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Hello and welcome to The Daily Show Ears Edition. This is Desi Lydic. You might have seen that The Daily Show won an Emmy last week, and Jon Stewart had a very special shout-out. But if you really want to know the heart and soul of the team, if you really want to know the keeper of the flame of The Daily Show, Miss Jen Flans is our executive producer. And Jen, Miss Jen Flans has been there since 1998. And...
Just say to the people. - I love our show and I love the people we work with and I love working in TV, so thanks. - I love John.
So here with me today is the Keeper of the Flame, captain of the ship, it's showrunner, EP, and writer, Jen Flans. Welcome. The Keeper of the Flame makes me feel like I'm in the Olympics and I'm running with a torch, which is hilarious because I don't run. No. And I'm afraid of fire. But like, whatever. I love it. But it is basically the Olympics, your job. It's so nice.
I was like, I couldn't hear anything on stage. So like, I didn't know he said that till later. I mean, I knew he was saying something nice, but I didn't follow the words. And then when I saw Keeper of the Flame, I was like, wow, that makes me sound so much more athletic in my mind than I am. You were the Gabby Thomas of late night. Just running. You are just running. It was such a beautiful, well-deserved shout out.
And I think anyone who knows The Daily Show, even remotely, knows that you are the keeper of the flame, that you are the glue that holds everything together. You are the Olympian. What were you thinking in that moment? Well, thank you for saying that. I love talking, and I don't love speaking publicly. Oh, yeah. So I was like, oh, no, John. Like, mm-mm, no. But I was also very...
very, very flattered. And I was just so happy we won. I mean, you know, like this iteration of The Daily Show and the fact that you, let's please acknowledge that you also won an Emmy and also got a shout out because the four, I mean, John has won before, but you, Costa, Klepper, and Ronnie, it was your first one. And it was just like so awesome to see.
And to be there for it. And I really feel more than ever like this iteration of the show is just like such a good version of what we've done and a real like build on where the show has gone for the last few years. But I was thinking, oh, my God, I hate talking in public. Did you know that he was going to toss it to you? You know, he he he said like.
I'm going to say something. And I said, you say my name. I'll wave. And he said, OK. So that's what I expect. Like I was, you know, on the way up. He's like, OK, I'm going to say something. I was like, oh, God. And then I was going to wave. And then he's like, no, no, no. You get up here. I'm so glad he did. You know what, John? And this is I literally coming to this realization right now. John has pushed me out of my comfort zone so many times.
to do things that I didn't know that I could do, that he believed that I should and could do. And that was just another example of it. But, you know, he really has like been such a mentor to me and encouraged me and always treated me just like he knows that I can do things and he just
And I'm the kind of person that's never going to say no. If you want me to do it, I will do it. But there's definitely been a million times over the years. And that was one of them where I'm like, I don't know if I can do this. But sometimes I'm just like, well, if he thinks...
If he thinks I can do it, I can probably do it. I want to ask more about that. But I have to acknowledge in this moment, speaking personally, you have taken on that quality as a leader and spread that to other people. Because there are a thousand times when I have been here at the show and gone, I can't do that. I don't I've never done that before. I don't know if I can do that. And you so confidently are like, you can do that. Go right out there and go do it. We're going to do this.
And I'm like, well, Jen Flan says I can. So I guess that's what we're doing. It does. I will tell you that because I first of all, I think you can do anything.
But you can do no wrong. I laugh every time. I can't run. I also can't run. We have that in common. Neither of us. But I feel like I know I've done that with you where I'm like, no, you can. Because I think, and I hate to make it like a woman thing, but it's like sometimes women doubt themselves more than men. Men just go and do it. And I have been like, I'm going to make sure that you know that you can do it because...
Because you can. And that goes with hosting or, you know, going out into the field, doing a big interview, whatever it is. And also, I'll always be honest with you. If there's something I think you can't do, like, you know, I don't know, bench press 200 pounds. Like, I'm going to tell you. No, I can do it. I can do it. I'm going to be... Yeah, no, I can totally do that. You know what? I didn't expect that about you. Now that I know, I'll only encourage you. You do that for everyone here at the show, though. And I think that that's...
a quality, one of the many qualities that I admire about you, but you have a way of empowering everyone around you, everyone here at the show, and helping them build confidence, giving them the trust that they can do their job while also gently guiding them towards a vision. Was that something that you picked up along the way or was that something that you feel it's just innate in you? You know what?
