The Democratic Party lost due to their disconnect with mainstream concerns, particularly on issues like inflation and border security. They also alienated voters by pushing extreme left ideologies and failing to provide a clear, relatable message.
Political divisions strained personal relationships, making conversations and friendships more complicated. The social changes and heightened tensions, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic, polarized discussions and led to disagreements among friends and family.
Social media exacerbated political divisions by amplifying extreme views and making it easier for people to isolate themselves within echo chambers. It also became a platform for name-calling and misinformation, further polarizing the electorate.
Some people felt uncomfortable voting for Trump due to the constant media portrayal of him as a divisive figure. They were also influenced by the rhetoric that labeled Trump supporters as ignorant or extremist, making them hesitant to align with that narrative.
The legacy media, particularly outlets like MSNBC and The View, contributed to the divide by promoting a one-sided narrative and dismissing concerns of the heartland. This created an echo chamber that reinforced existing biases and alienated a significant portion of the electorate.
The 'Common Sense Wave' was significant because it represented a broad coalition of voters, including independents, black men, and Hispanics, who prioritized practical solutions over party loyalty. This movement was driven by concerns over inflation, border security, and a desire for more moderate policies.
The COVID-19 pandemic heightened existing political tensions and brought issues like government overreach and individual freedoms to the forefront. It also exposed divisions in how different communities and political factions responded to the crisis, further polarizing the country.
Celebrity endorsements, particularly those from wealthy and out-of-touch celebrities like Beyoncé and Cardi B, were largely ineffective and even counterproductive. They reinforced the perception that the Democratic Party was disconnected from the everyday struggles of ordinary Americans.
The election results brought a sense of relief and celebration for the hosts, who felt vindicated in their support for Trump. It also provided a moment of unity and restored faith in the democratic process, despite the intense polarization leading up to the election.
The hosts emphasized that faith plays a significant role in guiding their political views and actions. They believe that regardless of who is in power, God's plan ultimately prevails, and it is important to have faith in that plan rather than in any single political figure.
So they bring out Beyonce, which who's listening to Beyonce thinking, yeah, she understands what we're doing. Yeah, she knows how much groceries are. I know. She didn't even buy her own groceries. How could the most pissed off, bitter women in the world have names like Whoopi, Sonny, and Joy? That's hysterical. The heartland of this country is smart. They're smart, and they have a lot of values, and they'll deal with a lot.
but telling them that you're not feeling inflation, it's not that bad when they can't afford food. The Try That in a Small Town Podcast begins now. We are Try That in a Small Town Podcast. I'm Kurt. I'm going to introduce myself first.
I'm going to call you by your real names, Kelly and Neil. That's so boring. And we are recording from the Patriot Mobile Studios. How does that feel? Patriot Mobile. It feels good. It sounds good. First day. It's like we're official. I know. Like people, I wish there was something to talk about this week. Yeah. You know, I don't even know where to begin. Something current. Uh,
maybe we'll set it up like this. Even from the beginning, we said that this, this isn't a political podcast. No, but with like, I mean, we did write the song, try that in a small town and we all have beliefs and core values. And that's kind of where we are with this thing. And the election isn't necessarily about what, whose foreign policy is better. There was just like some core values that I think that we all felt that
which is why we voted the way we did. And maybe it was set up like this. I get a lot of people saying they don't feel comfortable with how I voted.
Or questioning why I voted the way I did. And maybe we'll talk about that a little bit today. But yes, if you've been under a rock and you don't know, Trump did win the election. You actually have people that friends. Yeah. Yeah. This is pretty close to home and maybe we'll we'll get there in this podcast. Do you have lib friends?
I do. Really? I mean, listen, there's all kinds of people in the world and there's good people. You can't act surprised by that. Well, I mean, I know we know live people, but actual friends? For sure. Really? Yes. For sure. I mean, we're an entertainment industry. I mean, you got to... Yeah, and the unfortunate part is what I was going to say is that I'm okay with...
them standing up for their rights and what they believe in. The problem is it's just so condescending that they don't think that we have rights. We have feelings about how to vote too. So I don't want to get too deep in here too quick. Oh, well, let's go. It's all right. So, Hey, I know you guys were a little bit nervous. I got nervous actually before the election, but,
How did you feel the night of the election? Did you feel good about it? When did you start to feel better about it? Well, it's no secret. I would talk to all you guys about this. Let's be honest. We didn't have a great second debate. And after that second debate... You're talking the first with Kamala. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I didn't feel great after that. And I don't think any of us did. I know I didn't. I felt like she was...
I knew the people that were going to vote for Trump weren't going to change. I was always worried about who can we pull in. And as it got closer to the election, I was definitely one day I'd feel good. One day I would feel like, I don't know, maybe she's going to take this and didn't have a real pulse for what was happening, you know? Um,
Hey, somebody's texting me. Sorry about that. It's Neil. You're probably one of the most confident. I feel like you and I felt confident for a while, even though right before the election, I started to get a little nervous. What were you thinking? I think it was like watching a football game or something. Yeah. You know, it was for me. Yeah.
You mean you're nervous, but you think your team's going to win, but anything can happen. I wasn't feeling much anxiety at all. I was filled with it. Well, I can see you. I know you were. I was filled with it, and I guess I have no problem saying I wasn't sure how it was going to go. I was praying how it would go. I was worried because I was like, what if everybody does vote for Kamala and then Kamala
What does that say about the American value to me personally? So it made me worried if we lose. Were you driving your family crazy pacing around? I was by myself. Really? Neil asked a good question before we were there. And Kayla, maybe you can start with the answer. He wanted to know behind the scenes, what were you doing? Where were you sitting? Were you wearing pajamas? Were you comfortable? Were you nervous? Were you pacing? Kayla, what about? We were kind of tailgated. I had mom come over and she brought...
