cover of episode Ep 234 | 'Yellowstone' Star’s Fight to Make America ‘Cowboy’ Again | Forrie J. Smith | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Ep 234 | 'Yellowstone' Star’s Fight to Make America ‘Cowboy’ Again | Forrie J. Smith | The Glenn Beck Podcast

2024/11/2
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Key Insights

Why does Forrie J. Smith take his hat off before dinner?

It's part of cowboy culture to show respect to the people feeding you.

Why are cowboy movies making a comeback?

The cowboy represents the American spirit and is uniquely American.

What is the cowboy culture according to Forrie J. Smith?

It's about taming the land, working with animals, and being a man of your word.

Why does Forrie J. Smith think ranchers care more about the land than city people?

Ranchers maintain and rotate pastures, which benefits the land.

Why does Forrie J. Smith oppose the idea of controlling cow farts for environmental reasons?

Historically, there were more farting animals like buffalo and elk.

Why does Forrie J. Smith believe the food in America has been screwed up?

Much beef comes from Brazil, and the quality is unknown.

Why does Forrie J. Smith think America has lost its way?

There's a loss of values like honesty and community cooperation.

Why does Forrie J. Smith think raising kids is scary today?

Public schools push agendas that confuse children and break family bonds.

Why does Forrie J. Smith think the 2024 election is concerning?

There are doubts about the security and fairness of the voting process.

Why does Forrie J. Smith think America might not be the same in five years?

Children are brainwashed, and past generations are lost.

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Forrie J. Smith discusses the essence of cowboy culture, its historical roots, and its significance in America, emphasizing values like hard work, integrity, and community.
  • Cowboy culture originated in Texas during the Civil War.
  • It embodies values of hard work, integrity, and community.
  • Cowboys are seen as symbols of American independence and resilience.

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Maybe you think of our flag, fireworks, 4th of July, burgers, fries. I mean, that comes to mind without anybody saying America to me an awful lot. But when you really think about America, I think mountains, I think West, I think cowboys. The image of a cowboy is,

perfectly captures the American spirit. It's a man taming the land, the West, working with the environment and with God, just carving a path through life, taming the animal, loving the animal, working with the animal, hardworking, godly, adventurous, sometimes bar-fighting, but it's America.

The cowboy is a man who believes in justice and family, has a healthy dose of, you know, kind of rowdy independence, but also is a man of his word. The cowboy contract is a handshake looking a man in the eye saying, I give my word. The American cowboy, a free man. Today, I'm going to talk to a real cowboy. I mean, he plays one on TV, but...

He is that guy. He has been his whole life. You'll know him as Lloyd Pierce, the oldest ranch hand on the fictional Yellowstone Dutton Ranch. But today, I want you to meet the man behind the role to find out why he is speaking up on issues that matter most to him. America needing more cowboys.

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Good question. I met Taylor on Hell or High Water. I was working as a wrangler, as the head wrangler on that. And I had horses and cows and my dogs and everything on that. And he told me after I had some issues, I had to get in the first AD's face, poked him in the chest and everything.

I had the guy that hired me, the livestock coordinator, move my truck and trailer. I didn't know who it was. I rode up, my rope team pulled him right out the door. You don't move my truck and trailer and reached in, took the keys out and rode back over next to Taylor. And here he come. And he's like, he won't be here tomorrow. He's run off. I'll run him off and he'll be gone tomorrow.

And he couldn't do it. I had half a dozen horses, 30 head of cows, 10 head of burros, you know, all leased under my name on the movie. You know, there's no way he could. But what was really cool, and I knew that me and Taylor would have

He leaned over my horse and looked the guy in the eye and goes, try and go move my truck and see what happens, asshole. He told me later, he says, yeah, I'm writing a modern, been contracted to write a modern western and you're going to be in it. Wow. Wow.

I said, yeah, I've heard that BS before. This is not from me, though, you have. And I'll tell you what, Taylor Sheridan's been a man of his word to me. That's cool.

