EP.133 - CHILDREN'S BOOK MURDER MYSTERY, SPIDERMAN POSSESSED THEORY & TIKTOK HIGH THEORY
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So I was like, okay, that means, uh, what do you think it means? What do you think it means? You kiss a lot of girls and then they kiss you back. That's what I thought. That's what I thought too. That's what I thought too. There's more? No, like there's actually a real meaning. What is it? So I Googled it cause I'm like, okay, this is kind of fire. Sure. I wonder where this is from. And I went to like a Reddit post and then they said the actual meaning is I snatch kisses and vice versa. Vice versa of I snatch kisses is I kiss snatches. Oh, wait, what's snatches?

Wait, what? What snatches? Yo, if you have to Google it, you can Google it. But like, that's what it means. Wait, can I, what is a snatch? Nah, don't even say that at the beginning of the podcast, man. We can't, we can't. It's not bad? No, it's just like, it's like, eh, you know what I mean?

That's what it means. I didn't know what it means. That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know. So that's why it's like my pajama shirt. High key, I'm wearing pajamas right now. I'm not even going to capture you. But I don't want to like wear something like too formal on the podcast, man. Fucking pants to my side, I'm wearing a whole bun. Nah, that's what I said. I'm just joking. I'm joking, bro. I'm joking, fam. Anyways. Nah, but it's one of those like I never want to...

I never want to like care too much about what I'm wearing. - Or nah, no bro. Cause like when I go out and like specific like events, I have to be like the best dressed.

Okay, I get that. You know? I get that. I get that. Because if it's like when we went to the crater thing, you're like, yo, this is like the Met Gala of craters. So instead of putting a nice button-up shirt, what do I feel the most comfortable and I can be myself in is streetwear clothes. So I wear all my baggy shit, like the most, like the weirdest shoes ever, but I felt myself in that area. Yeah, but...

The reason I'm buying kind of cool pajamas and just, I guess, like, nice irregular clothes. So no matter what I put on, it's fire. You get me? So I literally threw out, like, all of my shit that's whack. Wow. Every single one. Like, if it can't look good on an IG post, I don't have it no more. Go look at my closet. Damn. So this guy went from business clothes and ties to... No, I still have that, too. Oh, you still have that? So what I'm saying, though, is, like...

Whatever I wear, it's going to look good. That's just me being egotistical. You're making it lazier. So it's like, oh, if I dress, I'm going to normalize this. When I put a suit and tie on, they're like, oh, he's actually dressed up. Because the biggest slip up was getting me used to wearing uniform. Because when we were in high school, we wore uniform at our high school. Dog, it's actually a lot to go and think about what you're going to wear. You can imagine the days we had non-uniform.

man's restressing like yo can I borrow this can I borrow this this looks good with this like dog it should be you put on whatever you have and it looks good anyway because that's like your whole aesthetic that's like your vibe that's what I'm working on it was full on fashion shows in high school when we were like oh

non-uniform day came fam everyone looked like fucking highlighters wearing the most like neon clothing you remember the girls who wore like the neon uh wrestling like no they didn't wear that yeah they did fam they did or that yes it was so crazy the combinations that mans were putting together was absolutely insane but everyone's like if you think about if you really deep it it's like actually would you say this there's almost like a core of of there's a regular core

You get me? Like a normcore? No, not even like...

That's what it's called. Go-Kore. - Let's see. You go to like Marshalls or you go to like the Bay. The Bay is like Sears for you guys. So when you walk in there and look at the clothes, it's almost like all the same aesthetic. - Yeah. Low key. - You get me? - Yeah. It's like basic. It's like plain. - Yeah. I don't know what it's called though. I don't know what it's called. It's just like… - Like if plain was a word, those are the clothes you're gonna… - You know those polos fam that are like… - You know the guy… No, no. From… Okay. This is the best analogy. Minecraft Steve clothes.

That's this. No, but that's facts though. It's regular blue jeans and some next brand. No design on it. Just a regular blue shirt. That's Sears and Winners. Yo, but sometimes they do have graphics too. Kind of, but it's like the whack ones like that. Like you could find that shit. Yeah.

No, I'm talking about the graphics that have like a wave on it and shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But at the same time, like, yo, just wear what you want, man. Nobody's going to care. I recently stopped going to thrift stores because I haven't been going recently. And I finally went back. All I've seen was like Minecraft shirts and Angry Birds shirts. Oh, yeah. I got myself the fuck out of it.

- Get out of there bro, I couldn't do that no more. - Watch, that's gonna be, it's gonna be ironic, but it's gonna be drippy. Watch, watch, give it like, give it like maybe two more years, it's gonna be ironic but drippy, 'cause that's what everything is. It was ironic to wear like baggy jeans, and then now it's drippy. It was ironic to wear like skinny jeans back in like the 80s, now it's drippy. Whatever's ironic becomes drippy. Shout out Virgil, Virgil taught me that. - Ooh, that's true. - Not that I know him.

No, but I'm telling you, bro, every single thing that we're clowning right now, you're going to look at it and be like, oh shit, it was kind of cool. Yeah. It's just that we're not accustomed to the flavor. I mean,

Like, custom to the flavor. So what do you think is gonna... I was gonna say, I don't see mans wearing Angry Birds shirts, though, in the future, though. That's, like, something that will always be... Yo, but nobody saw people wearing, like, paint on their clothes. Yeah. That shit look wackin' to begin with. That is true. I have a question for you. If we took, like, a human that was from Neanderthal era and just put random shit in front of them, what do you think they would be attracted to?

What do you think they would be attracted to? Like what style do you think they would be attracted to? Or would they just not like anything at all? I don't think they would like anything because they're so used to like grass skirts and shit. So they're like, okay, that guy wearing baggy ass clothes and even that guy wearing skinny. What the hell is that? No, because this is where I'm getting to it. It's like, if you really, really deep it, the first clothing was a style.

And that was a choice. That was a choice. And then it became to like, you know, everyone was dressed up kind of nice. They had like button ups and shit. And then those golfer had like Peaky Blinder style. Okay. Yeah. That was a choice. Yeah. Me. And it was a collective choice to all dress like that. So you really take that in. Okay. Going back to that, I have a crazy story. I don't know if we, if we talked about this yet, but there was recent news on like the most convincing evidence of time travel.

What happened? I don't know if we talked about this, but there was a guy named Sergi. So he showed up.

This is the story. Randomly, he spawned in Kyiv. I think this is in Ukraine. Yeah, yeah. In 2006. But he's actually from like the 1950s. So in 2006, when he said he spawned there, he was in all these like old clothes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like 1950s clothes, not even 2006 clothes. And all he had was his old camera, right? So the police were like,

Okay, this is weird as fuck. You're telling me that you're a time traveler? I need to see pieces of ID. He doesn't have ID. All he has, he says, go look at my photos on my camera. They're undeveloped, right? So police, they develop his camera. All they see is like some random girl and him back in Kiev in 1950. It looks like the 1950s. So they're like...

Wait a minute. Who is this girl? And then he, the surgery, he's like, yo, this is my girlfriend, but I haven't seen her in so long. Wait, wait, wait. So the guy's girlfriend, the guy's girlfriend. So the guy, uh, tell, uh, well, we're not teleported. He time traveled and left the girl like back in the 1950s supposedly. Right. So police, they were like, okay, what's that girl's name? We're going to track her down. Oh,

Oh, so they go and look for her. Yeah, they go and look for her. They type in her name. They find her. She's in her 70s. Oh, shit. Sergi is in his 20s. How did he not age? So they ask, they ask the girlfriend, who, yo, who is this to you? He's like, oh, this is my boyfriend. But that was back in the 1950s. Damn.

And this is what happened. She said, oh yeah, he actually disappeared. But two years later, he came back to me. He had pictures. There's literally pictures on the internet of him in front of skyscrapers. You know what Sergi said?

He said this was pictures of him in 2050. Oh, so he went in. So he went in the future and he came back to her to tell. Oh, so they're like, they're like, okay, this is, this is getting weird. We need to like locking up, lock him up in a hotel and actually interview him. Yeah. So this is what happens. They find out.

