A**holes on Airplanes with Passenger Shaming
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So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. It is a great day. It's a great day. I've had it podcast. Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with, as you know, we've been traveling, which means I have to watch my liberal news versus stream it. Right. And what I have had it with and what I find so obnoxious are all these erectile dysfunction commercials. We've got Rose. We've got Rose.

We've got HIMS. We've got some plant-based, organic, all-natural erectile dysfunction medicine. Then you've got your Viagra and your Cialis. And I fucking had it with men wanting a hard dick all the time and wanting to control women's bodies. So I propose we ban all ED medications. So all these limp dicks can't get laid.

until they leave women's bodies alone. That's my platform. I'm sticking to it. Well, and you know, this is the God's will crowd, right? It's so annoying. If God's will, if that's what we're going to live by and you can't get a hard on, then it's God's will that you be a soft serve. That's right. You're a soft serve. You can't get a hard on. If you're making us go by that, then you go by it. If you're a limp dick soft serve,

then immediately you're going to have to stay that way until you get out of women's uteruses. And I would like to point out for the listener that yet again, pumps has started off the episode with the discussion of penises. For those of you that take notes at home in your own personal permanent records that we have in our merch store,

You can start marking this down because it's getting really intense over here. And I've had it. It is intense. I mean, those commercials jumped off the page at me. So it must just be I've got dick on the brain. Soft serve dick. You know, it is really maddening. And it also shows you, I guess America has a limp dick epidemic. Obviously they do because they're supporting five different products globally.

for erectile dysfunction in the span of 24 hours that I watched commercials. Right. I mean, there's a lot of soft serves out there. Yeah, it's pretty bad. All right. Let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with expiration dates on salt and water.

could not agree more. What is the purpose of that? They're both old. They're old by design. It's unbelievable. I remember a couple of years ago, I was at a friend's house and she was like, get the salt. And I pull it out of her pantry and she goes, what's the expiration date? And I looked at her and I was like, you're kidding, right? And she was like, no, what's the expiration date? I go, it's old. It's always been old. It's, it's old. Salt is old.

And water is old. Stop with the expiration dates. It's performative expiration dates. Neither go old. Well, and I also think it's capitalism. So your water and your salt is one day expired. So you have to go get a whole new bunch. Which they will never expire. They never expire. Here's something that happened to me this summer.

So Luke, I had bought, you know, that big pack of chips where it's all kinds of different chips. A variety pack. A variety pack of chips. Yes. So I buy this variety pack. Nobody eats one flavor. I can't remember what it was. So my youngest Luke is bitching about we don't have any chips. And I'm like, yeah, we've got those chips right there. You know, they're not everybody's favorite, but if you want chips, they're here. And he picked it up and he goes, Mom, I can't eat these. These are expired chips.

And I was like, fucking chips are expired. They're nothing but preservatives. How could they possibly ever expire? But the little shit wouldn't eat a bag of chips because it was expired. I just thought that was ridiculous. Chips don't expire. All they are is preservatives.

So at my house, I have zero problem. The only thing like milk, dairy, cheese. Of course. Absolutely. I don't want to. I mean, the water expiration, it just sends me into orbit. It's total fraud. Water doesn't expire. No. And the people that buy into this and would throw out water because they think it's expired is just breathtaking, really. It really is. You know? Yeah.

I've had it. I've had it. All right. Welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. She's the star of our show, America's greatest legal mind that always has cock on the brain. Kylie, how are you? I'm good. I never have cock on the brain. What are the beauties of being a lesbian?

I've got a couple of reviews I'm going to read you. Okay. All right. This one is five stars from Cintia15 titled Happy Place. And they write, I don't know who needs to hear this, but I just came off of my social media break to take a drive in my convertible and crank up the volume on this podcast. Heading to the gym to video myself doing burpees so I can post them on Instagram to my 10 followers. If you're on a hashtag journey looking for your hashtag happy place, this podcast is it. Love you, ladies.

