An Opinionated Homosexual with Cody Rigsby
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This episode is brought to you by SimpliSafe. So are we supposed to start the podcast? One, two, three. I just knew going in that was going to be good. I did hear some more criticism of my clapping. No. The duct tape. It's packing tape. I had a little boob issue this morning, so I had to have Madison tape me up in addition to my bra. So she has packing tape. So if you hear this...

That's my packing tape. She has packing tape on the dragons, guys. I didn't have any boob tape. This is what a real star does, though. You modify. You modify. You modify. I mean, I had two band-aids over the nipples because you could see them. So I double band-aided. Then it still was like they were at my knees. I mean, the dragons were sagging.

So I had to come up with some packing tape here at J. Welch D. How industrious. It was so industrious. That's very MacGyver. We'll just wait until I try to get all this shit off. Oh, yeah. That might not be good. That's right. Well, pumps, what have you had it with? Oh, my gosh. I just can't even wait to tell you what my hat is. Okay.

Okay. So I have a dear friend that came over for dinner last night and she was telling me that she has a summer intern. Okay. Who's Gen Z, which I know we love Gen Z, but this is kind of a nervousy. So she told me that she wanted her to go run this errand and it would probably take her like five or 10 minutes over what she's supposed to work. Okay. And the girl looked at her to her face and said, I can't do that. It's a self-care boundary. Okay.

And she's like, self-care boundary at work? I couldn't believe it. I was just, I go, what did you say? And she goes, I couldn't say anything. I was so stunned. This is the same intern that thought maybe she had an assistant as an intern.

22. Wait, thought she had an assistant? Yeah, the intern thought she was going to have an assistant this summer. The intern thought she would have an intern? Correct. And had a self-care boundary. What was the task?

To go look for some chairs to put in the front office place or something. It wasn't like go, you know, lift 500 pound boxes and stay until midnight. It wasn't like go park outside of IHOP and see if my husband walks out with his mistress, which that could be a self-care boundary. I'd agree. I would agree with that self-care boundary. Like, look, bitch, I am not jumping in your toxic shit. Or the babysitter, when I said, I need to take your car.

for some recon. Right. That would have been a boundary. The babysitter then could have said, listen, I don't want to be a part of this sinking battleship.

But if you're an intern and you're trying to build your resume and your boss tells you you might have to work five to ten minutes extra and you pull out a boundary, this goes to boundary abuse. She also told me that the three Gen Z's in her office, in her place of work...

cry like at least once or twice a week. Between the three of them, somebody's crying every day at work. You know, that kind of makes me sad because I think this generation grew up with cell phones, right? And that was a bigger companion for them than interpersonal relationships sometimes. Like they text each other, they Snapchat each other, and then you get thrown into the real world and you have to have

interpersonal relationship skills. And you don't know how. And they don't have them and it's not their fault. Well, I also think, and we know I'm guilty of this, but I also think it's that

Everything has been made so easy for you your entire life. And everybody shoves rainbows and lollipops up your ass all day. So when you go to a real place of work and they're like, this is the shit that needs to be done. I don't give a shit if you're here till six hours past your end of day work. You've got to get it done. There's no coping mechanism. They don't know how to face anything but...

I'm the best. I'm the prettiest. I'm the smartest. Mommy's so proud of me, all that shit. So I mean, I think it is a very big disadvantage for these kids. Well, I think they also grew up in, you know, like the Instagram world and Snapchat world and a world of filters. And so it would make sense to me because this is the first generation that grew up with

with the phone as their companion, their entire life or some sort of device. It would make sense to me that we're seeing tons of anxiety from this because when we were younger, we had to talk on the phone or we had to go walk to our friend's house if they weren't answering their phone and ring the doorbell. And it makes sense to me that anxiety, depression, and a lot of

that you have when you're a young adult, social media and the filter world would exacerbate. And so I don't think this is just happening in a vacuum at your friend's place of employment. Oh, of course not. I think this generation in general, you're seeing higher anxiety rates, higher rates of depression. And I did it too. Like it was easier sometimes when we went out to eat just to, when my kids weren't,

were really young so they wouldn't be a nuisance in the restaurant to put a device in front of them. Absolutely. And I don't know that that was the best choice that I made. I think it would have been better if they weren't old enough to go out to eat than say, okay, we're going to eat at home, but we're going to put all of our devices away and talk.

