A Place for Pettiness
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So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, Gatriots, Vatriots. Listen up, America and international listeners. We are just right here getting close to the end of the race. And I think the first part of this episode, we should get back to our brand and just let everybody have a small respite.

Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay. What I have fucking had it with is I have had so many people now that my kids are all gone that say, how do you like an empty nest? Like kind of sad about it. I go, oh my God, I fucking love it. And their reaction to me saying that is like, you do? Like something's wrong with me.

Because I'm happy my kids are no longer living in my house full time. Like I'm the problem.

Do you think that's weird? I think it's really weird. And I, for one, am 100% with you because as parents, what you're doing, Pumps, is so healthy because you're not making your whole life being kid-centered. It's their time to leave the nest. You're still their mom. Right. They're still your children, but they're going on and spreading their wings. And you've done your job. I do.

And I'm tired. You know what I mean? I raised three kids by myself. I'm tired. Depeche Mode, the song, Enjoy the Silence. Is that Depeche Mode? Yes. I'm enjoying the silence. Listen, I've got one more year left. And I tell people, they're like, how old are your kids? I'm like, I have a senior in college and a senior in high school. And they do the same thing. Oh, and I'm like, oh, it's just one year. And I am liberated. Liberated. I mean, it is so nice.

I didn't have to take my trash to the street this last week because I only had two bags in it. My laundry is not overwhelming. My house is fucking clean. I can do whatever I want. If I have to walk from the shower to the laundry room butt naked, swing for the fences. I can do it. I unpacked the other night and I had my top off because I was trying to get my laundry going and I'm just like running through my house naked. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

You did topless unpacking? I did topless unpacking. Let me ask you this. Did you ever just throw in a shimmy for grins and giggles? No, but God, I should have. That's how I felt. Yeah. As you got some dirty clothes out of the suitcase, you could do a shot like you're a basketball player into the hamper. And then once it's made, just shimmy the dragons. Yeah. I mean, I might get a black eye. Because the only people that are going to see it are your dogs. That's the thing. I was like, every time it hits me that it's okay for me to walk somewhere in my house not dressed...

I feel so happy. My only suggestion here is to introduce the topless shimmy. I'm going to. And then I think this is a home run. But...

To a larger point, I think we need to change the language surrounding empty nesting because there is this projection that people put on particularly women. Oh, you're going to be so sad. Oh, you're going to be so lonely. What's your purpose going to be? And instead, make it celebratory. You did it. Right. You raised your kids and they left the nest and now you get to enjoy midlife. You're not old.

You still have a lot of life left to live. No, I saw you shrug. I want to change the language that midlife is old. Look at us. We started new careers midlife. And I want to change all of that language, particularly for women, that midlife is old, that we are accepting the language that because we're not a breeding age anymore, that we don't matter, that because our kids are out of the house, that we're supposed to be depressed. We need to change that language. You're 54. That is not old.

You just started a new career and you're America's greatest legal mind. America's legal eagle. Just started a new law firm. Meet Kurt and Meemaw. You're doing, you're introducing the topless shimmy around the house to women across the globe. I'm telling you, we have got to change this language for women. It is okay that your kids leave. It means everybody did their job. Right. Everybody did their job. I'm happy about it.

Sometimes maybe I feel like a sociopath, but not in this area. I don't think it is. I think that it is a time to celebrate. I am. Because look, women are always checkmated. If your kids leave, they project onto you that you're supposed to be sad. But if your kid still lives at home, then they also give you this...

oh, this despair that you didn't do your job in getting them out of the house. Women are always checkmated in this situation. And it's, it's, I've had it with that. I think that it's perfectly normal to celebrate. I know how much you love your children. And I also know how much if anybody on the planet deserves a break, it's you. Thank you. All right, let me tell you what I've had it with. I was on Instagram last night. And you know, the little avatar where you're

picture is? Yes. Okay. And then there's like a thought bubble above it. And it says, drop a thought. Here's what I have to say about that. Instagram. I love you. I love Instagram. I love everything about it. I look at it more than any other social media.

