To pay off a maxed-out credit card for a planned vacation.
Because the kids are home more due to no school.
They have monthly meetings but fail to follow through on budget plans.
He allows her to manage finances and doesn't intervene.
She has a goal to own a second home there.
He is addicted and doesn't see a need to quit.
For self-confidence after breastfeeding.
She believes it's necessary for their education.
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To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. What kind of lifestyle are you guys living? I just like made another loan, got my broke done, but it was like 14,000. Why? 14,000 for the? I was going to tell him I just- Was, but you didn't, so I don't give a was. It's not really a good feeling to have that go behind my back, you know? I think you would understand why I did it, so I didn't figure you were going to be mad. Listen, saggy, lift, all I care is their finance.
Hi, my name is Megan. I'm 34 years old. My name is Garrett. I'm 36. We live in Houston, Texas. And this is Financial Audit. Thanks for coming over to Austin, guys.
So what do we do for a living in Houston, Texas? We'll start with you. I'm a flight attendant on the weekends and I stay home with our two kids. During the weekdays. Correct. Okay. Well, okay. So very much part time, I'm assuming. Yes, but I am full time. Like mama, full time. No, flight attendant. I'm full time hours. You're getting. Okay. How many hours are you getting on those weekends? It's 72 for the month.
is what I get. Oh, okay. There are some times where she works during the week. Yeah. So how much are we making from this? Cause your payroll is practically nothing. Um, I make 50 for an hour, but I'm averaging like my months are like 50 to 70 a month. Huh? Hours? Yes. Oh, okay. Well, what hits your bank on an average month? Um,
From your pay? $3,000. Okay, well that was not reflected in this last month. We had $600. What was different? It should be more than the $600. Didn't work as much this month. Why? I mean, yeah. People not flying? I mean, no. I don't think I worked much. I don't work that much in the summer. It's kind of a choice. Isn't that when people travel? Yes, but... But that's because the kids are home more because there's no school?
How old are the kids? We have kids. Yes. How old are kids? Two and four. Two and four. Okay. Yes. Why less in the summer? I just don't think I work much in the summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? Because she likes to take off. Okay, but our spending seems to be maintained. Yes. How much do you guys think you spent in this last month? When really only his income came in. How much do you guys think you spent in this last month? Oh, $12,000.
I'd say probably around there. Pretty damn close, $11,764, but only $8,677 came in from your paycheck. So how are we maintaining the same level of spending if we're not working? I'm confused. We're just taking time off, but we're continuing the same level of spending? That doesn't make any sense. We start dipping into our emergency fund towards the end of the month. For what? To cover some purchases that pop up, a lot of...
purchases that pop up i.e what gave you that tan i.e going on vacation yeah that's an emergency we take from an emergency fund to go to islands and stuff it's an emergency no we that was planned out prior to um a lot of the last minute knickknacks or impulse spending that have emergencies that'll be pulled out of our emergency i think i brought i brought more in
like in in august we don't have it is there a secret account we don't have no i i don't know why you don't have it unless i i don't really remember why it didn't work very much but it just seems off the number seems off that's what hit that's at least what hit okay what do you do for a living so i work in the oil and gas industry oh yes it's a texan okay oh cool what do you what do you make
Right around 120. Wow, that's great. Okay, so that helps sustaining. We live in Houston, definitely energy town. Okay, what is your position? I'm kind of a drilling fluids specialist tech. I work in-house for one of the major offshore companies. So you get down and dirty? I did for, I worked offshore for 10 years. Yeah. And since we had kids, moved back, working in the office now. Okay, how long have you guys been married?
We just celebrated six years. Oh, very nice. Okay. So a little different than most married couples on the show. One, you've been married a little longer. A lot of people are kind of newlyweds on the show. And two, your guys' kids were within your marriage, which is maybe the first time that's ever happened on this show. Not that either way is bad or good. I don't give a ****. But it's interesting. It shows that, you know, maybe you are a bit more planned.
And the weird thing here is there is retirement here. That's the weird thing. But then there is so much that does not correlate with a couple that plans, especially if we're taking for an emergency fund for knickknacks. And one of you has a secret that the other doesn't know. And I don't know what the secret is or who has it. But one of you wants to tell it. And what is it? Who has the secret? Who's the little secretor?
You're the secret or? Yeah. What's your little secret? I mean, it's, I just like pulled from, made like, made another loan to cover a credit card so we could go on our trip. Oh my. Okay. Okay. And I didn't tell him. Wait, why doesn't he get to know that? Why are we doing that without his knowledge? Oh. He thought you were pulling from an emergency fund. Not that that's even better, but.
actually no you said the trip was p planned i was gonna tell him i just was but you didn't so i don't give a was you didn't oh no i didn't tell him huh i yeah i didn't tell him why because i mean i was going to but you didn't didn't want him to stress about our trip but now you're stressing about the trip even though the trip is already done because you've borrowed on it now you have to pay it off you borrow you open it you took out a loan what kind of loan
Uplift? Okay. No, no, yeah. No, Upstart was the loan I took for the card. Upstart, yeah. I took that out to pay off a credit card that was maxed out so that we could have spending on the card. Oh my f***. That has nothing to do with the vacation. Well, then what are you talking about? Because that just contradicted your whole thing. I'm confused too. What are you saying? So, yeah, we did finance the vacation that we just took.
From what? On what? It's like the pre-planned, like a firm, like one of those. It's called Uplift. So Uplift and Upstart. You took a loan to pay off a credit card. Yeah, they're both two. I have both loans, an Upstart and Uplift. And which one did you know about? And which one did you not? Or neither? Why? Why? When? When did you do this? The last week of the month before our trip. What month? September. Okay. Okay.
The last week of September, you did this. Yes. I got a loan out and paid off a credit card that was maxed out. Yeah, but why? Because that just got my name too on it? Or is it just yours? No, it's just mine. Because it affects us both and that is not really a good feeling to have that go behind my back, you know? Yeah. But... I didn't think you... I think you would understand why I did it, so I didn't figure you were going to be mad. Understand why you did it?
You did it for the vacation. Correct. And are you mad? Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed. That's kind of a big thing. I thought we were low on funds during the month because we were taking out to pay for a trip instead of... How long do you guys go on these trips? Or how often do you guys go on these trips? Like twice a year. Can you afford that? I mean, obviously not if we're taking out...
Debt to pay off a card and then another debt to pay for this trip that we can't pay for. And then you think taking out for an emergency fund for knickknacks. Obviously not. So why are we doing these trips when we just we have young kids, right?
Shouldn't we be getting f***ing care of and buttoned up for the sake of their future instead of going and seeing some palm trees? It was for my birthday and my son's because our birthday's together. Happy birthday. You have one every year. I don't give a f***. So does he.
