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Good Liars Never Surrender

2024/4/23
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This episode of I've Had It is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking. Yeah! So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Let me try it again. One, two, three. There you go. All right, Pumps, what have you had it with? What I've had it with are limp dick handshakes. When you shake someone's hand and they do the half or they do a soft squeeze, I want

A firm handshake, male or female, I don't care. If you give me the soft serve on a handshake, I immediately don't like you. Kylie, that's a record all time fast before pumps mentioned penis in an episode.

I'm just saying everybody's had that limp dick handshake. Limp dick. It was the very first words of the podcast. It's getting earlier and earlier and earlier. I can't believe she gets through the clap without saying dick. I am shocked. I mean, next thing we know, it's going to be penis, penis, penis, clap. I mean, it's just- Penis, penis, penis. Yeah. It is getting earlier and earlier. Well, I'll tell you what. If there's one thing that you have been consistent about lately-

to Kylie, me and our listener. It is your opposition to limp, small, unerect penises. And I want you to know we hear you. We understand you. And we're here as long as you need to talk about it. We are here with open ears. Thank you. I feel so heard. Maybe if you opened your legs, I wouldn't have laid. We wouldn't be talking about penises all the time.

To be fair, we were talking about handshakes. Right. I'm just saying, I believe it was Sigmund Freud who talks about the subconscious. And I'll just say that you used adjectives and colorful language to describe the handshake that, of course, is referenced to penises. I am not a psychiatrist. You just play one on a podcast. That's right. All right. Let me tell you what I've had it with.

I've had it with the American education system because it failed me in a sense that I absolutely, positively, 1 million percent do not understand centigrade nor the metric system. That is so true. When I travel abroad...

A doorman at a hotel, perhaps the front desk agent will say, oh, it's going to be a great day today. It's 26. I have no idea what that means. Is it hot or cold? Only thing I know about centigrade is zero is freezing. Wait, 32 is freezing. See, I know nothing. Zero is freezing. Anyway, they've been saying- 32 is freezing in Fahrenheit. But to my point, to my had it, I furthermore-

When it gets to the metric system, I struggle. Even though the metric system is so much easier because everything is in denominations of 10.

I struggle because I'm so American in the way that I measure the temperature and distances. I don't even really understand kilometers per hour very well. Me neither. And the rest of the world is all on this system. And then when I travel abroad, I have no idea what these temperatures mean. I was in Rome last summer and they're like, oh, it's going to be hot. It's 35. It's like, sounds pretty cold to me. You're like, okay, great.

Didn't you hear when we were young that you have to learn because it's getting ready to flip like our system? That has been the biggest myth. They've never flipped it. Never flipped it. They've never flipped that shit. And I think we heard that like in third grade and we haven't heard about it since. So I'm completely fucking clueless about what they're talking about. They've dropped the ball. They've completely dropped the ball on...

converting us over. But they also keep saying they're going to do away with daylight savings time. They haven't done that.

I am a very ill-informed person abroad when it comes to centigrade, kilometers, metric system, et cetera. I've had it with that. I agree. It's been a racket for years. For years. Furthermore, my hat, it goes deeper to Apple, that Apple the company, because when I open up my app, I wish that it would say it in both languages.

Fahrenheit and centigrade because then

I might learn something. Right. That's a great idea. I know. I know. What's his name? Tim Cook? Yeah. Get him there. I'm sure he listens to our podcast. Hey, Tim. Oh, absolutely. Could you please do a little update? Yeah. We want both. Yeah. I would like to, when I open up, if I'm in London, I would like to open it up and see what it is in Fahrenheit for the reptilian brain in me. And then when I'm in Europe, the more evolved part of my brain, I would like to go ahead and see Celsius.

Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. She's the star of the show and she looks really pretty today for all of the YouTube viewers. Kylie, how are you? I'm good. I've got a couple reviews that are really good examples that I want to set for all of our listeners. Okay. This one is five stars. Okay. And they write, name Belinda SSN, social security number.

696-69-6969. Credit card 696-969-6969-6969. And cup size Z cup. That's a five star review. I love the Linda. That's all the information we need. That's it. She's a busty woman that's into oral sex. Yeah, I love it. Right up our alley. And she understood the assignment. She did. I've got one more. Five stars.

And they write, blood type, unsure, a rare one probably. Shoe size, 8.5 women's. Special talent, can fold my tongue into a clover. I can do that. Oh my gosh, what? Yeah. That's very impressive. Yeah. I like that. Can you tie a cherry stem with your tongue? I mean, I think if I really focused, I could. Took that pickleball competitive edge into the...

