Performing at the Ryman, Honoring Kris Kristofferson, and Terrible Neil :: Ep 25 Try That in a Small Town Podcast
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I'm going to over prepare. He is. So I remember like a couple weeks ago, I'd said, hey, do you guys want to like get together, FaceTime on a Sunday or something and work on the song? And like he looked at me like I was a complete idiot. Well, Thrasher is terrible. He is so afraid and scared. Do I have bad comments too? But I can't stop shouting.

staring at this thing, by the way. What is this? Is that a golf club? Yeah, this is actually a golf club. I thought it was a giant bong for a minute. The Try That in a Small Town podcast begins now. All right, y'all. We are back. Back. Better than ever. Bigger.

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Where do we want to start tonight, guys? Actually, you know where we should start is the NSAI thing, right? That's exactly where I wanted to start. Okay, give it to us. Because, yeah, it was this week or last week, Tuesday, the NSAI Awards. It's Nashville Songwriters Association International. Bart Herbison is the guy. And in short, that is the organization that produces...

songwriters' rights worldwide. Everything from, if it wasn't for NSA, we wouldn't have our names listed by the song titles on, you know, the CD jackets are now just digitally or whatever. That's, you know, one of the huge important things they did early just to have some sort of recognition. But even more importantly, later down the line, they're fighting for our rights and for us to make a

which is getting harder and harder as a songwriter. So they have this award show once a year, and they vote on the 10 songs I wish I'd written. All the songwriters do. All our peers. And the songwriters do. And we had thought, you know, and I know we had all talked about it, like, well, no way we're going to get a say in that thing. There ain't no way. Try that and Small Town's going to get nominated. Not even on the list. I didn't think we'd make the list.

Yeah. And just because, you know, politically it is divided for whatever reason that has become a, you know, very conservative song and everything. And so we were just...

blown away. Still hadn't quite processed the fact that we were one of those 10 songs. And we got to perform it at the Ryman Auditorium. Historical, magical, wonderful place, home of country music. And it was very humbling. Wanted to get the award and then from that organization and like...

We talked about that song getting voted on by our peers, which is not just guys. We're veteran songwriters. So you had some young writers that are actually voting for us on that. So it just meant the world. It was awesome. It was just cool for the four of us to be on stage for the first time. Yeah. The four of us. Yeah, we've never performed the song. And it was really, really fun and sounded really, really great.

It was fantastic. And I want to apologize that you had to carry your bass. You didn't have your guitar tech. That's actually me and Kurt's fault because...

I mean, people need to understand that you don't have to lift a finger on the Aldine tour. We're accustomed. You and Kurt have your own techs. Yeah. You don't have to tune your guitars, your bass. Hey. You don't have to change your strings. No. They hand you a pick. They give you a bottle of water and a sip. It's like you're on the sideline and they Gatorade thing. And you don't have to lift a finger. But that night, you had to carry your bass from the parking garage to...

to the Ryman Auditorium stage, and I felt really bad for you. Well, I wasn't going to talk on this, but I do want to start with this. The line is, we're accustomed to having things done for us. I know. But real quickly, tell the story of where that came from, and then we'll get to this. This is one of my favorite stories. So we were, speaking of protecting songwriters, we were doing an event at Spotify headquarters in New York.

And this is probably seven years ago, six, seven years ago. So we're in this little studio and we're doing a live couple songs with us and Jason and broken down acoustic. And so we're in this little studio and it's really cool. But we got our each headphone, we got our headphones on and we each have our own little mixing box. So we're sitting there and we're getting things recorded.

queued up and this, this guy comes next to me and he starts adjusting my box for me, you know, and I'm like, I got it. And he goes, well, he goes, sting was in here last week. He was my all time. Like I love sting, like the police, like I love it. And, and I guess he had asked the guy in the engineer room, you know, sound room, I'd said, you know, Hey sting, what do you need in your, you know, in a box, you can adjust it right here. You can, whatever you need. He goes, Hmm.

