Tomi Lahren on Political Rhetoric, Country Music, Mark Cuban and Unexpected Rap Ventures :: Ep 28 Try That in a Small Town Podcast
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She gets stuck on repeat. It's like, let me see, you know, the roulette in her mind lands on the talking point and then it's like, just repeat that. What's the unburdened line? Yeah, she's unburdened by what has been. I mean, it's just...

It's always that though, that she only has a few things that she can draw from. And it's not a deep well. And I worry about that. I get, you know, Whoopi Goldberg and all these other numb nuts that can't stand Trump. I get it. But the one that baffles me is Mark Cuban. I don't get that. What's his beef with Trump? He's a smart guy, I thought. But I feel much better about 2024 than I did 2016 even.

I think we were all shocked at 2016. I was shocked. I was already kind of ready to accept that Hillary was going to be our president and then the victory. And Donald Trump, I think, was also stunned. The Try That in a Small Town podcast begins now. All right, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Try That in a Small Town podcast. We got some of the usuals. TK.

Or do I call you Thrash? Thrash. She did get Thrash now. K-Lo. Yeah. And we do have a very special guest with us today. She is a Fox News contributor. She is the host of Tommy Lahren is Fearless. Let's go, Tommy Lahren and the House. Thank you for having me. Woo! Thank you for having me. We are so thankful you're here. It's amazing. Speaking of small towns, I don't know where y'all are from, but I probably come from the smallest, at least, state of the group. Sure.

I might get in that conversation. South Dakota? We were just there. Oh, Iowa's bigger than South Dakota. Yeah, Neil and I, we're just there. We went on the governor's hunt with Governor Noem, which you... Were you careful? Yeah. There's a few Tim Waltz hunters out there that use a shotgun. We have a big line. Like, if it's with the governor, your line is huge. Yeah, like you're this far apart, and you're like...

Oh, man, I really got to be ready. Right. But I shot my first bird. You did. Absolutely. I've been there three years. Really? Four years and shot my first bird. Your first pheasant? Yeah. So in the eastern part of South Dakota, you pretty much hit pheasant when you drive down the highway. So it's not a horror thing. I agree. You just killed his family. I know. He was feeling like such a dude. So, you know, let's start with this. You're on the Try That in a Small Town podcast.

Did you know of or had you heard of Jason Aldean before the song Try That for Small Town came out? Well, come on now. No, I mean, some people have. No.

wild not to hear even if you're not a country music fan I would hope everybody well it'd be familiar but yes absolutely absolutely and you know Brittany and I are Instagram friends we we share you know like-minded feelings and ideals you do so I have not met her in person but we communicate on the gram of course and obviously you showed my support numerous times the Maren Morris attacks the insurrection Barbies and then the try that in the small town smears so I'm I'm friends I'm

with the entire family by proxy of Instagram. Well, and that's good. As writers of the song, we appreciate you sticking up for us. That was amazing. Absolutely. Thank you. Well, listen, it's silly to me that it was so controversial. To see the controversy of it, but we live in a time where people are out

or they pretend to be outraged at about everything. But I think since that came out, so many worse things have happened on behalf of the left that it's like this. And also the song has come true over and over and over again. So I don't understand the controversy, but I was happy to be an early supporter. I think that would just be a no brainer for me. We appreciate it. Yes. And a fantastic song just anyway. For sure. Sincerely, we appreciate it because it was a time when there wasn't a lot of support and

There wasn't? The song did well. The song ended up doing well, but it was just kind of doing its own thing. It was kind of minding its own business. The video came out, of course, EMT took it off the air, and then that's when everybody started going with it.

And Governor Noem was a big supporter of ours, too, so we appreciated that. Which you interned, right? I did intern for Chrissy Noem. How was that? Well, you know, it was my first year of college. I was still in college. I was a freshman, so I was her very first intern. So, yeah, it was a good experience. I'm much better being on the media side than working for or with politicians. I will just put it that way. Did you see the underbelly?

I just saw that that really wasn't the world for me. I'd rather talk about it than do it. And, you know, I give credit to people that want to be in politics. They want to run for something. It doesn't seem like a lot of fun to me just being around it. Donald Trump makes it look fun. Yeah. And he's probably one of the only people that has fun with it. But everybody else just seems stressed out all the time. It's not for me. Yeah, that's fair. They go great. Really quick. You're no sad. Like, you know, presidents, they get in there instantly. Great.

Within like a month, completely greater. Well, look what happened to Joe Biden. I mean, the decline. The decline was already declining. There's no decline. Yes. There's no decline. Everything's fine here. He can run. He can run. Okay. Wait, sorry. No, go ahead. I am going to miss the run. The gallop. He's not. He tries to be like, I'm in shape. Look at me. Yeah. With that little.

I'm going to miss that. I will miss that. I will miss talking about Joe. I think because we have Kamala now, we all miss Joe. Oh, for sure. I think fondly upon Joe when I see Kamala because I look at Joe and I see his moments and his Sena moments and I think, this is bad. But he has an excuse. He does. He has no excuse. She cannot claim the same cognitive failings or the age. She just cannot. It's just, this is her. It's all her.