There was another guy named Sergi from Kyiv. Same description, same everything. He actually went missing way, way, way back. So they're like, who is this? So they're like, okay, they locked him in a high rise hotel room, surveillance, everything, right? As soon as they're about to go in the room, they open the door. Sergi's not there no more. Disappears. Like no chance. Okay, so what happened to like everything else he had? Everything, he was still there.

damn so like police have evidence it's just the actual guy that says he was doing all this stuff gone holy shit damn that's like that's fun you think time travel is like a device you need to use or you think it's just like in your head in your head no you hit one of these you mean like that i think it was all an act like he he just put on these clothes and he's like actually just geeking okay real talks if time travel is real right yeah yeah

If time travel really is real, what would they want to change? And did they change it? Oh, I don't know. Cause I'm not going to lie to y'all. I'm not going to lie to y'all. How many times I said this, I said this before, but how many times have, has the world almost ended?

Bare times, bro. The world has almost ended bare times. Bare wars have been stopped. So you think that's their main mission, to stop that shit? No, like, what if the world already ended in a different timeline? And our timeline is the timeline that's been saved, like, countless times. And they just keep, like, saving shit. Oh.

I thought you were going with like, you know how the world's supposed to end in like 2012 with like a like a meteor Yeah, I thought you you said that some guy with time travel stop that meteor I don't know you can stop a meteor fam Like I don't think that's possible unless they really drive it out of the way No, bro And like when we're waiting in our bed for the world to end it doesn't end because that guy sacrificed himself No, fam

You know what your story reminded me of though? Yeah, there's this movie. It's called the age of Adeline you ever heard about this Oh, they were comparing it to that. Yeah. So in age of Adeline pretty much is this girl and She she's a she's a young looking girl. I think she's like maybe in her 30s. Okay, probably like early 30s Yeah, and she lives in the year 20. Let's say 2018. Okay, 2018 She's going out with this guy

And they go out for a date, blah, blah, blah, blah. Eventually they start dating a long time and the guy wants to introduce her to his father. So they go out, I think they go to like a cottage or something kind of far out into like the small towns. And the moment he introduces her to his father, his father looked at her and was like in shock.

Because he remembers meeting a girl exactly like her. Looked exactly like her just by a different name. And he was in shock. Now, check this out. This girl, Adeline...

Doesn't age so she's like a vampire. She doesn't age so well, how old is she right now? I forgot exactly how old she was but she's lived like countless lives Yeah, I think she's probably lived like 12 lives something like that with the different with a different name with a different like um Like place where she's staying everything different identity and one of the identities was her boyfriend's dad remembered and it was crazy because

Her identity before to him that was like the one that got away this guy this guy was mad in love with her Oh, the son is now dating her but it's the same girl Stuck up on that girl. Yeah, and then Adeline's daughter is actually older than her. Well looks older than her. Oh

So the guy now is dating an older woman, but it's stuck in a teen's body. Yeah, stuck in like a young body. Oh, that's kind of weird. Yeah. That's kind of fucking weird. Okay, but that's like the vampire shit, right? Yeah. That's not bad though. I don't know. Because if you really bag it, man's would have canceled Twilight a fair time ago. Because real talks, the guy that's fucking playing...

um the the vampire edward cullen edward cullen's like 200 years old plus but he's dating a high schooler y'all didn't cancel that that's some that's some edp that's some edp but nobody really really bagged that yeah she was probably what like 15 in the movie yeah i mean i remember there was there was another case oh what i forgot the the name of her but there was like a

I don't know if she was like a dwarf or a midget. Yeah. But she was like, she was way older than what she was. And she was like, she was like, oh, can this family adopt me and shit? And like the whole time family thought she was actually like. Oh, she's old. No, no. Like a little girl. Yeah. She was actually mad, mad old. And then I don't know what happened, but I think she tried to murder or something. Shit happened like that. I don't know about that case. Damn. Damn.

But that's scary. If a fully talking person comes up to you and says... That's like Hezbollah though. Yeah, it was kind of like Hezbollah. Yeah, it was like Hezbollah. She had like intentions to like murder this family. Damn. Yeah, so imagine a girl coming like, hey, can you adopt me? But fuck, bro. She's actually like 40 years old. I'm really curious like...

Because it's so hard to say how you would think if you're in that person's shoes. You know what I mean? And for her to become a psychopath, maybe that's not too far from what you would have done if you were stuck like that. Yeah. Because a lot of times we see psychopaths and we're like, whoa, they're so crazy. Why the fuck would they do all these things? But a lot of them have a past. And maybe if you were put in the same environment as her,

could you have turned out the same or worse yummy like you have the same environment the same trauma the same whatever like physical abilities maybe you would have done the same thing

Have you heard of the Alexi Treviso case? No. This happened recently. No, no, no. So this, people are saying she's a fucking psychopath. So this was, this happened so recently. I think it was January, January of this year. Yeah. January of this year, right? So she goes into the hospital, right? Because she's saying, oh yeah, I have hella back pain. So they're like, miss, you actually don't have back pain. You're actually pregnant. Mm.

So this fucking broke my heart fam So she goes and she's like No way She's in shock She's like there's no way I'm having a baby I'm scared I can't have this So doctors say no you have a baby You're gonna have it in a few hours Cause it's fully developed She goes into the washroom She's like okay I'm gonna washroom I'm gonna pee Fam she stays in the washroom for like 2 hours

Two hours go by, she goes out the washroom. In the washroom, there's hella blood. Yeah, yeah. She goes back in her bed and like she's chilling there, thinks no one's going to notice, right? Of the blood in the washroom. The maids of the hospital come in the washroom. They see the blood everywhere, right? She grabs the garbage and she picks it up and she notices it's mad heavy.

Oh shit So fam She literally Threw her baby Like killed her baby And threw it In the garbage bag And like There's a video when The doctors come in And the mom is And her is sitting In the bed And she breaks the news She's like

He saw a baby in the trash. That's fucked. And the mom was like... It pisses me off because she was like... Alexi was like, I don't know. That thing wasn't breathing. She kept referring it to that thing. You know? And now she's like...

And the mom pissed me off too because it was like she wasn't even like I don't know. There's no care. There's no care. There's no love for it. Which pissed me off. So now she's getting charged for first degree murder and she's getting multiple charges for I think abusing a child too which is good because that's probably she get like life in prison for that. Yeah you can. You can. Should. Because I don't because I don't think she was ready to have that baby or she didn't want to face the responsibility. Yeah.

So it's like, man's out there, just be, just be cautious of what you do, right? Wear a condom. Yeah, real shit. Wear a condom, man. Nah, bro. Yo, we were in the hospital and then the nurse asked Carlos, he's like, yo, are you allergic to anything? And then Carlos was like, latex. It's true though. I'm actually allergic to latex. I was like, man,

Latex? That's such a random... No, but I'm allergic to latex. Like, I actually am. Word? Yes. I didn't make that up. Wait, what happens? Like, do you get rashes or itchy? So, because I have braces. And how did you find that out? Because I have braces. So, I have braces, right? And then I have to put bands in my mouth. Oh, okay. So, I put, like, these rubber bands to, like, keep them, like, tight. You know what I mean?

Now, I had these first ones, had like a gorilla on them. And it's like the gorilla grip ones. Nah, but like I put those in my mouth. And then for some reason I woke up and like, yo, my shit's kind of itchy. Pause, man. Yo. No, I know it's itchy. Yeah. So I'm like, I look in the mirror and then I see a rash in the back of my mouth.

And it's like bumpy and stuff. I'm like, okay, this is not right. So I put away the thing, the rubber bands. I'm like, okay, it's got to be those. So I give it a day. I'm like, okay, nothing. It was the bands. So I go to the dentist. I'm like, yo, I still need bands. Like, okay, we'll give you these latex free ones. So ever since I use latex free condoms. You know what I mean?