And so I see what everybody's saying, but I have two Gen Z kids and I do see that there is a level of anxiety, not just with my children, but with their friends as well, that I don't know that we had. And I don't know that everybody knows how to navigate that. Most of all, them. A hundred percent. I completely agree with that.

It is, it is Gen Xs that raised Gen Z. It's our fault because we didn't know what the fuck to do with these phones. We use them as babysitters. A hundred percent. We used all of these electronic devices to substitute for us not having, having to get on the floor and do puzzles and stuff with them. Right. And I'm guilty of that. I'm just saying, I think it's a collective problem how to parent in the post modern smartphone world because my kids are now 17 and 20 and

And I do, there are times I wish I could go back and be like, everybody give me your phones and let's sit down. And like we do when we go on vacation for Thanksgiving, we take everybody's phone away and we sit down and talk. But I mean, within 10 to 15 minutes, somebody's begging for a phone to take a selfie. That's the problem. Right. But that's okay. So I appreciate all that. But the whole point is somebody at 22 told their boss, right?

They couldn't do something because of their self-care boundaries. That's bullshit. I mean, that is just unbelievable. That's total bullshit. That person is not going to make it into the world. No, no. And that's piggybacking on... Like, boundaries are healthy and real, but you not being able to work an extra five to ten minutes doing a non-toxic, non-fucked-up task, like going to look for chairs... Right. ...is bullshit, and that's just... That's total bullshit. But I wanted to...

to defend kids that have anxiety because it's,

I've read a lot about it and I think it's happening to a huge generation. And I think the problem of it is their main companion, their entire life has not been another human being. It's been a device. I don't think anybody can argue the phones have not created more anxiety in youngsters. I mean, there's just no, oh God, youngsters. That sounds like a 150 year old person. Youngsters. Young bucks. Okay. All right. Here we go. I'm going to tell you what I've had it with. Okay.

It's tooth wrong. Okay. It has to do with parking. I love a good parking habit. Two egregious parking habits. Number one is...

The person that steals your parking spot. Right. You're locked and loaded. Right. You're waiting. You have your blinker on. That's key. You've been there four to five minutes. Right. The person backs out and then you kind of have to wait for them to back in front of your car. And while you do that, somebody comes from the other way and just turns right in. Right. That's total bullshit. That's bullshit. That's parking thievery. Yes. Had it with that. But here is probably the creme de la creme of parking issues. Right.

And it is the parking where you are at a mall.

or a busy shopping center and parking at the very back is just not an option because there are no spots. Right. And the cars are going, you're going up and down every aisle. And then finally you find some shoppers with bags in their hands and you're stalking them as they walk to their car. Yes. And they know you're stalking them and they get in their car, they put their bags in and then they get in their car and then they sit on their phone for 10 minutes. There's nothing I hate more than that. Get in your car, back up, move on. That's

Fucking ridiculous. Nobody needs to take eight to 10 minutes to get situated in their car. It's just not that hard. I cannot stand people that do that. That's the worst thing.