That is just a greatest hit. That's what I was going to say. It's the greatest hits of all the things we've had it with. I love it. Yeah. Filming herself doing burpees. I'll tell you what I noticed on the internet. A lot of people have a happy place, like hashtag happy place on like making fun of it. I love it. I feel like we kind of started a mini movement. They started the hashtag unhappy place. I like it. Yeah. I do like it. Are you at your hashtag happy place right now or hashtag unhappy place? I'm at my hashtag happy place because I'm with you.

Oh, that's so sweet. With not a tinge of sarcasm. Zero sarcasm. Five stars titled, I shouldn't do this, dot, dot, dot. And they wrote, I really shouldn't leave five stars. I saw Jennifer punch an Amish woman at Target for the last Stanley Tumblr. Not cool.

I love that. You know, I like these listeners because it's number one, it shows that they're listening. Engaged. And they reference multiple episodes all in one review. That's the kind of listener we want. Engaged, brainwashed, indoctrinated into this petty grievance cult of ours. I'll tell you what, I've said it before. I'm going to say it again. Our listeners are smart. They're smart people. They're clever people.

And you know what that means by definition? They're not MAGA. Right. I mean, it's just a through line. Smart, clever, impossible to be MAGA. Speaking of MAGA, I believe that you sent me a tweet that I found rather interesting that I knew our listener would also like to sink their teeth into. This just, I mean, this is just exhibit A for hypocrisy. This is a state representative from the great state of Tennessee.

His name is Scott Desjardins. He was caught on tape asking his mistress to get an abortion. Also, in his divorce proceedings, he revealed he and his former wife have had two abortions, which I don't know why that was in the divorce proceedings, but that's a non-issue.

Oh, and then he announced that God has forgiven him and voted in Congress to ban abortions for other Americans. This is a fucking hypocrite that I hate.

Someone needs to take his ED medicine away. And here's the thing for everybody to know. I don't give a shit if he's had 50,000 abortions with 50,000 different women. I don't give a shit. It's not my business. But for this lying liar who lies a lot to vote against a woman's right to choose when he himself has been a party to three abortions,

I cannot fucking stand him. Oh, totally. I'm looking at the picture of him. Total gyrator. He's a gyrator. I'm sure it takes 55 ED medicines to get him to climax. I mean, it is just unbelievable. These guys and the women that submit to these men because they think...

It's all God's will. It's such performative bullshit. And I'm just going to say I have had it up to my eyeballs with the Republican Party's desire to merge church and state. Could not agree more. I have had it. I'm not a religious person, and that is my right to not be a religious person. I find the majority of these right wing evangelicals to be nothing short of hypocrites.

that get butthurt about really petty things like premarital sex or what restrooms people are using or drag queens. And then I find them bullying gay people in the LGBTQIA plus community and further marginalize trans children as though it's their business, yet they don't give a shit.

about all of these pastors and all of these priests that have decades-long sex scandals wherein the church is complicit in covering it up. And I think it's disgusting. And I think this sect of Americans is the biggest threat to the country right now because this is where all of the MAGA people preside. This is where the doomsday preppers are. These are the rapture preppers. These are the people that...

Oh, I don't want these people to get abortions, but I get to get an abortion. I'm different. I'm special. These are the people that make fun of people and demean people who have low income jobs and work minimum wage jobs because they think they're so much cooler and better. And it's it's disgusting. And it's just so incredibly dangerous. OK, in that same vein.

You may remember a video that went viral of this woman on a flight from Dallas to Orlando. Her name is Miss Gomas. And she stands up and she goes to the edge of the plane like that because she's getting escorted off. And she says, you can sit on this plane and you can die with them or not. I'm not going to. And then she points to somebody at the back of the plane and says, that plane.

Motherfucker is not real. Okay. So it goes viral. Okay. And then in these right wing circles, they all, you know, all the MAGA preppers, they start getting all conspiracy theory. Like, what was she talking about? Who is the person that wasn't real? It's deep state. It's lizard people. Yeah.

So she's really like all these conspiracy theories in the far right, like, I guess, truth, social Donald Trump sect of the United States of America. This thing still lived on. I saw it like the week it went viral and then I never thought about it again. Well, all of these people are deep diving into all of this in between Bible studies, I assume. And so recently she's reappeared, okay, on Twitter and she posts a...

an image of herself in an American flag bikini. Naturally. And she's holding a can of conservative dad's ultra right beer, which describes itself as 100% woke free American beer. Okay. These people are not smart. So now she is a MAGA influencer. Yeah.