I was gonna say, you're putting it on a card and you're like, oh fuck, my dick itchy. Not ever since I used latex free. There's latex free ones, bro. There's some made out of sheepskin. Oh, really? Yeah, bro. Damn. So it's like... So that might feel like amazing.

I don't know if it feels amazing. I didn't use it personally. Like I used some next one. But it's dead ass like animal skin on your piece. Whoa. But I don't know how that would feel actually. That might feel weird. So is that bestiality? Yeah. I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing. Why did you look at the camera like that?

No, but thinking there was also a haunted house where some lady was about to go in. It was like the one I was talking about where they actually like waterboard you and shit. Yeah. Yo, you know, I never knew it was like that. I never knew waterboarding was bad. What? No, like the word waterboarding, it sounds fun. Oh, like this. You thought it was like surfing. It sounds fun, yeah. No, but like the same haunted house where they waterboard you. Yeah. They...

There's like a full list of allergies or like things that they're about to do to you on the top before you enter, right? And some lady was like interviewing a person. She's like, oh, are you allergic to anything like that? And then she's looking, she's like, latex? Are they going to fuck me? Yeah, fam, you got to use the latex for me, bro. Yo, you know what bags you when you're in the hospital, fam? The nurse took off their gloves. What?

What gloves? They took off their gloves because I said latex. But it wasn't even that serious. It wasn't even that serious. But they just didn't wear gloves. I didn't notice that. You didn't notice that? Yeah. Yo, Loki, I was about to scrap the assistant. Why? Because I thought, yo, when, because the person who was helping Carlos, he had hella tats, right? Yeah. And it looked,

crazy like it was like red and shit and then you see the one the one so I looked on one and on his forearm he had like um he had like a triangle one right so first glance I was like why is the the one with the Illuminati tat sticking shit into Carlos' body pause but it was like pipes for his yo theory right now theory right now they took my blood that's what I'm saying

Oh my gosh bro. No but at the end of the day I was like yo Carlos you know this is tattooed? No what it was, it was Yu-Gi-Oh. Gavin was shook though. Gavin was shook. No I was actually ready to scrap. I was like yo can we get another one? I was gonna be like yo can we get another assistant please? Cause this one's For real you're gonna ask? Yeah obviously cause why if he had devil tattoos you're not gonna I'm not gonna let him go on that you feel me? Take my blood? Yeah that's fucked.

That's fucked. That's the last person I want operating on you. That's fucked. That's true, fam. That's real, though. If that guy was doing it on me... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I knew it was Yu-Gi-Oh. He didn't know that. Because you were too calm, fam. You were too calm. Real talks ever since I've been wearing this bracelet. Yeah. I've been wearing this bracelet. And I'm not going to say why I was in the hospital. Oh, yeah. We'll just keep it up to the audience. Make a theory of their own. But, um, yeah, I've been wearing this bracelet recently. That's tough still.

It kind of looks like chrome hearts, no? No, it does. But pretty much, there's this... Is it iced out too? Iced out church? No, there's this thing on it. Yeah, yeah. It's like a crest. Okay. And it's a crest of a saint. Now, they say this crest is supposed to... It pretty much scares away demons. Oh, yeah? Like, demons can't see it. Like, they can't... It's like vampires in garlic. You know what I mean? Okay. So...

No demons want to be around me. So have you seen recently... Yo, side note. Whenever Carlos tells me something, he says it in the most calm shit. So before the podcast, we were talking about it. He's like, yo, you know I see demons, right? I was like, time out, fam. There's no warning. Listen though. But for someone to see demons, it just acknowledges what is. Yeah, yeah. Because real talks, they're always around you, but you just don't recognize. Yeah. You get me? Yeah.

So how much temptation is there in your life? That is a demon. It doesn't have to come to you in a sense of like a monster. Has there been a scenario recently where you were like, oh, I see it. Like you see like that temptation or that demon, but you're like, okay, I'm a flat. No, real talk. Just think about it every single day. It could come in like so many different forms, fam. It could just come in.

um a form of hate it can come on a form of jealousy it can come in a form of lust you know what i mean like when when you have a huge temptation to do something and an urge that makes you not feel like your true character maybe it's not you that's all i have to say now what's crazy actually um did you know spider-man the sam raimi universe of spider-man okay every single villain is actually

facing a demon slash a possession. Really? Yeah. Okay, let's start. And nobody bagged that. Really? Check this out. So, Venom in Spider-Man 3. Yeah. This one's obvious, but remember when he was like covered in the symbiote and he was like ripping it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was in the church, remember? The only time he got it off, what was happening? There was a priest in the bottom saying, release him. Oh!

Release him. And then he pulled the thing off. And then the symbiote, the venom actually came out of him. So it was almost like a demon attaching to his soul, right? Check this out. Green Goblin. Do you remember? Green Goblin. Fem, Green Goblin is dead ass just possessed.

if you back it yeah because remember in the movie like every time he he looks at a mirror he hears another voice like tempting him and then the actual like norman osborne's like no i don't want to i don't want to yes you do you know what i mean yeah

So Green Goblin was actually just possessed by a demon. I thought he was just a psychopath. Like, you know, those bipolar. Yeah, that too. But it's very obvious because the first time you hear the voice in that movie, what do they show? They show like almost like a samurai mask. It was like, you know, the devilish one. The devil looking one. Yeah. And his mask is what? Like it literally looks like a demon. Check this out. What's his name? Dr. Octopus. Spider-Man 2.

Same shit. What was he possessed by? So remember, remember he was, he had the arms, right? Yeah. And plugged into his neck and into his nervous system. Okay. So he was a very intelligent professor, scientist, everything. It was only until the tech...

And he became a different person because he became possessed by the tech. And it was like the AI controlling his brain. In the same sense, that's still possession, fam. Every single Spider-Man villain was possessed. Damn, bro. Isn't that crazy? No, but is that symbolism for like to...

Like if kids are really watching watching it's a bag like that and like they're trying to give it in a way It's like it's not obvious. You'll also um my bad, but yeah, but Green Goblin I don't know if you remember this but there's a scene there's actually a scene where when he goes to kill Aunt May and

When Green Goblin goes to kill Aunt May, she's praying. Oh, fuck. She's praying, and then she's, like, saying the Our Father, and he busts through the wall. And then he goes, finish the prayer. And then she's, like, crying. He's like, ah!

What the fuck? Finish it. And she goes, deliver us from, and then the guy goes, and then Green Apple goes, evil. Why don't I remember that? I don't remember this. Yeah, fam. Whoa. Okay, then that theory is 100% true then. Yeah, it's all real. Low-key, all of the Spider-Man villains had to do with like, demons and possessions. Spider-Man's actually- We didn't bag it like that. Damn.

And if you want to take it a step further, you can even say like in Spider-Man 2 with Andrew Garfield. Sorry, Spider-Man, Amazing Spider-Man with Andrew Garfield. Yeah. It's the same thing. Because what's his name? The lizard became somebody else. And the serpent, blah, blah, blah. You can talk about all that shit, but you know what I mean? They were trying to hide something, bro. Yeah.

man. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Also, I seen that in celebrities. I don't know if you've seen the new Lady Gaga one where her makeup is her with like pointy things coming out her shoulders, pointy thing coming out her cheeks and pointing thing coming out her like skull. Lady Gaga has always been like that. Yeah, I know. It's always been like that.

But I also recently found out. So, you know, the Kim Kardashian curse or the Kardashian curse? Yeah. The one that's like if you date. Yeah. So there's actually lore. Yeah. So people found out that back in the 1800s, they had an ancestor, right? Called Kekil.

Right? Yeah, yeah. So, Kakeel, back then, she was, like, abused by her parents. She was 19-year-old with a kid. Her parents didn't like her. She had all types of trauma, right? So, Kakeel, she fled. She ran away from her home. And she, I think she ended up in a province in Armenia. I forgot what it's called. Yeah. Right? Right.

