Ep. 1613 - Trump Makes Lib Women Stop Sleeping Around
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As President Trump prepares to fix the country, the left continues its temper tantrum. It is now three days since Trump demolished Kamala Harris at the ballot box, and the liberal meltdown continues. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

Welcome back to the show. Women are shaving their heads over President Trump's win. That doesn't seem like the healthiest way to cope with getting a better government. But we'll get into what it means.

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Check it out now. We're also getting some breaking news, breaking as of last night, and then even some that's breaking earlier this morning. Dave McCormick has won his Senate seat in Pennsylvania. He has ousted Bob Casey, the Pennsylvania Democrat. Dave McCormick, a very strong Republican candidate. This was a tight race. And Bob Casey has not yet conceded.

because it's patriotic to refuse to accept election results if you're a Democrat, according to the Libs. But he's won. The AP has called the race. The Republicans have 53 seats in the Senate. We'll see what happens. Arizona is still counting ballots. There might be some lawsuits in Nevada. We'll see what happens there. But at the

Republicans have 53 Senate seats. Very, very good news. Congratulations to Dave McCormick on a hard-fought, extremely expensive Senate campaign that further cements President Trump's mandate, the Republicans' mandate to govern. Now, speaking of President Trump, we have news on that front too. President Trump has selected his chief of staff, and the winner is Susie Wiles, who ran the Trump campaign.

This is a really impressive pick. It's a really smart pick. Susie Wiles has a phenomenal, incredible career in Republican politics. Really, really tough. She really burst onto the scene for a lot of people's attention when she helped launch Rick Scott down in Florida. But she's had a storied career in politics. Very impressive woman. But the other reason that this pick is

is delightful is because in the final days of the campaign, Mark Cuban launched this attack on Donald Trump that Trump does not ever surround himself with strong, intelligent women. And I thought, you know, Trump seems only to surround himself with strong, intelligent women. The first woman who ever won an American presidential campaign as the campaign manager was Kellyanne Conway. That was Trump's campaign manager.

Trump's next successful campaign manager, Susie Wiles, who's now going to become the White House chief of staff. You think about all the women, terrific press secretaries, Sarah Sanders, Kayleigh McEnany. You think of...

You think of the lawyers, you think of Hope Hicks, the communications director, you think of Ivanka Trump, President Trump's daughter, who's had a very successful career in her own right. The list goes on. I don't want to exclude anyone, but we'd be here all day if we listed all the strong, intelligent women that Trump has around him. And now he's picked one to run the White House, to have the key position in the White House. She did a great job on the Trump campaign. Obviously, it was a total success, complete success.

tsunami for Trump and the Republicans. So that pick is cemented. One expects more senior White House staff cabinet officials to be unveiled in the next couple of weeks. And then on top of all of that, I will be going to Iowa on Monday. I'm real excited. This is, I think, my final YAF speech of the semester. We may have one more, but I

It might be my final of this semester, and the timing was perfect because it is right after the election. The title of that speech, which I had to submit a month or so ago, is Our Long National Nightmare, because I felt it would work no matter who won the election. If Trump won, you could say Our Long National Nightmare is over, and if Kamala won, you could say Our Long National Nightmare is just beginning, or at the very least, it's continuing. So anyway, if you want tickets to that, I put a link on my X page, but you can also go to yaf.org.

Or just Google Michael Knowles, University of Iowa. Get your tickets. Get your tickets now, though. I think it's going to be a hot event because people are celebrating and they're very, very happy. And then some other people are very, very angry. But in any case, passions are running high. It should be a great time. Now.

Speaking of the people who are really angry over President Trump winning, the meltdown is continuing. There's a clip at this point. It's a day or two old, but I really don't want to miss it amid the flurry of news. And that, of course, would be Jimmy Kimmel crying on national television over Trump's victory.

Let's be honest, it was a terrible night last night. It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants who make this country go. For health care, for our climate, for science, for journalism, for justice, for free speech. It was a terrible night for poor people, for the middle class, for seniors who rely on Social Security, for our allies in Ukraine.

for NATO, for the truth, and democracy, and decency. And it was a terrible night for everyone who voted against him. And guess what? It was a bad night for everyone who voted for him, too. You just don't realize it yet. Tears in his eyes, his eyes glistening the whole time. This man used to host The Man Show. He hosted his show on Comedy Central for years with Adam Carolla called The Man Show. It's a terrible night. Oh.

It's a terrible night for women and children and immigrants. It's a terrible night for Ukraine and our allies. And the irony, of course, is the opposite is true. If it's

If it's a terrible night for free speech, what are you talking about? The libs were openly running on censoring conservatives. The free speech issue is the issue, probably more than any, certainly toward the top of the list, that got Elon Musk and Joe Rogan to support Trump in this campaign. The left has openly called to censor conservatives. They're doing that today. They're saying there's too much misinformation out there. We need to stop these conservatives. We need to shut down conservative podcasts.

They put my face in the header of the New York Times, didn't cite a single thing I said, didn't mention me once, but right there in the middle of their header, oh, these podcasts spreading misinformation, the insinuation being that social media needs to censor conservatives. Bad night. Oh, it's a bad night for children. Bad night for children. Trump's campaign ran on two things. We're going to diminish the number of babies who can be killed, and we're going to stop Democrats from castrating little kids. Seems like it was a great night for kids.

Terrible night for women. Oh, that's odd. How is it then that married women voted for Trump and even unmarried women and even young women in particular moved more into Trump's direction over 2020? How do you explain that? Terrible night for immigrants. Terrible night. What kind of immigrants? I assume he's speaking about Hispanic immigrants. That's usually what they mean because they're referring to our open border and the mass migration from Latin America. Okay, well, then why did Trump win 46% of Hispanics?

Seems like all of these groups in huge numbers did not think it was such a terrible night because they actually voted for Trump. And one of the few people crying is Jimmy Kimmel. Why is he crying? I think he might be crying in part because of his diminished relevance. The fact that I'm only getting to this story two days later, three days later, tells you the whole deal. Tells you that what the New York Times said and the Washington Post said, at least on this story, is true. That the establishment media's relevance and power

is greatly diminished. Smacking my cigar box around. I'm so animated by this. Greatly diminished. Terrible night for Ukraine. The Joe Biden grand strategy on Ukraine has been to use Ukraine as a meat grinder to...

to inadvertently slaughter lots of Ukrainians, but to do so for the purpose of slaughtering lots of Russians, which will degrade our adversary in Russia and in the grand strategic view benefit the United States. That's the actual strategy. I'm not reading tea leaves here. That is the explicit and intentional strategy in Ukraine.

Trump's strategy, well, when he was president, was to not let the Ukraine war kick off, which is why Putin did not further invade any country on Trump's watch. First time in 20 years that that's happened. But furthermore, Trump's strategy now is to end the war. Seems like it's a pretty good night for Ukraine. Seems like it's a pretty good night for the whole world. But not for Jimmy Kimmel. Tears in his eyes. And those people who voted for him, they'll find out too. Well, I don't know. Three and a half years, inflation's gone up by at least 22, 23%. Some places maybe more like 30%.

And mass migration has become so terrible that even the Democrat mayor of New York says that the Biden-Harris policy is going to destroy New York City. And wars have kicked off in Eastern Europe, in the Middle East. Both areas, a tinderbox. I don't know. Castrating kids, killing babies. I don't know. It seems like it's Tuesday night was a good night for everybody. And it was a good night because people went out.

Not only to give an electoral college majority, but the majority of Americans went out to vote for Trump because they know that a Trump presidency is going to be better. Quite a lovely night indeed. Now, if you're a homeowner like me, when is the last time you checked on the title of your home? If the answer is never, which it probably is, you need to know about a fast-growing scam the FBI calls house stealing.

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And finally, we talk a lot about these different demographics and these assumptions of where they're gonna go. Latinos in Texas, a district that's 97% Latino, went 75 percentage points for Donald Trump, why? Misogyny. No, it's on the border. It's a border crisis is on their doorstep. So they were begging people to care about it for years. We need to take some lessons. That's what that was. The lessons are not misogyny. Knock, knock, who's there? My gosh, it's whooping.

Okay, so was it Whoopi who said misogyny or was it one of the other ladies on the panel? I don't know. The first one, though, the fake Republican on the panel, Alyssa, whatever. She says the Latinos ended up cutting for Trump in this area and why it's because of the border. The border would be one reason. I think there are other reasons, too. But of course, the knee jerk reaction from the other ladies on The View, misogyny. It has to be misogyny.

