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Dan Pfeiffer
前白宫通信主任和《Pod Save America》播客的共同主持人，专注于政治、通信和数字策略。
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Donald Trump
批评CHIPS Act，倡导使用关税而非补贴来促进美国国内芯片制造。
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Jon Favreau
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Katie Porter
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Tommy
Jon Favreau: 特朗普的贸易战可能导致经济衰退，特别是他对欧洲葡萄酒和香槟征收200%的关税，进一步加剧了全球经济的不确定性。特朗普的政策不仅影响了美国与欧盟的关系，还引发了市场的动荡。
Dan Pfeiffer: 特朗普的关税政策缺乏战略，只是随意的决定。他的政策不仅没有帮助美国制造业，反而导致了经济的短期和长期痛苦。特朗普试图逆转全球经济，这是完全不现实的。
Donald Trump: 特朗普认为他的关税政策是为了保护美国经济，防止其他国家继续“剥削”美国。他坚称这些政策将带来更多的税收收入，并最终使美国更富有。
Deep Dive
The hosts discuss the political strategy surrounding the potential government shutdown, analyzing the Democrats' position and the impact on public opinion.
- Democrats need eight Senate Democrats to break a filibuster for the Republican funding bill.
- The funding bill includes cuts to housing, health care, and gives Trump more power over tariffs.
- Historically, the party seen as causing the shutdown faces political backlash.
- Democrats have an opportunity to fight back using popular issues like Social Security and veterans' benefits.
- The media environment complicates messaging and public perception during a shutdown.
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