Uh, you are a, I mean, you're a real cowboy. I mean, I mean, you can tell by the hat, first of all. Yeah. Cool hat. Thank you. I should take it off proper etiquette for me to take it off while we're doing this interview, but you will wear it if you want. Well, that's the way I was raised. Yeah. There is cowboy etiquette, real cowboy etiquette. Yeah. Uh,

I didn't know that about the hat. I'm going to have to remember. I know you wouldn't eat. You wouldn't have it off at a dinner table. You wouldn't wear it. You take it off in honor of your meal and to show respect to the people that are feeding you that day. Why are cowboy movies making a comeback right now? I think there's something about the cowboy that is so American that

Yeah, we're the only country. This is where cowboy came from. The term cowboy originated in Texas during the Civil War. The older men would leave to go off to fight the war. So even if you were a girl of the family, if it was your responsibility to ride the sections and fight,

keep track of your cattle. You were called the cowboy of the family and that was an honor when you went to town. I'm the cowboy of the family.

So, yeah, it's original right here in America. There's no... This is where it originated. Now, we had the Vaqueros from Mexico, and a lot of our culture is derived from them. What is the culture? What is the culture of a cowboy? Rodeos originated... They were having rodeos in Southern California before... So, it is rodeo? Before we were...

even in the United States. Really? Yes. The cowboy culture is... Wait, wait, wait. How do we get this right? Because Rodeo Drive, we always joke about we're going to the Rodeo. Right. Is that the Spanish version of rodeo? Yes. Rodeo means roundup. Roundup. Yeah. And they would have roundups, and then they would have roping and bucking horse riding contests and stuff. Yeah.

Chief Rojas, I've read all his books, and he explains it in there. They were bronc riders, them guys. You know, I just love, I think his name is Bill Pickett. Yeah, yeah. I love his stories. Yeah, they're great. He's fantastic. He's fantastic. So you were going into the cowboy culture. What is it? How do I explain that real quick?

I was 16 years old. I was on the JV basketball team, and we didn't get to practice until after varsity got to practice. So I'd have time to go home after school and feed the cows and then go back to basketball practice. My granddad had broke his hip, and he'd just come up and say, Hey, kid, I think I can drive the truck for you. Usually what I'd do is I'd put it in compound and put a 2x4 against the gas pedal

and then get in the back and throw the hay out. And it's quite a ride because you got all them frozen cow turds out there that trucks bouncing over. So yeah, I was grateful to have him come out and drive the truck for me. And when we got done, he says, I have time to look at my cows, kid. I said, yes, sir.

we're driving around through the cows and he says you know we're not gonna make i'm not even gonna break even this year maybe i think we're cows were selling for 35 cents a pound then her calves yeah and uh he said if i could get 39 cents a pound i could i could break even i gotta he says my kids out here busting his butt and you know he's just this is ridiculous why are we doing it granddad

He looks at me, he goes, son, we're helping feed America. We're helping feed our country. And that's kind of the cowboy culture right there. There's a bigger thing than what we're doing out here today. We're helping feed our country.

We're maintaining the grass and rotating our pastures to keep everything right. It drives me nuts that these greenies...

Come in and try to lecture people who are farmers and who are ranchers. They care more about the land than anybody in any city that has some PhD on how to take care. I mean, they care about the land. They take care of the land. The worst neighbor I have is the Bureau of Land Management. They're horrible. Horrible. I've dealt with them.

I was on a ranch in southern Arizona. I left Hollywood and I went back to cowboying. I went and the BLM guy come over. He was going to fine me for overgrazing this one pasture. And I said, well, I'll tell you what, Pard. You come back after the monsoons. And if that pasture doesn't come back better than it ever has been, you can go ahead and fine me.

And I said, you go tell my boss what I said and everything. Well, what I'd done was I'd put them cows in there and they'd ate off all the weeds in the spring. And so then when the monsoons did come, the weeds were all gone. It looked like a golf course out there.

