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The first video I think I ever saw on YouTube was a video called Cat Soup. Yeah, you mentioned that to me last time. No one references that video specifically. That is such a very specific OG Smosh video. You guys were trying to find, you're trying to go to Disney on Ice. Damn, you remember every detail? And the cat started scratching on you and then one of you put it in the microwave. I did, yeah. I'm afraid of how many people recreated that moment.

There was no warnings. Damn. Wow. You think that inspired the next generation of animal abusers? You tell me. You watched that video as a child and it's been burned into your memory. He does have owned two cats. Owned. Schlatt. Schlatt. It was a... It was a...

Fun little experiment. I mean, like, yeah, I showed the new cat, the black cat that I got. Yeah. I didn't tell anybody. That was just Jambo after being charred. Popped him in there for a few. Welcome to Chuckle Sandwich. We've got Anthony Padilla. I popped him in there.

Smosh was not a huge part of my inspiration, but it was the first, you know, it was the first thing I saw. I guess you could say it was a huge part. Well, no. Yeah. I just didn't, I don't want to, I don't like building our guests up. I don't want to give you too much to work with here. Because we're supposed to be friends here. Yeah, yeah. We're on the same level. Keep me humble. I'll tell you one thing. I remember when I was first told about YouTube when I was a kid.

And I thought it was spelt YouTube as in you. Letter U? Letter U and then tube. Brought me to a porn site.

Wait, YouTube did not own the letter YouTube.com and it brought you to a porn site. I mean this was like, that's what I think it brought me to. Yeah dude, I was trying to get to YouTube too and I typed in. It's probably a redirect maybe now or something. Is that what you were thinking? It might be a redirect to YouTube? That's what I would assume that they would do. Yeah, I mean this must have been in like 2006 or 2005. Remember when Whitehouse.gov or like .com was a porn site?

Didn't know that yeah, I like that Whitehouse.com was a porn site and Whitehouse.gov was the actual site of the government Yeah, yeah the government the good old days. Yeah. How did you find YouTube? That's actually a funny story so we created some

theme song lip sync music videos before we even knew what YouTube was. So at that point we had create, we had a, we had done the Power Rangers theme song and the Mortal Kombat theme song. And I was hosting them on my own website that I designed because before YouTube there was nowhere to host the videos, any videos. So you had to host on your own website and

Long story short, the bandwidth costs started skyrocketing on my servers. Oh, really? And when it was like $300 in one month, I was like, okay, this video is like being shared around the internet somewhere. So I did a search for the video title and up pops this website, this brand new website.

It was still in beta. It said YouTube beta. Wow, you found YouTube in fucking beta. Dude, at the time, if you were to register, they had a little giveaway that they were doing to give away free iPod Nanos. No way. You got a free iPod Nano? I did. Sold it. Got a camera. He's an entrepreneur! Welcome Anthony Padilla to this episode of Chuckle Sandwich.

We're totally in it by now. We're totally... We played the intro ten minutes ago. I know, but I just wanted to welcome him again. I mean, this is... That's really cool. I mean, that... What color? I don't know. Generic silver. Or white. Or gray. Okay.

I accept all of those answers. It was one of those. So did someone host that video, like rip it from your site and put it on YouTube? Yeah. Wow. Someone ripped it, put it up there. It had like 12 comments and I was like, oh shit, like this is a place where A, there's a community of people that can comment on it and I'll talk about this specific video. But B, I don't have to pay for this shit anymore. Right. Was it called, was the website that you originally had, was that called Smosh.com? Yeah. Wow. So what did, wait, so what did...

There's probably this is probably story told a million times, but where does Smosh come from? The word Smosh... Yeah, we had we had a friend who was telling me about this crazy insane mosh pit that he was in but he said Smosh pit and I was I was like I don't know we were walking over to our group of friends and I was like this guy

Just said that he was in a smosh pit and then we all just were like smosh smosh Smosh, that's the most early 2000s. That's the most early 2000s. That was 2002 Yeah, wow. Wow. And how did you get people? I was four. What? I was four? I was four years old. You were born in 1998? Yeah. What? I was three. What? Sometimes two.

You were born in 99? Sometimes two. You were born the same year The Matrix came out? Yeah. No. I was born the same year that Nintendo 64 came out. What the fuck? Yeah. Okay. All right. Oh, God. I'm around a bunch of children. You are. You're in the presence of some youngins. Yeah, some youngins. Very nubile. How does it feel to realize your own mortality? Nubile? Nubile. Yeah. What does that mean? That means supple and young. Okay. I mean, you are. I mean, you're looking supple and young right now. I'm trying to stay nubile.

I think...

It doesn't feel appropriate when you say it. Yeah, no, it doesn't. It doesn't. Can you explain how you get people to a website called Smosh? Before YouTube, what was the game plan going in? We're making these lip sync videos. We know people want to see them. How do we get people to the URL where we're hosting them? I mean, there's so many layers to this story. I made Smosh.com in a web design class that I took and I had self-taught.

myself all this web design stuff. So I would do the assignment in the first 10 minutes of class. I'd have another hour and 20 minutes to do whatever else I wanted. And I would just work on this website.

I sold shirts to earn money to fund the website server costs. Just sold it to people at my school. Literally had teachers buying it just to support this kid. Yeah, yeah, it was pretty chill. And then I ripped off a Flash animation website called Newgrounds.

If you ever heard of Newgrounds. And I made my own Flash gateway instead of their Flash portal because I kept submitting animations to this website and they kept getting blammed. They kept getting rejected. Blammed. Blammed was the term to use if it didn't get enough. So if it wasn't Smosh it would have been blammed. Maybe. But so I made my own version of that and then we had some people from all over submitting

Their own flash animations. Have you heard of Tom Ska? Yeah, of course. I've never heard it. I've never heard the way that you pronounced it that way. What? It's not Tom Ska? Well, you're like Tom Ska. Tom Ska. I say Tom Ska. Yeah, Tom Ska. Tom Ska, not Tom Ska. Yeah, Tom Ska. But yes, I have heard of Tom Ska. His animation got rejected from Newgrounds, so then he uploaded it to Smosh.

