EP.137 - TITANIC SUBMARINE THEORIES, CRAZY GEOCACHE DEATH STORY & HOODED WOMAN WITH NO FACE
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Yeah, but obviously I knew you were gonna start with, oh, submarine. Of course. It's the most big news right now, so. Alright, what's your theory? My theory? Okay. So I have one where it's like, obviously if you're rich. Yeah. And you have some like legal thing against you. Maybe like it might be a sexual assault or they're billionaires. So it's probably like something like embezzlement. Like you owe money to someone.

And you want to disappear. And, like, that's the perfect way to fucking fake your death, fam. Go on a submarine that's built with fucking rocks and sticks and it's controlled by a thing. That's so obvious. I thought of the other theory where, like, they were killed off. Yeah. Because that's what I thought it was going to be. Why would they be killed off? Because check this out. Did you know Mr. Beast was supposed to be on the submarine? You heard about that? That was a fake text. What? Yeah. So if you look in the picture when he sent it out.

He was the one that texted himself. So if you get sent a text, it would be gray. But if you send a text, it would be blue. Go look at the picture you saw. Mr. Beast, but he said it. I don't think Mr. Beast lies like that. Why would Mr. Beast lie like that? I don't know, but everyone's calling it a bluff because it is a blue text. So why would he send himself that text? You know what I mean? It's a blue... No, that's him replying. Yeah, that's him replying. So why would he reply with that message? Like, do you want to come on...

the uh the submarine you know it didn't make sense let me see yeah go go hold on yeah wait hold on because i saw it on six buzz let's see mr beast submarine look also i'm going to the titanic and a submarine late this month the team would be stoked to have you along the team would be stoked what are you talking about look so it's blue

Yeah, and then look everyone saying all because it's in blue. That's it's sent. Yeah, so isn't it your text if it's blue? Why it is the text in blue bro? He texted himself. So I already do that then for to get more clout off the situation Wow, he's died looking like algorithmic like he'd fake it like that. Yeah. So what are people talking about now? Mr. Beast? It makes the most sense

That's crazy. I swear this whole thing too is like a popularity thing too. Cause watch, say, say I'm a, I'm a billionaire. Yeah. And they say, Oh, I've gone missing. But,

If in the next week, they actually like this whole thing blows up and they come back to thing, watch all the news broadcasters get them on their show. They get to tell these amazing stories of, oh, look what I did. How they survived and stuff. How they survived. This might be all for attention. No, but it's confirmed like it's exploded, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the submarine's gone.

It's confirmed. Yeah, that's what they said. They found it. I think they found it. They find it or not. Cause they, they know it like crushed. It got crushed. Yeah. The pressure. So people are dead regardless. But the real question is if they were sent there on purpose or they made the whole ordeal on purpose.

'Cause if the Mr. Beast thing is true, the way I saw it was that they're gonna take people they wanted killed off. - Killed off? - That's what I thought. - Okay. - 'Cause it makes sense. Now, I don't know if you know this, but the creator of the submarine, they're actually in cahoots with the WEF. And we don't have to get into that, 'cause that's like, you know, that's like dangerous talks. But the owner of the submarine and that whole mission is WEF.

Weird. Okay. And they're dealing with billionaires and shit too. Yeah, yeah, obviously. So they would be in coots. Okay, I'm going to flip it then. Maybe that's what they want you to think. Like going down there is to get killed. But what if, you know how we talk about nuclear wars, shit like that.

Where if a nuclear war happens, where would you want to go to be safe? What if actually all those these billionaires they choose they disappear in the bait like And there's actually a base there obviously it's just theory Yeah, but wouldn't that make the most sense if there's a nuclear war you wouldn't want to be on land I guess so. It's like you mean like under underwater bunker. Yeah, like why would they pull mr. Beast? He's a billionaire come with us. Yeah, you know and

No, but I don't think you want to want to disappear. You really think the world's going to end like that? Uh, you never know. Maybe they're predicting. You see the Simpsons predicted it? But if it was really like nuclear war, I would assume all, like a whole bunch of billionaires would go at the same time. If I see like a spaceship and bare billionaires are hopping on, then it's wrapped. Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, if they're all hopping on a plane, then it's wrapped.

Yeah, it's obvious. They got us. They got us. It's wrapped. I like. Because if it's just like a handful of them, I don't know. But if it's a lot,

It makes sense. Yeah. Obviously this is all theories because, fam, this is such a weird event that went on. Yeah. Like, why would they do this? You know? There's so many possibilities. I feel like it's a joke too. It's a joke? I feel like it's a joke too because they really had the controller running their shit. Did you see the controller? Bro, this is how you know our generation. Whenever anything happens, it's the most unserious. Because they make memes. It'll be a meme right away. I've seen some thing that was like, oh, we're out here so worried and they're chilling by the Krusty Krab. Oh,

The men are at Krusty Krab right now. But that's how you know, bro. Okay, if you had an opportunity to go on something that's extravagant like that, would you second guess now because of that event? Like they invited me? Invited you to even like space or invited you to something obscure. Would you now second guess because of that event? I feel like I would.

because now everything seems fishy yeah no it depends on who i'm going with if it's like just actually no it doesn't really yeah because i was gonna say if i'm with billionaires then it's kind of fishy but even if i'm with normal people and they're sending me up to space because it doesn't matter yeah because oh this is scary to think but realistically if somebody super rich wanted to you know i mean they would put you in a setting that you would have no idea

Like, it would just feel like regular life to you. Yeah. Like, you'd go on a vacation. You know what I mean? You're on a boat one day. No, but underwater is the best, like, way to take someone out because, fam, if they took, like, what is it, 71 years to find the Titanic? Yeah. They're not finding that. I watched this video a long, long time ago. It's on YouTube. And the number one way to fake your death is on water. Right.

So you either take a ship out into the middle of the ocean or you do something regarding water and you disappear. Because for them to find your body, it's going to be so, so... Because if you think about it, we don't really realize. Yeah.

The depths of water are as tall as like the Mount Everest. Yeah, fam. It goes deep and it goes wide. Like we can only see the surface level. The moment you look in and imagine you're a fish. Yeah. And you can see everything throughout. Bro, it's bigger than the land because water takes up more than earth and land. Yeah, yeah. And obviously since we don't know what's down there, like all the creatures and shit, what if the whole time, like the oxygen didn't go out? Like...

like a shark or a big, big object underwater actually just fucked up the submarine. We don't know that, you know? You know what we need, bro? What? We need like, we need to, no, no, we need to put like tech onto like a fish that can, that can swim.

Oh, that's what, um, that's what, um, uh, oh no, it's not, it's not that. Nevermind. Cause that, that's kind of like what the, the Simpsons had. Remember this? So everyone's saying it, they predicted it again. Yeah. So they made like two submarines that you can actually go and, and try to see all the wildlife underwater. And then, and then, uh, in one scene, all you see Homer's like stuck in like this coral reef. Right. Yeah. And then on the side, it says oxygen, low oxygen, lower. Hmm.

No oxygen. So you're saying they predicted the submarine. Yeah, they predicted the submarine. And do you know the cricket? Oh, no, no. Was it the cricket? Yeah, it was crickets in Nevada. So crickets have been coming out of random houses and filling the streets. So there's a bunch of crickets, right? In one of the Simpsons episodes, they have the same one except caterpillars.