Cherry stem, nodding. The situation, what that is, it's hard for me to get excited about that because you don't get your heart rate up. Right. But maybe, I don't know. I've always been impressed with people that could do that. You used to be a hot girl if you could do that. Right. Back in my day. Like we used to say, you were a good kisser if you could do that. All right. I have a story that I want to share with you all that I found interesting.

in the news that is breathtaking to say the least. We've discussed that we've had it with doomsday preppers and we've discussed that we've had it with trad wives. Right. Well, it gets worse. I have found an article about a housewife prepper.

She fled to remote Montana after 2023 Chinese spy balloon. It scared her to pieces and she reveals her doomsday essentials that everyone should have to ensure survival in an apocalypse. And she warns, it's not if.

It's when? Well, of course it is. Since making her move, the prepper has been busy readying herself for all manner of emergencies, whether caused by a natural disaster, foreign conflict, or another pandemic.

One of her most popular videos, which has been viewed more than 2 million times, she explains, when Russia and China attack the U.S., you're going to need these. Here's what she lists. Backpack, generator, and food.

Okay, what? She says, we should all be aware of what's going on and take care of our families ourselves and not rely on the government to take care of us in a disaster situation. Elaborating further, she says, everyone should be prepping. As women, we are naturally gatherers. We're the ones who go to the store and we do all the shopping. Great point. That's what she calls gathering. Yeah. Yeah.

And then they asked her, why do you think that you're a doomsday prepper? And she says, so I think it's just that I grew up with those traditional values and I'm using that in my marriage. And she also explains that she takes her, that her habits likely stem from her father who always made sure the family was ready to brace for earthquakes. So there's several things I want to unpack here. Number one, that she is,

Thinking that it's an attribute for her that she grew up with these traditional values that she uses in her marriage that lead her to the grocery store to gather. Right. She is uniquely qualified to go to the grocery store and gather because she's female. And I just have to point out for the listener, it has to be said, she's a prepper and a trad wife, but she's also an influencer. Yeah.

Okay. You can't let them off the hook on the influencer thing. Right. You cannot. I'm sure she thinks it's a public service announcement, but this kind of shit is just so breathtaking to me because they think that they're smarter than like the federal government, like natural disaster plans. Furthermore, they think that they can outsmart, I assume nuclear weapons, but

Or Chinese and Russian attacks. And furthermore, I went on this woman's page and it's just the paranoia. Yeah. That these people live with and that they think that like any minute,

China, Russia is about to take us out. Now, granted, there are real geopolitical issues where this could be real. But every single day, constantly prepping, it brings me back to one of our thesis sentences that I don't want to survive with these people. No. I want to be taken out with the first wave. Right. Take me out with the first wave. Don't spare me. Just keep on keeping on. Also, an interesting thing is that

Most of these people are rapture believers, right? Could you tell by her page if she was? I mean, I think the traditional family values just was a pretty big tell. That was a tell. But on the one hand, the rapture, it's all about you don't need any preparation just except Jesus Christ and you're up, you know, riding on a horse with wings to the pearly gates with white capitalist Jesus. And then on the other hand, you're

A lot of them are just like prepping to stay and I guess like skirt around, you know, destiny and God's will and all of these things. It's a really weird combination of people. Yeah. And it's also either you're going in the rapture or you're prepping.

Why both? What about rapture preppers? Rapture preppers. But then that would be counterintuitive. If you believe in the rapture and you're a prepper, that means you're not a true believer. I would think that these people are experts in cognitive dissonance.

Right. I.e. the prepping. Yeah. The rapture. All the things. Yeah. I think they're probably experts in cognitive dissonance. No doubt. No doubt about it. And here's what gets me about it is so many of these people, it's like, well, I'm going to protect my family. Right. And I'm going to take care of my family. And it's like, oh, the rest of us aren't.

Doing that. Right. Because I would call taking care of my family, not trafficking in conspiracy theories where we're paranoid nut jobs with assault rifles, banging everybody up all the time and bombing through the Capitol. Right. Shows. I just I don't know. There's something I don't I would have to investigate. But it seems like this paranoia is like on steroids in America. Yeah.