Wow. Before YouTube was even a thing or anything. Yeah. I didn't find out until way later. Is this ASTF movie you're talking about? Yeah. Well, it wasn't that specifically. It was something that he ended up turning into. Wow. Holy fuck, man. But, yeah. So, it was just a website. And...

Then how do we get people to the website? I don't know. We put Smosh.com at the beginning of all of our videos. Is the original Smosh.com, is that available on Wayback Machine? Yeah. Tucker, would you go into Wayback Machine and look up Smosh.com and see if we can get like what the original website looks like? I programmed all these things so that if someone ripped off my images that it would like...

Turn into this thing saying smosh.com in like this red text on a black background. What really? Unfortunately, because the Wayback Machine is technically ripping it off, it all looks like all fucked up. Oh, really? Yeah, because people were stealing the images and I was like, fuck, I'm having to pay an extra $10 this month because this asshole stole my images. Right. Yeah. But the general like UI is...

It's generally there, yeah, yeah. So you'll see what 14-year-old me thought was really good design decisions. Oh, okay. Tucker is our nubile. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's our nubile boy. He looks pretty nubile. The more you say it, the worse it gets. He's our little cherub. I'm not going to say the other one I've been saying this week. What? Catamite. He said it. Catamite. I don't even know what that is. It's a boy kept for homosexual purposes. Oh, shit! Wow. Oh, shit! Oh, shit!

Look at that man. Oh see the one that's ripped off there the black. Yeah, but the general idea is there What year is this 2002? Yeah, Victoria's Secret Review Smosh news. Yeah, seems that you had a good taste back then Oh, you know, I didn't look at my look at the songs. Oh, yeah, we had we had our own songs playing on Linkin Park prodigy Let's see. My name was wiener Smosh. No way. Yeah, we're small. That was me man. I

From November 19th, 2002 at 8.50 p.m. you posted this. Yeah, I was... That's crazy. I was just turned 15. Is it weird that you can look at evidence of your activity in the world from 21 years ago?

It's fucking weird. Almost 21 years ago. It's weird. It's weird when you go back to the oldest videos too, and I think that they say 17-- uploaded 17 years ago now? Uh-oh! Latest forum post: Smosh is gay. Smosh is gay! Ah! Damn, no, this is so weird to look at though, 'cause I remember all these users. When was the last time that you went back and looked at this?

The way back machine with first month I think people post it to me a lot to be like what the fuck cuz they find it right away Totally awesome Smosh tackler and orgasm So this is slightly newer I like cheese is one of the My sense of humor has not changed Wow extremely sweet I

Extremely sweet. Extremely sweet. Can you view the results? That's like the... Does it let you? Oh, no way. This website's really slow. Yeah, yeah, it's because I didn't really design it. Whoa! Whoa!

That was an updated version. That was 2007. Oh, my God. I learned how to design a little bit better. Dude, you know what this looks like right now? If you scroll up, Tucker, real quick. This looks like what iCarly had as the sort of notion of what a website would be in that alternate universe, like on pair.com or something like that. This brings back so many memories, though, because I designed... I mean, I was designing all of this and programming all of this and doing everything on the website. Right.

I would spend like 40 hours a week just trying to fucking fix the site because people kept crashing it. People kept hacking it and crashing the site. Were you into computer science then? I was just obsessed with technology. Yeah, my dad got me a computer when I was like

And allowed me to have it in my bedroom. My mom was not super happy about an 11-year-old having a full access to the internet. That's luxurious. Oh, it was. And I didn't have much. I did not have much money. But my dad was like. Oh, my God. My dad was super happy. My parents were split up. My dad was like, you need to have a computer.

You got the love money. Yeah. I'm not in your life full time because your mother and I split up, but I'll get you a computer. Yeah, wow. No, he was great. But I became obsessed with...

What I could do with this box in my room when I wasn't looking at porn and you know I didn't have many tangible resources but this box in my room was just like this source of the only limit was whatever I could think of and that's great so I guess that's what I thought you had 117 people At that time 2006 that was like when was you when did YouTube? Okay, how?

What was it like before YouTube and then after YouTube for Smosh? I mean, everything changed. The website, I think, probably had 30, 40 users online at a time beforehand. And then afterwards, it started picking up.

Think if you flash forward like a year or something you'll see that there's like thousands and thousands of people on the way Let's go into the future Tucker. Let's go into the future Two months in we're going to February. Oh, this is a forecast soup. I've been before cats. Yeah still 117 people okay. It's updating. What's it say now? It just says loading. I think this is my cat shop

Maybe the next one would do it. Is that a list of all the people that are online? You got Licky online. Yeah. Or no, that's Ricky. My bad. Very different.

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This website, you know, obviously there's a chance we might not get what we're looking for here because this is like literally just we're looking at hints of a memory. Yeah, you know, of the internet. It says 18,000 members right there. Wow. Okay, so that's 10,000 more than when we last were looking at it. Yeah, yeah. I rock it in. That's crazy. In a couple months back in 2007. But this is, I mean, it's part of the reason why...

I sold 20.com. - 28,000 members. - Yeah. - 152 years in a row. - It just started skyrocketing. - When did you sell Smosh? - 2011. And part of the reason was because I was spending all of my time

Working on this website and they offered me the ability like they had all these ideas They were like a perfectly in line with all I wanted to gamify being a user on here I want you to like level up and uh-huh and like get rewarded early internet stuff - yeah, it's like yeah, because it's weird now with with websites where it's like you can't really do that on the internet anymore where it's like you can just have your own website because it's like so much of the internet exists on these like main sort of monopolized platforms where it's like that the internet exists through

like the seven main websites or something like that yeah it's weird it used to just be all these little tiny websites doing whatever the fuck they wanted with no rules and it's crazy how you i i can't even think of what it would be like trying to get people to your own fucking domain yeah well in all of our videos it wasn't even like there was a square space or something you know like that you know you were putting in the code you had to literally code it yourself

Yeah, you were getting into in the dirt in the mud. Yeah, yeah. Crawling around in the internet. Before YouTube, like this is we're talking 2002. You had people on the site. How the fuck do you get people there? Three and a half years before YouTube even existed. It was it was such guerrilla marketing that it was like, we'll trade banners. I traded banners. I did like banner swaps with people. Yeah. And then I would look at the stats and it'd be like, you got 100 clicks today. And one person stuck around for more than 30 seconds.