It is the absolute worst, especially around holiday season. You're shopping and the last thing you really want to do is go to a mall. The last. Much less spend 30 to 45 minutes. But when this happens to me, I am super cognizant that I need to get- I am too. Out of the parking space immediately so that this person can get in. Right. It's an efficiency issue. But I find-

more times than not it's like it's a power trip for the person that has the space you think they're holding to see I just think it's a lack of self-awareness more than a like a choice to say fuck you but like there's eye contact that's made like hey are you leaving and they're like yeah and then they get in their car and it's you know five seven minutes go by yeah I know but I still think it's a lack of self-awareness I

I don't know. It's awful. I don't know what it is. I think, I think that it's like a power trip or something. I mean, maybe once they get in their car, like I wish there could be a sign that comes up that starts a countdown. Like you have 45 seconds, 44 somewhere. See, this is one of those issues where we need some sort of referee. Right. A parking lot. A social referee. A parking lot referee. Yes. With a whistle to be like, you know, get it out. Get it in their arm. Like, get out of here. Let's go. Let's go. That's what I think. No, I agree with that.

Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. We like to call her Pumps. Kylie, what is going on on social media? I've got a really great review for you. Okay. Five stars. Okay. Pumps is so hot. She makes me think things. But when our dear Jennifer Welch begins to laugh or giggle, my heart begins to beat. She is so sensual when she laughs.

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And we went with a couple of people and I've had it with the group that is just like clinging on to your pockets, not financially, but just clinging on once you do every single thing that you do. Yes. And then they get mad on the days that you're like tired. Cause you know, we did a lot of hiking and there were some days I was like, oh, why don't you go and chill today? Well, we're not doing nothing. Dude, go do something. You're like, plan your own outing. Get off my nipple. Well, we're glad you're back, Richard. I'm glad to be back, ladies. Pumps, listener, listener.

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All right, so we have a fantastic guest today. He is a Peloton superstar and the author of XOXO Cody. Let's welcome to I've Had It, Cody Rigsby. Cody Rigsby, welcome to I've Had It. How are you?

I'm well. How are y'all? We're great. Thanks for the y'all shout out. I just felt like y'all were y'all people. We are y'all people. We are y'all people. Yeah. And honestly, sometimes, you know, you two remind me so much of my godmothers growing up, Linda and Brenda. Yeah.

Brenda and Brenda were from Tennessee. Y'all look just like, like, it just reminds me so much. Brenda always had frozen white, uh, white grapes in her white wine. I feel like maybe y'all would align with me on that. Maybe not. I'm not sure. So disappointing. Cause we don't drink so many people, but we don't, I used to, I mean, we had a great run. We had a great run, but you know, I support that. You can still put some frozen, um,

some frozen grapes into some Martinelli sparkling grape juice. That sounds tasty. Yes. I do love a frozen grape. I do love a frozen grape too. Okay, so...

I was telling our listener before we brought you on, you are a Peloton superstar. Tell me about this. So like Peloton is the bike that somebody has in their home and then the screen comes on and you have an instructor. And so when you teach your classes, you're teaching online classes, online exercise classes. Yeah. So, uh, you know, I've been, I just celebrated nine years of Peloton. So it's been a while. It is the quote unquote Netflix of fitness, whatever you want to work out, come on.

Come on, come on down and we'll get you together. And so, yeah, I've been a part of this community and thing for nine years and it's,

completely like changed my life around. And cause I started off as a, as a backup dancer here in New York city and found really like my purpose and my thing as a fitness instructor. Well, I have to say, I'm not objectifying you, but when you did stand up and you were like moving your camera around, I could tell that you're rocking. Okay. I mean, I was like, wow, he does do Peloton. You have my consent to objectify.

And we have that on tape. Right. Yes, we do. Yeah. But you know, all of this has been fun and positive and we need to, we need to make 180 degree turn right now. And we need to get on brand and we need to shit talk. So tell us, tell us what you've had it with. Oh, wow. We're already, we're already jumping in. Right into it. Yes. Yeah.