Tim, Walt's had a moment this last week. He has a lot of moments. Which one? Yeah. Playing Madden. Oh, yes. It's so... Can you run the pick six? We're going to run the pick six, Adam. You should run a pick six. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, wow. Whatever he said, you know, it's a fourth quarter. We're going to take it one inch at a time. Yes. You mean yards? Okay, so did you... It's very confusing. Panic mode. What football did you coach? Okay, let's get to this. We're recording this on a Wednesday. Okay.

The election is next Tuesday. This comes out Monday. So we'll have a day. By the way, if you're watching this on Monday, go out and vote. Very important. So Tuesday's the election. I got a question. At midnight Tuesday night, will we have a projected winner?

I would certainly hope so. There's no excuse not to. However, I could see this running into Wednesday. I would hope it doesn't go much further than that, but I could see it running into Wednesday in states that are close. But the way it's looking now, Trump could do so well that it is so big a victory like it was in 2016 where there's just no dispute. I don't think it's going to be that way just because of the way things work now and the way things come in late and whatever they got to do.

But I'm very hopeful that Tuesday night we will know because there's no excuse not to. We've got to know, right? Our producer Jim says no way. He says it's going to drag out. But see, I'm predicting what they're saying. I'm saying it's not going to be close.

Just from what I've witnessed, it can't be close. Well, you hope so, but you feel like there's lawsuits in the night, like, oh, he's winning, and it's like, no, there's lawsuits, and then how long does it take for the president to take? The mail to come in and different things like that. Which is a stressor. It is, but I feel much better about 2024 than I did 2016 even.

I think we were all shocked at 2016. I was shocked. I was already kind of ready to accept that Hillary was going to be our president and then the victory. And Donald Trump, I think, was also stunned. I actually talked to Sean Spicer, his first press secretary. I had him on my show, my OutKick show today. And Sean was saying they thought that they were going to lose, so much so that they were kind of like in a small room in Trump Tower. They didn't hire an official photographer. They had a cash bar at the Hilton Midtown. That's right.

They didn't even pay for, you know, to have a free bar, an open bar. And he was going around with his iPhone taking photos to commemorate the moments because they just didn't think they were going to win. And then when he won, by the margin that he won...

It was incredible. And it was such a great time. We're hoping that it looks like that because 2020 was weird. People were scared of COVID still. People were still upset that Trump wasn't locking us down and keeping us in masks. And people went into hysterics over that. So I think that that largely contributed to it. And then you had people, Republicans didn't want to early vote. Then they didn't want to mail in vote, which I understand, but they,

we had a few years to realize that we had to do something and we have to play the game. And the early vote numbers are looking very good for Republicans. So, you know, you're always going to lose a game you don't play. It's encouraging. I like what we're seeing now, but we cannot get too confident. I'm a little superstitious. We have to just... Well, the people that in the swing states, you know, inflation has crushed them. I think the people that are going to go out and vote are those people. We're going to see that. We're going to feel that. These people have...

felt the pinch, you know, and I think they're going to get out and do it. Yeah. And I think they're coming out. I think that the swing states like Pennsylvania, I think it's going to, these people have really suffered. Yeah. You know, and the left, they're not accounting for that. The people that actually felt it, you know,

So I feel good today. You feel good? This is abnormal. Yeah, because usually I haven't. A couple weeks ago, I was not feeling so good. A couple weeks ago, it wasn't feeling great. Yes. Yeah, we were all bad. I feel way better now. I just can't believe there's that many people out there. I still can't. That half the country is for all of the illegal immigration that's happened. And I just can't believe there's that many people that are for...

you know, drag shows in front of children and all these things that they're okay with. I don't know if they are. I still think most of those people are just bad people. I just think they're Trump bad people.

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Join the movement at drinkoriginalbrands.com. Yeah. I don't know if there are many people out there who are voting for Kamala for the sake of Kamala. I think the people that will vote for Kamala is because they hate Donald Trump and they have it in their mind that they hate Donald Trump and they are willing to cast a vote against their own interests and the interests of their friends and neighbors rather than vote for Donald Trump because it's a head thing for them now. It's like they just will not do it. There needs to be a study done on that. Like, I'm convinced, like, you hate Trump enough...

To affect your own family, your own grandkids, your own children. That's what gets me. It's like you let the media... Okay, if you don't like someone, that's fine. Whatever. But you're voting, like you just said, against your own best interest. Yeah. Because the media says Trump bad or he...

needs to be a study done on it on how that can be yeah what is that seed that's planted well it's emotional there are people that vote just strictly based on emotion and they'll always vote based on emotion and i would argue there are republicans that vote based on emotion as well i mean people that are out there they're single issue voters they're very religious they're going to vote for that one issue and it's an emotional attachment it also happens to be that the policies are in our favor but i get the emotional voter i think this year might be different though i

Because I think that as much as you might have emotions, that's a luxury now. It's a luxury to be emotional and to vote emotionally. Because if you can't afford your groceries and you can't afford your mortgage and you can't afford to take a family vacation, a lot of families, they can't do anything extra. Yeah.

And I don't know if they have the luxury or the privilege of voting based on their emotions and not liking Donald Trump. And they might outwardly say it, but that's why I think the polls right now, the fact that they're this close, there's a lot of people that are not going to tell a pollster that they're voting for Donald Trump, depending on where they live. And he's not going to say it. But when they go in the voting booth, they might sit there and think to themselves, you know, he was president before and he didn't do all these awful things and things were actually pretty good.