And this ties in with the other liberal excuse, which is black people voted disproportionately this year for Trump because black people are misogynistic. Latinos voted overwhelmingly for Trump or disproportionately, I should say, for Trump because Latinos are racist and don't like black people. But now the view is adding on to that and saying, no, but the Hispanics also, like the black people, hate women.

how quickly they turn. When black voters and Hispanic voters play nice with the Democrats, and they don't make too much noise, and they don't voice their own opinions, and they don't ever step out of line, then they're the most wonderful people in the world. They can do no wrong. They're the dreamers. They're the future of America. They're the diversity that makes our country so great. But the minute...

Any of them, even a little bit black men, 20 percent vote for Trump. Hispanics, they don't even not even the majority vote for Trump. Just 45, 46 percent. The minute they do that, you hate women. You're racist. You are white supremacists. How quickly? And I think that is going to be a wake up call. This election was in many ways a wake up call to black voters, to Hispanic voters, to

to others who said, wow, hold on. We've been voting in lockstep with the Democrats for years now, decades. And I don't know, they seem to have gone a little bit crazy. They're taking our votes for granted. They're not delivering. Maybe we're going to vote for Trump. I think the reaction from the Democrats to turn on them on a dime, I think that's going to compound the problem for Democrats. Black people and Hispanic people and even women perhaps

are going to see where they really stand, which is that the left does not view them as particularly good, particularly wonderful, particularly deserving of privilege. They just view them as a political instrument to be exploited. And when the instrument doesn't work anymore, it's going to be tossed to the side. Now, speaking of women, there's a growing social media trend among feminist left-wing women who are reacting to the Trump presidency with what is called the 4B campaign,

to swear off men. Not that my content reaches a lot of men because I have an IQ of 130, but I want the men in this country to know that half the female population, we're dry. We're probably going to stay dry. I'm dry as a desert, baby. And I don't want it to change. Yeah, we're not going to like you anymore. You understand that? Like, it doesn't matter if you take away abortion. Like, we'll want to have your babies even less, right? Even if you take away contraception, like,

Women are really good at celibacy because you guys are actually a threat to us. So we have a lot less to gain from you. So yeah, 4B all the way. Let's make some money, I guess. That's all we can do now.

It's always the eyes. The eyes always tell the story. They're popping out of her head. And why is she saying 4B? 4B refers to a Korean trend that took off in 2017 around the beginning of the Me Too movement, which was also contrived and astroturfed and led by some of the greatest hypocrites in the world, in Hollywood and in the professional left. 4B refers to the refusal to date men

I'm going to botch all of these Korean words, so please forgive me. Biyonye, then it's the refusal to sleep with men. Bisekyu, then it's the refusal to get married, like specifically what they call heterosexual marriage, which in years past was just called marriage, but the refusal to get married. Bihon, and childbirth, refusal to have kids. Bikulsang.

So this lady opens up her video. This is probably the most viral of them to say, I have an IQ of 130, men, so listen to me. So because she has an IQ of 130, a fact about which she is boasting for some reason, she probably, she must know.

that this whole 4B campaign is just a reenactment of the ancient Greek play Lysistrata. Lysistrata is a play from the 5th century BC. It's by Aristophanes, a comedy, one of the most famous ancient Greek comedies. And the plot of the play is that the men are always going to war, and so the women on both sides decide they're going to withhold sex until the men make peace. That's it.

So that's the obvious parallel that most of these women are totally unaware of. But it occurred to me, in a way, the 4B campaign is the opposite of Lysistrata. Because the point of withholding sex from the men in Lysistrata is to have peace. But the point of withholding sex from men in the 4B campaign is to kill more babies. That's it. It's specifically about abortion. You heard her mention it there. It's not just about the Trump win. It's not just about Republicans. It's specifically about abortion.

So it's kind of the opposite. There's something noble about the women withholding sex and licensure strata here. They say, no, men, we will only sleep with you if you allow us to kill your kids and our kids. So I look at the 4B campaign and I say, well, if the options are women have tons of promiscuous sex outside of marriage and then murder their babies, or these women in particular just take a step back for a moment and are chased,

Is the 4B campaign kind of based? Does the B stand for based in the 4B campaign? I think perhaps it does. That's not bad. Now, some people are saying, oh, it's good. These liberal women, they are not going to date. They're not going to procreate. They're not going to get married. No, no. We don't want the liberal women to abstain from things like marriage and procreation and all of that. And the reason is sometimes you'll hear cynical people on the right. They'll say, no, no, it'll be good because then there won't be any new leftists being made. No, no, that's not how it works.

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And being more in touch with reality, it makes you more conservative. So we want the women to do that. But we don't want people to just be used and abused and have casual sex for no reason whatsoever that really doesn't make anyone happy. We want people to respect themselves. And we want to encourage marriage. We want to encourage childbirth and raising children. We want to do it in the right way. So if 4B is the first step to that, you go, ladies. You go, girl. More power to you. Now, speaking of procreation,

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My favorite comment yesterday is actually from Professor Jacob, and it's in a meme that he sent me. And the meme is a picture, I think it's of Kim Jong-un smoking a cigarette. And it says, in the midst of it's so over, I found there was within me an invincible we're so back. Wow, so true. So true is a consequence of Tuesday. Speaking of women having disordered and passionate reactions to the Trump win, some women, I

are shaving their heads in protest of the 47th president. Just woke up this morning feeling spicy. You guys feel spicy? Because I do. All right. I don't know how to use this thing. Let's see what happens.

Is this cutting off hair? I think I'm going to have to cut it shorter than that. Buzz it down, right? I think that this is too... It's getting hair. Let's see here. Maybe I got to cut it. Here we go. Have I given up on America? I have. I've also given up on coloring this hair because, right? Coloring my hair. Having my hair be long and luxurious. All that shit.

being skinny, being hot, being all the things that the patriarchy wants us to be. Because clearly, they don't give a shit about us. And I'm talking to you too, those of you ladies who have the internalized misogyny required to do what you did. Minorities who are so scared of a woman in power that you'd rather cozy up to the white man just in case some crumbs fall off his plate so that you may eat from them. Yes, perhaps. Wow.

I don't know how to work this thing, but I'm on my way. I'm going to figure it out. Let's just do some cutting. You know why? Because this is taking too long. So here she is, the liberal white lady lashing out at her former supposed friends, the racial minorities and the other women. Because she can't say that all the women opposed Trump. Many, many women voted for Trump. Married women opposed.

mostly voted for Trump, and even single women moved in his direction. So she can't say that. She says, no, you have internalized misogyny. You women, you actually hate women. You're laboring under a false consciousness. This is a term from the Marxist tradition that says that either you support the radical leftists or you've been tricked.

That the only conclusion that one could possibly come to if one has working faculties of reason is to support the radical leftists. So the only explanations, as long as you're not in the oppressor class, if you're in the good class, like the women in the minorities, is you're either voting for the left or you've been duped. So she says, okay, you've been duped, women. You have internalized misogyny. You're laboring under false consciousness. And for you minorities, she's even harsher. She says, you just hate women so much.

Forget about you black people. Forget about you Hispanic people. You hate women so much. Because really, you're just trying to suck up to the white man, that evil, terrible man. So she's raving and ranting, and then she cuts her hair off. I've noticed this over the years, that women, when they experience a trauma, often cut their hair off. Women who get divorced, women who are going through relationship problems, women who are experiencing even more serious issues.

traumas than that will cut their hair very short. And it just seems to be a natural response to processing some kind of trauma. What makes this so preposterous is that the supposed trauma is a very popular president being reelected so that he can fix the economy and our political order. Being reelected by the majority of Americans, you know, it doesn't seem all that traumatic.

But women do this. This is a real response to trauma. So this woman is really processing a normal event as some kind of shocking trauma. Why are these women so mad? I choose that word very specifically.

Sometimes you'd hear, well, look, animals get mad, people get angry. But mad also carries this connotation of lunacy, of madness, of craziness. And they seem a little bit crazy. Why have they been driven mad? In part, they've been driven mad by their anger. And I think they're angry because of their sadness. Anger is a response to the sadness caused by an injustice, St. Thomas Aquinas tells us. So why are they sad? Why are they angry? Why are they mad?

Ultimately, it is not because the mango Mussolini has ascended the throne. That's maybe in their fever dreams. That's what they think. That's not really what's happening. I think they're sad and they're angry and they're mad because they're wrong. I think that's what a lot of this diatribe was about. Notice it wasn't so she was angry that maybe you won't be able to kill as many kids in the next presidential administration. Maybe though Trump has said there won't be a federal abortion ban, but

What she seems to be really angry about is not any particular policy, new migration policy, new Ukraine policy, new economic policy. She seems to be angry that she was wrong about other women and how they would vote. She was wrong about how black people would vote, how Hispanic people would vote. She was wrong about how the majority of Americans would vote.

These guys were wrong about the political order. The country is not as they believed it was. And why did they believe that the country was left-wing and hated Donald Trump? And they believed that because the establishment media told them, and it was a kind of a self-reinforcing cycle, and they just got it wrong. They're sad and they're angry and they're mad because...