We don't need to drop thoughts. No. People are already dropping too much on Instagram. We already are dropping way too much. We don't need to know what people are thinking. We already see what they're doing.

the performative nature of it all. We're commenting on people's stories. We don't, let's keep one thing private, your thoughts. Could not agree more. That's on my had it list too. It fucking drives me crazy.

Because I updated because I had to update. I didn't know what was happening. And now it's making me – it always is like begging me for my thoughts. And I'm like, you don't want my thoughts? I don't want to give my thoughts. Leave my fucking thoughts out of this. Right. Listen to I've Had It podcast if you want our thoughts. Right. That's a real easy way to get my thoughts. I just – I don't want to know what people are thinking. I just – I think we have to say some things – can we just keep some things private? Like our thoughts. Right.

Can we just keep the fact that Pumps wants to topless shimmy around the house for her French bulldog and her Siberian husky? Pun intended. Wait, wait.

You know, can we just keep some stuff private? I mean, do you really want to know what some of these freaks are thinking? Fuck no, I don't want to know. No. I don't care. I don't want to know. And if you decide you want to know, do you need to know? Again, no. No. All right. Instagram, we love you. Stop. We don't need to know what people are thinking. You already have the images. You already have the stories. The descriptions. We already have all the fuckery on there.

Stop with the thoughts. Stop with it. Stop begging people for their thoughts because they're worthless. Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. I think we have a great podcast. I do too. That's my thought. My thought, maybe we should get on Instagram right now and say our thoughts are we're great.

Our thoughts are we are nailing it. Our thoughts are- Killed it. Welcome the topless shimmy to America. That's right. To all empty nesters across the globe. Okay. Kathy, Kylie. Hi. I think everybody's confused. I want to state some things on the permanent record. My name is Jennifer, a caller on one of our voice memo episodes a long time ago just-

It was like, I love Pumps and Jessica. And then, of course, everybody loved it. And it was a great troll, but I don't think she intentionally trolled. So sometimes I'm called Jessica. We know all of the names that we have for Pumps. We know all of them. And then just last month, Pumps says, as we're preparing for an episode, hey, Kathy, will you please get me my notes? Yes.

To which I responded, who's Kathy? And she goes, oh, I meant Kylie. So now we start calling her Kathy. So for those of you that stick with us all the time, you know all of the names. For the new listeners, we don't know who we are. We don't know what we're doing here. I specifically don't know who anybody is ever, including myself. We don't know why we're here. My own Instagram, every comment now on any Instagram post is,

Great job, Kathy. You look great, Kathy. I love this, Kathy. I get it, too. I get the Jessica. And then it's so funny that some people will write, her name is Jennifer. Yeah. And then somebody responds, you must be new here. Like, no, it's not. We changed it a long time ago. All right, Kathy, what's going on? Wait, first, before you start.

How many reviews do we have? We set a new goal of 15,000. We have 11,453 reviews. This is a plateau. Yeah. This is a face plant. This is the end of I've Had It podcast. The end is near. Are there any new ones to read? Just a few to choose from. Only a few? Yep. They're rebelling. Okay. So this one is, Hey, Patriots, I wanted to share a story.

I just listened to the episode of all the absolute bullshit that Trump is selling on True Social, and I got a giggle because I work in a bank in North Carolina, and one of his Jesus-loving voters came into the bank with Trump bills. Ha ha ha!

Trying to deposit them thinking they were real currency and got real butt hurt when the teller had to tell him, no, sir, this is fake money that you paid for. It's purely monopoly money. But let's remember, he loves the poorly educated. That's maybe the best eyewitness account ever.

That I've heard in a long time. Because we know the NFT grift, they thought they were receiving baseball card type cards. Yeah. The money, he went in and deposited it and didn't know until that moment it was fake. That's good stuff right there.

I mean, it's really remarkable. It's remarkable and not in a good way. Not in a good way. It's breathtaking that a grown adult that is competent enough to have a bank account that went through the steps to open up a bank account then ordered fake money

With Donable Lecter's face on it and then drove to the bank like it was normal to deposit. You know what we could do? What? Meet Curtin Law dollars. Oh my gosh, yes. Meet Curtin Law dollars and see how many people. Here's the deal. Our listeners are smart. So that would never happen. Yeah. I mean, boom. Okay, we'll end on a five star from Logan Eats Butter. And it's titled, Kylie, this one's for you.