I've got to make the best decision because I just want things to be less expensive. And Donald Trump will deliver that. And you don't have to, I mean, you can just list the things that were better than they are now. Right. It's not even really, there's no confusion there. It's like, you know, we're in wars and we're involved in wars and can't afford anything over here. Times are different.

You may have not liked Trump, but times were good. Times were better. We were safer. Peace and prosperity. That's really it to me. It's like how you can see past that. No wars, financially doing well. Now we're not doing well and we have wars. The Middle East is in danger. I don't even see the comparison there. Go ahead. Can we pivot for a minute? I'm interested to see or hear...

why you came to Nashville. You know, like your move. I think the listeners would be, you know, want to hear that. Well, I was in L.A. for three years. I've been a little bit of everywhere. I came from Dallas to L.A. And when I moved to L.A., I was kind of done with Dallas. I love Dallas. I love Texas. You were done with Dallas. That's a good title. Yes, there you go. Feel free to use it. Let's mark it down. There you go. I love Dallas.

I did love living in Texas, but I wanted to go to California because I wanted to impact change. I thought, you know, maybe if I go there and I see these things for myself and I learn, maybe I won't change minds. I'm not going to make California red personally, but I wanted to see things and I wanted to document things. And there were several times I would go like Santa Monica Boulevard and I would interview people for Hannity. And just to watch the derangement, this was in the height of Trump, right? When people were really deranged and California was ground zero for it. No place worse in America. Yeah.

than California during that time. And I learned a lot. I also learned a lot about their voting system. I learned about mail-in votes. I learned about the homeless industrial complex. I learned about Gavin Newsom. I learned a lot of things. And then I realized when I started seeing just how much I was hemorrhaging in tax dollars, I thought this was a fun experiment, but it's time to go. And in Tennessee,

Tennessee is a great place to be. So I left, I was planning to leave anyway, but then when we locked down in March of 2020, I saw the writing on the wall and I thought if I don't get out now, like they might lock us in here. And they're not locking me in California. Yes. I moved here April 1st of 2020, but you know what? Here's the kicker. Nashville was also locked down. Yeah. So then I dedicated my first,

six to eight months of being here, warning people in Nashville, obviously Davidson County is different. Nashville proper is different than Williamson or the other areas. But I dedicated myself to warning people like, what are you doing with this mayor? Who's got mask mandates. We have a curfew. Funny story. I was actually with, uh,

clay travis i was with the pop-offs the band lit oh yeah we were in a house in east nashville because things closed down at 10 p.m we had the little covid curfews and so we went probably 13 of us went to their house in east nashville just after the saturday football games their neighbors called the cops on us the cops came arrested aj pop off for having a gathering of more than eight

Put him in the back of a cop car for having a gathering of more than eight people. And this is Nashville, Tennessee. Wow. Well, and you're right. Nashville proper is a little different than Williamson County, but it's a lot different. And, you know, the whole thing affected us. You know, we have kids and school, and that was, I mean, it was a big deal. How can you lock up the Lip Boys?

come on right they just want to have a good time right 15 days to slow the spread what was it in nashville they took it very seriously in nashville they really did and i really refused to go anywhere that required it because i'm not going to give my business but it's just the way that they apply these and i think people just going back to the election of it all people forget 2020 ever happened i think people are so quick to forget what happened because we want to forget it but think of

what they put us through. They locked healthy people in their homes because of COVID, which had the survival rate of at least over 98%. And children, they knew they had low risk. Oh, you're going to be remote learning. There are kids now that went through generational learning loss. They will never

be on par with older generations or even younger generations because they lost that time and we forgave them for it like nobody was ever held accountable for covid when you think about it nobody was ever held accountable for going back to try that in a small town nobody was ever held accountable for burning down entire cities and small businesses and attacking people and attacking law enforcement officers nobody ever paid the price for that and then tell them and

to talk about January 6th and these people cry about January 6th. I'm like, it was one day. One day. Preach, girl. Preach. Okay, so hearing you go on, it's not a rant, but it's just speaking passionately. It brings up like how you got started, which I think is really interesting to me because I think the first thing that I saw you on was

was probably, was it the Final Thoughts segment? Was that with The Blaze? Is that right? So I've always done- That one blew up a little bit. Yeah, I've always done Final Thoughts. I started off at One America News Network in San Diego when I was 21. Ah, San Diego. Yeah. So I did California, then I did Texas for The Blaze. And then when that Blaze saga ended, I went to LA and that's when I started at Fox. But it's so interesting to me because like, I don't even know when that was, maybe 2015 or so. Yep.

Like that's a, the political, especially conservative world is dominated by older white guys, whatever it is. You know, and they were good, but Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck. And then here comes Tommy. How old were you at this time? Well, when I started, I was 21. 21, this blonde girl coming on and just spewing about Colin Kaepernick. Yep.

Is that the most viewed video you've had? Yes, that was the most viewed video. Yeah, that was when Facebook didn't throttle conservative before they caught on to that whole thing. That was when Facebook was like the wild, wild west. If you could just put content out there and people that wanted to listen to it actually could.

So that was the heyday. And that was going into the election. That was like I was full for Trump. That was a great time for us. But you were like the OG. I mean, nobody was doing that, especially your age or females. I mean, it was like, oh, my God, who is this girl? I know. The first time I saw her, I was like, crap, this is her.

app these libs are in trouble they're in trouble it was a conscious effort to be in the digital space or was that just kind of a product of what you had available to you well for me kind of growing up in the digital era of media i i like to think i'm one of the first people that did it from you know a young person's perspective that i was on networks but it really was social media where i blew up because people were sharing it and watching it and commenting in this that but i never

Yeah.

