cover of episode Patreon Preview: Episode 8.5: Lemon Truly & Manhattan: Last Round

Patreon Preview: Episode 8.5: Lemon Truly & Manhattan: Last Round

2021/2/6
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The discussion explores the discovery of high-quality vermouth and its impact on cocktails, comparing it to a supporting actor in a movie.

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I just said baby, that means drink. There it is, folks. Who's it up? I'm out of Trulies, but I'm tipsy. I had a few at the club already, so. Hell yeah. I gotta cool it. I got this good vermouth, and it's like a game changer. It's called Antica Formula. Have you heard of this shit? No. Looks nice. I don't know, dude. It's like...

Phil Hanley is a fucking... He's a real prima donna, and he's like, oh, you get the cheap vermouth? And I was like, I never knew you could get good vermouth. And now I'm like, yeah, I'll drop 35 bucks on vermouth. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, that's not bad. I mean, it lasts 10 years because you just put a splash in everything. Yeah, but I'm drinking it, dude. I'm doing like... Have you...

Oh, sorry, have you ever had a vermouth, like, alone? I don't even know what it tastes like No, you don't drink it alone It's like a Joe Pesci, it's a supporting member But you fucking, you know You don't want eight heads and a duffel bag You don't want Joe Pesci alone Occasionally, it was a bad example Because my cousin Vinny fucking rules I should have said, like, William H. Macy or some shit But, dude, it's good Yeah, Fargo

True Fargo's God damn dude Ah it's amazing The best movie But yeah But I'm just saying I don't even know what it tastes like alone I'm not saying I want to drink it It's not good It's not good But dude I mean Negroni's are the shit You have an Americano It's so nice I mean like Vermouth is a Solid supporting player Right right Yeah Manhattan's

What is it? Manhattan, isn't it? Oh, who could it be? I mean, shit, it's honestly, it's Scottie Pippen, dude There it is, that's perfect, Pippen The incredible support Yes, yes, you're here Yeah, I mean, it really is the Scottie Pippen of drinks Yeah, dude, I mean, shit Yeah, don't get me started on the last dance So good

So good, I mean, man, out of order, but it still worked And just coming together, Steve Kerr, the fist fight, the Pippen, the Rodman Steve Kerr's dad being assassinated is like the ultimate insane storyline Insane

And he is the coolest guy. I feel like Steve Kerr, like we hung out with Steve Kerr. We'd be like, that's our favorite person ever. He's just, he's so cool. And he's so funny. Have you ever heard him in interviews where he'll, he's so self deprecating. And so, and he's an incredible guy, but he doesn't act like it. He's just a great guy, but they made a comment about how would your team beat the,

they always says the 96 bulls where they beat the warriors. And he goes, well, we all know how players get worse as time goes on. That's how it works. That's how evolution works. People get worse, uh,

You know, he's like mocking himself, like basically being like, no, the warrior fucking houses, you know? Right. Right. He's, he's always really just cool and funny. I love him. Yeah. I like, he's goofy. Oh, I always see him being goofy, which I love. But do you think, cause I'm so stupid about money. Is he set for life as, as being on the bulls for that prime, those prime years? Well, he was at a long NBA career, but he also, I mean, the real money he's made is as the coach of the warriors. I mean, Oh,

Oh, I forgot. He got paid stupid money. I mean, the money he got offered as a coach. So he turned down the Knicks. So what happened was Phil Jackson was the GM of the Knicks at the time, and he played for Phil Jackson. So in my mind, I'm like, we got Steve Kerr, baby. He's coming. I knew he'd be a good coach. I knew he'd be this good, but...

Yeah. Not, but I mean, he has inherited a good team, but then, you know, we got Derek Fisher who is fucking one and done for us. He was horrible for us. But again, like we were a bad team. What are you going to do? Right. And, and, you know, he inherited this and no one knew the Warriors would be this good. Like Steph Curry and Clay Thompson were going to be good, but like no one knew this good. So he inherited this incredible team. He's got a great demeanor. It was just like a match made in heaven, you know?

Yeah, alright Was that a dig at the Knicks? I'm not fucking coaching the Knicks Or was it, I want to stay on the West Coast I don't know if he gave us serious consideration or not But like, is how I looked at it at the time It's like, we were not a hot team to coach at the time It's like, yeah, if you restore us to glory You're a legend forever But for a Bay Area The Bay Area job was less pressure Right Less pressure, better roster It's kind of like, why are you not going to just go with that?