But in Armenia, that province is known for witches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she connected to the witches. She's like, okay, I don't want my grandchildren in the future to have the same...

upbringing as me. So I want you to grant them beauty, fortune, and fame. Right? So they did that. The witches did that. The witches said that they can grant them, but the only downfall is that they will never ever find true love.

Or they will always have troubles finding a significant other. And look what happened. It's like a curse that comes with it. That comes with it, yeah. So it makes sense because I believe it because, fam, the Kardashians, look what happened to Kanye, fell out of love. Pete fell out of love. But they do have all these fame and fortune. Yeah, fam. Because that reminds me of the Rick and Morty episode where there's a devil running the shop. And then he pretty much sells things that...

if you put these on you'll be the best basketball player but you'll break your ankles after it's like there's a curse that comes with it so you have great power but it comes with like something that that holds you back i know but that sucks though if like

That you didn't know that. So like. Imagine you're blessed now. Maybe. Your ancestors did something like that. Back in the thing. And you didn't even know. But you're. You're. You're blessed. But you also have something that. Will fuck up. Or like. Will. Well. Like your love life. Or something like that. That's not. That's like. That's like the movie Holes. Remember Holes? Oh yeah. With uh.

You remember holes with Shia LaBeouf and zero yeah, but he was pretty much cursed and To break the curse you had to do something and find this person But it just so happens like they ended up at the same spot and there was like an ancestor of ancestor Yeah, but you never that's that's what I'm so curious with is is there people in my life that I know now

that maybe my ancestors would have known you know what i mean so what do you think maybe like way way way way way back in the philippines my ancestor had a conversation with your ancestor oh fuck and they were like yo this should be a podcast i was just gonna say like there's no podcast back then but like what if there was a jumper's jump podcast bro but like not not wouldn't be yeah it wouldn't be like but like maybe like a conversation in the table you know

I just feel like Filipinos in a whole, they just love talking, fam. If I'm being real, like Tito's just love talking. That's their whole aesthetic is like drinking and talking and smoking. Oh yeah, for sure. You know those ones where it's like, you're at your cousin's party and then you're about to go home and then your mom says, okay, pack your shit up. We're going home, right? Yeah. At the door, they have like an hour conversation. They're not done yet, fam. They're not done, bro. And then you, you... You like sneak out. You go back to play. You lose that time with your cousins. Yeah.

Oh, I always sneak out. I don't know about you. I was the bad kid. I was a bad kid, fam. Like, I wait for my mom to get excited and I slip out, bro. Do you think a kid...

Is bored bad? Or like has to be like brought up bad, you know? Has to change in a way to be bad? Yeah, because I feel like Carlos, fam, you can see the baby pictures, fam. You look like a bad kid. I'm not a bad kid though, fam. I'm not a bad kid. Like I'm a great kid. Like the eyebrows tell it all, fam. You're a bad kid. Nah, real talk, I'm a great kid. Like I do great. I do good. But I'm not going to lie to you. Growing up, right away, I just had some sense of

I was lucky a bully when I was young. Yeah. Like, I was actually like, no, like, for real bully. Nah, I'm not talking. Naturally? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like, you just went up to some guys like, yo, you're a teacher. Yeah, I don't know why. No, like, for real. I was actually a dickhead. Like, I shouldn't have been doing that. Like, if I saw my little self, I would smack him.

Yeah. Like he was actually an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, I think it's like you're, you're, you're given that to become something, you know? Yeah. Cause look, look, I think life is like that where they'll give you something where you're

This is what you're given. Now learn from that. Okay. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, go ahead. It's like you're stuck with something, but you have to learn how to deal with it and then see what you can come out with it. Cause the easiest thing to do would still be an asshole to this day. Yeah. Which I'm not. Yeah, for sure. But so do you think it's, it's good that it happened to you early and then you figured it out. So now you, you can, you have all this time to like learn, right? Yeah.

So do you think here's the thing too? Yeah when I was a kid fam my My confidence my ego was to the max. I thought I ruled the world. I thought I ruled the world It's still like there though. You still have a thing. No, but like as a kid now I'm wondering now i'm wondering because it's almost as if the world society They already tell us not to so

I think when I was in elementary school, like coming to high school, that's when I really simmered down. That's when like, I felt the most, I want to say that's when I felt the most anxious, the most like introverted, the most, not myself, not my full character. Okay. Okay. And then I was even like teaching myself things that I wouldn't even have followed as a kid or even as me now. I'm like, why did he even do those things? And

And I think what it is is because that society tells us to be timid, to be not that confident, to be like somebody that listens. Because even school in general is for you to listen to your boss. The whole curriculum is for you to listen to your boss and be a good listener. It's not to make you a boss. Because elementary school, you're not really taking a lot in. You're just in your own world, right? So all the outside voices, you don't hear them. But I think it's like,

As a kid and having that confidence is like a lot of people don't have that because as a kid too, you're like, um, a lot of shit comes from your parents. So they're the one raising you. So they're giving you all the rules and shit like that. But if you feel like you're on top of the world and you're their own boss, that's crazy for a kid. No, but I'm talking like JK, SK. Oh, I'm talking like JK, SK. I'm talking like, like young, young. And then I want to say the first time I really got pressed was four grade four.

Pressed by how? Like by a teacher. Oh, really? I got pressed by a teacher. I still remember this day. No, she was like screaming at my face. Really? Like face to face, like screaming at my face. And then that's when I started to like simmer down. Because I was being told to like, don't speak too loud. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Did you have like a panic attack? No, I was just fucking frightened. Or you're just like, oh, what the fuck is going on? Like I can still see her in my nightmares, bro. She's like, she was just frightening. Yeah. Like straight up frightening. But I think...

I think everybody has somebody like that in their life that changed them, whether we acknowledge it or not, but it's like holding you back. You know Naruto, like Kurama is the demon inside of him, right? - Oh yeah. - Not to say like you have, man have demons inside of them, but it's like that true self is locked away because everybody else tells you to put it away. Like, no, we don't play with the dog. Don't play with the dog. Leave the dog in the cage. Leave the dog in the cage. Right? But what if you are the dog? You get me? What if you're the dog?

That shit sounds corny, but like, dead ass. Like some people are like that, right? Yeah. Fuck, that's low-key a bar. Because everybody has that inside of them, I think. And everybody has like a true self, but they're afraid to be their true self because they're told like, oh, you should do it like this. You should be like that. Yeah.

And then that's how you grow up. That's how you turn out, fam. Yeah, I know. But I feel like, ah, fuck. It's the reason of social media and how everyone plays a character. Because I get this so much. It's like the aesthetic on my Instagram doesn't match the way I talk. Like, everyone says that. But people don't know that the podcast is only surface level. Like, of what you see. It's hard because I'm a fashion guy. And I thought this was going to be a streetwear podcast. But you can't see my bottom half. Yeah.

How am I supposed to dress? I can only show you so much, fam. Your mucket is wacky. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm wearing shorts under this, fam. But like, I can only show you so much. But what comes is like my true personality here. Like, I can just be myself. You know? Yeah. I have a question for you, though. If there was no likes, if there was no like sharing, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you didn't even see your audience, what would you be posting? Fucking...

Oh, I would probably post it like like the shit I post on my story like the shit that I don't care about Like me going on uh ice cream run with my girl or something. Yeah, why don't you do that then? I don't know. I don't know. It's just like that's what i'm saying We have to we have to stop that shit because look it's one thing to say it and then like oh That's not cool. Like maybe the world should be more real. So fucking make it real right? I mean like actually make shit real so personally

I try to find myself like posting things that are edited. You know what I mean? That aren't like... It's raw. And I kind of like that. And that's why I really like creators like Emma Chamberlain, I guess. Because it's kind of raw. It's very like...

It's not trying to be somebody she's being her. I don't know. Do you think it's a whole game that she's being somebody? Yeah, no, I think it is a game, bro. I don't think so because if you watch her content from a long time ago, you can see the evolution. Okay. Because it's all on camera, right? But maybe the evolution is just her marketing herself better because she knows what works now. I personally disagree, but it could be. It could be. I don't know. That's a theory. I've never met Emma Chamberlain in person, but I'm pretty sure she's a pretty cool girl. Yeah. You know? That's a good theory. Yeah. Because...

