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To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. You're taking out of your car a little, Karen? Yeah. I needed a little extra. You know, if we went back in time and we looked at, okay, maybe things were tighter and maybe you couldn't have fully made your payments. But I don't know. Based on your spending, I don't believe that for a single second. I like also treating myself in hopes I also want to die. Hi, my name's Sierra. I'm 27. I'm based out of Austin, Texas, and this is Financial Audit.

Welcome on the show. So what do you do for a living here in Austin? I'm an accounts payable clerk. Okay, and what do we make? Like 20 an hour. So is that like what 40? 40 a year? How do you feel living on Austin and that? Not great. Yeah, Austin's kind of a higher cost of living place to live. You get 40 hours a week? Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I try to do overtime though. You get paid time off? Not yet. I'm temp. No, but really? Okay. How long have you been in this job? Uh,

About two months. Next month is my final month. Oh. Next month's your final month? Yeah. And then what? And then I'm permanent. Oh. Yeah, I've already had that conversation. Oh, okay. It's official. Yeah. Permanent at what wage? Still 20. Okay. I know. Is this what you want to be doing? I do like it. I like it a lot, actually. 20 is not absolutely horrific or anything. It definitely depends on the household situation, depends on debt, depends on the place you're living in.

Um, okay. Now, what do you think came in through payroll in this last month? Oof. Uh, not much because I was... That's not a number. Oh, okay. Um, so I'm going to say $3,000 maybe? Maybe a little less. $2,000? $2,600, I'm going to say. $2,235. Oh. Does that sound normal? Yeah, that kind of sounds about normal. Now, there is an ACH deposit of $602 in. Where'd that come from? Um...

I think it was from my 401k. Yeah. Sorry. What from your 401k? You're taking out of your 401k? Yeah. What? I needed a little extra. That is the last thing I would be smiling about in this entire world, my dude. Yeah. You're taking from your 401k? It's not my first time. In the best decade of your... It's not the first time. I'm sorry, Caleb. Don't be sorry to me. This isn't about me. I don't... Who gives a f*** about me? This is your literal retirement. It...

How much have you withdrawn from your 401k total? So within the past year, maybe like 3k. Half of it was to pay for my car. But you have a 10% withdrawal. And over this last year, I mean, when you started contributing in general, other than these last couple of weeks, the market has been up, up, up, meaning you are paying capital gains, sometimes short-term capital gains on some of these. Yeah. So you're just getting... Yeah, I know. I've f***ed myself a little. And...

This is the best decade of your life for compound growth setting yourself up for retirement. Me. How much did you withdraw? $5,000? No, $3,000. Okay. So I'm going to open up Moo Moo. It's where I invest my money. It's a brokerage I use personally. I'm going to put that $3,000 in the S&P 500 for the next, me, 43 years. No, 32 years. To 60 years.

Nine and a half, uh, 59 and a half when you can, to 59 and a half when you can withdraw that money penalty free. Okay. That $3,000 was worth $72,628. And what'd you take it out for? Uh, so it was to put a down payment on my car cause I didn't get the insurance money from the hail storm. Insurance money from the hail? So, okay. So hail f***ed it? Hail f***ed my first car. And it made it undriveable? Uh,

It didn't make it undriveable. What am I getting into right now? Okay, so what? What did the hail do? It damaged every single panel of my car, of my Nissan Altima.

And it also... The snake number one, Nissan Altima. Yeah, I hated it. Okay. It had a sunroof too, so it blew it in. Okay, so you would have had to replace glass. Yeah, yeah. But other than that, it was just denting things? Yeah. But nothing internal got messed up? It was already kind of a f***ed up car. How? Like, it was running rough. Like, really rough. How? I don't know. It just sounded rough. I'm sorry. Don't apologize to me! Okay. This isn't about me. Okay. Okay.

But you didn't take it to a mechanic and have a mechanic say that, well, this car is rough. No. I'm going to fuck that guy. Okay. If it helps, I also want to die. Just jokes. I promise. I promise. So you put a down payment on a new car? Yeah. I've seen this car loan. This car loan is not good. No. So now you're taking... So that ACH inside bringing in was from your 401k. Are you still taking more? Well, what's your 401k at now? Like 300. Yeah.

So literally you've drained it down to like one more withdrawal possible. And then that's like it. Yeah. Then what? And then what was your plan after that? Well, I was going to start contributing once I get like the permanent position because they offer 401k. Yeah. But what changes? You're making the same amount of hours, same amount of pay. So what the was going to be different? I guess I was going to try to also get a second job.

Why aren't you getting a second job today? I actually have an interview tomorrow. For what? For a barista position at Starbucks. Great. Absolutely wonderful. Fantastic. Yeah. Okay. So you think it's an income problem? It is. I think it's an income problem because when I did get my car, I was making a little bit more. Why are you making less today? Because I left due to health reasons. What? Like I was...

I have an autoimmune disorder and yeah, and it's really, really bad. And it started really affecting my health and it was a physically draining job. And you're about to be able to work two jobs now? I can, I can do one of my jobs. I just pretty much sit at a desk all day. The other job would give me. What was the other job? My, my previous job was I was a production associate at, um, down the road or in Tesla, Tesla. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, so you just couldn't be on your feet, couldn't be doing all the manual labor? Yeah, it was a lot over time because I developed my autoimmune while I was working. What are the symptoms? Like I get really fatigued, like standing long hours. Has this been clinically diagnosed? Yes. Okay, unlike your mechanic thing that you didn't do, I can actually listen to this one. Yes, yeah, and I was under body and the cars were above us, so a lot of the times I had to keep my arms up majority of the time and I would get really...

like nauseous i'd get fatigued and i'd feel okay so you went and found a job that worked for you yeah now starbucks is going to be very much on the feet not as manual as yeah obviously car manufacturing i used to work at starbucks yeah but you've developed the autoimmune disease yeah yeah um so you didn't have that no or at least is extremely when you initially worked at starbucks yeah so what's different now um

Well, I would be only working like a few hours a week, like maybe like four days a week. Okay. So you think income is your biggest problem? Yeah. And also, no. Well, it's my spending. It's my spending. Oh, how much did you spend in this most recent month? Oh, I'm going to guess probably $2,000. Is that right? $3,800. $3,000? How do you even not know this? How do people not know this? This will forever blow my mind. Forever blow my mind.

Because you have decided in your life right now that income is your problem. You've decided that. In order to decide that, if I were to go decide that income is my problem because I can't keep up with expenses, I would know what my expenses are. Yeah. But you don't even know what went out this last month. I don't. So how in the world are you able to determine that it is an income problem and not a spending problem? I guess I can't. I didn't.

So what is this going to solve? This Starbucks isn't going to catch up to that. It's not going to double your income. No, but I've realized that I have a problem and there's going to be a solution. Like I'm going to go to therapy because that's offered also through my current employer. Okay. So you've realized there's a problem. Yeah. Why am I not seeing anything addressed in these statements then? Because...

I only recently accepted. Everyone only decides they have a problem about two hours before they come on the show. That wasn't true. It was like maybe like two weeks ago. Okay. Nuh-uh. Not in your statements. So what's going to change from this conversation? I'm going to get the resources and I have more drive and energy.