Wow. That was all it was about. I remember there was a time where I was like, if I keep this up, maybe I could earn. My goal was to earn $30 a month. Wow. Would that pay for the website? Yeah, it would pay for the website.

Wow. Yeah. So you've got home, you've got forums, you've got videos, you've got Flash. I assume that's animation. That's Flash animation. Nice. And then you've got the whole members list and you've got a store. Wow. I mean, you've got like... The store was just the clothing designs that I was... I really love the design of it though with the fucking buttons and everything. It's strange. It looks like...

It's strange, but I... The color, like, mint and a blue? It's a strange... I mean, looking at it now, I mean, how old were you when you were working on this? Let's see, what year is that? 2007. I was... I was 19. I mean, this design, though, has been... Looks like it's been consistent since, like, 2002.

A little bit, yeah. Here's a flash forward, maybe. Oh shit, and that's after we sold and they started aging it down. Kind of making it look more appealing to children, I guess. I don't know. It started to look more sloppy. That's when it all started to go to shit. That's like old Reddit and this is new Reddit. It started to go to shit real quick.

Well, they... Okay, so you sold the website. This wasn't like the whole business. No, we sold the whole fucking business, man. In 2011? Yeah, yeah. Really? For theoretical stock dollars. So 2011 was when, around the time that Shalad and I first started trying to make YouTube videos. Yeah.

How old were you? 11. I was 13. Sometimes 12. Sometimes 12? Yeah, like I think I posted my first YouTube videos which were pivot animations in like 2008. But, you know, I was like,

I'm posting these for the purpose of being like hey I want people to see this like for the for the sake of being perceived like in around 2011 like November - oh okay here we go so Tucker's pulling it up already what was this your stuff so this is actually my first video I ever released for that purpose total minor builder total minor builder 11 years ago is that well what year was it that I posted this tiger was that 2012 actually

Oh yeah, November 10th, 2011. So, this is the first video of TotalMiner16. I spelled potato wrong in the description. I know that my camera is a... Is that gonna be your first username? TotalMiner16? Okay, so... Yes, it's Priest. Okay. Priest? I know that my camera is a potato. And I have a crappy microphone. Okay, so this was from a game... This was back when the Xbox 360 did not have Minecraft on it yet.

So I purchased this third party game called Total Miner Builder and then I took my Fujifilm point and shoot camera and I face paid it. Oh shit! Holy fuck. At the TV. And so I was doing it. And that's a CRT monitor too. Yeah. And so I did a little commentary thing. So I said, hey guys, what's up? This is Total Miner 16. This is my first video on YouTube as Total Miner. That's probably the, those are the first words that I say in this video. Fuck.

That was your first mark you left on the internet. There's an alternate reality where you are total minor 16. Yeah, total minor builder. Well, basically, there I am.

Two videos? Or did you just private these? Well, this is the Lotso Mobs mod. I started doing Minecraft videos. I started doing Minecraft videos where I figured out how to use fraps. And I started doing it on my computer. You got fucked up right there. I did. That was sort of my little intro. And you opened it up with the back down, dude. Because then my Antvenom intro comes in right after where it's like...

Yeah, there's my AntVenom style intro. Did you design this? No. No, that said username on it. Yeah, it didn't. Ted, that's crazy. Yeah. I didn't know. Have you guys seen this? No. I didn't know he got his start with a fucking camera recording a TV because that's exactly how some of my first videos were. Really? Do you have those? They're somewhere. I don't think anyone's ever found them.

That's the thing. So they're living somewhere. And actually, a couple weeks ago, I did some searches. Did you find it? Literally like six, seven views. Can you find it now? They're out there somewhere. Do you want it?

You know, we might want to keep this a secret, to be honest. Just for your own... Just for my own little... What was interesting about the Total Miner one was that when I posted that video where it was like Total Miner zombie quarantine map, that first video I ever posted got 40,000 views. What? Fuck you. So it absolutely blew my expectations of how a video could do on YouTube out of the water. Oh, because any time I upload, I'm hitting 50,000 views a video. So it was like, I posted it and I was like...

wait, what? I can just post and it's going to do super easy? And it didn't end up being that way, but it sort of got me hooked. It was like you start gambling for the first time and you win like three grand or something like that. I love the description. Not Minecraft, but still freaking cool. Yeah, no. And so eventually...

Your second video in, you had a new channel that you were ever on. So that's actually not the case. Basically, because this is like two years later, I had been making, everything else is unlisted. Everything else is unlisted. I keep these up just because I think it's funny to have them up. Yeah. Because I still have access to this account. God damn, dude. Yeah, some people would find it, you know. That's insane. That's insane. With my Wii, I used to hack Mario Kart.

That was my that was something I was really yeah, dude You ever play Mario Kart Wii and then someone comes into the lobby with like 35,000 Rating and he just starts like throwing blue shells and lightning shit. Wait, how do you how do you hack a Wii you needed? You needed something called the homebrew channel. Okay, which there was it there's a get it through loading a map like a fake map of

Through an SD card that you put into the Wii. Yeah into Super Smash Brothers You needed to buy Super Smash Brothers Yeah load in a fake file that the game thought was a map and then it just fucking install this Bootleg channel on your Wii that's so smart and so you could put a little code into the SD card that the game that it would launch through another

inside the homebrew channel and then all of a sudden you just go into online games. You'd have fucking any item you wanted through different combinations of pressing the D-pad. - Yeah. - And one of my first videos out there, if not my actual first video on YouTube, was me putting a digital camera up on a tripod, setting it up to my CRT TV with the same fucking stupid lines and shit that were all over yours

and just recording myself tormenting little kids on Mario Kart Wii. - Which is Blue Shell, Blue Shell, Blue Shell, Blue Shell. - Yeah, yeah, but I fucked them up. I fucked them up big time, but the only thing, I was like, I gotta be a cool hacker.