Yeah. You wonder if it's like, has it, this paranoia always existed and we just didn't know about it. But with the advent of social media, now it's loud and proud. Or do you think there's more of it now than there was back when we were younger before social media? I think it has all of these conspiracy theories are present.

multiplying like a virus since social media. Were there probably some people that wanted to live off the grid before? Yes. But I mean, look at what QAnon, Alex Jones, all of these hoaxes and conspiracy theories just seem to get so much traction because the information delivery system is just rapid fire. It's light speed.

And so you have it growing like a virus that even the trad wives are in on it. Even the trad wives. And they're so busy making bread. I'm shocked they could fit in the prepping. Well, and going to the store. Because that's what women do. They go to the store. They're gatherers. They're gatherers. They're gathering at the store. And I suspect her husband's out hunting for food. I just, I want it noted for the permanent record. My husband goes to the store. I don't.

I want it noted for the permanent record that I gather my groceries on my iPhone, have them delivered a lot of times by a man. So there. Yeah.

I love that. Okay. All right. So today we have one of my very favorite social media accounts, some of my very favorite comedians ever, and they are called the Good Liars. And talk about going in and taking one for the team. They do. They do. These guys go in and take it for the team all the time. And what they do is they go to Trump rallies. They were at January 6th.

They go to all of this crazy clown show of the far right American political spectrum and interview people that believe crazy shit. Right. They're 100 percent in. And they have these guys, they are candidates for interviews in an intellectual headlock in about 2.5 seconds.

So let me give you guys a little sampling of what you're in store for. Kylie, play the or Seth, play the video. It says never surrender. That's right. And that's from when he surrendered and got his mugshot taken. Yes, it is. OK, thanks for letting me know.

Would you like that job to go interview the Trumpers? Here's the deal. I don't think I have the patience for it. I think that I would get mad and start arguing the way they can deadpan it and just go in and out. It's a gift. It's a gift. Like a normal person just does not have that tolerance. It is just such great.

comedic timing. It's wonderful. And how they like improv with what they're saying. And they're so quick witted. I cannot watch their videos enough. I mean, it fascinates me that that many people are collectively that stupid and follow Donald Trump.

That like wears layers upon layers of self-tanning cream. Bad self-tanning cream. With a comb over and gives himself golf trophies for fun. Right. And that's just, that's a mild dusting of all the shit that he does. Because I just can't get into all the other stuff because it's too depressing. It is depressing. It depresses me when I'm around, like when I see that people actually believe it.

But I'm really anxious to hear their take on it. All right, let's welcome to I've Had It podcast, the good liars. Pumps, doing the podcast, our other jobs, being mothers, maintaining friendships, being

Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.

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Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.com.

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Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.com.

After I do it, I feel so much more centered, so much more grounded, and so much more functioning. Listener, if you're thinking about starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire and get matched with a licensed therapist, and you can switch therapist at any time for no additional charge.

Find your social sweet spot with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com slash had it today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash had it. All right, let's welcome to I've Had It, Jason and DeVrom, the good liars. One of my favorite Instagram pages ever. Talk about taking one for the team. Yeah.

You guys deserve a profile in courage. It's unreal, the shit you do. I want to inject every video straight into my veins.

In your veins, we highly recommend not doing that. It will not be good for your brain. It will hurt your brain. That's kind of what we do when we go to these events. We're getting it straight to the brain and it's not it's not the healthiest thing in the world. So so so that our listeners know they go to Trump rallies regularly.

political town halls and interview the far right wing of the political spectrum. And so you guys were at January 6th, were you not? We were. Yeah, we don't want to brag too much, but we were there.

Pretty wild day. We got there the day before and it felt pretty intense, but we could never have predicted what would obviously unfold. But yes, we saw it. Saw it happen. How far in did you go? Into the Capitol? Yeah. We did not go into the Capitol. I was trying to think of a joke to say there, but I didn't want to implicate myself and have the FBI show up at my door. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I know we were we were leaving town when Trump was giving a speech. And then we saw like the crowd going from where Trump was speaking to the Capitol. And we pulled over and we witnessed the moment that it was stormed and like they broke in to it, which we do a lot of funny stuff. That was something that was not very funny. It was not a fun thing to be at. Yeah.

It was definitely stuck with us for a long time. And we ended up getting surrounded by Trump supporters, by some of the rioters at one point, too. It was not fun. It was not a fun day. What do you mean they surrounded you? They saw that I had a microphone in my pocket and they called us the fake news, which I don't know if they're right. We're not fake news. We want to say that for anybody listening. That is not what we are. We don't know exactly what we are, but not fake news, not fake news. Yeah, yeah.