some heavy foods like Johnny Mazzetti and stuff. It was like a tailgate for a football game. Yeah. It was a very long football game. I don't sit down during football games or when the election results were coming in. I was pacing back and forth and very nervous, like Telly, you know, very nervous early on because as the night went on, the only states that they couldn't call were the only states that Trump needed. You know,
You know? So you get more worried. You can start thinking, okay, they're going to wait and see how far behind. And then those States are going to come in and Oh, Whoa, they get, he got killed in these particular States. But so I didn't feel great and it got later and later. So started to go to go to bed and still turn it on back there. Then it felt a lot better when Georgia came in, when Georgia came in, I was like, okay, that's great. Very shortly after that Pennsylvania came in and it was over. Yeah. Pennsylvania. Yeah. And then your phone's blowing up and everybody's texting and it was, it was, it was,
One of the greatest nights of my life. I actually went to bed before they called Georgia. I was at hunting camp in Illinois. Oh, that's right. So you were hunting. Yeah. And I was, I was sipping on a whiskey there watching and I'm like, Oh, he's got Georgia. He's going to. And before they even called it, I went to bed. I was so fricking tired because the weight of that whole thing, all of the political fatigue and the,
All the theater leading up to the election was exhausting. I stayed up all the way until his speech at the end, 2, 3 in the morning, whatever. Me too. Me, you were texting him. We were texting at 2 a.m. still. I wore everyone out. I started by myself. My daughter came home from her practice, and she watched it for a while, and I wore her out. Then my son came home from his rehearsal, and he went upstairs and watched it because I was full of stress. Full of it.
Did you eat anything? Nope. Couldn't eat? Couldn't eat. Yeah. Then Doreen just sat there nervous until it started to unfold. And I just felt really, really good about it as it started to kind of take shape. You could see, you could feel that it was starting to move in a good direction. And I mean, I'm...
Felt like Christmas morning. Was anybody surprised that he got the popular vote? I mean, I kind of was actually. Sure. No. Yeah. Especially with population in California. I was completely surprised and thrilled. Yeah. Yeah. Because for being told that you're a Nazi, all of that stuff, you,
Sometimes you buy into what the media is saying or not buy into it, but you just get beat down so much that you think that we're in the minority. Right. And that wasn't the case. Right. It reminds me. What's the Tom Hanks movie where the guy says, I'm the captain now. It's like we're the majority now. Oh, yeah. Like, yes, that's what it was. Captain who?
Captain Phillips, not Captain Ron. Captain Chuck. But it's like, okay, we're not crazy. This is the majority of people. And actually, if you exclude inner city LA or inner city Chicago or New York City, which by the way, still leaned a little bit left, the rest of the country is, that's a big majority. Let me ask you guys a question. I've been waiting to ask this. So, you know, it was a red wave, but I don't even look at it like that.
it wasn't just a red wave. It was much more than that because we actually have an opportunity to, we, we pulled a lot of people in independence came, came through, you know, um, black men came through. A lot of people came through Hispanics. Everybody came, came through and voted. Let's keep them. Yeah. And how do we keep them? That's the thing. Cause it can, they can easily go away.
Next round. Well, it's because this isn't a Republican thing. Like a typical, what you think Republican. This is a common sense wave. Common sense. And it's a tsunami. It is, but it's a common sense, but it's, that's the thing though. Dave Portnoy, Barstool sports said it best. He goes, they gave us no choice.
That's just the truth. That is the truth. And to think it's a red wave to me is small thinking. It's not a red wave. It's, it's bigger than a red wave. No, because Elon Musk isn't a conservative. No, he hasn't been that way. RFK came over. Yeah. I mean, so it's, yeah, it's a movement. It's a big, it's a big moment. And, and I'm hoping that the administration can, can keep everyone and, and, and keep moving that forward because the message is clear.
You know, my favorite thing I've had to listen just since he got elected, you know, I've been listening to some CNN and MSNBC just to hear some of the meltdown. It's been fun. I'm not going to lie. It's been kind of fun. My favorite thing they're talking about is let's do the autopsy of why it happened. This is really, it can end it right now for you. It's simple. People felt what was happening. Inflation, the border,
And to tell your base that, no, that's not real. Democrats, they kept saying that. No, inflation, it's not that bad. Immigration is not that bad. They insulted the Americans. They insulted. The heartland of this country is smart. They're smart, and they have a lot of values, and they'll deal with a lot. But telling them that you're not feeling inflation, it's not that bad when they can't afford food, and it's really pinching.
you know, their paycheck is insulting. Well, and they had no message, you know, as Kamala Harris, the whole thing was just about bashing Trump and he's a Nazi and he's going to do this and trying to scare everybody, you know, saying this is what's going to happen when he gets in. Like, hello, he's already been in nothing tragic happened. Great things happened. You know, so he's, that was already the test model. I mean, and your Kamala's test model was Joe Biden.
So we didn't want that. And there's still no messaging. And when Curt and you were saying they're calling him Nazis and anybody who voted for him Nazis –
after he won the next day all that went away even biden says it's gonna be fine we're america yeah it's kind of like wait i thought we were all gonna die you know most of the liberals out there and the common supporters they knew that there was a problem at the border they've known it they don't give a shit it's all about you're sadly right they know they know they see all that they know there's too many people coming across the border they know that
you know, drag Queens dancing in front of children. Ain't right. They know that, but they don't care. I don't know if they know it. I don't know if they know that. I don't know. They know that's not natural. No, no. Here's the thing though. Here's the thing. You think, you think they think that's okay. I think, yeah, they, they preach on it. I mean, I think some of them think, no, I'm talking about just general joke, liberal public. I don't know. When they see a dude dressed up as a woman dancing in front of an elementary school and they, and,
I know they know that's wrong. But they don't care. But if everybody was against it, nobody would be for it. So somebody's for it. For sure. No, they're for the person that's okay with it. I know that they know it's wrong, but they don't care. They're going to vote that way anyway. I don't know. In spite of it. There's too much evil on that side going on for them not to recognize that it's unnatural and it's not right. And they voted for her anyway. That's not why they lost the election.
