michael Barbaro: 本节目深入探讨了UnitedHealthcare首席执行官遇刺案,以及这起案件所反映出的美国社会问题。案件的发生、嫌犯的背景、以及公众对美国医疗保健系统的强烈不满,共同构成了一个复杂且引人深思的社会事件。

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Why did the suspect allegedly target the UnitedHealthcare CEO?

The suspect, Luigi Mangione, left a manifesto condemning companies like UnitedHealthcare for abusing the country for immense profit. He also wrote, 'These parasites had it coming,' suggesting a personal belief that the CEO's murder was justified as a form of accountability.

What evidence suggested the murder was related to healthcare issues?

Shell casings found at the crime scene had the words 'deny, defend, and depose' written on them, which are strikingly similar to the title of a book that condemns the insurance business. This tied the murder to broader public anger against the healthcare system.

How was the suspect, Luigi Mangione, eventually caught?

An employee at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania, recognized Mangione from surveillance photos released by the NYPD and called the police. Officers found him with a firearm, a suppressor, and fake identification cards.

What was the suspect's background before the alleged murder?

Luigi Mangione was a 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland family. He had a clean criminal record, worked in tech, and had a history of posting about books, including praising the Unabomber’s manifesto.

What does the public's reaction to the case reveal about their feelings toward insurance companies?

The case sparked widespread outrage and frustration, with many sharing personal stories of healthcare-related struggles. Some even expressed support for the shooter, viewing him as a symbol of resistance against a system they perceive as uncaring and exploitative.

What was the significance of the gun used in the murder?

The gun was a 'ghost gun,' assembled from parts printed on a 3D printer. It was capable of firing 9mm rounds, the same type found at the crime scene, linking it to the murder.

What charges does Luigi Mangione face?

Mangione was charged with five crimes in Pennsylvania, including carrying a gun without a license, forgery, and falsely identifying himself. He was also charged with murder in Manhattan.

How did social media react to the suspect's arrest?

An old account belonging to Mangione gained over 200,000 followers after his arrest, and the hashtag #FreeLuigi trended, reflecting a mix of support and fascination with his actions.

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The episode begins by describing the assassination of Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare, in midtown Manhattan. The narrative details the attack, the immediate aftermath, and the subsequent manhunt, highlighting the shocking nature of the event and the initial mystery surrounding the motive.
  • Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare, was shot and killed.
  • The attack was targeted and premeditated.
  • A citywide manhunt ensued.
  • Shell casings with the words "deny, defend, and depose" were found at the scene, suggesting a possible link to the healthcare industry.

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and what the case has revealed about many Americans' contempt for insurance companies. It's Tuesday, December 10th. On Wednesday morning of last week, the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare, Brian Thompson, left his hotel in midtown Manhattan for his company's investor conference a few blocks away. It was 6.45 in the morning, still mostly dark out,

And as Thompson neared his destination, a hooded and masked gunman emerged from behind a parked car

took out a gun with a silencer, and began to fire at him over and over in what's clearly a targeted attack. Chilling new details tonight following what police say was the premeditated murder of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare on the busy streets of midtown Manhattan early today. Surveillance videos of all of this, which emerged a few hours later,

shocked the city. It was so surreal. It's something that you would watch on a TV show or in a movie, this like in cold blood assassination two blocks away from my house. What I heard was that he ran up 6th Avenue and into the park. And so, you know, that would be like right here.

And just as shocking was how effortlessly Thompson's killer got away. According to the NYPD, the shooter took off through an alley, grabbing an e-bike and riding it into Central Park, which at that time was filled with morning runners and walkers. By the end of the day, a massive citywide manhunt was underway.

Cops literally fan out across Central Park. Hotel rooms are being searched. Drones are put in the air. New this morning, NYPD releasing surveillance photos of the suspected gunman at a New York hostel without a mask. Eventually, small pieces of evidence emerge. A major discovery. Police sources say they found a backpack believed to be the shooter's. No gun was found inside. What was found? A jacket and Monopoly money.

And as speculation begins about why exactly this CEO was targeted, the question naturally arises. Was this about healthcare?

And the police reveal a single piece of evidence that suggests perhaps it was. Law enforcement found shell casings at the crime scene with the words deny, defend, and depose written on them. Those words are strikingly similar to a title of a book that condemns the insurance business. Suddenly, it looks like this murder and this missing suspect have tapped into something much bigger.

I mean, every person in America has had a brush with the healthcare system that has not been...