And I said, yeah, that leaving 50, 60%, that leaves the weeds. And I said, we need to graze it down to 20, 25% like I did. And then it comes back, the grass comes back. And I'd learned that from working at the Empire Ranch, Mac Donaldson. He's a great man for the land and taking, he's the one I learned rotations from. And yeah, it's just nuts that they don't,

Think we're taking the best care of them. Another thing, Glenn, that really gets me is the cow farts.

The cow manure. We used to have 60 million buffalo and no telling how many elk running across the plains. And they were farting animals. Yes. Bigger farting animals. Yeah. And now people are, yeah, it's, well. Can you explain this? I mean, I don't know if you would have any. I can give you a theory. Yeah, give me a theory. I don't know if I can explain it. I live in,

Down the street, probably like 20 miles away, down the street from a guy who has a huge buffalo ranch. He has about 5,000 buffalo. The most amazing thing you can see is them coming over the hill. And you can see how much of them are beefalo as they look more and more like cows and how much really are bison, you know, are close to bison.

There are no pure bison except in Yellowstone. And it's my understanding that they sometimes thin the herd and they just kill them instead of giving them to ranches so we can have purebred buffalo. The only pure buffalo or bison is owned by the government.

Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. Oh my gosh. I didn't know that. He told me that and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. And he's like, we beg. We beg for the bison. They slaughter them and bury them. All these people going hungry. It's about one of the best meats you can eat. Oh, it's so good. So good for you. And good for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people don't know this. Corriente and Longhorn...

are the most healthiest beef you can eat the low in cholesterol and and uh yeah it's the you know the longhorn yeah that's where it all come from was the longhorn yeah um and then buffalo it's yeah i i just there's so much waste in this country um like it's right there um

My cousin, Oklahoma, he's got 80 acres of pigs are taking over hogs. And I said, well, they've intermixed. And I said, well, we'll go down there and have us a hog killing. Yeah, whenever you're ready. I said, yeah, we'll wait till after the freeze where we can donate the meat, you know.

And I see all this roadkill. There's a lot of good, especially around Rio Doso, New Mexico, there's elk and deer all the time on the side of the road.

We have deer kills all the time. And when I first moved up into the mountains with real people, not city people, you know, somebody hits a deer. Boom. They put it back in the back of their truck and, you know, eat it. Yeah. Not just push it off to the side. Bleed it out. Yeah. I was, we had two cows hit on the county road. Montana's open range, like New Mexico and Arizona also. Yeah.

Meaning, if you don't want cows on your property, that you've got to put a fence up and fence them out. And so, granddad, we got two dead cows. He got the driver. They had to pay and everything. But he called the Two Teeths, Crow family in the Helena Valley. They came up there.

And the only thing left of them two cows was the gut pile, the manure pile, and blood stains. And we later on had some killed on the railroad. And, of course, it's up to the railroad to keep their fences up. So they had to pay Granddad for them cows. But, again, he called the two teeth. And they come up there. And, you know, them cows had been dead for years.

Oh, probably 12 hours. They didn't care. They'd come, bled them, and they took everything. Wow. And so that's the way I was raised. And I was raised, one of the reasons I think I'm so healthy in my older age, I got a good lady that's on top of it. Yeah. But I was raised on a garden.

About the only canned things we ate were McNally's chili and canned peaches. Everything else was out of the garden. All our meat was either wild or off the ranch. I think we have really screwed our food up. Oh, man. Yeah. And...

It's like 30% of our beef now comes out of Brazil. I know. We don't know what has been done to it. What did they inject in it before it got butchered? Right. How are they butchering it? We have no clue. I know. I don't know why we can't get...

What do they call it? Signed and say, this is USA raised. This is USA beef. Well, they have the little flag that says product of USA. That doesn't, that's not it. That means it was butchered or packaged here. In the USA. Yes. It doesn't mean it's USA beef. No. And why are we having to go to Brazil to...