Well, a lot of it is. Because a lot of people went in there and pushed Trump. I know for having a daughter, and this was an issue for me, and this is how I knew it was going to connect. I have a daughter, and one of the issues for me was boys and girls sports. That too. Boys and girls bathrooms. Another one on the list. There's another one on the list. But for me, the Democratic Party, which to me is –
I don't even like using the word Democrat and liberal in the same sentence because to me they're different. But that administration let the far left part of it push it way far to the left. And America is not there. They're not there. And they're so disconnected with their base that you don't have to sit there and wonder why you lost. It's very simple. It's very simple. Look at the independents, the people that...
That's what you got to look at. And we got them. And I think they gave them to us. Yeah, because it came down to common sense. I think there were a ton of people on the left that voted for Trump and didn't let anybody know about it. They went behind the curtain and they voted for Trump because they just can't vote for everything she stood for.
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Join the movement at drinkoriginalbrands.com. Yeah, I think that's right. And I think, like Telly said...
The extreme left hijacked the party is what happened, and they just took control of it. And people, they just went along and said, well, I'm a Democrat, so I guess I'm going to vote. So I'm sure there were a lot of them that did vote on the left because that's what their parents did or that's what they've always done, and they just did it. And they might have liked all the stuff, but they hated Trump, so they didn't want to do that. But I think also Trump won over a lot of the people because some of the people on the left couldn't go to the extreme left.
And I said, all right, I'm going to we got to come back a little bit, which I think it's going to be a great lesson ultimately for the Democratic Party to understand why they lost. And they are not communicating with the American public at all. It was amazing to see, you know, when America goes off the rails, it was feeling it's going off the rails in which we all felt like this is going off the rails, right?
You don't have to be on this side of it to see that we're going off the rails. It's so uplifting to me, though, to know that when our people feel that, they fix it. That was the greatest thing for me, to see the popular vote come in and to see, you know what? We're not going to let this slide off the rails. We're going to pull back. We're going to fix it. A little self-correcting moment. Yeah, it's an amazing process.
And for all the listening to the threat to democracy, which blows my mind because really the only threat to democracy was Kamala bypassing it to get on the ticket. Yeah. So, you know, like it's so obvious when somebody says you're a threat to democracy and they actually are the ones that were the threat. That skipped it. That goes back to my point with what Kayla was saying. Yeah.
They will say and do anything in political warfare. I mean – 100%. I didn't hear anything that we said or that Trump said about them –
was a lie none all of it was true we weren't making up shit just to get elected they make up shit and they'll say and do anything to get elected and lost them it look at what it did now you know joe biden's the happiest man in america you know that's right but he came up there skipping yeah in his speech the other day completely coherent he looked like he was 55 years old he's up there he's you know but the way the way that happened you know it's like well you know
How's he feel? I mean, they're blaming him. He's on cloud nine right now. He's the only one to beat Trump. That's such sweet justice. He's the only one to beat Trump and he can take that to his grave. Oh my gosh. It's a success. He went to Delaware. He's good. See guys, you should have kept me in. See what happened. And she would never, you know, and the thing is, the liberal media is melting down, of course. But they're blaming, you know, they're calling it the bro movement and all this stuff. And,
talking about going on Rogan. She could have did the same thing. She let everybody know she could, but she couldn't, but she, but she could have used that platform whenever she wanted. And she, and she just was so afraid to say something wrong or not say anything. She ended up not saying anything. And, and they just assumed that they would vote for her because she was a black woman. And that really pissed off a lot of black people. Yeah. They're smart. Yeah.
I'm not going to vote for you just because you're black. Where were you, Kirk? I was upstairs. We have like a TV room. I was up there and somebody mentioned, you kind of said it was kind of like a game for you. That's kind of how I get if like the Dolphins are in a big game. Like I actually don't want to talk. I don't want to, I just kind of like focused and I just want to see it play out and I'm kind of nervous. So I was up there, me and my wife Kelly were up there and
We're just watching. I'm just kind of in silence. I did eat before, not during. I couldn't eat. I couldn't eat during. I felt nauseous. Wow. I was so... Anyone who knows me knows this anyway. I am wound tight. Just a little bit. I don't think anybody knows that. Yeah. I mean, the listening people may or may not know, but I am stressed out 100%. What's next for you? I mean, if that stresses you, what other things stress you out? Everything stresses me out. Everything? Work,
The election was a huge stress. Work stresses you out? How can work stress you? You have a tech. He takes care of all your shit. That's easy, man. You don't make mistakes on stage. That's true. You've got Al Dean's new single that's out right now. Whiskey drink. Sounds great. Speaking of that. Sounds great. I'm saying, and you're stressed?
Well, and maybe to slightly veer off topic with that, it's like I think the thing is it's like there's stress because. I know you care about the country. I get it. We do. But, you know, with the stress with work, it's like there's a window for us to provide for our families. Jason isn't going to tour forever. He's not going to put out singles forever. There's a window for us to provide for our families. So we have to make the most of that window. Get that.
So it's like, you know, they're stressed. Yeah. And I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I wasn't stressed. Really? Just sit around and chill. It's just a wiring. Everybody's got a different wiring. I'm wired hot. It's not worry. You don't worry. I do. You do worry. He does. Any kind of stress, just in that category, yeah, it's pretty big time. The only time...
We're rearing off course. No, it's just freaking great. What are you talking about? The only time I really feel and I forget about the stress is when I'm in the mountains. I'm skiing and my kids are out there in the middle of nowhere and it goes away. It's just the music business. Everybody needs that though. It's just the music business. I know we all worry and stress every now and then. Yeah, it's just the way I am. I've always been that way. I'm constant in worry, living in some sort of state of worry.