Of course she is. She's schizophrenic. She's dumb. And she parades around in an American flag bikini. Of course she's MAGA. I'd be shocked if she wasn't MAGA. And I don't know who needs to hear this. Probably none of our listeners, but for the hate listeners...

Calling liberals woke does not hurt our feelings. No, it's a compliment. It is not even calling us libtards. It does not hurt our feelings. Nothing you all say hurts our feelings because we don't fall prey to being triggered so easily. And here's what I think. I think the woman...

With the American flag bikini. I think she's talking about a fictional character she can't see that only she can see in her brain. So the fact that MAGA would exalt her to being some type of influencer surprises me zero. Right. I mean, look at who they're at. Look at who their leader is. Look who bitches about drag queens when he is in bad drag. Yeah. Yeah.

And I hate to even compare his look to a drag queen because it's insulting to drag queens. But he's got a full face of makeup. I've never seen eyebrows more out of control in my life. He runs around with the worst roots I've ever seen. He needs Botox, fillers, Ozempic, all of it. And they all think he is just the most handsome six-pack abs I've ever seen in my life. And bad hair. Let me segue to our next guest.

Donald Trump flies everywhere on a private plane because he says that he is a billionaire. Right. But a billionaire that is constantly on the Internet begging for money. And I don't know about you, but I don't see other millionaires begging.

on the internet begging for money unless they are evangelical preachers. Those are the only other people that I see that are begging for money. And Trump does this. So obviously he flies private everywhere. So he was not going to relate to us common folk about the laundry list of grievances that we have when you enter an airport. But I found someone, and I think everybody's going to know exactly who this account is.

We followed each other for a long time. She's a great listener of the podcast and friend of the podcast. And she runs the viral Instagram page that I think is nothing short of a public service called Passenger Shaming. Yeah.

So Kylie connected with the woman who runs this. She is a former police officer, paramedic and flight attendant and the creator of Passenger Shaming on Instagram. And her name is Sean Kathleen and we can call her SK. So let's get Sean Kathleen on I've Had It to bitch nonstop about the fuckery going on on airplanes.

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Fantastic. We just got done traveling for five days and I cannot tell you how excited I am to talk about all the airport grievances. So you were a flight attendant and so you had a front row seat reserved.

to all of the entitlement and bizarre behavior that happens when people enter an airplane. And one thing I have to say I really like about flight attendants is I like the order that they have to keep and that they are in a position where the customer is not always right. Because I think that's a really enabling process where it...

makes people think that they can abuse service industry people and flight attendants don't tolerate that. They don't. And I will tell you, you get a lot of passengers that do come on and just assume that you're a service person, right? It's like people, I used to joke and people would say like, what do you do for a living? I'm like, pour soda. Like, I mean, I pour Coke. It's cool.

But obviously I will tell you in my training, we didn't even learn any of service. Right. It's safety. Of course. Safety is always first and then passenger comfort. 100%. But the people still treat you like shit. They don't, it doesn't matter. There are a lot of shitty people out there.

Okay. So SK, we always email with our guests prior to having them on and they send us a couple of things that they've had it with. Yours is a full page. I love the pent up frustration that you had in this email to send to us. So let's just go right.

Right from item number one, what have you had it with? Well, I don't have the list in front of me, but I will tell you one thing that I've absolutely had it with. And you touched on this, Jen, the sense of entitlement of passengers. I've absolutely had it with that. And that goes from the boarding process, you know, the guy or, you know, who stops in the middle of the aisle while a hundred people are behind them, you know, and they're like getting out all their shit. Yeah.

you know, that, that guy to treating the airplane, like it's your living room. Right. Let's stop like with putting feet everywhere and body parts on shit that we don't own. That's I can't with it's honestly, it's just the,

All it just encompasses everything. It's the sense of entitlement. It's like, hey, I paid a few hundred dollars for tickets so I can treat you like shit. I could treat the crew like shit. I could treat my fellow passengers like shit. And the airplane that's eighty five million dollars like shit. So.