But who's going to take me seriously? But what I can do is I can speak from an authentic place that young people maybe can relate to, or maybe just people like that from a small town, like people that are just average people. We don't try to talk over or above people. You're from South Dakota like I am. You just kind of say it like it is. And I have a little bit of sarcasm and I don't try to be buttoned up because I can't.

be that. I'm not a lawyer. I didn't go to Harvard. This is kind of just who I am. Like I'm educated, but it's not, I can never be that. And it worked because a lot of people don't want to be that and they don't want to speak that way. And they just want to be themselves. Well, so it's not an accident that like, like you wanted to do this, like you wanted to be out there and be forefront with your ideas and your wisdom and all those things. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I've always wanted to do this and I never thought it would

go as quickly as it did, but I just took every opportunity. And I tell young people now, and I'm sure you know this, and me saying young people, I'm 32. I still feel like I'm the young one in the room, but...

I tell the younger generations that want to do this, like you cannot be afraid to pick up a phone and you cannot be afraid to talk to people and to talk to people that are older than you. Like you can't just send a text. You're not going to get a job that way. So social media has changed. A lot of people can be influencers or whatever, but if you want to get the street cred, like you're going to have to go through the process. And I went through the process while also cultivating like an influencer vein on social media. Yeah. But there's,

There's a lot of people now that just try to do the influencer side of it. It's like there's political influencers, I guess, right? Yeah. Would that be a correct term? But that's, to me, I don't see you as that. Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, you're a commentator. You know what you're talking about. Oh, he mentioned Colin Kaepernick. Not a fan of that guy. Oh, no.

but he might be better than Will Levis oh boy so let's get on the horn that way I mean again not a fan do you follow the Titans at all so I am not a football fan okay football other than the

the political aspects of football. I am not a football fan. And I work for Outkick, which they're obviously heavily into football and SEC and all that. You let them handle that. I let them do that. Because I would sound like Tim Walls if I tried to talk about football and it would embarrass people. I don't know what that is. I thought a pick-sick was like lottery tickets. But I would never put

claim that I did right like I wouldn't I am a baseball fan there's no way to look at walls and not be slightly creeped out I don't care what side you're on even if you're you got to say like

Even if you're a Democrat, you're like, damn, I don't know. Well, look, something's not right with this guy. Is that who he picked? Look who picked him. Yeah. I mean, talk about like, you know, he was... Didn't he do that in Minnesota? Like, tell everybody, like, rat out your neighbors. Yeah, a call line. Yeah, a tip line. During COVID, like, the tip line? I mean...

You let the police precinct burn. It's bad. My wife's from Minnesota, so yeah, she's got a unique perspective. There's people in Minnesota, though. I mean, most in Minnesota. No, there's a lot of people in Minnesota that do like him. It doesn't seem to bother them. But I will say that there are people in Minnesota that are rural, farmer, rancher people that are very, very red. But you look at Minneapolis, I mean...

I vowed really never to go back to Minneapolis. Speaking of them putting a target on the back of Trump supporters, I went to Minneapolis in 2018, and with my parents, I was doing a theater-type political speech show and went to dinner or to brunch with my parents, and they threw water on me, and they screamed, get the F out of here, F you this, I mean, in my face. It was wild. It's just, I don't get this, right? If you can...

with a lot of people like, whatever, say if, I'm trying to even think of anybody, Van Jones or Bill Maher or the Morning Joe, if I saw that person in the street, I'd be like, hey, cool, there's Van Jones. Like, I wouldn't have that seething disdain that they have for conservative people. I don't get it. It's really a derangement. But if you think about it, if you watch these networks,

Just in the last couple of weeks, Trump supporters are Nazis. Trump supporters are fascists. Trump supporters worship Hitler. It's easy to see how the psychosis can set in. If you've been told over and over and over again that people that like Trump are this, you feel licensed to attack those people physically. And that's why I'm really worried after this election. I hope we win, but I'm worried about what Trump supporters are going to face after this election because all these people have been told for the last...

eight years now longer 10 years 12 years that donald trump is the worst person and that he is all these he's gonna put you in camps all this he wins trump supporters like head on a swivel because they are so they've had so many years to stew on this and i think it's going to be worse than it ever was yeah if he wins like don't you think there'll be fire in the streets yes

You know, for a little bit. Yeah, I do. Not in the small towns. Not in the small towns. But, you know. I mean, I think a couple weeks, it's going to be bad. It depends on where you are. Like, I wouldn't want to be in New York City. I wouldn't want to be in Washington, D.C. I went to Trump's first inauguration, and that was horrifying. With the BLM rioting that was going on, the next day, the Women's March, which was also violent.

like violent women hissing in your face. I mean, they were literally hissing your face. I can't imagine what it would be like, but they're so tolerant. They're so tolerant. Yeah, I know. They're so, they're so tolerant of just only the people that think like they do. Yeah. But even what gets me is they accuse, you know, conservatives and Trump of inciting hate, you know, but the rhetoric that comes from that side is so much more negative than

And we're looking at, you know, assassination attempts and they still continue it, you know, after multiple assassination attempts. So they keep their rhetoric going. If that was the other way around, oh my God, I can't imagine. When he gets elected, I worry about that even more. Well, and Neil and I were talking about this. Like, what do you think? Like, do you think that first...