So the caterpillars stopped everything. Everyone had to stop staying in their houses. And now it happened in Nevada. But that always happens, though. That always happens in Oklahoma. But of this degree, though? Like flooding the streets. Imagine the crickets. Nah, fam. There's such things like swarms that always happen like that. Word? I never heard of crickets, though.

- Crickets is the most popular. They had it in the Bible fam, in Moses. - Word, I didn't know that. - Like, you know the, what do you call it? The locusts? - Oh, locusts. - That's what it is. The locusts in Egypt. So that actually happens a lot, I'm pretty sure in like the South, in the States. But it happens, see the problem with Simpsons, it's like they've been on so long that they just do everything. Something's gonna be predicted. - Yeah, yeah, low key, low key. - Something's gonna be predicted. 'Cause that's just like a regular event.

And it kind of lines up today just because it happened today. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of the same. Facts. You have a man walking the exact same movements and then later in the future, he's walking the exact same movements. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. I was watching Black Mirror last night. Okay. And I really started thinking a lot about technology, right? Mm-hmm. Because...

There's this guy and he pretty much made like a machine to feel pain of patients when they walk into a hospital so they can diagnose them better. So if you think about it, right, when you go into the hospital and you have to explain your symptoms,

You don't really understand your symptoms as good as a doctor could tell you. Okay. Because you're just feeling. Now imagine if the doctor could feel exactly what you're feeling. And then just from how he feels you, he can be like...

Oh, it's right here? Okay, I know exactly what it is. Appendicitis. Okay, yeah. Obviously, the diagnosis would be more specific. Yeah, no, he, so he was able, because he's a doctor, he studied everything. So he's able to implant this thing into his, into his, like, his nervous system, like, right into his neck. And every single person that came in, he would put, like, this machine on their head. And it would send the signals of all the pain in their body, everything they're feeling, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, what happened was one time there was a woman that came in and she was under cardiac arrest. Oh, fuck. So he put like the brainwave thing on her head. Uh-huh.

as she was dying and died yeah he blacked out yeah obviously he blacked out but because the brain waves and the link in his nervous system was still attached to her he was able to feel exactly what the afterlife was what yeah for the entire time that he was blacked out he was able to feel the afterlife so the black the afterlife is just going to sleep

No, he was feeling like euphoria and these different feelings, right? But anyways, the moment he woke up, it changed everything. Because the next time he came into work, he started to have a different sensation to pain. So before he would put on the pain and he would be in agony, like trying to figure out what's the symptom. But after his death or after that feeling of death, pain became pleasurable.

- How? - Pain became pleasurable for him. Because I think just the way it messed up his brain in the sense of he can almost die, but he doesn't. So he can feel the pain of almost dying, but doesn't die. So it's like almost adrenaline rushing through him. Because he's still alive, his body's fine. It's just the senses that's going through him, right? - So he's like, "Oh, that's a heart attack, yes." - Yeah, yeah, exactly. So he would go into the hospital and then look for patients that are in pain.

fucking like poisoned heart attack, whatever. So severed leg and put the machine on their head just to go. Yeah. Like take it and feel and feel pain. And he would get off from feeling pain. Now it gets darker, bro. So he ends up getting fired from the hospital because he's doing this weird ass shit. Like, yo, you can't be out here getting off on people's pain. Right. Yeah. So one time he was watching TV.

And he had like a glass of whiskey beside him. It dropped and it cut him. And he said, that feels good. Because now he doesn't have to get pain from other people. He can get pain from himself. So he started mutilating his whole body to feel pain. But because he's a doctor, he's able to like...

do just enough that he doesn't die and it's not lethal to him but he'd still feel the exact amount of like most excruciating pain you can ever feel so he would drill like drill bits into his body he would pull out his teeth all of that stuff yeah but it wasn't enough so he became a murderer huh yeah i knew it so it wasn't enough because the one thing that he's missing was a sense of fear because all of the other patients when he would put the sensor on them

before they would pass away or before like they would feel that pain there's a sense of fear in them and then in his sense it's almost like drinking wine with steak it's like you need this to have that you know it's two together to make it one so what he did he ended up going out and looking for like a homeless person the first person he saw he knocked them out put the sensor on his head

And then started drilling into his body just to feel his pain. And in that exact moment, the police came and they stopped him. But something happened when he killed the homeless guy with the drill. His body went into a coma. Because just like the other deaths that happened, he blacked out again.

But he became into a coma and the last thing that was on his face was just a smile of like bliss and he just stuck like this. And he died? Died like this. And he's just like that forever. That's so fucked, man. And it's all because of like tech. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Because in a sense, that tech, it was supposed to help people and it did help people. But obviously, it's going to, if you have something that's so good, people are going to turn into bad intentions. Like, you'll get one crazy guy that like, oh, this is actually cool. And then boom, he'll do all that shit. Someone's going to find a way to use it in another sense. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

That's always going to happen though. Cause people are just so creative. They're going to find out different alleyways of different ways. You know what I mean? Weird tendencies to do with it. Yeah. But, but one time like though, cause I know you knew you use the, the, what do you call this? The randonautica. Yeah. That's actually like help solve murder cases.

You know that? Really? I thought it wasn't true though. I thought it wasn't true. Because a lot of people like when they're using randonautica, there's like theories that it's actually controlled by like the dark web. Yeah. It'll lead you to weird places, right? So I think, um,

There was one case in Seattle, right? And there was these kids that they were like, oh, I'm a geocache. I'm going to do this and something cool, right? Let's find something cool. For everyone that doesn't know geocaching, you get a random location. You go to that location and I guess you find an object. It's like a souvenir box. Yeah. And then it

it's called a cache exactly and pretty much you like sign your name or they leave some objects in it yeah and carlos does it a hell of time yeah i do all the time it's fun it's fun bro that's just fun so there's a case in seattle where a bunch of these kids wanted to do it right so they put in the they generated the coordinates and this coordinate sent them i think it was to a random like beach like uh like you know um in la where it's like uh that that homeless beach yeah uh what do you call that

The one that andre took us to venice beach. Yeah venice beach It was like a venice beach type vibe in seattle and then the coordinate Uh when they were in the video they saw like on the rocks there was um a suitcase And that suitcase was like that was the coordinate that they were looking for it sent them exactly to that suitcase, right? Yeah, so the kids go up and like okay. I think this is our item, right? So they open it carefully and then they they see like plastic

They're like what the fuck so they take a couple sticks and they poke at it to see if there's like anything alive in there Yeah, there's nothing alive. So they they open the plastic give them more and they get a whiff. Oh, yeah So say death yeah, like one of those that what the fuck is that like what is in this and then all of a sudden they see two Mutilated bodies in that thing, right? So obviously they're like, okay Yo, gotta call the cops the car I think the cops investigated it and they found a wife and a husband and

And they traced it back because I think that night that wife and husband was staying at like a motel, right? Yeah.

And they traced it back to the motel. And the cops inspected it to be the landlord. Because the landlord is very, like, to himself. He doesn't have, like, he doesn't talk to a lot of people. But he's very, like, psychotic. You know what I mean? And then some guy, some girl came out, too. Like, she wanted to remain anonymous. She said that every time she's been in that motel with that landlord...