I've absolutely fucking had it with that. So what made you start passenger shaming and when did you start it? So I started back in 2007. So I think is that like 17 years or something? I don't know. It's been forever. I started out as a blog called Rants of the Sassy Stew, which me as a sassy stewardess, you know, ranting about passengers.

I had had other jobs in the service industry, even believe it or not, as a police officer at age 21. This was when it was cool and it was cool. It was okay to do it. And a paramedic, but I had never been, let me just say this, the passengers are worse than being a cop. Exactly.

It's so fucking bad. I had this one lady. This is one of the things that started it. I had a lady. This is two and a half hours into a flight, okay? And she rings the call button. I go over and I'm like, oh yeah, can I help you? And she's like, are we moving? She literally said, are we moving? Like, I didn't even know what to say. Of course, now I'm like, no, we're just hovering. We're waiting for the earth to rotate so that when we get to the spot, we'll just land. It's cool.

So I'm not even joking. So that, so I started journaling like literally during the flight. So I'd run to the back, you know, galley and just start writing down some stuff. And my colleagues would say they would start reading it. And it was like, had a comedic tone. I mean, not for me, just from the shit that was happening. And, and then the photograph started rolling in and I said, you know what, let me just do like a little sister site or an offshoot.

And then I called it passenger shaming. And then there you go. The rest is history. And what is, what have been your most viral videos on passenger shaming Instagram? The one that finally broke me now keep in mind, former paramedic. Okay. So like I've seen everything.

Is a guy who is sitting in the seat. Not sure. You just see like him from the waist down and you just see his leg and it's the most gnarly wound ever. And it's seeping. It's that, that one. Yeah. That one.

That hit a lot of people. I think I even captioned it like the one that finally broke me, you know, like 10 years later finally happened. Yeah, that one was that one was pretty bad. Honestly, like a lot of them are just the things that people see on a daily basis that they can't handle, you know, that, you know, that we all deal with, like the guy who stands up and, you know, or girl that stands up as soon as we land and, you know, people that bum rush the aisle and, you know, just like something

That's her. She's a bum rusher. I am. She's a bum rusher. I want, I want to stand up so badly because I feel like my circulation is not good. And I feel like, am I getting blood clots from sitting here for so long? I need to get up. And I just, I've got to stand up like sitting for so long. I'm not a very sedentary person and I don't do that very well. And I stand up and when pumps and I travel for our tour, um,

oftentimes I like the window and I put her on the aisle and then she is the slowest riser on the planet. And I'm literally like, get up. SK, that's a lie. I am just not going to bum rush the people in front of me. I realized that you exit by row. I don't bum rush. I'm an early riser. But you rise up and start moving towards your stuff. And it's like, I am not a bum rusher. Are you going to take out the eight rows in front of us? I don't.

You kind of do. That is kind of do. That is you kind of do. That is a lie. A total lie. She is a lying liar. No, she's a lying liar. Okay. Let me tell you this, SK. This just happened to me this last flight trip. Okay. So there's this guy. He's in a wheelchair. I don't know why he's in a wheelchair, but he has on flip flops. Let me just talk about his feet. They are so fucking gross. Like the fungus, it's all over his feet. And he flips his flip flops off. Now, thank God I wasn't on a flight with him.

And he's going through security. And I'm just like, I think we should have socks be mandatory through TSA and on a flight. What's going on with people with bare feet on airplanes? It's disgusting. It's so disgusting. And I think that needs to be a mandate. Socks. You have to fucking wear socks. And I'm not a fan of removing the shoes. However...

Because this becomes a whole thing, right? Because people are like, oh, I can't take my shoes off. I'm like, well, okay, you can under certain circumstances. You could be in first class and a lot of business class. They give you slippers or socks, right? So with the intention of removing your shoes. So if you have clean socks, you don't smell, you don't take your foot and put it up like next to my head, or you keep in your little space and do that, I'm okay with it. But once...

Nobody wants to be seeing your nasty bare feet. And that goes for flip flops. I'm sorry. And by the way, that is a safety issue. God forbid you have to get out quickly. You know, we'll prevent egress like rapid egress. You got your flip flops flying all over the place. No, that's an absolute not. Let's talk about the way some passengers treat passengers.

flight attendants. And I have seen some passengers, particularly during the mask time where everybody had a mask up,

And I saw passengers treat these flight attendants as though they personally made this rule about the masks. And I saw some flight attendants fight back, I mean, so brilliantly. But it's really disgusting how flight attendants are treated by a lot of the passengers. Agreed.