Do you feel like that was a God moment for Trump? I do. Didn't he change a little bit? I don't know if he changed. Maybe for a day. We all thought when he came to the RNC, we're like, oh my God, it's a more demure Trump. It wasn't. No.

It wasn't. But for me, that's what gave me confidence. And I, it sounds, you know, kind of cliche, but when he survived that, and when you saw that moment, the fight, fight, fight, and you saw his life being spared by millimeters to me, that's like all the people that were really worried about this election, because they're worried about the cheating. They're worried about this. And I understand it. People are very worried about that. And it's, it's okay to ask questions, but when he survived that, I thought, you know what? There's a chance he might win this thing because God intervened once and

maybe God will intervene again. You know, maybe there will be divine intervention. I'm not saying that God will win this for Trump, but maybe when he wins fair and square, he'll just win.

Yeah. That'd be nice. Yeah. And Neil said the same thing. He said, he's, he's supposed to be present. I said, or he said, God saved him for that. I said, or he saved him to, you know, save an orphanage. Um, you know, years down the road, who knows why he saved him, but sure enough, he was saved. Oh, ain't no doubt about it. Well, there's no, you know, like I said, there's no, you don't escape a bullet like that by accident.

you know, uh, we've had experience with that. And so it's, right. You know, it's, you definitely, he definitely, I remember, I remember, um, Aldine telling us cause Aldine was hanging out with him there and see, and we were there and he came up to the suite after and was like, you know, he's, he was definitely, it changes you to the extent of like, it makes you think about how, um, things can change so quickly. And I do think it changed him in the sense that

He knows he's here for a reason. Yeah, I agree. I think he thought, okay, God's plan is at work and a purpose is at work. Yeah. To change him in that sense. Yeah, for sure. He was, you know...

I hope he wins too. I think we all, I think for all of our sakes and our kids. He's going to win. He's going to win. I feel good about it. I didn't feel good about it. I didn't feel good about it a month ago. We're feeling better. Yeah. We feel better. We feel better. Last couple of weeks. And also, I do remember in the height of things in 2016, I was like,

remember how wonderful thanksgiving was and i remember how wonderful christmas was i mean i don't know if you're if you've been a trump supporter and through the through the whole thing just remembering i remember just thinking like this everything's great like you didn't have a bad day it's like trump won every day it was like we don't have hillary we don't have hillary and it was such a great it's like thanksgiving was great and i don't have any liberals in my family but i i

imagine the people that did have liberals in their family, like how great was Thanksgiving? How great was Christmas that year? It was just great. I would love to just relive that this year. And how much would your job change? Let's say Kamala somehow miraculously won and

Wouldn't your job suck for the next four years just talking about that? Right. Well, I think it would just suck for us as a country. Our job doesn't really change. When we're commenting on things, it's like there's always going to be something, right? And so people often say, well, the only reason that you have a job is because of Trump. It's like, well, I had a job before Trump, so I had a job during Obama, so no. But-

Honestly, for our business, being able to talk about what a disaster Democrats are for the country gives us endless content. Biden gave us endless content. Like there's plenty to talk about Kamala endless content. So it doesn't matter. Trump wins. We're going to have, you know, there's always something either way. There's a we're long past the days of boring politicians where they just do what you do. And then people just unless there's something major, nobody really talks about it like.

Politics is at the center of conversations now. I would argue more than sports, more than culture, more than anything. I would just like to see Trump win because I really think this country desperately needs it. And I don't know if we'd ever win again if we lose this time. Do you think she will ever answer a question? She can't. She won't. I just want to know. Let's have Kamala on. Maybe you and her can come on. Kamala,

Come on the podcast. My question is, what's she going to do when she loses? Where's she going to go? Back to San Francisco? I just want to know. She'll be fine. Is someone telling her, hey, you should actually answer somebody's questions instead of... I don't think she can. I don't think she can either. No. I don't think she has it. I thought they would have pre-written something. A miniature teleprompter. They do, and that's why she repeats her talking points over and over again. She was just asked yesterday or the day before, and she started talking about, well, I'm coming from a middle-class family. It's like she just gets stuck

She gets stuck on repeat. It's like, let me see, you know, the roulette in her mind lands on the talking point. And then it's like, just repeat that. What's the unburden line? Yeah. She's unburdened by what has been. I mean, it's just, it's always that though, that she only has a few things that she can draw from and it's not a deep well. And I worry about that. I said this on my show.

Hillary Clinton, I never wanted to be president. Barack Obama, I never wanted him to be president. Joe Biden never wanted him to be president. He was diminishing before people thought he was diminishing. He was diminishing in 2020. But when those people got elected, I at least was like, this is going to suck.

But we'll get through it. Yeah. Like they can at least I can't stand Hillary Clinton, but I could see Hillary Clinton talking to Putin or, you know, I could see her navigating international waters. Maybe not like the way I'd want her to, but I could see her doing it. She's got at least the depth there. Kamala Harris.

Yeah, I agree with that take. I agree with that take. Surely not. Surely this can't happen. Kamala and Waltz? What's that going to be? I mean, that's the worst case scenario. I actually can't imagine. It can't get any worse. It cannot get any worse than that. All right, y'all. Hey, listen. This is actually fascinating. We're so thankful for Tommy being here. We're going to take a quick word from our sponsor. We'll be right back. Hold with us. Hold with us.