Their perception is not in accord with reality. And when you become divorced in your mind from reality, you start to go crazy and you start to seem crazy and you start to do crazy things like chopping off all your hair because you don't like the Republican Party. So the solution to that, and it's difficult, it's easier said than done. The solution to that is humility.

Not this kind of false humility of shaving your hair and being really performative in your self-flagellation on TikTok. It's humility to say, huh, I guess I got that wrong. Huh, I guess maybe my political opponents aren't all evil because then the majority of Americans have to be evil. And even the people I said were good, like the blacks and the Hispanics and the women, maybe they would have to be evil too in large part. So, huh, maybe I was wrong. And maybe my political priors are wrong.

And maybe murdering kids isn't the be all and end all of political virtue. And huh, maybe I need to rethink things. Because the alternative to that, that probably sounds terrible for the left right now, to have to change their views. But the alternative is to just continue to be wrong. That's it. So you can do that. You can persist in delusion.

with increasing heaps and heaps of evidence that you're wrong. But you're going to start seeming real crazy if you do that. This is why the transgender issue has become so prominent, is because it is exemplary of this precise problem of living in persistent defiance of reality in a way that becomes increasingly desperate and absurd, in a way that is undeniable. Tuesday's undeniable.

Most Americans like Trump. Most Americans don't think he's Hitler. That's true across demographic groups. So you can react to that by saying, okay, I'll cool it. Maybe I'll rethink things. Or you can chop all your hair off and rant and scream on TikTok or cry on national television like Jimmy Kimmel. The choice is yours, I suppose. Now, speaking of being wrong, Cenk Uygur,

He is the host of the Young Turks. Cenk Uygur has a message for his fellow Democrats. He says, don't blame the voters. Don't blame the Russians. Don't blame everyone else. Good so far. Listen to the voters. Good so far. They just sent you a huge wake-up call. Yep. They want you to go populist. If Democrats double down on loser corporate Democrats, they will keep losing elections forever. Turn around. Okay, well, hold on. He had me until the end. It's true. Voters do like populism, but I...

I don't think that's what Cenk's talking about. I think Cenk is talking about the populism of Bernie Sanders, maybe even Elizabeth Warren, maybe even AOC, the real explicit leftists. This strikes me as a little bit revisionist history because I was on air with Cenk Uygur when Kamala Harris picked Tim Walz as her running mate.

And I said, this was a big mistake for Democrats because Walls was too far to the left. He was really extreme on, especially on the transgender issue, but really extremely let Minneapolis burn to the ground. I mean, he was, he's a radical. Cenk said on a panel that I was on with him on the Piers Morgan show that Walls was a really, really great candidate. He was even laughing. I said, okay, well, we'll see who's right in the end. He said, okay, well, I'm going to be laughing on election day because Schumer,

She, Kamala Harris leaned into her leftist bona fides. She didn't pick the more moderate Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. She picked the guy, the Minnesota guy, you know, the real leftist. And that failed. So even the point that Cenk Uygur is making says, oh, these candidates, these were just corporate Democrats. No, you were saying they were left wing candidates. You were saying they were more populist candidates. But.

Even the distinction he's trying to draw between the loser corporate Democrats and the radicals, the populists, is a little bit of cope. The reality is that both the establishment wings of the Democrat Party and the populist wing of the Democrat Party are unpopular. And they are unpopular because both of them are divorced from the common good. They're unpopular because the corporatist establishment wing of the Democrat Party, which is now partying with the Cheney's,

That wing is really just about making money and doing whatever they want and pursuing their liberal social policies and just caring about themselves.

just greedy libs. And then the radical wing of the party is divorced from the common good because they're dividing everyone up into all these little groups and trying to pit them against each other, the blacks against the whites and the men against the women and all. But this election showed actually it doesn't have to be that way. People from across all segments, racial groups, sexual groups, class groups, socioeconomic groups, they can actually all come together because what the Trump campaign was offering was a message about the common good.

the common good, which is that which we hold in common, that which is good for all of us together in the state and the political community, and that which is good for us individually, all together. Good stuff. Keep listening to Cenk Uygur. Keep listening to the leftists. It's fine by me. Trump and his successors will reign for a thousand years. Just when the libs...

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Our mailbag is sponsored by Pure Talk. Go to puretalk.com slash Knowles Canada WLES today. Switch to a qualifying plan. Get one year free of Daily Wire Plus Insider. Take it away. Hello, Michael. Thank you for being you and sharing your light and your joy with us. You're my favorite pundit because I can literally...

Feel your joy every time I listen to you. And that's quite rare, especially in the political field. So thank you for being you. I have a quick question. Have you ever considered manufacturing miniatures for your cigar company? I would love the Dusk Blend if you can get to it. Thanks. What a great setup to the question.

with a question that was perhaps even more delightful than the setup. Your point on joy, that's great, because it seems like you're saying that I'm the real Kamala. You know, Kamala ran on joy, but she didn't seem very joyful. You're saying, I am the real Kamala Harris. Wow. Thank you. As far as the miniature cigars, funny you say that. You know, I have a cigar company, Mayflower Cigars, and we have two blends, the Dawn blend, a little lighter, and the Dusk blend, a little darker, fuller-bodied.

And I love smaller cigars. Not cigarillos, not cigarettes. I don't like any of them. Not the machine-made stuff, not the short filler stuff. But I do like a smaller, smaller ring gauge, shorter size, a long filler, premium hand-rolled cigar. I do like that. Will we be coming out with any of those? I have long suspected that women prefer that kind of cigar. But I think really the old school cigar smokers prefer that size too. It's a good question. Stay tuned. That's all I'll say. Next question.

Hey Michael, my name's AJ. First off, I wanted to thank you for staying after Liberty's Freedom Uncensored conference for a meet and greet. I know you had to be exhausted and had to get to your 2am flight, but you and I agreed that my question might be good for the mailbag, so here goes. What are your thoughts on the idea that the initial rejection by the church of the Polyphony of Palestrina is comparable to the rejection of modern worship music by some, putting aside differences in musical complexity?

Appreciate your thoughts. Really, really great question. I'll break it down a little bit for those who are not as familiar with church history and the history of music. Polyphony, when it came into the church in the 15th and 16th centuries, it was coming in after the typical liturgical use of plain chant or Gregorian chant. And polyphony includes harmonies and all sorts of complex musical arrangements.

However, there is a common misconception, a longstanding legend, that the church reacted negatively against polyphony, against harmony, against this complex music, or that it rejected it, or that it persecuted people for using polyphony. That's not true. There have been liturgical, beautiful uses of polyphony from the very beginning.

However, at the Council of Trent, what they were debating was not whether polyphony could be used in music, but whether polyphony would overshadow music.

the liturgy, the actual words, the sacrifice of the Mass. And even more specifically, it was dealing with whether or not music that was vulgar or secular could be used or appropriated for a liturgical purpose. And so what the Council came to was that this music certainly could be used in the Mass and was rather quickly used in the Mass, but it had to...

It could not overshadow the words. It could not cloud the meaning. It could not, you know, ironically, there's also another later modern, uh,

I think, historically ridiculous attempt to deride traditional liturgy and Christendom at its height by saying that the people didn't understand the Mass. They couldn't read the Bible. They couldn't, they couldn't, they were not open to the message of the gospel. All revisionist history, all nonsense. But actually, the debate over polyphony

was largely a debate that centered over making sure that the people could continue to hear the actual message of the music and of the mass, which...

which they certainly can in their wonderful Missae Cantate that, you know, sung masses that continue to be used in even the most traditionalist parishes today. This is not the same as the debate over modern worship music, which usually is terrible and, you know, comes down to sad, sappy little pop ditties that weren't even cool in the 1970s. There's a difference. There's a difference between Palestrina and some modern...

reject from a 70s ballad, you know, because there's objective beauty. So don't worry. We can feel perfectly fine about rejecting a lot of modern worship music. Some is okay, but a lot of it's very bad. And maybe we return to Palestrina. That sounds good. Next question.

Hello, Michael, big fan of the show. I just wanted to ask you what I should do as a University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point student who's, I love college and I love the friends that I've made, but I just cannot stand all the liberal ideologies that are going on that they are throwing down my throat. And I am a media studies major and I would like to do something in that field. However, I do not know if how much longer I can stand being at this place.

So if you have any advice on what to do, please give me a shout back. Sure. The question is, do you need the degree to do the job? Or do you need the degree even to get the job? Different questions. Usually you don't need the degree to do the job. You might need the degree to get the job. That's an unfortunate misalignment of our credentialing right now, but it could be a reality. So if you need the degree to get the job, you might want to stick it out. Or you could consider transferring to a college or university that's a little less crazy. Or...