I'm a big sister. I'm the oldest of four. My parents trusted me to...
and really watch and parent my siblings. So being a big sister is like kind of, I don't always, this is the role I was meant to play, right? Like I'm just, I'm a big sister in life. I'm a big sister at the Daily Show. And I really hesitate to be like, I'm a mom. I'm not a mom. I can't take care of you completely, but I can encourage you and cheer you on. And I think that I love being a manager and I love managing a process and I love managing people and making them like,
I feel like when people are the best version of themselves, we make the best version of the show. And I really have always thought like, I am not good at much, but I am good. I think I'm good at seeing talent in other people and putting the right players in the right positions and like coaching. And
Like being a team coach. And that's essentially what it is, right? That's what the job that I ended up with is. And I love that. I think we have so many talented people here and it's just a matter of like putting them all in the right positions so that we like win the World Series. You are good at a lot. You say you're not good at much. You are good at a lot of things. You have to be to be in your position. So like John mentioned, you started at the show in 1998 as a PA. True story. When you...
First of all, like talk about the differences in the show. I'm sure it's immense, but just even like the production wise, the analog version of The Daily Show versus now. I mean, my first day I started as a PA, I got a pager. We didn't have cell phones really. I mean, I had my own that like,
was on my family plan my parents had one in like you can only use this in an emergency like if you get in a car accident or your car breaks down yeah like that 143 I love you do you remember that I had a pager in 92 oh the pagers were like boobs like everybody wrote boobs um but yeah so when I started here it makes me sound like a dinosaur but I we got a pager um and
And my pager literally never went off the whole time I had it. But I had it for, like, whatever, like, two years or something. Do you still have the pager? I wish. Oh, damn. We had to give them back to, like, Nextel or something. Oh, Nextel. Whatever, like, company we were renting them from. It's a deep cut. It was a deep cut. Nextels were, like, a huge thing during – for the daily show during, like, one of the conventions. I want to say –
I want to say it was 2000 was our first experience with them. But like we were walkie talking each other all over the place. And that was kind of the first way you could text. It was, or that the daily show could text. But anyway, yeah. So the, the,
The immense difference between the technology then and now is also why I encourage people who are good at their jobs to do them because I'm not sure I could learn all the technology now. But we – yeah, we used to – like it would be on tape. So like the field shoots would go out. They'd come back and they'd have tapes. You'd have like, oh, my God, this field producer shot nine tapes. Are they psychotic? Like –
Oh, I remember Stu Bailey used to come back with only like three or four. And we'd be like, we love him. He's the best field producer because we don't have to log so many tapes. Oh, my God. And did they also shoot with one camera? So they would do one side first and then shoot the other? Yes. If you needed a two camera shoot, it was like very expensive. And they really had to consider who the interview was with. Wow. But yeah, it was so different. I mean, even like when I was a PA. Yeah.
There were four of us and each one of us had a late night. So like, I don't remember, maybe mine was Wednesdays. And you would take the actual tape of the show, like we'd record it to tape. You'd have to wait here until the edit was done. Take the edited master down to...
HBO downtown was like on 23rd Street and we were on 57 and just like in a cab and you were delivering the master. And it's the only way the show got out at night. So like there was this immense pressure because the technology was not up to speed where you're just like, I hope this takes...
like, God forbid I get like kidnapped in this cab right now. Like I have the show or like, Oh, I love it. That is such a producer. You were destined to be an EP because you're, you thought that way. You're like, you're not, you're not like, Oh no, my, what would my parents think if I got kidnapped? You're like, what would happen to the show? That is, this show would not air that night. So it was like, there used to be a guy that you drop it off to a
Just a one person, and he'd like sometimes go out for a cigarette, and if you dropped it, you'd leave it on his chair, and you're like, I hope nobody moves this before he comes back from his cigarette. This is the show. So, yeah. So the technology, it's really the updates. And listen, we didn't have email. I remember using my own Hotmail account when I started recording.