I do too, quite a bit. But it definitely has a physical... Kalo's a people pleaser. Yeah, you guys have that in common, right? Yeah, that's in common for sure. That's one of our special traits. Maybe even the three of us, but at least the two of us, even when you leave this podcast, we'll drive home and think,
did I say something wrong? Should we edit this? And then Neil's sitting there watching football, he ain't thinking a thing about it. He's on to the next thing. Which is great. God bless him. I wish I had that wiring, but I do stress about stuff and then about income and songs getting recorded and providing for your family and stuff. It doesn't help anything, but
No. But it kind of does. Maybe it makes you work harder. I don't know. Because if I wasn't stressed at all, I feel like I would be lazy. And the fact that I am stressed makes me work harder. I will admit, after the election was over that night, of course, I went to bed before everybody else did because I felt really good about it. The next morning when I got up to go hunting, I felt...
A hundred pounds lighter. Yeah. All this, I will admit that. So I was holding on to something and he went, whether it was worry or anxiety, I don't know what it was, but it was just, but it just went, well, it was gone. And I felt so like, it was a good morning. No, it was, it was a great morning. Maybe I need to take you hunting. When did we, we were texting at like two 30 in the morning. Yeah. So went to bed at like three. I was about six with the news on again. Yeah.
Making sure that it didn't change overnight. Well, it's like watching game highlights. You just watch it over and over again. That's a good point. I tell you what, I did not want to hear the next morning. I'm like, okay, so it's over. We won. The Kamala ship has sailed.
Let's don't talk about her anymore. But everybody was still talking about it. I was like, why are we talking about her? It's over. The next four years we'll be talking about her. I was getting so wound up about... I know, I'm like, why? It was upsetting me listening to the media wonder why they lost. Guys, this should be so clear to you. I know. You don't have to look at any polls. You just need to look at the last four years. And...
You can stop wondering why. Jimmy Kimmel, you can stop wondering why. Oh, my gosh. What an answer. Now, we played... Here's the thing. We have a history with Jimmy. Of course, back when... Before politics were polarizing like this, we played his show kind of... A lot. Nine times, eight times. Always nice. And he was great to us. Yeah. But yeah, that meltdown. Jeez. That was embarrassing to watch. It is embarrassing. It's so embarrassing, but what really...
As our producer, Jim, as I grinds my gears or as Peter Griffin, I guess would say it's so condescending that they think they know better than you. Oh, and it doesn't matter. It's so popular vote.
I don't know what the count is now because Arizona and Nevada, get your shit together, guys. It's going to take a week to get the results in. Well, it's always going to be the swing states that are going to be the last to come in. I think it's planned. I think the media plans on it. No, Arizona and Nevada, I don't know why they do this. They only air as long as we can. There's some of that, but not the whole week. Not these two states. This is ridiculous. But anyway, he's going to win the popular vote by over $5 million. I was hoping, like, guys, look, this –
We're not the ones that are losing our minds here. There's a problem. There is a problem. And let me ask this because, and I'll tell you how I feel about it. What do you say to the people? I know what Neil will say. To the people that say, maybe they need a break from you. I just don't understand why you'd vote the way that you did. I don't feel comfortable voting.
Being around you or following you on social media for sure. Like, what would be your response to that, Kalo? You've got the biggest heart here. See you later. No, I enjoy talking about politics, religion, Bible, all that stuff. It's interesting to me. So I like that.
I have, in my experience, I've found it hard for a hardcore left-leaning liberal to have an actual conversation. Very difficult because you can't get a point in because I have experienced people talking to me as if you're on the right, you're an ignorant redneck. And that's the people that I've talked to. That's what they think. So whatever I say, especially if I have any kind of twang, I sound stupid and just uninformed and unintelligent and nonsensical.
none of my points matter and I'm voting for a crazy person. But that's all they've got too. They can't go deep into the conversation. Even if you just say one thing, like Neil said, like the border, just one thing and say, well, why would you let millions of people
And they're not vetted at all. I mean, some of those people from all the countries. They're going to dodge the question. You know, and just the normal things we would think of somebody, not all, somebody, some country is sending people over to eventually do something to America, right? Everybody's not coming over here for education and work and everything like that. And I say, what is the point? Why would you do that? Why would you want your family threatened by people you don't even know that some of them have criminal records and stuff like that, and you want them living in your neighborhood? Right.
And they don't say anything. They just say, well, Trump. They go back to that. It's his fault. Trump wants to build a wall, and this country is found on immigrants. They've tried to blame him for all the illegal coming over. The country is found on immigrants. They'll say and do anything. But it's been the proper way. And so you just can't win any kind of argument. So I have friends or past friends that –
You can say you were friends, but we don't hang out anymore because politics started getting very heated and intense and
Right around Obama era, probably, you know? Yeah. And where it got to be, where you used to be able to talk about it and just go fishing or whatever. Agree to disagree. And just agree to disagree. Those were the good old days. It's different. Because the social and moral issues weren't such a big player 20 years ago. Well, that's what I mean by them pushing it so far left. Those days of being able to just...
talk about it and forget you talked about it because it was just, it would affect you, but most of the time would affect you in ways that you didn't feel necessarily. You were worried about things, but it felt like common sense was at least existing on both ends. I think the Democrats were really confused there for a long time, whether or not to team up with the far left.
You had Democrats and you had the far left, extreme far left. Do you guys feel like what happened in COVID pushed it over? I don't know. I just think it went off the rails. The Democrats had a hard time. It did go off the rails. And it's like, speaking of COVID, it's like people, what I've seen in text, like, you know, I can't believe you vote the way you do. My rights are going to be taken away or my feelings or this, that, or the other. How about us? How about my feelings? How about you calling me a,
a Nazi or someone that wants this person to be elected. How about my rights during COVID? I was forced. I'm not saying personally, but we were forced to get a vaccine or you're telling me my son has to wear a mask in school for two years. How about, how about my rights for free speech? If I say something online and it gets taken down or flagged. Well, you're a racist.
That's what I'm saying. You know, people think that their rights and their feelings are more important than mine. And the thing is, listen, we all everybody's got. What's that? It's over. All that's going away. We have shifted. The wind has changed. But there's been an awakening. Absolutely. But what do you say is going away?
No, it's going to slowly start going away. What, by what? All of this stuff, being called these names and being our rights and all that stuff. I wish that was the truth. It's going to be. I think. It's not going to. It's going to roll off. I mean, the threat to democracy was saying, I can't go to church during COVID. Yeah. And we learned a huge lesson during COVID. Everybody did. Like, okay. And that was a, it was a big factor.