I don't know. If you're working in media, often you don't really need the degree. So I think university education is good. I support liberal arts education. But the purpose of liberal arts education is not to learn a technical trade. The purpose of liberal arts education is to read dusty old books that don't have any direct, applicable, professional purpose.

They will just form your character and cultivate all sorts of interests and desires and help you make sense of your freedom. That's the point of it. So if you're not getting that at this school and you're not getting the professional training that you need, that's a big if. You got to answer that for yourself. And you're dealing with a bunch of lunatic libs. I don't know. Then I'd probably do something else and save your money. However, if you are getting a proper liberal arts education anywhere, that could be useful even if it's not directly applicable to your job. And if you need it for your credential,

Well, that's the way it works. You can either accept that or you can go do something else. Next question. Hello, Michael. Greetings from Oklahoma. I love the show and I'll let you do for the faith in the country. Just a little about myself to set up my question. I am a 25-year-old single woman still living in my parents' home and I've been attending the TLM at my parish here for about 10 years at this point.

"As I've heard you talk about many times on the show, I've been putting myself in an environment where good young men are to be found, but I've yet to be approached by anyone. I have long hoped to meet my spouse in a traditional manner, and the idea of using any sort of dating site, even a Catholic one like Catholic Match, has never appealed to me, mainly because I would feel like I am becoming the pursuer, while at the same time effectively putting myself up for sale, so to speak.

But I feel like I am coming to a crossroads when it comes to moving on with my life. And so my question to you is this. Should I just keep hoping and praying, as I've been doing for so many years, that someone will eventually find me worth pursuing? Or should I give in to the pressure brought about by my own loneliness and try the Catholic match thing?

Praying that the Holy Spirit will see fit to reveal his will to me through your words. Thank you and God bless. Okay, thank you. It's a good question. I'm sorry you're dealing with this difficulty that is so common in the modern age, which is loneliness and a confusion of the relation between the sexes.

So you are creating a neat dichotomy here that I'm not sure is quite so neat. You're saying, look, I want to be pursued in a traditional way. I want the man to ask me out and I don't want to have to put myself up on social media like I'm listing a personal or I don't know, advertising myself as a commodity. So I don't want to have to do that. That's why I don't want to use the dating sites.

However, I don't want to be lonely, and none of the men, even at the traditional Latin mass parish, are coming up and pursuing me. So what do I do? And I don't know what kind of town you're in in Oklahoma. It might be relatively small. The pickings might be slim. We say about dating at the traditional Latin mass that the odds are good, but the goods are odd. But maybe the odds aren't even good depending on how small your parish is. So I don't know. However, I don't think this dichotomy is quite so neat. Yes, you don't. There's something...

unusual about a woman being the one to pursue the man really aggressively, though it happens sometimes. However, when you get up in the morning, do you just sort of roll out of bed, hair all frizzy looking drab and just kind of run outside and go buy your cup of coffee or whatever? No. You brush your hair. Maybe you put on a little makeup. You wear a nice dress that maybe makes you look good or maybe you think it's good. What would you call that? Is that not in a way a

pursuing men? Is that not in a way at least expressing that you are available? Is that not? Of course it is. All the sort of posturing, all the way that we interact, the two sexes with one another, is a way implicitly or explicitly to pursue the opposite sex. So there are ways to put yourself out there that are not directly courting a man, which as you observe would be a

open up opportunities. I don't think it's just between sitting in the pew and waiting for the fellow to come up or putting yourself on a personal's website. Though you might do that too. Plenty of people have gotten married that way. But maybe it's about asking your friends and family to set you up. Maybe it's about being a little bit more intentional about how you're going to go about dating.

Maybe if you have a job, going out and asking colleagues to introduce you, to set you up with someone, it's being a little bit more intentional without being the one directly holding a boombox under some guy's bedroom window saying, please come date me. That would be a little odd. You can be a little bit more intentional about it. It's okay. More than one way to skin a cat, and women are clever this way. Women are not the passive creatures of

That the feminists sometimes say that they are, you know, without any agency, just pure victims of men. And they're not the passive creatures that you see sometimes in caricatures of chivalry, just there up on a pedal still waiting to be sung to or pursued. Women can be a little craftier too. As you see in Lysistrata, or even the 4B movement, I guess, we will be talking more about the 4B movement with my friend, Liz Wheeler. We'll be doing that in the next part of the show.

And I will be receiving, I hope somebody will be giving me my iPad so that I can speak, not to all of the hoi polloi out there, though I love you, thank you, and YouTube and Twitter and X and everything for being here. But I will be speaking to the members of the Chem du Lachem, that is right, the Daily Wire Plus subscribers who are here. Professor, please give me my iPad, thank you. By the way, do you want to show the people?

So, you know, Professor had grown a little bit of a soup strainer underneath his nose. He had a big, fat, creepy crumb catcher on his upper lip, and a lot of people didn't like it, myself included, most of the time. And now the Professor has a complete baby face. Look at that. Now, what do you think? In a way, I miss the stache. I miss it, too. You liked it? Yeah, that was hilarious.

was hilarious you know it was definitely hilarious the problem was of course when professor jacob accompanies me to my speeches at schools he wasn't allowed within 300 yards of the campuses and so so that was one issue with the mustache but but also it had the potential to become like a tom selleck kind of thing maybe in 10 or 20 years and now he's cut it off why'd you cut it off i did i i insinuated that i didn't say that explicitly okay who's here

Mama knows the truth. Married women look like looking nice and we don't want another man. So we have to look like hags once we're married. No, no, no. You misunderstand me. I'm pointing out you wake up married or unmarried. You wake up, you brush your hair, you take a shower, or maybe you put on a little makeup or something for a purpose. What do you do that for? Not saying you're trying to cheat on your husband, but maybe, maybe you want to look pretty for your husband.

I try, you know, I try to make myself look a little bit like an Adonis and a hunk for a sweet little Elisa. You know, I understand. I don't have to do that much. I sort of just wake up like this. But, you know, maybe I put a button up the shirt, try to put on a nice jacket so that sweet little Elisa still has that sort of feeling, you know, from when we were dating. You do this. You want because we want to, you know, attract our beloved. That's a good thing. So one can be intentional about this, single or married. And...

You don't need to just wait to be a passive recipient of fate. You can go out there and cooperate with God's grace in the various circumstances in which you find yourself. Congrats, Curls. I don't know what that's in response to. Let's see. Arun says, Unwoke, I would never ignore you. You're my third favorite Jew after Maimonides and Professor Jacob. And really, you're tied with a professor. That's a nice thing to say.

Women cleverly set themselves up to receive love, says Catherine. That is a more eloquent and, I think, precise way of saying it. Very true, Catherine. Landon Cora, Michael, tell that last questioner to call me. The DW should have my number. I've applied to tons of jobs there. You've applied to tons of jobs, and now you're applying for love. I don't know. Are we allowed to give out members' phone numbers to set them up? That seems like there's some liability involved there. I don't know that I'm going to do that.

Michael, I thoroughly enjoyed your election coverage on Tuesday nights. This is Alex. Thank you very much, Alex. Appreciate that. Harry Styles fan, Michael, I demand LDS representation or I will riot. Fair enough. Although, has a Mormon ever rioted? They're like the nicest people. They're so put together. They talk about dressing well. So that would be an odd thing to see, an LDS riot. But who knows? Maybe.

Chicken Soup says, Michael, when will sweet little Elisa make a cookbook called, Mac, what was for breakfast? That's a good question. I had a lovely breakfast. Nice, single. We only had one egg left, but because of the Bidenflation and because Elisa gets the college-educated eggs, that one egg was like $47. And so I had one sunny side egg and then two fresh chocolate chip pancakes and a double shot of espresso. It was good. Actually, if I'm being precise, two single shots of espresso. I prefer the single pull. It's much better. Okay. Now, speaking of women,

Sweet little Elisa, very put together, serious, rational, grounded woman. Another friend of mine, serious, put together, grounded, realistic. That would be my friend, Liz Wheeler. Liz, thank you for coming on the show. Hi, Michael. Did you really have chocolate chip pancakes for breakfast? I did. Elisa every day makes me some kind of, maybe it's lemon ricotta pancakes. Maybe it's a fresh sourdough waffle. Maybe it's a little muffins with my eggs. It's

It's good. Look, she's a grounded woman. It's a good life. It's a good life. Some women are not living good lives, Liz. Some women are not grounded. Some women are not put together. Are you familiar with the 4B movement?