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All right, y'all. We're back. Yeah, you can only hear the conversations in between. We're back with Fox News contributor, the host of Tommy Lahren is fearless. Did you come up with that title or did somebody else? That's great. I would never just call myself fearless. It was given to me. I would...

I don't have that big of an... It's like you can't give yourself a nickname, right? Yes, I don't have that big of an ego. It's perfect, though. I will take it. But it is perfect. That's a great show name. Neil, you were talking during the break. What were you going to ask? No, I understand. I get, you know, Whoopi Goldberg and all these other numbnuts that can't stand Trump. I get it. But the one that baffles me is Mark Cuban. I don't get that. What's his beef with Trump? Well, all of a sudden... He's a smart guy, I thought. Very smart. Yeah. Very smart. I think...

he like many others before him Trump has broken his brain and I think what it is is it's an ego thing entirely you've got two billionaires and I think that he probably wanted Trump maybe to lean on him more or maybe he

he wanted Trump to ask for his lofty advice. And then I think the way it really changed is when Elon came over to Trump's side. And I think Cuban has a thing against Elon. And then when he saw Trump and Elon, it was like, well, then I'm going to go for Kamala then. But if you listen to him, he says he doesn't like really any of her plans or policies. And he's,

And he says that. He's like, well, I'm not for the unrealized gains. And if she does this, I'm not for that. And I don't believe in eliminating the filibuster. So you don't really believe in any of her agenda items, but you just hate Trump. That's all it is. Which is most of it. Yeah. It's all of it. Well, the conspiracy theorists would say...

Maybe there's a Diddy connection. What have you opened up? Do you have a hot take on any of the Diddy stuff? I think the Diddy stuff was supposed to be a big distraction for people, and it didn't pan out because people still cared more about the election. It went away. Yeah, it went away. We see stuff, but right now everyone's just really, really...

in on the election. After that, then all the conspiracies and all the everything will come forward. But I mean, right now it's just election. Do you think everything will come forward? You think names and photos? No, I think it'll get buried just like Epstein. I think eventually, I think he had to be the fall guy and maybe, but I think that there are too many people that are going to be compromised in high places that I think that it'll be covered up. It'll affect everybody in certain circles and they don't want that.

Well, and we know that you're a Jason Aldean fan of his music and everything and of these two guys on stage every night playing with him.

Did you ever sing? Did you want to sing? No, I'm not. That is not my talent. Not part of your thing. That is definitely not my talent. Trust me, if it was, that's what I would love to do that. I envy people that have that ability, but no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got to interrupt. You are a rap collaborator. That is true. Did you guys know? That is true. That Tommy is featured on...

On a push of T, Jay-Z verse. I sure am. So this is amazing to me. They sampled your voice, right? Or they used it in a verse, Jay-Z's verse. First of all, Drug Dealer's Anonymous, right? Yes. Did they ask your permission and did you get paid for it?

No, they did not ask my permission. They illegally sampled, but because they ripped it from a final thoughts that I did for the blaze, the blaze technically owns it, but the blaze never took action. The blaze tried to make a deal with push a T. Hey, we, they asked for a, you know, a few things, a few credits, um,

And then they, to push a T, they said, we will let you continue to sample this that we own our property, but you have to fly to Dallas and do an interview on Tommy's show.

So that was supposed to be the deal. And we were ready. I was like, push it to you. This was going to be huge. You're right. He made it to his, he had a connecting flight. He flew from wherever to Baltimore. He had a connecting flight? Yeah. Get him out of here. I don't know where he was coming from. I don't know if he was from a small, where he was. But he flew to Baltimore and then he flew back and he never came. And the Blaze never did anything about it.

Really? They never sued. They never did anything. They just let it go. They just dropped it. Well, then they fired me months later and then we had a legal battle. So, I mean, that's the legal battle they chose to fight. But no. And you know what? Honestly, whatever. It would have been nice to get paid off of that, but it was just more like that was the street cred. It's actually kind of cool. You get a little cred, right? Yeah. I mean, there have been a couple different rappers that have used not my voice, but have mentioned me or said something about me. And these were the days when they were really like...

I've had feuds with Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, the game, Joyner Lucas, Wale. I mean, the list goes on. And you're a rap fan, right? I am a rap fan. So it doesn't bother me. I think it's kind of funny. I enjoy that part of it.

But yeah. Who do you like? Like what kind of music? You obviously like that. So who do you like? Do you like any country music? No pressure. Yeah. Country music primarily is always first and foremost country. But growing up in like the heydays of rap, I would say, you know, for me, driving around in my Chevy Malibu in high school. Every girl had a Chevy Malibu. Yeah. My 2001 Chevy Malibu driving around the mean streets of Rapid City, South Dakota, you know, listening to like 50 Cent and the great, the

Great days of, you know, Pop Lock and Drop It and Laffy Taffy and all that. That was what every super white Midwestern girl was listening to, you know? Every now and then I'll move my wife's car out of the driveway and I'm like, and it's just blaring, you know, it's rap music and it's filthy. I'm like, oh my God, man.

baby, you're representing us. How are you listening to that, going through the neighborhood? That's how we live out. And she knows every word of it. Yeah, and that is the heyday of when rap was. And I don't listen to as much rap anymore because it's gotten so filthy. It always has been, but it was at least thinly veiled maybe more so back then. Now it's just a little too much. Did you see that time when Trump Jr. compared a Cardi B lyric? Oh, yeah.