Can I do two or am I only limited to one? You can do 10. As many as you want. Oh, okay. Well, my first one I've had it with people who wear the wrong undergarments with fitness apparel. Okay. Like I don't need to see your panty lines. Like who dressed you, your mother? Like what is going on? Like if you're going to wear tights, either wear no underwear or a, or a thong that is going to work for you. That's what I think. I,

I do bar every day and there are ladies in there with their underwear on with their tights. And I'm just like, why are you wearing underwear? Like this is the time not to wear underwear. Thank you. Like what is going on? And I was at the gym the other day and I saw a girl wearing like an off-white biker short and I could see her black thong through it. I was like, mama, are we not in alignment that the material is going to be opaque and I'm going to see your underwear? Yeah.

I'd rather see your camel toe than see this underwear. What's going on? And listen, this is not this is not a sexist conversation. I'm also going to call out the faggots that are listening. If there are any. Your jockstrap is showing through your tights, sweetheart. So like fix the underwear to like put on a thong as well or not at all. But that's a lot shown in the front for some.

Now, I agree. I mean, I think that you need to prepare your workout attire, especially if you're going to a class or out in public. And you need to prepare it to look at, I cannot stand seeing these panty lines with people that are wearing leggings. It drives me crazy. It's the worst. And while we're on this, I think there's something, we've talked about this before, but I think you're the perfect person to drag this dead horse out and beat it again. And this is...

exercise clothes fraud this is athleisure fraud these are people that dress for the day as though they're going to the gym and they never go ever interesting yeah interesting it's epidemic they want to be a part of the lifestyle of the clothing but they don't want to live the lifestyle is what you're saying that's right it's fraud

It is a little fraudulent. Wow. Living here in New York, I don't think we get as much of that. There's not the ladies and the athleziers going to the Panera Bread and then the Target and then heading on back home. Really? No. I feel like most New Yorkers are either stopping at the gym or we're wearing something cool. I love a good gym.

of both. I like a good like street weird mixed into the athletic wear. So it looks cool and it's comfortable. Like I'm so fortunate that I work in fitness. So I, that's kind of where I land. Like I've got my like workout clothes, but I'll throw a shirt over it and make it look like, you know, hip as the girls would say. But yeah, like if you're going to put it on, like work it out or find something else comfortable to wear, but like, wait, like,

Would we rather have the fraudulent athleisure people or do you, or do you want them running around looking like pajamas to be comfortable? Because like, that's also just sloppy and a mess. I'm going with the faux worker outers over the PJ. I would prefer that because at least it's in their mind. At some point they may have thought, I have a good idea. I'm going to exercise today. And maybe they never take it over the finish line, but there was a preparation and a good thought that,

And then a procrastination, but the pajama people that wear pajamas all day. I just, that's a bridge too far for me. Thank you. I agree. I agree. I agree. Also people that wear pajamas look like they're going to fight you at any moment. It just reminds me, it reminds me of the rowdy girl in middle school. That was really, really ready to knock him buck. If you, if you said the wrong thing.

You know, and you know what I think about the exercise fraud clothes? Like, what if I, what if y'all saw me, Pumps and I were in Brooklyn and I had on medical scrubs. Okay. And we met up and there's a lot of fraud in that. And you said, Hey, so are you, are you working in the hospital now? No, no, I'm just, I am just comfortable. And if anybody needs a swab of any sort, I'm, I'm ready to go. Yeah.

If anybody needs a swab, I've got my gloves ready to go. It's interesting though. I do notice like at activities, people that I know are not practicing medicine or dentistry in some way show up in their scrubs. I'm like, oh my God, they're trying to make everybody think they're a doctor. What? This really happens? Yes. Yes.

Scrub fraud? Yes, scrub fraud. I just now thought when you said that, I was like, oh my God, the scrub abuse is parading around like you're a doctor. You see this? Yes. I was just using it as an example as to how ridiculous the faux exercisers are. But you're saying there is scrub attire fraud, people wearing scrubs that do not work in any form of healthcare industry.

Maybe they work in some form, but I know they're not a doctor or a dentist or anything like that. No. Physical therapist? No. Because I have friends that are physical therapists and they wear straps. Right. But I'm just saying like they're not working in a hospital or any kind of medical. That's fraud. Yeah. This is wardrobe fraud. You notice it more with divorce. Hopefully nobody says...