Can I just say, I'm enjoying the dichotomy of the two things that we have going on here. I'm showing a creation that I made that I spent a couple hours on and then on Slat's side he's like, look at these kids that I'm fucking with. I'm fucking these kids right now. I'd said as I was launching Blue Shells and Lightning, you do the mega mushroom that makes you all big.

And then you do the lightning effect that or the star effect that makes you invincible You set up on a really tight bridge No, yeah pass you and then if you really want to make it tough you get the green shells you just launch them at an angle so that they go Creates an impenetrable wall that you cannot pass would you just sit there on the bridge is a huge and yeah I do that and I get really good at mega mushroom star and

- Green Shell, and then I dropped Bob-ombs behind me every time so there'd be an explosion too. So you could not get past this. - That's amazing, I really missed out. - And then I would really fuck these kids. But at the end-- - Don't clip that. - Yeah, don't clip that. - At the end, I had my-- - I would really fuck these kids. - You know how Mario Kart, you have like a rating at the end and it goes up and down based on if you win? I would set mine to the absolute highest it could go, 35,000, which you could only get through the code.

And then at the very end where people were starting to cross the finish line, I would get the mushroom and I'd boost as far as I could back into the track so that I'd come in last place. And as a prize for playing with me and letting me fuck you, the game would say, the game would say, oh, this guy lost and he had 35,000 rating, which means everyone else must be really good at

And made everyone's score would boost like almost 300 points, which was huge. Oh, it was kind of like the similar thing where it's like when my buddy James Caution put me in that Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 lobby and then he got me prestige 70. Yeah. Level 70 prestige 12 or whatever in Modern Warfare 2. Exactly. It was like that if those lobbies also had someone that was just...

Completely fucking you to death with with with guns that could shoot through walls and shit and you know The prize was leveling up right now. Yeah for for what brownie points I

Yeah, well, it was fun to me. Yeah. It was fun to me. I really enjoyed it. And that was just like, you know, you bear with me. Yeah, yeah. It's one of those things with cheat codes when you're a kid where it's like you'll do it for a while until you get old and you realize, oh, this isn't funny anymore. Because like there's a...

Because your life is so structured when you're a kid and then to be able to break the rules of something and do whatever you want is very novel for a while until you realize, oh no, now I want challenge again and rules and structure. That was the very first thing I did with the internet. I searched up cheat codes. Yeah. This was like 1997. I went to cheatplanet.com.

Cheap planet.com. Target, would you flip Cheap Planet.com for us? Does it still exist? I'm going to do the way back. Oh, yeah. I hope that's the name of it. There might be viruses there. Yeah, there might be viruses in just like Mark Zuckerberg in a corner looking down like this. What was it like in 97? Is that the website?

It's slow. Okay. What was it like in 97? Back in the days of 1997. Yeah, what was it like in 97? Have you seen that TikTok that shows up on the For You page? There it is! Oh, shit! See if you could go back to, like, what is it? I don't think, yeah, I don't even think the Wayback Machine existed then.

when this website was new. - It's got it in '99. - Yeah, okay, they could go back to '99, but I mean, this looks even updated compared to when I would go to this site. - Wow. - Yeah, they got the little, look at this. - Planet PC games, Planet Nintendo 64. - The little animated lips.

Well, that's pretty cool. That's pretty user-submitted cheats. Yeah. Wow. This is the year you were born. Mario Party Strategy. That's the cheat. Yeah, that's the thing about a lot of these cheat code websites is sometimes it's like not actually like a code. No, they're just strategy. Yeah, it's like, oh, you do this and it's like, I want a code I can put in. Yeah. So that I can fly. Yeah.

Have this weird thing that semi relates to this. Oh, that's word art right there - that's oh, yeah That's the fucking like leopard fucking. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're a texture there. Yeah, I have a theory I want to run by you Anthony. Yeah, let's hear if I have a kid God bless him if that happens if I have a kid I want to start recording him with really shitty camcorders at first and as he grows up and

Up the technology so he can watch himself from like tapes and stuff Despite the fact that 8k video has existed for decades. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I mean like a big a really cool thing for me was being able to like plug in these old fucking cassettes that Footage of me was recorded on like two decades ago. Yeah, and there's something yeah, I feel like

I feel like it wouldn't even be fun. Like, oh, here's you at one year old and high definition. And you just search it on YouTube. Here's just the link. Here's an MP4 file. You got to dig up the archives. Exactly. I think there's something to that. It's going to be so out of your way to do that, though. I know, but there's very little footage of me as a child, and I feel like it would make that footage even more valuable and meaningful.

- As opposed to, oh, here's just, here's 30 hours of you in your first week that we recorded on a fucking iPhone. There's something more meaningful to that. - I wonder what I would feel about myself if I could go back and look at any single moment in my childhood and know exactly what I was like, know exactly what I was into. There's a part of me that likes that there's just like, I don't know, anything before the year 2000. It just doesn't exist.

I don't even that I might not even be the same person that's in my memory of that time. Do you think that similar to the whole camcorder thing, do you think that people should should have experienced this? Like, is this a moment in time that's like, you know, like I wish I wish it wasn't as as fucking straightforward as it is now. Yeah. I mean, it was there was something so cool about this being like this is the secret. Like your parents didn't know how to go to these websites like you figured this shit out yourself.

No one told you how to do it. It was everything was you just like it was like you're solving a puzzle Just to fucking figure out how to use the internet on your own you had to teach yourself There was no guides there was no Tucker could you go to see what happened during that big giant area of cheap planet? I want to see with like that Renaissance of she were planet appears right when that 360 came out Let's see what happened in here peaking

They got ads too. Quake 4. But they didn't give up their Cheap Planet styling. Yeah, seriously. Wow. Yeah. But they've got that banner on the side though, those side banners things that YouTube was in like 2011. Yeah, it kind of looks like my old website too where it just has like all the links. Like you could see where my inspiration came from for all this shit.

Part of me wishes that this era of the internet has not just completely been buried. Yeah. And like, that kids growing up could experience something like this. It's so sloppy, which kind of made it nice, right? I made my own fucking websites on WordPress and my blogger and shit. Your dentures? No, my food. His dentures? Oh, you said his dentures? I heard that too. His dentures are here? Yeah.