To buy beef. I mean, our ranchers, I think it's the biggest mafia I've ever seen are the meatpacking plants. Yep. The what, three or four companies? Yep. They're absolutely, they're mobsters. They're mobsters. And they rip our farmers off like crazy. Well. And at the same time, they're the ones making the fake meat. Yeah. Yeah. And it's making people sick, giving people issues. But you want to talk about mobsters. Yeah.

How about, I can't remember the company's name, that the oil companies and car companies came all together and made this company that went around and bought all the trolleys in LA. It was GM. It was GM and Goodyear. Yeah, but what was the name? They formed a company. Oh, I don't know. It was a different company. And later on...

Years later, this is like 57. Yeah. They do away with all the trolley systems and now they got big stink or buses that nobody wants to ride on because they're crowded. So they go out and buy cars. That's what they wanted. They want them to buy cars. So they'd be buying cars and gas. And tires. And tires. Yeah. Yeah.

We had the best city transportation ever. All the streetcars all over America. Yeah. Well, they weren't selling cars. They weren't selling tires. They weren't selling gas. So those companies went together and bought them out. That's kind of mobster stuff, too. So we have, I mean, we started with the cowboy culture. And I think, and I'd love your point of view on this.

I think America has so lost its way on your word is your bond, your handshake, you know, cowboy, uh, your handshake. It was, is a contract. Um, the, just tell the truth. Don't bull crap me. Just tell me, just tell me the truth. Um,

Working together, when we bought our farm in Idaho, we brought the kids out. I was living in New York at the time, and I realized I hadn't seen anything but man-made stuff. You're in New York City. You're not seeing the stars. You can't see them. And if you don't see the stars, you don't sit there and go, man, are we small.

You know what I mean? And so we bought a farm so we can move out and have the kids, you know, grow up. And I grew up on my grandma and grandpa's farm in the summertime. And where was that? It was in Puyallup, Washington. Oh, nice place. Yeah. Or it used to be. Yeah, it used to be, used to be. And, and I, at the time I only just wanted to get away. I was a big city kid. You know, I just want to live in the big city.

Now, I get my right arm to get away from even this city and live full time out in the middle of nowhere because common sense comes back and also caring about your neighbor. And not just because you have to, because if you're farmers...

You could be the best farmer, but you're going to have a bad year and they'll have a good year and they're going to help you. And you better help them because at some point it's going to be you that needs help. And then the fact that you can be the best, but God is required. When we moved away and we moved into the cities, all of that was lost. And I think that's what is plaguing us. And I think that's why cowboys are making a comeback.

Because it represents America. True America. Marx and Hitler both, they knew that if they controlled the children, they controlled the future. And that people that had no faith are easier to bend. And my grandmother taught me,

Oh, my cousins were Catholic, and we'd go to the Catholic church with them and midnight mass and stuff at Christmas, and they're all getting baptized. And I said, Grandma, should I get baptized? She goes, no, it's up to you. And I said, well, what religion? She goes, I'm not of any denomination. I said, well, how come, Grandma? She says there's too much blood been spilt between these denominations.

and I don't feel that that's a godly way. But I do know there is a supreme power, that there is something else going on in this world, and that you need to acknowledge that. And I think it's easier for cowboys and ranchers and farmers

that see it every day every day you know you see the miracle of birth and death and uh um the miracle of things growing and and just how it all works you realize that uh and the beauty of a sunset you know or sunrise um and the stars yeah and honestly

The beauty of people. I love the people of my small town. And I'm surrounded down here by a lot of great neighbors. But there's a different quality. I was just out in Asheville, South Carolina, North Carolina yesterday. And I would live with those Appalachian people in a heartbeat. It's just, it's...

It's just different. It's just different. It's great. You know, there's two things I'm really proud of. One is being called a legend at rodeos. Because you grew up in rodeos, right? Your mom was a barrel racer? Yeah. My granddad rodeoed back when they rode horses to the rodeos and stuff. And the other one is everywhere I've lived, I've been called a good neighbor. And that comes from my childhood. We lived on a...

hillside, mountainside in Montana, there was three families that lived there year-round. There was us, Palmers, my grandpa and grandma, the Wing family, and Norman Bruce. Then there was a couple other places where people would come and spend the summers.