She was searching around the apartment. There was like scratches on the wall. From what though? From people. From like people escaping? Yeah, exactly. And one time in a pile of clothes, there was a pile of clothes in the corner. She saw a hand, a human hand in the pile of clothes. So they're saying that whenever you don't pay your rent or anything on time, he goes out his way to kill you and mutilate your body and throw it in the ocean. The landlord. The landlord. Yeah, it's fucked, man.

The landlord is the serial killer. Yeah, and they found it out. But they would have never found it if they didn't go geocaching. Or not. It's a joke. Randonautica. It's the same thing. It's not the same. Why? Randonautica is a different app.

Okay, but it's kind of like the same. What do you call this? Objective? Did you do? Have you tried the app? Yeah, I have. Because on Randonautica, it's literally just two options. It's like you want alpha or omega. Something like that. It's like two different options. And it just says you're supposed to manifest. That's it. That's literally it.

You don't put no coordinate. You don't put like what you're trying to see none of that you just Manifest and go and find it. Okay, then I did red no nautica. I didn't do geocaching then Geocaching has an actual coordinate. Yeah, because whenever I went red no nautica Yeah, and we're like I think we did it together one time when we tried to manifest But it only sent us to like a bridge under the highway, but then we do it. Oh, yeah, we did with charon Oh, yeah, yeah, and you're like guys we have to we have to manifest what we want to see like this guy said yo

Yo, but it doesn't really take you nowhere. It doesn't. It doesn't really take you. That's why I think like, I don't know if it's really, really true. But one time it did take me and Sharon and Sophia into like a random place

That's why it's called Random Nautica. It's fucking random. But it took us to a farm. And we walked, I want to say, like 20 minutes on farmland to this end of a ravine. Yeah. It's like hella forest, right? So we get closer and closer. We see...

a woman's shoe yeah a woman's shoe just a single shoe a heel in the middle of the field fam what the fuck the middle of farms yeah and then there's like a garbage bag and stuff but like we are not trying to like look into it but we walk even closer and the the blip is taking us into the forest but keep in mind this shit is 11 o'clock so it's dark and yeah we were trying to go in bro

So we just push you down and like left. Yeah, yeah. What if that was the start of like a case? You could have, you could have. We could have been the case. Nah. It's not the start of it. We could have been the case. So it was in a forest? It was in a forest. Word. Because who knows? What if it's like, imagine. Yeah. I heard before, long, long time ago when Pokemon Go was popping off. Mm-hmm.

pedophiles and just fucked up people they would put pokemon go stops or try to validate pokemon go stops nearby areas to try and kidnap kids yeah of a forest though like like where it's uh not close to any houses like that's where you want to go not you yeah just just even just like kind of weird locations like an alley or kind of something discreet yeah yeah

And even the ones that are already made by Nintendo, they would just post up by there. Yeah. So if you ever play Pokemon Go...

especially back in the day, thinking back, there were some weirdos just watching. Yeah. And that was cause of that reason. Cause they're smart. And it's also tech, tech based. Like it's going to lead you. It's going to show your player on the map, fam. You don't think, you don't think, uh, they have enough tech to see, Oh, you're walking towards here right now. Obviously, you know what I don't get when Snapchat and Instagram asks, uh,

There's a pop-up and it says will you allow this app to track your phone and there's an option for that? That's why you want that?

Yeah, that's for like data. They're just trying to get your information. Yeah, but why would you? That's so weird. That's every app though. If you want to be on a certain application, they have all the right to use your information. Real talk. I guess. Because you know that long ass, let's say you sign up for Club Penguin and you see the terms of agreement. Yeah, no one's reading that. You always scroll to the bottom and just click that shit. Finished. Facts, facts, facts. Right? That makes sense. Every single time. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, but I also found another story. This is in Canada. And this happened two weeks ago. And you're saying about not going to the forest because you might have been the next case. This might have been you, I go live. So this happened in Canada. And there was this girl, right? Who always rides horses. She has hella horses and she just stays with her grandma, right? And then, so one time, every time she rides her horse, she goes down a specific trail. Every time, right? So this time when she was going down this trail,

at night, she goes down and she sees like a deer, a dead deer on the trail, right? And she's like, I'm not going to put it anywhere. I'm just going to leave it to see if there's any other like animals around the forest that are going to eat it, right? So what she does is

She grabs her camera and sets it up. Right? And so she can see if there's any like bears around the area and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. So she rides back. She rides back. The next day, her grandpa that she was living with gets a hold of the camera that she set up. And she sees two naked women eating the dead deer. What the fuck? Why naked women? I don't know. But they're supposedly witches. Yeah.

And they were doing a ritual. Like this, this was the whole ritual of eating and there's pictures of it. And like CCTV. So this is like in the middle of nowhere though. Right? Yeah, I think so. But it's in Canada somewhere. I,

I forgot where it was. Yeah. But they're saying that this animal eating ritual is like something that they do to like gain like powers and shit like that. What the fuck? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So two women just like random. Black hair like it looks like Insidious or whatever that movie was with the girl. Yeah. Covering their face just eating, eating the deer. Damn. Yeah. They found out on camera too. So how do you know they're witches though? They were like

Is it like a known they have witches in that area? I think so. It might be. Yeah, I know. But I think one ritual that witches do is they eat animals. Like, that's what they're trying to connect it to. But obviously, why would two women eat animals? You know what I mean? Yeah. What would be the case? What do you think? Maybe they're starving, bro. Maybe they're actually, like... No, I don't think so. No, they're, like, native to the lands? No? Maybe. I don't know. Because in real time, if you think about it, if there's...

undisclosed like areas untouched areas of the world yeah how would you live no technology no nothing you probably live like that it'll be like naked and afraid yeah fam real talk because you ever heard of that um shit hold on hold on there's this there's this thing there's this there's this like tribe i forgot where it is i might be in australia it's a native tribe

Oh, you know what it is? It's an indigenous tribe. They called the cargo cult. I believe that's what it's called. In Canada or no? Nah, somewhere else. Somewhere else in the world. But pretty much what happened during the war, I want to say the World War I or World War II, they came in contact with the soldiers. So this tribe knew nothing. They just eat animals. And I mean, they just farm, all this stuff.

And one day the soldiers came to set up their base, whatever. Now you can imagine if you don't have the same language, no concept of what these things are like tanks, helicopters, planes, all of these things like, yo, what the fuck is this? Is it aliens? Right? So what they did after the soldiers left, uh,

the cargo cult, they started to create and recreate the things that soldiers left behind. So they would make like a whole plane made out of hay. - Okay, okay. Just 'cause they saw it. - Just because they saw it. They would make like tanks made out of like dirt and sticks just because they wanted to try and like see if they would come and return.

Just to like attract them, come back. Okay. That's kind of sick though. Because if you think about it, like if we saw something obscure like that, that we don't understand, we would think there's higher importance. Yeah.