To our lyrics. Oh, yeah, yeah. And we're getting all the flack and we're getting all the hate. Right.

He A-beat our lyrics. You're talking about the W-A-P. Yeah. And there are worse. I mean, when you think about it. And you hear nothing about that and what it's doing to the youth. But our song is destroying the planet. Well, since we're on like pop culture and songs and stuff. By the way, you mentioned you were a baseball fan. Is that because your husband, J.

JP Aaron Seabee, is that because of him or were you a baseball fan previously? I've always loved baseball. I used to really love college baseball. That was my thing. And then obviously being around it through my husband, now I'm a big Mets fan now.

And we had such a good year, but I knew all these guys because when you're a AAA coach, you know, he affected that team so much. And I spent so many days freezing my ass off in Syracuse, watching AAA games in May and June. And then, you know, in July, August being Syracuse,

hot sitting there at a AAA stadium. Like you get invested in these guys. And then a lot of their team went up and made huge impacts on the big league team, like Mark Vientos and Iglesias and others. So I felt like a really big part of that team.

for us, was big time. Hey, they were crushing it during the playoffs. And the World Series would have been so much better this year if it was Yankees-Mets, and I hate the Dodgers. Yeah, so what's he thinking about the World Series going on right now? I mean, he's watching. None of us care anymore, though, now that it's Dodgers-Yankees and now that it's like a blowout, and I just, we can't stand the Dodgers. We're not watching it. No.

I can't. When the Mets were out, I was done. And I was pulling for the Yankees because I don't like the Dodgers. But right now it's like, okay, well, the Mets are out of it, so now we're in full election mode. Like the game that matters is coming up. I got you. So my wife has a question, and this is, I'm sure Tully's wife would have the same question. So your husband is a baseball coach. He's up in Syracuse. He's probably gone half the year, right? Yep. This is like Tully and I.

Does he mess up your system when he comes home? All right, so we can do another hour. Because I know my wife, I mess up her system. Yes. I'm pretty sure my wife...

It's probably calling Aldine saying, book some shows. Yeah. When he went to tour is over. Yeah, where are we starting? Starting early next year? Oh, good. So how does that work at your house? Yeah. So as your families well understand, and for you, it's your back and forth. When my husband's gone for the baseball season, he's gone February through the end of September and he's gone, gone. Like he can come home. They don't really get days off. So he has a seven day span that he can come home and then all start breaking. That's really it. So he's not home for seven and a half months.

and then he's home solidly for several and then it's like when i gotta try to find something for him to do like i try to think like what what can you do find adult friends do something get out but no he messes up all my stuff and i get i'm very ocd anyway and i like things a certain way and so he'll just come in like a bull in a china shop and just yeah well some of the problems too is for us what happens is

You know, we get used to things. We get used to catering. We get used to just things being done for us most of the time. You know what I mean? And then I come home and her major complaint is I treat it like a hotel room. Okay, yeah, so you just kind of throw things everywhere? I don't mean to, but it takes me a good...

three months to get back into home mode and by the time you leave i always tell him i i try try so hard to train him and i try and then we get almost there and then the season starts and he goes back to his feral ways and it's just it's like he just goes back and then it's like everything is unlearned and by the time he comes home again we got to do it all over go easy on him

It's a tough transition for us. On behalf of us, go easy on them. Yeah, go easy on them. It's not easy to slide back. It's very true, though. It's not easy to slide back into the home life. My wife never gets tired of me, ever. And I'm here 24-7, 365. She's used to it. She's acclimated. She's acclimated. When you get used to being by yourself, and then there's somebody just there all of a sudden, it's like...

Oh, really? Yeah, even if it is your husband. Hey, you. Hey, you. I love you so much. I wish you wouldn't do this. And all baseball athlete families, they all have the same thing. Now I know musicians' families feel the same thing, but there could be a complete wives' club of discussing this because everybody has. Oh, there is. Believe me. Yeah, yeah.

I think there definitely is. Yeah, it is a tough, go easy on them. It's hard to slide. You can't? Okay, so give me a show that like on Netflix that you guys binge together and then maybe it's something you watch. You probably watch Murder Mysteries. All women watch Murder Mysteries. No, I'm a big Bravo person. I'm a big reality TV person. Housewives or whatever that is. Yeah, so that's what I do.

you on my own and then it's a struggle to find something we can watch together because it's like it was either baseball which is fine I'm happy to watch the Mets

I won't watch Tennessee football. That's just a no-go for me. Oh, my God. You're hurting somebody's feelings. College, you won't watch Tennessee football? She's talking about college, bro. Hold on. He went to UT, right? Yes, he did. She's a big ball. So was Gaylo. Are they playing Kentucky this weekend? So go Cats. So every time, no matter. I was born in Paducah, Kentucky. I have a friend that's from Paducah, and it's a weird town. That is a weird town. I've never met anyone normal from Kentucky.

I was only there for three months. I got tired of it and I asked my parents to leave even though I couldn't audibly talk. Kalo, real quick.