The bullshit factor. Everybody called bullshit on it. It's a good point because that's when things started going, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's happening? We had a lot of social issues. Yeah, the George Floyd incident, which was like at that time during COVID, it was a lightning rod. I feel like we went completely off a cliff. I feel like that's when things got really crazy. And then you had the vaccine issue and schools. And, you know, I know, Kurt, you know, my daughter and your son are very close in age. And I'll tell you right now, my, you know,
My daughter really affected her in the short-term learning process. 100%, and I can't even imagine. I know my son as well. I can't imagine how many people that affected. Yeah, there's no doubt. That definitely affected things. My son is a little older, so he kind of slid through it. But it really affected them and it uncalled for. I tell you what I'm not going to miss. You know what I'm going to say. I know, but I can't wait. Good riddance.
to never seeing Tim Walls again. He's like a cartoon character. He is kind of a cartoon character. He was very entertaining. Well, he's Elmer Fudd. He was very entertaining. But if you ever want to see another bad decision, I'm not saying Shapiro would have swung it for her. Obviously not. Because I was thinking, okay, well, she goes to Shapiro, probably pulls in PA, and maybe the blue wall doesn't fall quite as easily. You know who the real loser is in this?
My brother told me this. What's this? Mike Pence. He might be rethinking that. Maybe I shouldn't have took this stance. Pence was gone anyway. I know, but now it's like... Everybody calls Trump such a liar and stuff. You were talking about Tim Wallace. It's like, how much can that guy lie and people be okay with that? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. And people saw it, thank God, because I'm looking at him and saying...
And now, only thing worse than Tim Walz is his wife. Dude, she's actually... It's going away. No, you're right, Neil. You're right. It is going away. It is going away. And those people are... It's over. Listen, dude, that ship has sailed. Can y'all imagine... Hey, how about this? Can you imagine how many kids were probably conceived on election night? Republican kids?
I don't know. Tons of them. Not in these households. Not in these households. I know, not him. They're all going to be born stressed out. Honey, all these kids are going to be born stressed out. Where's my food? Where's my food? Where's my bottle? Where's my bottle? We'll celebrate in here. Not right now. I guarantee you there's a ton of them. I'm serious, though. We're going to take it over the world. At least the week after. I am serious. That's a good point. I am really hoping that we can hold on to this.
I'm trying to lighten the mood around here a little bit. You keep going back to your worry and anxiety. I mean, it's not worry. It's just we had a... I'm worried about you. Don't worry too much about me. I will say like... I'm going to start checking up on you more. And, you know, like, Kurt, you're asking about if people have talked to us about... You say, I can't believe the way you voted and things like that. But when...
And if you've lost friends or kind of people that just kind of, you know, just went away, like you didn't even have an argument or discussion. It's just, all right, we don't think a lot alike. So I can't imagine when I retire one day, what are we going to talk about? You know, we're not, we don't align. And so relationships just kind of change as you get older. But, but I will say, first off for me, Trump winning the election is great for America. So I felt like,
My safety level felt good. Economically, you're feeling good for families, things like that. I do believe – I don't enjoy everything that Trump says, everything he tweets. I don't agree with all that. However, I do love his policies. I do feel that he loves America, and I do feel that he'll do the best job he possibly can.
But in all that, so I thought about that first, but my secondary thought, and it was real quick after that one, and this is the sinful thought. And even biblically, it says, oh, do we not rejoice in the misfortune of others?
did I not think about my liberal friends and how happy I was that they were so pissed off. What's wrong? I was so happy. That's a sin? It's a sinful. Yeah, it's a sin. Really? You're not supposed to rejoice in other people, you know, but I did ask forgiveness for it. We do that every Saturday. You know, I know, I know, but that's sports, you know, that's sports, you know, but that's nice. But anyway, for a little bit, you know, it just felt really good to win. I agree. Hey, on that note, I,
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We're back. Live from the Patriot Mobile Studios. Still sounds good. Still sounds good. Try that in the Small Town Podcast, guys. We got Tully and Kelly and Neil and Kurt. I hate Kelly. I feel like I'm in trouble when you start calling me Kelly. What's your middle name? Kelly. Kelly Joe, right? John's my first name. I thought it was Kelly Joe. Please don't call him Kelly. What's your first name? He hates it when I call him Kelly. John? Yeah.
That's what it was. So I got a question. JK. Why do parents name their kids a first name like John but decide to call them by their middle name? I don't know. I don't know about my middle name. Neil's my middle name.
I'm really not sure. That's a good question. Yeah. I'll ask mom tonight during a football game. What's your middle name? What's your first name? Joe. Joe. Joe and John? John Joe? Is there anything more country than that in Alabama? That's what I thought. Joe Neal! Joe Neal, get out of here! John, Joey, get clean here. That's why I thought your middle name was Joe. I forgot. I thought it was Kelly Joe Loveless. No, it's not Kelly Joe. You're mixing two homes. My brother is... Joe Neal. My brother... Joe Neal. Joe Neal.
My brother's name is Paul, but he's always been called Danny. Paul Daniel Kennedy. You guys got to do some investigating. Why do parents do that? I don't know. I'll ask tonight. My dad's name is Joe Neal, too, but I'm Joe Neal Jr. I can't ask him to talk to me anymore. You're a junior? I'm a junior. I'm learning things about... Yeah, you're right. What's your full name? Tex? Kurt Michael.
Sounds like an actor. It's kind of boring. It's very Iowa boring. Sounds like an actor. What about you, Tills? Tully Martin. Tully Martin. Okay. That's solid. Sounds like a professional bass fisherman. Ha ha ha.
