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U.S. Recession Fears Fuel Stock-Market Plunge

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Francesca Fontana: 报道了美国经济衰退担忧引发全球市场暴跌的新闻,并提出了美联储是否在降息方面行动迟缓的问题。 Jack Pitcher: 分析了美联储的利率决定和令人失望的就业报告导致市场抛售的原因,并指出市场可能面临更多动荡。 Greg Ip: 解释了市场担忧的原因,包括美国经济可能正在衰退或即将衰退,以及美联储在权衡充分就业和物价稳定两个目标时面临的困境。他分析了导致市场担忧的几个因素,例如失业救济金首次申请人数居高不下,一些公司警告需求疲软,低端消费者难以偿还债务等。他还探讨了美联储未来可能采取的应对措施,例如通过公开市场操作进一步增强其降息信号。他认为,目前的市场抛售更像是对某些过度行为的修正,而非危机的预兆,并且现在降息还为时尚早。 Francesca Fontana: 报道了美国经济衰退担忧引发全球市场暴跌的新闻,并提出了美联储是否在降息方面行动迟缓的问题。 Jack Pitcher: 分析了美联储的利率决定和令人失望的就业报告导致市场抛售的原因,并指出市场可能面临更多动荡。 Greg Ip: 解释了市场担忧的原因,包括美国经济可能正在衰退或即将衰退,以及美联储在权衡充分就业和物价稳定两个目标时面临的困境。他分析了导致市场担忧的几个因素,例如失业救济金首次申请人数居高不下,一些公司警告需求疲软,低端消费者难以偿还债务等。他还探讨了美联储未来可能采取的应对措施,例如通过公开市场操作进一步增强其降息信号。他认为,目前的市场抛售更像是对某些过度行为的修正,而非危机的预兆,并且现在降息还为时尚早。

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Fears of a U.S. recession sparked a global market meltdown. And the question on everyone's mind, did the Federal Reserve wait too long to cut interest rates? It's still not clear that inflation has been fully pushed back towards the Fed's 2% goal. So I think it's still too early to think that the Fed has to break the glass and cut interest rates now. But as they say, watch this space. Plus...

More tensions are brewing in the Middle East amid warnings of an imminent Iranian attack on Israel. It's Monday, August 5th. I'm Francesca Fontana for The Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today. A steep sell-off started in Japan's stock market and spread across the globe.

as U.S. indexes plunged and volatility spiked. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost more than 1,000 points, while the S&P 500 lost 3%, and the tech-heavy Nasdaq fell 3.4%. Here to walk us through the market's mayhem is WSJ reporter Jack Pitcher. Jack, we've seen volatility and unexpected moves in the market recently, like the big rotation out of tech giants and into small cap stocks, for instance. But what made today's activity different?

Last week on Wednesday, at the conclusion of the Fed meeting, the central bank held rates steady and signaled that they might start cutting at the next meeting in September. Then on Friday, we had a jobs report that was worse than pretty much anyone on Wall Street expected, showed the unemployment rate going up to the highest level in several years and the economy adding quite a bit fewer jobs than people expected. Now you're seeing markets sell off people's

People were wondering if the economy is not as good as people thought and how to trade that. Looking forward from today's nosedive, does it seem like the worst is over or is there more turbulence yet to come? Heading into this morning after there was a really deep sell-off in Japan, I think there was a lot of borderline panic as people saw different measures of volatility going up to the highest level in years.

Stock futures were down quite a bit as Monday went on. The market calmed down a little bit. But these things rarely play out over just one day, and we definitely could be in for more turbulence going forward. That was my colleague, markets reporter Jack Pitcher. At the center of this global market sell-off are concerns about a slowing U.S. economy. Last week, traders digested the Fed's decision to keep interest rates unchanged and Friday's disappointing jobs report.

Now, worried investors are debating one big question. Has the Fed moved too slowly in cutting rates? Here to explain is Chief Economics Commentator Greg Ip. Greg, what's driving these fears of recession? There's a couple of factors at work. I think markets began to weaken sometime last week. Actually, before even we got the jobs report, roughly around when the Bank of Japan raised interest rates, that caused a sell-off in Japanese markets, and that seems to have spread to other markets recently.

So that seems to be one of the major factors going on here. Separately, on Friday, we learned that job growth was quite weak, the weakest in several years, and that the unemployment rate had risen to 4.3%. And in fact, the unemployment rate has risen by an amount that in the past has generally been associated with recessions. So I think you have a broader fear right now that the U.S. is in or is entering a recession, and the Fed has been too late to respond to that. What might the Fed have missed in putting off rate cuts?

The Fed has two mandates. One is full employment and the other is price stability. And we're at one of those delicate moments where it's not necessarily clear that there is one set of actions it can take that can solve both sides of that problem. And in the end, they decided that the risk of more bad news on inflation was the risk that they thought was worse. And so they were not going to cut interest rates.

Thank you very much.

But there were other telltale signs. The number of first-time claims for unemployment insurance have been high recently. A couple of companies like McDonald's and Delta Airlines have warned investors that demand seems to be slackening. And we've seen signs for a number of months now that lower-end consumers in particular have been struggling to make payments on their credit card debts and their car loans and things like that.