The resources. What resources? The ones that we give? I guess. Well, yeah. We give you the budgeting program and the investing program, which are bundled at a lower price right now. And I definitely support that. But that's educational tools. Those are tools. It's your actions still that are required. It's not a magic pill. I'm not a magic pill. This conversation is not a magic pill. Sure. You still have to go in. You got to put in the action. Got to stick to the discipline. Got to build your budget. Got to manage your budget. Got to look at your budget on a monthly basis. Got to see what you're adapting in the next month in order to continue to improve it and

And stick to it. A class is not a magic pill. No, no. Just like getting education. You can go and sit in a class. If you don't participate, if you don't take the quizzes, if you don't actually put in the actions after it, it's nothing. I understand that. Yeah. And I'm not saying it's a magic pill or like a Band-Aid over a bullet wound, but I'm pretty much...

It also just gives me like an insight and I do need the tough love approach for sure. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get that. So do I. That's what works for me. Yeah. I don't know why people out there get upset by it. Like, don't come on the show. I mean, thank you for being here because you know what works for you. Yeah. But also don't come on the show if it doesn't work for you instead of trying to be offended on other people's behalf like a weird mother. People are weird. But if you do want to come on the show, CalebHammer.com slash apply. It's a good place. Check it out. Highly recommend it.

All right. Where do you think you are on your financial skills? Zero being the worst, ten being the best. I'm going to say zero. I did take the financial score and I got zero. That makes sense. If you want that score, it's in the description as well. But I do have the house. So I have a house. You own a home? Kind of. It's rent to own. But I'm not really living there. What? What the fuck?

Okay, we were about to go into your finances. What the f*** are you talking about? Okay. First. Because now, what the f***? How do you not live in a house that you own? So I had a partner back where I moved from. So Corpus. Okay. And we were like engaged. Like engaged? Okay. We were engaged. Wow. Yeah. And I didn't want to stay in Corpus anymore. So it's one of the reasons why I moved to Austin. And we broke up amicably.

Okay. Why did you guys break up? Going from engaged to break up, that's pretty big. It is. I wanted to do something more. And in Corpus, you really... To move? Yeah, I wanted to move. So you had to break up to move. Yeah. He wasn't willing to leave Corpus. No, because he has a job that he likes there, but I didn't want to stay there anymore. The job overcame a marriage? Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. Okay. And also we weren't in the best financial situation either. So yeah, still. Yeah. Um, and I'm just kind of tired of living like that. So that's why I want to fix this. So how does this mean you own it? So you, did you guys buy a home together? Yes. Sorry. We've started renting like one of those trailer homes, which isn't the best investment either. Um,

Wait, renting? Yeah, it was rent. You were renting a trailer park? Yes, a trailer home, yeah. In a trailer park? Yeah, so not even on our own property or anything. So you rent the unit and then you also rented the land or was it all baked into one? Kind of. There was two payments that we had to make and one was significantly smaller, which was a lot rent, so yeah. You're renting, but you didn't own it. No, but we're buying the... Technically, we are buying the...

The house itself. Does that make sense? House? You mean the trailer? Yeah, the trailer itself. No, it doesn't. You guys are... Instead of renting, you're now borrowing? Yeah. So you're going to take out a loan to get it? Yes. We're renting to own. I don't know the... Oh, rent to own. Yeah, that's... Okay. Yeah. I tried to get out of it. I did. I tried to get my name out of it, but... But? So it's pretty crazy. He's not willing to, like, whatever... Hey, Fidelity. Hey.

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What kind of refinancing there would be to get you off of it and him permanently on it? Well, I don't think he has the greatest credit either. So I don't think the... Rent to own. Yeah. What's the... Okay, what's the terms of this? Like 30 years. Because I don't have the debt for this. Yeah. 30 years. So it's like a mortgage. It is. Yeah. I'm trying to get my name taken off of it. What's the rent? The rent is like $1,200. No, it's not. It is. Is this...

Even decent? It was. Yeah. No, it is. It was. It is. That's not cheap. Yeah. That's not cheap. It's not. For 30 years baked in. And it's in corpus. Is it interest? I do. Or is that baked in? I think it's baked in. I'm not exactly sure, though, because I don't have the statements. I asked for it. Yeah, why didn't you get statements? I asked for it, but he's not able to get them to me.

Why? He's working like a double today. So he's not... You only tried today? We've been in conversation for a while to get you on the show. I didn't know until like... That you were renting to own? Yeah, I thought he... Okay, so we tried to take my name off this... What the f*** is happening, dude? Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, so... I'm waiting. So basically, I tried getting him to... Okay, so...

I don't want to give too much information about him because he's not in my life really that much. Sure. That's fine. So I tried asking him if he could get me the documents over the weekend. Yeah. Because I only found out about this like recently because we originally were supposed to get my name taken off of the contract. Sure. But when I asked, the original landlady had passed away. Okay. And I thought he was going to go ahead and get with the new landlady.

So we can start this whole process of getting my name taken off. Why hasn't he? I don't know. Tell him to grow a pair. Man up a little. Put in a little bit of effort. I will let him. Well, how is your guys' relationship? We're friends. We're friends. Okay. How long have you been pushing to get off? Eight months. Oh, okay. He needs to become a big boy. Yeah.

Is it rent to own through the owner or is it rent to own through a third party? It's through the trailer park. So I guess the owner. Wow. Yeah. This is wild. Yeah. Are you guys able to sell your rent to own to someone else? I don't think he wants to because that's his property. He wants to stay there. Not even. He doesn't even own the land. He owns four cheap walls. Yeah. What was the price of this?

30 something? 30,000? Yeah. That's why I want to get off. Yeah. I don't want to be on it anymore. Just because I... Do I even need to tell you? You don't... You can. Just say it. Because I know it's already a situation. You guys are going to spend... Again, I don't have it here. I do not have the terms here. But according to everything you've told me, it's going to cost you $432,000? That's crazy. Yeah.

According to everything you told me, unless the rental goes down, does the rent go down over the course? I do believe so. Okay, well, that changes it. Because right now, I mean, you're paying half the value of it in rent a year. Well, I'm not paying for it. Like, none of my money goes towards that house. But what happens if he misses the payment? You're on it, aren't you? Yes. Okay, that'll f*** you. Yeah, it'll...

You know for a fact that it's 30 years. I don't. Okay. Well, you don't know anything about this. I don't because I was trying to get the lease and it's been over five years since I've been on this. Because, I mean, that is completely different. Yeah. It is completely different in terms of, okay, pay monthly rent, additional amount that goes, building a down payment for the home potentially. Yeah.

well they just accumulate equity over time monthly rent to own agreement is usually higher than the standard rent due to the additional payment you have maintenance responsibilities option fee at the start of the agreement the tenant usually pays an upfront fee known as the option fee which is between one to seven percent of the purchase price and it was only thirty thousand dollars it's a trailer milked you i know that's why i was so surprised when i heard twelve hundred dollars a month yeah it's a three-bedroom two-bath

Wow, living in luxury. There's nothing wrong with living in that at all. No. But doing this to do so is like the worst thing we could ever do. Yeah. According to everything you've told me. Wow.

Okay, the typical is one to five years. I don't know. I honestly couldn't tell you. Why'd you give me 30? Because that would have been insane. Because I think it was like a ridiculous... Can I get him on the phone? I can try, but I think he's at work right now. You want to just send him a text real quick? Yeah.