Tell me, Martin. While we were in break, we had a very heated discussion, but it was very, you know, we'll actually, we'll put, we'll have some behind the scenes content at some point. It'll cost you though. There'll be a lot of bleeping in that. But then it turned to like you're chewing. You chew during, can we talk about this? Oh, you sure? You chew during shows? Dips. Yeah. I mean, I can sing with a dip in. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
Where's your spit cup? Is it the tray that I'm just about to? It's under the table. Huh? I mean, you don't want to look at that. Remember when I lost the hockey tournament on? Oh, this is good. Yeah. So we were, we were, I was going to go ahead, but I was, I got a story. Well, this is a dipping story. Good. We were on the road and our tour manager, Jake, Jake Legrone. This is back, but probably 2015 or something.
Played the ACM Awards. It was the first year that they were in the new Cowboy Stadium, whatever year that was. I think it was 2014 or 15. After that show, we had a... We're going to Wyoming or somewhere. So we had a long bus ride. We're playing NHL on the PlayStation, which is what we do on the long bus ride. So I'm like...
undefeated against Jake 150 and 0 for some reason we roll out of town and he goes hey let's put a bet on this I'm like okay fine he goes if you lose you got to put a dip in no kidding oh yeah and I've never dipped oh that's it so anyway I'm playing goal I'm like one nothing fine I beat Jake all the time
I got on the third period. I'm down two to one. I can't get anything to go in the net. I tie the game with like five seconds left. I'll never forget it. And I lose in overtime. And we are barely out of Texas. And he goes, well, there you go. So I put the dip in. I can't remember what it was. And whoa. Yeah.
Bad times for me. Did you get sick or did you just get dizzy? Oh, I didn't. It was a verge of sick. I was a little green. I ended up on the floor just super nauseous and the bus was spinning and the bus was moving. So now I'm spinning and man, it took me a minute. That's a terrible feeling. It took me a minute. That was a... Kalo used to dip. I was about to ask, do you dip? He did, yeah. I dipped. He was a professional dipper. I was at least a can and a half a day.
every day for, that's a lot for years. Is it a lot? I mean, it sounds like a lot. And then I used to dip skull and then I, cause you're talking about why you're dipping and singing and stuff. Um,
I was playing in a band in Chattanooga a long time ago, and I was trying to quit. And so I love Skoll. I hated Copenhagen. So I thought, well, I'm going to buy Copenhagen whenever I want to dip. I'll just take a small dip because I hate it. Bad move. That'll make me not want to do it. Well, anyway, so I started wearing the patch, you know, too, on my chest. You know, I had the patch. While you're dipping? Well, not at the time, you know. I was just wearing the patch. But then I had it, and then it was just a long night and everything for whatever reason.
I started taking those little dips of Copenhagen. And then by the third or fourth one, I started loving it. And then it was just like a three finger dip and it's a long night, you know, it's dark in there. Nobody could see anything. And, but I had the patch on and then you're walking around stage and you're playing and everything. And then my, my chest or I got huge chest pains. And I, I think I was about to have a heart attack and I, and I reached in my Garth Brooks lookalike shirt and rip that patch off as quick as I could.
Anyway, here I am today, so obviously... We don't want anybody to start dipping. You kids out there, don't start if you don't want to get a dip. I haven't dipped in years. What's the difference in the brands? Do they taste different? Yeah, they're all different. Yes, definitely. They're all different. They taste different. Is it kind of like cigarettes? I dipped this Wolf Peach, and I got this. Gary LaVox dips this, and that's how I got hooked on this, through him, because he started dipping it. Because that was like one day I didn't have my Copenhagen or whatever. What about cigarettes? Is it the same thing? Well, cigarettes...
I guess so. I smoked cigarettes for like two weeks. I remember those days. Trying to quit dipping. There's a picture of me somewhere. I'm standing next to Lana. We're not married yet. And I've got like one of the original old trucker hats on. I've got a Marlboro in my right hand.
I got a big dip in my left side, and I'm holding the Budweiser. How in the world did she fall for you? Let me tell you something, man. It was like, you want to talk about freaking red. You look like a Joe Neal. And it was like, I couldn't get enough nicotine. I couldn't get enough nicotine.
It was crazy. I had it bad. It was a bad deal. It's a thing. It's one of those things like when you're really hooked on it, like it's like every emotion you have, it makes everything better. If you're happy, you're happier. If you're sad, you're better. If you're middle of the road, that's even better. Really? So good after meals. I was gaining so much weight because the dip tastes so much better after eating. So I would just stay up. It's like a dessert? Yeah, dessert, anything. But I would stay up to 2 or 3 in the morning and I would eat and then I would dip and I would eat and I would dip and I would go to sleep.
when my throat would get so closed up from the nicotine that I started coughing from dipping, not smoking. And then I'd go to bed. I'd say, well, that's enough. And then I'd go to bed. Hey, did you ever fall asleep with a dip in your mouth? Oh, yeah, and I hated that because you swallowed it the whole night. And then I woke up thinking, well, I'm getting cancer. I've been swallowing it all night. There's no way I could do that because I'm going to choke to death. God did that so many times, and it stays in the same little spot, and then it's all wrinkled up in there, and you think, oh, God, that's it. I'm out. God's taken me. You guys are reddened.
Yeah, it was terrible. No wonder they call you by your middle names. You're welcome. All right. That was a long time ago. No wonder they call you by your middle name. I don't even know what that means. I like it, though. We got a little off topic, but that was fun. It was fantastic. Everything's on topic here. Maybe to kind of close out with some of the— Do you have any bad habits? Do I? Yeah. They're probably all bad.
But none... I'm not just going to pick on me and Kalo. I mean, I don't know if I have any bad habits or not. And he sips the whiskey. Well, at least it's past noon. It's past noon now. Well, it's not noon now. Hey, Tully, dipping may help your anxiety. Oh, he'd be so amped up, though. Is that for real? It may help. Your worry factor may go down. It may be a downer for you, like in a good way. You know, it's just how I was born.
Wired tight. I mean, this isn't like a new development. I've had this forever. It's going to take a little more than... Telly's new record, Hardwired. I like it. Tully, another one of the things you were, or we were talking about during the break was some of the MSNBC kind of post-election... Oh, it's entertaining. Entertainment meltdown. It's been hard not to listen to it. It's just like, they're losing it. And they're losing it.