I've become accustomed to things being done for me. So he wasn't about to adjust his own little box, which I thought was exactly the story I wanted to hear from my, one of my idols. Really? I love this distinct set the bar. Um,

But anyway, so... Yeah, so fast forward to us being at the Ryman. The other night... Welcome to our world, guys. Yeah, so I'm carrying my stuff and we're kind of walking towards the Ryman and I said, man, why don't we call our Texa come down here again? Well... I know, I want you to tell them your story about the guitar. So yeah, to backtrack even a couple hours before this, I don't know what time soundcheck was. Maybe you guys remember, I don't know, just whatever. Let's just say four.

an hour before we have to be down there for soundcheck i'm at my house i'm about to leave and i've i was like oh my gosh i don't what am i gonna play yeah i don't have an acoustic no guitar is gonna magically appear a guitar player doesn't have an acoustic i am he's not our lead guitar player oh yeah he's the guy so i did i was like i don't have an acoustic what am i gonna do

And I don't have a tech. So I called Guitar Center and said, do you rent acoustic guitars? Oh, my God. They did. And first you had texted. Yeah. I know you texted me. I'm getting out of the shower and I'm looking at that and thinking, oh, gosh. We play in just a little bit. Is this a joke? An hour away. So I stop at Guitar Center. They rent me a guitar.

It doesn't have a battery in it, by the way. I show up without that. I told our Texas, Drop D is my tech, and Alan and Tyler, they were not surprised by that story at all. No, I told Tyler, my tech guy said, I've still got it rhyming. I took my bass out of my bag. I took a tuner, a cord.

Did it myself. Like the old days. Like when I was in the club bands back home. It's good for you. We're good for you. It wasn't good for us, but it was...

It was a good moment to know that we still could do something for ourself, which was funny. Your wife, Lana, was putting on a text of like what we'd need for that day. And you jumped in and you jumped, oh, I need a DI. I need two cables. And I was like, I don't know. What do I need? I don't know. Oh my God. And even, and Tully, as you know, you kind of said that you did everything on your own, but first you did say, hey bro, you got a tuner? Yeah.

I said, yeah, you can use mine. And it's a pretty standard tuner. And he gets it and he plugs in. He goes, this thing's all messed up. I don't know what. I said, it's the tuner I use. He goes, do you tune in a different tuning? I said, yeah, I'm a whole step down. He goes, I can't use this. I can't use this. I'm thinking to myself that night, I'm like, these guys are helpless without their techs. Oh, my gosh. They're helpless. I should see us in an airport.

I can't even get through an airport on my own. Oh, without my wife, I'd be completely lost. I'm a follower. I can say the same thing. Absolutely, yeah. I am. To that degree. But Kurt and Tully, that's a different level. And I'm like, they're lost without their guitar techs. It's our fault because we didn't tell them to be there. And I wasn't thinking. I wasn't thinking. I got a feeling the next gig we do together, there might be two buses there.

And a whole road crew. I can guarantee you, next time we do that, we're having our techs there. I hope we have that problem. I hope we're at that same award show. I won't know what to do with a guitar tech. Yeah, I mean. You won't have to do anything. No, I won't. That's the point. I won't trust him. I won't trust him. You can trust him. But I will say, yeah, getting back to it. I was just going to say, getting back to that night, it was awesome. It was a great ceremony. It was a great event.

time you kind of brought it up is the first time that we had been together and we played that song for anybody. That's the first time we'd ever done it. God, it was so good. And I think, hopefully we have footage and hopefully they'll insert it

But it was awesome. It was really cool to be up there with you guys. Kalo started first verse. What was so cool is when y'all got there before soundcheck, we rehearsed it in a dressing room. Yeah. And that's the only time we ever went over it. Right. Yeah. And we went out there and killed it. It was awesome. Which is way against my comfort level. Like, I'm an over-preparer. He is. So I remember like a couple weeks ago, I'd said, hey, do you guys want to get together and FaceTime on a Sunday or something and work on the song? And they're like,

And like, he looked at me like I was a complete idiot, you know? And, uh, and then, but we, I was glad that we got a chance to rehearse it. And then what was funny is that by the time we got up, you're kind of getting amped up and you've, you've heard some speeches and some great songs and performances and everything. And Alan Jackson had been up there, been a really epic night. And, uh, and we're sitting there and kind of in the, in the go room, green room, whatever. And, uh,

And Neil said, hey guys, when we get up there, he goes, I want to say some things. And that always scares me. First off, when Neil says that, what kind of things? He goes, oh, just how much we love Bart and how much NSAI has done for us in the songwriting community. He goes, and I said, well, we don't have a timeline. I'm not sure if we have a lot of time. And he says, no, I think we should all say something. I said, oh, Neil, I don't think we have time. I don't think we have time.