So they like formed a little semi circle, a little semi circle, a semi circle around. It was like eight of them.

And luckily, I guess luckily, because they were other people had been like storming the Capitol, like a flashbang went off, which is what police used to like disperse protesters. And they all turned around and DeVrom and I looked at each other. We're like, let's get out of here. That was enough fun for the day. That was that was a little too close for comfort there. So we we got out of there. But before that, we got a lot of great videos. So I guess that was it was a silver lining to that day. But it was not not a fun day.

Yeah, I think that when I watched it go down on TV, I was just like, oh, my God, this is crazy. And then I thought that might be the end of it.

And then they keep having these rallies and it's kind of the same groups of people. And I keep watching your videos and the stupidity just seems to get bigger after that. Does it seem like they're getting more? It seems like it has to though, right? Like once something like that happens and you don't go walk the other direction, like we thought that would be an opportunity for people to say, okay, this is not, this is not what I'm all about. This is not my political party. And,

It was just an opportunity to go separate ways. Once you start justifying it, it feels like people are so far down this path that there's like the only option is to double down, but it's starting to look more and more ridiculous. Like people are like,

you know what, January 6th was actually the FBI, but also it was Antifa, but also everyone who was there was a patriot. And also, you know, Donald Trump is still the president, but also Joe Biden is the president, but being told what to do by Barack Obama. And it's just like this stuff. It's like a maze that you have to walk through to still be on board. And that's kind of what we're seeing when we go to these events. Yeah.

Tombrom, you're calling it a maze. I think you're just peeling the onion back. You don't know how deep this goes. It just goes really deep. Are they off of the JFK Jr. being a live thing? I haven't heard that lately. Are they still on to that or have they shifted?

They're still onto that. Some people are, but that has evolved as well. Right. There are just more things now. There are just more of them, but they have not given up on any of this stuff. Anything you heard, there's still a big group of people who believe that, but now there are other additional people

like threads to follow. So I just have a follow up question. Are they aware that JFK and JFK Jr. were liberal Democrats or is that lost on them? Don't get lost in the red tape here with all this stuff.

That's something we've explained before. And like I was trying to say before, the JFK Jr. is still a thing. But now there's people that believe JFK Sr. is alive and currently president with Trump right now, too, which is like, you know, there's a videotape of him famously getting shot, assassinated. And they still believe that he is currently working with Donald Trump right now at 100. Well, how old is he, Jerome? I got corrected. I think we did 108, maybe?

Yeah, you can also point out that they're liberal Democrats. But I think what they love is that they famously, I guess, feuded with the Clintons, at least for a time. So this is just another reason why he would be working with Donald Trump, because, you know, both groups of people don't like the Clintons. So that's all you need is one little thing and the rest can fall in line. And we're seeing that time and time again. One little thing.

thing you might be able to call a fact and the rest you just run with. Okay. Y'all recently gave Governor DeSantis, whom we affectionately refer to as Governor Kittenheels because of his little heels that he wears. So we saw a little moment on the internet where y'all gave Gov Kittenheels a participation trophy.

And I mean, I just, again, we were dying. Call me petty. Call me a small person, but I live for that shit. Tell us about that. Well, us too. We're, we're petty and small. And that it was like Ron DeSantis was clearly going to lose. And,

And he clearly was going to have nothing to show for this like whole election process. And, you know, we wanted to give him something at least to say that he earned from this election. Other than like burning through hundreds of millions of dollars and all that, he will have this trophy forever. And that's that's, you know, our gift to him.

And just as a guy who like hates the idea of the participation trophy, like a thing that that exemplifies everything that he says he doesn't believe in. But here he is just trying his darndest and losing in the presidential election. So we couldn't we couldn't resist. We couldn't resist. It was at the Iowa caucus and we just we went for it. The wife looked like she was burning a hole through you. Like, did she get it before he got it? Or could you tell? I think that probably happens to him a lot. Yeah.

I think she I think she knew what was going on. Also, he reached for it. And I'm really bummed he didn't grab it. He reached for it. He was going to take it. And then he kind of turned it into like a shoulder pat. I think once he realized what was going on. But yeah, I think I think she had it figured out at some point. But generously from her, she started the speech with nothing's going to stop us. And I was like, this is the perfect time. They both did their part. They both did their part.