Is this the moment that I'm supposed to shave my head on air today? This is, please don't. You have lovely hair. Liz, don't, don't do it. You remember about 10 years ago, women got it in their minds that it would be smart to just shave off half their head. Do you remember that thing? They had long hair on one side and like a buzz cut on the other. Yeah. I didn't remember that show. John and Kate plus eight. Didn't she have, wasn't she like the pioneer of that? She had like that long sweeping thing in the, in the shaved on the side. You're telling me a mother of eight.

She pioneered the most feminist and unfortunate hair trend of the last quarter century. Well, she turned out to be a feminist, so. Did she? Well, I guess I have to catch up on that show. I was not an avid watcher. Really, the only reality show I ever really got into was The Jersey Shore, but that's because it really reminded me of my upbringing. It's a conversation for another time.

For this conversation, Liz. That sounds like a conversation that viewers would be interested in hearing. When I was just there, a little Jim Tan laundry, you know, beat that beat up. Yeah. Yeah. That'll be, that's for the summer. That's for the, this is now we're heading into the winter and these women are heading into, it would appear, a winter of the soul of sorts. If you don't mind, Liz, we're going to go through a few of these TikToks of the 4B movement and you, as a grounded woman, can maybe give them some advice.

take it i would love to i just woke up and i'm still processing but i just want to issue a formal announcement to everybody in my life that i have now joined the 4b movement that's for one second secondly the first question i'm asking everybody in my life from this moment forward who did you vote for if i get anything aside from kamala

Thoughts?

Well, I'd like to laugh at her because part of it's comical. The 4B movement, you probably already went over this, but the 4B movement is a radical feminist separatist movement. It calls for women to reject dating men, marrying men, having sex with men and having babies. And

And it's not just a political movement. They actually want to reject men from every portion of their life. It is an anti-man movement here. So my first comment on the 4B movement is, okay, ladies, if you are trying to reject all of those things, dating and marriage and sex and babies, because...

You think you cannot abort your baby. We accept your terms. Those terms sound great to me. If this is what it took, this is what it took to get women to stop participating in hookup culture, to stop having sex with men who have no intention of commitment or love to stop aborting their babies. This is exactly what we hope for. Aside, of course, from their side dish of anti-man here. But the larger picture here, besides sort of laughing at the comedy of the thing, is it's very sad.

It's very sad to see these women so attached to abortion that they think their entire identity revolves around it. That to be who they were made to be, to achieve their potential, to be successful, to be happy, that they have to kill their unborn children in the womb. We, our culture is very sick, Michael. We have a lot of work still to do. I wonder, I like the idea that these feminists are going to be chased inadvertently, but I wonder if this is going to boomerang in a bad way because I,

What they're saying is we're going to deny our desires for men. We're going to deny our desires for complementarity or marriage or kids or whatever. If you didn't vote for Kamala, we are going to suppress all of our desires. And I wonder if that's healthy because the way that I would like people to vote for Kamala is if she's going to vote for Kamala.

people to be chased. The way that I would like people to just behave normally in all realms of life is not to suppress their desires, but just to make sure their desires are ordered toward the right purpose. I think desire is good. It's good to desire members of the opposite sex, but you don't want to be married and desiring your secretary.

You want to be desiring your wife. When you have a desire, if you're unmarried, you don't want to take that desire and go have a one night stand after getting blackout drunk at the bar down the street. You want to take that desire and follow that to get married and have a good life. And then you don't want to take that desire and use it to turn off the possibility of life and having kids. You want that desire to be fulfilled in creating kids. So it's

It's about sublimating and correcting our desires and actually following them in love rather than what these women are doing. It seems to me the opposite of love.

Well, it is. And the word that you used, suppressing their desires, I would call it, I mean, maybe they are engaging in a suppression of their desires that's disordered, but in a sense, it's potato, potato with self-control. When you're an unmarried person, are you suppressing your desire to go out and have sex with a lot of people or are you exercising self-control over that desire? The end is the same. And even if it is not rooted in the same order of what is good and right and beautiful, the

We're not just talking about the woman involved here. By not engaging in promiscuous sex and not allowing a man who has no intention to commit to her and love her and marry her to impregnate her, then she's saving the life of a baby that she admits that she would abort should she become pregnant. So that to me is the primary thing that when I see these videos, I'm like, okay, great. We're gonna save babies lives if you abstain from promiscuous sex. But yes, like I said, I also feel sympathy for these women.

I think a lot of these women have been harmed by abortion and have been harmed by men who abuse them. That's sort of the undercurrent of the problem with abortion in our culture that's been so unpopular in the last couple decades to talk about that I have hope that as a culture we're starting to red pill, not just politically, but there's been this big spiritual awakening. You and I were talking about this on my show last week or the week before, how a lot of young people are realizing that there's more to life than secularism and they're turning towards oftentimes the order of the Catholic Church.

And my hope is that that message can start resonating with some of these women, because a lot of them are so tied to abortion because they've had abortions themselves, abortions that have not only ended the life of their baby, but they regret them. They feel trauma. They feel grief from these abortions and their ex-boyfriends or whoever impregnated them coerced them into doing that. And it's a very tough thing.

Even though you and I can sit there and say, wow, that's so egregious. How could they do that? It's a very tough thing to overcome that mental hurdle to say, wow, I aborted my child and now I'm coming face to face with the reality of what I did. And I think the result of that is a lot of these women become attached to abortion rather than facing the reality. And that's what we see in these videos. Right. They either repent, you know, you get, it's not my line, but people say before you get the good news, you have to have the bad news. You know, either they accept the reality of what they did.

and then repent and receive forgiveness, or they go crazy, like a lot of the women in these videos. Okay, next video. All I have to say is good luck getting laid, especially in Florida, because me and my girlies are participating in the 4B movement. That's my next plan, and I'm dead f***ing serious. I voted for Donald Trump, and I have three children under the age of four, and there are many such cases.

It's sort of like, tee hee hee, good luck getting laid, tee hee hee. You know, we single women, we're just going to turn it off, okay? And we're not going to give you promiscuous. And by the way, single people, even if what you're pursuing is just like, you know, doing the deed a lot of times,

You're more likely to do that within the context of marriage. People look back on their single days and they only remember the successes. They don't remember the strikeouts. They don't remember the loneliness. It's so deceptive, the whole thing. And even if you do have a one-night stand or something, it's so unfulfilling. It degrades the person regardless of your, even if you're the biggest live in the world. You know, that woman like, tee-hee-hee, yeah, good luck getting laid. Actually, you know what?

I'm good, man. Maybe, how about you take a break? I mean, look at the statistics. Say it again. Look at the statistics. Look at the statistics and the studies. And I don't mean to be graphic here. I just, these women are putting it all out there, if you will, or not. And I think that we should look at, I read a study a couple of, this was probably early in the summer when we were doing an episode about Andrew Tate and the hookup culture and all of that. And if you look at the satisfaction rate of hookups versus sex within the context of marriage,

It was something like men only orgasm 60% of the time during a hookup and women only orgasm 10% of the time during a hookup with an otherwise stranger outside of the context of marriage. And I thought, huh, no one ever talks about that, probably because it's uncomfortable and no one wants to say it. But no one ever talks about that when they're talking about how wonderful the hookup

culture is compared to the statistics about sex within the context of marriage. Women specifically, men too, but women's sexual experiences obviously are more intertwined with their emotional security. Women report being the most satisfied with sex when they are married, when they are in love, when they are having sex with their husband. And yet these women are, I mean, in my opinion, they're missing out. I think they're probably missing out. And so maybe this underscores your point, Liz. Maybe these women do need a reset. Maybe they do need a little 4B.

a little sabbatical from the hookup culture, maybe that'll reset them a little bit and that feminism will end up being an instrument to having an actual good life. Next one. I'm going to be honest. I was very blindsided by the results this morning. I've decided that cigarettes don't count today. And I honestly might go get a tattoo. But I also have decided...

that for the next four years, I am going to abstain from schmucks with men. And funny enough, I actually just broke up with my boyfriend a handful of days before the election. As a woman, my bodily autonomy matters, and this is my way to exercise sovereignty over that. Delete your dating apps because

We can come together in community and if you need somebody to cuddle or hold your hand or give you a kiss, I bet you one of your girlfriends would do it. Okay. And you don't even have to really be gay. Okay. It's okay to have a lot of platonic love for the next four years. I think we can look to South Korea and the 4B movement as a point of inspiration for us.

Her advice is to just make women into lesbians. And she knows it, so she says, and you don't really, you don't even really have to be a lesbian to kiss your girlfriends and cuddle, but yeah. Just kind of gay. Just kind of, just a little. I mean, her ex-boyfriend, fellow, you dodged a bullet.