But we depended on each other. We took care of each other. The wings plowed our roads and took care of our roads in the winter. Granddad and I go castrate their colts in the spring. We'd help them move cattle out on the forest service in the spring and the summer and go gather them and bring them back in the falls. We all just worked together. It was a community.

There was 13 kids in eight grades when I started grade school there at Montana City. My granddad was the self-acclaimed mayor of Montana City. And we all just got along. The place I lived at before where I'm at now, my neighbors across the road, their politics and mine, for example, I opened the barn door and there's a rattlesnake coiled up ready and

My neighbor was just across the fence. And I says, hey, you want to relocate this snake, you better get over here before I get to my gun. So, boom, he come over and had a little deal. He snared that snake, put him in a bucket, took him off back up on the mountain. Well...

um i shoot the rattlesnakes yeah probably yeah so that's just kind of showing their their politics politically go down that line so we came to an issue where we couldn't get the county to work on our road so this guy's a computer tech i mean he can do some things with computer and then my other neighbor he has heavy heavy equipment and uh

So I went into the county commissioner and I told them, we're going to fix our road. You guys won't fix it. And we've,

my neighbor on the computer has found where it is a county road. It should be maintained by the county. But you guys don't want to do it, so I'm going to buy the diesel from my one neighbor that has the equipment. This other neighbor's got all the permits and everything lined up on the computer to do this, and we're just going to fix our own road.

Oh, we're waiting for federal funding. When did this start happening? Everybody waiting for federal funding. I know. This is America. We do on our own. I know. And that's what I told them. I said, we'll take care of this. That money should go to the schools or something else. We'll take care of this ourselves.

Well, boom, then they all came out and they wanted to see what, you know, they got involved with it. And that bothers me so much. Those neighbors from Hell's Kitchen, she told me, she said, Forry, thank you for being such a good neighbor. And I was like, you know, I hope I'm as good a neighbor to you as y'all are to me because they were great. But our politics were totally the opposite. Doesn't matter. But it kind of helped, you know. Yeah.

Kind of seen my side and he opened my mind up to some other things. And then I was flying to Chicago for a WGN interview and doing a Shriners charity. And on the way up there to Dallas, I stopped in Dallas to go to Larry Mahan's memorial. And I got on the plane. He was in his 80s. And then I sat down. He got a grin on his face. He said,

This might be an interesting ride. I said, what's that? He says, because I think our politics are probably different. And I said, well, let's talk about that.

And we had a two-hour, whatever it is, from Dallas to Chicago. Just a good visit. We sat there and visited. And he opened my mind to some things. And I opened his mind to some things. And it was just a good visit. And I got off the plane. I was helping some people get their stuff. And he got off before I did. And he waited for me in the tunnel.

and he shook my hand he says this is what this country needs more of and I said yes sir. Absolutely. Just sit down I said but what I think Glenn is it that's the computers everybody can go they can they don't have to compromise in a conversation with you or I they can go home to their computer and get with their little group oh what a jerk that guy was oh yeah they don't they aren't gonna listen

Or, you know, explain themselves. Because they got their own little group they can go back to. People they've never seen, probably. You know? And might be controlled by some other group that's wanting to create division in our country. It is... Raising kids is so scary right now. Oh, man. Especially public schools. Oh. I mean...

I just, both my kids, just the last two are out of school now. One's 18, one's 20.

I was hair-raising. It was absolutely hair-raising. Because they're dealing with stuff and you're like, I don't know. None of this stuff existed. And you feel like you're a thousand years old because you're saying the things that you swore you wouldn't say when your grandparents would talk to you. You'd be like, okay, Grandpa. It's moved so far in a dangerous direction.