I didn't think it was that old. It sucks. Doesn't it kind of fucking suck that a kid can just post a video and blow up on TikTok and get a million followers in a day as opposed to having to go through the fucking ringer of like messaging people, hey, can we do sub for sub? If you subscribe to me, I'll subscribe to you and we'll just click on each other's videos sometimes and then maybe like...

Advertising on dig or or like sorry or like getting in the reddit comments and shit I don't know I mean I feel like having to go through all that shit makes how easy it is now feel like you know it's like work harder and then yeah easier it's like this There's no character though. Yeah, it builds character. It builds care. I like a little growl you got going on there Yeah, I'm thinking about the character that I built

get my hands dirty in the digital age of 1999. - You are a dirty boy, aren't you? - I'm a dirty boy, and I'm daddy to you. - You're daddy to him too. - I'm more daddy to you. - Boom, roasted. - I did not ask for anybody to be my daddy, okay? You did, that was you. - He demanded it. - You demanded it, you said, "Be my daddy." - I'll be your daddy. - Papa.

I know who my dad is. Why I said that? Do you not know who your daddy is? No, I do! My dad is Tom Scott. My father is Ted. Hm? I'm a junior. Oh. Yeah, but it confused you for a second, didn't it? Yeah, I thought you were like a snail where you impregnated yourself. Oh, okay. No, but you know that snails can fossilize themselves? How do they do that? Is that after impregnating themselves? They will them upon themselves.

Time to become a fossil. Mm-hmm. He says. I'm a fossil compared to each of you in this booth right now. Can I tell you a fucked up story? Yes. So, I was a big fan of TomSka back in the day. Ass Stuff movie, all that shit. I was just discovering this game called Minecraft in like 2010, 2011 or something. Yeah.

Big fan of Minecraft. I love the skin feature. It was a great way to express yourself. To create something that represented you as a person. Was it a dick? No, it was... I googled TomSka skin. You put TomSka skin on your Minecraft character? And he had a TomSka skin. Someone had made it for him. Like just the white character? Like the... What? No, TomSka. It looked like him as a human? Yeah, specifically him from his YouTube video, Needles.

Where he teleports in and he's like, Dean, wait! There's needles. No. I filled the room with tiny razor sharp needles. The checkered design. That was his skin. I edited it a little bit and I put a suit on it. And for years, it just was... For years, it was just my own thing. And I got famous off of... Yep. No, hold on. Wait, wait. Tell me. Look down there. Look there. I got famous...

Off of Minecraft while still having TomSka's face. Oh! That's my Minecraft skin. That's your skin. Yep. That's so funny. I mentioned TomSka on this video. Oh, Daily Dose of Jay Slap. And so, yeah, that is TomSka's face. Oh, shit! And it has been...

My Minecraft skin is TomSka. You took it away from him. With a suit. And I really did take it away from him. And I didn't... For the longest time, I didn't even fucking remember until TomSka did...

Last year Tom Scott did a charity Minecraft event where he came back to the game and everyone was like Jay Shlatt. He streamed this Minecraft game that he hadn't streamed for like a fucking decade. Yeah. And he gets in the game and he's like, all right, we're gonna have a good time in Minecraft and he opens his inventory and shows the character and the entire chat blows up with why did you steal Jay Shlatt's skin?

And he goes, who the fuck is that? Holy shit. And the chat explained to him who I was. Yeah. And then Tom was like,

But this is my skin. This is my face that I had made for me. Did you have to come out as a... And this is what outed me. He tweeted at me and I was like, oh, fuck, right.

That is Tom Scott's skin. Holy shit. And had millions of people seen it just from me. And I sent them a very sincere apology. Like, hey, man, I didn't mean anything bad by this. I was just a really big fan of you back in the day. And this was just my way of really appreciating you. And I'm really sorry that it ended up

The way it did. And thankfully he was cool about it. But... Yeah. It was fucking embarrassing. So you're just Tom Ska with a suit. Yeah. My Minecraft skin that has been seen by millions of people is just Tom Ska in a suit. That makes a lot of sense. I didn't even make the suit. I just fanned it off another character. So you ripped the suit. You put them together. Through Lego pieces. Yeah. Yep.

That's wild. And then he uploaded on Smosh.com in 2003. He just doesn't want to admit he's a skinwalker. I don't know what that is. What does that mean? You know, you've been around for a while. 35 years. But you've also been around on YouTube for a while. 18-ish years. You're probably one of the longest running...

YouTubers when many people be many of the old dogs Yeah, you know pack it up and and and depart what has you know? What about your experience on YouTube and on the internet and like sort of? Your interest do you believe has kept you on the website for as long as you've been on it? I feel like whenever I have an idea. I just can't help but

I'm just so excited about seeing ideas come to fruition I do you say that you're like primarily like a creative like it's sort of a creative There's always something new that you feel like you are is pulling for creative drive Sounds so cheesy, but I just can't like whenever I get an idea I just can't help but like it needs to it needs to express itself. I

It needs to, you know. He likes cheese in the Smosh Bowl. I like cheese. You're compelled. You're compelled by the will of your soul. And I can't escape it. Anytime that I step away for a bit to take some time off, take a vacation, that's when the ideas won't stop. Oh, like day five of vacation where you start to get the itch? Because whenever I get bored, the ideas can't stop. It's always day five of vacation where I'm like,

Oh, but I want to make another video. Yeah. Yeah. I can't even get that deep into a vacation, man. I feel like the second I... You're probably anxious right now doing Chuckle Week, even though we're doing that. I have been. Because I'm not working on my own shit. Even though you are. Technically. Technically. Yeah. But it's kind of his shit, too. Yeah, it's like 50% of my shit. Yeah, you don't want to work on his shit right now. You want to work on just his shit. Why are you doing this? What do you think I should work on right now? I mean, he's got his products. Yeah, my product, your GamerSups, that you can go to gamersups.gg. Yeah.