But isn't that sad? Like they think it's something so surreal, but in reality, they just don't know the rest of the world. Yeah. I think I've seen something too. It's like, you know, that whole story where like back in the medieval days, they created like a Trojan, a big Trojan horse. And like they knocked on the door and then there was soldiers. That's in Greece. That's during the Trojan War. Yeah. I don't know. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that never happened.

like that wasn't i heard it was a myth yeah it was a myth like when i heard it's like folklore because when i heard that i'm like yeah when do you really think about it there's a big horse at your door you're not opening the door fam you know what i mean yeah i think it was just like uh part of the stories like part of the mythology because like achilles and yeah yeah okay that's the story of achilles when he broke his achilles no yeah yeah he he's like the only weakness is his achilles yeah yeah

He's the main, like, leader of the army, I think. Okay. And he was, like, unbeatable. And you can only, like, defeat him with his Achilles. Okay. Because that's the one thing that didn't touch, like, the blessed water he was dumped in. So his mother, like, grabbed his ankle and, like, dumped him in the water. Yeah. And then he became invincible except for the part she was holding. Yeah, that's fucked.

Which is the key spot, man. This guy missed one spot. Yeah, fam. But yeah, okay, going back to submarine, though, another thing I heard, though, since we're talking about wars, too, is that they actually sent these billionaires, and this is going to be a Russian attack. What do you mean? So imagine they sent a bunch of billionaires down, and the whole reason was to go and attack Russia. Wait, what? What? I heard something that was like, this is supposed to be a Russian attack or something.

Do you believe that or no? So China fake a Russian attack? Yeah, China fake one. So they're trying to blame Russia on like the billionaires missing? Yeah, yeah. Do you think that's a good theory? I don't think so. That's out there though. That's out there. I don't know. If they would do that, why don't they just...

just drop a nuke. Yeah, yeah. Like, God forbid, but like, that shit would start the war better than that. You know what I mean? Like, the men really wanted to start a war. They could start the war. Like, they don't have to do no play shit, no baby shit. Like, just throw it up. But I don't think they wanted to do that. That's why they wanted to do something more mellow, you know? But yeah. Because I know in Russia, I believe they blame like a drone attack on the US. Yeah, that's what they're trying to do. Yeah, yeah. But that shit was baby shit too. Yeah, that's what...

They really just had like a mini drone like come and crash into the building and blame you the u.s. Try to kill us. Yeah, I don't know who knows That's like when you're actually to fight is like you're pushing and shoving like the drone is just a push It's the baby shift that like not but no one wants to throw the right hook It's like talking talking like if y'all wanna fight fight. Yeah But um

I have a question for you. I have a really good question actually. Let's say you had a loved one and they were in a coma. Would you be willing, if they had the technology, to put their consciousness into your head so they can live again?

Wait, wait, say it again. If I was dead? No, no, no, you're not dead. Oh, I'm not dead. You're not dead. One of your loved ones is in a coma. Pretty much dead. Yeah, yeah. Like they're not going to live anymore. But they're still there, conscious. So you want to transport their spirit into mine. Yeah, they have the technology to put their consciousness into your head and they can feel and see everything with you. Would you want that? No.

On paper, it sounds like a sick idea. But I feel like there's a lot of back, like a lot of bad things that could come with it. Because like, obviously it's a spirit. Like it's, that's coming in another spirit. It's not necessarily a spirit. It's literally just like their brain, their consciousness. Yeah. So, you know, get out. Yeah. It's kind of like that. Like the hypnotism, they're in there. You're in that head.

And you can't really do much. You can't really move at all, communicate at all, but they're just there with you. Nah, I wouldn't do that. Would you want to do that? Nah, nah, nah, nah. But there was this, this is in Black Mirror too. Okay. But pretty much this guy, his wife got hit by a car and she ended up in a coma. Now this doctor came to him and he said, okay, we have this technology that we can transport her consciousness into your head. And

She'll be able to feel your baby boy Anything you see she'll be able to have the same emotions as you and just feel everything you're feeling Yeah now he agreed to it because he loved his wife so much. Yeah, but we didn't realize Was how it would really affect his life. So he did it. He did her procedure and

And there was good times like they were actually able to have amazing moments like she's able to see the kid and experience life still. But what happened, she can still communicate to the guy. So imagine thoughts in your head that aren't yours. So everything you do, like you pick up your phone, like why'd you pick that up? So it ended up becoming like a backseat driver of your life in every scenario.

And it gets like fucked up because let's say you wanted to remarry or start dating again. That voice in the back of your head is always there. Now, what's crazy, he went back to the doctor and he's like, okay, we got to do something about this.

What they did, they were able to install almost like an app on his phone that would pause her consciousness. Oh, that's sick. Then I would have it. Then I would have it. So he could pause it. But in her time, she would just be like, oh, wait, it's Halloween? Like, what happened to all the other months? Like, uh...

I'm sorry to tell you but okay, it's like years in advance and like she didn't she didn't realize yeah now if you think about this pretty fucked up It's kind of unethical because it's still someone's life right? No. Yeah, they can't do anything, but they can experience So what they ended up doing as a solution they ended up transferring her consciousness into almost like a robot But it's in the shape of like a toy monkey for the kid. Yeah, so

The toy monkey is able to communicate only by two sayings. Monkey needs a hug or monkey loves you. Just two sayings because it's kid friendly, right? Now the dad transferred the mom's consciousness into the monkey, gave it to the kid.

And every time the kid wanted to like talk to the mom, we talked to the monkey. Oh, that's fucked. Yeah. That's kind of like, um, that's selling your soul though. Right? What do you mean? Like selling your soul? Cause, um, if you're putting, fam, you're talking about like consciousness and stuff, but that's your soul though. Okay. You know, it gets even more fucked up cause,

Now she doesn't have a lifespan. Like she can necessarily, she can live forever. That is a soul. Cause souls don't have, they're eternal. You know what I mean? It's hard to say. It's hard really to say. Cause soul, if you're thinking about just your brain, you know, brain and thing is all connected, right? Yeah. So if you pass that to someone else, like someone in a coma, you're taking all their consciousness, their soul out their body. And yeah, I guess it is. So it's like almost like a possessed monkey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

holy fuck no that is a selling your soul ritual fam that's kind of scary so i think like in the end of the the episode like yeah she's still in that monkey oh my over all those years she shit the the husband probably passed away or whatever she'll still grow old in the monkey like monkey loves you monkey needs a hug that's all no and you're just imagine you're just like this like trapped you can't do anything yeah

Wait, Black Mirror isn't based on real events, right? No, but it's based on technology they're trying to create. They're trying to create, okay, okay. Which is shit everything, right? Because the more technology comes out, the more we're going to try and advance it. And there is some dark and unethical tech, but it's still there. Okay, yeah. It's probably still there and you never know when it's going to be in use. Yeah, because that monkey thing reminded me of some game they play in Southeast Asia too. It's called the Shadow Game. You ever heard about this?

I don't, I never heard about it. So it's kind of like, um, putting, so you're, they say your shadow is kind of like your consciousness. And if you have a shadow, you have a soul, right? So there was these, um, three guys that they were playing it and to do it like in, they, they recorded themselves, uh, doing it.