Cause even if it's the five years, it's $72,000 for a $30,000 thing. So I just want more information on this because I know you're not paying it right now. Right. Is that what you said? That's correct. Okay. But if he doesn't, for whatever reason that falls on me. Yeah. And I don't want that to fall on me. Death even. Yeah. You know, something even extreme like that. I just have to turn on my phone. Okay. Now you can text them. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Crazy. Um,

And that's kind of one of the reasons I wanted to make sure. So what happens when the term is done? He just wants to keep it forever? Yeah. Something that's going down in value on land he doesn't even own? How does that make sense? And that means you just can't, like you're on the deed of this? Yeah. I want to give you free money right now. I partnered with different resources that will literally give you hundreds of dollars the moment.

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In the trailer park, I guess. It would be like $10,000 to $20,000 to move. I think that's the average amount to move a trailer home. We've looked into it when we were engaged. Okay. Let's get into these statements. And we'll see if we can get in touch with him so I can learn more about that because that's sanity. Can I go ahead and text him? Yes. Okay.

You have a Capital One Walmart card. I do. Balance on here, $737.41. Not the most insane credit card balance, but I know higher cost of the living, state, and obviously you spend double what you make. Minimum fee payment, $263. That doesn't make sense. Interest charge. Limits. You're over the limit by...

$200. How are you over the limits right now, dude? What is happening? Why aren't you at least paying your minimums? If you pay your minimums, you're not going to go over the credit card limit. You'll make a little bit of progress, even if not that much progress, but you'll make a little bit of progress. What are you doing? I lost my job. What? So I lost my job. When? Like it was, it was a temporary job. It was like a temp position. When? It was like,

Three months ago. Okay. I was out of work for a month and I was applying. Okay. I was applying like it was my full-time job. Good. I like that. Yeah. Now a few months have passed. Why have we not at least caught up on the minimum? Because they got charged off. Because I wasn't able to make payments for a while. I was only making the bare minimum to like sustain life pretty much. So are you saying this has been given to collections? It has. It has.

This has. What's your credit score now? It's not great. That's not a number. It's like low 600s, high 500s. Oh, f*** me. It's bad. It's bad. At 27. Yeah, I kind of f***ed myself tremendously. I think we have some of the credit karma in here. Well, this is insane. So you know for sure this has been given to collections, sold off to collections.

I know one of them has. I think it's the Quicksilver. I don't think it's that one. So it's not this one? So it's not even this one? No, I have a couple of credit cards. Are you waiting for this to go to collections or what's your plan here? What are we even attempting? You've made money. Not a huge amount of money, but you've made money over these past couple months. Yeah. And we haven't even attempted to catch up on it. So why? Why?

I was, I've been, I've been in a tough, a couple tough situations. Is that true? What percentage of your spending, which by the way, that spending was double what you come in, bring, actually fine. How about this? What percentage of your income, income did you spend going out to eat? Income. Income. Income. What percentage of your income? Can you tell me? Are you able to give me a little, just a little, a little hint? 35%. You say 35%.

Which, that's insane that that even came out of your mouth. But you're close. 27. How is 35 or 27 anywhere acceptable? When you have payments, you could have made three times this minimum monthly payment on your going out to eat. Going out to eat three times your catch-up minimum monthly payment. And then the normal minimum monthly payment is probably like 40 bucks. Yeah.

So what the f***? This was a choice. This was a personal choice. It was. This isn't, that's not an income thing. That's not an income thing. That's not an income thing. You spent more than a quarter of your take-home pay going out to eat. An income thing. An income thing. I have people that just freak out and they're like, wah, Caleb, incomes are just poo, poo, poo. And people can't.

just even survive. And for some people, that is true. And for those people, I give them different kind of advice. For you, you spent 25% on going out to eat. It's completely different. Yes. So what's your advice?

There's no responsibility. No, there's there. It's a discipline problem for sure. And then on top of that, why has that not been addressed? If you can recognize it, that I will never understand that you can come here and you can say, I recognize it. And that's why I'm here for help. That does not work for me. It doesn't because you have been doing this even at the time of knowing it's wrong. So why has there been no change?

Why have you not put any actions into it and waited for this exact moment? Because if I don't know a little bit of insights in how you live in your life, how are we going to create a conversation, create a plan that is actually going to work for you and get you to a good position? So why have you done nothing even though you recognize that it is bad? So it kind of ties into the reasons why I got the credit cards.

So when I first started moving, or when I moved up here, I was dating around a little bit, and I was actually making a decent income, and I wasn't worried about it. Okay. But then I met my ex. We just kind of broke up. New ex. After the ex-fiancé. Yeah. Yeah. A new ex. You just broke up, you said? We broke up two months ago. Okay. I'm sorry to hear that. It's for the better, honestly. That's what every ex says. So...

So basically he made more than I did. He made two times as much as I did, maybe three. Sure. And he constantly told me about how his ex was always asking him for Louis Vuitton bags and everything else. And I was trying not to be like a gold digger, but I wasn't making enough. How would you be a gold digger? Because...

I didn't want to like constantly like rely on them. Were you asking for Louis Vuitton bags? No, no. So how would you be a gold digger? I wanted to be able to contribute a little bit more. Sure, okay, I get that. Yeah, because I like the idea of 50-50, but our 50-50. Is that why you said, you say that's why you opened your credit cards though? Yeah, because I was like buying Christmas presents and birthday presents. Oh, fuck.

But you weren't contributing. You were just putting, if you guys had a future, which obviously now we know you didn't. No. If you did, though, you were just putting both of you deeper in a hole.

It was more myself. He didn't really. Yes. If you guys were together, though, if you were going into debt, if that partnership was to last. Yeah. You wouldn't have been contributing. You were putting the future yourselves in a worse position. Yeah. And I realize that now because even looking while I was getting all my statements and stuff, I realized the majority of this was was like spending on like food to go out to eat together because I didn't always want to make him pay or I was getting like.

Little things for us and like paying for things like I think I put ACL tickets. So you thought that if you covered things instead of him that you were just like a gold digger sugar baby? No. Why? Like he's not. But you weren't begging for things or asking for things. You're just. No, but I also didn't. Just getting a meal. I just didn't want him to like feel like he kept. I didn't want to burden him. Did he suggest in any way whatsoever that.

He thought you were taking advantage of his financial position? No, not really. Okay. I don't think so. I wasn't trying to. No, I know, but then I get the concern. It's just maybe an overreaction, especially if you have to go into debt for it. Listen, you're not a credit card person. No. I need to be as clear as possible. It doesn't matter that you're not. Your credit score is 544. Oh. It's horrendous. That is awful. It's disgusting. It's vomit. Vomit.

Use the Fizz card or a charge card like it if you're going to use cards. Okay. That's the kind of cards you can use. You cannot use a traditional credit card. You can't have access to money. You blow it up. Then you don't spend. No, you blow it up. Then you don't even put payments on it. Then interest accrues. And then you allow it to go $200 over the credit limit. The credit limit on here was $550. You're $737. You didn't make a payment. Who would have thought? And then $19.91 of interest. Man.

Minimum monthly payment is probably $40, but right now it's at $263 because you've got to catch up. Okay. Now, you mentioned why you got into the credit card. So you didn't really answer my question, and I'll be a little more specific. Why in the world, why in the entire world is you going out to eat three times more important than this minimum monthly payment mathematically? Why? There is no reason. Nope. Nope. Nope. There will be an answer. Okay. Okay.

There is still something in there whether or not you fully recognize it or not. Okay, is that what it is? So it's the want. It's the want of nice things. That's going out to eat though. It's not even nice things. Yeah, but I like restaurants. Okay. I do like food. I'm kind of a foodie. Probably not. Probably shouldn't be for a while. Well, obviously. You can't afford to be a foodie. No, but...