And use code "schlatt" for 10% off and also have my own flavor on this website called "titty milk." Titty milk. It's a refreshing blue raspberry flavor. So it tastes just like real titty milk. Maybe. Ted's pissed he doesn't have his own products and equity in the business. He doesn't. He owns nothing. Actually, when I incorporated Chuckle Sandwich, which he doesn't even know about, I took 90% of the company. Oh really? So you own 10%? He owns 10% of his own podcast. Of something. 10% of something is something. Yeah.

So so opposite though is what this actual situation is right now. So let's talk about equity Okay, you sold Smosh. Yeah. Yeah, this is a fun one. Is this a touchy subject? We don't know I'm over it. My therapist has heard a lot about it It seems like you're very much so at peace with where you are in the world right now. I'm good I feel like all those things happened

In order for me to be exactly where I am now and I'm happy with where I am. I don't believe you, but the way that you were presenting it with your facial expressions made it seem like you were absolutely not. You were like, yeah, I'm good. It was really the memories of how fucked up I was about it for a long time.

But yeah, so I sold Smosh and they were like, "Here's some stock dollars. You're gonna make a lot of money with stock dollars." But it was kind of the money. And you know, I have seen people be like, "Oh, you fucking sell out. You sold out and then now all this shit happened. You should have known better."

But it was a lot of things, you know, spending so much time designing, working on this website, maintaining the website. They came in, they were like, yeah, all these ideas that you have, we can make all these things happen. You don't need to worry about any of the technical stuff. You could just worry about being creative and the stuff that, you know, you want to make, which was true, you know, and for many years, I think that this the quality of the Smosh videos went up. The

the amount of time that I could spend working on these ideas and just having fun went up. And I think that all perfectly aligned with the popularity of Smosh growing. But at a certain point, because it wasn't my company, I was just a salaried employee. I'd say about four years in,

Started to realize oh shit probably on time smosh movie was being created. I was like oh shit. This isn't mine I am just doing the bidding of whatever this company wants me to do and I was putting all of my energy into this thing and they were like You know the more that the more energy that you put into it the more that the value of the company goes up So when it eventually sells it goes up and you know just I think just having a lot of authority figures telling me all these things What I really wanted to do was create stuff, and then I felt like I could put I

the rest of it in the hands of the people that I trusted, but I don't think I should have trusted all the people that I trusted. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So then the company, uh, ended up completely shutting down in 2018 and that theoretical money was no more. Are you happy where like,

you know despite everything that happened in terms of like the the money lost in terms of like the Destiny of this thing that you had spent so much of your life and so much and had probably associated so much of your personal identity like with yeah Are you? Happy with him. Well how it's landed I feel like in many ways it's landed on its feet and sort of a Proper home with it working with like mythical and stuff would would you say that that is?

Do you feel like it's like, okay, they're safe? Yeah, it's really cool to see this thing that I created when I was so young still thriving in its own way, still living. I think that there was a time when I was really bitter about it. I was like, our fucking whole business crashes and burns. I was so frustrated because of the way that everything turned out. But now I'm really...

really happy to see that it's continuing to thrive and do its own thing. I think it is a testament to Ian and my, I guess, vision for

for the brand and it still continues to do its own thing. I went on, I went recently and got insulted on Smosh. For the funeral roast? Yeah, I got funerally roasted. Yeah. How was that? It was, I mean, you know, they didn't fuck around. They got deep in there. Well, at least the people that knew me personally didn't fuck around. They were hitting me with the, with the, yeah, you got G-Slide in your videos a lot. What's that about? What do you mean?

No, they were making a joke of like I collab with people a good amount and they were like they were saying I was uh The roast was that I'm uh your side little side piece. Oh, yeah, don't make that Yeah, I'm lucky they didn't invite me to that. Oh, you would've gotten fucked up You should you know what you should do the the the funeral roast of Jay Schlatt on Smosh and I'll come and I will

I will have fun. What is it? You sit in a casket? Yeah, you sit in a casket and then people... It's like people come up and they say a eulogy. It's your eulogy, but it's a roast. I see. And then actually, it was actually crazy. I think it was Courtney had communicated with my girlfriend, Shay, and she had...

Surprised me by coming out and doing a roast like I didn't know she was gonna be showing up Yeah, and she comes out in a black dress like like dressed for a funeral and she's doing like all these roasts of me I'm like I'm at in awe like it was crazy. I

It's a very vulnerable moment. I don't think I've ever done a piece of content online like that where I had been placed myself in such a vulnerable position. But I think I'm glad I did it because it was like it was almost cathartic to be able to like let go and just be like shit on like that. Being dead is vulnerable. He loves just playing dead and getting shit on. Yeah. Yeah.

And I got to roast him back. - Oh good, so you got your revenge. - Yeah, I didn't know that Shay would be, I didn't get to roast Shay back. But honestly, that would have gotten me in trouble. - So when are you guys coming on to my show?

I'm especially looking at this motherfucker because I said... Oh, are you? Because I'm his little side piece. Because you're a side piece. And because I reached out to him. Oh, you reached out to him. Actually, no. Well, I don't know the way it worked out. You reached out to me. And then you said, how about this day? And then I said, it's not going to work. And you said, okay, next time I'm out there, I'm going to contact you. Yes. And that's where... Which is crazy because we're all sitting here. Yeah. And it's like you said that you were going to contact me next time you were in L.A.,

And it's like, you didn't even reach out to get him on Charcoal's Sandwich. I did that. Yeah, you know, I think I'm going to have you on and not you on the show. That'd be awesome. I think that's where I'm at. How does that sound? It sounds great to me, but I'm sort of curious if this guy's just going to be silent until we move on. He just doesn't want to face the fact that... Hey, buddy, face the music. How about this? You're a little shit. Boom. What? That was just for the audience. I'll come on the show.

Oh, there's a transactional. Next time I'm in LA. Should I believe this? No, you shouldn't. Yes, you should. Well, tomorrow I get on a plane and I fly the fuck home because I hate it here. I suppose that is the only option that you're going to have available to you right now since he is flying home tomorrow. Yeah.