Agreed. Agreed. You're a human being. Like you should know how to treat people like the way that, that pass them. Some of the passengers treat flight attendants. I would never say to anybody that,

I had a guy tell me one time, well, this is no joke. Obviously I'm still traumatized by it. I was on the cart, you know, and there was another flight attendant in front of me and we're doing our beverage service. And he was pissed off that he couldn't get up, you know, cause we were in front of him. And I said, you know, just give me a second. And then he started yelling. And then he, for some reason decided to say that, well, you can't move it. You obviously don't go to the gym, you know? Oh,

Oh, my God. And I was like, oh, my God. The other flight attendant cried for me. I was so pissed off. I was like, wow, like the level of disrespect is pretty bad out there. And so, I mean, God, it doesn't take a lot. Even if you don't want to be kind, just don't say anything. Just get on the plane, sit down and shut up.

No, I agree. Okay. Here's what was my favorite part of COVID travel is when people would go bananas and those flight attendants would duct tape them to their seats. I was like, you fucking go good for you. If you're going to act like shit, we're going to treat you like shit.

Do you remember those? I do. I remember seeing a couple of those. And there's just in general, I think there's just some people you'd like to duct tape to see, especially like the rogue child. We're not talking about babies. Babies are excused. Everybody's miserable, including the baby when a baby starts crying. But the child that is probably five years old and up that is unruly on an airplane running around and the parent thinks it's a cute show for all the other passengers. Right.

It's not cute. They would come over to us to ask if we would babysit them. Shut up. No. I'm working a job right now. And then, you know, then now would you want me to have like 150 pissed off people that aren't getting their meals and their shit, like whatever, because I'm over here babysitting your eight-year-old because you started your vacation as soon as you got on the plane? Absolutely.

No, I mean, I will say I, when I see that I'm sitting down and if there's a baby, a couple of rows around me, I'm like, oh shit. Because I know that I'm going to get it, you know, I'm going to get the screams, but I do feel bad for the parents because nobody likes a crying baby, especially the parent. And the parent has to take the baby home. Right. We're, we get off.

Pumps, doing the podcast, our other jobs, being mothers, maintaining friendships. Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.com.

After I do it, I feel so much more centered, so much more grounded, and so much more functioning. Listener, if you're thinking about starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire and get matched with a licensed therapist, and you can switch therapist at any time for no additional charge.

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Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.com.

After I do it, I feel so much more centered, so much more grounded, and so much more functioning. Listener, if you're thinking about starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire and get matched with a licensed therapist, and you can switch therapist at any time for no additional charge.

Find your social sweet spot with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com slash had it today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash had it. Pumps doing the podcast, our other jobs, being mothers, maintaining friendships.

Sometimes I just feel like I have burnout, like I cannot face another meeting, another conversation. And I realize I'm just so disconnected from the world that I need to take the time to schedule a session with my therapist from BetterHelp.com.

After I do it, I feel so much more centered, so much more grounded, and so much more functioning. Listener, if you're thinking about starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire and get matched with a licensed therapist, and you can switch therapist at any time for no additional charge.

Find your social sweet spot with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com slash had it today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash had it. Okay, we're going to play a game with you called Had It or Hit It. I love this game. Oh my God. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it.

I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Had it or hit it, flight attendant comedy routines during the safety procedure. Okay, hot take.

Had it? What the fuck is that? I've had it. You're not funny. It's embarrassing. Listen, can you imagine if you're the other flight attendant on that? Like I've had to work with people like that before. It makes me, oh my God, I respect they're cringing. It's so awful. Had it. That's funny you say that because I've been on those flights when the flight attendant thinks...

that he is the funniest person since Dave Chappelle. And I can just see their coworker just like melting. Like they're just, they want to make it stop, but they don't know how. And I always think, you know, I wonder if you just have to say,

You're just not that funny. The problem is the passengers on the plane, the dorky passengers, feed the stray cat and they start laughing. And then the flight attendant feels emboldened and they continue the comedy routine. They change it up.