Ha ha!

All in all, quite impressive. I particularly identify with the bossy one's need to end any argument with the last victorious word and the impulse to flaunt my vocabulary to plausibly less eloquent friends. Love, a gay man with autism.

Oh, I love that. It's Logan. I love Logan. Logan, shout out to Logan. Thank you for the compliments and thank you for recognizing me as the boss. Right, as the bossy. I don't think you said boss. I think you said bossy. I'm going to go ahead and just roll with C. Logan, thank you for recognizing me as the boss. Okay, I would like to review some stories in the news. Here is one. And CBS News...

is reporting that airports, coffee shops, restaurants, and stadiums now have self-service kiosks. We all know this. First, it seemed like a high mountain to climb to be able to do it. Now we've all gotten pretty well at executing our own self-checkout. But people are noticing that a lot of these self-checkout machines have begun asking for tips.

They have programmed the devices with preset tip amounts, sometimes at 18% or higher, in hopes of generating more revenue. And what I have to say to this is, first and foremost, obviously it is self-checkout. And if anybody's getting the tip, I'm tipping myself. Right. Not the robot. Sure.

Secondly, this is why regulations are important. And the messaging on the right against regulations is so self-defeating because regulations are put in place to protect the public, the largest numbers of the public. This clearly needs to be regulated. Yes. You cannot tip. The business is trying to skirt the system by not employing a person. So they have a computer. Yes.

That they only buy once and then that's it. So we don't have an actual person that has a job anymore. So they're already skirting the system by not paying the person anymore. And they bought the robot. Now they're trying to grift even further because we're doing the work. Right. We should be tipping ourselves and have us increase their revenue more. This should 1 million percent.

be regulated and outlawed. You cannot tip a self-service computer. Absolutely. And I have had this come up on my screen before. And I was at a self-checkout. And I was like, what the fuck? I didn't know who it would go to. I mean, obviously, I didn't do it. But because we're always in a hurry in life, and we're self-checking out, and you're just pushing buttons, I guarantee you people have erroneously hit that button.

Or somebody that's like super codependent. You know how we all feel when that thing comes up. Yes. Especially when the person's standing on the other side and you're just kind of like, oh, God, what do I do here? And then you could have somebody standing there like, well, did the person that put the paper in here? I mean, who's – because you worry about people not getting paid. That's right. Because nobody on the right will vote for you.

to raise the minimum wage. So you have millions of Americans that live below the poverty line in a first world country, in the richest country in the world. You know, when we traveled to Europe, we went to Europe this summer, Pumps and Me, and it says in the tipping guide, tips aren't necessary in Italy because everyone is paid a livable wage. Yep.

We can't say that here. No, absolutely not. People have to work three jobs. And so it's corporate welfare, the consumer, which, you know, there were times where you and I were broke. And when you have to start tipping all the time on everything and you have, you know, a job and a couple of kids and you're going through a divorce. And listen, listener, Pumps and I have been there. We have been dead ass broke with kids and everything.

failing marriages and really trying to keep our heads above water, that can really, really be problematic. And so to put the burden on the general public to pay these corporations more or to pay their employees more or to tip their computers, it is an egregious grift that can only be compared to selling dollar bills with me, mom, me curtain on them and calling it me curtain dollars. Me curtain dollars. Yeah.

Visit I've had it podcast.com to buy your meet Kurt and me mom legal, legal dollars now. Oh, that's funny. Okay. I, I wish that I could stop reporting on this. I wish that I could, but I can't because the fuckery is only exacerbating and getting worse. And what it is, let me just read to you the headline homecoming moms for Stanley Cubs.

Texas mom starts new trend of tiny cup sized mums. Okay. I'm going to show you this image. So listener, what I'm showing pumps right now is a Stanley cup that has a mom, a home coming mom on the cup. Let me read you what it says. With the start of the school year comes the return of extravagant homecoming decorations and traditions.