All of those things sort of added up to kind of an unsettling picture of where the economy was going. Looking forward, what options does the Fed have to course correct between now and September? Since the Fed did tell us last Wednesday that they were more likely to lower rates soon than not,

In some sense, the market has already, quote, eased, unquote. You've seen long-term bond yields come down a fair bit since Wednesday, and that will already be providing some relief to the economy, such as via lower mortgage rates, which will provide a little bit of a lift to the housing market. And the Fed can further strengthen that message, perhaps by what we call open-mouth operations, which basically means Fed officials go out and they give speeches and they say, hey, we're on the case. We know what's going on. Don't worry. We're going to adjust interest rates correctly.

In the past, there have been situations when the outlook was deteriorating so rapidly that the Fed decided it did not have the luxury of waiting until its next scheduled meeting, and it acted to cut interest rates in between meetings. I don't think we're there yet. The sell-off in the market to date, it looks more like a correction of some excesses. For example, people being a little too optimistic about artificial intelligence. It doesn't look like, you know, the harbinger of a crisis like we had in 2008.

And it's still not clear that inflation has been fully pushed back towards the Fed's 2% goal. So I think it's still too early to think that the Fed has to break the glass and cut interest rates now. But as they say, watch this space. That was WSJ Chief Economics Commentator Greg Ip.

Today's turmoil in the markets has put economic uncertainty in the spotlight. And while data may show that factors like inflation are easing, your real-life economic experience might feel different. What's your view? From food to housing, healthcare to utilities, what costs that are a big part of your budget are still going up?

which aren't. And overall, how confident are you that your overall situation is going to get better? Send a voice memo to WNPOD at WSJ.com or leave a voicemail with your name and location at 212-416-4328. We might use it on the show. Coming up, more people are using cannabis daily than alcohol, putting more drivers using the drug behind the wheel and more people on the road at risk. That's after the break.

We could all use more time. Amazon Business offers smart business buying solutions so you can spend more time growing your business and less time doing the admin. I can see why they call it smart. Learn more at AmazonBusiness.com. In corporate news, Alphabet's Google lost its federal antitrust case, with a judge ruling that it engaged in illegal practices to preserve its search engine and text advertising monopolies.

The outcome is a major antitrust victory for the Justice Department in its effort to rein in the tech giants of Silicon Valley. A Google spokesperson didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. In overseas news, the Middle East braced for another round of violence today amid warnings of an Iranian attack on Israel.

On a call with a group of seven foreign ministers yesterday, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Iran could attack Israel within 24 to 48 hours. That's according to two diplomats briefed on the call. U.S. officials and their international partners have been working to try and contain tensions in the Middle East, following last week's assassinations of Hamas's political leader and a senior leader of Hezbollah.

More people are using cannabis daily than alcohol, putting more drivers using the drug behind the wheel and placing people on the road at risk. A 2023 study in the International Journal of Drug Policy found that the legalization of marijuana likely accounts for an additional 1,400 traffic fatalities in the U.S. each year.

But it's difficult to determine whether a driver has used the drug because the psychoactive component that makes people high, THC, isn't as easy to detect as alcohol. And that's leaving law enforcement scrambling to identify impaired drivers who shouldn't be on the road.

My colleague Anthony Bansi spoke with Wall Street Journal health and science reporter Julie Wernow about how cannabis impacts drivers and what law enforcement is doing about it. A lot of drivers don't actually realize that cannabis impairs your driving. But actually, there's been some pretty significant studies showing that people sometimes up to three hours after using cannabis do things like

weave around like you would if you were drunk. There's delayed reaction time. People have a sort of distorted view of

Time, time speeds up, time speeds down. Those are things that are really critical for driving. And so it actually is an impairing substance for driving. Julie, I know for alcohol they have the breathalyzer, but is there anything similar to that for testing marijuana? The short answer is no. Marijuana doesn't work the way alcohol does. And so if you were to give a blood test, for instance, like you would with alcohol, you

to find out how much THC is in a person's blood. It so quickly leaves the blood system that you wouldn't have any idea that that person actually was just starting to feel the effects of marijuana and becoming significantly impaired. What is the legal recourse for driving while impaired on marijuana?

There's differing laws in different states. Some states have a completely zero tolerance policy. Other states did actually attempt to create some kind of

number for a legal limit for THC in your blood. But scientists say that's really not based in science. What ends up really happening most of the time is that these cases get argued in court. And the word of law enforcement ends up being a big part of the case. If they can piece together that someone

was weaving or acting in some way high, that they found paraphernalia, that they found THC in their blood and sort of paint a picture that shows impairment, then they're more likely to be able to prosecute a case like that than if they only have one piece of the puzzle. That was WSJ health and science reporter Julie Wernout speaking to my colleague Anthony Bansi.

And that's What's News for this Monday afternoon. Today's show was produced by Anthony Bansi and Pierre Bien-Aimé with supervising producer Michael Cosmides. I'm Francesca Fontana for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.

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