Time to do that, you know? And he goes, well, I'm going to start. I said, okay, so you're going to say something, and then we start. No, it sounded good at the time. Well, I liked where your head was at. Then we get out there, and he goes, hey, we're just going to start it, Cody. Well, what he does, and there's a video thing of us talking about the song, which they did for everybody, which was really good. It's about a minute and a half.

But so Neil just starts playing over it. He's doing that noodle thing. Yes. It's like really good. And I was like, oh my God, we're vibing. We're vibing. We all jumped in. Neil's going to say something. And then like he said, he goes, let's just go into it. Let's go into it. And then I think actually when it started, there was a wrong chord like right in the beginning. That was me. And I'm like-

And I'm like, okay, stay on key. You know what the key is. It still worked. You couldn't tell it. Oh, it worked. It worked fine. Oh, yeah. But it was just kind of funny because he goes, I'm going to talk. I'm going to get up there and I'm going to give my heart and everything. And he gets up there and he goes, no, let's just play it. It felt right at the time. But anyway, it was a very special thing. And it was very fun for me and just a blessed experience.

to be able to play with you guys for the very first time. And it was really cool. Like Neil and I played writer shows together before, but then you actually have legit, incredible songwriters and musicians to help you play. I got so inspired when they started playing. I was like, okay, now I'm going to be spoiled. I'm not going to want to do it by myself anymore. But it was really great. That was a great night for us to like to...

to do that in that room and, you know, get that award and voted on by the peers, which I'm with you guys. I never thought that would happen. People don't understand. It's like,

You can win Song of the Year at the ACMs or the CMA or whatever. You can get number one awards at ASCAP. But when you get the one that your peers, the other songwriters, all in town and abroad voted on, when you get that award, that's real. There's no politics involved. There's no nothing. And they have to sign their name to that. And what was great when we were finished and we all took that picture together on stage, like all the...

All the young writers, you know, the kids that are in town today writing, all came up and were just, you know, thanks for writing the song, you know. Yeah. And it was really... I think most of them were in shock that we actually broke through with that song. Well... You guys did it. You guys, this song actually broke through. I think so, because you rewind, what is it, maybe a year and a half, not quite, and

is when the song came out and nobody would attach their name to saying that's a great song. Right. I think everything's calmed down, guys, in a good way. I think it feels like people really see the good in it, which was written and recorded really truly with good. Yeah, truth. And it feels like everything... Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Maybe I want to believe this, but I feel like everything's kind of calming down. Yeah. I know for myself, I have...

legit political fatigue. Like, I'm just like, you know what? I don't have an, I don't, this is, this is too much. Like, this is, I think the song, I think people are really, I know on the road, I mean, this whole tour, it's been a really, hasn't felt divisive. It's felt unifying when we play that song. Yeah. It feels a little different in a good way. So, it felt that night at the Ryman, it felt like everybody really,

enjoyed it and really listened to it instead of being told what it was saying. Before we played there that night, it crossed my mind. It's like, how is this going to go over tonight? Me too. Because that place, the Ryman was full. Sure. And you have all walks of life in there. You have all walks from both sides of the aisle in there from the music industry. How is this song going to be perceived as opposed to all the other...

The other ones that were played. And I think we were the next to the last or the last one played. And I had, it crossed my mind. Like, how are we? And then I didn't care anymore. I was like, you know what? I don't care how it's perceived. We're going to go out there and perform this thing. We got through the verse. And as soon as you hit the last lyric, try that in a small town at the end of the chorus, you heard...

It was like, okay, this is good. It's good. Well, yeah, and you're up there with some huge songs, you know, like last night, you know, Morgan Wallen and Morgan had his video. He was on the road, but it's cool, you know, seeing him up there congratulating his, you know, the co-writers of that song and Need a Favor. He had Jelly Roll, you know, talk and stuff. And that's a cool song. It was fun for me. I know it is for you guys, too.

just to, because whenever we're doing a writer's show, obviously you're not watching yourself, we don't get the chance too often to see writers perform. So it was cool, you know, for us to, and then our buddy, Monty, Criswell, got up there and, you know, being a cancer survivor and,

He was a last minute thing too.

and has a big old hit like that. But anyway, so many others, and it's just a special night. It was an honor. Hopefully we get to do it again. It was such a great night. Very thankful. Hey, guys, this is Try That in a Small Town Podcast. We're going to take a pause for our sponsor right here. Hang on with us. ♪

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And welcome back. This is Try That in a Small Town podcast. And we've been talking about what an honor it was. And it was incredible at the NSA High Awards. I think we do need to mention we lost a legend in our business, Chris Christopherson. And, you know, he's a great guy.