That's kind of how my ex and I bonded. We would go over to restaurants and then I would pay one date and then we would go on another date and then he would pay. No offense, you guys broke up. I don't think you can sustain that. Oh, no. That's not exactly what I...

want to do anymore or it's time to actually start going on those other dates and only have them pay for it because that might be the only way you're able to afford a restaurant people get triggered when i suggest that i more mean that as a joke but i don't i don't like doing that just because i don't like other people paying for food what do you mean oh like dates i just don't like people i don't like giving off that impression oh it's just a personal joke yeah no i get you i get you okay yeah i mean i always pay on the first date that's a

Just I think traditionally dudes usually pay on the first date. I don't have to. No, they don't. So I mean, OK, seven hundred thirty seven dollars. It's ridiculous. It is. It's not. Never mind. It's not the worst one. I'm sorry. Thirty two point two four percent interest rate. OK. Was it did you go to college? No, I did want to go to. I did. But like I dropped out. It was like family issues.

Okay. How many semesters did you do? I think I did two semesters.

Two semesters, I think. In what? Was that mostly gen eds? Yeah, it was mostly gen eds. Did you want to go to college? I do. I've been thinking about it. But, I mean, with the financial situation that I'm in right now, I don't think it's probably the smartest decision. Yeah, maybe. It depends on how you go about it. Because, again, mathematically, we can work out. You know, for some of these 30% interest rates, you know, maybe not. But if you could, you know, 2x your income...

via some community college and maybe a local state college, we might be able to mathematically in a way suggest that it is a better return on your investment. Sure. Now if we go from 20 to 40. Yeah. I don't know. What did you want to study? What did you want to do?

Well, I do like I was undecided for a really long time. I was thinking classic. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking tech and then I was just like probably oversaturated at this point in time. The job market's a little harder, but. But I do like what I'm doing now, which is like accounts payable. OK, so in the world of accounting. Yeah. How about this? I'll gift you an accounting certification that you can go through for course careers. OK. Go through that. Dip your toes in the water a little more that way. And then maybe you can look at the full degree if that's something you like. Yeah. Yeah. I think so.

Okay, that could be a way to boost our income. All right, let's look at that. You know if you see credit one. You know if you see credit one, you're already kind of at the bottom of the barrel finances-wise. Credit one is like the most disgusting credit card you can get, borderline. Yeah, I don't like that. I wish I never got that. Why'd you get this? Because...

I think it was actually the second one I got after the Walmart. What? This is your second credit card? Yeah. How did you even find this? In the mail, probably? Yeah. Yeah. I got... Cut up the cards that come in the mail, people. Let me tell you. Why did you accept it when it showed up? I mean, yeah, you got... But I think you got... You f***ed yourself, though. You signed up for it. You did this. And then you're also the one who didn't put a payment towards it. One! We already know how much you spent going out to...

$47 of fees, interest $17. Late fee, that was the $40. So again, and then an annual fee. You didn't get yourself.

I understand that going on, getting off work. First of all, did you apply for unemployment? Would that have counted? Yes. And? And I got like one month of it. Okay. You were only off of work for a month. Yeah. So there's no reason then we should have missed payments. Yeah. With your spending, that's why. Yeah. You know, if we went back in time and we looked at, okay, maybe things were tight, tighter, and maybe you couldn't have fully made your payments. Maybe that's the case.

But I don't know. Based on your spending, I don't believe that for a single second. You're someone that just swipes their card. Yeah, I do. I like also treating myself. I shouldn't have. You don't get sweet treats right now. You don't. I'm sorry. It's just like literally mathematically. You can. You can if you want. And then you just essentially prevent you for the rest of your life getting sweet.

them yeah because you just continue down the cycle get worse and worse maybe go through bankruptcy get into some more debt and continue going this through the cycle never get a car that you want never get a home that you want never be able to get the vacations you want the retirement you want the sweet treats you want like you can do that by continuing to around right now yeah or you can make a temporary sacrifice and actually better your life for the first time in your life

And that's what I want. That's what you want, but it's not anything what you're doing. There's no behavior in here to indicate that whatsoever. No. Want is a want is a want. I want to be skinny, but if I don't go on a diet, if I don't work out, I'm not going to get skinny. Sure, I want it. My behavior has to align with that. Go without any action is you. I have started some action, though.

Go on. So, actually, it wasn't really by... It was by choice. Okay, so I have, like, some fraud charge on my card. And I got locked out and, like, for three weeks I wasn't even able to use my debit card. Okay. Again, that was forced. That's not you doing anything. But it, like, also helped make me realize that, like, there is an issue. Okay. Yeah, so...

So I guess you only just have to wait on others to do it for you. Don't say that. I mean, that's what that is. I know, but I don't want it. I don't want it to be like that. It is like that right now. It doesn't have to be forever. No. And I'm going to call it as I see it. And that's what it is right now. That's fair. What's the $500 in your at? Oh, that was the previous balance. You're at $845.

Past due, 202. Minimum is usually 82, it looks like. I think. But your actual minimum is 200... Actually, it looks like your normal minimum is about 40. But of course, what you owe right now is 284, because you...

have been responsible no i listen you lost a job and that sucks and i sympathize with that and things emergencies can happen people don't have an emergency funds and they go into credit card debt and that's when once you get the job once you have the ability to do so you cut back on everything in order to pay it off you got unemployment for the period that you're off work and i know how much money you spend on bullshit the thing is right now it's 240 minimum monthly payments

I know you could have made $80 of payments. There's no excuse. You're just being an irresponsible child financially. Yes, I realize that now. Okay. Can I take a sip of water? Yeah, please. Hydrate. Ally is usually either savings or car, and this is a car. Okay. You have a 2024? I do. You? You?

20 bucks an hour, not making minimum monthly payments. How'd you even get qualified for a loan? They ran it like six times. Then Ally was the only one that accepted you, huh? Yes, because I originally had a loan through them for my Nissan. How much did you trade in your Nissan for? So I had to pay off 7,000 of it still. Yes, but what did you get for it? I got 11, but I had to put seven towards my...

Okay, so you rolled over $3,000 of equity. Yeah. So you actually did make money on the Nissan. Yeah. You should not have sold that. That made no sense. If they were able to take it for $11,000, it was not in that position. No. A dealership taking it for $11,000? Yeah. That's not fair.

All right. Well, that's what I got for the insurance from my insurance because of all the damages. The hail? Yeah. You said the hail didn't the insurance didn't cover. No, they did. You told me. Sorry. It was eleven thousand that they gave me from the insurance. And then that's what I. So why didn't we get a ten thousand? Well, OK, so seven thousand dollars rolled over. OK. Even still, three thousand dollars down on a ten thousand dollar car. What did you do? What's the balance on this? OK, so.

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For your income situation, that's insane.

why did you think you needed a brand new car? Well, my Nissan Altima, I already had issues with it. I don't give a fuck about the Nissan. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So the Nissan Altima had issues to begin with, and it was a used car that I got. You don't even know what the issues were. You said it was making a noise. Yes, but I didn't want to have any other maintenance issues. You think new cars don't get maintenance issues?

I bought my Jeep new and I drove my Jeep around. That battery died like once a year. Sucked. But that's cheap. It's not the biggest bill in the world. I know, but things can always happen with cars. You can get more reliable cars. You can get less reliable cars.