And maybe this will be the next thing we veer off into is the whole legacy media thing. But people still watch MSNBC. Actually, a lot of people. Who? Well, I. How is it on the air? What's the difference between. You sound like me. I love this. No, no, no. Here, let me give you a dip. Because here's the thing. Neil, you know, we agree. Neil, we agree on 90% of things. Maybe even more than that. I know we agree on this.
MSNBC is actually, it's a poison. What's the difference between The View and MSNBC? View. Who watches The View? You know what? The View does a huge favor. They asked her a question. You're right. The View. They really did. Neil, you got a good, can we get to Neil's point on The View? Yeah. About the names. About the names. Yeah, I mean, it's like how could the most, you know,
pissed off bitter women in the world have names like Whoopi, Sonny, and Joy. That's hysterical. It's great. When you grow up and you have kids, don't name them happy names because they're going to turn into them.
Whoopi. Apparently that's what happens. And what was the other one? Joy. There's two Joys. There's Joy Behar and Joy Reed. Oh, you're right. There's two Joys. There's lots of Joy in the world. So check it out. Interesting story. We need to get a Karen or something. Here's something interesting for you guys. Whoopi. I still don't know how Ted Danson married her, but that's all right. Wow, you're right. Yeah, Ted Danson married Whoopi.
This is a weird thing. He had a lot of drug and alcohol. It goes back to my anxiety. So my son was in LA. My son's in acting and he was in LA looking at schools out there, Chapman and some places like that. So he saw her in a restaurant and he's in acting and she's in acting and she was really, really sweet to him, which is a good side to her. And then you have this other side to her
Which is, that show and what you hear them say, that's a big problem. It's a big problem. I'd like to know the ratings of that show. You know what the problem is? It's not them, it's the people that buy it. It's the people that watch it. So you tune into that and you actually leave it on the channel? I wonder if anyone actually does, though, or they just leave them on the air because they feel that they can't take it.
I'm with you. I'm like, how are their ratings? How are they still on the air? But you got to remember how liberal the network is. No matter how bad the ratings are, they're not taking it off because what does that say? That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. There's no way they're taking them off. But thank you, Vue. Thank you for having Kamala on. And hey, she can't think of one thing she'd do differently than Joe.
You don't have to be... You're right. That was a big point. We're not political. We're just to have our opinions, but you don't have to be political to see how that played out. Like...
Well, Joe sucks. Everything sucks. And you can't think of one thing you do differently. Well, and not to go too deep in the woods on that, but it's like, go deep in the woods. Well, no, I'm just saying that it's like you understood, you understood that she's a puppet for lack of a better word, that it's not her that would be running the country. There is a machine there.
the deep state that would be running it. Nobody, everybody knows Joe wasn't capable of running the country and it wasn't seriously. Everybody knows he is in serious cognitive decline. Everybody knows that comma was picked. Kamala was picked because she could be controlled by that machine. It's yeah. Yeah. It was just obvious to me, but you know what the Elon calls them, the legacy media, right? Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, these days are over. It is. It is over. And they can blame themselves. Yeah, that's right. They can blame themselves because they refuse. You know, when you're out and you're asking people, what's your biggest concerns going forward in the country and you're polling, and 70% of the people say economy, border, obvious things, right? Yeah.
all this stuff. And you say, no, that's not real. I always wonder what whoopie and joy and all them, how they actually, when they're by themselves behind the curtain and the cameras aren't rolling, how they really are. Well, do they get, does whoopie go back there to address him and go, damn it.
Shit. I mean, instead of the enthusiastic, you know what I'm saying? Like taking ownership of a lot of this. You got to remember what they did during this election cycle is they paraded out all these celebrities. Do they not see how stupid that was? They paraded out multimillionaires, billionaires. By the way, they paid those, every one of them, millions of dollars. And they're in 20 million in debt.
After a billion. You know, they owe just for the concerts alone. But so like to what you were saying, so they bring out Beyonce, which who's listening to Beyonce thinking, yeah, she understands what we're going through. Yeah, she knows how much groceries are. I know. She doesn't even buy her own groceries. She goes shopping to the local public. Cardi B. Oh, Cardi knows things. What the? My God. It's just so insulting. If you're wondering why, if you voted for,
Kamala, and you're wondering why you lost, is because somehow the new Republican Party is now the party of the working man. It's flipped. It's flipped. And that is exactly what has happened, where Donald Trump, Mr. New York, a billionaire in New York, is now more connected to the everyman than the Democratic Party. And that's, when you really want to get down to it, that's who people are leaning on to fix things. And
Legacy Media, they're broke. Yeah, and back to that point, it's like... It's over. It is over, and people now get their information and news through independent sources, whether it's... And podcasts. And podcasts. Like ours. The Try That in a Small Town podcast. But it's true. I mean, that's what people are doing. We have a lot. We can thank The View for a little bit of the success of our song, too. That's right. They helped. They didn't like us, did they? They did not like us. Hey, to that point, I actually mentioned this to Kurt the other day.
As I'm watching the election unfold, I'm thinking to myself, you know, when the tour started this year, back to that point of our song, from show number one, I remember coming in after the show and saying, God, that crowd was young tonight.
When I say young, I mean like 17, 18, like young. And we've been out a minute. We've been out for 25 years. I mean, we've been, you know. Before they were born. So it's interesting. In every show, we play our song and young and riled up. And that went on the whole tour. Talk about it every night. Can't believe how young the crowd is getting. And it made me wonder, and I was wondering, like, where are the young people voting? Like where...
that energy and they showed up. Yeah, they did. Yeah. It's that same demographic. It's the same demographic. Yeah. It made sense to me that they were, you know, even you go on YouTube and go on YouTube and watch all the universities, all the college universities, not all of them, but the majority of them and all these fraternities running out in the streets. It's pretty cool. It was tons of colleges. Yeah. But that age group, you know, I started a lot of, uh, even when I was voting, uh,
on election day, there was five or six first-time voters in there. And I remember saying, congratulations, congratulations. And it was interesting, though, as it unfolded the other night, thinking about the tour this year and the energy. Yeah, and the correlation there. When we played Try That in a small town, and what we were seeing was like, okay, maybe that part of our base was really ready to show out, you know?