With all due respect to her. This was the interesting part of the 4B movement too is apparently these feminists, and they're pretty young. That girl looks pretty young to me. I don't know exactly how old she is, but it's not like these are older millennials that are talking about. These are Gen Zers. They say that this is going to cause a sharp,

population decline because they're going to refuse to have children. And I'm thinking, who among these women even has a child to begin with? These are not the women that are procreating, that are raising families, that are rearing the next generation of leaders in our country. I don't think the threat of population decline is a particularly risky one from them. Also, I think we're just reversing causality here. It

The way all of this is being reported is that the women are really angry and sad and mad because Trump got elected. And I think actually that the women are just angry and sad and mad. And then Trump got elected and they're pretending that's the cause of it. But I think it's no coincidence here. This woman who's really sad and she says, I'm going to smoke cigarettes now, even though I quit and I'm going to go get a tattoo. And who knows? She's probably going to cut off her hair or do whatever. And I'm going to do that.

because Trump got elected, because the guy who was already president got elected and he's going to cut taxes a little bit. And also totally unrelated. My boyfriend broke up with me a few days ago, but it's totally has nothing to do with what I'm not really sad about that. And you think like, no girls, you're, you know, there's that, that study that came out of Yale in 2008. So it's a little old now. It's probably the situation's gotten even worse. Women have become less happy over the past 50 years.

both in objective terms and relative to men. In terms of their self-reported happiness, it has plummeted. And now huge swaths of women are on depression pills all the time. Women in their middle age, women in their teenage years. They're constantly popping pills because of how sad they are, how unhappy they have become since, coincidentally, feminism hit the national scene.

And so they're trying to come up with all sorts of explanations for their unhappiness. I'm unhappy because of the patriarchy. I'm unhappy because of systemic racism. I'm unhappy because the mango Mussolini ascended the throne again. Or whatever it is, they just – but maybe they're just sort of unhappy because of how they're living their lives. And if they changed how they're living their lives, maybe they'd get a little happier.

Well, this is one of the reasons that I feel sympathetic towards these women. Why I can, yes, I will gently laugh at them because some of it's just funny, but also I'm not going to ridicule and mock them on a deeper level because they're, they're also victims. They,

They have fallen prey to what's now 50, 60 years of this feminist narrative that's telling women to stop being women. It's telling women to try to do what men do, to try to think like men think, to try to act like men act, to try to speak like men speak. And it's constantly telling women because you are the weaker sex, you are going to be taken advantage of, you are going to be oppressed.

You are going to be controlled by the patriarchy and to reach your full potential, suppress that desire to be a wife, suppress that desire to be feminine, suppress that desire to have children, suppress that desire to nurture those children at home. Your full potential is reached when you go cash a paycheck. That's where your true value is. And,

And generations of women have fallen prey to that because the societal pressure is incredible. But the result of that is exactly what you just said. I mean, I'm speaking to a group of young women tonight and this is partially what my message to them is. You matter as a woman, your womanhood matters. And to know what that means when I say your womanhood matters, you have to think not just what am I supposed to do in my life, but who am I? And part of who you are, you are a woman. You are not a person who happens to be a woman, you are woman.

And that matters. And I think our society, unfortunately, is reaping the sad results of when womanhood is desecrated at the very core. Why do you think women moved more in Trump's direction this time? Not just the married women who vote Republican, but even the unmarried women and even specifically younger women who we're told vote 100 percent lockstep with the libs. Why did they move more in Trump's direction this time over last time?

Because women, regardless of their age, regardless of their situation in life, have to fill up their car with gas, have to buy groceries, have to pay rent, have to pay electricity bills, understand that we could be sent to war thanks to the feminists, just the same as our husbands and fathers and brothers and sons, and that Kamala Harris has brought us to the brink of war in Ukraine. And

at the root, I mean, these radical feminists are of course on the fringe, these TikToks that we've watched, but most women don't hate men. Most women want to love men. Most women want to honor and respect a husband and want to be in full communion with their spouse, a man. That is a natural desire that all

women have. So we're not naturally bred to be anti-man. We're not naturally bred to have this contention. It's the result of original sin. You could say, you can look back in Genesis and see that there's going to be conflict between the sexes, but that wasn't the, that wasn't the original intention. That's not how we were. That's not how we were made. And, um, I don't know. It shows it, it, it shows. It does. It does because you know, the,

Sometimes in my experience with women, whom I really love very much, much more than the feminists do, I think, the women will say they want one thing.

but act as though they want something else. I think this, and men do this to some degree too, but I've noticed this with women. So the women will say, we want a female president and we want a man. We want a president like Kamala Harris and we want a man like Tim Walz. You know, we want a man like Doug Emhoff. We want a man like Pete Buttigieg. But,

Do we? They don't. They don't. They never do. They might spout all that. But, you know, if the girls are in college and they have the choice between dating that really nice liberal sensitive man who wears the onesie pajama, who, you know, sips hot cocoa and talks to your uncle about Obamacare or the quarterback on the football team.

100 out of 100 times, they're going for the quarterback. So there's obviously a chasm between what people are telling themselves and what they actually feel and desire.

Yes, because there's incredible social stigma. If a young woman who is a smart young woman who did well in school, who is socially charismatic, who is fit, if she is just like an all-around look-at-that-girl type of girl, and she says, actually, guys, what I want the most is to get married. I'm hoping to meet the one. I'm hoping to fall in love. I'm hoping to be a bride. I'm hoping to pledge my life to this man. I'm hoping to have his children. I'm hoping to make a home for him, to be the heart of his household, to raise these babies, maybe to homeschool them.

I hope that's what I want in life. You would not believe the amount of social stigma that comes with that. And it's one of the, again, I'm speaking to young women tonight about this very topic and I'm going to, it's sad that I even have to give them permission to allow themselves to want that versus, you know, which STEM field would you like to succeed in? Because we now have a lot of token opportunities

for you as a woman. Listen, I obviously do work outside of the home. You know this. We're friends outside of just being on each other's shows. We've worked together for a long time, but we are also personal friends. You know that I prioritize my family first, my children first, that I've turned down a lot of work opportunities, and I always will because I am

going to be present to my children because that's what matters the most. I don't want to tell tales out of school or anything, but when you do go on the road, you almost always bring your family with you. Always. My children are always with me. I've never gone on a trip overnight before without taking my children with me. Yeah.

Yeah, of course. Because they need the presence of a mother. Right. That is a good thing to do. It is something that you desire to do. It's a recognition. When I go on the road, I don't take my kids with me because you know what? My little kids, they actually prefer being with mommy a lot of the time than with daddy because men and women are different. Mothers and fathers bring different things to the table. And everyone knows that intuitively. When you were saying earlier, Liz, about the social stigma that all of this carries,

I thought back to Harrison Butker's speech at Benedictine College where he said, you know, I think a lot of you, some of you are going to want to do careers, some of you women out there. But I think regardless of career or no career, most of you are going to want to be mothers and wives. And he was lambasted by the feminist leftist media today.

The women in the audience applauded. The women in the audience were cheering. They obviously agreed with Harrison. Now, before I let you go, Liz, we actually have to circle all the way back because this conversation has become too deep, too fluent, too serious. Which was your favorite TikTok? Oh, my favorite TikTok is the girl that was like,

With her nails. That was the first, that was the first, the long blonde hair. That was the first video of the Forby movement that I saw. And I thought, oh girl, you're my first reaction was your terms are acceptable. This is, this is a good first step. Even if your motivation is not correct. Um, it's also just something to me that these girls brag about being hoes. Like, come on girl.

Yeah, at least keep quiet about things. Have a little dignity. My favorite is the last one, the girl at the end who she says, so angry. And then she admits, she goes, probably gonna smoke cigarettes and get a tattoo today. She's admitting, people fall into vices and sins. Well, they do it when they're stressed or anxious or tired. But then the thing that sealed it for me, and again, I'm not saying this is my favorite because of the pain she's experiencing. It's just so explanatory. She says, yeah, and

And actually, coincidentally, my boyfriend and I broke up a few days ago. That has nothing to do with why I'm so mad right now. And I thought like, oh, girl, like you're...

Just play that tape back to yourself. And here's my question. Do people get tattoos like as a stress relief? Like, do they just go out and act out and be like, my boyfriend broke up with me. I'm going to get a tattoo. I feel like sad today. Let me get some more ink. Do people do that? I'm pretty sure. I don't have any scientific studies on this. I'm pretty sure most teenage girls get their first tattoo.

specifically because they're having a fight with their father. I think that's maybe not 100% of the time, but at least 97%. Liz, I have to leave it there. Wonderful to see you as always. Thank you for helping to guide these women of the 4B movement. Thanks, Michael. See you next time. All right, let's get a few here. Yes, tattoos are a release, says...

Someone whose name is in Hebrew, so I can't read it. I should read Hebrew. I should read ancient Greek. I should read Latin better than I do. And I don't. And that's a pity. But once my kids are like properly being homeschooled, I actually probably will have the opportunity to get the education that I did not have in public school or even in a fancy university. Question in the mailbag from Donnie. Hey, Michael, has Donald Trump officially beaten more women than Doug Emhoff? Okay. Okay. Come on.