We had the day this office that we figured out we could do AOL instant messenger to each other's computers. I mean, forget it. Like we were. New world. New world. The world is your oyster. I can't. Slack wasn't even a figment of my imagination. Oh, my God. We've come so far. We've come so far. Walk me through the process of your of your job titles throughout the years. Like I remember you. So that you started out doing those types of jobs. I remember you telling me that you one of my favorite business.
bits on The Daily Show was Beth Littleford coming in with the Vaseline lens interviews, hiding behind that big flower. The Beth Littleford interview. Yeah, they were amazing. And you used to set the flowers? I bought and set the flowers. I actually made a deal with a deli down the street, a corner deli that had like only New York bodegas, tons of flowers. And the guy, you know, we had like a friendship.
I would go in every few weeks, get a ton of flowers for best interviews and set them up. Yeah. So that was one of my, I mean, I like, I've done a lot of jobs here. So that was my, as a PA, I did that. But then like that kind of translated to when I was a coordinator, then I,
Really was like managing all the PA's runs to get the props and other things like talk about technology. We used to rent movies at the video store. And so I made friends with this guy, Alan, who used to own Alan's Alley. And it was a video store down in
actually like 22nd Street and it was Alan's Alley sounds like an adult video store it does and I think it did have a back room but Alan was basically like he was the best guy he was so nice on the phone all the time he loves it's closed now obviously nobody's renting the videos but like he used to screen videos I'll be like oh do you have any can you think of a movie where there's an avalanche and somebody falls off a cliff but like maybe they don't die and they pop back up and he'll be like
We need it for the show. And he would know off the top of his head like three movies and then screen them for me before I sent a PA down to go pick up the tape to bring it back to the show. So he was like kind of an employee. Alan was the original Google. He was the original. Poor Alan was replaced by Google. Oh, my God. Poor Alan. And then, I mean, when the store was closing, Elise and I went down and we said goodbye to him.
What's Alan doing now? I don't know, but I wish I knew. He was so nice. If only we had an Alan to search up what Alan is doing. You know what? I'm going to Google it as soon as we're done with it. Alan, if you're out there, give us a call. Let us know what you're up to. Call me.
Yeah. So we had, I mean, there were other video stores we also called, but we always called Alan's first because he was so nice and cooperative. And then you went, so PA to production coordinator. Actually, I was assistant production coordinator. Then I was production coordinator. Then I was a production manager. Then I was...
A coordinating producer, which was kind of when I straddled from like being more in the production track to more creative. And it really was a product of me being like, hey, I can't do budgets. I'm really bad with money. I don't think that that's the track I should be on. But I do love managing and I love managing a process. And there's actually nobody here who really is translating the creative, the scripts and everything to creative.
and to making sure that it gets done. Like, there's a wide gap between, like, oh, people should read the script and, like, just interpret, you know, like, who's talking here? And it's kind of like a trend of my career here has been, like,
just finding gaps and being like this is something that seems like somebody should do it I'd love to do it defining your own role yeah and it was yeah something that like didn't I made up the title coordinating producer from like looking at IMDB and other shows I'm like hey we don't have that title here what if I had that
And anyway, so the recording producer, then I was a supervising, then I was a co-EP, then an EP, and then EP showrunner, writer. What a great lesson for people to learn. Like, if you don't see a place for you within your workplace, write your own ticket. See a place that they might need somebody to do something. Think outside the box. Create your own role. I was a little Wild West-y back in the day. You know, it was a
half the size staff that we have now. So there was more room for
But yeah, I think, I mean, people are always like, oh, did you always want to be a showrunner? I'm like, no. And I feel like I give the worst career advice because I'm like, no, don't dream big. Just keep doing your job really well. And then the next thing will come. And so it's kind of been my, I mean, listen, I love what I'm doing. And I am so glad to be the showrunner here. But I was never like a PA and thought, oh, I could be this.
Like I could be Madeline, the woman who used to run the show. I was like, I want to be a really, really good PA. And then I got a promotion. And then it was like, okay, I want to be a really, really good assistant production. And then things just kept coming. So I don't know if that's... Was there a moment in time that you thought, I do want to be the showrunner? No. No.
Was it when John asked you to be the showrunner? Totally. Like, it was, you know, it was... I think it's a confidence thing, you know? And I think that I...