And speaking of the awards, there is a Chris Christopherson Award that they give out, I guess, every year. I think a lifetime achievement. Yeah, lifetime achievement, which obviously would be a huge honor. I think it was Alan Jackson this year. Is that right? Yeah, it was great, and his speech was great. Oh, it was fantastic. He was absolutely fantastic. I know we're probably all huge Chris Christopherson fans. Tully, do you have something you want to say there? Yeah.

it's hard to imagine every time we lose an icon like this, you know, it's hard to imagine this world without them in it creatively. And I was always such a huge fan of the Highwaymen. And it kind of hit me that Willie's the only one left. You know, Johnny Cash gone, Waylon's gone, Chris is gone. Willie's the only one we got left. And, and,

And Christopherson also had such a great career in acting too. You know, I remember watching him in the Blade movies, played Whistler, you know. He's like the epitome of cool to me. He's so cool. Everything he does. He's so cool. And it's like incredible songwriter, like iconic songs.

Just a cornerstone of American culture, creativity. It's hard to lose those. And we only have a few of those left. Yeah. They should take note from Willie and smoke more pot. Yeah, maybe something to it. But anyway, yeah, huge loss. It's just hard to imagine...

You know, he's just kind of in the fabric of America. Yeah. If that makes sense. I grew up on one of his songs. Loving her was easier than anything I'll ever do again. It was like, I listened to that song when I was young. I mean, like before I moved to Nashville. It was like in my junior high years. Wow. Tom Paul and the Glazier Brothers. Wow. And I would...

I would put that song on repeat and just rewind the cassette and go back and listen and learn those harmonies. And that was a Christofferson song. And the list is so long of songs that he's got that influenced me as a songwriter. Yeah. He's just one of those guys that you... I remember feeling very similar when we lost Petty. It's just hard to imagine like...

he has to be here. What do you mean he's not here anymore? You know what I mean? Like it's that kind of thing. So anyway, you know, it's definitely a stop and think moment, you know, start losing these people that you grew up with and that you just assume will always be here. Yeah. And he, you know, like you guys said, he just had that,

that it factor in, in every possible way. You know, you just, some people are just cool. They're just born cool. They just are. That's how he was. He's just cool. Thank you, Kayla. You're welcome. Yeah. But, uh, my, my favorite song, um, you know, I mean many, but my favorite is a Sunday morning coming down and, um,

Can I read the first verse of that? It's brilliant. To me, as a songwriter, so he says, Well, I woke up Sunday morning with no way to hold my head that didn't hurt. And the beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad, so I had one more for dessert. Then I fumbled in my closet through my clothes and found my cleanest dirty shirt. Then I washed my face, combed my hair,

stumbled down the stairs to meet the day. I smoked my mind the night before with cigarettes and songs I'd been picking.

But I lit my first and watched a small kid playing with a can that he was kicking. It just goes on. It's just so visual. Even things like my cleanest dirty shirt, which somebody might say, well, that wouldn't be hard to come up with. Well, it really is. The simple things are very difficult to come up with. And just the pictures of that and having the...

No way I could hold my head that it wouldn't hurt. So I had another one. There was only a handful of writers that could make simple...

sound like that and people, you would hear the song and people would go, I could have wrote that. No, you couldn't have. Simple is not easy. Yeah. And he was one of the handful of writers that did that. Yeah, if you just gave a title to the best songwriters in Nashville, we'll say even, and said, okay, the title's called Sunday Morning Coming Down.

You got, you got two hours. It would want to be an interesting experiment if it hadn't already been a hit, um, you know, to see what you'd come up with. But I just don't think it'd be that because that guy to write that you have to live that. So you don't just, you don't just write that. If Kurt says, Hey, I've got this idea guys, it's called Sunday morning coming down. It's about this guy, you know, he's drinking too much. He's going through some things, you know, um, you know, you have to live it to come up with lines like that.

You know? 100%. Yeah. And I think that's why he was so good. Like even in the roles that he, you know, an actor, he's a great actor. You know, he came across like just really good. Just cause I think he lived a lot of that stuff. He was the epitome of badass. Yeah. Cool. Exactly. You said it best. That's the best way to describe him is just cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He inspired a bunch, a bunch of people and me included for sure. So. Did you get new glasses? Yeah.