At first, they were just doing, they were in like a, they were beside a wall and they were just making hand puppets, stuff like that with their shadows, right? And then all of a sudden, they take a talisman out, right? Which is like an envelope. And then inside the talisman, they have figures of themselves, like small figures, right? For what? So listen, so to play this game, you have to take three pieces of your hair and

put it in the envelope with the the figure of yourself right and you have to start burning this envelope right yeah and while while it was recorded of them playing two of the guys were just still playing making shadows right while the third guy on the far right in the video he started burning his talisman his shadow went away it started fading away right and in this game your shadow is

Is gonna be around the area You just have to find it again But if you don't find it again Your soul is like Gone Yeah Right So the guy They started panicking Yo we have to go find it We have to go find it He saw a A random shadow Out in the In the wilderness He crouched down And then it slowly Went back into this position Mmm

And that's how you play the shadow game. It's like, it's kind of fun. It's like, oh, this is how. It's like seeing the other you. Yeah, yeah. And then there's also another one that also in Japan. So you have to connect your fingers like this. So put your finger towards mine. And then you have to also burn a candlelight. And then when you release, your one person's shadow will follow later. So it'll be like this, but your shadow will go like two seconds later. It'll be like delayed. Yeah.

So it's like Peter Pan. You know how Peter Pan's shadow can move on its own? So the shadow has its own presence. Has its own presence. So when they're all in a circle, we'll see which one really goes last. Have you seen that video of the... There's this guy on a bus. And then he sees a woman.

Is this a hooded woman? Have you seen this? I think so. I think so. There's this hooded woman and she's just like on the bus and she's, she's asking for help or something, but she won't leave the bus. Yeah. She just won't leave the bus. And he's trying to like look at her face and the closer he gets to her, he can see under the hood.

There's no face. - Oh fuck. - No face, there's a video of it. - What? - And if you pay like close attention, this woman doesn't have a shadow.

And that's one of the dead giveaways like this is a spirit. Yeah, you don't have a soul. Let me see. So you can see the hood. She's just wearing like a scarf there. Oh, hell no. You can't see the face. Even though she's looking like right at the camera. Look, can't see nothing. That's so weird. Why would not?

Wait, so the bus driver's saying- Yeah, she has hands. She has hands. He has hands. No, but the bus driver's saying like, show me yourself. She wants to look at him. Look, she has no face. The bus driver's like, get off the bus. Get off the bus. Because he's scared. He's like, what the fuck are you? So he looks closer? The woman has no shadow either. Oh, no. Look.

Behind her, no shadow. So it's just a spirit. Now what the bus driver did, he just panicked because he called the police. So he exited the bus, waited for the police, and when they came back onto the bus, she's gone. Fuck. Gone.

No, but I think in the Philippines, if you see someone with no face, that's an indicator that you might die soon. With no face? Yeah, with no face. Why? I don't know. That's like a superstition? Yeah, like a superstition down there is like, oh, and anywhere you look, if there's no face, you're about to die soon. Word. That's like...

Spirited away. Cause no face. Yeah, exactly. And why do you think the bus driver is panicking? Good thing he stopped driving cause he would have probably got into accident. Like he knew. He was like, if you see in the video, he's like, she has no face. He's the one telling her. The person recording. That it's like a bad omen. It's like a spirit. Exactly. Cause what happens, what happens if you see something and you just keep going with it? Like would you...

That's the thing. If you believe into it more, do you fall victim to it because you believed it? 100%. Because you kind of manifested it? Yeah. Fam, you've probably been in your room after a psychological horror. Yeah. And you're thinking to yourself that it's real. But it's actually not. It's just a movie. Nah, yo. Sometimes I watch like...

I watched like fucked up movies and then I start to think in the main character. Oh, how they think. Oh, nah. Yeah. Just for a bit. Like after I'm like, damn, this is a weird feeling and shit. Like, cause every time I watch, I try to put myself into the character. You can't do that, bro. That's how you get a good experience. But then a crazy man like you might actually do what they actually, you know, they might not do no crazy shit. Remember the little girl that loved true crimes of,

She's turning into the true crime herself. No, but it's a different take when you put yourself into the character and you feel the emotion. Because imagine you read a story, right? The greatest stories you heard or you felt emotion to were the ones you read in a book. Am I false? Am I wrong? Yeah, yeah. Because...

It's almost like your own take on what's happening. Because words in a book are just words. You interpret it, you imagine it, you feel it. Now, imagine you do that in a movie and it's given to you a little bit more and you just pretend like you're seeing through how they would see it.

That would bring the movie up Like a couple notches For sure But I don't I do I put myself in a In my perspective And like this is a movie Just so I don't get psyched out You know Cause if I get too deep in Oh man I think I have the personality To be like This shit's actually real Like this Word Camera's following me You know what I mean No but that's

That's what you gotta do for acting. If you wanna- I can never act. You gotta really like be that. It's fucked. No, no. You can't. And it's scary. Cause imagine you play- Yo, there was a- The guy from It. Yeah, yeah. The guy that played It.

He had to go to the mental hospital. Even, you know, David Cho? No. Oh, David Cho? David Cho, the artist. So after filming the Netflix series Beef, he went and checked himself into a mental hospital because the character he was playing was so violent, just so like not his character and he lost his mind. So he thought that he became that person. And what happened was whenever he would go out, even when they're not filming,

I forgot the term, but I think it's called like leaking. He would leak the persona of the character he's playing ordering Starbucks. Like, yo bitch, give me a coffee. Like shit like that. Like he would leak his character, even though that's not him. Because that's how much he like moved his mindset in that way. Yeah.

That's next level acting. But I think not even acting too, like you can just do that to be somebody. I was going to say that. Cause what if you, if you're a little kid and you looked up to maybe Spider-Man and you every day, you're like,

you know what i mean it would turn into the mindset would mindset yeah the mindset would no regardless because i think if you really take it in i have a theory that the reason our generation is like this is dead ass just based off the heroes we grew up with if you think about it our parents at least whoever they were watching at the time

I look at my dad and I look at my uncles, I'm like, yo, how do they turn out like this? Why are they so like masculine? Why are they so have this type of mindset? And I look back at like my dad's movie collection. What do I see? - That makes sense. - Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know what I mean? I see like all the karate movies and that's what was popular at the time. Who like Godfather, Al Pacino.

Whatever you indulge in, you become. And then that's what your mindset changes into. So you can honestly like become whoever you want just by your mindset. No, that makes sense. And keep evolving it and then like take things that you do like, take things that you don't like. And me as a movie lover, that's what I do with every single movie. Yeah. So I see like what I like about certain characteristics. And like, damn, maybe that will work in my life. Yeah.

I was just gonna say There's so much media nowadays That you look up to someone else And that becomes you So you're a mix of all the media you consume You know what I mean? Yeah And it doesn't even have to be like movies too Like if you play video games You kinda You kinda think in that way right? So Max Holloway Mmm

To become a better striker in the UFC, you know what he did? What? He would actually play the UFC game and try different combos. So he said it in an interview. He would use Jose Aldo and Hennon Burrell and then just spam like combos, like strike combos. Like, damn, this works in the game. Yeah. And he would just do it. He would actually like use those combos in practice and actually like

Drill it, drill it, drill it and use it in real life. Yeah. I remember I had the UFC 3 game on PlayStation 3 and then I would like, I would think that I was so sick and I was doing those like Muay Thai kicks. Yeah. But then I went to Taekwondo practice and tried the same thing. It did not work out, bro. It could work out if you drill it though. Yeah, if you drill it. But I was spending so much time on the game that I got so lazy. Like I was just sitting in front of the screen. So when it got time to play, I was like, oh, I'm in a video game. I'm going to do this. But I'm mad slow. Like I'm not coordinated. You know what I mean?