And I think he gave Phil Jackson a dinner because it's like, you're my guy. I love you. You're like, who doesn't love Phil Jackson? But yeah, yeah, I think it was just kind of like one of those things where he's like, this is the better gig. It's tough when it's like, I'd rather be in New York, but this is the better gig.

Right, right. Yeah, you want to fix her up or you want a nice mansion, you know? And it's kind of like, I love that story though, but I love when stories, like documentaries are so great because they have the real characters, right?

Like, that's why I like Bobby Jewell Because he's the real version of the caricature And like, who's that dopey white guy? He was like a manager on the Bulls He's, you know, ill-fitting suit, bad hair, kind of chubby Oh, you're not talking about the fucking owner, Jerry Buss Was he the owner? Jerry Buss? Yeah, I think it was Jerry something No, no, that's Jerry Buss' fucking, fuck, what's his name? Bulls

I thought it was Jay You know who I'm talking about He's kind of like a weird looking guy Kind of schlubby That everyone hated Yes Not Reinsdorf Fuck

He was such a character, the perfect look, the perfect vibe. No, I know who you're talking about. Fuck, I can't believe his name escapes me. I thought it was Jerry. Well, Jerry Reinsdorf was the owner, the guy with the lips. Not him, though. The guy that everyone fucking hated on the Bulls. It was the Bulls GM in the 90s. I'll find his name. All right, all right. Jerry Krause. There it is. I knew it was Jerry. Yeah, he looks like fucking DeVito in The Penguin.

Yes, I love when the characters are like over the top But they're real They hated him, dude They fucking hated him It's weird when you have Michael Jordan And they're like Dude, they were in the trash Phil Jackson They were like, we don't give you 82-0, you're fired Yeah, that's not how you do business, dude You know what the Lakers did with Kobe? They overpaid him on his last contract Because it was like, hey, thank you for your service That's what a franchise should do

Exactly Like the comedy seller would always pay more than the other clubs And I remember I asked Noam I was like I don't know We appreciate I don't know how you do it Other clubs are paying us half of what you're paying He goes if I could pay you more I would I want the comics to be happy And my head fucking exploded I've never heard a club owner say that in my life But it makes sense Why wouldn't you want the comics to be happy You want them to kill and perform better And do good work

Yeah, it's almost like you keep the players down and it's like that mentality where you keep them down and you're like, well, they'll be grateful. It's like, no, they're fucking pissed because they know they're the bulls. They know they're the shit. You think you think negging Michael Jordan is going to work?

Exactly I'm better than you at basketball I was like shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up He's MJ They've got Pippen They've got It was funny Because they had that guy Tony Kukoc You know From Yugoslavia I think And uh

They gave him some shit Well they hated him because he was Jerry Krause's boy So they fucked with him But Kukos was just a good guy He's just a good dude Who was like, yeah I fucking want to be part of the family here But Krause was like This is my golden goose So MJ and Pippen were like in the Olympic games Let's fuck his ass up And Pippen is like this lockdown defender So Pippen was like, he ain't scoring

Part of me I mean that's fucked up He's a nice guy and they're screwing him over But there's part of me that loves that ego That macho shit like you always hear about comics In the 90s like I used to go out there And open for these big hacky Headliners and fucking blow them off the water Cause this is my stage and my town I love that shit Well we did that shit when we were feature acts man Like don't you think you had that ego where you're like I'm gonna go up and I'm gonna bury this fucking hack Don't you think you had that in you?

Oh, completely, completely. I'm funnier than this guy, but he's on the sitcom or whatever the fuck. And we work on comedy and write jokes. He's just like a, I'm not going to say any names, but he was in some big movies or he was on SNL or something. So it was fun to like blow it out with a real act. And then these guys are just celebrities.

For sure, and I think that was kind of their thing It was almost like Jordan though He was the celebrity And he was the guy who was great And then they were like, we brought in an opener We're going to show more love to And Jordan's like, suck my dick, watch what I do I love that shit, dude Let's do an email Because we're getting all these great emails And we're getting like Sorry man, I could talk to you for 10 hours Are you kidding me? You got one? You want me to start?

I got one right here from Alex Tobin. Wait a minute. Alex Tobin. Do we know Alex Tobin? That's a New York comic. Okay. Redemption. The heading is Redemption one-liners that Sam hopefully won't think are cute. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, boy. Jesus Christ. Maybe you zinged him on something else. I'm not trying to zing anybody. I'm just trying to, you know. I'm not Simon Cowell, for fuck's sake.