What? Probably not. Probably not? I don't regret it. I don't regret the trip. Probably not. Are you saying you're dying? Terminal? What are you terminal with? Brain cancer? Is that why you're taking out these lungs? I was agreeing with you that my son probably didn't care about the trip for our birthday. Well, no shit. The four-year-old barely passed the age where he's going to start remembering things. Other than that, the two-year-old has no idea what the fuck is going on. It's basically just a group of cells floating around in the universe. Can't form memories.
Well, we have pictures from it. Well, that's good. As long as they don't go blind, they'll be able to know they went to a place with palm trees. It seems to be every year we've got a birthday trip. They're all in October. What, do you not agree with these?
So why are we doing them? Wait, what are we doing then? Why are you playing it? I don't agree. He just goes on them. He doesn't. I don't agree with a lot of them. Why are we doing them? And she, we just do it. Cause I like to travel. Cool. But if he disagrees, why are we just, why do you win? Win, win, win, win, win. Maybe because I'm controlling. I don't know.
He just does whatever. Like if I, Hey, I have a trip. He just packs his bag and he's like, okay, where we're going. Like when we get to the airport, like he doesn't know anything about the travel or the expenses. He just, you're saying you don't like that.
I don't prefer. I'd like to be at least consulted like, hey, let's take a trip. Okay. Do you guys have conversations about this or is this the first time? Like what are we doing? We've had this conversation multiple times. Why has nothing ever been addressed then? I feel like I could be sitting on that side with you talking to her about a lot of these financial issues. I'm not the only problem. I'm a huge problem, but I'm saying I'm not the only problem. I've never said I wasn't any problem.
But I'm also, when we say pulling out of the emergency fund for things, I'm not the one that's pulling out for things. She's the one normally pulling out the emergency fund. I mean, I do have a spending problem. I know I do. I know I'm out of control with spending. I'm confused. We talked about, before we started filming, you found this show through...
camel you found george through dave you've been through a live event with dave
you know he'd be against all of this dramatically. You've been on that path of relative being surrounded by the knowledge of how to not be a dump of money, and yet we are in... Still doing it. So, like, what? You obviously just don't care. Vacation's more important than any financial stability or any fixing or any change of behavior, right? It has to be. It's got to be yes, because this is...
A daily watching financial videos and doing all this. I watch without any action. I'm confused. We might have action for half of the month and the other half is let's go do whatever we want. Get a little fire under your butt for a moment and then you're done. Yep. Why do you think it falls off? Because I impulse buy and I regret it after.
I can go to Target and spend $600 and then I can take it all home and regret all of it. Then return it. But I don't. Okay. So then I just am negative $600 for going to Target. And how much is this loan that you took out that he doesn't know? $6,000. Almost what you bring in after taxes and everything on a monthly basis. Immediately. A month has to go to that. How much was this vacation? You took out $6,000? $6,000?
No, the vacation was $4,000. What kind of lifestyle are you guys living? Champagne taste on a beer budget, it seems like. We kind of spend what we want to spend. What goals do we have for you guys, for the kids? Where are we trying to be looking five years down the road, 10 years down the road, 20 years down the road? What are we trying to do? Because right now we're just living for fun in the moment. What are we trying to do?
Do we have any combined goal? I don't think we have goals together. I want a house in Palm Beach by 40. Are you going to be able to move? No, I want a second home. No, she wants a second home, which is ridiculous. I've...
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Like 700? Is that nothing? I think we can get a loan for it by 40. Okay. Well, I'm confused. Again, you're the one that watches the financial content on repeat. Are you there just for the entertainment and you don't walk away with anything? Yes. No one would advise that, that I know of. I mean, I have a problem. I need to fix it. Oh, shut the fuck up. If you have a problem and you know you have a problem, this isn't like, it's not like you're an alcoholic here.
My spending is out of control. Absolutely. But you know this. You acknowledge this. But I don't change it. I know. And I'm asking why. Why have you done nothing? Why have you put no action behind this? I need to know. At least your own self-assessment.
I need to know as well. I mean, I've done charts, like no spinning charts on the fridge. I've put them up. I've done like ringlets of our debt, like little paper rings and hung it up like as decoration or house. I just don't follow through. You said it really well earlier. She'll have fire for a while and then it's on to the next thing, on to the next fad or on to the next thing.
let's do this or that. And for my side, it's, I look at a lot of, okay, our bills paid, are we have roof over our head? Are we fed? Are our kids safe? Are we safe? Okay. Whatever's left after that, I automatically put stuff into savings that we don't touch. But after that, I kind of, um, you put money into savings. You don't put any money into savings. Yeah.
He does not put any money into savings. Into our 401k, every paycheck. Oh, okay. I don't consider that savings. But you guys are taking loans against your retirement accounts. Yes, we have done that. We have done that before. Yeah, there's two. So it doesn't even matter if we're putting money into there, if we're just borrowing against it. Yeah, but... Why? What are we borrowing for? So we borrowed to buy our house.
That was a second one. That was the down payment. Yeah, your 401k loan was to put down for our house and they didn't even use it.
But we took out to put down for the house and they didn't even put it down for the house. They didn't even put down the $15,000 that we took out. They put down like $2,000. I don't know why. What are you talking about? The people that sold us the house. You tell them where the money goes. You tell them where this goes to. Did the rest go to closing costs? Is that what you're saying? We didn't have any closing costs. Where'd the money go? It just stayed in our account and then we paid off his truck with it. I believe.
I don't know. That was four years ago. I don't know. I don't know. I'm so lost. All right. Let's get into these finances. I want to see self-assess. Where do you guys think you are? I'm going to say three, two, one, go. On go. I want you guys to give me what you think your household financial score is. Zero being the absolute worst, 10 being the absolute best. Where do you think you are? Three, two, one, six. Four. The fuck are you?
What is this delusion? You said zero being the worst. And ten being the best. Four. How do you think you're above a solid, like, down the middle five? You guys are barring against your 401k. Your wife opened debt to pay for a vacation that you had to take for a birthday thing. So what the f*** are we at, a four or a six? Yeah, I guess it's because I know that we can turn this around and get out of debt. You can, but you're not.
Yes. And the score isn't a hope of what you could do. It's what's happening. Okay. Well, then I'll go back to a five. I at least think we're better than the average for sure. Well, we'll see. We'll see. There is retirement. But again, we're borrowing against it. That is what is going for you is the retirement. But we're kind of negating it. All right. Let's start looking at these stats. If you want your Hammer Financial score, it's free. Link in the description below. And if you guys want to be on the show, calebhammer.com slash apply.
All right. Delta Sky Miles. Great for all our vacations. All right. So on here we owe $1,230.15. The minimum monthly payment of $40. This looks like it's interest-free. Oh, I don't know about interest-free. You paid off the last balance, but you did immediately put another $2,132 on here. So what is this card? Who manages this card?