They elaborate on it flight after flight. And so this happens a lot on Southwest Airlines, which is probably one of my least favorite airlines to fly on. But I do say they do take off and land pretty much when they say they're going to. But these flight attendants are out of control with the comedy routine. And even if they said something that I personally thought was funny, I will use every muscle in my face to

to show nothing other than disdain for the entire thing, because I will not enable it in any way, shape or form, because I'm just trying to get from point A to point B. I'm not at a comedy club. I don't like the fusion of these things. It's like Mexican Chinese food. They're not meant to be together. Right. The safety routine performance. It's not a comedy show. I'm not in the mood to laugh. I'm trying to be as invisible as possible.

I'm like you, I literally am just like this. I don't use every muscle in my face. I just kind of literally just like do the hands and my face at my hands. Cause I can't. And it's exactly what you said, because you know what? Then somebody videotapes that, then it goes online and then it's a tick tock. And then everybody's like, Oh my God, the funniest flight attendant ever. And then guess what? Everybody sends it to me and I don't want that shit. Stop sending it.

Stop. I don't care about the funny flight attendant. I'm a big comedian person. Like, I mean, I love meeting comedy fan. Right. And I love to go to comedy shows, but I don't want to see it on the fucking plane. I want to just stand up. My fantasy is when they start the comedy routine to just stand up and say, put a fucking sock in it. Knock it off. Shut up. If you were funny, you'd be at a comedy club instead of on a plane. All right. Had it or hit it. Mile high club. Ooh.

I'll say hit it because that goes with it, right? You hit it. You have to say hit it. Did you ever during your time as a flight attendant observe any slap and tickles going on in an airplane? Yes, I did. Really? Yeah.

Okay. So there was one time, there was this one time on a plane and they were, it was a couple in the back and it was a fairly empty flight and we were descending. So, you know, have to go through and do like this safety, you know, just make sure everybody's good and in their seats and everything. And, and I started to walk back and I saw this lady's head go down and

And I just turned around and I was like, I'm sure they're fine. And then I just left. And then I went back and I sat in my jump seat. We landed. I was like, what's happening? They had a blanket. There was nobody else back there. I was like, whatever. I saw recently on your page, you posted there was a couple and they were lying down together and they were totally pretzeled.

up or their legs were pretzeled. And it was, I saw that on your page and it was just like total PDA, total lack of self-awareness. And it looked like they'd been that way for a long time and continued to, but it was pretty much full blown dry humping. It's disgusting. It's gross. Like around people now, that's the only time that that's happened to me, like in the cabin. But if somebody, you know, it's not busy and there's, I see one or two people go into the

I really didn't care. I was like, I have to deal with, you know, 150 other Yahoo's like right now, like, we'll just let them have their, let's be honest, it's probably going to be three minutes. Also, I mean, can you go in there alone, right? How disgusting are laboratories and how tiny are they? I don't know how people are doing it. Disgusting. I'm dying to be a member of the mile high club. All right. Had it or hit it. Dogs on airplanes.

If it's not a service animal, had it.

Absolutely not. No, I can't. If it's let's put it this way. If it's a most airlines are moving away from that, right? Like the emotional support animal. And I'm doing air quotes. And I'm not not saying that because it's not a thing it is. But the people who got the fake, you know, documents, they fucked it up for everybody. And so a lot of airlines are removing that possibility for people who really do need them. She did that. That's okay. She does that too.

She did that. She takes those dogs and she puts service animal jackets on them. And you can't ask. Moving along, moving along. Had it or hit it. People that recline their seats on airplanes. Okay. Hit it because you know what? If they recline, you have the option to do so. I know that's like not a thing, but I do have a caveat to it.

If you're going to recline, please do so by looking behind you, making sure it's not somebody who's six foot seven or has a tray table down with their food or they're doing a thing. So...

There's a process behind it, right? So I've been in the position where I was going as a flight attendant. They reposition us for different flights and to work different flights. And I'm sitting there in my white blouse and my blazer, and I have one of those green tea, matcha green tea lattes. It's like the color of this. Mm-hmm.