So it's like video games fuck you up, bro. You know how I had a concept of the world before, like episodes ago, but how everything, there's nothing new? There's nothing new? I take that back. Okay. How? I take back that whole ideology, like there's nothing new. Why don't you think? So there is new, but it's just a mixture of the old. So it's kind of like...

It's kind of like mix and mashing to make the new. So it's still new, but it's old concepts put together. - I think the only new was when those, what do you call those? The Neanderthals. Now everything was new and from that age- - Now they're still new, they're still new fam.

they're still new bro no yeah no i'm talking about but like like new new like never been done before but then like now we we take that new and turn it into a newer thing you know what i mean there's still way more new fan new yeah like we didn't have okay for example the the apple stuff no one had bitcoin like neanderthals there's new like that's a that's a that's a concept like we haven't even you know i'm sure there's gonna be a lot more new things

But the base of it is like their old concepts just revamped and modified. Yeah. But I think like,

I think it's still considered new just because, just because it's all of these ideas that you would never mix before. So imagine a whole palette of colors, right? You take this color with that color. Now you have those combinations of two colors together. Now you add a third one. How many different combinations are there? Now you add a fourth. Like now one times this times this times that, you know, there's unlimited almost. And you add another one. So it's like, let's say this, this was your only option before. Facts.

This is everything that's new. The moment you add something else into the mix... It's a new thing. Every single one becomes new just because there's so many different combinations. Yeah, yeah. Because somebody told me too, it's like, oh, you design clothing, but there's only a bunch of clothing that you can design. So you're going to run out of ideas. I'm like...

Wait, no, but I can take some of the idea and to change it into mine. Isn't that considered new? It is. It is. You can turn different products into new products. So say like, so this one without the diamonds is a, is a pretty boy hoodie, right? Yeah. I add the diamonds. It's a new product. Yeah. You know, so it's different variations. Like you said, the thing, but all the, so this pretty boy hoodie, the original turns into the new thing. Cause it's culminated. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

So you can never run out of ideas, to be honest. Because as long as there are ideas, there's going to be new products. Do you want to dive into anything else besides just hoodies? Hoodies? Yeah. I want to make, my end goal is to make jewelry. Because I wear so much jewelry. I love like shiny shit. So I'm definitely going to come out with that. When are you, when do you think you're going to drop it?

Don't know cuz I'm not when I have a team cuz I'm not a guy that I have sick ideas But I can never put it into motion. Well, why it's I don't know it's hard for me I don't know why but it's like I'll go on to Alibaba, but I'm like, I'll give up. Oh, it's too hard Are you out like looking for a team? Yeah, I'm always looking for like I

I need like, so my, my, if I had one person that I can draft to my team, it would be Jet. Because Jet is a guy that can take your idea and, and make it come into life in like less than 24 hours. You know what I mean? Like he's a guy that can go out and do it. Like I have the crazy ideas, but I can't go out and make it.

you know but you don't have the you don't have the aspiration to do that though because yeah because all the the research is very draining i'm like man i'm not even i'm just gonna push this aside until i can find until something comes to me because my hoodie uh guy came to me i didn't have to look for that hoodie guy you know that makes all my hoodies yeah so it's like until it comes to me i'm not i'm not doing it until it comes to you you're not gonna so if i have it if i have a team oh yeah it's raps i might have the craziest streetwear brand in canada

Word. That's sick. I know. So if you see somebody that's like, Gavin, I want to work for you. Like, theoretically. Yeah. What are the type of aspects in their life or their creativity that you're looking for? Oh, he's very... What do you call this? I don't know. I don't know how you're going to say it. Like, very...

Like he comes up to me and like his first, his first words is like, you can feel the passion. Like he has to be passionate. Passionate. Okay. Number one. And then I guess just very hardworking. That's if you have those and you love what you do, you're on my team. Word. Yeah. How about you? For me, it's very simple. Okay. Whatever I'm bad at and they're good at. Whatever I'm bad. Yeah. Very simple. Yeah. Like it doesn't matter. Like you could be a shitty person. If you're really, really good at something and I'm bad at it. Yeah. We can still work together. Yeah.

See, a lot of those guys who, when they're creating a team and, uh, they take age or like your age into account, but say like, um, a guy, a guy that's still in like, um, ninth grade comes up to you and he's really good at what he does. A lot of people would turn that away just cause his experience. Would you still take him?

If he's like he's knowledgeable he has all these things but obviously he's still young. Yeah, why not? Exactly. A lot of people don't like like The youth is very important like it's what keeps you young They know the trends and they still know what's going on to this day. You're getting old as we speak, but there's still the future so wouldn't you want a lot of young kids on your team and

Yeah, of course. Yeah, a lot of old heads say like, nah, he doesn't have the experience. Fam, how do you think he's going to get the experience? I feel like it's the opposite in the industry though. Really? I feel like everybody's looking for the young. Like nobody really wants to use the old. Really? Yeah, because if you think about it, look at like all the rappers, who are they collabing with? They're not collabing with older artists. They're collabing with younger artists. Word.

I feel like in all art, they're just looking at the youth because that's the newer. That's what's going to be popular. Really? Because a lot of people say like, oh, you hang around a lot of O2s and you're an OO. I'm like, what? Why does that make a difference, fam? No, it doesn't make a difference. Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. But let me double back on if they're a shitty person because I feel like people don't understand that. Crazy take. Yeah. But I feel like people that you don't understand, because for example, a shitty person to you,

There's obviously like moral things that I wouldn't agree with, but a shitty person to you, they're usually shitty because you don't understand them. Yeah. And you're like stubborn. You don't want to accept it. Exactly. He's a smart ass. Yeah. They're usually shitty because you don't understand them. Yeah. Crazy take the people that are the most like on one side or something, they have the most creative ideas because nobody else is on that side. And it's very lonely on the Island. So somebody that's on the Island, that's very like,

Out of the box of what everybody's thinking about. Yeah, they're gonna say something that you never thought of crazy take like a shitty person though I'm not saying necessarily shitty but I would consider them shitty because most people don't understand them because for example a douchebag that treats people a certain way because He thinks in that mindset but if he's very creative and

Maybe he's creative because that's what makes him creative. Because he's that alone. It makes him that person. Because I know there's a lot of artists that, you know, they're not necessarily the greatest people. But they come out with art because they're very different from the other. They're very different from the usual person. I can see that. I can see that. You agree or not? It's a crazy take. I want to see if you agree. I can see it. But at the same time, it's like, I don't think...

I don't think it's right though that they stay, that they only have one side. Because I feel like a real true creative, because okay, say that individual runs out of ideas and is not creative anymore. Who are you going to look to? The other side for ideas. I'm not saying that person's the greatest artist. Yeah. But I'm saying I would hire that person because they can see something that I don't see. Probably I wouldn't hire that person.