Is there a doctor on the plane? What do you say? You're going to the wrong person. And everyone's looking at you and they're like, sorry, I just actually, I just put on these scrubs because I wanted people to think I was a doctor.

I notice it more with divorce people too. Like you get a divorce, you're out there cruising around, you put on your scrubs like you have a bunch of money. I have seen that. That is a bait and switch. It really is. It's kind of brilliant when you think about it. That is a bait and switch. It's totally a diabolical bait and switch. I've seen it with my own eyes. I have personal knowledge. Really? Yes. I was just using that as an example as to how it works.

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Okay. Had it or hit it on the job training with sexual partners. So what I'm talking about is you get a sexual partner and they don't know how to do sex. Well, um, on the job training with sexual partners. Oh, you know what? I actually, I think I wrote a little bit about in the, in my book. You did, which is amazing. I laughed out loud a thousand times. It's hilarious.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I think my answer went as something like this. I'm going to say hit it because, you know, maybe the investment is worth a good sexual partner and you're going to get a lot of practices slash orgasms. And if they fail, you can just like kick them to the curb as quick as you need to. I like it. I like that attitude. You're like, hey, you don't know how to eat pussy. Here's mine. Go. Yeah.

And you're like, okay, you know, they might get it.

And, and listen, how, how amazing would it be for you to create a person that knows how to cunnilingus very well. And then you send them on to the next partner and you're like, you see them out together. You're like, yeah, that's all. That's me. Okay. You're really happy. You're welcome. Yeah.

Okay. Had it or hid it. Bridezilla's. Had it. Had it.

Like what is wrong with these people? Like, I don't understand. Like, I think I also say this in the book also, like, is your wedding day like something you want to check off and is all about you? Or is that actually about like professing your love, having a connection, being with people? Like, it's okay if shit goes wrong on your wedding day. Like, just chill the fuck out. Okay. So when I was reading this, I told Jennifer, I was like, I read the passage here where somebody asks and then what your response was because it was fabulous. And she was like,

And I said, I think I'm the checker off the boxer person. Like I wasn't a bridezilla. I was just like, okay, I've got to get married. This is what I have to do. I mean, I was walking down the aisle going, this could go either way. So you can imagine how it did go. Not well. But I mean, I was more excited about like how many bridesmaids are going to have what color their dresses. Like didn't give a shit about the marriage, which should have been a red flag. Yeah.

I'm assuming that one didn't work out. It did not. As a matter of fact, it crashed and burned in spectacular, spectacular, believable fashion. I was there with her when the whole thing happened. And I remember at some point when the whole thing started falling apart, I asked her, I said, so like when y'all were engaged, did you not see any of this? She goes, Oh no.

I did. I had just already committed to, you know, being engaged. So I had, I mean, I had to move forward. I invited 500 people to the wedding. Also, it was bad. It was bad. After this podcast listener, you might want to stay on for a pump seminar on how to get married. Yeah. How to pick a husband with pumps.

There we go. No, I agree with you on the bridezilla. I think that sometimes people taking things too seriously is so detrimental. Like taking, you know, that you're a bride and that it's everything's supposed to be perfect. I think anytime you approach something with everything is supposed to be perfect, it's

something is going to go wrong and then you're going to be profoundly disappointed. So it's better to approach things with this is probably going to be okay, hopefully really good, but some things will go wrong. Yeah, absolutely. The more we listen, the thing I've learned in life and have worked on plenty through therapy is the more that we try to control something, the more chaotic it gets and gets farther away from what we actually are trying to make it. Absolutely. Exactly. Okay. Had it or hit it.