First class, too. Oh, good. Yeah. Is that with Chuckle Sandwich money? Yeah. Yeah. The big bucks. I have a Maybach out there that Chuckle Sandwich paid for. Yeah. He's paying the difference between that and a Tesla rental. So it's based on the 90% equity that you have in this business. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, flew first class a couple times. It's very nice. Very nice. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, the cross-country flight first class situation? I don't think I've ever done that. Oh, that is luxury. That's the real first class. That's real first class. Yeah, the first class you're probably doing that's available is just like the big seats. Yeah, that's called business class.

To many people. Sorry, man. Yeah. The only reason I get it is because they give the little shotskis of the alcohol. Well, you can buy the shotskis and any other. They just keep giving them to you? How many do you end up with, you think, by the end of the fall? Most times, on average, I want to say four or five in my backpack. So do you think that the price of those four or five shotskis is worth this? Because you're saying that's the only reason. Yeah. So you're saying that you...

Wouldn't instead just buy those the amount that those would cost you would probably Not be paying the same as yeah, it doesn't seem like he is Cheers, aren't you? You're so fucking pathetic. You're so fucking goddamn pathetic. Is this when it's coming out? What is this the do it should I mediate the oh no? This is just us on a daily basis. Yeah on the daily. Yeah So Andy Padilla you were like

So like because you were you were you were so obsessed with chuckle sandwich Yeah, you listen to it every day. I said I will do anything to be on there like because you had something you want to talk about and like what was What were you what were you here for? I mean the truth is I was planning to get up on the table and do a little goatee. Oh

Just a little. Are you kidding me? A little goatee. You were going to cut up and you were going to spread your ass cheeks. Yeah. And you were going to look at Shalett in the eyes and you were going to say, leave this in. Yeah. I don't think I could handle that again after Markiplier did it. And I was going to say, if you cut this out, I will fucking kill you and your whole family. Wow. Well, that's what he did. That is what happened. Thanks for dredging that up.

Has that ever been correct when you say that? Dredging? Dredging that up. Is that a true statement? Is dredging it up a real thing? Yeah. Yeah. Dredge? That's what you do to like oil. I know, but I've just heard it before and I've never thought, I've always thought it was like, is that correct? Yeah. Yeah.

Think we need some fact checkers in here talking about working team dredge we do have we have one but he was distracted by watching the Podcast just enthralled let's see the real reason I wanted to be on here by the way is because I wanted to read what is on this menu board without Ted's fucking head in the way. Oh, okay. Yeah, I

We have a great menu. There's a lot of yummy, delicious things. We're missing a U. We're missing a U on the burger. Favorite puppy. Favorite puppy. That's the name of my childhood stuffed animal. It was called favorite puppy? Yeah, I named it favorite puppy. It was a beanie baby beagle. Nice. Yeah. That's favorite puppy. Oh, favorite puppy.

Why did you that? We're dredging. I don't want to dredge this up anymore. Yeah, we're dredging a little bit. Well, I just wanted to make sure it was correct. Can I dredge something for you? Sure. Yeah. And I mean, I know we've dredged a little bit on this podcast already, but I have one final dredge that I think you're really going to enjoy. Okay. Oh, and it requires movement. Are you going to go see? Except this way from the camera. What's going on over here?

Is it giving you free product or something? Would you know about rolling down in- I actually have something, Anthony. Oh great. Is this sponsored? No. No, no. I got something for ya. Oh, what is it? You gotta know. It's a box. Of Yum Yum? Oh! Show it to the camera. Oh, it's uh... padlocked. It's a box.

Tell me it's pink frosted sprinkled donut. A pink frosted? Fuck! My worst! My kryptonite! My fucking kryptonite, guys. God damn. Please have one. It smells delicious. Have one, man. You gotta take a pink frosted sprinkled donut. You ordered a box full of them. I got a box of them. I hate to do this. What? I hate to do this. I won't. It's in my contract, actually. I can't be seen with a pink frosted sprinkled donut in or around my body. Especially not inside my body.

Don't th- But, actually, you know what? I will make an exception. I do want one. I will make an exception. If I do a little goatse, you can put it in the... in... not the mouth part. Okay. I guess. Shall we? Yeah. Alright. You take what you can get, I guess, you know? Alright, here, I guess. Here, make some room. Make some room. Wait, what did they just agree to? There's lots of- I guess I'll just eat my sandwich. Oh, there's not much room for legs, or- No. It's a little tough. You might not be able to stretch it wide. Alright.

Get a donut ready. Oh, sure. Get a donut ready. This one has got the most sprinkles. Okay. Is that what you look for? You gotta get the one with the most sprinkle to pink ratio. How do your listeners love you to death? They're doing like a weird agreement thing where... I'm ready. You're actually doing this. I'm ready. Do I have consent? Hey! I mean, yeah, I guess, man. Yeah, man. All right, go for it. Holy shit. Go for it. That's actually a goat seat right there. Go for it.

All right, do you want more? Do you want it in more? Yes! All the way! Okay, okay! Whoa! Cool, well that was great. Thank you. Don't you dare fucking cut that out. All right. Yes sir. Are we done? No. Okay, there's more to this? We got a couple questions. I don't know how to follow that up.

Holy shit. Okay. Should we, um, are you guys, have you guys come down from that yet? No, that was crazy. Um. Are you gonna eat that now? Do I have to? Yes. Dude, you don't have to. Okay. It's good. Is it better? It's great. Better than churro. You motherfucker. So. Is there any other. You lost that one, by the way. So you totally lost that battle. Do you know who won each food battle? Yeah, the teleporting fat guy won one. So, um.

Goddamn! You were deep in that Smosh lore. I imagine that, like, in your experience with Food Battle, you probably learned a lot about different types of food, right? Yeah, yeah. And so you probably have a lot of knowledge about different types of food, so, you know, I mean... What? Why are you looking at me? You know, various types of meats, various types of strips of meats and other things. Are you fucking kidding me right now? What? It's delicious! Various types of breakfast foods, various types of slices of...

What was the biggest win you ever had in Food Battle? The biggest win was Food Battle... What year was it? What year was it? I had a green shirt on. 14? That was the one where you were wearing the green shirt. That was 2014? Yeah. Do you know that for sure? No. Fuck, I thought you knew. Okay, I think it was... Fuck, I don't know. Food Battle 2010? Yeah.