There was a Babylon Bee headline, Trump beats another woman. So Trump has beaten two women. And Doug Emhoff, I was talking to Megyn Kelly the other night. Megyn Kelly said a guy who would raise his hand and smack a woman generally doesn't just do it once. So again, these are all just accusations, but they seem kind of credible. And so probably the answer, at least what Megyn Kelly was insinuating, is the answer would be no.

But Trump has beaten the first two women presidents. The former future first women presidents. From Nicholas. Michael.

Long time listener to your show. Appreciate your insights. When I was a kid, my church was heavily politicized. Our priest condemned anyone that was not going to vote for Obama. My family has always been conservative. As an adult, my wife and I have settled on non-denominational Christianity. Everywhere I go, I find politics invading religion beyond discussions on abortion or human rights, except for in my non-denominational Christianity. My question to you is,

Does politics belong in a church? If not, is there a way to find parishes with no political leanings? If not, should we return to Catholicism? Thank you for your time. I think you will know, as a mackerel snapper myself, that I would encourage you and everyone to come on over, swim the Tiber to the Catholic Church. But you raise this point, you say, okay, right now you're in a non-denominational Protestant church, and you like that they don't talk about politics.

That's a problem. That was going to be a problem this election cycle. Evangelical, non-denominational Protestants had for a really long time been the backbone of the GOP strategy. They were rock-ribbed. Many self-identifying Catholics, people who don't practice the faith, who've fallen away, who deny the doctrines and the dogmas, they would split. Half the Catholics basically were conservative, and half the Catholics, self-identified Catholics, would vote for leftists, even contrary to church teaching.

But the evangelicals have been really strong until recently. They started to crack a little bit and go a little bit lib. And I think part of it is what you're talking about, which is that they say, well, we don't want to get involved in politics. That's not for us. What do I care who rules me so long as he doesn't make me sin? There's been a strain of that for some time. However, ours is an incarnational faith. We believe, if you're a Christian, you believe that God takes on flesh and dwells among us. Okay, so you...

uh you believe that faith looks like something that it takes place in history in the fullness of time uh and you believe that we're impelled to do things sometimes there's a debate between evangelical protestants and catholics over the nature of justification and it's usually just misunderstood uh the evangelical protestants will say that uh justification is by faith alone which is a faith alone is a phrase that appears only once in the new testament where it's uh

condemned. But they'll say it's by faith alone. And even sometimes Catholics will say, we believe justification is by faith and works, which is not actually a Catholic teaching. And it leads to all sorts of misunderstandings. Really what it comes down to, I think, and this is not an original idea, is that we're just using justification in different ways. So the Protestants are using justification to mean the way that we have sin wiped away and become righteous in the eyes of God.

And so that, and they're saying you can't earn your salvation, which is obviously true. The notion that you can earn your salvation is an ancient heresy called Pelagianism, which was condemned by the church many, many years ago. But when Catholics talk about justification, we're talking about a process that occurs throughout man's life that involves sanctification, that involves growing in virtue, that involves growing in holiness. And in that process,

There is work that occurs because, as James tells us, faith without works is dead. That faith looks like something in the world. Yet, we don't earn our salvation. God does everything. God gives it to us through his grace. But we are called to cooperate with God's grace.

And this is all a long way of saying this theological disagreement or misunderstanding does play a role in the question that you're asking because it means that we are called to do things in the world. We are called, thanks to the grace that we've received and in faith, we are called to actually do things. So when you see two candidates on a ballot, one wants to kill all the babies up until the moment of birth, one is the most pro-life president we've ever had, you have an obligation to vote for the pro-life candidate.

You don't run to the hills. You don't say, oh, but he's so yucky. I don't like his ties or something. You have an obligation to live out your life of faith in time and space because you are an incarnate creature and yours is an incarnate faith, an incarnational faith. So obviously incarnational that God becomes man and takes on flesh and dwells among us.

Speaking of mackerel snappers, I am joined by my fellow papist. That would be Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes fame, of Timcast IRL fame. Seamus, thank you. And also of Michael Knowles Show fame. Let's not leave that out. Last but not least, of Michael Knowles Show fame.

Yeah. Anytime I walk down the street, people stop me. You're the guy who did yes. No. Michael knows his shell. Like, yeah, that's me. It's me. Stand back. Please. No, please stop asking me. You're crowding me. Exactly. Calm down. By the way, I appreciate the explanation you just gave. Obviously, there's differences between the Catholic and Protestant view of justification. But I think so often we talk past each other on what that actually means.

And fortunately, you know, there's this great book, the Bible, which is basically for those who don't know a book that that Christians have so that they can memorize specific verses to own other denominations. And then just have those. That's the point of it, right? Of course. Listen, we're all guilty of it. We're all guilty of it, which it's not a bad thing to consult scripture for apologetics, but we're all guilty of just like having those verses that we always go back to and then rattle off as if we have the whole thing memorized.

You know, there's one line that I often go back to from Scripture, from the Old Testament, and I don't, I fear that I could be misinterpreted and people think I'm being glib or something. I'm really not treating Scripture in any glib way, but it's Leviticus 17, 7, and the verse is,

You shall no longer sacrifice your sacrifices to goat demons after whom you whore. And it's an evocative verse and a provocative verse. And so that's why, you know, there is something I like the bluntness of it, but it's also so real. It's so resonates today because it's,

Often in our popular culture, you will see actual goat demons and people literally whoring after them. And you just think like, wow, the basics of human nature don't really change over time. And the basics of temptation don't really change. And maybe the Bible has something to tell you. Now, Seamus, you know why you're here. Yeah, I mean, there needed to be some eye candy on this show. That was it. That was here. You are here as a thirst trap for the audience. You are also here to help me ascertain...

The fake headline amid all of the real headlines that the producers have found because this is Fake Headline Friday. So, Michael, I actually play this game every day of the week. Say it again. So, I actually play this game every day of the week, not just Friday, and all of them are fake. They're all fake all the time. Because you find your headlines in the New York Times and the Washington Post. Yes, exactly. You make a good... That's a deep...

A deep undercutting of the entire premise of this segment, actually. But I think he's right. I'm like actually surprised you found a real one. Yeah, yeah. So I remind the audience, you don't say that one. You don't say number one, number two. You have to say the whole headline because the chat's a little bit slow. Seamus, first one up. Donald Trump, the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. That's absolutely a real headline. We see the reemergence of Donald Trump as a presidential candidate.

That's absolutely a real headline. That's a real headline. It has to be. Joe Biden captured biting babies at White House Halloween party. Internet feels it's gross. No, I saw that one. But to his credit, and I think the media needs to defend him more on this, that baby was dressed as a chicken and he could have been confused. He certainly could have. Like a tasty little chicken. He went right for the leg.

I just want to say it is no longer the case that Americans can say we don't have a president who has bitten babies on camera. He's historic. He's going down in history. Can't take it anymore. Woman who married herself posted about divorce within 24 hours. Her post prompted discussion. Okay. I'm leaning real. I'm leaning real. Real like it's a real satire headline. Like I could see that as an unnamed Babylon. There's

Listen, reality is stranger than fiction, man. I have to hear the others before. Am I able to hear the others before I narrow down and give an answer? Do I have to give it immediately? No, no, no. You can hear there's one more. I'm going to put that one in the maybe pile. Two more. Harris supporter burns down her own house in protest of Trump win, sets local park on fire. In Shelburne, Vermont, a woman was placed under arrest Wednesday night after...

I actually think that the woman marrying herself sounds like a more real headline because what liberals do is they go into poor neighborhoods and burn down people's businesses, not their own homes. That's a good point. And also, there's not a comma after VT in Vermont. So, okay, I'm putting that. I'm also putting that in the middle of the pile. And it doesn't say mostly peaceful or anything like that. Right. How justified they were. Teachers seized disco equipment from 12-year-old boy who hosted rave in school toilets. Yeah.

That's true. That's absolutely true. I promise you that one's true. That has to be true. The teachers at St. Anthony's Catholic College in... But would it be... A 12-year-old wouldn't be in college. But do they mean college in the European sense, like a high school or a lower school? Yeah. To me, this one does not sound...

the least real of the rest of them. You think that one's fake. Okay. So, all right. I'm narrowing it down to these three. The woman who divorced herself, which you say is real. The Harris supporter burns her house down, which you say is fake. And the teacher seizes disco equipment from a 12-year-old boy. What's your take? I think that the woman burning down her house in the local park is the fake one. I think the rest are real. Still torn. Divorce. Toilets. But I...