Oh, that's so good. Okay. Let's move on to one of our favorite psychological case studies. And this is somebody who we think is the most unfuckable man, not only in the United States, but also the world. And of course, I am talking about Senator Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz. Okay, good. Gotta be. I thought I was like, I know what this is set up for. You didn't even talk to us about this. No. I was like, that sounds like

We're going to talk about Ted Cruz. I think when you hear unfuckable, I think you immediately, the brain immediately goes to Ted Cruz. Yes. Unsettling too. You could say just the most unsettling, awkward, weird, I think is another word that we've used in our- Sad and weird, we've used a lot. Sad and weird. Sad. We use unfuckable because again, we're small, petty people over here. Right. Right.

Have y'all had any exchanges with him? Many. Many exchanges. Maybe more than anyone else. Tell us your favorite.

Well, there's a couple of good ones. DeVrom gets up on stage with him at a, at an event in New Hampshire and Ted Cruz, they like do this big introduction for Ted Cruz. And then DeVrom just like follows him up on stage for this giant American flag. And Ted Cruz is about to start. And then he's just like, what made everyone so sad and weird that you had to come out here today? And Ted Cruz is just like, who is this guy? Why is he here? Uh,

But Dharam, do you want to tell the story of how you got on stage with him? The secret? Yeah, it's a big secret. It's a really complex secret. The security stopped me. And then I was like, oh, no, we're not. I'm not going to be able to do this prank. And then I had a clipboard with me and I just pointed at the clipboard and they were like, oh, by all means, of course, you're supposed to be here.

Sorry, sir. And then just walked up on stage. And yeah, it was a Second Amendment rally. So everyone was armed and I called them sad and weird. And Ted Cruz wasn't wasn't quite sure who I was, was understandably. But that was the first of many rallies.

many encounters. Yeah. We performed an exorcism on him in New Hampshire later that year. Cause we thought like he, he must be possessed by something. No human would act like this. There's the only reason he could be like this is if he's possessed by a demon and we performed an exorcism on him. And I'm sad to say, I don't think it worked. It did not work. It didn't work. We held up a mirror and we, we tried to get the evil to confront itself. Like we thought if he saw himself, like,

Like the evil spirits would just evaporate and leave. But he kept doing the same shit. So yeah, yeah, he kept doing it. Okay, let's get on to our brand of petty now. I could talk to you about this shit all the time because we love to traffic in right wing politics, although we are very, very left leaning. It's just so wildly entertaining and terrifying at the same time, which is I think why we all get such an adrenaline rush from it. But I digress. Jason, tell us what you've had it with. Okay, well,

So Debra and I, we travel a lot. We go to a lot of faraway places, mid-sized towns all around the country. One of the things I've had it with is airport food, not airline food, airport food. And there's several different levels to this. One is the price of airport food, anything you get. You could get a chicken salad sandwich for

And you're not going to pay less than $18 for this sandwich. You could get a banana is $2 at the airport. And on top of it, the food is never good. Even if it's like from an established restaurant, it tastes, there's something like rubbery about it doesn't taste as good. I think something needs to be done to improve it.

And I feel like it's highway robbery. So I've had it. Something's got to happen. Thank you, DeBron. Something's got to happen. Yeah. I just went through an airport. It was...

literally a chicken salad sandwich. And I was like spiked it in the garbage can, three bites in, $18 down the drain. But it was the worst, maybe the worst sandwich I've ever had. Well, you can't ever tell how old the food is. But we had sandwiches one time. The three of us, Kylie, Jennifer, and I sat down at the airport. We had three sandwiches. It was $80. I mean, I was like physically ill. I agree with you. I don't think I've ever had a meal in an airport. And we travel a lot too, where I have said,

That was great.

It's never. And why? Why can't they do it? Why can't they just have like a normal restaurant in an airport? It's like it's so, so, so bad. It seems like it's got to be. I'm just saying maybe there's a bigger plot behind it. Oh, what would it be? I think it's a senior working together. That controlling big airport. Yeah. You know, I think you could probably get Marjorie Taylor Greene on this. Yeah. With Mike Johnson. Yeah.