Your voice is incredibly, incredibly deep this episode. Do you like it? I don't know. Have you been taking testosterone? No, I just haven't slept. It's that J. Gerald Jones thing. I'm sorry. Let's get back to Baltimore. Raise money for the kids. The one city I wouldn't want to come home from is Baltimore. Okay, do you guys watch anything together?

We'll watch, I mean, we used to be, we used to watch Yellowstone together before Yellowstone got bad. We like competition shows and we'll watch those and the Jack Ryans and that, but it's hard to find something that we can both watch together. Yeah. Definitely not like the Netflix. The, my husband would never watch like the nobody wants this or whatever. Like that's so good. JP is not going to watch that. It's too sappy. It's too sappy for me. Like I can't. No, we watch Fox news. Yeah.

And are you doing exactly what you want to be doing right now? Because you seem like you are. Yes. Right? Yes. There is nowhere else I'd rather be than doing what we're doing. And now we just need a victory and then things will get real good for everybody. And you feel good about it. I feel good about it today. Yep.

Okay. As we sit, I feel good about it. I feel like a Britney episode with her on. Oh, my gosh. That'd be amazing. I don't want to say a word. Would you do that? Yeah, I'd love to. Because you guys would, I mean, we'd just go to the couches and hang out. Oh, yeah, we'd just sit over there. Just hold up questions. There you go.

Happy to do it. That would be incredible. Oh my gosh. We're so appreciative of you being here. Uh, so thankful. Listen, we know that you've got a lot going on. Uh,

We're very appreciative. We're very thankful from all of us to try that on Small Town Podcast. Tommy Lahren, watch her on Fox, watch her on our own podcast at Outkick. Thank you, guys. Thank you. We're there. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. That was pretty awesome, right? You see Tommy doing her thing. She's badass. When you get her in person, you feel the energy. It makes me feel good, too, about our... She's young. She's, what, 32 years old? I think so, yeah. It makes me feel good about...

Younger people. Thanks, Tony. Not you. He's younger. I know. No, seriously, though. Yeah. Passionate, good values, good people.

You know, I feel good about it. Yeah, it's great. She's a great leader for the next generation. Very smart. How many people have we had on here? Probably all that are smarter than us. It's like, well, everybody's smarter than us. It's a pretty low bar, though. Except for Britt Saberhagen, probably. I mean, he's a pitcher. Yeah, so...

You're exactly right. Neil, but while Tommy was here, I couldn't help thinking about this, and I think we should implement this. You know, she got famous because, well, I didn't say this is why she became famous, but she had like a two-minute rant at the end of the show. It's called Final Thoughts.

We should have, at the end of our show, Neil do a two-minute thing. We'll figure out what it's called. It won't make the cut. Thrashtalk. Thrashtalk. Thrasher, basher. Thrashtalk. Thrashtalk. Do I get to pick the topic? Actually, Thrashtalk is amazing. Thrashtalk, and you get to go off. No, seriously. Just have your two-minute bit. I love it. That's done. It's implemented. Actually, you can start it. We can all have a part of Thrashtalk, like whatever we're irritated about.

I like Neil. No, I think it's just Neil, Kalo. And if you don't get the two minutes, then we fill it in. If you get it.

I don't know. I think it's only Neil. I think it's called Thrashtalk, and it's just Neil's rant. Does this mean I don't know if he can go for two minutes is the thing? Oh, I could go for two minutes. That's what I've heard. As long as I don't have to research something and talk about something. No, you have so many beliefs and feel strongly about so many things. Oh, I do. There's no doubt. Right. Most of them get edited. No. Unedited, unfiltered content.

Scared and afraid. Terrible Neil. For the first time ever. I want to be known as Amazing Neil. Amazing. I'm thrash. You are to us. It went quiet, didn't it? It went real quiet. You're still hurt by that one fan. I'm not hurt. My confidence level is so... I could give a rat's ass about what anybody thinks about me.

I don't give a shit. That's my whole point. Neither does Tommy.

And that's the beauty of it, right? You got to respect somebody. And to me, it's funny that people call her far right or extreme right. She's really actually not. She's just very direct. Yeah, very. Well, let's be honest. You're far right. If you believe anything, that's not messed up. Yeah, right. You're far right. You don't want to. You don't want men and women's sports. You're far right. Yeah.

I mean, this is stupid. This conversation is ridiculous. It really is. I can't believe we're talking about it. If you don't want men and women's sports, you're far right. If you don't want men and women dancing in front of children, you're far right and you're crazy. But you're far right if you want a safe border, you're far right. But that's weird to me. But that's the reality of it. You're far right, bro.

Wow. You really are, Kurt. Accept it. Is this an intervention? Really? You're far right. We've been meaning to talk about it for 27 episodes. I tell you what, dude. For 27 episodes. Y'all don't even know what y'all created. It's like, if y'all want to do thrash talk, oh my God, I'm going to spend the whole next week in between writing songs. I'm going to spend the whole week. Which is the whole week? Starting next episode. I'm going to come up with so much stuff that I've been wanting to talk about. I mean, I bet my gut goes down.

Really? I'll get us all bottled up in my car. You think you'll lose weight? Oh yeah, I'll lose weight. I'm so excited about Thrust Dog. I'm going to unload so much shit. Really? Oh yeah. It's going to be crazy. This is happening. We may be out of business in a month. I love it. It may be good for Christmas. We're not even in business. This is great. Listen, it's been an awesome, fun day. Uh,

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