I wish that I was as confident as like, yes, I should be in charge here. But I was like, oh, I like doing this or I'm good at doing this. I'm good with people. I'm good at translating the funny to the actual physical, how it's going to manifest in the studio. And I think that I love that he saw that in me and that that could keep, you know,
my career, you know, growing and to a place where it is now. And then obviously like Trevor also had a big hand in it when he got here. He was like, I was, you know, already one of the EPs and then he was like,
you know, basically like, I trust you. What do you think, you know, about how to run this place? And, and so that gave me even more confidence. It was, it was also a lot because I was here with John. I was mentored under John. I knew how to make the daily show. And when Trevor got here, he was new. And then all of a sudden I'm the,
like elder expert that knows how to run the place. And I was like, oh, well, somebody has to do this. So it's got to be, I got to do it. I know I've been here. I know how to do it. And so Trevor putting that trust in me also just like kept it going. And then John coming back and being like, I can't even, you know, we've evolved the show so much since he left. Oh yeah. And expanded social podcasts, you know, activation spaces are the way we run the news team. You guys at Desk,
in addition to him we did guest hosts it's like he's like I cannot believe you know what you've done here which is was really really a great feeling for him to just be like impressed I'm like it's like when your parents come to see you at work or something and you're just like oh I want to show you everything I can do I know I talk about it I know I've talked to you about it but like look
It's Jon Stewart. And he taught me everything. So yeah, it was, I think our first live show with him back here, he, after the show said to me, he's like, what you guys do, this is like,
What we did like on crack like this is just beyond what we used to do. And it is I hate to say it's it's a lot because of the technology. Right. A lot more. Right. But I think our team is just so tight. We have a shorthand. We kind of thrive on that like deadline deadline thing.
Yeah. And and he was just like, wow, you guys, you really elevated like you raise the game here. How did that feel? It felt so good. It felt so good to be like, I didn't only keep this place like your legacy intact, but but you're you think I elevated it. And that is so it meant so it just like.
And working together again has meant so much in that, one, he's just fun. You know. He's a great guy. It's really fun to hang out with him. He's just like... Truly the best. The best. He's everything you want him to be and so much more. He is. And it's so funny when people are like, let's see. I'm like, he's just like exactly what you think. He's what you think he's like. Yeah, he's exactly what you think he's like. He's awesome. And yes, he's a really good hang. But in addition to that, it's been so nice to show him...
what we can do here, you know, and how much like it doesn't. When he was here round one, he was, you know, by the end of it, he was in charge. He screened every piece. He signed off on every pitch. He signed like he was in managing. He people want him like I want to raise. I'm like, dude, like how I think back and I'm like the amount of work that was on his. No wonder he burned. You know, it was like, hey, I got to step back. This is.
A lot of work. Yeah. And to be able to take some of that off his plate for him only because he stepped away, came back and it was already parsed out to other people. Why take it back on? Has been really nice to just like let him focus on the thing that he's amazing at. Yeah. Which is he was actually good at all of it, which is the crazy part. Like everything.
It's great. He's really just good at everything. But it's been nice to be like, I know you can do all the other stuff, but like, why don't you just focus on what you want to say and the point of view of the show and helping us all focus on, you know, what kind of content we're going to do and not worry about like...
If our recycling, you know, if we're doing paper and plastic or just plastic, you know, like he's involved in every, every, every discussion he would be involved in. So it's been really nice to be able to like take a little of that pressure off his plate and just be like, just have like fun. Like go out and say what you want to say. So great for him to walk back into this and just know he's in the absolute best hands. The show is in the best hands. We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back.
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We're back with Jen Flans. You've seen so many evolutions of the show from 1998 with Craig Kilbourne and then John coming in and basically defining modern political satire. And then Trevor coming in and evolving it to his version of the show with you. And then the guest host era and now John being back and there being sort of this ensemble version of
What's your North Star or your main tenets of keeping the DNA of The Daily Show through each evolution? Truly, you know, a lot of it's John's like...
let's like have a good time. Like I really am live by like if we're making something good here, it will translate. Right. Like if we're making something we feel good about, we believe in, makes us laugh, then it will translate to the audience and never really getting caught up in like the ratings or the press or listen, I love
I love to get good press. Unless it's good press. Unless it's good. When it's good press. When it's good press, you get caught up in it. But the bad we ignore. Yeah. But the like social mentions, like things that like you kind of...