But one North Texas mom decided to shake things up by starting a new trend. Homecoming moms, miniature versions made to fit Stanley cups. I hate her. I hate her. Here's the deal. I just want to give an A++ five star 10 out of 10 rating to your dramatic reading. Would you go as far to say that I'm the boss? I would say that you are the bossiest for sure.

The homecoming mungrift. Here's the deal. Those things will sell out. There's no hope. You just pass right on. The mums for the Stanley Cup? People will fucking buy those. There is not a doubt in my mind. Do they buy them with their Trump dollars? Oh, my gosh. That is a great idea. Here's what we do. We message the person in the review.

We find out who the moron MAGA cult member is that tried to deposit the Trump dollars. Right. Connect them with this woman that's making the mums for the Stanley Cups because I don't even need to know. I will state...

with fact, betting my kids' lives on it, my dog's lives on it, that the creator of the mums for the cups is a Trump supporter. Probably we need to know where she was on January 6th would be the only question that I would ask her. There's no question. The science on this is settled. It's no longer a hypothesis. This is all Trumpism in motion. And I do want to point out, what colors, pumps, are the mum? White.

Red, white, and blue. Nailed it. Red, white, and blue. That's right. But listen, don't feel morose, listener. We are taking the eagle back. We're taking the colors back. Red, white, and blue for the eagle. All right. And we're taking the flag back. There's just no question. I mean, I've just had it with the cups. I've had it with the idiocy.

of a percentage of the American public, you can only deposit real U.S. dollars. But that just shows you how much everything has been blurred with this man. Right. The grifting, it's just awful. I would like for you, Kyles, is there any way you could ask her how many Trump dollars that would be and just see if she responds? Reach out to the mom and say...

How many Trump dollars would it take for me to buy that? And just see what the response is. I think it'd be kind of fun. Also, I just want to note, I just looked up how much a Trump bill costs. Just one bill. $14.99. Wait, you spend $14.99 for one fake bill and it has Trump's face where what George Washington's face would be? Yeah, and he's smiling ear to ear. Ear to ear. $14.99. So it's not his mugshot.

Does it say never surrender? It's never surrender dollar while I'm surrendering. It says $1. Oh my God, you guys. I'm so sad. And also, here's the thing. I'm just going to say this. I've had it with tackiness. Tacky has gone way up. These cups with the mums on the cup, we're normalizing tackiness. It's tacky. Let a cup be a cup.

Let a mom be a mom. A cup doesn't need a backpack. A cup doesn't need a mom. I've had it with all of that. And the tacky shit that is being sold on the right. Did you see where they had a MAGA fashion show? Oh, I saw it. It was a fashion don't. It's what it was. It was like you have been arrested for capital fashion abuse. It was sound the sirens APB. And

The fashion police needed to come and arrest all of them and straight to jail. Straight to jail. It was some of the worst that I've ever seen. Quit normalizing tackiness, Maga. I agree. I mean, this is what happens when people have no culture.

They embrace this tacky riffraff and knickknack. It's riffraff, knickknack culture. For sure. Gone awry. Gone way overboard. All right. Speaking of class, welcome to I've Had It. I've already welcomed everyone here. Yeah. All right. Just wanted to draw that split screen distinction. That's right. Okay. Listen up, listener. We have a guest and her name is Molly Jongfast. I have followed her for years on Twitter. Yes.

She is a Vanity Fair special correspondent and the host of Fast Politics podcast and an MSNBC contributor. Pumps and I met her in an elevator at the DNC, and we both were kind of starstruck. Totally. Oh, my God, Molly Jung Fast. And, you know, sometimes when you meet people that you've known, but they don't know you. Right.

And then sometimes they're mean and it kind of breaks your heart. Not Molly. No, she, it was unbelievable how sweet she was. Immediately sweet. We were like, oh my God, we're huge fans of yours. Would you please be on our podcast? She was like, oh my gosh, yes. Let's exchange phone numbers. Let's follow each other. And so it's always so nice when you have a parasocial relationship with somebody and then you meet them in person and everything's confirmed that you had good taste in that person originally. Yes, she is.