I'll tell you what's reliable and unreliable. You making your payments is unreliable across every debt. And apparently on this one as well, because you owe double the payment, meaning I'm assuming, Oh, and there's a late charge, $31. So we can't even pay our car bill. So yeah, keep it up for a few more months, get a repo. And then you're just even more. Okay. Cause then you don't even have your car and then they sell it at an auction and then you owe the difference between that. And they probably don't even get something good from the

auction. So then you owe money on a car you don't even have. And then you need another motor transportation because we live in a car infrastructure world. What the, what are you trying to do here? What was your thoughts? You bought this car. Okay. I didn't want maintenance. What was your plan? My plan was to stick with the job for as long as I could. Cause that's when I was getting like 23, uh,

Dollars an hour and three dollar difference. I don't does not make this car affordable. No, it really does not. It did it. It did at the time when I was making payments. And then I don't know, man, I missed one payment on it. And that was because it was during the transition period of me having an actual income. Now, mind you.

The amount of your minimum monthly payment here of $624.69, which, of course, you owe $1,280. I paid it. You did? Yes, I swear. So you're up to date on this? Yes. Okay, now you were behind on it for a month. Yeah. Now, mind you, that minimum monthly payment is the amount of money you literally spent on going out to eat. Yeah, I'm not. So that's kind of a joke.

That you would ever miss this. Yes. You could grocery budget at $250 to $300 a month with meal prepping a couple times a week using the meal plan we have in our budgeting program, tweaking to your needs. Sure. Totally. Yeah. I mean, how much did you also spend on groceries? I bet you still spent money on groceries, didn't you? I think so. There was definitely some. I bought groceries too. Barely. It was 0.7%.

Okay, so how's the car? How's the car? This lovely car that you're driving now. Is it just great? It's great, but I did get sideswiped. Hold on. Sideswiped. Great. So now the value is even less. Leaving the domain. Hmm. KBB. Kelly Blue Book doesn't even accept your VIN. I don't know why. Well, we don't 100% know what it's worth in private market. I mean, we are seeing it listed between like $25,000 to $36,000. But with your sideswipe and...

I don't know. But the thing is, even if you could sell it for $20,000, I don't know how you would borrow. Because I would want you to borrow $20,000, sell this for $20,000, use $10,000 of that to pay off the loan, and then use an additional $10,000 to get a $10,000 car. Yeah. So what I would do is save you $10,000 in debt, which is a lot for you in your situation. But I don't know how you would qualify for any kind of loan. Do you know what the interest rate on this is? It's, I think, 12%. I'm going to kill myself. What?

When did you get this? October of last year. Okay, October of last year. You saw 12%. You saw the minimum monthly payment. You saw the overall thing. You're making $23 an hour and you're like, I can afford this? Yes. That's what I was pretty much thinking was because I was like, oh, that paycheck, you know, paycheck's fine. When did the symptoms start? The symptoms? Of your autoimmune disorder. Oh, sorry, you had to specify. What other symptoms do you have? December.

Okay. I thought you meant up the car. I don't know why. I just, sorry. Gotcha. That's fine. And the term of this loan? Seven years. Dude, dude, you've just, you've really signed up to get just, you're just, you're everything right now. There is not one thing we've looked at that I can see a bright side to.

I'm sorry. This sucks. This sucks. But it's also like everything so far has literally been your choice. Yes. And I'm saying there's been nothing put upon you here. Hail. Sure. Made it to the last car. Sure. But you didn't take it to a mechanic. We don't know if anything was wrong with it even at all. It's like, OK, that was handed to you, but you didn't need a $30,000 car. No.

You didn't need a seven-year 12% interest rate. I didn't need to choose the first car I drove. And you sure as f*** didn't need to get fast food over making your minimum monthly payments. You're living the life of a child right now. Yes. To be as honest as possible. Oh my f***. These really just keep going. I see the word past due on this one as well. You owe it all.

You owe it all. The Capital One Quicksilver, $1,135.02. And that's what you owe. They want their money. How long have you been past due? Has any of the past dues existed since before you got laid off or since your temp ended? I think one of them did, and I think it might have been a quicksilver. See, at that point, that's where it wasn't you losing your job. It wasn't. It was your behavior the whole time if it was already starting before then.

Yes. So why'd you blame that? Why'd you try to play victim on that instead of taking any responsibility? For the one card. The one card didn't have... Not with your spending. No, I know. Not with your spending. Is this the one in collections? There's a couple. But what is the status of this card today? It's closed. It's charged off. It's closed? It's closed but hasn't been sold to collections.

Yes. You know for a fact. I've been getting people calling me. From Capital One? From Capital One, from Citibank. That's not, it might be internal collections. That's not in a collections agency. We're going to have to look at your credit because you just don't know. I mean, it's accruing interest. So it wouldn't have been sold to collections at that point if it's accruing interest. Then I guess it hasn't been because I'm still able to access the account. Oh, guys, she made a $5 payment.

Our entire financial situation has been saved. What was even the intent behind that? Never even... That's comedic. I don't have a reasoning for it. I'm sorry. I tried to... I think I was just paying like...

barely anything have you ever made a budget in your life what what is all that that you have written down there so this you have things written yes they're they're sorry i didn't mean to hit the table um there's like basically the amounts that i have especially for the three statements that i wasn't able to give you or two statements i wasn't able to give you i there's more there's two more two more what's what are they are they debts yes they're credit cards

I wasn't able to get the statements from them because they were sending it through paper. And I don't know why I asked them to send them through email. They were getting mad at me. And I was like, dude, what? Oh, my. There's more debt than we even know about. Yeah, they definitely did close this one. 30.49% interest. And of course, yep. 29 bucks being charged. Afterpay. Wow. We're afterpaying. Okay. We're just really collecting every debt we can possibly get. Is there a payday loan somewhere?

At least you avoided that. Is there like a debt shark loan somewhere? Someone going to like break a leg? Okay, good. Those are like the next debts to take out. To Tellicent Inc. What is this for? Tellicent Inc.? Could I see that? You're definitely right about your camera financial score. How do you not even know what it's for? How are you taking out debt if you don't know what it's for? Afterpay is not a long sitting debt. That's usually a quick turnaround. It's a...

You're going to yell at me. It's a perfume. That doesn't smell good. Yeah, I don't want to be stinky. Are you stinky without perfume? No, no, no. But I want to smell extra good, you know? Smell like what? Smell like really good. Stop. I'm actually stress sweating. Don't. I don't smell. Don't smell me. No, I don't smell good or bad. Okay. Well. I don't think. Maybe I should return it then.

Did you wear it today? I did. It's Jimmy Choo. Do you smell my cologne? No, I don't. Then we're both failing. Okay. No, I know. How much was this? Financing cologne. Financing $86. What are we doing with our life? When did you get this?

a month ago your spending is out of control your discipline's out of control this is ridiculous again this really is tendencies of a child who just got access to tens of thousands of dollars um yeah that's why i'm i'm gonna take advantage of a therapist and actually talk to them about uh that's good they could probably so i mean are you self-assessing some potential addiction issues is that what you're trying to say i don't want to like

say that I think it's more just like I didn't I'm not even going to put this debt in there because it's going to mature in about a week and I already made another payment on it so

I think there's only like... I mean, yes, the therapy is great. I encourage that for everyone. We'll put that in your budget. But again, therapy is one of those things, almost like this conversation, where people go to therapy and they fail at therapy all the time because they go there, they sit there, they do it, and they don't do any work outside of therapy. Therapy is usually something you have to put in a lot of work outside of therapy. That's a homework in your actual personal life. So again, if you go there saying, this is me making the change...