have to tune it all out and make the thing that you believe is the show that we should be putting out in the world. And it was always like, listen, if we put out something and we get canceled, then that's... But we went down feeling good about it, you know, giving it our best instead of just like chasing ratings or something like that. So that was always... And listen, the Comedy Central execs, like, you know, I remember Doug, Michelle Kent, like,
And even still now with Chris and Nina, like, we aren't held to a rating. You know, listen, ratings are important. But it just doesn't guide anything. And I think that it translates on screen when you're having fun in the building. And I, like, love to, like, throw a party, have everybody, like, everybody together, having a good time. And I think that, like, party planner in me just also, like,
brings that vibe to the show, which is like, let's just make sure we're having fun. Because if not, I think on screen it looks like pained. Yes. We feel that. Yeah. And I feel like, listen, we've had weeks or shows where you feel it. Like,
People are tired. And I think it translates on screen. You really are so good about that because I feel like you're always optimistic. You always rally the troops. You make sure that we are having a great time. Doesn't matter what's going on. Good snacks all around. Good snacks all around. It's important. Egg sandwich Wednesdays. Obviously. I'm like, it really...
It's also like, it's not just me. Like the team here, we've been together for so long. People are friends. You know, it's like cozy environment. We have this studio. We're far from everything in the world. We're like out on way over, almost in the Hudson River. And near the horse stables and nothing else. We're kind of like isolated and insular. Yeah. And I think that works in our favor, you know. I'm curious about...
Was there ever a time you talked about John being so instrumental as a leader and kind of pushing you out of your comfort zone and him saying that he believes in you even if you weren't quite ready yourself? Was there ever a moment when you started to doubt yourself and how did you persevere? I think I doubt myself at almost every moment. I'm like all the time. I think that I...
Yeah.
But it comes from a place of like I don't want to disappoint people. And then I do it and then I'm like, oh, cool, I could do that. Now I have the confidence next time to do it. And you'd think you'd remember that the next time you're in that situation. But then you doubt yourself again. Do it all over again. But I have a fake it till you make it attitude. Yeah. Just fake it. Like put on a smile. Go out there. Get it done. You won't –
you'll get it done. And what's the worst thing that can happen if you don't? Yeah. You leave the tape in the cab and the show never airs, you know, and that will never happen. It will never happen on my watch. Yeah, exactly. Um,
That is I think that's actually an incredibly confident way of looking at it to make it about the team. Like I'm here for the show and I want to do what's best for the show and with my team and I don't want to let people down. So that's a very confident thing to do. I think the insecure thing to do is to make it about yourself and think about, you know. You're always so nice. I'm not being nice. It's the worst thing about you. Yeah. Well, well, let me tell you. Listen.
I appreciate that. I want you to know, just because you're my boss, I'm not here for softball questions. Okay? I'm going to ask you the hard-hitting questions. Ask me all the hard-hitting questions. All right. I know you can. Are you ready? I have confidence in you. What is your favorite color? Turquoise. Wow. Or aqua. I never know what to call it, but I love it. Follow-up question. Which one is it? Turquoise or aqua? I say turquoise. I think turquoise.
Because it's like the color of the water when you go to the Caribbean. Like that color is my favorite. It makes you think of vacation. It automatically puts me in the best mood. It's just like calming. Yeah. Okay. Favorite food. Favorite food. That's hard. That's a hard hitting one. Yeah. I really can't. I mean, french fries are undeniable. Excellent answer. If you put them in front of me, I will eat them. But ice cream, it depends. Mint chip? Yeah.
I love Briar's Manship, the white one. Oh, yes. White Manship is like the best. That one is my favorite Manship. Yeah. I do want to ask. Okay. So I
I get this question all the time and part of me really hates it, but I have to bring it up. Like being a woman in comedy, being a woman in late night, is it something that you think about? Because there's something, there's part of me that's like, I don't want to, I don't fucking think about it. I'm just in comedy. Stop asking the question. I would love to not have to talk about it being a rarity that women are in late night. But at the same time, it is true that sometimes you're the only woman in the room.
or one of few women in the room. Is it something that you pay much attention to? You know what? I didn't until it was like the conversation. So like for like the first 15 years I worked in TV, I didn't even think about it. Right. And like there were women at The Daily Show. So I never...
