Swinton felt displaced as a child because she was raised in an aristocratic Scottish military family that did not fully embrace her artistic inclinations. She later discovered that her family had a lineage of artists, which she felt was underplayed.
Derek Jarman, who was terminally ill, modeled a refusal to look away from the reality of his mortality, which Swinton found deeply influential. Jarman's acceptance and even exhilaration in facing his limits profoundly affected Swinton's view on life and death.
Swinton believes art offers a space for stillness and reflection, allowing for the formation of connections and resonances that can lead to new thinking. She suggests that art, particularly cinema, serves as an empathy machine, inviting viewers to step into others' shoes and potentially reconnect with innate human goodness.
Swinton downplays her acting role because she never set out to be an actor and feels a fraud claiming to be one. She sees acting as a collective activity rather than a solitary pursuit, working in concert with her colleagues rather than as a solo endeavor.
Swinton advises identifying one's original setting or core drive, such as her own quest for connection, and honoring it without betraying it. She believes enjoying the quest and staying true to one's intrinsic motivations can help shape a fulfilling life.
The Academy Award-winning actress discusses her lifelong quest for connection, humanity’s innate goodness and the point of being alive.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.