What's getting me is not even just the, I mean, your point is good that the libs prefer to burn down minority businesses in Chicago. But I always look for grammar and punctuation. And I think there should be a comma after Vermont. And there isn't, which makes me think that Professor Jacob wrote this. You sound like a White House representative. There was an apostrophe there. That's true. I sound like a Biden White House representative. All hinges on a comma. This is true or false based on the grammar. Okay, let's see.

Let's go. Wow. You won. We did it. We got it. That's unfair. We got it. Oh, you got it too. Oh, oh, we both got it. I think we both got it. This was the one you said was fake, right? Yes, of course. Yeah. Okay. So we got it. So then the question is the woman divorced herself.

Yeah, she did. Sounds about right. Is that New York Post or something? It's kind of tabloid. Do you think the kind of person who does that type of narcissistic thing is going to be easy to stay married to? She threw a wedding for herself. A great point. She probably, how long did it take? 24 hours? Yeah. In a way, I'm surprised it lasted that long. I hope she can get the annulment and remarry.

How does that work with the bishop? I don't know. Is that covered in canon law? This also? The college thing? What are alimony payments? This was the UK. It was. It was college. Look at that little kid. Look at that little DJ kid. That's...

Seamus, you've done very well. And producers, I'm just going to blame it on Professor Jacob. You did not do well with your commas and your punctuation. Mr. Coughlin, first of all, everyone needs to go. Seamus has had cartoons coming out.

constantly during election week. So you got to go to Freedom Tunes and you have to see Seamus, of course, on Timcast. But most importantly, you've got to see him on the Michael Knowles show. That's what the paparazzi come up to talk to him about. Seamus? That's true. Everyone always mentioned it to me. My career has peaked. It peaked in that moment.

Yeah, definitely check out Freedom Tunes first and foremost. If you want to see my more obscure lesser known work, go over Freedom Tunes, see some of the cartoons that I make. I think you guys will really enjoy those. We're creating media and entertaining content. I think punditry is great. I love talking about this stuff, but obviously you guys at The Daily Wire also know what the conservative movement needs to be doing is create compelling media and we're

We've been doing that for years now. I think our product is fantastic. People love it. We get a lot of shares, hundreds of thousands of views per video. So go over there, subscribe. And if you want to help us make more, you can become a member at freedomtunes.com. You'll be...

funding job creation for non-woke, non-leftist artists who would have to keep their mouths shut about their opinions at a normal studio in order to stay employed. So it's good work and it helps us build up the culture. And they're just phenomenal. They're just great. Thank you. They've been bangers for years. They've been terrific and they only seem to get better. Seamus, thank you for coming on the show. Thank you so much for having me. My pleasure. Now,

We were waiting on Mr. Shapiro. You know who else we're waiting on? It was Dave McCormick. Because the race was called, Bob Casey, the sitting Democrat senator in Pennsylvania, to my knowledge, at least before this show, had not conceded. And we were waiting on a news conference that McCormick was going to hold in Pittsburgh. Has the conference taken place yet? Do we have any update on Pennsylvania? No, of course not. Because my producers are sitting in the control room making grammatical errors with their commas.

Any updates, Bueller, Bueller? No? Okay. We're trying to get Seamus out of this control room, all right? Give me a second. That's going to be tough. That's going to take you hours. Raven's Asylum, one key, 17. Dante is the inventor of the Italian language. It's a little overstated, but he did have a big effect on it. Though, given Dante's view of language, actually, he wouldn't call himself an inventor. He doesn't think language is the kind of thing that can be invented. He set out to create his own language.

perfect language in De Vulgari Eloquentia and or to arrive at the rules that would get you to a perfect language, kind of like medieval Esperanto. But then he gave up on that project. He actually kind of corrects it in the Divine Comedy. But I'm being pedantic. In large part, he is responsible for the language that is spoken as Italian today. JJ Triff, get him on DW Plus. I'm tired of memberships. That's a good idea. That'd be pretty fun, actually.

David Cormack has not done a speech yet, but he plans to today. All right. It's happening at some point today. Who knows? Maybe it'll happen during Ben's show. Joshua Stevens 8978 says, everyone needs to unsubscribe from Freedom Tunes. Yeah, that's right. Show that, Seamus. You get him. I've been bugging Daily Wire forever to have a Freedom Tunes show better than Family Guy, says Tyler H. Yeah, Seamus' work is just phenomenal. If you are not subscribed, you certainly should. Freedom Tunes is great. Love the work. No homos, says Flymeyan.

I vote for disco. Yeah, you guys, well, you would have gotten that wrong. My work computer has Freedom Tunes blocked, says Will Wall. Where do you work? What kind of joyless office do you work at that is blocking the work of Freedom Tunes? Is Carrie Lake going to pull it out, says Nova Sorta fan? Maybe. Maybe she will. We'll see. I mean, it's taking forever for the votes to be counted in Arizona. Took a long time in Nevada, too, and I...

Hope there will be some kind of challenge from Sam Brown's campaign. I don't know. I mean, I haven't seen the latest numbers. Sniper, look up Thanksgiving with Ben Shapiro. That was a particularly good one. Threat to democracy, of course, says the Senate. Not sure quite what that refers to, but I'm sure it's correct. It is an arson to burn down your own house, says Sisu. Although it could be insurance fraud, assuming you have homeowner's insurance.

The other day I saw Winnie Cooper and the mini driver driving a mini Cooper. Although it was lowercase mini driver, but it should say the other day I saw Winnie Cooper and mini driver driving a mini Cooper. That's a good, I like that. That's a real tongue twister. A little, little dated though. I'm not sure how many people remember Winnie Cooper and mini driver these days. Love Seamus voted for Dave McCormick.

The AP called it for him and Perry in Congress, but their competitors did not concede, says Keckrove. Yeah, to my mind, Bob Casey has not yet conceded. We'll see, though. I guess he's denying. He's an insurrectionist. He's denying the results of the election. We need more iPads, says conservative of family. Did the show cover what happened to Sam Brown, says Catherine.

Well, we're still waiting to see what happened to Sam Brown. I mean, the race, I believe, has been called for Jackie Rosen, but it was real tight. There are still votes to be counted. So we'll see how that goes. I hosted Sam Brown on my show. I know Mr. Shapiro campaigned for Sam Brown out there in Nevada. It was one race a lot of us were really hoping would pull out for the Republicans, but it looks like it will not. I guess that might remain to be seen. I don't know. Let's ask Ben himself. Ben, what's going on in Nevada?

So obviously the race is really close. Last time I checked, there's about a 12,000 vote margin in Nevada. There were some late dumps, always, always, always from Clark County, I believe is what happened there. I think it's going to go to recount. I think there'll be some legal challenges in that particular race. It's going to be a little while until we know exactly who wins that race. Meanwhile, the elections in Iowa over in Pennsylvania continues where Bob Casey refuses to just

that he lost to Dave McCormick, even though that race has been called with a larger margin than the races that were called in Michigan against Mike Rogers and Wisconsin against Eric Hovde. Both of those races were within like 20,000 votes. McCormick,

McCormick's up 30-some thousand votes, and all the areas that are coming in are ruby red. So that election is over, but Bob Casey refuses to acknowledge it. So, you know, in the end, you're looking at a minimum of 53 Republican seats. Maybe you get Sam Brown. Maybe Carrie Lake somehow pulls it out, although I think she's done like 150,000 votes right now in Arizona. 76% of the vote is counted over there. So, you know, that would be a bit of a surprise, obviously. But, you know, that's a big night for Republicans, considering they were looking at a maximum originally of maybe 51. So, you know, listen, the winning has not yet stopped.

Susie Wiles as chief of staff is a win. I mean, it means that responsible people are indeed around President Trump, as you would expect. He actually wants to succeed this term. He doesn't just want to meme. He would like to have an administration filled with people who are going to actually do things. I don't know, the optimism, it's an uncomfortable feeling for me, Michael. I'm not sure what to do about it. It just keeps happening, though. You take some Pepto-Bismol or something. I just have to wonder, though, when is Trump going to start surrounding himself with strong, intelligent women? You know, this guy, this misogynist...

He just refuses, other than that time that his first campaign was won by the first female ever to run a successful presidential campaign. And then after that, the second campaign actually was won by another strong, intelligent woman who is now the White House chief of staff. To say nothing of the dozens and dozens of other strong women and intelligent women around him. I don't know. He...

He's a confounding figure to those lids. It's also upsetting. I mean, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average continuing to pile up wins, I was informed by all of the great economists that inflation and stagnation were on their way. And then it turns out that the markets totally disagree. Well, Michael, you know, we're going into the weekend in a good mood. I hope that you have a wonderful weekend. I still have to broadcast. So get the hell out of here and I'm going to start my show. See you later. And I will see all of you later on Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. See you on Monday.

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