Stupid questions. Oh, I'm on the fence on this one because sometimes I have to ask stupid questions. Right. Do a dramatic reading from his book. So I saw this and it was so good that I have to bring it up to you. We've been reading your book. So do a dramatic reading from his book. I mean, this was the best answer I've ever seen in my life. So the question to you was, my man still hasn't left his wife. What should I do?

Your answer, girl, read that question back to yourself. Girl, read the question back. I was busting out laughing. I mean, that is funny. I mean, you do go on to explain better, but I mean, I'm just like, enough said, mic drop.

Like, baby, what are you doing? What are you doing? Listen, and I've also talked about in the book, I did date a married man and made that mistake. But like, how are we sitting here being like, this man is already in a relationship and I'm going to wait on them to get out of it, then to date me. And then I have the audacity to think to myself, oh, this man ain't going to cheat on me. What the fuck?

the fuck is going on up here? Okay. I have so many questions about this affair that you had. Okay. Okay. Was the man married to a man or a woman? A man. Okay. Okay. So he was married to a man and then you were the mistress. Yes.

Yeah. It's a little complicated in the gay world because they were open. So that's how it started. Okay. Okay. It was long. It was long distance. It was like a decade ago. Also, like they were open long distance. And so we were just hooking up, but then feelings evolved through that. You know, and that's what always happens with these kinds of situations. You know, pumps recently had an affair with a married man. I didn't know he was married. He was. Yeah.

She didn't know he was married. He was lying to her about it. And then he pops up on Facebook with a ring on. And so she confronts him about it. And he says to her, I wear, I've been divorced for 10 years. Like I told you, I just wear the ring at work so that it doesn't upset my coworkers. Yeah.

Sir, don't you dare. Don't you dare. Needless to say, that ended right then. Thank God. And thanks for being smart enough. And it was long distance, which I think makes it easier to cheat.

Of course. Yeah. Of course. Which I'm better at dating long distance though, because it's like a once a month or it's plenty. Oh, I, I'm not good at that. I'm not good. I'm not doing it. I'm not good at that. Too much effort, like every night to go out and look cute. Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm needy. I want like, I want my person next to me all the damn time. So. Oh,

Oh, I think that's kind of sweet. That is sweet. I've been, I go through phases. I've been with my husband for 22 years. So sometimes I want to spend a lot of time with him and I enjoy it so much. And then sometimes he bugs the ever living shit out of me and drives me crazy. And I can't get far enough away from him. And it vacillates back and forth. I mean, we've only been together for five years and we took a six month hiatus. So like, you know, we're,

Talk to me, I guess, in another five or 10 and then maybe I can relate a little bit more. Exactly. Okay. We'll see if one of us is in jail. We'll see. All right. Hat it or hit it. Marrying for money. Hat. Wait, hit it. Hit it.

I also say this in my book too. Yes, we know. We know. Then you curated these questions quite well for me to plug my book, XOXO Cody, an opinionated homosexual's guide to self-love relationships and tactful pettiness out September 12th.

So I'm going to say hit it, but just like fucking own it. Like if you're going to be with someone busted and rich, just own it. Don't try to give me like, oh, I love my man so much or I love my wife so much. Like if you're with them,

use the fucking money, do the deed that you need to do and keep it pumping, baby. Don't lie to us. Tell me it's some, some beautiful romance. Like honey, you're waiting for his ass to drop dead. So the, and you didn't sign a prenup and you're ready to be a multimillionaire. Thank you. Yeah. And you know what? People that marry for money, I mean, they have to earn it. I mean, there's a lot of work that has to go into that. You marry for money. You earn every penny. I was in Italy recently and this, um,

And she's probably like late 20s, like totally influenced out. I mean, the total I mean, she looked like an Instagram photo. And she sits down and she's kind of, you know, giving everybody the stink eye sizing everybody up around her and I'm totally locked in on her because I'm kind of fascinated by the whole thing.