And some lady, older lady just like hit the button and just went bam. And it just exploded all over. Yeah. So let's not do that. That's what she does. I lean back and she doesn't ever looked. I mean, that's a great point. I never do it in one big bam. You're an older lady that does it in one big bam movement. It's exactly, you know what? I bet you who did that was pumps. Yeah. But I would have

have spilled it on myself. We were walking out to do a show the other day and I spilled that straight down the front of me on a white outfit. That's just, that's just how I roll. Okay. Last one, SK. Yes. People that, and there's going to be several nuances to this, but people who put their hair

Over the backs of their seat, which would mean that they are violating the space of the person sitting behind them and people that are arm hogs. And so how did her hit it with that stuff? And let's talk about all the personal space that you get as a seat ticket seat holder.

Absolutely. Had it fucking had it. Listen, there's no reason for you to have your hair. Like, listen, we get you get like, you're all cute. You got a nice, beautiful hair. We love that for you, but I don't want it over my in-flight entertainment. I don't want your hairs dripping down into my food or, you know, my drink or whatever the case is. That's an absolute not that goes back to my whole spatial awareness. Like where people just don't know, like what they're like,

Like you've, I find it hard to believe that you've never been on a plane before, but I'm sure there are some people, but yeah.

Would you do that? Like at your doctor's office, you know, like put your foot up on a, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. On a wall. Now, the other thing that you mentioned, the armrests. Okay. We can settle this right now from the passenger shaming lady. If you're in the middle seat, you get both. That is, if you're in the middle seat, you get both. And because, you know, aisle person has the aisle, window has the window, middle seat. I think that's,

That is like, you know, I always talk about that role. That's a passenger shaming role is an absolute. You get both of them in the center. We'll help you message that out. Listen up, listener. If you're in the middle row, you get both armrests. Window gets the right and or it depends on what side you're on, I guess. And then the aisle gets the aisle side. And then that is it. Let me ask you this. What's the deal with up and back? Like if you share an armrest.

Is one supposed to go up and one back? That's kind of how I always try to work it, but I didn't know there's some kind of rule. I don't think there's really a rule, maybe depending on the size of the person, if it's a big guy or you know what I mean, or if you're like a little... I don't know, but I do the same thing. You kind of usually just kind of figure it out, but then of course, then you end up with the person on passenger shaming who's like losing their shit because...

I mean, there was a guy who literally just did this to get his arm. It's actually God, that one was so funny because I was like, you're doing everything that we all want to do. But as a just a regular person who travels now, I do it. I don't care. I don't care. I have zero fucks left at this point.

My advanced age, zero bucks left. And I will just, and you know what? Because that's the thing. I don't work for an airline. So I can say whatever I want. And I also know like what not to do, right? You know, so I can still, you know, continue to fly for the rest of my life. Not on a no fly list. Yeah. One final little grievance I'd just like to air since Meemaw was talking about me wanting to stand up early, right? As we land.

Meemaw is the person that sits next to you that has her brightness on her phone all the way up as high as it'll possibly go. And we recently were on tour and Meemaw was in the middle seat, Kylie on one side, myself on the other.

And she had that brightness up all the way in about, I think it was 45, 50 minutes into the flight. I couldn't fucking take it anymore. I just went, swiped down and turned the brightness all the way down. No, but I appreciated it because I don't realize it. My eyes are so bad. Like until she did it, I didn't realize how bright it was. My kids turn my brightness down all the time.

So I appreciated it, though. I didn't think it was rude. I was glad you did because I was like, oh, my God, she's so right. You know, I just don't think about it. I just want it known for the permanent record. I'm still I still want to get my blood circulating when the plane lands. But I do not. There is no bum rushing. It is a standing sans bum rush.