Do we even know what's happening on this card? Explain this card. She kind of manages all of our financial for the most part. I'm so confused because you're complaining about the finances, but why then are you not involved? Why is she just doing it? Why is it just put upon her? I am involved, but a lot of it is she really enjoys doing all these things and she gets so...
So caught up in all the financial stuff and... $3,000 went out more than came in last month. Yes. So I'm confused. For me, like I kind of said earlier, if making sure that our bills are paid and that our roof's overhead, that's kind of my focus. There's a late fee in these statements. Oh, there's probably a few. So if our concern is that the bills are paid and the bill wasn't paid on time... Yeah. Yeah.
Obviously, the system's not working. Correct. So we've done nothing to address it, to get more involved, to have these open, honest conversations. Sir, you like doing it. That's great. You have fun with it. Wonderful. I think as a couple, we probably need to sit down and go over our finances on a monthly basis. I agree. But why haven't you guys? That's just what I'm trying to figure out from this whole conversation is,
Okay, we seem to at least know we know what's right. But you guys haven't done anything regarding what is right. And you're not able to give me a why other than I like spending. Yeah.
I know it's ever going to get anywhere if you can't just acknowledge any potential reason, because if you don't have a reason that we can start focusing on, how are we going to address it and find a solution if we don't know why?
why haven't you been willing to get involved with the finances more? Or why haven't you been willing to allow him to be involved in the finances more? Whatever it is, why? We have done where we have monthly meetings and we'll go through all of our budget and this is what we're going to go through. But it's been a long time. But the second we get through this budget and halfway through the month, all of a sudden...
Something shiny will pop up and budget went out the window. And it's not my shiny that normally pops up. I'm not innocent by no means. Does his opinion of your shiny not matter? Yeah, it does. But the shiny just ends up being purchased and the budget's out the window. He normally lets me buy whatever I want to buy. Is this true? Yeah. Why don't you put your foot down? I mean, there needs to be accountability in this.
On both sides. I think I'm just as guilty in all this because I'm allowing it to happen. You guys just enable each other. Yeah. Before we were making good money and kind of did whatever we wanted since kids. We had way more debt before we had kids. We've paid off some of the debt kind of that's been years ago. It's been years like we've grown. We've gained more debt other sides. So but our total was a lot less before kids.
I want to know what happens at the end of the month once we've done the, okay, here's the beginning of the month. We sat down to figure out our budget. Okay, halfway through something shiny came up. We purchased it. What happens at the end of the month for the next meeting? She'll normally have to pick up work and I'll have to stay home.
to help watch kids while she goes to work. So we can pay for the conversation just becomes, how do we go and pay for the shiny? It doesn't become, what was the shiny? It wasn't worth it. And how do we prevent it from happening the next month? Because that's the conversation that matters more.
then why isn't that what you told me there's a lot of it speaking on deaf ears sometimes it's like i will tell her why do you need that why why do we do this and then what was the last shiny besides this vacation you guys just went on what was the last shiny i want to hear how this happened i mean i got botox where at the spa it's like six or eight where's the botox
What do you mean where? Where is it in your body? Oh, my forehead. Okay, so you're avoiding the permanent lines? Yes. Okay. How much was the shiny Botox? It was 600. Who cares if you get lines? Dude's already starting to get gray. No, it's not kind of. It's gray. It is a lot of gray. It's infected. But it's not just like Botox. You'll do... I think it's time to embrace. The dude's already growing old. You don't want to look like you're 20 when he's...
It's not just Botox. We'll do our... We don't do our own hair. No, he asked you... We don't make our own hair. No, stop. He asked you what was your most expensive purchase. No, no, no. Okay, so the Botox was the last shiny. Okay. That I had. Okay, okay. I'm just... I want to... Whoa, whoa, whoa. I just want to figure out the situation around that because I just want to learn kind of what your life looked like around that. Um...
One, that terrifies me, I'm afraid. Better than going bald. Yep, it's staying in, so I'm fine with it. That's true, that's fair. Okay, so Botox happened. Okay, cool. How much did it cost? It was $600. Did you just do it or did we talk about it before? No conversation before. Okay, then what happened afterwards? Because you probably told him at some point that it happened. Yeah. How'd that conversation go? She'll tell me, hey, I'm going to get this done. With no monetary...
uh, you know, signal to it and just go do it. And normally I'm like, okay, fine. It's normally like when I'm busy or I've got a lot going on, I just go, okay, cool. And then after the fact, when I look at our bank account, I go, well, what, what the hell happened? I didn't know it was this much. Why do we do that? Well, no, and I can't take it back. They can't go in there and take, you know, pull it out and give me money back. So what are you going to do? A lot of it is after the fact,
I will give her, I will not lecture, but we'll talk about why we did this and what went wrong. Well, you can normally just give me a slap on the wrist and then we just go about our spending. Who typed that? Who typed that? Jake, if you're going to be a bully, say it into a mic like a man. Why don't you come say this to them? Bring it on. Come say it.
Don't say it, Jake. Listen, this is what I'm dealing with over here, guys. This is what I'm dealing with. And I am sorry, Garrett. Garrett, I'm sorry, but I said that you aged 15 years when you took the hat off. What was the other thing? Oh, yes. What was the other thing that was said? The funny part. Oh, that was actually Lindsay. She said hat fish.
You hat-fetched us. Oh, yeah. Hey, I can leave it off and look like an old man. I hate his long hair. She always tries to get me to color my hair and stuff. Let it be. You're trying to keep them young. That's right. I try to get him to do Botox, too, and he won't do it. No, I will not ever. It's a waste of money. I'd be willing to do it in the armpits to prevent, because I sweat a lot. Same. But, again, that's... I don't know.
I'd rather spend the money on something else than... I'm just... So, after that, like, I'm just... Did we decide that, okay, maybe this is not happening again then? Sometimes that's said, and then there will be a couple of month period in between, and all of a sudden we pick back up doing things. Like, we'll do cleanses, or we need to...
redecorate this area of the house or that area of the house. We need to buy this or that. So you guys are not able to have adequate conversations that are able to hold ground and then keep each other accountable throughout. That is, I think, what is very clear here. It's like we can have a conversation and we can be like, oh, okay, that sucks. It won't happen again. But it always happens again. Yes. But you also fail to hold her accountable and you fail to hold yourself accountable because swiping is more important than...
What if we didn't have this strong income over here? What would you be doing? I guess I'd be working more. I would work more, but I have to be home with the kids. Yeah. We have no family in Houston, so it's just us. But even then, what we bring in shouldn't have to...
need family in Houston for you to work. You don't have to work at all. No, okay, so he golfs two times a month and that... Wait, he what? He golfs. He's in a golf league. Oh, okay. So like on Sundays, so it messes up with me trying to work. So I have to like not work because of his golf because we don't have anybody to watch the kids or if I can't find anybody. Is that true? We have no one to watch the kids? We'll get a babysitter or... It's hard on Sundays to find somebody. We struggle finding people to watch the kids or I'm just like...
don't want to spend the extra money to have somebody watch them so i was like well i'll just stay home but even not go to work whether he has golf whether you're working or not with my income we don't need you don't have to work at all yeah but i like to spend so we do need but that's that's the part we need to work on is the spending that's yes i agree i mean he just
what he just said was 100 right but you know this again you're in the circles i'm so confused yeah i do know it i don't know why i don't apply it it's because you prefer the spending over the over the i have a problem i know i have a problem but it's but your lack of addressing it clearly you enjoy the problem more than any benefit that'll come from applying any solution i mean you do
You prefer that answer gratification more than any. Okay, I'm going to keep going through this.