And then she, and everybody's kind of staring at her because she's such a knockout. And then this guy walks in and he's probably about five, six ish, no disrespect to short people, but he's probably about five, six ish. She's about probably five, nine, five, 10. He comes over, leans down, gives her a kiss, uh,

And then her face afterwards was this eye roll. And I mean, just this, this exhale. And you could tell she was utterly disgusted. Oh, you know what? It wasn't Italy. It was in New York. Right when we got back from Italy. And I looked at pumps and I said,

She has to go fuck him tonight. She doesn't want to. He just he is taking her up to that room and she's got to fuck him and she does not want to. You left out that he was at least 30 years older. Oh, yeah. But you could just see it all over her face. I mean, she just knew that the deed and the task ahead of her. She was not. She did not want to do it. And I watched the whole thing go down.

No, that's, I mean, that's a, that's somewhat of a strong woman. I just couldn't do it. I've had instances where I've had, like, I've gotten into sexual situations and then I'm like, Oh, I don't want to be here anymore. And like finishing it, you're like, Oh,

Get me out of here. So to do that on a regular basis just to have a Birkin bag, I mean, listen, that's work. It's work. It is hard work. It is hard. That is hard work. Okay, Cody, maybe you can tell us.

So these men that are 40, 30, 40 years older than their knockout spouses that have a lot of money, does it ever click in their brain? Like she's marrying me not because I'm so great and she's crazy about me because I'm rich. Or is that just like baked into the equation? They don't give a shit. I kind of, I want to kind of go deep into it. I just feel that most men,

And I'll even say some gay men, but straight men are actually just like super misogynistic and don't want to deal with women. They don't want to deal with women. They just want to have sex with women. So they don't actually see them as a person. They just see them as something to fuck. So I don't think they really...

I don't think they really care. They're just, they're just happy they're getting laid and have something pretty that they can show around. You know? I also think for a lot of straight men, like their ego, their wallet, their appearance, they cannot distinguish between any of them. So would they look in the mirror and they see Brad Pitt looking back at them? Like it's delusions of grandeur, you know, because their wallet is so successful. So, I mean, they really think, oh yeah, she loves to fuck me. I think they think that.

I really do. I think that that guy who came down, I mean, he thought he was the cat that ate the canary. I mean, he was strutting and he was marching her up to do her work. I think it also goes into like a power trip thing where I'm like,

If I'm like having sex with someone or even just like flirting with someone and it's not being reciprocated, I'm turned off. Like I want them to be excited also, not like me forcing the situation. Right. That doesn't compute to me. Right. Agreed. Okay. Had it or hid it, kitten heels. Okay.

Had it. What are we doing with one inch heel? What are we doing? Just wear a flat. Can we wear a flat? Can we wear a wedge? What is that doing? What is it doing? What is that doing to you? Do you feel sexy in a kitten heel? Like a boss ass bitch pumping these streets in a one inch kitten heel? I'm going to defend kitten heels for a second. I know. I know, Cody. I know. Tell me.

So as you get older, and I'm much younger than pumps for the permanent record, my feet from years of being a woman is hard. And wearing these heels, I used to go to gay bars with all my gay friends in the early 90s, mid 90s. And I danced in full-blown stilettos, closed the bar down, had my scissors out, cutting rugs, loved every fucking minute of it, Cody.

Okay. My feet hurt when I put on heels now. And recently, recently I was at Prada and I found a cute, sexy, sassy little kitten heel. Warm the work the other day. I felt hot. They were stylish. And so I'm just saying, don't be a hater on the kitten heel for women. I mean, I'm not that old, but especially for, you know, women that are pumps his age. Okay.

- Okay. But couldn't you find a cute flat or?

I'm going to send you a picture. I'm going to text you a picture of how cute I look. All right. He's had it. I'm hitting him. Okay. Well, permanent record that goes in the permanent record. We agree to disagree. Okay. Had it or hit it. Hose. Oh, hose. I am a hoe and will forever be a hoe. The whole lifestyle. It just doesn't quit. And we need to stop.