Like if I go on Instagram right now, and I just like look at, let's go. I'm just gonna scroll random and boom. Free travel this guy. Like we're not gonna show it, but like boom, randomly. His profile, right? Everything is picture perfect, right? What happened to the Instagram where nothing's picture perfect?

Everyone, I don't know. Everyone is just like posting to post rather than posting to get a reaction, getting to react, you know, but that's what it is now. And we're kind of like the more we do that shit, we treat ourselves to want something out of posting, which isn't what we should. We should just post because we like, because that's what our heart told us to post. Check this out. Did you know, um,

when you scroll on TikTok, this is fucked. When you scroll on TikTok, every single time your eyes go like this, it actually increases your dopamine. - Oh for real? - Yeah. So they perfectly made TikTok so that it stimulates our eyes to increase dopamine. You can imagine we're scrolling like this, fam. - Yeah, always. - Up and down, up and down.

Every single time our eyes go up and down. If you do this up and down for like five minutes, you'll feel happy. Go do it. Up and down, up and down. Yeah, keep doing it. You get excited? Tell me you get excited, fam. I swear to God, it's crazy. That's fuuuck. Crazy shit, right? Now...

They scientifically knew that. There's no reason TikTok couldn't be horizontal. When they switched Instagram to this, I don't know, it was some random day where they finally switched to the right. Because they were trying to do Tinder. It didn't work. It didn't hit. But the moment they did up and down, it started hitting. Damn.

Nah, every dating app is like this, no? No, no, dating app is side to side. Now check this out, check this out. This is fucked too. When you put your eyes side to side, what happens? I don't know what happens. It stimulates your pleasure and relaxation. Yo, man.

so if you do this so people say like if you're having an anxiety attack you should do this like side to side look side to side okay because it stimulates your relaxation and puts you in a state of like calm yeah calm you know what i mean now check this out you know those cats you know the cat clocks that go oh eye to eye yeah that's made to like make you calm i mean it's made to like

Give that setting give that vibe of the room. What the fuck side to side side to side. No, that's so smart though I didn't know that shit and then you can imagine like why did they why did they make those those uh towers that go? Because they're going up and down fam stimulating the up and down The drop towers and shit, you know what I mean? Who told you that or you researched it? I researched it myself

And, like, think about everything, bro. We can even go to... You know, you hit the hammer, and then, like, ding. Ding, yeah. Like, you look up. Oh, shit. And it goes down. But every arcade game kind of has that motion, though, so... Yeah. Pac-Man. Yeah. You know what I mean? And this. There's stuff like this. Oh, it's not swinging, but this. Oh, not really up and down, but... No, no, that's different. Yeah, I was going to say. I was going to say, like, everything is supposed to be pleasure. Yeah, but even TV, too. Like...

If you're just awakened to these type of things, and I hate saying that shit, like being woke, but once you know and then start seeing, you'll start to recognize. Yeah. When did you start questioning everything that was happening around you? That's a good question. I actually don't know. Let me think about that. Was that during a kid too, or was it recently? Because I know it wasn't recently, but it's had to happen when you were a kid too. That's a great question, bro.

I think I always just, so first thing I always told stories. If you talk to my old elementary school friends, I'm talking like grade one and two, I would always tell stories on the bus. - Damn. - Yeah. Let's see, hold on. Let me think if I can tell you a story right now that I used to tell on the bus.

You know, they're kind of racist. I can't say that. They're like jokes. Yo, I was just going to say, yo, back then, mans were really racist though. But that was the comedy. Yeah, that was the thing though. Like mans would come up to me and like do the I shit, like the Chinese shit. I was like, bro, I'm not even Chinese, fam. I'm Filipino. But at the same time, I was categorized as Asian. So they would do that shit. But that was the comedy. I don't blame nobody for that shit. Because if you bag it, like what was out in the theaters at the time?

rush hour you know you go to a comedy store now and they bust out maybe like a one two like racist joke yeah and maybe not all of them but one person in the thing was like whoa it depends on the crowd yeah it depends on the crowd because usually when you go to a comedy like um event yeah you're there to laugh people are there to laugh so it's not taken seriously exactly but if I'm being real when I was a kid I was telling some racist jokes like

but it was jokes fam it wasn't even like it was it was you know what I mean it was about like Filipinos too Asians and shit you know I was always the one when I was growing up I was always the one getting frightened by stories I was never the one to be telling the stories you know what I mean yeah like I don't know why but throughout my life it's like I've always had like delays of me growing up because fam you know how when did you stop using diapers

When I stopped using diapers. You were probably in JK without diapers. I don't remember. So everyone is in JK without diapers. Fam, I think I was still in JK with diapers. Word. Yeah. So I always had a delayed growth. You feel me? I had to ease into it. You feel me?

And that's been the pattern. Wow, interesting. So that's why when men say like, oh, like whenever they talk to me, they're like, oh, I thought you were way younger. I was like, oh, that's a compliment because obviously I want to stay young. You feel me? But they thought I was like 17, 18. I was like, nah, I'm 20. You got like...

I got like late diaper energy. No real shit though. I like, but whenever it comes to kids, whenever I'm babysitting and shit, they always gravitate towards me. That's one thing I noticed. Kids like you cause you're like more like a kid. Yeah. I guess I gravitate that energy towards them. You know, this, I think, I think I have a beef with, with babies, bro. Like babies don't like me. I think babies don't like me. Yeah. You're you, you look, you look hell of me. And I, no, babies don't like me. And I, and I don't know what to do with babies. That's, that's the one thing I can't deal with is like,

If somebody gives you a baby, I'm in shock. Like, I don't even know what to do. Really? Yeah, I don't know. Why do you feel that? I don't know. That's like my fear. I don't know. This guy has arachnophobia except for babies. No, I'm scared of three things, fam. What? The police, God, and babies, fam. That's a good three. I ain't gonna lie. That? Yeah.

Police, God, and babies, man. And I've seen all... No, I haven't seen the baby. No, you'll see it because I'm mad awkward. Okay, okay. Especially if someone hands me a baby. Yeah. Like, if a baby's in the room, you know how people, like, do the baby talk and shit? Yeah.

I don't have that funny bone in me, fam. I can't do like... Yeah, I can't do that shit, bro. I can't see you doing that, fam. I can't do that. Yeah, yeah. It's not in me. Word. No, yo, there was this fucking crazy-ass story where some lady murdered her husband and then wrote a children's book about it.

Damn. Do you know about this? What book is this? Did we read it? No, no. We didn't read it. It's fucking... It's low-key really recent. The name of it is Are You With Me? And this was a book to help kids, like, cope with the death of a loved one, right? So, this lady, uh...

This happened recently 2022 Her name was I think it was Corey And she had a husband Named Chris Right So the night That he died Corey Set him up So she made him Like a drink Before they went to bed It was like a vodka drink But she laced that shit With fentanyl Damn What the fuck Yeah So on her When she was talking With the police She was like

She said that night she slept in her children's room, in her son's room, because she was having nightmares, shit like that. And that her phone was in her husband's room, right? And then at 3 p.m., this is from her perspective, she went back into her husband's room, and that's when she found him laying on the fucking ground, right? But police searched into this, right? They said that...

You were actually on your phone the whole time because you were texting someone else, right? And where was the phone? In your husband's room. So all the stories that you're telling us, fake, man, because you're in your husband's room, right? Records also shown that she actually tried murdering her husband many times before that. Because the husband wanted a divorce. Huh.

Oh, so she was trying to like end it before. Oh, so she can take the money. Exactly. So the Lily, I think the day after she, she laced that, uh, her husband. Yeah. She, she was also into real estate and she just closed a big deal. Right. She didn't even throw a funeral. She threw a party. She threw a party for her big deal clothes and like all the money that she got in. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Yeah. After her husband died, after her husband, the day after she threw a party for her, for her success. Damn.