And I bet it has something to do with the eclipse and the rapture. Yeah. You know, I think it's probably all connected and the space lasers and the airports. Right. She'd be like, I love airport food. And that's because I'm close to God. Right. It only tastes bad to you. That is a good way to say it. It's close to God because I feel like you're getting closer to death every time you eat it. And just like, not just the quality of the food, but just like, I just spent all this money on this terrible, terrible food.

sandwich here. Devram, what have you had it with? I've had it with beer prices. I'm sure this is an easy one too, I guess, but I was just thinking about it before coming on here. I spend in New York City $30 for a six-pack of

decent beer. And then that's just to drink it in my apartment, my shitty apartment where like I'm on the ground floor and someone is not like very often peeing in the recycling area right outside my living room window. And like, so I pay like $30 for the privilege of drinking a beer and

in my living room. And that's not to mention, like, if I wanted any, like, atmosphere, like, say I wanted to go to, like, a sporting event or something, have a beer, it would be, like, $25 for one beer. Wow. Is this a New York problem? Or is this Oklahoma City? It's going to be cheaper. Okay, I can tell you that. Because...

Obviously, Jesus. Our governor, Governor Kevin Stitt, he dedicated every square inch of our state after he won his second term to Jesus Christ. So knowing that we are under that tutelage, I could only imagine that our beer would be superior, more godly, and less expensive. Yeah, just check the prices. I think you're probably right. Just check the prices and you could prove that out right there. Exactly. Exactly.

It's basically holy water. Yeah. Holy water. That's exactly what it is. Do you think if I go back to New York, I'm away right now, but when I go back to New York, if I dedicate the state to Jesus, do you think the beer prices would drop or are we, we're screwed? Let me tell you. I don't think it couldn't hurt to try. Let me tell you what happened after the governor did that fucking thing.

fucking nothing fucking nothing fucking nothing happened and Oklahoma is I think we're ranked 49th in education which is so surprising considering the dedication of every square inch that's so cool you guys beat someone that's great congrats is that what you were looking for congrats I assume there that is cool not to get last we have to know who 50th was now though yeah sure it's probably I think it was Alabama or Mississippi yeah yeah I was I was gonna say Mississippi but

I was surprised that Mississippi, like their life expectancy was like 40, 45th or something. I was like, hey, way to go. That's great. That's great. Killing it. Do you guys go to a lot of red states for these rallies? Yeah, it's usually like a mid-sized city outside of a slightly larger city, but most of the time in like an airport or a field somewhere. So they're red states, but they just look like

Fields, wastelands, farmlands that we're gathering in. I want to know this. I'm obsessed with his obsession about size. I think I know why he's so obsessed with size because he has a little bitty tiny pee pee. But what are the crowd sizes? A little tiny mushroom penis.

This is something that I wish would go away. Not us talking about Trump's penis right now. So we can talk about that for as long as we want. But the crowd size, like everyone, I feel like on the left wants to be like, nobody likes Trump. He's like, the crowds are dying out, like whatever, like they're not popular anymore. His crowds are huge. He sells out giant things. They're like, he's doing them in fields where it's like a festival. Like it can go back as far as you want. Like,

He is very, very popular. Usually by the time we leave, there's still a line of cars that are waiting to get into the place. He is extremely popular with a certain portion of the population. So he is very, very popular.

Jason, that kills me. No, I mean, I would think so because when you – I don't obviously go to Trump rallies or really leave the Oklahoma City area because it gets really Trumpy in the surrounding suburbs. But when I get on Instagram or something and I see like Al Roker posted a picture with Jill and Joe Biden and the Easter Bunny.

And I looked at the comments and it is just rabid, unhinged Trump supporters that are just going crazy. Like Joe Biden is this diabolical, nefarious mastermind. And I see there's just thousands upon thousands of trolls in there. And I'm like, oh, shit, like there's a lot of them.

but isn't it isn't it interesting that he's this diabolical mastermind but also people say too old to do anything exactly like that he both occupies like the the greatest fears but also he's like worth ridiculing to these people so it's like which which is it are you scared or do you think he's too old to be president but people are like

Like Jason was saying, whether it's one or the other, people are really engaged. And a lot of times, like, we go early so that we don't have to wait in the two-hour line of cars. The people are there. And like you said, whether it's the comments or us seeing at the rallies, like, the support is real. It's hard to say exactly what percentage of America it is, but they're there in big numbers. Pumps, doing the podcast, our other jobs, being mothers, maintaining friendships, everything

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Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.com.

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Find your social sweet spot with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com slash had it today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash had it. Okay, we're going to play a game with you guys called had it or hit it. Okay, if you don't like something, you'll say had it. And if you like it, you'll say hit it. Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day.

Okay. Had it or hit it. RFK Jr. Had it. Had it. Wait. Had it. Yeah. Had it. Not going to hit that. Not going to hit that. Although he is a fit boy. He's very, very in shape. I just hesitated because he really works out a lot. So I was like, maybe I'd hit that. Had it. Yeah. Steroids and conspiracy theories and yeah. Had it. Okay. Had it or hit it. Stanley Cups. Stanley Cups. Do you know what these are?