We need to embrace our sexuality. We need to embrace sexual liberation. We need to stop shaming people for wanting what they want, sleeping with who they want, for however many sexual partners they have. Like, this life is too short. Go out there and get some dick, okay?

I completely agree with you. The puritanism that is baked into the sexual shaming in this country. I'm over it. I've had it. Long live the hoes. Long live the hoes. As long as it's with consensual adults, do whatever you want. Okay? Live your life. Whatever you're into. Agree. Had it or hit it? Drag queens. Hit it, baby. I am nothing without drag queens. I'm obsessed. Obsessed. Obsessed.

I just saw your, a clip from your show where you're like, your ratings go up when you have drag Queens on your show. It is a, it is a Pablo Escobar cocaine bump of degree. We had on Delta work and Trixie Mattel. And I'm telling you the numbers are astronomical. So I propose to the anti drag queen movement. Why do you hate economic growth? Yeah.

Thank you. I thought y'all were pro-economy. About the economy? Come on. I thought you were pro-economy. These drag queens, these bitches make it rain. And they are wildly fun. They have the kind of humor that I love. That kind of cynical, smart humor. And I love that shit. Love drag queens. Hit them all day. Okay. Your final had it or hit it. Placing third in a contest. Wow. Read me, bitch. Read me. Okay.

Oh, excuse me. Okay. As second runner up of Dancing with the Stars, I say hit it. Okay. That's right. And for your knowledge, no one made extra money. Everyone made the same. So placing third was fine by me. Oh, that's good to know. That's awesome. Yeah.

I mean, that's really cool though. I mean, that's working your fucking ass off, man. Yes. It was a lot of work. Dancing with the Stars was a lot of work. I didn't even think I'd get to the finale. And once I got there, I was just like, can this be over? I want to be done. Let me cha-cha one more time and I want to go home.

Cody, we absolutely love you and we enjoyed your book. We received two advanced copies. Listener, it is XOXO Cody. If you love him on this podcast, this book is just full of...

of little shit like we throw out on our podcast. Pumps and I have been in stitches for the last two days reading it. It's a laugh out loud reader. It is so good. And I love that you do something so positive. Before you came on, we were talking about anxiety. And I think one of the best ways to treat anxiety is through exercise.

At least for me personally, like when I feel anxious, if I haven't exercised it, that anxiety is exacerbated. So I'm so happy that you do something that touches so many people's lives that makes them healthier and happier and less cranky like pumps in me. So it's just been an absolute pleasure having you on.

Oh, thank you. Thank you for that beautiful review of the book. And thank you so much for having me. I love sitting down with anybody I can shoot the shit and kiki with. So thank you so much. Great to have you. Thank you. Bye, Cody. Bye, booze. It's easy to see why people love him.

Totally. And you know what? I think it would be really fun to be an exercise instructor. Right. Because you're doing what you love to do. You're pumping people up. You can see change in people's lives. Like, it would be a pretty cool job. That and I would just love to be shouting out like right before the beat drops, 5, 6, 7, 8, now go. And like screaming at them. And then, you know, waiting for the beat to go back up again and go, and 5, 6, 7, 8, now go.

I do that all the time when the kids are in the car with me and I'm, I'm always listening to kind of like upbeat techno music. And right before the beat drops, I throw out the five, six, seven, eight. Give them the old countdown. I look over at them and they're, they're just completely numb to it. Horrified. No, they're not horrified. It's they're completely numb to it. They don't even think anything of it. They don't think I'm entertaining. They don't think I'm cool. It's just like, that's just what mom does. She dances in the car and shouts five, six, seven, eight does jazz hands.

Yeah, he would be my favorite instructor too. Totally. He's too fun. Well, listener, please go to the link in our social bio and figure out if the Hot Shit Tour is going to be at a city near you. Here's how it's going to go down. So we are releasing shows for every month because this is just kind of difficult.

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