These are not. They're kind of new, yeah. They're readers, but they're not readers. I can see you at three feet real clear. I can see you guys. Are they what they call progressives? No, no, no. They're like the lowest readers you could get, the lowest number of readers you can get, where I can actually read my phone and look at you guys, and you guys look clear. And you guys are actually better looking than I thought. Yeah, I've been trying to tell you that. It's the lighting. It's the lighting.

Some people don't have, they just wear the glasses and it's just clear glass. Do I look better in glasses or without glasses? The silence speaks volumes. We're like, God, what do we say? No, they look great. Actually, I'm jealous. No, they look great. Because I got these, which are just straight readers. Yeah. Bad times for me. When did it hit you? What age?

Do I have to say? You don't have to. It really hit me about five years ago. But see, I even hate talking about this with somebody that's got actual eye problems to my left. But, you know, that might be a subject for another day. You know what we should talk about? I got a great one. Let's go talk about it. Do you want to talk about it? No, I mean, yeah, I can't really see out of my left eye. You can't see out of your left eye? At all. It's like the best way to describe it is if you're

trying to look through like a fishbowl. You know, does that make sense? Yeah. That's what it looks like through my left eye. Huh. I didn't know that. I had a detached retina. I had no idea. No, I knew he'd had some problems with one of his eyes, but I didn't know you couldn't see it. Yeah. Technically, there's objects in there, but it's been an adjustment period. And it really gets very interesting on...

So it happened like, not to, this is a long story, but you know, three years ago or so opening of the tour in Long Island and like long story short by the showtime, like I couldn't, my eye was kind of black. And so it turns out I have like a retina disease in my eyes and it's so they're kind of deteriorating. So anyway, all that said, like it's been an adjustment, you know,

Getting around stage in the dark. It's a thing. There's like a moment in Hicktown. There's a blackout moment. And Tony and I go to the front of the thrust. And it's kind of like that. It's not funny, but it's funny. No, it is. So he can't really see. And I can see him.

like I don't want to fall off this thrust. And sometimes I just kind of grab his back like, we're okay. If you're in the crowd and you look closely when it's blacked out, so I don't know how far I am from the thrust, like if I'm falling off of that on the left side because I can't see it in my left eye. So I'll either grab Kurt's shirt and kind of- Like a seeing eye dog. What's really funny is right before that song, we do If I Didn't Love You.

And so the piano kind of has this thing that kind of drops down. And then, you know, in the end of the thrust, it kind of drops down and then the floor comes back up. So there's this big hole in the thrust, like right before Hicktown. So every time we're walking out in the dark, I'm like, I hope that piano floor is back up or if I'm going right down, but it's kind of a, yeah, if you, if you're in the crowd and you can see, I've kind of got like a pinky, pinky,

Or kind of some little guy. Are y'all holding pinkies like going out? Well, I'll tell you this. Years and years ago, my father had a battery blow up in his face. He was leaning over the hood. The hood was up and he was leaning over the engine compartment. And there was something wrong with the battery. It was dead or whatever. And he put a terminal back in and it blew up. And he went blind.

He's blind in his right eye. He has been ever since, but he tells everybody, he told me that over time, the good eye picks up your depth perception and it takes over what this eye couldn't do anymore. Yeah, my brain, it's over time. Every now and then, I realize I'm not thinking about it and it's like my brain's starting to like...

put everything over on this side, on the right side. And so if I close my right eye, that's, you know, but it's interesting because when I'm playing, you know, I think live I've gotten a little more, not tentative isn't the word, but like a little more deliberate in my playing. Cause when I look at my neck, I can't, when I look down at my left eye, I can't really see my fretboard anymore. So it's like a, it's a little, it's a little more deliberate. Like it's, it's, it's,

It's not free and easy, I would say. You don't trust as much. Well, what it is... Up there, you don't realize in the lights, in the lights, in the spotlights, everything gets washed out. Like, you can't really see much anyway. And so it's a...

It's been interesting. It's been an interesting new challenge, I'd say. Well, you still look cool. You haven't lost your cool factor. That's right. Amen. Thank you. I learned that when I was 18, I learned that I was 100% red-green colorblind, but I didn't know it for- He is colorblind, by the way. I was 18, and I was actually getting processed and having taken the physical to get in the Army, and I'd never taken a colorblind test. And-

So, you know, have y'all taken a test like on the internet or anything? Have y'all taken a test for colorblindness? Anyway, what it is, is they have these pages and circles, like a bunch of little dots, say in green. Okay. And then in the middle of the green dots, they have red dots. Like, let's say it's the number 36. Okay.