First of all, she's smart. I love watching her on MSNBC. I like reading her articles. And she is a lovely human being. Excellent. I like it. Okay, let's welcome Molly. Listener, this may come as a total shock to you, but Pumps and I have not always been this pulled together and rock solid.

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All right, listener, here she is, our new best friend that we met in an elevator at the DNC, Molly Jong Fast. Molly, how are you?

I am good. I, you know, we were just talking for a minute before we started recording about how we met. And you guys were when I heard what you do and and where you live and who you speak to in our very targeted media environments. I was like, oh, my God, these women are doing God's work. Yeah.

Thank you. It's especially the part about where we live. That makes the odd men out for sure. Okay. We have to ask you because we ask every guest, what have you had it with?

You know, what have I had it with? I've had it with false equivalencies. I've had it with, you know, Harris has a housing plan and Donald Trump is going to deport 10 million American citizens because they're never going to check. Right. I mean, absolutely.

And, you know, his numbers of how many illegal immigrants there are in this country, sometimes he says 14 million, sometimes he says 25 million. The number is closer to 10. And a lot of them have been in this country for years and years and years and have children who are legal. Again, I'm using that in quotes.

So, I'm sick of the false equivalency. Deporting 10 million people is not the same as a $5,000 or $25,000 credit for people buying their first homes, right? These kind of authoritarian tax are not the same as just normal progressive policies.

What do you think about what is referred to now as sane washing? So we see these speeches from Trump.

where it is clear that he has diminished, very diminished cognitive ability. And he rambles and he can't stay on point. And he gave a speech recently on immigration where he talked about that it would be bloody. And he used a lot of Hitler-esque style language referring to immigrants. And Bloomberg's headline said, Trump...

sharpens attacks on immigration. And I just, I'm really worried because it feels like the Democrats are held to one standard. Biden has a debate where he, you know, he clearly aged. We all saw it. And there was a

massive reaction from the media. They wouldn't stop covering it. And Trump does all of this, all of these speeches with impunity, and it barely gets covered how he rambles all the time. I see you on Morning Joe, and I know it's covered there. But to the people that live in all these red states out in America, do they see this insanity? And if they only see our headline news consumers, they just see this headline that attempts to same wash a completely unhinged speech.

Yeah, I think that's a really important point. Look, I mean, we saw Trump at the Economic Council say child care is child care. Right. He couldn't even answer the question. He said, well, my daughter, Ivanka, Marco Rubio, child care is child care. What I think happens with Trump is he's so selfless.

I mean, it's funny because if you write about him and you try to quote him and transcribe some of his speech, you'll see, and this has always been true since 2016, like he doesn't necessarily use grammatically normal, correct, or anything like resembling what sentences are supposed to be. He'll just sort of keep going and he'll sort of stammer and stuff like that.

I think that it's really important to sort of to really quote him exactly. And that is the answer to it. Right. Like if you had a piece about his speech at the Economic Council where he said child care is child care, Donald Trump tries to answer questions. Right. He can't.

I think that is the single most important thing is just to always be very clear what Donald Trump has done, because he's such a bad orator or he's he's charismatic and he's able to connect with his people. But he's not clear. And his sentence structure is gonzo.

bizarre, bonkers, is that he has made people always now just say, well, this is what he means, right? There's always a lot of Trump translation from his allies and also from his opponents.

And that is really dangerous, I think. The other thing is that for some reason, the mainstream media is addicted to giving Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt. - Yes. - Despite the fact that he was president in 2016. And like every time, like I remember in 2016 when he won, people would say, "Oh, you're overreacting. "The awful office changes people. "When he gets in there, it's gonna be totally different."

You know, the being the president is a completely it's humbling. It's he's going to really. And what happened? None of that happened. Right. He drank Diet Coke. He watched Fox News. He tweeted. He did crazy stuff. And even like there were Republican allies of his who were saying, well, he's not, you know, at the end of when he had lost, they said he's not going to overturn the election. He's just tweeting. He's going to do some lawsuits.

Meanwhile, January 6th, we saw he in fact did try. He wanted them to riot. And this Jack Smith filing shows that all the stuff we suspected about Trump was actually true. Let me ask you a question on that, because I was watching you in an interview. And so to set the scene like the Jack Smith filing is unsealed.