Meemaw's narrative earlier made it sound like I was a fucking bull in Pamplona stampeding up to the front. That is, these are lies. These are lies that are going to be- She always wants to be first. She wants to be the first one out of her seat, first one down the aisle, first one. First, first, first, first. I get that a lot and I appreciate you putting that on the permanent record

because that does need to be added. It's if you absolutely need to get up and there's certain aircrafts, I know this is like super geeky, like on an airbus, you can probably, you know, stand up in your seat area, but like that, that, you know, 16, 18 inch aisle doesn't won't hold, you know, 200 people. Right. So, you know, if you need to get up and stretch, I've had a couple of spinal surgeries and, you know, so people will be like, I need to get up and move and dah, dah, dah. And I'm like, okay,

I've had a couple of surgeries on my spine. I have hardware in there. I live, I'm still alive. You know what I mean? And I don't get up like the minute that we- I'm going to continue to do so despite the bullying from you and Meemaw. I'm going to continue to get up. But this whole, all of these allegations about the bum rush are lies. Okay. I'm going to give you an example. We were on a flight and

We're getting in early. So why these people had their panties in a wad, I do not know. But the flight attendant said, and I kind of loved that she was passive aggressive about it. She was like, I know we're arriving early, but some people are worried about their connecting flight. So other passengers, please let those people go first. So I'm sitting there waiting for the fucking...

about time people that even though we got there early that want to get off the plane and she's like pushing me, pushing me. And I'm like, I was trying to let them go because they're got their panties in a wad. All of that is true, but none of that equates to bum rushing. She would have bum rushed if I would let her stay. I'm on the outside. I'm saving her from the bum rush. It's the bum rush allegation. The standing up and me pushing me ma along. It is a service to everybody in the airport that I'm pushing me ma along. No,

We appreciate that. You can be too slow. You know what I mean? You can be too slow. I'm just right. Okay. We like it. Just right. I get it. You guys have a good, a perfect dynamic. Just sound like two old bitter lesbians. Yes. We love a bitter lesbian. And we're down for it. And I love that. Well, but yeah, I would say for sure.

If you could add that to the permanent record, I appreciate that. We will. We'll update it. All of us. I think it's for all of us. Yes. SK, we love your page. I'm so happy that we got to meet via Zoom and to have you on the pod. We always message each other on Instagram and I feel like we're all kindred spirits. And I know that our listeners loved this episode because you just can get right down and dirty with all the petty grievances. And we cannot thank you enough. Listener, follow SK at...

passenger shaming and prepare to be razzle dazzled by the breathtaking fuckery and incompetence that takes place on airplanes. If you're down with fuckery and assholes on airplanes, we are the place to go. SK, thank you so, so much. I loved it. Good to meet you. Bye. I love her Instagram page because it's a way to tattle tell. Absolutely.

Absolutely. And here's the deal. I think that we don't shame people enough, the right people. We shame marginalized group. We shame poor people. We need to shame assholes. Yeah, that's right. We need like public shaming of fucking dicks. And she does it. And that's what, there we go with dicks again. There we go. SK, that's what SK does. She is publicly shaming these entitled, horrible, terrible people that get on these airplanes. Yeah.

Of which I am not one because these allegations about me being a bum rusher like some goddamn bull in Spain are false. It's a it's a it's totally false. And I reject it wholeheartedly. I would like to thank everybody for tuning in to our podcast today. She is. I would just like some truth to it. It's true that I stand up the bum rushing. Kylie, do I bum rush?

You don't bum rush. Thank you. I will say she... I stand, but I do not cut my seat. She pushes me. You're not next to her. She pushes me. The bum rushing allegation is that I jump ahead of the people in front of me. You try. You don't try to... No, no, no. You said that I would be nine rows ahead. You wouldn't be if they would let you rewind the tape. They wouldn't let me because I wouldn't do that. You try to get out. I wouldn't do that, Meemaw. I get up so that I can stand up to avoid blood clots. But you get right out.

Pardon me for being concerned about my health and blood clots. I'm very worried about blood clots. It keeps me up at night worried about these goddamn blood clots. Listen, listen up.

I just want to say I'm not a bum rusher. Kylie just confirmed I'm not a bum rusher. You're a fucking bugger. You're a fucking annoying person with the plane lands. You're an annoying person with the plane lands. Full stop. Tell them when they'll see us. We will see you next Tuesday or Thursday or both. This conversation will be continued on our bonus episode on Patreon right now. We're in. We are going to finally get to the deep, dark bottom of pubs. Pathological. I think.

I think someone death protests too much. We will see you next Tuesday or Thursday or both.

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