Neil, you were talking about that. You guys know who Charlie Kirk is? Oh, yeah. Turning point. That was like his thing this year, right? He went to so many of these colleges, and he was just trying to inform people what Trump's message was and what that— He's a true patriot, man, and what a warrior. Yeah, for sure. He works like Trump does. Yeah, he's nonstop. He can't quite keep up with Trump, but he's close. That's what blows my mind about Trump.
It's pretty crazy. You can't keep up. It's unbelievable. He doesn't stop.
You've got guys like Charlie Kirk saying that or Joe Rogan saying that or Dana White saying that. It's like this guy works harder than anybody. Hey, when did Barron get 10 feet tall? Oh. Man, he's something. He had a spurt. What is he, 6'7", 8"? Trump's tall. And the dude already looks presidential. Oh, he's going to whoop someone's ass back the other night. I was like, Barron, good lord. How old is he? Does anybody know? Jim? 27. 27.
I'm kidding. He's young, but he's, man, he is the hormones in the chicken steroids. It's an amazing, he's an intimidating figure. He is. He's gotta be six, five, six, six more. I mean, at least that Trump's like six feet, six, one. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and Barron's the whole stage. He's just looking down at everybody. It was amazing. I mean, you don't want to mess with Barron. Don't mess with Barron.
It's a pretty badass name. That's his first name, right? That ain't his middle name. It's got to be first. He's 6'7". He's 6'7". He looks 6'7", every bit of it. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel great today. I feel so light. You like my shirt? Love your shirt. That's the best shirt I ever loved. That's pretty awesome. Love it. Pretty awesome, right? Got this at Aldine's golf tournament. That's a good one. I think it's some of Brittany's merch, right? I think it is. It's amazing. I wore it. 18 years old.
18. He's 18? And he's 6'7"? Not done growing yet. He looks 6'7". That's what he looks like. Intimidating. Everybody looks 6'7". It's true. We're looking up at a lot of people. That's true. But we look tall on stage. That's all there really is.
If I had a dime for everybody that said when I was talking to him in a room, oh, you look taller on stage. It's because the stage is 10 feet tall. I've heard people say that as we walk by. In the old days, we'd, you know,
play a bar or something years and years ago and you'd go out to have a drink after and they could hear them say, wow, they look so much taller on stage. And you have a stance on stage that makes you like five, six inches shorter than you actually are. Yeah, the squat's the patented squat. The rock stance. It's the power squat. It's your thing. Nobody can do it. Your base is hanging at the perfect level. It's awesome. I'm getting pretty old, though, getting sore. My stance is changing. Yeah.
Can't go down quite as low as I used to. Oh, it is Christmas. It feels like Christmas. It is. You know, it does feel good. That's not gloating or over-celebrating. It's just, you know, it's restored faith and some basic principles. Again, kind of tying back to the song, we have passion about common things.
core beliefs and it's nice to see oh some other people do yeah yeah right it's a lot more people than we thought if you want to know how we believe just go listen to the song right yeah there's not much of a question that pretty much sums it up it does you know um anybody got anything else should we leave this here i think it's a good we can go on this forever so we could um but i just want to say it's it's it's inspiring not gloating
slightly maybe gloating but it's okay to celebrate it it's the difference in gloating and celebrating what's the difference when you've been called you know when you're over half the country's been called yeah out for supporting a nazi or it's it's it's so bad and the rhetoric's so bad and then it's got to stop but when the when over half the country's like hey we've had enough
We're not for this. It's too far left. We need to come back. And everybody stands up, gets out and votes. It was inspiring to see the system. It actually is democracy, by the way. Right. And that was restored. That was restored. That felt really good. Like, hey, my vote counts. Your vote counts. And it was amazing, that feeling of like, we're back. We're back. We're back.
Yeah, and the difference... Go ahead. Oh, sorry. No, go ahead. The difference between gloating and what you're saying and just being happy for the result, gloating would be, you know, texting liberal people saying, hey, in your face, you lost. Like, which that's not what we're going to do. And if our side didn't win...
We wouldn't complain about it for four years. I would pray like everything. Like if Kamala would have won, I would pray every day that somebody around her is helping her run this country. And I wouldn't be bitter and say, I hate Kamala. I wouldn't do that. Amen to that, Kalo. We don't do that. We've never done that. And I will say this, even before the election, and everybody can believe how they want and all this, but...
I prayed a lot before the election and it wasn't for Trump to win. It was, I know you have a plan and I'm good with your plan. Yep. God's still there no matter who's president. It's where we have a journey, right? And what's that? No, you're right. I totally agree. All of my prayers weren't, please let Trump win. I mean, obviously God knows how I feel and my faith, but I know you have a plan that,
That's what Tully said a while ago. It's like the whole, going back before COVID, all through COVID, that was all God's plan. That whole story was all planned. If Trump wins in 2020, he might win, but he can't really do anything in the way that was set up in the Senate and everything. Nothing goes through. And God, like I said, he knew it was going to happen. He got us to this point.
where now he can actually implement some of these changes that everybody wants to see. It's pretty clear everybody, most people want to see some of these changes. Well, and it'll benefit people that hate him. It will benefit them. I agree. I believe his policies are going to benefit people that hate him. They're still not going to like him.
But I think their world will be different and better. It doesn't matter who's president. Jesus is still king. Amen. I love that, Neil. Let's end on that. Hey, guys, I'm going back to nicknames for TK. Ah, right. K-Lo. Thanks, Kurt. Thrash. I still don't have a nickname. I'm Kurt. We're working on it. We are live from the Patriot Mobile Studios. This is Try That in the Small Town Podcast. Thanks for listening, guys. Cheers, y'all.
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