I'm gonna lie. You have to be, you have to be like open. You know what I mean? Like you might have, you might have the sickest artists for that, for that niche, but what else? That's it. No, but that's, that's the point. Oh, it's like you want to fill those niches. Yeah. That's, that's the point is like, I have that, that area of the mind that nobody else said.

So this area of the brain, like I have set because he thinks in that way. Now I think in my own way and it's like a puzzle piece, right? Like the perfect masterpiece. I need this type of thinking for this, this type of thinking for that. And it becomes like a beautiful picture because of all these different things. But sometimes it takes a little bit of darkness. Sometimes it takes a lot of good depending on what you're actually trying to make. Yeah.

Usually something that has an edge to it is what we're attracted to though. Just like if you think about all music, it's very edgy. Especially the ones that start a revolution or start, you know what I mean? Start a whole genre in and of itself. It's very raw.

Raw, edgy. Okay. On paper, I think what you said, like if I have different parts of the mind and we work as a team, on paper, it's good because you have different superstars to fill that position. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. But now it's like to work as a team, you're going to need to communicate and educate

And agree as one thing. No, you don't have to agree. No, no, but you said part of your team though. Yeah. No good team is going to work if you have one person that's so, so like solid on his role. And you have a different thinking. I disagree. You know why? Why, why, why? If you have a good leader. Yeah, that makes it too. But obviously if you have stubborn people and the leader is not going to get to them.

You know what I mean? I disagree. Go look at any basketball team with a bunch of superstars that are with stubborn superstars. KD, Kyrie, and Harden were on one team. That shit didn't work. When it comes to art, I think it's different. When it comes to art? Yeah. Because I think the- I think when it comes to art, it's worse. Because art is so subjective that there's so many routes where you have to take. What if the art is the war? You feel me? Like, what if the argument within it creates the art?

What if the struggle of you not agreeing with someone is so important in your creative process that it creates something because y'all were arguing? I get that too. Right? Because it's shit that is not regular. I mean, you have to put yourself in depths of ideas that nobody has been in before to create something new. Yeah. So for you to come up with an idea, maybe you have to sit in dirt. You know what I mean? Like listen to country music. Mm-hmm.

And then, shit, watch a basketball game. Like, the most random, and then eat a lollipop. Like, random shit. Yeah, yeah. And then lie down on, like, a unicorn. You know? Like, weird stuff. And then, at that exact moment, you'll be inspired by different things subconsciously. And it just all adds up. And it doesn't, it's not supposed to make sense. Because that's a point of art. In my opinion, I think the truest art is just nonsense that you make people understand. Mmm.

Like you make people believe your vision and they come up with stories for it themselves? Yeah, it's just nonsense to everyone. But you're the translator and you make it understandable because you can portray that message to others. So like your cutout hoodie, you gave them the platform and then they become the author. You know what I mean?

okay yeah so they can they can understand your nonsense okay that's fine but it's nonsense if

It's just there. Yeah. Like you, you take a whole bunch of like stuff and put it on a table. Boom. What is this? But you put a story and then you built it into something. It becomes something. Yeah. Remember the, the scribble guy I was talking about how he would, um, he would go and he's, he would just start doodling Mr. Doodle. Yeah. And he would create a stories himself. So they took a house, right? They painted it white, all white. And he filled up this room with everything.

Every scribble like every doodle imaginable, right? So you walk into a room. It's just black doodles of like everything So imagine you walk into a room and you like you see fish you see thing Yeah, but you but every person will see something different because obviously it's just a doodle and he filled this whole house like every crevice fan I feel like a lot of artists are like that like Basquiat Basquiat and like a bunch of bunch of different like

absolutely like look at david shows like that too yeah no but going back to david joe i think david joe should even be a mental hospital already even without that acting you know why he's a crazy dude no but he he went there to help himself and that's why he's outside i know that's why because because when you're telling that story it's like i don't think it's just because the acting fam bro is actually crazy like no but maybe it's just you don't understand them because real listen

Maybe the crazy people aren't actually crazy. It's just everybody else. We've talked about this before. Like if everybody else around me is exactly like me, then I'm not crazy no more. If you consider me crazy.

uh, I don't believe that too, because, uh, like you heard about, have you heard the Shane Groves about Shane Groves? No. How, um, he, like he murdered someone. He, she murdered her boyfriend. Yeah. And then when they were going into her room, she had pictures of Jeffrey Dahmer. She had pictures of like all the, the crimes in the world, right? You would become that person if that's your role model, you know what I mean? So if imagine you put, uh, already like,

psychotic guy like David Cho in a murder acting thing. If he didn't go to the hospital or like a mental hospital, he would actually become, I feel like he would actually become a murderer. Yeah, I agree. It could like take it to that level. But the point I was trying to get at is like, let's say, let's say your whole, let's say the whole population is like that is all murder serial killers. If you're the one that doesn't want to murder and serial kill, then you're the crazy one. Everybody else is doing it like that.

- Yeah, yeah. - Like for example, let's say we're a pack of wolves and we go hunt bunnies. And it's like, that's how we survive. We eat bunnies, right? And you're just that one wolf who's like, "Yo, can we eat something else? Like let's eat berries." All the other wolves are gonna look at you and be like, "What are you talking about? What is going on? You're crazy."

But if you take it into a different perspective, of course, humans, we don't have to do certain things to be that way and survive. Then, yeah, you seem crazy because the average person is taught to do certain things. And then naturally we do these things and we're all like, OK, we agree. Let's not do this. Let's do this.

The best way to push an agenda is, like, to obviously get a group of people around it because if that's the regular, then the normal person will be like, oh, let me join into that, right? So do you think, like...

One agenda that they're going to push is like, oh, they put all these, this bad shit around, like the true crimes, the murder mysteries everywhere. And they just make everyone start to, you feel me, kill themselves, like kill others. Do you think that that's a possibility soon? No, I just think we're attracted to that as humans. Attracted? I think we're just naturally attracted to that. Like I said, the normal. Yeah.

Too much of the normal, like, we don't like anymore. Like, we want to see the obscure things. That's what triggers our, like, emotion. Like, whoa. Like, let's dive more into it because it's a mystery. Because as your life, if your life is super regular and you don't do anything that's kind of, like, out of the box, you're going to be attracted to these different mysteries and things because it becomes a mystery for yourself how would you see things. See things. That makes sense.