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chick-fil-a tiff's treats tiff treats not even good anymore uh chick chick-fil-a shipley's donuts some museum chick-fil-a went inside got some bs from a gas station magnolia and a lot of financed flights miami that was for our trip so yeah why can't you get a hotel in the oh where you want a second house
West Palm Beach. Is it going to be a beach house? Not on the beach. Then it doesn't matter. Get a hotel whenever you want to go then. Right? Right? Or else why? Why do you need a home there? Oh. We don't. We don't need a home there. I don't want to have another home over there. But she's adamant on having another home. Have you ever won any of these purchase conversations? I'm probably going to kick him out of the house if he wins a purchase conversation. That's...
False. That is so false. Like, no. We have these conversations and I will make a great point and I will... I could tell you that this desk is brown and there'll be a but. No, it's really green or black. What I'm trying to figure out is just... I mean, there's just no consequences. You just... You win and that's it. I mean, the consequences are now you guys have to pay off your debt and, you know...
for the kids and everything are put off. Actually, I hope my breath doesn't stink. I'm taking Paxlovid right now so I can get over this quicker. And it's making my tongue, like it automatically makes your tongue taste like absolute death. But I don't know if that translates or if it's mental. Like I don't know if it's a real taste or if it's fake. I can't smell anything up here. Well, that's good because it tastes like a battery has opened on my mouth. And it's really disgusting. And you can't get rid of it. It's so bad.
Um, okay. We kind of talked about her financial, like my financial goal, like for our future, you know, setting up for our kids and putting, being able to get them through college where we kind of, her goal is to get a house in Florida. Yeah.
Why? It's West Palm Beach. It's not Florida. But why? It's Florida. Why can't you see a hotel? And it is Florida. I mean, my dad says that. Like, the sand just eats the houses away. So that's just stupid. But yeah, I just want a house in Florida. But why? I don't know.
You don't have an answer to anything. I just have a goal. So that's my goal. Why is that the goal versus like paying for kids college? I think it's because she gets all these ideas and from watching all this content and stuff and going, well, we're budgeting. If we pay all this off,
We'll do this and that. You're not paying anything off. But we're not. And there's where she gets these ideas like, oh, so now my goal can... Instead of having short goals to get to the big one, she goes straight to the big one and forgets that, oh, we didn't meet this short goal. We didn't meet this next short goal. Who else do you watch? I want to make sure you're not watching like some...
finance person that's just like go buy my house is like okay i know you watch dave you watch george you watch this what else do you watch i watch the ice coffee house yeah house yeah they i mean they're also not in support of what you're doing so i'm confused like who else there has to be someone you're watching it's like corrupting no no you're watching everyone that does the most do it right and then
We do this. No, I've gone to the studio and I felt like so like when I went to like Nashville and watch the show live. Oh, okay. Dave's. Yeah. Yeah. I left. I felt just like disgusted with. Yeah. Well, it makes two of us. Wait, is this conversation even going to be helpful? I mean, you went there. I don't like this. That was like four years ago.
And this is where we are four years later. So yeah, obviously we can't pay off our debt. Just like I, I don't know if I have the energy for this. Like I want to figure your out, but it's like at the same time, I am running at 50%. I'll be honest. And I'm just like, you obviously don't give a shit.
One does. What do we do when 50% of the relationship cares? Are you saying that he cares? From this conversation, it's at least... You haven't at least suggested that he doesn't. He just is not... Like you said, he doesn't hold me accountable. He's not doing the... I'm not sitting there looking at all of our budget. I'm just making sure that we are...
Trying to reach some goals. What can he do to hold you accountable, though? So he'll have the conversation, right? And we're not going to have him take a baseball bat and slam your head in if you don't do it. So, like, what can he do? He's not going to kick you out. Okay. But obviously, you know. I mean, like, every day. You spent so much money on Botox. Why ruin it with a bat? I have to refix it. Freaking.
We would have to. What can he do that would actually, I mean, take cards away from you like you're a child? Like, what can we do for you? Like at a certain point, you do have to be a 30 what four year old adult. That's that. Or do we have to treat you like an infant and not have the ability to spend two hundred fourteen dollars in a single month on Chick-fil-A?
Yeah, I do like my Chick-fil-A. Apparently. Well, my kids do. More than your... Yeah, well, I would let them have a college fund. They'll like you whatever you put in front of them. Like, it doesn't have to be Chick-fil-A. Okay, I'm not the only one that spins, though. He spins on all the statements that you get that are gas station. It's all him. I do not spin anything at gas station. What are you getting at the gas station? Tobacco. Dip. Snacks. Snacks.
Always. Well, why? Why aren't you? Why haven't you upgraded to the Zen life? Not that I support that either, but at least it's not cancer causing. As far as we know. As far as we know. Okay. But we know the one you have is cancer causing. Like those. I want to be around for the kid. Yeah. Okay. Maybe we don't do cancer intentionally. That I understand. And you're good with that.
If it was just for the cancer part, but if it's the financial side of it. It is expensive. It is expensive. It's an expensive habit. Even getting more expensive. Oh, and I know it's getting more expensive. I know you want to lock in for the oil, but. I've cut back quite a bit on. What does that look like?
Going from a can and a half to two cans a day to one or one every three days now. Okay. Three to four days instead of one a day. How long has this habit been? Since I was probably 14. Oh, man. A man working in oil with his dip in his truck, living in Houston, Dixie. Yep. You're living up that stereotype. Yeah.