You know, excellent, right? I spoke with my colleague, Dionne Searcy, who writes about wealth and power in New York. I got brought into this story last week, the day after the shooting, when I had noticed a lot of posts on social media, strangely in support of the shooter. You know, some of the posts were very pointed and direct and just full of malice for the victim, which is something that we don't usually see

So I just started going through tweets and going through all the networks and collecting just this kind of outrage over the healthcare system.

Let me just start off this video by saying I do not condone violence by any means, but let's talk about what happened today with the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Six months before my mom died, her health insurance let her know that all of the things that she had been prescribed and insured for for the last 10, 15 years of her life were no longer going to be covered.

There was some real anger that this unleashed. Sitting in the emergency room with my one-year-old baby, she needed to be transferred to New York City so she could have emergency brain surgery. And instead, we sat in the hospital for three days because UnitedHealthcare refused to approve the transfer via ambulance.

You know, moms who couldn't get an ambulance ride covered. So my UnitedHealthcare story is that when my son needed a special type of bed because of his disability, they denied us that. Today is a beautifully ironic day for UnitedHealthcare to deny my injections for my cancer treatments.

There's no shortage of really painful experiences. And I think why emotions are so heightened is because you interact with health insurance companies at obviously some of the worst moments of your life. When your kid is hurting or dying, when you are hurting or dying. I mean,

you're keyed up for some pretty charged emotions. You know, maybe violence is not the way. But have you read any of the comments on those videos reporting this story? People are calloused. People do not care because the health insurance companies do not care about their lives.

So plenty of people are not celebrating what happened here. They're just seeing it as a chance to... To vent? Yeah, to fume about it. Yeah, for sure. You know, medical debt is insane right now in America. And here's a guy who found a path, you know, to do something about it in the worst possible way.

And then on Monday morning, five days into this manhunt and this growing expression of fury at the U.S. healthcare system, there's a major development in the story. So I came this morning to the shack just to get a sense of the buzz. I wasn't expecting that there would be a break in the case. So I called my colleague, police reporter Maria Kramer, who works out of a small press room inside the NYPD called The Shack.

After the break, everything we now know about the suspect.

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based on what you know now, how this suspect was caught and how this manhunt came to what looks like its end. And then we'll get to what we're learning about who the suspect is and what truly motivated him. But let's just start with how he gets caught. So what we learn from our police sources and from a news conference where the police address the media... Good afternoon, everyone.

Earlier this morning in Altoona, Pennsylvania, members... On Monday morning at 9.14 at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania... The suspect was in a McDonald's and was recognized by an employee... You have an employee who notices a man eating in the restaurant, and that employee recognizes this man as the man that was photographed on various surveillance shots released by the New York Police Department...

As the person of interest in the shooting of Brian Thompson, he calls 911. He calls the Altoona Police Department. Responding officers question the suspect, who was acting suspiciously and was carrying... They find a man sitting at a table, looking at a laptop and wearing a blue medical mask. And when an officer asks him to pull down his mask and asks if he's been to New York recently...

The man becomes quiet and starts to shake. Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on his person as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon used in the murder. Eventually, they search him and they find...

A gun, they find a silencer, and they find fake identification cards. Also recovered was a fraudulent New Jersey ID matching the ID our suspect used to check into his New York City hostel before the shooting incident. Pretty distinct pieces of evidence, especially the gun and the silencer, that suggest this is most likely the gun.

Exactly. And the gun was a source of much debate online. People were trying to figure out what this gun was. And what it turns out to be is what we call a ghost gun. You know, these are guns that are assembled from parts that have been printed out from a 3D printer. And this gun is capable of firing 9mm rounds, which are the rounds that were found at the crime scene in New York.

What, Maria, do we begin to learn about this suspect, about who he is, about his biography?

So what we learn about this man is that his name is Luigi Mangione. He's 26 years old, and he seems to have come from a life of a lot of privilege. He was born and raised in Maryland. He went to a private school in Baltimore, the Gilman School. He was a wrestler there. He graduated as valedictorian. He goes on to have an Ivy League background, getting his undergrad degree and his graduate degree at the University of Pennsylvania.

And from there, he starts working in tech. He travels a little bit around the country, living in San Francisco and in Honolulu. And he has a pretty interesting online presence. It suggests he's really well-read. He's posting about books that he's read on Goodreads. And by all accounts, if you look at his background, he seems accomplished, but normal. And according to the police, from what they have learned so far about him, he doesn't have a criminal record.

There was one citation for him trespassing in Honolulu at a state park. But other than that, his record is clean, at least according to what we know so far. So what are we learning about how...

He goes from having no criminal record and having this fairly normal existence to allegedly committing murder. What are the police uncovering about any motivations? So there's very little that we know about him personally to suggest that he was going to go from valedictorian of his high school class and UPenn grad to the alleged killer of an executive in New York.