I think it was Food Battle 2010 when I get thrown into the pool to be drowned because Ian knows that if you drown it is an automatic forfeit. But then I arise from the depths of the water and I say I survive drowning by holding my breath. Oh my god, I remember that. That was my biggest win for sure. Oh look!

It has all the breakdown of every single challenge. What food did you win with there? You remember? I... God damn, there's... That wasn't egg roll, it wasn't taquito, it wasn't churro, it wasn't celery, it was whatever the fuck was next. Oh, wait, was it lollipop? Was it rainbow lollipop? Might have been rainbow lollipop. Rainbow lollipop. You know, I got a... No, it wasn't that either. It wasn't?

Damn. People went deep into the lore. Oh shit. Yeah. Keep going down. We can see which one. That one. 2010. I was right. I was right. Yeah. Oh wait. That was Taquito. That was. No that wasn't Taquito. Taquito was 2006. Oh. Chili pepper. Chili pepper. Oh chili pepper. Then you're going down dick biscuit. Is that what it says? Yeah. Wow. You're going down dick biscuit.

Yeah, the classic. Look behind you. Oh, they were the kiki. Yeah. Did you ever, and did it ever cross your mind to do an episode of the food battle with the pink frosted sprinkled donut versus a singular perfectly cooked strip of bacon? That did not cross my mind, actually. Anthony, would you rather have unlimited bacon

But no more games or games. Unlimited games, but no games. What?

I think that Donut's doing something fucked up to you. Once it's been inside... I thought it was pretty clear. Once it's been inside a man's ass, it's just a little... Well, I thought he was... Only edge to it. I thought he was being pretty clear about it. Can you re... Reframed that question for me? You know, I think... Well, I mean, he said it. I think that he was being clear again. I think one more time from... So I wouldn't, you know, wouldn't be a... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you give me that one more time? Anthony Padilla from Anthony Padilla. Would you rather have...

Unlimited bacon. Okay. But no more games. Or games. Unlimited games. That's gross. What are you doing? But no games. Unlimited games, but no games? Yeah. It's a would-you-rather question, and it's... The...

Maybe it's the wording or phrasing that's a little convoluted. Okay, I don't understand. So like we were having such a good time on this podcast. Like we were, everything was flowing. I feel like the drinks were flowing, the food was flowing. And now it seems like you're just being a bit belligerent. I do think that Schlatt put a little Tito's in my water cup. No, I think he was being crystal. I think he was being cut and dry and I think he was being crystal clear. So when he says, unlimited games or no games? No.

And no games? Do you need me to say it again? Yeah, yeah. One more time. More slowly. I think you might need to say it again because he doesn't seem to be understanding it, which is just a little disappointing. Anthony Padilla. Would you rather have... Anthony Padilla. Would you rather have unlimited bacon, but no more games? Or games? Unlimited games, but no games. Unlimited games, but no games? None. None.

I think I'm going to have to go with the second one. The paradoxical nature of it, I think, really resonates with kind of this existential dread that I have about existence. Wow. Okay. Yeah. It is, I mean, it has torn people to their core. Yeah. It's shredded people limb from limb. Has it torn and shredded? Oh, yeah. Like Amelia Earhart when she landed on that island. And was torn to bit from bit.

Coconut crabs. Turned her into... Turned her into pulled pork. Do you think that she goateed before she went out? That's terrifying. I think she was more worried about the plane. She probably didn't goatee, but said something like, uh-oh. Maybe the coconut crabs were goateeing on her.

That's a valid answer. If you were to choose what part of the chuckle sandwich you are, I'm the two, if you know those two little butt pieces of bread you get at the front and back of the bag. I'm the two little butt pieces of bread keeping the whole sandwich together. And he's the mayo. And every guest that we've had on Chuckle Sandwich has been another condiment, another element to the sandwich, another pleasantry, as Schlatt would call it. What would you say that yours is?

I would say I am the lettuce. You know, something that's often... Overlooked. Overlooked, but just a nice little hint, a little crunch. Something that adds... A little bit of texture. When you don't have it, it feels like something's missing. Okay. But when you do have it, you might not even acknowledge it. That's okay. That's okay. Are you implying something about Smosh?

That's up for interpretation. That's up for interpretation. I'm sorry. I think your interpretation. Sorry, I saw a bit there. I think your interpretation is actually very accurate. I just saw a bit there. Don't fucking bring that up, bro. I don't talk about Smosh.

That was a strong view. Yeah. Wow. Well, yeah. No, that lettuce, that's a great one. Honestly, I don't think, have we ever heard lettuce before? I don't think we've heard lettuce. And the second he said it, I was like, you know. What? But he explained it pretty well. Yeah. I thought it was a good one. You have to understand the deeper meaning behind it. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for coming on. Yeah. Thanks for showing us your asshole. You got inside of it.

Oh, yeah. And that donut's right there, Ted, if you want a little munch. I'm not going to touch it. You're getting rid of it. Well, I'm not touching it again. Yeah, and I can't be seen with it. Well, thanks so much, Anthony Padilla, for coming on this episode of Chuckle Sandwich. For all of you listening out there, I hope you have a good day.

Uh, what do you want to promote by the way? Roll up the red carpet. Fuck, I don't know. This camera, this camera, this camera. Show the people what you got going on. I showed you too. You both saw what I got going on. You were hoping to do it the other way? You were hoping, thinking in terms of your career, not your... Not the goatee. Not the little bit of goatee. Not the little goatee. I don't know. Search...

My name if you will I don't know I got nothing to promote man. Just just just channels Anthony Padilla He's a great interviewer and he interviews people from all the worlds of different different shapes and sizes and colors and Creed's nice And he is wonderful and we love him to death and maybe I'll have these motherfuckers on the show Maybe you can see these two little faces next time. I'm over there. You have my word. Oh

And this is on camera. This is forever imprinted. Yeah, this is on camera. What about the next time you're in LA? I live in LA. Beautiful tight ass hole, by the way. Shit, that's probably pretty. Thank you. Thank you. Is it a little bleach? Just on the inner part. Yeah, there's a little bit. Because it has a little bit of a design to it. There's an outer ring. You've got to leave the outer ring. There was something to that. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Bye. Bye.

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