And that's the headline for 24 hours. And then 24 hours later, we're talking about something else. And I mean, it's such a consequential filing. And in my head, I'm thinking, number one, going on on the right wing media, they're probably not even covering the indictment with much detail. And number two, is it going to move anybody?

And then you have Liz Cheney endorsing Kamala Harris. Yeah. And I think to myself, is that going to move anybody? And then I heard you say you think the Liz Cheney thing may actually have an effect. And so that gave me some hope. Can you tell our listeners why you think that might help?

So there are two things that an endorsement like a Liz Cheney endorsement does. One, and by the way, it's not for us, right? None of us like Liz Cheney. I mean, we all, we know what her dad did. It is for, it's two, it does two things. One, it creates a permission structure. If you are a golf club Republican who doesn't like the tweet,

but feels you would be disloyal to your party to vote for Harris. What it does is it says it creates a permission structure and you go, well, you know, I really like the Cheneys. I've always really liked the Cheneys. Maybe I if she's saying this, it must really be that I have to vote for Harris. Yes. Yes.

So that's the first thing that that does. But the other thing that it does that is equally important is that if you're a low information voter and you're just reading headlines, you're going to see a headline that says Liz Cheney endorses Vice President Harris. And what you're going to think is you're going to think,

Oh, that's odd. And maybe you're not going to go any further than that. But maybe you're going to be like, why is she endorsing Harris? And maybe you will then like go, oh, this isn't a normal election. And look, right now it's very, very tight. I mean, or at least the polls show it's very tight. So.

If you can get you pick off five thousand, ten thousand, you know, people who say or even people who are like on the fence about Trump and decide to stay home because they're like if Liz Cheney is saying he's not a real conservative, maybe he's not a real conservative. You know, this is this election. At least the polling right now shows that it will be won and lost on the margins. I'm not sure that's ultimately how it's going to go down.

How do you what do you think? What's your take on it? Do you think the polls are correct or do you think because we just were in New York just yesterday, actually, and we ran into a couple of friends that we know that we met at the DNC that are, you know, political influencers and whatnot. Two of them told us both live in New York that they thought Trump was going to win. And my heart sank.

into my stomach. And so that terrified me. But then I also think, because I live in a red state, and I'll tell you what happened here when Roe v. Wade was overturned, a bunch of Republican women were pissed. Really, really, really pissed.

And now they have college-age children that are more than likely having sex that live in a total abortion ban state. So I think there – in previous elections, there have been secret Trump voters. My prediction from the ground in a red state is there are going to be many secret Harris voters.

Yeah. And that's just a feeling that I have from people that I know when you get to that abortion issue and you have a right that somebody had their entire life that now their children and their daughters do no longer have. That has really impacted people. But back to the first question, what what is your gut? I don't know. You know that again, like the polling is I wouldn't put I.

I think we are not in the golden age of polling anymore. I think we can agree. I think, look, there are people who are diehard Trumpers and they don't care. They don't care about the impeachments. They don't care about... They are just bought in and they like the racism. They like the misogyny. They are there for it.

You know, that number is usually about it's usually about 43 percent that he has a certain like floor that he cannot go below. And what we've been seeing lately with her favorabilities is that his numbers have gone down. Now, again, it's polls. So I.

I don't really trust them, but I could see a scenario if she keeps doing what she's doing and she keeps moving and the economy keeps being good and oil doesn't become too expensive and inflation goes down. I could see a world where she does well. Now, I could also see a world where people are more racist and sexist than we think they are and they don't vote for her because of that. And that...

is the big anxiety I have, is that we don't know how racist and sexist the American, you know, we just don't know that what the voter base feels in their hearts or the way they're affected by their own biases and their own deep-seated anxiety about, you know, just that is largely based on racism and sexism. Listen, I've interviewed her a couple times and I've

Every time I interviewed her, I was like, she's great. And people be like, no, she she can't do it. And I'd be like, no, no, she's really good. I interview her. She's really smart. She's really with it. She's really charismatic. She's really charming. Like, this is a really good candidate. And people be like, no. And and they were so underestimating her. It made me wonder, look, you know, I am white and Jewish, grew up very privileged and

And I thought to myself, black women must just be undermined at every point all the time. I just I thought like this is a woman. She's attorney general for the fifth largest economy in the world. Right. She was the top cop. She was a senator from California. She was the first vice president ever.

