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Elon Musk's Nerd Coup

2025/2/4
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Brittany Brown
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Donald Trump
批评CHIPS Act,倡导使用关税而非补贴来促进美国国内芯片制造。
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Jon Favreau: 特朗普和马斯克几乎完全控制了联邦政府的资金,获取了所有美国纳税人的私人信息,并关闭了数十亿美元的政府机构,这是一种危险且史无前例的行为。民主党人正在试图反击,但他们的权力有限。我们需要关注马斯克的行为,并利用其负面形象来打击特朗普。 Jon Lovett: 特朗普享受击败哥伦比亚的快感,并准备进一步挑战区域经济体。马斯克的行为令人震惊且史无前例,他将 USAID 称为邪恶的组织。 Tommy Vitor: 马斯克试图控制政府支出的方式是愚蠢的,其动机可能并非真正为了削减开支。特朗普更关心政治影响,而不是实际的贸易结果。民主党人应该关注马斯克的行为,并利用其负面形象来打击特朗普。特朗普政府的行为是权力攫取,违反了法律和规范。 Donald Trump: 我认为可以无需国会批准就取消 USAID。我对与墨西哥和加拿大达成的协议感到满意,但对中国仍计划征收关税。 Elon Musk: 我发现了财政部向恐怖分子支付款项的情况(缺乏证据),并正在关闭 USAID(称其为邪恶的组织)。 Brittany Brown: 关闭 USAID 将对全球人道主义援助工作造成严重影响,包括在冲突地区和受灾地区的工作。关闭 USAID 是对国会权力的考验,我对特朗普政府的说法表示怀疑。 Brian Deese: 特朗普的关税政策是短期政治策略,而非长期经济规划。市场对特朗普关税威胁的反应表明,人们普遍认为他只是在虚张声势。 J.D. Vance: 未经选举的官僚不应该反抗美国总统。 Chuck Schumer: 民主党人正在采取各种措施反击特朗普,包括阻止国务院提名。

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The episode begins by discussing Trump's announced tariffs on Chinese goods and those from Canada and Mexico. The hosts debate whether these tariffs are a genuine trade war or a negotiating tactic. They analyze Trump's statements and the responses from Mexico and Canada, questioning the significance of the concessions.
  • Trump announced tariffs on Chinese, Canadian, and Mexican goods.
  • Mexico and Canada made concessions, but their value is debated.
  • The potential economic impact on consumers and specific industries are discussed.

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With Donald Trump's blessing, Elon Musk and a small crew of inexperienced software engineers take near full control of the government, moving to shut down USAID and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and taking control of a critical payment system at the Treasury Department. Trump delays his trade war with Canada and Mexico by a month after securing minor concessions that were probably already in the works. Meanwhile, congressional Democrats begin to push back harder—though whether it'll be enough is still an open question. Jon, Lovett, and Tommy break down all the latest, and Lovett speaks with former Obama and Biden economic adviser Brian Deese about just how bad things could get if a real trade war kicks off over the next four years.