That's fucked up. The week after she wrote a book, the book that I was telling you, How to Cope with a Loved One Dying. Fam, she sold it and it actually did really well. It's like a New York Times bestseller? Yeah, like a fucking Robert Munch type shit. That's fucked up. It was about her father. It was about her husband dying. Bro.

Psychopath man Shit dog Yeah Sometimes psychopaths make the best art though That's so fucked the same I'm playing I'm playing I'm playing That's so fucked the same No I'm playing But Who knows like who wrote all these other children's books I was thinking of writing a children's book too Oh yeah But something like Something like super simple Yeah No No Deadass Gavin Uh

Like sometimes I This is lowkey my riz Oh yeah I would Okay like on FaceTime calls Yeah You can ask Steph this too Okay I would be like Let's say a good night story Like a bedtime story And I would come up with one on the spot Oh really And you're like fucking telling her And it's like an actual good story Like it's actually like Is that had meaning at the end What the fuck No fam Like I'd be like Off the rip right now Okay let's see Once upon a time There was a frog And every single day The frog went to go Go look for his friend Oh

And him and his friend would hop around and leap on the... What do you call these shits? Lily pads? The lily pads. So once upon a time, the frog and his friend were doing the lily pad jump. And I was like, wow, you can jump pretty far. And the other frog said, yeah, bro, you can do it too. So they kept jumping and kept jumping. And one time, the frog, he sprained his ankle. There's no way this works, bro. Listen, listen, listen. And the other frog said...

Hey, it's okay. You don't have to keep jumping. We can do something else. So they started to swim and they swam towards the shore. Now at the shore, there was a snake. Okay, what happened to the snake? The snake was slithering towards them, looking for lunch. The snake saw the two frogs. Now frightened, the one frog with the broken ankle knew it was his time to die. What the fuck? Because he had a broken ankle. He can't get away.

But the other frog said, "I got this." Since the other frog could jump farther, he decided to make the run for it and distracted the snake. - He left his homie? - He left his homie, but distracted the snake so that the snake would follow him and he could jump farther. Now it was getting close. The snake was coming very close to eating this frog. But what happened? He said,

never mind he's too fast and went to go eat the other one the end there's no way that we're so so say you're not you're setting man's up for failure because they're about yo all of our fans are about to be like on the first date they're literally about to do that same so imagine they're at a restaurant okay that's that's literally off the dome but i said some better ones back in my day i said some better ones back in the day but i usually make it more cute because it's you i'm not gonna make that cute oh yeah yeah me i'm saying it's you i'm not gonna spit like

The sappy, like, loved ones, fam. Okay, got you, got you. Trust me. No, because trust me, I'm not going to say, like, the sappy loved ones to you because you're going to think I'm gay. Okay, okay. Makes sense, makes sense. You're like, yo, you're sus, bro. Makes sense. So, okay, maybe the cute ones. I don't know. I don't know how that works, though. It does work. So, like, you tuck her in and she's like, okay, I'm ready. And then you fucking start telling the story. No, and then, like, you get her to add on to the story, too. But maybe that's my own thing. Maybe, like, it doesn't work for everyone else. Yeah, definitely your own thing, bro.

Cause I was like, yo, but actually that could be kind of cute if your girlfriend would be like, all right, you know why this works? There's some dark game on this. I'm going to tell you why this works. Okay. Here's why. No, like this is dead ass why. So scientifically, this is kind of fucked. It's dead ass dark game. So scientifically we have like an attachment to our parents and we're always looking for our parents in a loved one.

and as crazy as this sounds it's true like your significant other resembles either your mother or father and if you're talking to somebody that like as a kid they would read a storybook before bed what's that gonna bring them back to you and most of the time they haven't heard that and that part of their brain has been stimulated yeah for probably years maybe centuries okay not centuries i'm joking but like you know so like

Imagine someone actually does that though Like just in the middle of a date So there's a story No not on a date Like when it's late When it's late Trust me it works bro Yeah I wouldn't lead my dogs astray Of course I should put that on a t-shirt I don't lead my dogs astray Yeah I get it You know what I mean Astray Oh shit

Because dogs are strays too? We need a merch. Like, okay, if we had merch or three t-shirts, we definitely need a knocking on wood one. Yeah. What's another one we could do? Somebody made a, I think LB. Shout out LB. Who's LB? He's my friend. Okay.

He said, he said, he made one actually, if you really bag this. And it was like a bag. It was like a tote bag. It was a tote bag. He's like, if you really bag this. Because I always say that. If you really bag it. Okay, okay. I don't know why I say that all the time. Yeah. Now that I think about it, I don't think anybody else says that. It's not even Toronto slang, is it? Do you think the people, because like when I'm watching someone like David Parody, I start, I pick up on their lingo. Like sasaji, or no, not sasaji, but like I'm cheesed, I'm aged.

Yeah. Like shit that I didn't used to say before, right? Yeah. You think people that watch us like actually go out and say like, even though they're not from Toronto, like a lie. Cause a lot of people are saying like, why does Gavin say a lie? No, it's a lie. So it's A-H-L-I-E. It's one word. And it's Toronto slang for confirmation. If you guys didn't know. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Cause...

I don't know. Probably. Yeah. I would like watch, let's say Fresh Prince and then just pick up on lingo. Yeah. Or like pick up on... That's what I was saying before. I think I said this on a different episode, but every time we watch cartoons, that's kind of programming us to speak. Yeah. Because that's what we hear the most of speaking. Yeah. And then we become like...

Don't know even our vocal fluctuations matches those cartoon characters because that's the normal that's like the normal way to speak And I feel like our fans to haven't seen much of us like off the podcast because that that one you did with um What's the the guy with a long hair the white guy?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was such a gem because that... Because it was so early, too. And you were talking about, like, the shit, like, with him. He, like, he actually knew hella shit about World War II and stuff. And, like, the Under the Influence, man still haven't watched that. Or, like, a lot of fans haven't watched that. That's a gem, too. Like...

That was our first time, both of us, on a different podcast. Yeah, that's true still. So man's never seen this, like aside from this and maybe your vlogs, but that's it. Yeah. A lot of people thought it was short. Yeah. I'm not actually short. I know. We're actually not short. We're fucking 5'11".

- No, I think they think we're short 'cause we're Asian. - Yeah, I know. See, that's internal racism, bro. - Oh, this is where I wanna get to. - Yeah. - Damn. - What happened? - Check this out. I was watching, motherfucking, I was watching this show. It's called "Chinese Born American." - Okay.

I have a theory. I have a theory, bro. I think they made that show to discredit Asians and bring them back 50 years. This is why I'm saying that. Why? So the cast is an all-star cast. The cast is actually the cast of Everything Everywhere All at Once. The same? Like almost the same. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now check this out. I turned it on. I'm like, okay, this must be fire. I look into it. Dog. Right away. First off.

The two protagonists, Chinese, Asian, right? They're the losers of the school. The school is predominantly white. Who's the cool kids at the school? The white kids. You know what I mean? They're the jocks, blah, blah, blah. He has negative riz. Damn. And then this is where it really pissed me off. His best friend is

is brown and he's he's like also he's also like a geek like a loser they make him like a loser because he uh cosplays and he's looked at as a weirdo why do you make him brown i'm

Make him white then. You know what I mean? Like, yo, and at least, at least if, if they added a one, two Asian into the popular group. Okay. I would have been, I, I'd say that's just diverse. I just diverse. Okay. But they made the whole popular group white. And it's like that the only brown kid that was there. The only brown kid that's in the show. Only brown kid in the show. They also made a, like a loser. Like why? Like at least put a brown kid in the popular group too. Yeah. You know what I mean? The problem I have with it. Cause here,

The movie, it's kind of trying to tackle Asians being looked at as this. But it's not... They're trying to be woke with it. But I can guarantee you, nobody's looking at it that deep. They just see the surface. And what from the surface do we see? Every single thing, we've tried to change. Asians being losers. You know what I mean? Now the popular kids. Yeah. And it's low-key kind of racist. All of a sudden...