You're not going to get anywhere. You're going to need to put in the work and discipline still. Yeah, and that's kind of where I want to because I have been living. Because of my spending, it's been out of control where I've been living paycheck to paycheck and waiting for my next paycheck to hit my account. You're not, though. I'm tired. You're not living paycheck to paycheck. You're spending all your money on bull.

But I did say due to my spending. Okay. Okay. Let's not call that paycheck to paycheck, though, because that discounts people that are actually living paycheck to paycheck. You're not. I'm taking accountability and saying that because of my spending, that's the situation I put myself in. Good. And that's why I want to take the steps and do the work with therapists and working on my budget to actually get this. Well, we'll talk about the work here in a little bit. Okay.

Apparently, we've got to keep going through debt. Sorry. Text tag. Why are you going through tolls? You can't afford tolls. You don't need to go through tolls in Austin to get places. You really don't need to. It's fast. It's faster. It's faster. But you don't need to and you can't afford it. You're right. I stopped taking the tolls. I didn't take the tolls here. You didn't need to. We're not on a toll road. Nor near one. Okay, well, I haven't been taking the tolls this past week. Two weeks. Oh, this past week. Thankful. Okay. Great. Guys...

I've been dieting for a week. I'm on a successful diet. That's not how that works. No, no, no. Wait, have you not been paying your tolls? You owe $1,425 to text tag? Yes. Oh my, I just, I'm so confused. You don't make any payments. You just don't make any payments. If you owe money, you don't pay it. You just don't. I'm so confused.

make payments like i i don't know we're gonna have to do a total 180 here yeah this isn't you making a change it's a complete opposite because you literally do not make payments on anything i i'm blown away how do we owe a thousand four hundred twenty five dollars and forty cents on text tag when's the last time you've paid your tolls when i worked at tesla when was that

last year you accumulated this much in a year because i was driving from round rock like on the tolls to get to tesla oh okay that out that outer ring yeah and i would have to go like super early in the morning frontage roads frontage roads stop lights stop lights slight delay leave earlier be an adult 1425 are you on a payment plan or anything not that you would pay them anyway but um

I am going to start a payment plan. How much? I was probably going to do like $100 a month if I can. Okay. Knowing you and just how you live your life, you're going to rack up $100 a month in tolls anyway. Auto pay. Huh? Auto pay. Yeah, you'll do $100 a month in tolls. And then you're still paying off your old tolls. No, no, no. I'm not going to take tolls anymore. Mm-hmm. On God. Yeah, wait until you see the amount of time you can save in rush hour. You're going to be on that toll road.

Okay, what are these other debts? Because we're about to go into collections. So what do we have? So for my Citibank card, I don't know the interest or the, I guess, is it the APR? Sure. I don't know that. What's the balance? $1639.39. Okay.

okay minimum monthly i don't know that probably like 40 bucks okay it's traditional credit card and then your other debt and are you behind on that it's charged off it's sold to collections you know for a fact it should be on there yes okay next the next one is the amazon store card that's a great card i can't believe you ruined it yeah um 725 73 and that's also charged off

And then I see, let's just, why did you miss $121 from Progressive? Because now that's in collections. Literally, $121 could have boosted your score significantly. Like, why allow yourself to have to play catch up your entire life? Okay, so I can explain that. I can explain that. Go. I didn't know that. I thought, okay, so I originally had Progressive, right? Yeah.

With my Nissan Altima. Oh, sure. I know. Back to the Altima. And $121 was my last payment. And I thought they bundled it together with the other one that I just opened. Or like, you know, does that make sense? Why do you think that? Because the monthly payment for that month was higher than the other ones. And I was like, oh, they just added the last payment. So you're saying you just forgot to pay this? It wasn't on autopay? That one wasn't on autopay.

But my progressive is now. Yeah, I don't think you can live off auto pay. I don't think you're disciplined enough for that. Not yet. Not yet. You still can be, which is not yet. Okay. So that's why that collection. Penn Foster. What the fuck was that? That was my school. Why do you owe money to them? And why didn't you pay? Because it was one of my school loans, I guess. Through the school? Yeah, through the school. That I didn't pay because...

I honestly forgot about it. I know that was a reason, but you just you don't pay anything. You really don't. The woman who pays no bills. It could sound good. Could mean you don't have any bills. You literally just don't pay the bills that you have. You should put that on your hinge. The woman who doesn't pay her bills. Let me see your credit card because I don't see those other ones on those two pages. I had the credit card. Open up the app for me.

Okay. And start a screen recording if you can. We'll also just not include anything that isn't relevant anyway. I think I have to download it. 540. It's crazy. So you're dead. No. Those others haven't gone to collections. Okay. So. Not yet. They're closed. They are closed. They don't want you to be able to spend more money. Of course not. But, yeah, just the two things in collections is the ones that we saw. Yeah. I mean, your credit score is...

It really sucks to see. Hold on. Department of Education, the Advantage. You have student loans too? Yeah, that was the student loans that I took when

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How much is student loans? The balances are increasing, so that means you're not paying for them. I mean, you're either not paying for them like you like to do, or you're on like a deferment or income base. I think it was a deferment. I think it was like 6,000 total. You think? Yeah. I'd get on income base for that. Interest is going to accrue at some point.

Some kind of forgiveness maybe down the road after you make those payments for like, what is it, like 10, 20 years? But even still, it depends on the administration. $8,000? No, $7,000. I want to say is the max. $7,000? Mm-hmm. So I don't know, but okay. Checking account, $130. Okay, that's scary.

Got an Adobe subscription to Microsoft subscription to Starbucks. They're supposed to give you money, not you going to them. Snooze, that's expensive. You can't afford that. $18. Pop Shelf. Amazon, $50 there. $40 to Amazon. $14 to Starbucks. $9 to Barnes & Noble. We have a great library here in Austin. Maybe go to it. More Starbucks.

coffee secret level stand alamo restaurant oh is that secret level stand 20 bucks uh 40 i don't know what that is then we're now six dollars and 22 cents target never really know if that's groceries or whatever because you can get anything there ross stores amazon amazon amazon another subscription sonic drive-in amazon affirm so you're affirming as well

I didn't have a statement for that. I paid it off. Yeah, never do it again. Gotcha. You just can't. You live your life on minimum monthly payments. You just can't. Amazon, Starbucks, Target again. We don't know. Chick-fil-A, Starbucks, more Target, TikTok shop. TikTok shop! Two TikTok shops, $23.51 each.

shop you can't get anything from tiktok shop what are you getting it was stuff for my cat your cat oh whoa not really but like they don't destroy too much other than uh furniture no carpets i don't want him to scratch the carpet so i bought him a toy i know but like with cats you can usually typically get a toy and it will last for quite a while unlike a dog that will like chew through a toy immediately yeah so no more spending on that the cat food i understand pet insurance i understand that's it no well no more no more

More coffee. World Market. Ross. You go to Ross a lot. Bridgerton Tea. It was an event here in Austin. Yeah, it was $40. So you're literally not making your payments on things. Like, I don't really give a shit. It's an event. You're not making your payments. You're not getting Bridgerton Tea. I don't care. Are you kidding me? Cash mapping out 60 bucks in and out. At least get real food. Bath and Body Works. More coffee.

Better be good because you go there every day. Target. Nothing but cake. Great. Pluckers. That's expensive. Happy birthday, Grandma. Maybe your granddaughter is going to actually live a life where she's not dying under a bridge. Happy birthday. We're going to pay off debt. That kind of hurts. Yeah. No, it sucks. And it'll hurt them even more than not getting...