Where are you on the desire to quit this? Don't really have any desire to. Why? He's addicted to it. Uh-huh. But a lot of people that are addicted do have a desire to quit, even if they're not quitting. Why don't you have a desire? I mean, what about your kids? Like, they'll see you doing this. They're very impressionable. Like, they'll want to. You started at 14. What if your kids start at 14? It's not just expensive, but it's leading to higher. I mean, you could lose a part of your... One, you could get the Zen thing where you're like...
for the rest of your life, you know? Yeah. Like, looking dumb. And then, or you could just, you know, have to have gum surgery at some point because of the dip. And it's disgusting, let's be honest. Yeah. Nasty. Looks gross, smells gross. We're not on our own baseball field. And even before, no one watches that sport anyway now, so. I'd be willing to try to get stopped. I've tried before in the past, but. This is the dude you got to. I didn't get a.
before the kids but i was always like you need to stop before we have kids and so he's like okay and then we had like kissing a dude that has tobacco all up in there i mean it's the pouches so it's a little different than just like the yes true today yeah i mean it's right it does now it depends on which day i mean yeah it's bad and i need i need to quit
You're right. Okay. Will you? I will try. I will definitely. Easier said than done, I know. Oh, I know. I've tried. I've done even going offshore where I'm out there for two weeks and know that I'm going to run out. I intentionally stop. So I'll try to quit. And the second I get back home, I start it up. It's a tough thing to stop. But I will try to cut that little part of our budget spending out.
it's okay we all get together and we boof uh alcohol after each show to celebrate so we're not that much better i don't drink that much so yeah we don't i'm just spending it on tobacco yeah do i taste gross okay and then what is this so we have a six thousand dollar loan here with a 25.07 interest rate holy this is this this is six thousand is this one is this a special secret loan yes so a lot of
your loans are kind of zero percent interest but the secret loan she's taken out it's at 25.07 percent interest right not beating this in the market yeah but if you think about the card that i put the money on the interest rate we would get it's like a charge of like so this was the one that paid off the card yeah it didn't pay it off fully oh what card was it it was my royal caribbean card what royal caribbean
Do we go on debts or do we go on vacations that aren't debt funded? Because this did pay off a different vacation, essentially. I don't know. Okay, then we're not going on vacation. Year 2025 is the year without vacations. Love it. You live in the city in Texas. Sorry, but you're going to have to stay there a little longer without going anywhere else. You got the armpit. You know, you love Florida. You live in the Florida of Texas. So just without the nice beaches, but you get the humidity.
I mean, I already booked a 2025 vacation. Cancel it. Get a refund. I'm sure you selected the insurance thing. It'd be like, family death. I don't know. Trust me. Everyone in the world that applies on this show all of a sudden has a family death. They come up a lot. I'm saying that's the excuse that everyone makes. Oh, I know. I'm all for canceling these trips.
I don't want to cancel it. I know you don't want to, but we need to. Thank you. I don't want this to be 2v1. I feel bad. But come on, this is stupid. I feel like I should be sitting next to you because I have these same conversations a lot. Why do we do this? Well, hold on, Mr. Dip, man. I don't want that garbage next to me. But come on. Do I have to treat you like... Is what we have to do is treat you like an infant?
to get you like is it that you have no access to spending money anymore because I don't want to cancel the vacation that's not in the game what do for paying for our kids college where are we we put do you want to yes okay where are we then I mean we started their 25 29 plans how much but we only put we only put $25 a month that's a joke so we care about this vacation more
than our kids college you do your actions are saying you do okay you want to tell them that at 18 i cared about a vacation when you were three and five at that time more no i don't want to have to tell them that well that's what you're gonna have to tell them because it's gonna be your fault
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34 year old adult that sometimes needs to make decisions that aren't super fun yes all you gotta say is yes we're gonna cancel the thing it's not that hard I can cancel this I don't know what to do here I don't know what to do I don't have the energy for this dude
I don't have the energy for this, man. I'm at like 50% and I can't even get you to say you'll cancel a vacation. I will cancel it. I will cancel it. I don't know. What even is this debt? So I can just label it. It's upstart. Okay. I hope there's something to yell at you about because I do feel bad. But come on. What the? That's the most childish thing. And you're taking out debt without even knowing? What's the minimum monthly payment on this thing? $159,000.
Congratulations. You have $159 minimum monthly payment that you have to take care of now with your income because you only brought in a few hundred bucks.
Pottery barn card? We have a pottery barn card? I've never even heard of that. Yep. What are we doing? Better bend some great pots. Well, I went to some friends' houses. I saw their house and I was like... We redecorated. Yeah, we did. We got new coffee tables. Cash flow. You guys make money. People to come over in our house not be not decorated. Cool. No, no, no. Do it. Cash flow. You guys make money. I know. Yeah.
But why do we have to go into debt for it? We don't have to buy the most expensive thing either when we do it. Here we go. I did buy... So part of that party barn, was that... Did I get a desk from that one? No. No? I thought I got a desk from party barn. I don't know, but there was a past doofy. You eventually made it up, but there was a past doofy.
So we're not even responsible enough to pay it off and you're the one in control of the finances. I just forgot about it and it wasn't on autopay. Didn't forget to get Botox. No, I didn't forget to do that. We forgot to make a minimum monthly payment. I called them and told them, hey, I forgot to make it. You can look at my account and see that I've paid it every single... So they waived it. Okay, promotional balance...
Through essentially right now, actually, some of it just ended. Some of it ended a couple weeks ago and some of it's ending in a week from now. And so interest is going to start 32.24% interest is going to start on this. Holy. But the balance is only like $400. They paid off. Exactly. I'm confused. I'm going to.
I plan on it. But I don't think so because, again, 3,000 hours was spent more than brought in. I know, but I always make, like, I don't have missed payments on. I know I did on. I told you it was not on autopay and I forgot about it. And I was like, crap. So, yeah, I did miss the payment. But, like, my normal routine is not missing payments. What's normal? This is normal. This is the month that you live. This is normal. Yeah, I guess so. Okay. Okay. Here's Uplift. Uplift.
So not Upstart, but here's the other secret loan, right? Yeah, this is for our trip that we just took. Great. That trip is at 20% interest. Yeah, not good. Awesome. So again...
As I always say, I opened my brokerage, Moo Moo, and I'm getting in the S&P 500. You know all about it. You've watched Graham. He talks about index funds like someone addicted to them. Wonderful. You know that you're probably getting 8% to 12% a year up and down years combined on them. This is double. I mean, this is double. So it doesn't even matter.
It's like, what do we do? I just don't understand. I mean, first of all, no birthday of yours even matters until you're 59 and a half at this point. You're not getting any. No birthday is different. I'm about to join the 30 club. Nothing matters anymore. No birthday matters anymore. We're just like taking trips on our birthday. But we don't have to. We need to build memories out. We can build memories at the house. I don't think we took one last year.
Good, because you're not taking one this next year or the year after. We did not last year on your birthday, but we still took one in October on our daughter's. Oh, yeah, we did go to Disneyland. Yeah, and she does not remember it. She will not remember it. I know. No. But it's like, it's a tradition. We took our son to Disney World. But it's a tradition that we don't need to have. It's a tradition you just started. They're barely alive. They were just birds.
tradition this isn't some historic tradition tradition from the 1700s birthday last year so a first is like a milestone so it's not even a tradition it's because you wanted to do it it's not for her it's for you and that's guys i don't know if that's the way you want to do it that's fine but like we don't need to do these we need to pause until we get all this stuff done i don't know what to do here i don't know what to do here guys i feel like
And I don't even want to, I'm not even, I don't want to even necessarily just be on your side and say you're doing well because I don't know. We haven't gone through all this. But it really feels like half of us wants to at least do okay and the other half doesn't give a fuck. I do care. But no, you don't. Your actions do not indicate that whatsoever. You might have a part of you that cares, but your wanting of going to Disney as a first-time tradition outweighs it. Botox outweighs it. Chick-fil-A outweighs it.