The guy is a kung fu master. What like like like he's he's like, uh, he's like, uh He's like a god of like chinese thing and it's pretty much like a kung fu kung fu type of thing But that's we're bringing it all the way back to the beginning fam Like we're all all we're cool at like we're losers, but all of a sudden if you do kung fu you're sick They've never heard of the yakuza, bro. Like come on, man. We were cool, bro. You know what I mean? And like ah Dead ass

If they just done American Dragon Jake Long, if they just did that, American Dragon Jake Long instead, and they like live action, it would have been better than that shit. But right now, it doesn't sit right with me. Is this on Netflix? What is it called again? I'm going to watch it. Chinese Born American. Or actually, I should have watched it. Watch like the first episode and tell me what you think. Okay, okay. Because I told Ethan to watch it too. Yeah. Because he's an actor, right? I'm like, yo, Ethan, watch it.

And he told me, yeah, this is like, this is not good. It's kind of like, fuck. Cause I see what they're trying to do. They're trying to kind of make it like woke and be like, yo, we shouldn't, we shouldn't put these stereotypes on these. It's like, you should think that deep. Nobody's thinking that deep. Nobody's thinking that deep. Maybe I was, maybe like a couple others, but like what theory, right?

They chose that cast because they're fucking, they won an Oscar. Yeah. And then they want to discredit all that. They want to put like a taint on it. That's my theory though. That's my theory. Oh, there was a, there was another theory that, um, uh, the girl who lost, uh, best supporting actress. Yeah. It was supposed to go to that Asian girl, that really good Asian actor and everything, everywhere, all at once. Yeah. But so the thing about, uh, Grammys or the, I mean the, the Oscars,

Is that there's always that one snub because they don't want to give the whole winnings to Asian people, right? So they were looking at it. They're like, okay.

We can't snub the main character because she's already old. So she might not have another good movie. We'll give her the Oscar. The guy who won. Data, he was like hella happy. He's also very old, right? So they're like the person that we can't snub, even though she had a really great role, she's still young. She'll have another role, right? So they gave it to the white lady. That was the only white lady of that cast who won the Oscar.

So fam, it's definitely a thing of like, they've got to keep it balanced. Asians are doing too good, man. Asians are doing too good and they just want to bring us back down. Another thing that I noticed recently on TikTok is that, you know, at prom, when black people do prom, it's like the Met Gala compared to everyone else, right? And there's like, people are calling it like,

A hood prom Even though What do you mean? So they're calling it like When people When the black people dress up And then They have like feathers on their dress And shit like that There's a whole category of They're calling it hood prom now Why? Why is it a hood prom? At the same time People are calling a hood prom Femme

You're that you're racist fam because at the same time you how can you call it hood prom when their dresses are like $500 their cars that they're pulling up in is like $1,000, you know, that's all luxury, but you're calling it hood prom You don't see the like the yeah, like they want to they want to call it one They see a minority, you know having fun doing their own thing. They can never just let it be fam. That's a fuck

- Hood prom is so crazy. - Why would they call it that? - Just call it prom. Why do you have to add hood in it? - Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. The school called it that? - No, no, like the TikToks. - Yeah, like when white people see other like black people dress up, they're like, oh, that's a hood prom. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. - You know? - Yeah. - It's fun fam. - I did see a TikTok of a real like hood prom though. They brought all their glocks and shit. - Oh, okay, that's-

No, if you see my my my youtube short sometimes like I was I was on a YouTube shorts and it's like kids at prom with gloss I like lasers. They go like this They're like all going like with the laser like this. Yeah, why though? It look kind of tough I'm not gonna lie look kind of tough without that's besides the point That would never slide fam. It can't that's illegal first off, but I'm pretty sure like certain stays like you're okay. Mm-hmm

I don't know. I'm not from the States. No. But yeah, hood problem is, don't coin that term, man. That's fine. Do you think, bro, this is the problem, right? It's like, do you think it's ever possible for Asians to like get up and then just stay there? Like they're going to keep dragging us down. Like everybody's going to keep dragging us down at some point. Or do you think it's just like that for everyone in general? Ah.

I think it's kind of like that for everyone. I feel like, no, we have our moments and then man just pull us down. No, I think it's like that for a lot of minorities, but there's always going to be a balance. Like, we're never supposed to, like, be up like that, you know? We're always blacklisted from something. Like, how the fuck did we go from winning the Oscars to making that show? Like, it just cheeses me. Exactly. But it's something like...

You know these big fashion like or the movie the big movie producers or the fashion producers, right? There's a script you think no, no, I'm saying like they they always get their influence from the streets So from us from the minorities doing we have because we have to create right? So all these people like their main influence that they're taking from is the streets. You can see it everywhere and

H&M they're taking kids ideas like that are local brands and they're putting on a t-shirt Yeah, it's literally all about like balance, but they won't tell you that True, it's just corporate when it gets corporate So we're always gonna be up in our own like underground way But we're never like they'll there'll be a few that make it to the mainstream. But look what happened to Virgil There's theories you feel me that he got up to mainstream. Look what happened to him. I

I had a theory about Virgil. I thought this was my personal theory. I don't want to say it like too early, but bro, it's kind of obvious. Yeah.

An artist, when he passes away, what happens? The art, the value of the art goes up. Oh, this is fun. I don't even know if we should talk about this one. Why? Say it. So they leaked, they leaked. Jeffrey Epstein's. Yeah. Jeffrey Epstein's list. No, you know who I saw that on there? Donovan Mitchell. It was the most random shit ever. And a name like that being on there makes me think it's real. Yeah. No, it was so random. To have like a random name like that, that has to be real. That has to be real, fam.

Like, why out of everyone, Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert? Hold on. Let me pull up. Let me pull up the list. Pull that up, fam. Please. The list is kind of crazy. I feel like this is a big topic, but we've never talked about it. Ever. Because it's dangerous. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. We're at a point. All right. Jeffrey Epstein's Island Visitors. This shit's crazy, fam. First off, we have motherfucking Celine Dion, Chris Tucker. We got...

Donovan Mitchell's right there. Donovan Mitchell's right there. And then you have like the popular ones, like the obvious, like Jay-Z. Jay-Z's obvious? Yeah, of course Jay-Z's obvious. Yeah, Jay-Z. We got Robert De Niro. Robert Downey Jr. Paris Hilton, that's kind of obvious. Let's see. Gwen Stefani. James Franco, that's obvious.

Jim Carrey, that's kind of wild. But I feel like Jim Carrey, that's obvious too because he was trying to expose it. Yeah, expose it. Jimmy Kimmel, obvious. Joe Biden. Joe Biden went to the, what the fuck? I feel like that's obvious too. That's obviously obvious, I guess. Justin Trudeau. Yo, what the fuck? I feel like everyone who has power now has been in that.

Drake's not on this though. Yeah, shout out Drake, man. Drake's not on this. Jeffrey Island list. W man. Jeffrey Epstein Island. Pharrell. Pharrell, Quentin Tarantino. I kind of see that. Tom Hanks. Ellen, of course. Ellen, of course. Let's see. Who else is on there? That's weird. Give us a weird name. A weird one. All right. Katy Perry. Katy Perry.

Kinda, I can see your- Eminem. Oh, that's kind of crazy. Eminem being there is kind of crazy, fam. Miley Cyrus is kind of obvious. I know MGK is on there somewhere, or has to be. There's no way MGK is not on there. Yeah, he's definitely Illuminati. Beyonce, yeah, all these people. Angelina Jolie, okay, boom. You know what's crazy, though? Yeah.

This is what's crazy. I saw this other TikTok. Okay. Check this out. So there's this woman. She's doing kind of like a TED Talk. I think her name is Barbara Marks Hubbard. And she's like intellectual. She talks about things. Yeah. And she was doing this TED Talk. She said she slipped up. She was talking about evolution and talking about becoming like a better human. This is what she says.