What? The Bundt cake? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I didn't have to. They told me I didn't have to, but I felt obligated. You could have also just made a cake. That's true. I do like baking and cooking, but I just, I haven't. Hey, whoa. I mean, like legitimately, this is so stupid. It is stupid. If you actually enjoy that, like for what it's worth. When I was budging and getting out of debt, trust me, I much prefer to eat out.

Then cook. I hate cooking. I hate doing dishes. I hate that. But guess what? When I was going on a debt, I made my sacrifice and I did it for multiple years to do it. And guess what? Now I can afford to go out to eat and I can budget it in. So I do. But you already like to cook. So just cook. It's less of a sacrifice for you than it would be for other people that hate cooking. So I'll do it again.

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Well, apparently one of them mattered more than the other one because that one was $4. The other one was $20. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That was a... Okay, never mind. I know what that is. It was a buy one, get one free. Coffee Waves, Target, another subscription, Applebee's, Hinge. Oh, she's a Hinge premium girl. Not anymore. I canceled it.

you wouldn't even have to as like the i think usually like the women on dating apps are like the product and then the men are the customer like i know it's crazy right but like it's that's how it's like built it's like a play to win yeah like as guys you have to like pay to like get the roses and be on the you know you gotta like boost yourself to actually be there for the swiping it's kind of wild um

But you're lucky enough to be in a position where I don't think because of your sex that you have to pay for hinge. Congratulations. You won that game. People finders? Who are we finding? Oh, geez. An ex? Maybe. You're from Minnesota? That was a very Minnesota. Oh, geez. No, I'm from Chicago. Oh, okay. That's close enough. Yeah. So you're going to see a couple of those subscriptions. You're fine then. You're vetting the hinge dates before you...

Actually? Yeah. You know, that's really not the worst idea. Okay, I went on a date with a guy who was married and I didn't want to deal with that again. Yeah, it's really not the worst idea. A lot of people have had bad experiences that are less than safe, so it's actually not the worst idea. I'd rather you be safe than... Yeah, I don't want to be murdered. Safe and getting out of debt a little slower versus dying. Sure. There's a serial killer in Austin. He targets men, so you're safe. Thanks, I guess. You won that game again.

those keep winning all the games you just don't win the um apparently you don't win the intelligence game either because you uh pay for snapchat and who the pays for snapchat oh i it was a you restored a streak didn't you yeah it was stupid that's a joke i shouldn't have done that oh 25 for people finders there wow how many people are you vetting it was the subscription no you know what

We're going to get more into the drama of the hinge life and the dating scene. And we'll get someone to review your profile and all that stuff. It'll be great. We'll do that in the post show because we're going to stick the finances here. We'll do the juicy stuff in the post show. Oh, God. Okay. Culinary drop for that place is $85. It was for a friend's birthday. Place isn't even good.

it's kind of crappy starbucks concession's great more adobe sweet paris i like the waffles there but you get a half waffle for like 20 bucks it's kind of crazy yeah it's just way overpriced and then macy's again you get shows you get not shows so you get to get clothes and you go out to eat every second of your life this is bull and then yeah 248 bucks in your 401k

That you're probably going to withdraw. No, I'm not. Okay. Okay. I'm just not based on your literal entire existence. So, like, I don't know. You also spent... So, $614 going out to eat, but then miscellaneous bullshit. Just stopping and swiping your card on things that are just nothing. $420. So, there you go. You could have made many more minimum payments with that. And then other large purchases, $215. The other large purchases were...

Secret Level Stand, The Code Academy, Venmoing Out Money, Cash Out Money, and Corsa? Corsa?

Coursera. Coursera, yeah. It was because I was thinking about doing a tech certification. That's why you did the Code Academy as well? Yeah. But you said you're not doing tech though. No, because I was thinking about it and then I started doing it and then I was talking to a friend and they're like, it's super oversaturated right now and you're probably not going to get a good position. It's interesting. Whether it's oversaturated or job market, it's an interesting conversation. Yeah.

There was just a lot of hiring in the pandemic when money was cheap. And there was also a lot of competition to get the best talent at different areas. Typically where the big competition is being able to negotiate pay raises and open positions in the tech market. Sure.

but for very, very highly skilled and experienced individuals in the world of AI right now. But even we're starting to see that get cut back as well. So you're right. I mean, the tech market is more competitive. It doesn't mean it's a market that you're not going to be able to make a living in for an entirety of a career. So, I mean, if that's something you're interested in, I would still pursue it if that's what you're interested in. Sounds like you like the accounting side, though. I don't know. I do like the... I didn't realize I liked the accounting side until I started working at the job I'm working on now. Okay. So, I mean, you spent...

$1,200 on bulls. Just about. Just got to cut down on that bulls? That's $1,200. That's half your income. That's 40% of your income. Cutting back. That's not cutting back. That's going crazy. That's a lot of bulls. It is. Whether or not you can go from $1,200 a month to zero is my big concern. But we're going to make you a budget and at least where you can start sticking to. Your...

Rent is what? It's $900. I'm subleasing from a friend. That's not bad. Utilities? Included. That's incredible. Internet? Also included. That's beyond incredible. Take advantage of this while you can. Yeah, this started recently. So that's also another thing that happened with the job transition is that I moved out from my ex's place. You were living with the most recent ex? Yes, we moved in. How long were you guys dating? A year and a half.

Oh, okay. I guess that the break of the engagement was longer ago than I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I was very confused. You didn't get a horrible rent-to-own with your ex either, right? No, no, no. He bought his own house. I was just living there and paying rent. You're not on the mortgage, are you? No. God, no. Okay. So you like to do that. No. Your payroll, $2,235. Mm-hmm.

I'm getting paid weekly, by the way. It doesn't really change how we're budgeting. Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to make sure. So gas, electric, utilities, renter's insurance? No. I would get it. Okay. Do you know any ones that are decent? Lemonade's good. Lemonade, okay. That's what I used. I'm going to put $10 a month there. It might be like $15. Gas, room, room, drive, drive. How much? $140.

Cool. Car insurance? $157. Okay. That's not horrendous. Your debt minimum monthly payments. Again, those other ones are not charged off, so I need to put like $40 next to them. Okay. $40. I don't know what to do for the Quicksilver because you kind of just owe the whole package right now. Yeah. So what your normal minimum monthly payments, and this isn't going to be exact because I'm having to do some guessing based on the fact that you owe a ridiculous amount just to catch up. But you're likely at...

Somewhere around $884.69, which is insane for your income. I mean, that's crazy. That's 40% of your income. And then you go and spend more than that on bullshitting out to eat. You probably have 15% of your income left. And then you still have to make a $900 rent. Like, are we really surprised you're spending double?

No, but... We're not making your payments? The rent is split up to two payments a month. But it's still $900, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't care. Okay. We're doing your month. What's your phone bill? I get it through my family. Good. Good. Do helium when you get your own for $20 a month. Okay. TP fund, anything else you need to survive. This is makeup. This is whatever. $100 a month, $300 for groceries, and...

Do you have like ongoing? Oh, okay. Yeah. Therapy. What's going to be your copay? I don't actually know yet, but I was trying to do better help. Okay. Well, they don't do insurance to them. As far as I know, you do something more like Sondermind. They connect you with therapists. Can I get that like written down somewhere? Can I write it down? Sondermind. Yeah. You don't know what your copays for specialists are on your health insurance? You haven't looked? My copay is like $30. No, for specialists. Oh, for specialists, $60. Okay.