I think that's the only reason like true crime, like murder mysteries, that's why it's popular is because it's not because for us to become them. It's just to put ourselves in that perspective. Like, yo, that's so odd. Like, why would I think like that? And I think it makes people more open-minded to seeing things. Whether that be good or bad, but it's like, it's a good test. It's a good test of yourself to see

how my mind could play out in that way you know it's like i know how carlos reacts in watching spongebob how would carlos react watching this or that and then you find out that's true and it goes back to the role model things because like you said like uh

all your dad's movies before is like the, the muscular guys, shit like that. Our, our generation grew up on like young dog wearing a dress, you know, all the, probably all the, they're trying to break that, that men, that, that toxic masculinity border. So that's what all you see now is like, Oh, we're trying our best to step out and do different. So, you know, I just think there's a problem personally. I know there's like this kind of a controversial take, but beautifully,

Because we're used to certain things that were built that way, it's going to become a problem later when people don't want to do the jobs that were built in that way. You know? Like, it will get harder when the people that do the hard work, there's no more people to do the hard work. You get me? But at the same time, I think that's good because it's like,

But then how is society going to run? Who's going to build your bridges and shit? Like if everybody wants to be a YouTuber, who's going to fix your car? Who's going to, who's going to, you know what I mean? Like who's going to move concrete, put up, put up,

fucking skyscrapers. Who the fuck's gonna do that if we're all YouTubers? But, no, I think that's where it's moving right now because everyone doesn't want to do hard work no more. But I feel like that's good because as soon as everyone moves away from it, that job is gonna become...

more of a rarity and you're gonna get paid more for that job. So, obviously, they're gonna increase that pay. Everyone's, fuck this YouTube shit, let me move some more bricks. So, I feel like it's gonna balance itself out, you know what I mean? It would balance itself out, but it's gonna come into, like, a dangerous territory of the, the, like, learning stages. Yeah, yeah. For sure. Mm-hmm.

For sure, I can see it headed towards there. We're definitely in a weird era. You know how it's like the other era, like our dad's era, was more of a hamster? Like, let me give it this. Let me give it technology, see what it does for it. And then boom, now we're moving into that. I think we're still that, though. We're still that? I think we're always in testing stages. Testing stages? You don't think we're all hamsters, fam? Like, we're all still testing.

Think we're past. I think we're past like the the testing stages now is I disagree now. It's just like we're what will it do to us now and

Nah fam. If like the personally, like how I see it, a lot of people don't even know what they want to do with themselves. They don't even understand who they are yet. Yeah. So let alone testing other things with like technology, they have to test themselves to see what they like. Yeah. A lot of people don't even know who their true self is. Like they haven't, haven't been through struggles to realize it, or they haven't like dove deep enough to see like who they want to become. So like,

Before they can even battle the other experiments, they have to battle that experiment. That's facts. That's facts. You got to know yourself first. Yeah. There's a lot of different things that I think play a part in, in,

in finding like where the future is going to be. Because honestly, if you're ever thinking like that far ahead, they're going to become, there's going to be robots that just build everything for us. Yeah. Yeah. And take in, uh, you know, Gong, the guy who's running. Yeah. He did all that, that campaign and all, he spent all this money on the posters just to get less votes than Chris guy. You know, you, do you know that? Yeah. It was fucked.

But, you know, Gong, he was actually a criminal. Yeah, I know. I swear he did all this for money laundering. Yeah, something like that. Because I know he came from New Zealand and he had to pay a $60 million fine just so that he can move out or something like that. He had to pay a fine because he was money laundering. Exactly. And it didn't matter how much people loved Chris Kai or anybody else. It was meant to be Olivia Chow. Because...

Like, not to get political or anything, but they're going to choose the person who fits the agenda more. And remember you're talking about Justin Trudeau kind of looks like some other guy? Fidel Castro. And he was a? Communist. Yeah, exactly. So do you think we're going to get into that? Like Toronto's going to start becoming a communist. Country? Yeah, country. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So Olivia Chow fits that.

I think it's like coming closer and closer. I don't know if it's going to be exactly that. Hopefully it doesn't though. It's hard to predict that. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. But just the way it's looking, it's like they're hinting at like, maybe this is a good idea. But that's where it gets scary because that's when it like forms into motion. Yeah. But I think it's always like a cycle because if you think about it,

the world does go back around and they say, I'm pretty sure every, every hundred something years, an empire falls.

Like, there's an expiration date for every empire. And the United States is headed towards their expiry date. Canada hasn't been that long, but technically, Canada is still part of that empire because they work so close to the United States. Still all North America. In my opinion, North America is all one empire. If you really think about it, because the trading and all that stuff, y'all want to get into economics. But if you think about it, all of this shit, bro, is it really going to matter? Like, let's say... What do you mean, is it going to matter? No, like, let's say...

Um, fuck. Our country becomes communist. Like, yeah, we're going to be like, ah, shit, fuck. Now what do we do? What were you going to do? I don't know. You get me? Like, like if you didn't do it, if you don't care now, like when are you going to care? And like, what are you, what are you going to do about it? Feel me? Yeah. Yeah. The only thing is like, well, can we do is vote for the one we do? But a lot of people like complain that,

And then the same people that are complaining, they don't vote to the person that they wanted. Exactly. So you have to do something about it. Like if you really care that much, right? Exactly, bro. But that's why we see more, um, more protests and stuff like that. But that's good because at least people are like doing their thing, like going out and speaking their voice, which is, which is really good. But what's scary Canada, I don't know if you knew,

Facebook and Instagram, they're not allowed to post any news content in Canada. I just learned that. Because of a new bill. And who was talking about this bill way before any of this shit happened?

You're one and only Carlos fam. I was telling everybody I was telling everybody and then I put I'll post on my story Man, we try to like yo, it's it's not really gonna affect us. It's really gonna affect you We all use the internet stupid if we're all using the internet and The bill is gonna affect the internet who's gonna affect every single person in Canada that's using the internet bro hundred and they took they took a Facebook and thing down and I I

Obviously since TikTok isn't part of that meta stuff They tried to take down TikTok separately So that's why it's like This shit was never for data bro It was for censoring Like you can tell like It's called censorship though Yeah censorship bill Like When that All the

the protests were going along and the court stuff with the, with the TikTok CEO, all the, the TikTok accounts that were kind of posting like these news, like, like giving people news about stuff, their views were getting lower and lower. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's, it's easy to see what they're doing. But why, why do you think that is? Because the, the news, they're trying to censor everything.

Censor what parts though like like they're trying to give them Make sure information doesn't spread around like uh say a case happened like a murder case happened Yeah, but that wasn't like shed light on we would take that and we would give it to the people They would shut that down obviously because they don't want to they don't want to put that up, you know Mmm, well, what do you think like decides that like do you think like there's a bunch of people like oh shit? Like this

Maybe this one. Oh, this one's okay. Like, you think it's like that? Like, somebody sits in a chair and then picks and chooses? Probably. They probably have a team of hundreds. Or do you think it's like a whole bunch of, like, a list? Or maybe what they do is, like, they have, like, words, filtered words that if you say something like that, they'll take it down or censor it already. Like, you know what? Like, government. Like, if we say government on TikTok, that shit is not going up. Because they don't want no bad stuff being said about them. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, damn. That is true. Yeah. So they probably have filters. Yeah.

I think that's the scariest thing in the world is just freedom of speech. Like if they take away that, that's it for everything. That's it for creativity. Exactly. That's it for shit, freedom and everything. Yeah. Cause freedom of speech means freedom of what you eat, how you live, what you choose. So if you don't have that, you don't have nothing. Nothing. Yeah. And,

And like say we said more controversial shit. Like we still say controversial shit, but we stay away from the ones that we already know that would get a shadow ban from YouTube. You know what? There's a lot of stuff I held my tongue on. Exactly. So there's not really free speech. Even on YouTube, you'll get shadow banned just for saying it. And we have to blur that out. You have to blur that out. Blur that out right now. Yeah, yeah.

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