I realized is we are the first species on the face of this earth to be of evolution, to be aware that we are affecting our evolution. Listen to what she says. Everything that we do, the babies we eat, the food we eat. Whoa, whoa. You heard that shit? What the fuck? What the fuck, man? The babies we eat? Look, listen. In a tentacle wars we fight. See? And we fight.

The babies we eat, the food we eat, the wars we fight. And then she starts stuttering like, the babies, wait. And we do. The babies we eat, the food we eat, the wars we fight. That's far. There has to be some man in the crowd who has to stand up and be like, time out. So what's crazy, right? Theory, when she's talking about evolution and people trying to be the better human, be like, you know what I mean? Different, evolve. Yeah.

They're eating babies to evolve to like, you know what I mean? Because it stimulates their mind or whatever it does. Because it probably does some crazy shit to them. It is unethical, but you know what I mean? That's their thing. Is this deleted? This has to be deleted, TED Talk. Because there's no way they let that go. I don't know. It's out there. What the fuck, fam? It's out there. Because it was a slip. It was like a slip-up. Yeah. And then that, I feel like the slip-ups is when you really know. Like the, what do you call this? The one with the jacket? Yeah.

Who was it? The Freemason thing? Yeah, the Freemason thing. It's fucked. Nah, fam. When people slip up and then they show their true character, that's when you really know. Like when Aiden Ross said the N-word, I wasn't surprised. I mean, he just slipped up. You definitely knew he said it all. He says it in his head all the time, fam. It's not that big a deal. Real talk. Real talk. But personally, I just think

I don't think like, let's say you say things in your head. If it's not negative, I don't think it's bad. But I guarantee you, the people that say negative things all the time, it's already a punishment enough. Oh, yeah. I feel like that just attracts bad energy. Yeah, because they're going to get fucked up anyway. Like, as they should, you know? But this is so random, but going back to tattoos. You know how Hailey Bieber...

Yeah, Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez have this beef and how there's this whole drama. She's copying everything she does. Oh, she's copying everything. Yeah, so did you know that Hailey Bieber has the same... So Selena Gomez has a G tattoo. Yeah. Right in her... Outside of her ear, right? Yeah, for Gomez? Yeah. No, no, for her little sister's name, right? Hailey Bieber gets the same tattoo, same font, same position. Word.

I don't know why the fuck she got it, but isn't that fucking weird? Wait, for what though? I don't know. Is there a meaning for it? I think there's a meaning, but why would she copy Selena after everything that she's getting accused for, you know? Damn. And if you didn't know this, so Justin Bieber has Selena Gomez tattoo on his...

Yeah yeah yeah On his wrist And he'd like Try to cover it a little bit And a rose Yeah Which symbolizes Like the rose He always gets for Selena So on the wedding When Hailey Hailey and they were Getting married The bouquet that she had Was a bunch of roses And when Hailey Gave it to Justin He's like Yo we need another bouquet bro Cause this reminds me Too much of my ex Word Yeah And but this is crazy too People are saying that

uh justin bieber still fucks with selena because when in their marriage pictures when they were hugging right yeah justin bieber went like this and showed the tattoo while dog hugging hayley everybody everybody's saying like oh this little thing is is a call out is a call out oh it's subliminal it is it sucks because it kind of does look like that it looks like

Like even even though it doesn't it shouldn't be like it all adds together. It kind of looks like that You think he's doing that on purpose? Yes, has he went out and said like bro, this is y'all need to relax So low-key you've only Selena you doing that on purpose. I mean, it's good publicity stuff. Where are you? Yeah, it's good publicity I don't know if you know this too, but Haley actually met Justin like when they were mad young and

Yeah. You know that? But the dad was like, oh, this is my daughter, Haley. Fuck it. Oh, that's just Bieber. There's a theory that like, nevermind. We're getting too deep into like. That's good though. No, we're getting too deep. But no, I'll leave that one out. Okay. But.

But fam, powerful people, they can just, you know. Yeah. Make shit happen. A lot of fam. You never know. Make shit happen, fam. You never know. We see the new Jeffrey Epstein list and it's fucking... Gavin Rudd on that, bitch. No, chill. Never say that. I will never go to that shit. This guy loves parties, man. You're catching me. Don't say that, fam. Don't say that, fam. This guy said, I love parties.

No, man. Yo, the crazy shit I see at the club, fam. Actually, no. Let me not expose that too, fam. Yo. I'm getting too deep. Yeah, you almost got caught right there, bro. What crazy thing? What are you looking at at the club? All I'm going to say is fucking girls really just go to the club and cheat on their boyfriends, fam. It's fucked, man. That's all I'm going to say, man. Damn, bro. Hot girl summer. The weather gets warmer and they're at every...

Club motive, man. Stay safe, boys. Stay safe, boys. It's not my girl. You feel me? My girl, she's good. I have a question for you, though. This is actually a hot take. I just want to say this real quick. Okay, okay. I know a lot of people are going to disagree with me for this, too. Okay, okay. Let me see. The only reason people would want to go to the club is for attention.

Yeah, for attention from who? From people that aren't your friends. Yeah, no. I 100% agree with that, fam. Because I'm going to lie. When I'm at the club without my girl, it doesn't feel the same. Like, why am I really here for? I have a girl. It's like, I'm secured. Round of applause. Wow. You feel me? Round of applause, Gavin. Round of applause. Round of applause. No, because really. I'm there for the hoes. No, no. If you really bag it, like, I'm thinking like, yeah, girls always go out to the club, even though I have a man. Yeah. Yeah.

What are they really doing then? No, real shit. Y'all want to dance? Y'all want to have fun? Yeah. Can't you like dance somewhere else? Exactly. But the craziest thing too is like when girls go out and they don't pay for shit, right? Yeah. They finesse. They finesse from promoters. To get free drinks and shit. And what do you think they're doing to get these free drinks, fam? They're talking. They're smooth talking. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that though. There's nothing wrong with that. But fam, that's low-key a form of flirting. Am I wrong?

Am I wrong? I mean, there's nothing like real talks. There's nothing really wrong with it, but it just, it just, it's just interesting. Like, is there accountability there? Like, am I like for me being, you know, am I really going to put myself into a position where I could get pussy? Like, would I really do that? Would I really do that? Why? That is true. It's like accountability. No, it's like, yeah, people. It's okay. Look, like it's a great example. Okay. I'm a fluffy little bunny. I mean,

And I go into like a den of wolves. Yeah. Well, shit, like I'll probably get eaten. You know what I mean? Like you know you're going to get eaten. Like imagine I'll probably get eaten. You feel me? Like, yo, but all the bunnies are there and we're like, we're turning up. Like, yeah. Y'all want to turn up?

It's dark in the cave, yeah. The wolves are there. Alive, fam. But there's nothing wrong with that. Like, real talk. Like, dude, have your fun, fam. No, I think there's something wrong with that. It's like, if your girl purposely goes out and flirts with the promoter, gets the drinks, and is literally getting drinks poured in her mouth, that's cheating to me. I wouldn't want to... You feel me? Like, even though I'm good with my girl going out, fam, but that is...

Okay, here's what I'll say. I'll never let a man pour a drink in my girl's mouth. Okay, here's what I'll say. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that, but y'all take accountability. You know what I mean? Just take accountability. Yeah. That's all. That's all. Okay. I get that. I get that. Yeah. It's like, don't be lying to nobody. Yeah, exactly. Like, come home like, oh, I wasn't doing nothing. Like, come on, bro. We know what you're doing. You were outside. You were outside?

But yeah, man. Man, I wish you could continue this, but there's topics we can't talk about. Why, fam? Let's just continue. No, we can't. You already said the Jeffrey Epstein shit. Nah, we can't talk about it, fam. Okay, that's true. Okay, let's end it there. Thank you everyone for watching this episode of the Jumper Jump Podcast. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe. Go check out my other channel. Link in the description below to watch my vlogs. Yes, sir. Make sure to go to Spotify, Apple Music. Give this show a five star. Follow us both on our Instagrams.

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