Oh, yeah, I have seen those. And so when I look at it, I see nothing except the green dots. I'm like, oh, this is a trick question. There's no number in there. But if you looked at it, you'd say, dude, that is screaming 36. And the same if it's a red and green I can't see in there. It's very, very interesting. It's fantastic to know that you're actually officially not colorblind. And you wrote Try That in a Small Town. So all that stuff they said that you were a racist and all that stuff, it's all bullshit. Yeah.

It's all bullshit. See? It's officially bullshit now. Yes. We know that you're not racist. Right, right. Because you are colorblind. I am colorblind. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

So we were talking before we got going today about we have a fan. We have a fan. We have a fan. He is a super fan. He's amazing. He watches every show and gives us so many positive comments and encourages and all this stuff. And so we definitely wanted to give him a...

A shout out for Ed. Thank you, Ed. Do we know Ed's last name? It's hard to pronounce. I don't know if we know. I mean, I know we know it, but I'm not sure if I have it. Ed, you know who we're talking about. We're calling you out, Ed. Ed knows. And he bought some of Gary's wine. He did? He did. Which is really cool. The Vox wine. Yeah. The Vox owes us money then. And he's got a small town, trying to get a small town mug. Yeah. He's dug out.

Yeah, so he's a super fan, and that's really fun to get a lot of love like that. He's always got the best comments if you go through the YouTube. We love looking at those. By the way, please comment because we love seeing that stuff. We love hearing what you have to say. Even the bad comments. Even the bad comments. Let us fly. For sure.

Well, we've got to share our bad comments. Tully, would you like to share? We mentioned a super fan. We also have a not-so-super fan. And really, not as much about the show. I think they like the show. They just don't like one of us that much. Which one would it be? Who is it? No, I've got it in front of me. Read it. Well, what is it? Because I can't find it. It's from AmazingDV.com.

Amazing D. Yeah, and I don't even know what they're replying to. All it says is, well...

Thrasher is terrible. I love it. He is so afraid and scared. And I guess they're referring to the last episode. Well, you don't strike me as afraid or scared. No, but you didn't have a helmet on, so maybe they thought you were scared because you had a helmet on? Is that what it was? I don't know. I don't know. I commented on some of the NFL stuff, you know, the –

the players wear on the back of their helmets that I'm sick of. Yeah. And stuff that's in the end zone that doesn't exist. And I'm like, so I don't know what he's referring to. But Thrasher is terrible? Maybe we need a movie. That hurts. That's kind of rough. Elaborate. And I would love to know what. Well, DV must be amazing. So teach me how to be amazing, DV. Yeah.

If I'm so terrible and I'm so afraid and scared, please, DV, show me. Amazing DV, show me how to be amazing like you. But is DV the person's initials? Is that what that is? It says at amazing DV. Okay. I don't know. When I hear DV, I think of downvote.

I don't know. I want Amazing DV to teach me how to be amazing if I'm so terrible. Yeah, I think that deserves... Well, it's just one person's opinion. I mean, he likes the three of us. I'm so afraid and scared of Amazing DV. Look at the positive side. Help me. He loves the three of us. Yeah, on the positive side, he does love... I mean... Here's to Tully and I. The Amazing DV. He sounds like a magician. The Amazing DV. The Amazing DV.

Now, now. We don't want to lose a fan, Neil. Because he is currently watching and listening. I don't want to be terrible, Amazing DV. Please guide me. Anyway, so that would be good to get some detail critique. We need some clarity on what... So that you can work on it.

And we can work after hours if you need some guidance. We can't expect you to be as polished as the other three of us, Neil. Right, because we've been doing this exactly as long as you have. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Actually, I do love the comments. Comments and questions, more of those. Yeah, because it was a fun episode. We've done a couple of them where we took some questions and we...

have some people write in. That is fun. Those are fun. Those are fun and we love interacting. I can't even tell you how much we appreciate you guys watching this stuff, but we need to do one of those again, right? Yeah, because actually it makes for a good episode actually. Because we love, I would personally love to know like what you'd,

like us talk about what you don't like us talk about like where are we sucking where are we good are we good are we just sucking are we all like neil are we all afraid are we all terrible and scared you know you know what though it sounds like my old hater i had oh oh yes you need one of those you need you need a that really helped you it did yeah it helped me it really did i want amazing dvd i love you amazing dvd

I'm not taking your words to heart. We're kind of jumping all over, but I can't stop staring at this thing, by the way. What is this? Is that a golf club? Yeah, this is actually a golf club. I thought it was a giant bong for a minute. No. Well, I didn't know what it was. No, it's full of debt. It's shaped. I didn't know Neil smoked that much weed. Yeah.