It didn't occur to me. I guess, you know, I knew there weren't late night shows hosted by women, but I also like grew up like loving Letterman and loving Conan. And so I wasn't like, oh, damn, I wish it was a woman. Right. I was just like, I love this show. Yeah. So I didn't really think about it. And I kind of, I feel bad that I didn't think about it. Like, I'm like, oh, should I have been more? I think that you don't, you don't like a plan on being like a trailblazer. Yeah. Right? Like, you just like.
like, look back and you're like, oh, that was, I have blazed a trail. Yeah, yeah. But, like, I didn't think about, oh, making sure more women are in the room. Because it was always like, let's just get the best person for this job. And many times it was women. And
Oftentimes it was men, and I now think about it in a way of, like, trying to keep some balance. Yeah. Because it helps in the room for perspective. Like, you and I know, like, there are jokes that, like, when we're in a room together with, like, Sarv, like, we'll laugh at it. Yes. And maybe the guys aren't laughing. Yeah. And you're like, well, 51% of our audience will laugh. That's right. Because they are... You know, it's like half the world is women. Yeah.
But there are certain things that like make us laugh and don't make men laugh because the references aren't resonating with you or whatever. So I think just for the sake of like rounding out a show and making sure that you're reaching all parts of the audience, it is a really important thing to have all genders in the room. But I will say like I don't.
I don't think about like, are they talking to me that way because I'm a woman? Right. I really try to not. It's not at the forefront. I try not to make it that because I feel like sometimes it puts you in a place where you're
looking for the room to be against you if it's like too heavily weighted. Like I feel like when you are like, I am the only woman in this room, you're automatically a little bit like alone and on the defensive. Whereas like if I look at it like I'm sitting in a room with people I like love working with that make me laugh every day. Mm hmm.
These are my friends. These are my coworkers. And I love them. And they happen to be men. They also happen to be evolved men. And if there's something that they don't get in the room... They're not, like, grabbing my butt. They're just, like, they are men. Well, lucky for you, all right? No, but, you know, it's like they are very evolved men. They are. And they'll ask if there's a joke that they don't get. They'll say, why is that funny? Or why, you know? Or, like, does this offend you? And I think having... I think coming at...
or any room you're in, all of our meetings, from a place of like, this is a community, this is an organization,
a welcome warm room to be in and not like I'm alone or I'm one of two or I'm one of, you know, like counting up the numbers. It just, I don't think that's productive for a creative environment. I think, I think at like a level of hiring, you should be aware so that those rooms are mixed and diverse at some point when you're in them. But once you get in those rooms, I think it's
not the right thing to focus on. I mean, we make a show four nights a week. We have a really quick turnaround. To sit there and be on the defensive just feels like it would...
take away from, you know, what you could possibly put out that night. Right. I totally agree. What would you say to someone who wants to have your job one day? Someone who wants to work in TV, particularly other women coming up and look at you and go like, God, I want to do what she does. What advice would you give? I would advise...
I mean, I think work really hard. Work hard at the job that you have. Learn as much as you can. I think one of the reasons I'm good at what I do, and as I say it, I'm like, oh my God, that sounds so self-centered. But like, no, one of the reasons I'm good at what I do is because I've done so many different jobs here and I know what, it makes you like know what everyone does and appreciate what everyone does and how hard people work. And even if it's a job you haven't done, it's like you know what their role is. And I think working your way up
I think, you know, it's a generally rational thing now. And I hate to be like, I'm old. But like, I know that there's a thing where like people are PAs and they're like, I want and I want to be a showrunner now. And you're like, oh, but if you like take the time to like work your way up and like learn everything, you're going to be such a better showrunner.
Great advice. And just be honest with people. And I don't think you have to be sugary sweet. I don't think you have to be nice, good mood all the time. I think it's good to be respectful of the people you work with. I think it's important to go home at night, be able to look yourself in the mirror and say, I'm a good person. I feel good about the person I was today. And I think that makes you a good leader and
Yeah, that's my advice. I think work hard and be nice. Work hard and be honest. Ooh, great advice. Work hard. Tell people their drugs are bad when they're bad. I mean, that is really part of it. I know I can always count on you for that. Like, guys, I'm not laughing.
that joke tanked we're cutting it like I love that part of my job we fully appreciate it honesty thank you for being the one to do that so we don't do that in front of everyone else Jen Flans thank you for being the keeper of the flame I am eternally grateful to you for a million reasons I'm not gonna cry right now but I love you to bits I love you to bits I'm like I really thanks it's hard I hate talking about myself but talking about myself with you made it okay I love talking about you
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