A new home in West Palm Beach outweighs it. So it can get destroyed in a hurricane. Outweighs it. So yeah, you might care, but all the care for the fun and enjoyment, the instant gratification is what you care about more. So $3,143 is owed on here with $160 for your monthly payment, 20% interest. Okay, Apple Card, $3,000. It's mine. Oh, I'm shocked. I'm shocked to learn this. What'd you get?
I have no idea. What did we get? Because we opened that card to... She needed a new laptop. Her laptop was fried. It had been a long time. Got her a new laptop. I got a bonus. We knew it was coming. We paid off that Apple card. Yes. We paid it off. And then all of a sudden... I charged. It's got a balance again.
I don't know what I got. Are you f***ing kidding me? Open up your damn app for me then. Open up your app. I don't think I can. What? Because it's been charged maxed out since like April. Okay. So I don't know how to like go look. Open up your wallet app. It's in your wallet. Okay. Oh good f***. You don't even know how to access it? No I do. I just thought the statements. I can look back.
I have that magical ability of clicking a few buttons. Transactions. Okay. Yeah, no, let me look. Hand it over. Ah, crumble. So we are, we have upgraded from the tips treats. Yeah, that place is pretty good. Poshmark. Okay. Well, you're just, you're, I mean, you're still, I mean, LLC. That's for a conference that he's going to. Oh yeah. A Christian conference in Dallas next weekend.
Okay. You can kind of go to those for free on Sundays. I don't think we need to be spending money. There's a conference that happens. Most of those religious places. Yep. Poshmark, great. American Airlines. So, man, I was thinking Drybar, Panera Bread, H&M. Drybar. Church. So, come on. What is it? There's like the cafeteria or like the cafe. Pack of lunch.
Chick-fil-A, Chick-fil-A. You go to that cafeteria every second of your life. Olive Garden. Okay, I thought it was going to be a big purchase that got us up. Fleet Feet. European Wax Center. Got to get wax for church. Lyft, DoorDash, Papa J. Carnival, there it is. There's some $600 there. Target, $280. Yeah, we took a cruise for spring break.
And then I see the payment that likely came from the bonus all the way back in February. Yep. Gosh. And then from there, it was just a bunch of little, you know what happened immediately after that vineyards, vine $607. We went to the outlet mall and then I got a little crazy. You didn't, we didn't go to the outlet mall. You went to the outlet mall. He stayed in the car and then he's like, why are you taking so long? And then I charged like however much, $600. Yeah. But it was all on sale. Like it,
if you're going to spend something like that, call me before you do it. And I could probably talk you out of it in that moment. The thing is, I know you guys know how to like do stuff. I want you guys to go through our budgeting class together. I want you to go through our investing class together. I want you guys to go through our debt class together. So you know the best ways to get out of debt and the best ways to utilize that. I want you guys to go through that. Take the educations. You guys get them for free for being on here. But again, it's like,
Just like our audience can go through them. That's just a part of it. It's like me going through math class, you know? I get the education, but if I'm not internalizing it, if I'm not putting anything into practice, it doesn't matter, you know? If I'm just going through it to be able to take the test and ace...
It doesn't matter, you know, if I'm not learning the life skills. And that's what concerns me is you guys can talk about what is right, but you don't do anything. And that's just what concerns me here, guys. And that's why I'm almost defeated in this conversation. Yes, okay, sure, I'm not feeling great, so I'm a little low energy. Okay, great. But also, it's just like,
you guys already know what to do and you're just not doing it. And what can I do to make that different? A lot of times that is most effective on this show is people come in, they think their situation is better than it is. And I give them a wake up call and I can connect them with resources because I already know what to do. And you're just not doing it. And I can't force you guys to do it. That's something you're going to have to, something's going to have to happen, a rock bottom or who knows. That's just going to have to be like, Oh, now I care more about this than doing all the fun. Yeah.
I really think that you telling her a lot of this, because I can tell her something, and then two seconds later, someone else will tell her, and she'll say, oh, someone just told me the answer to this question when I already gave it to you. Yeah, but also, you've been following all the finance stuff. I guess I just watch it for entertainment, and I don't apply...
Guys, on care credit, we owe $8,423. What is this even for? I got my broke done. But it was like $14,000. Why? It's $14,000 for the... Yeah. Yep. Was this a requirement? Was this for you? Was it pressured? No, I just wanted to get it done in the springtime before summer. Uh-huh. Yes. So like March...
Okay. I mean, for self-confidence, sure. And again, I don't really give a f*** what you guys spend your money on if you budget it and just... But you're putting it on debt. It's just finance b****. You have finance b****. Your t***s are financed. I'm okay with telling people that. Yeah, I want you to go ahead and walk around on church on Sunday and go up to the pastor and be like, yo, these t***s, they're financed, guy. No, that's... I want you to walk around the cafeteria there and be like, finance b****.
These are financed. They're not all natural from up there. These are financed. I didn't get implants. I just did a lift after breastfeeding my kids. This lift is financed, guys. The kids brought them down. This dad brought them up. Okay. Yep. We had a conversation before. You were in full agreement of me doing this.
I'm sure he enjoys them. Either way, I was happy. I didn't care. You didn't need to do this. I didn't ask you to do this. This was your decision. Listen, Saggy, Lyft, all I care is their finance, bitch.
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Do whatever you want. Go to Brazil. Get that BBL. Do whatever. I don't care. You know? But that takes longer to cash flow it. Well, no. But now you're paying for it. You guys have spent. I mean, yeah. What the fuck am I supposed to do with that? You know that statement is incorrect in this conversation. You've watched the show. And this is why I am just borderline.
So close to just being done. I'm just so close to just being done, guys. It's like, what do I even do with that? What's the minimum payment on the Apple card? I didn't get it. $80. Okay. You have to pay this off. And the interest starts accruing a year from now. Get her back. Get a d*** on debt.
Harbor Freight. What is this for? This has man written all over it. We got a generator after the hurricane. You know what? I don't want to be on his side, but that is what that purchase makes more sense than everything we've talked about so far. Because I'm getting a generator too. My power goes out like crazy. I don't know why. It's obnoxious.
But again, also, we could have cash floated. I think we just wanted it right then. So we're like, let's just charge it and we'll just pay it off. I mean, that's why we did it. But why didn't you pay it off then? Because other things came up. And so that got the back burner. What came up? The vacation? Well, I mean, we were in a wedding. And so like other expenses. And then I flew out to L.A. to get my hair done. What the f*** are you talking about?