You live in New York. I want to live in- Oh, Stanley Cups. Stanley, the Stanley Cups. Yes. I was just hearing hockey. He's fine. I don't care about Stanley. I thought this was a hockey reference. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand. Why would it be better? Why would it be better than another, than the other one? Why are they better than the other one? Because it's $60, DeBrom. Why would anybody need many, many, many of them? They cost a lot of money. It's a status symbol. They fit your cup holder perfectly. I love mine. Jennifer hates them. Let me ask you this. Do you see a lot of Stanley Cups at Trump rallies? Oh.

I'm going to be on the lookout now. It has not been something that I've even thought about. I've never seen the Stanley Cup at a Trump rally, but I will look for the Stanley Cups. I have a working theory, although this is very anecdotal on my part, that the Stanley Cup is

is a gateway drug to Trumpism. So if you guys could do some on the field research for me. Get back to us on that. If you could start, you know, try to find like a link a la, you know, Homeland, Carrie Matheson linking up Stanley Cups to Trumpism or Glenn Beck. Remember on Fox when he used to make all those crazy,

Connection. We can try, but we see a lot of Miller Lights at Trump rallies, and you drink those straight from the can. So it's hard. We will check it out, though. Maybe we'll find the link you're looking for. Okay. Had it or hit it, the gay agenda. Hit it. I love the gay agenda. Hit it. Love the gay agenda. Keep up the agenda. Keep it up. Keep it up, guys. I love it, too. Why not? I remember back when, I think it was...

George W. Bush was running against John

John Kerry and the big thing was the the Democrats and the gay agenda and they Karl Rove put on the ballot like in several states the gay marriage initiative and everybody came out and voted for George W Vish because of family values and I think that's kind of what Trump in the far right is doing right now with all of the anti trans rhetoric is trying to Demonize that group definitely. It feels like it's the same playbook

And it's interesting now because Democrats are kind of, I mean, it's not similar really in any way, but as far as they're putting things on the ballot now with abortion rights. So I think that hopefully that's going to turn people out too for Democrats in November too, especially in Florida where it looks like it's going to be on the ballot in Florida. But yeah, I often think of that in 2004, like we're in the middle of the Iraq war and he's just like gay.

Gay people are bad. And that was like, he was like, right guys, come on, come on. And then like, that's kind of what swung the election, even though there was like an unpopular war going on and he was just a terrible president. He ended up winning it strictly on homophobia. Last one, had it or hit it, the war on Christmas. I,

I hit it. I love the war on Christmas. I'm going to do it. I am a proud soldier in the war on Christmas. I've been fighting it for so long. I'm going to make it. I want to ruin Santa Claus for all the kids. I'm going to just ruin it, ruin it all. And I'm coming after Easter next. We're going to go after Easter.

We're going to go after, I don't know what other holidays are super important, but we're going to, we're going to go after Easter next. We're not stopping with, with Christmas where we're taking over. Young for me, I was grew up in a small town in Colorado when we would go to the mall and for two months a year,

It was Christmas stuff for two months a year. And I would look around and I was the only Jewish kid in town pretty much. But I'd be like, isn't this too much? And everyone was like, no, we love this. My war on Christmas started when I was like seven years old. And I thought someone's got to do something about this.

It's personal. I'm glad you're talking about it. Yeah, I know. I want to talk about it too because I just, you know, I see Christmas every year. All the time. It's constantly winning every year. Even me, an atheist, I put up two Christmas trees in my house. So sometimes the battle is within the house. Sometimes it's inside your own home. So it's a constant struggle that we're all fighting, you know.

Well, the Christmas tree is a pagan symbol, isn't it? So you could kind of be like, I know it's not atheists, but it's not, you know, Christians. So you can, you're kind of winning by putting them up. And I would make the argument, you should put up more Christmas trees to fight Christmas. There you go. We had a thing where I can't remember what it was. It was like a year ago, maybe two years ago, where I tweeted something that was like something about the war on Christmas. And then somebody tweeted,

tweeted something terrible in response to it. And it was like a tongue-in-cheek joke tweet about like, I'm ready for the war on Christmas. And they started saying all these terrible words, throwing them at me. And then people looked at their profile and it turned out they were a school teacher. And I don't think it was Oklahoma. I think it was Texas.