Okay, it'll probably be something like 60. Could be more, could be less. It depends on your insurance. Okay. How many do you want to see? Weekly or bi-weekly? Probably bi-weekly. Okay. If possible. I'll put in 120 for now. We'll see. Okay. You have pet insurance for your cat. I don't. How old is your cat? He's one. 35 bucks a month. Could save you a lot of money. Yeah, because that was actually one of my questions. How much for cat food? Ooh, I'm going to say 60. Because I get wet food too. I spoil him.

I can't speak on the health of the cat. I just don't think you should have got a pet until you could afford one. Well, I don't want to take away something that might be considered necessary. I haven't had a cat in a while. He is my ESA. He's your ESA? Mm-hmm. And you're why he's going to be homeless soon. No, don't say that. Okay. That's why I want to fix this. I want you to fix it as well. Unfortunately, at this point, you're $500 below.

It wasn't an income problem. It was a spending problem. It was a spending problem, but you spent yourself into an egregious amount of debt. Yeah. And now you have no choice but to make more income. Yeah. So it's a combination now of income and spending. It wasn't an income problem. No. Your spending problem got you to the income problem. So you're right. You have to work this part-time job. You're negative $571.69. You need to literally make that much after taxes just to break even. Yeah.

It's harder to give you a debt payoff strategy without knowing exactly how much is coming in. I would shoot for a minimum bringing an extra thousand hours a month net. That's so much easier said than done. You really probably need to work 70 hours a week. Yeah. 80 hours a week even, which is unsustainable for a certain period of time. It's like a unique human who can do that ongoing because you probably need to make an extra $2,000 a month net to

And that's basically doubling your work. And especially if you get a $15 an hour job or whatever, like you're going to have to work minimum 40 at that. But the thing is, in order to just even catch up on your minimum payments, you kind of have no choice but to do that at least for a couple of months.

And even if you only then cut back to like an extra 30 hours a week, which is still insane, and you make like an extra $1,500 in that, then you only have $1,000 to put towards debt. And without getting rid of the key, and we couldn't even get the value of that, without getting rid of the key, I mean, that itself takes 30 months to pay off. And that's a horrendous interest rate. We can't keep that there. And you're just at the beginning of a seven-year thing. Then who knows what happens if your ex-fiance, you know, bails, and you all of a sudden have to start paying that. And if you don't...

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Luckily, a lot of these credit cards are at a small enough balance where if you bring in an extra $1,500 a month after you catch up on your minimum monthly payments, you can pay off all your credit cards in seven months, about. Okay. Six to seven months if you bring in an extra $1,500 a month net after catching up on your minimum monthly payments, which is going to cost also a couple thousand dollars because you're so far behind. About a thousand dollars. No, a couple thousand dollars because you have the Quicksilver. Oh.

And then it takes like six months. And then with the Kia, I would try to check the value, see what you can get for private market. Okay. But you also need a car and anything to see what you can qualify for on any kind of loan. Yeah. But if possible, what would save you an extra 10 months of work based on your hopeful income...

It's literally, again, borrowing the difference if you can sell for $20,000 and then getting $10,000 for a car. But if you can sell for more, I don't know, based on just what was going for sale there online, but you got sideswiped. I don't know. I don't know what you can get for it. It might be like $20,000 and you might have to do that little configuration. Listen, one thing that might be worth focusing on is getting that accounting certification, building up your resume the best you can,

and trying to find an accounting job, seeing if we can get closer to $25, $30 an hour. Let me look up some median statistics. Yeah, for entry-level accountants in Austin, it's $24.70 an hour. And then you'll be able to get up to $30 pretty quickly over the course of a couple years or so. And that honestly might even be... If we're able to just make minimum-ethy payments... Sorry, I'm really trying to think through this. This is a complicated puzzle of a situation.

Because the 30% interest rate on so many of those debts, the extra $5 an hour isn't going to make up for that in terms of return on our investment. So I think what you have to do, unfortunately, is aim to bring in that extra $1,500 a month, $2,000 a month by working 30 to 40 hours a week extra, which is insane. And with your health issues, I don't know if you even can.

but also at the same time getting the certification in accounting. And then once you get that, literally building resume, practicing interview skills, trying to get a 25 to $30 an hour job in the world of accounting in Austin, it's going to be more entry level, closer to the 25 switch to that when you can, and then still try to bring in that extra 1500 hours a month. But when you do that, if you're able to somehow maintain that while also cutting back to zero, which again,

Again, that is, and despite what some people say, I know is unsustainable for a long period of time. I talk about temporary sacrifice and give people stretch goals and no room here and there, but you're just not able to afford to survive right now. So it's just like you would have to cut back to zero, work 70 to 80 hours a week while getting the certification, while applying for jobs to get the better income. And it still takes three to four years to do this and get an emergency fund. So, yeah.

This is going to be a tough road ahead. This is going to be a tough road ahead. This is what you got into, though. This is what you got into. And the thing is, the reason why it's going to take so long to pay off is the Kia. Yeah. The thing is, if you didn't have the Kia, a lot of this credit card debt, though you're behind and it's kind of gross how you've been doing it, the balances are low enough that we could get out of this in a year and a half if we really grind out. Sure. So I might... Honestly, I might...

I might call a dealership today and see what you can get for a trade-in. Really? I really might. If we can get rid of this for even $25,000 and borrow $15,000, you need to see if you can qualify for $15,000, get a car, and pay off the difference. Okay. That's going to speed this up tremendously, almost by twice. Student loans, eventually, once all this debt has gone out, I'd get on a traditional 10-year payment and pay it off within that at minimum monthly payments while saving up for an emergency fund. But...

This car is going to be what's holding you back. So the quicker we can get rid of that somehow, the better. If you're able to private sale it or trade it in for $25,000, that'd be incredible. I don't know what the value is. Again, they were listed from anywhere from $25,000 to $35,000 in dealerships here. Yeah, but I don't know what you could get for it. Probably not. $35,000, obviously. No. Side swipe. Exactly. If you can get it for $25,000, I don't know. I need you to make some calls after this. There's going to be some work that needs to get in. Yeah, no, of course. And obviously the discipline side of things, but even still.

For you, the car is kind of the solution here, and it also opens up a tremendous amount of your income, $624 of it. And I will say I do regret getting the Kia because my Nissan Altima payments were $257 a month. Yeah. And you were probably decently close to paying it off. I was like 70%, 80% off. Allow this to be your learning mistake.

I was going to say for situations where it's so difficult and the income stretch is so large and the sacrifice is so long to get out of it, bankruptcy is sometimes an option. But for you, again, the car is the issue. Yeah. And you're not going to want to give that up during a bankruptcy, likely through your situation. So, again, the things that would be forgiven are even the things that are holding you back as much. So...

You need to look at getting rid of this car. Okay. But if it all of a sudden comes in and like the value of $15,000, this is going to start becoming not worth it. And you're just going to have to grind this out for like five years. And the reason you kind of have to is for your future. Yeah. Your self right now and through your early 30s, if that's the worst case and that's what you have to go down. Mm-hmm.

You just have to remind yourself that it's literally for the next five, six decades of your life. That's why you're doing it. Yeah. But it will be a suffering of a few years. It really will. Yeah. Hopefully we don't have to do that, though. No, I'm going to I'm going to make the calls as soon as I leave. And then I'm going to go ahead and meet up with. I don't know. See if I can get anything remotely close to the 25K. Yeah.

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