No one can do hair in Houston. Not really. Okay, that's bullshit. She flew her guy that she's gone seen forever that she's from Oklahoma originally moved to LA so because she's able to fly and
Dude, get connections. Just ask people. Listen, you have Nextdoor written all over you. Ask people on that app what their favorite hairdo person is. Okay, it was like I was in a wedding, so I really wanted to go out and see him and have him do my hair. So I flew out and saw him. That's an expensive hair. Yeah, it was like $700 with tip. Plus the travel. Well, no, the travel. All of it was free. Yeah, I just hopped on a flight. You flew there and back in the same day. Yeah, I flew to Burbank, and then I flew home. No food?
No. Some coffee. Hmm. Even still, that's an expensive haircut. It was color too, I think. Yeah. She only got her hair colored. So it took all day. But even then, it's a lot for hair. I splurged for a wedding that I was in. I need you to get me over the fear of flying. I recruit you on that mission.
Oh, we can do that. Because I want to travel. I want to be able to see things. Well, I mean, you're safer in an airplane than a car. That's not my fear. It's being stuck in a place I can't get out of. I don't care about being in the sky. Well, if you take enough, like, then you'll be fine. I hate the feeling of that stuff. You don't have to do, you know, some kind of medication to get over that fear. Yeah, I would like to just, yeah, be able to do it and enjoy it. What is Memorial Herman? My delivery with my first baby.
But again, everything is... We've just paid the minimum on it. Huh? We just have been paying just... But I know you guys can afford... You guys make good money. This is $1,000. $30, 44 cent a month payment. This is...
I mean, I've called them multiple times and said, hey, I want to pay in full. Can you give me 20% off? Like, can you give me a discount? And they're like, no. So then I'm like, well, they're not going to give you a discount. Well, then screw it. Either way, this is one of many things that you could, but that's not like I'm freaking. I'm not like freaking out about that, but it's okay. And then what is this $3,000 Celtic bank? Oh, a firm. It's a firm. Oh, I got a water machine.
A water machine? This stupid thing. I didn't even ask him. It's a water filter. I'm not surprised that you haven't asked him for like half his bullshit. So I just, I was kind of pressured. My dad was getting one or he's a distributor. So he like sells them. Oh, and then he was like, you need to get one right now. And I was like, well, dad, let me just wait till like, you know, end of the year, like first of the year. Dad, he got a sale out of you.
It's kind of gross. Well, no, I got a discount because they're like $6,000. So they gave it to me for like three. Yeah, and I'm sure three is closer to the real price. Okay, but that's what that is. A water system. And I love it.
Why? What? It just filters the water? No, it's like... Oh, no. It cures cancer. It's the best water you can get. What does it actually do? That's a bold statement. No, seriously. What is it? What does it do? It's just like... It's ionizer?
Yeah. So you can pick which level of alkalinity or acidic water you want. So it's like, you know, like when you drink like pH 10 water, like, you know, smart water, like different pHs. Dude, send it to a f***ing retta. I don't care. Drink it out of the hose. We didn't need that thing. Okay. And then home. What is your home worth now, guys? Do we know? 408.
Okay, so you have a great equity position. You owe $264,824 on it. Lower than 3% interest. It's incredible. So that's fantastic. There's nothing to complain about here. $2,412 a month. Bank of America card. Some purchases on here. Interest charge $167. Yeah, that's my Royal Caribbean card. Huh? Oh, f*** you. So this is the one. Wait, but it's at its limit.
Yeah, so it was maxed out. So then I got the loan, the $6,000 loan. And this is where I'm against. This is where I'm against credit consolidation for people who don't fix their behavior first. Because this is like... I know. So like, yeah. You just put it back up and then you're in more debt than you were. It just gives you the ability to not figure it out. I mean, I guess you should just give me a pacifier since I'm an infant.
Listen, I'm just, I'm just, I'm confused. Like, I actually don't know. What do we do other than take it away? Or do you change it? But you're not. So I don't know. Right? I mean, what would you say? What would your solution here be? You've tried it all, you say. You're at $6,903 on here. That's why I got the loan because the interest is like $167. I don't give a, but you brought it all the way back up again. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, great. With a $234 minimum monthly payment, $99 of purchases. Great. $167 of interest. Takes 23 years to pay off the way you're doing it. Well, actually, that's without any purchases. Affirm. Great. So we're paying for an Affirm payment on another debt. So we're affirming an Affirm. Wonderful. And then ShopFlavCity.
$1,000 in interest this year so far on here. $1,000. It's like a 1% tax from your guys' take home on a yearly basis. 1% immediately just gone just because you refuse to be responsible with money. Okay, two 401k loans. The mid one at
1,183 and then the chunky one screams fresh all over it at 15,000 did we just do that what was that for in February to pay off personal loans that I paid off credit cards with so I'm basically moving money yeah
So what would your solution be? My question is still there. What would your solution be? Because obviously... Cancel the accounts. Like I need to call my roller Caribbean card and like calling... Are you sure you wouldn't just immediately put this all on debit though? Would your spending even change? But debit's cash. Yes, but you're taking away your ability to put it on credit. Yes, that helps. Okay, but you haven't fixed your behavior again. So you'd still be spending the money. Okay, so how do I fix my behavior?
the that comes down to you that is the discipline of maybe you need to check your budget on a weekly basis and make sure you're holding yourself accountable i'm just like how do we hold you accountable though that's because what i'm figuring out there's no consequences to your actions because all you guys are disagreeing then you're lovey-dovey again and nothing ever matters not that i want you guys to fight or blow up or anything like that that's what i'm saying either um
It's just like, I don't know. You're not facing any consequences for your actions. I'm really trying to think, and my brain's not at 100 right now. Um...
I mean, closing the account, I feel like... That prevents you from spending on stuff. But then I delete apps. I delete my Instagram. I delete Amazon apps. I delete the Target app. So if you see something shiny on Instagram, we're like, oh, we need to do this or that. So pausing it does help, but we've really got to tackle the spending problem, not where it comes from. It's just spending. Savings account, basically nothing. $504 in there. $576 in this Fidelity account. What is this?
We both opened up IRAs with Fidelity. Yeah. Okay. College savings, $1,300. And then $400 for the other. This one was the great one. Is this your 401k? Probably. At $289,000? That's great, but we're borrowing against it.
How many years ago did we borrow against it? It's been a while. Well, it's for the house. It's for the house. Yeah, but then you just did another. Yeah, I did mine. The $15,000. That was on hers, I thought. That's on my retirement. Oh, this one, the $64,000? Yeah. Ugh.
Mine should be paid off. This is what sucks. Compared to a lot of people that come on this show, you guys have a halfway decent retirement. But you're f***ing up with everything else. And we're not on the same page. If we're going to pull out from our 401k. Why would you pull out though? Isn't it smarter to do the loan than. Potentially, but again, you're not changing your behavior. You're just kicking cans on their own. I would have rather you just not get it. You shouldn't have gotten in the first place. We just pay off for personal loan.