But they found out that this was a teacher who was teaching civics or something. He was a history teacher or something. And he had just been trolling all these people's comments. And the people that saw this, it ended up being a news story. Yeah.

And it's just wild to think like that. People actually think there's a war on Christmas. And some of them are teaching your children and trolling people online. We should say, though, we have been arrested one time and all the stuff we've done. We have been arrested. And it was for shutting down Santa Con in New York online.

All the people wear Santa Claus costumes and they just like have sex in public and throw garbage everywhere and throw up on the street. And so we posed as a group of concerned citizens and we put up signs that said Santa Con is canceled. And we showed up on the morning of Santa Con and said, get back on the New Jersey Transit or Long Ireland Railroad or wherever you came from and just leave. It's canceled. And we got arrested. So I was just thinking about it while we're talking about we really walked the walk.

war on Christmas. Totally. You really are foot soldiers on this thing. That's right. Well, if you guys ever come to a Trump rally in Oklahoma City, we would love to host you and have you in studio. I am the biggest fan of your work. It brings me

so much joy that you go out and take the bullet for us to have that content. Because it's really, it's both funny, terrifying, and fascinating to a window into the mind that is this cult that is, you know, sweeping the country and has been sweeping the country for the last 10 years. Well, we would love to come visit you in Oklahoma City. And we got to find, we got to, maybe we got to put this on Donald Trump. Donald Trump, if you're listening, I don't know if you're listening of this podcast here.

I've had it. But if, if you are have a rally in Oklahoma city, so Devram and I can come down there. Maybe we'll go to a thunder game. Yes. Deep playoff run. And, uh, we, we would, we would love to come in the studio again and hang out with you guys. So we appreciate that. I would love it.

All right. Thank you guys so much. Oh, and you have a live show, right? And a new podcast. That's right. We have a live show on May 23rd in Washington, D.C., and you can get tickets at goodliars.com. We also have a podcast, The Good Liars Tell the Truth. New episodes come out every Tuesday, and you'll hear behind-the-scenes stories, and we're kind of going to be walking you through

The 2024 election, from our point of view, we've been on the ground now and been to a lot of different crazy events. So you'll get kind of a firsthand view of what's really going on on the ground. So good liars tell the truth. It's everywhere podcasts are available. All right. Thank you guys so much. Thanks, guys.

I cannot tell you how much I love the good liars. They're so funny. They're so affable and warm. Do you follow them on Instagram? Yes. It cracks me up that these people just don't seem to get it. Half the time, they don't get it. They're so smart, so clever, so creative. And I would just go as far to say what they're doing is like a great service to the internet to show how insane...

and to highlight the cognitive dissonance in which that side of the political spectrum now operates. Yeah, it's really, like you said, it's terrifying, fascinating, and funny all rolled into one. Here's a little dream of mine. I think it would be a total blast.

to like go on a covert mission with them and go to a Trump rally. I know that that's fucked up. I know that's fucking crazy. But I would just like, I'd be like, can I be the camera woman and just stand there and film? And just, I would like to see it firsthand. I would like to see it in person. There's a part of me that's kind of fascinated with it too, that I'd kind of want to get my eyeballs on it. How terrifying is it?

that they said his crowds are gigantic and he's wildly popular. That really disappointed me. I really wanted him to say, I really wanted him to say like two, 300 people. That's what I was hoping for. So that kind of was just a little pin in my balloon. You would think he would have to be pretty popular to have something like 90 felony indictments and still win the Republican nomination. Right. As I've told you before, I wouldn't date someone with 90 felony charges. Right.

What about 85? No. 80? None. 50? Zero. Pumps. I think you're giving yourself too much credit. Maybe like a DUI 20 years ago. I mean, no. I can see you dating someone with 10 felony indictments. No. That is bullshit. No. I think you're selling yourself short. I think you're way more accepting. Let's look at your ex-husband, for example. Not that they're in felony indictments, but...

A lot of questionable. A lot of questionable shit there. Yeah. No, I just, I think that would be just a red flag. Even I could identify as bad. Don't act like you've all of a sudden got some outstanding picker. No, I'm saying as bad as my picker is, and it is confirmed the worst in history, I still think that I'd be like,

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Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.com.

After I do it, I feel so much more centered, so much more grounded, and so much more functioning. Listener, if you're thinking about starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire and get matched with a licensed therapist, and you can switch therapist at any time for no additional charge.

Find your social sweet spot with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com slash had it today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash had it.