And she is vice president. And people are like sitting there saying to me, no, she can't do it. And I was like, I don't understand why she can't do it. And they were like, no, no. And so she's had this incredible rollout that is like beyond anything anyone expected or could have even conceived. Right. And the question is, though, you know, we don't know what voters will do.

Okay, Molly, now we're going to play our game with you and it's called Had It or Hit It. Oh my God. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Okay. Had It or Hit It, true crime before bed. Okay.

Oh, Molly. Sorry. We like a murder before bedtime. We like a little light homicide before bedtime. I'm a little, I'm too anxious. I'm sorry. I can't do it. I need to like be self-protective of my mental health. I appreciate that, that she's healthier than us. Well, there's no question. We like to have guests that are a little bit healthier than us so that we can grow. We want to do better.

I just have to be careful because I get stressed out and then I don't want to sleep or I have crazy dreams. Had it or hid it, vow renewals. Oh, I mean, I had it because it's annoying, but I hid it because congratulations for staying married. Okay, Molly, I'm just going to let you in on a little secret. Yeah. If you're having a vow renewal...

Somebody was fucking around. Somebody found out. And you can mark it on your calendar. Like the date of the vow renewal is 2000, 2005. There's a divorce. I mean, it is just within five years. You got it. I mean, you got married once. It's enough. It's enough. Pumps is a divorce attorney and she has, um,

You know, her own personal study that she's conducting. Vow renewals lead to divorce. Always. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Had it or hit it Saturday night live. Oh, they're back. I think hit it. Yeah. Like they're doing a good job now and they have cool people and it's really fun and funny. Also, I love Maya Rudolph. Like she is amazing. Loved her. I think she is the best.

I love SNL during election years. Yeah. It's just, it is like peak American culture. It's some of my, no matter who's running, it's,

What's going on? You think of Will Ferrell doing George W. Bush. And to me, it's iconic, iconic American culture. We're in the middle of a campaign season and then SNL rolls out. And one of my favorites was, do you remember when Matt Damon played Brett Kavanaugh? Oh, yes. Yes. I had to circle back and watch that a few times. I thought that was incredible. OK. OK.

Had it or hit it morning people? I'm one of them now. We are too. Hit it. Love a good morning. I regret to inform you that I hit it. Yes. We hit it too. And we don't have the regrets. Pumps and I have both crossed over to where we are smug morning people. And we like to send out emails that

time stamp just how psychotic and smug we are with a 5 a.m. response. Good morning. Signed Jen and Pumps of I've Had It podcast. So we've turned into smug victory lap morning people. I think that when I don't know how old you guys are, but I suspect you're close in age to me. And when I

In this category of our lives, I think that we have so much energy because my kids are like almost grownups and there's a feeling like I still have the energy that I had when they were little. And so I have like I can do a lot of shit. Yeah.

I'm with you on that. I feel like you always hear all of these things. I just turned 50. Pumps is significantly older than me. She's 54. And you hear all these things about middle age and especially there's all of this rhetoric right now about women not being useful after they're, you know, finished. Coming from J.D. Vance. Exactly. The grossest. I feel like I have

all of this energy. I feel young. I feel fantastic. And I, before you came on, we were talking about the need to normalize and celebrate being an empty nester and not projecting that that is a sad thing for a woman and normalize and celebrate being middle-aged because it's really not that old and you feel great and you're fully capable and able of doing everything you could do when you were younger, but with a heck of a lot more wisdom and life experience. Right.

Yeah, I totally agree. Okay. Had it or hid it, parent-teacher conferences. I actually, okay. I have three kids. One is in college, two are in high school. I...

It depends on the kid, OK? That's true. Let's be honest. I've had the conferences where they're like, we love said child. And I've had the conferences where they're like, well. And so I think if you have the kid where the school likes them, then hit it. And if you have the kid where the school is merely tolerating them, then had it. Yeah.