Then after you get a home in West Palm Beach, which I don't even know. What's special about West Palm Beach? Nothing. Then you're going to want to get a third home somewhere else. You don't. You're not. You guys can. You guys have money where you could have such a nice retirement. And you guys potentially could get a second home at some point. But even without a second home, you guys could actually be living really good vacation lifestyles. But you're just throwing it all away right now. Yep. On fast food and.
You eat most of the fast food. Besides the Chick-fil-A, yes, I only like to eat Chick-fil-A, but the Taco Bell, I will not eat there. That's his charges. All the other expenses that are food is yours. And I am not backing down from that. Your miscellaneous bullshit could be things like video games. It could be anything. It was $1,000 or 10% of your spending. But again, of the percent of your spending, you did spend $3,000 more than came in. Going out to eat was $1,143 or 9.7% of your spending.
0.3% savings, 0.6%. Great. I'm always wanting him to like add to savings, but I'm the only one that adds to savings. I put like $300 in our savings. Every check you guys could be doing so much more. I'm just, it's just, I don't know. Okay. Let me get some of your living expenses. I mean, this should be a relatively easy thing. The thing is, it's just changing your behavior. And I don't, I don't know. You've been trying to do that since forever. And I don't know. What's your phone bill?
$174. Do you own the phones? Yes. Gosh, you don't listen to anything that you watch. Hopefully the other version of you out there that's watching this for entertainment actually learned something and decides to fix their life this time. Car insurance. I know you guys own your cars right now, but car insurance is how much? $109. That's not bad. Gas, room, drive, drive. $200. Across both? Yep. Mortgage...
It's $2,412. And utilities altogether, how much? $250 for electric and then water is like $150. Let me get your debt minimum repayments besides the mortgage. This is insane. It's over half what you guys put towards your mortgage. You're just paying towards pacifications. $1,403. And that's not even including the 401k loans because that gets taken out before you get paid. Okay. Internet? Internet.
One 10. Jeez, what do you guys have? AT&T. We upped it, though, to have it faster and it's not faster. But they told us it would be. It is faster for wired connections, not for your Wi-Fi. Google Fiber is like 50 bucks for a gig up and down. I'm confused.
We've got fiber optic over at AT&T is what our area. So that's what we've got. Okay. Groceries. We should be able to do groceries that fluctuates on what kind of health care are we on? $800. I think you can do that. Meal plan, meal prep. Okay. TP fund. Anything else you need to survive? And this is for extra things for the kids as well. $250. Medical co-pays. Anything we need to do on a monthly basis? No.
His medicine is like $75. $75? Yeah. Okay. And Jim's? $87 a month. You're probably canceling your golf thing for a moment. I was getting a trainer for a while. It was like $50 a session. Yeah. Subscriptions, no. Do you guys have pets? No. No pets. Anything else that needs to be in your budget that I'm not taking into account yet?
We have home security. We pay that. How much? $48 a month. And then we have a boat storage. We have boat storage. Oh, good. Wait one second. Yeah. One second. How much was your water again? $150. Okay. How much was the home security? $48. Dude, how often do you use this boat?
We haven't in quite some time. We've talked about selling it. Sell it. Get rid of the storage. Oh, yeah. And we're totally fine with that. Just haven't had a chance to do it. How much do you think you could sell it for? Low end. Low end? Low end. $15,000. There you go. Sell it, please.
I don't care if you're taking a big loss out. Oh, I'm fine with selling it. We've already kind of put that out there. We're going to do it. Anything else you need to survive? No. Okay, $6,068 to survive. Minimum, I mean, if what you're saying is true, I'm going to just bring in $1,000 for you, actually. But $9,677 comes out. I mean, this is so easy. This is literally just fixing your bull. I'll even give you, I'm giving you $400 for fun.
So go ahead and throw that in. I can rarely do that. I'm giving you guys $500 for fun. Well, wait, because like in November we have like HOA for the next year. So that's like $800. Okay. HOA you have to pay all up front.
I mean, it's due January for the next year, January of 2025. So we'll get it November. It'll be like $800 you need to pay. Okay. And then like the kids have... Well, hold on. Just set that aside. $800. Okay. So we're adding $66. We could slowly save and put that aside. Yeah, $67 a month. And then dump it off in one spot. What's the kid thing? So $67 a month for the HOA. Their program's $625 a month.
Hold on. 625. What are they doing? They go to Mother's Day out twice a week. It's like daycare. It's called Mother's Day out. It's a daycare twice a week.
Why? You're at home. Just to have social interaction with other kids. Okay, take them to the park or just find something cheaper. There's other things. Go do it with them during the day. You're at home. We're canceling that because it just doesn't make sense now. If it was daycare so you're working and stuff, that's different. But this is just like go to programs that are cheaper. You do not need to be doing this. Correct. It's canceled.
I'm giving you $500 a month for fun that can be included for the kids. Taking the kids doing things, okay? Okay. And having social interaction. And, you know, maybe a, I guess a t-ball starting soon for one of them probably. I don't know. There you go. There's their little interaction. So with that, $9,677 minus $500 minus $6,068.
And then minus the 67 that you're saving for HOA, you have an extra $3,000 a month. Oh, no. What do we do? We spend it. Nope, not anymore. I gave you $500 for fun. I'm saying in the past we spent it. You guys are fucking kidding me. This is just so easy. And this is what concerns me is, again, it's just like, we can figure this out. It's just all about you got to keep each other accountable. Maybe do couples therapy. I mean, we do do therapy. Do therapy harder.
or find a different therapist. $49,185 of debt. How much is it? $49,185 of debt. I mean...
Barely over a year. It's a year and a quarter and you guys are debt free. It's the easiest thing that's ever been on the show. Get an emergency fund. Call it a year and a year and nine months. Be conservative. Say two years. But that's the easy. It's so easier than everyone else on this show. You guys are in so much privilege. You have no idea. Literally requires the most basic sacrifice. I'm done. This is so easy. Just do it or don't.
decide to live a great life or don't that's your choice and at that point like i don't give a this hasn't been put upon you this is your choice this is your choice you have the easiest way out of this than almost anyone that's been on the show and if you choose not to i have no sympathy because that is your choice but you guys can live an incredible life and that's up to you and i'm done
Spending a bunch of you overspend zero out of 10 debt. There's no collections or anything like that. The debt's pretty bad. Again, for your situation, numbers wise, the worst in the world. You just have to take care of it. Three out of 10 emergency fund. One out of 10 because we barely have anything started retirement. Okay. For your age, for your income. That's the thing that's going to be holding us back. What do you want to do? I'm going to give you a solid.
the 401k loans are going to go against you six out of 10, their real estate owner home, great equity position, great mortgage, a great rate. I'm going to give you an eight out of 10.
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