Atlanta? What's going on? No. I mean, it's actually pretty intimidating, honestly. That's what I was going to say. It's got whiskey in it, and you pull the lid off over there, and this is a driver. Where did you get this? Oh, it's a driver. It was a gift from my girlfriend's boyfriend. Your girlfriend's boyfriend. My daughter's boyfriend. Wow.

Okay. You're sliding off the scale. Well, Thrasher is terrible. Now I'm scared. It's from my daughter's boyfriend. Oh, okay. It was a gift. I'm scared and afraid of this because I thought it was something else. That makes me think, Neil, I was going to tell you today on the phone, but I forgot. My girlfriend's boyfriend. Wow. So you're getting his golf bag. You're getting...

your daughter's boyfriend's golf bag this coming week, right? Yes. We have to go to California and do a benefit. That's right. Does he listen to our podcast?

I don't know. Who? Her boyfriend? Roger. No, I don't know. He might. It'd be a great- He does. He does. Well, okay, this won't air before then. It'd be a great opportunity. So you get the golf bag and then you kind of find something in there that's like terrible. And then you say, you talk to your daughter and say, I found this in Roger's bag. Like a little black book? Or something like really-

What are you getting? Why are you starting to stir the pot? I am disturbed. Amazing DVI. I am terrible. You're not being amazing. You're not amazing, Caleb. Funny for you. To who? Not to Roger. I'm getting news for you. Y'all be pranks. Oh, I like that. That comes off. And then it pours whiskey.

All right, so over the next week or two, I mean, you guys got to be getting close to the end of the tour. Yeah, we're done. We're officially done. Officially done, okay. Real quick, can we talk about the last show we did in Arizona in Tempe? Okay. Oh, you mean the Stifling Heat? So we fly out to Tempe called Boots in the Park. It's a really cool festival. They have a number of dates we've done.

Anyway, at nine o'clock, it was 101, right? Yeah. It was 101. 112 was the high of the day. AM? Dude. It was... So we... Nine o'clock, we get out there at night, 100 degrees, very hot. The weirdest thing, though, ever, we didn't sweat. So, you know, people say, oh, it's a dry heat. Funny. It's a dry heat. Yeah. Yeah. It was really strange. Because we played hundreds of shows out in Arizona. And...

Full sweat. But something in that heat was like, I wanted to sweat. It felt like being in a sauna, but you couldn't sweat. You felt trapped. Like, oh my God, please let me sweat. Please let me sweat. Yeah. I played golf in Palm Springs one time. It was 114 degrees. Jeez. And I never broke a sweat. It's weird. It's odd. But I'm not- At 114 degrees. In all the years though, in all the years of playing shows in Arizona- Yeah, never had that. Never-

I mean, and I'm saying like 25 years worth of shows in the heat out there, like always ringing wet, you know, but it was, it was, it was, it was strange, but yeah, wrapping up. So, yeah, I mean, we're done now. And I guess to your question, we're about to go in and cut part of the new record. Nice. So we're stoked about that. We're going to probably cut, I don't know, a handful of songs, but that's always fun. And usually we schedule that obviously when we're not on tour. So we're not kind of, uh,

So we're kind of focused on one thing, but that's going to be exciting, right? Yeah, that'll be fun. Yes. New music coming everybody's way here sooner or later. Sooner. Oh, and Neil and I, we played that show for Brett Saberhagen out in California. That's great. Raising money for Sabes Wings and helping so many families that are impacted by cancer and everything. And it was just a great event. We got to meet a bunch of people.

and I should have known more names as they walked up to me. I just knew they were all bigger than me. You had a lot of athletes out there, and they do not look like normal humans. I'm glad that y'all talked us into going and doing that. I'm sorry that you guys couldn't have been there. That's going to be something that I think we can all do for a long time next year together for sure, but it's just such a great event, and Brett and Candice are amazing.

Truly inspiring people. Yeah. We love giving back.

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