But there are some clues that the police are looking at. And one of the big ones is this three-page handwritten manifesto that the police find on Luigi Mangione when he's arrested. And what is in that manifesto as best we know? So in this 260-word handwritten manifesto, Luigi Mangione says,

is appearing to take responsibility for the murder, according to a senior law enforcement official who saw the document. And he notes UnitedHealthcare's market capitalization growing and condemns companies like UnitedHealthcare that, quote, continue to abuse our country for immense profit. And he says,

Also, in a pretty haunting part of the document, he says, quote, these parasites had it coming and, quote, I do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had to be done. Wow. Do we know if he himself personally had a bad experience with UnitedHealthcare? No.

We don't know if he had a personal experience with the insurance company, but we do know that he had been in regular contact with his friends and his family until about six months ago. That's when he suddenly stopped communicating with them.

And his friends have told us that he had been suffering from a painful back injury at the time. And that's when communication went dark and his relatives and friends began to become very anxious about him. Why hadn't anyone heard from him? The other thing we know is that in the last year, he had been writing many reviews on Goodreads, specifically one about a book called

That was written by Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber who mailed bombs to people that he felt were destroying the world with technology. Ted Kaczynski killed three people and he was seen, he was a terrorist. But in his review, Mr. Mangione describes him as a mathematics prodigy. And he tells readers not to dismiss the book as the manifesto of a lunatic. He praises him.

by saying that many of his predictions about modern society turned out to be true, so he was prescient, and he specifically says that while he was a violent individual, rightfully imprisoned for killing and maiming people, these actions, and this is a direct quote, while these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy Luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary. So there's admiration in that view of a man who did terribly violent things.

To some degree, in the name of stopping corporations from hurting the world. Exactly. So the working theory here would seem to be that Mangione, over some period of time, since he left college, became somebody who identified with these efforts to take on corporate America, perhaps specifically the healthcare industry, out of some belief, allegedly, that, like the Unabomber,

he could single-handedly hold them to account. At this point, that is a theory that many people hold, but we really don't know what happened to Luigi Mangione. What awaits Mangione now in the legal system, assuming that police in New York line all this evidence up and decide that he is their suspect in the murder of Brian Thompson?

So just a few minutes ago, Luigi Mangione arrived at the Blair County Courthouse in Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania. He was led out of the car by two officers who walked him in, his hands bound behind his back. And there was a huge media presence there. Here he is being brought in.

into a courthouse, not to face murder charges, but to face gun charges. He's there for a preliminary arraignment. And then what's going to happen is prosecutors there will decide whether they want to carry out these charges against him in Pennsylvania or if he can be extradited to New York for presumably, potentially, murder charges for the killing of Brian Thompson. So, Maria, stepping back just a little bit,

I'm curious, at this point, how you're thinking about this overall case and the meanings that it's taken on. We spoke earlier today with our colleague Dionne Searcy about just how much this case, before there was a named person of interest, before there was an arrest, has become about America's healthcare system and people's frustration with it. And, of course, it's a cold-blooded murder, right? And yet it's also become...

You know, and I think that's a really interesting question that I've been thinking about myself because I've been thinking about this for a long time.

to the police, to prosecutors, to the detectives who've been looking into this and talking to Brian Thompson's family and colleagues and friends, this is a homicide. This is a murder they have to investigate. This is a murder they have to solve. To many in the public and even some officers that I've spoken with, it's something that underscores the anger and the frustration at a system that they feel they have no control over.

And yet it's such a huge part of their lives, their health care and how they pay for it. So I wonder, as this case unfolds, will the public's perception of him change as we learn more about what motivated him when he did what he allegedly did, which is kill a man who was heading to a meeting, a father of two, and a person who is missed by colleagues, is missed by friends, is a human being.

To many, he represents this avaricious industry, but he's also a person who was murdered in cold blood. And his killer, in the minds of the police, in the minds of investigators, in the minds of prosecutors and his family and friends, he needs to be brought to justice. So does this investigation reveal more about him that makes the public think twice about this folk hero status that some have attached to him?

Well, Maria, thank you very much. We appreciate it. Thank you so much. After we spoke with Maria, Mangione was charged with five crimes in Pennsylvania, including carrying a gun without a license, forgery, and falsely identifying himself to the authorities. A few hours later, prosecutors in Manhattan charged him with murder.

On social media, an ex-account belonging to Mangione gained more than 200,000 followers after his arrest, and the hashtag FreeLuigi was trending across the platform. We'll be right back.

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