Had all those conferences myself. I completely agree. Yeah. Yeah. Completely agree. Okay. Had it or hid it, the Oxford comma. Yeah.

I've never been a great grammar person, but I do like an Oxford comma. It shows you care. I agree. I agree. I am a huge proponent of the Oxford comma. We get in huge discussions with our millennial producers of the podcast because they are anti-Oxford comma. But we here at I've Had It are advocates of

for the Oxford Comet. And I'm glad that you can join us in this fight. Yes, 46, baby. We're all around the same age. So yes. Okay. Last one, had it or hid it, Harris-Walls. Oh, hid it. And hopefully all of you will too. That's right. Up and down the ballot.

Yes, up and down. And I would say a few things. One is she has she's really done a great job. She has just done really well. I just what I would like to see is her and Walls out there just crisscrossing the country, bus touring Pennsylvania. Don't trust the polls. Just get Harris Walls out there every day, couple times a day, you know, rallies, local media, you

Just all the local radio stations, all the stuff where you can, local newspapers, everything where you can get local people to see. I mean, if a presidential candidate comes to your town, you're significantly more likely to A, vote, and B, vote for that candidate.

And one important component of everything that you said, which what I would call high road campaigning, I don't want our listener to forget that there also is the low road campaigning. And what I would say with that is really large crowds.

constantly on Truth Social. Yes, yes. For an audience of one and lots of posting of the lackluster, abysmal, shrinking crowd size that is happening from her opponent. I think some of the low road campaigning is also important, but that's why we like to have big guests with big ideas that are up on the high road to juxtapose the petty grievances that we offer here at I've Had It. Yeah.

We love a petty grievance. I'm all for petty grievance. I, you know, I think there's really a place for pettiness, especially in the year 2024. I agree. Molly Jong Fast, I'm so glad that we made this happen from a happen chance elevator ride to obviously one of the best episodes we've ever recorded.

I have to tell you, you two, like when I met you, both of you, first of all, you were just so adorable, so chic, so fabulous. But then you told me about where you are doing your podcast, where you live, what. And, you know, that is so important. And especially in a red state.

Like you give people hope, you connect with people, you give them permission to vote their conscience. I mean, it's just so incredibly important and really uplifting to me. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for being a part of that. Yes. And thank you for that support. Yeah, I'm delighted. Yes. It's really true. So. All right. Thank you so much, Molly. I would just like to point out that it's one of the coolest things about doing this podcast has been that

You and I have been political junkies, and we go over to Twitter, we watch MSNBC, we'll flip over to CNN, we'll watch the BBC. We're reading all of these articles from all of these people. So we've known of Molly Jong Fast for quite some time, listeners. She may be new to you, but she's an incredible journalist, an incredibly responsible voice in journalism that I've admired for a long time, as has Pumps.

And how surreal it is still to bump into these people and meet them and then have them guest on our podcast. It's still kind of surreal to me. It kind of feels like imposter syndrome sometimes doing this podcast. Like I'm like, how am I here? How did I get here? And I'll tell you why. Why? It's those topless shimmies around the house. Shimmy, shimmy, shimmy. It's just, it's just, no, here's the thing.

I think it's important. I think she's right that the voices, all voices in America have merit. And when you hear red states, blue states and all the divisiveness of that.

You have, like in our city, all of our friends, all of the people with whom we spend time with are voting for Kamala Harris. And they might be more to the center than we are. They might be have always voted Republican. But the Roe situation and Donald Trump's immoral behavior has pushed them over here. Or they could be further left than you and I. And that is we get messages all the time, don't we, Kathy, from people who say that

I live in Tennessee or I live in Georgia or I live in Kentucky or I live in Alabama. I feel so represented. I feel so seen. I feel so heard with your accents and that you're in a red state because we are all out here. So this episode...

It's dedicated to all of you because it is sometimes frustrating and you feel like maybe you're living in the wrong place and you feel like, oh my God, everybody around me is a crazy Trumper. And it's really depressing. It is. All right, listen, go to our link in bio. We have a book coming out. It's called Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches and Contrary to What You May Believe. We have not always been this rock solid in this book. We go a little deeper to

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