You know, my grandpa and grandma didn't trust the government. Mine didn't either. 1973, Merle Haggard released You're Walking on the Fighting Side of Me. So we've been in this battle before. I've got great-grandfathers that tore up the papers on their wives because they didn't want any government assistance because they're Indians, and they did not want any government assistance.

One of them was from Ireland on my grandmother's side. He came over and they conscripted him into the Union Army before he ever got a foot on America. Made him mad. So he became a spy for the Confederacy. After the war, he moved to Missouri and married a Cherokee lady.

And he was like, we don't need any of their help. Tore up the papers. That's what I found at the hurricane in North Carolina. I mean, they're wondering why they don't matter to the federal government. But I have two people telling me,

One of them set up all these retired soldiers, special forces guy that live right in the community or right around. They set up a clinic because nobody was there. So they just did it themselves. And yesterday or the day before, FEMA comes in and they said, you know, you don't have a license. And they said,

We've been here for seven days. Move. Move on. We're going to continue to do what we know is right. And that's America. That's America. That's America. Yeah.

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So talk to me about a little bit about Yellowstone because I'm a big fan. Well, thank you. Yeah, big fan. You guys are just... Me too. Yeah. And I'm so bummed that it's coming apart and, you know, I don't...

You know, I hear both things about Kevin Costner. You know, it's not his fault, too. It is his fault. I don't know. I don't either. Yeah. I stay out of that kind of stuff. Yeah, good for you. But how bummed are you with it? Well, I'm not really bummed. Really? Kind of. Yes, it was a great ride. I really liked it.

The character I was getting to play, I liked Taylor's writing. That guy's a genius. Well, yeah, he is a genius. And the way he pulls it off and puts everything together. But it got to be the last...

you know, we don't know if you're going to work. Well, you know, it just, the turmoil that started there and it started about the third season when it was a hit, when everybody realized, see, nobody thought in Hollywood, especially, oh, this ain't going to go. You know, in fact, HBO didn't pick it up when, when,

When I first got involved, it was Robert Redford and HBO were going to. Wow. They didn't think. And then after the second year, and they got this cult following going. Now they're all like, whoa. Money in the hands. Yeah, things started.

and uh it got did it break the cast up at all not the cast no well it was one of the cool things about it is how we all came together actually probably made our acting and um a lot of things better because of how we did come together and gel together as a family and uh but the the that chaos i mean if it was just uh

Yellowstone and hey we're gonna film May through August boom here it'd be great but this never knowing and okay we're gonna go now and then oh now we're pushing that's because of the movies that

Costner or whoever was doing right that's what breaking it up yeah well we don't know I don't know yeah that's not not my wheelhouse it's just I know that everybody got put on hold that Elkhart you know they see your money and compensate you but

still you got a life it was bad for the the audience too you're like like this is the second half right of the seat what is it season five yeah so second half i don't even remember what happened you know in the first half i have to go back and and watch it it's it's it just takes so long in between it's the beginning of the end is what i've been um yeah but the taylor's writing that

But whatever happened there is water under the bridge now, and I'm better off and a broader and bigger man than I was when we started. And it's just great.

Oh, and like I said, all that's out of my, I can't, I don't know what happened there. I don't really care, but it's not Yellowstone. It wasn't the script and all of that is beautiful. I would love to go on for 10 years. But all that other stuff that came out of this, Taylor and Kevin,

I don't know if that's where it all started, if it started somewhere else, all this friction over the money and the power. It's so sad. Yeah. Because it was really good. I mean, in a way, I kind of feel bad for liking the family, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Because it's almost...

It's almost like a cowboy version of the Sopranos. Almost. Oh, yeah, yeah. With the second year up there. Oh, this is a Dallas Sopranos cross. Yeah, it is. It is. What's cool about when people tell me that is cool is because Patrick Duffy, one of the stars of Dallas, is from right down the road, 30 miles from my house. Really? Older Montana. Really. What's her name? Kelly Riley? Kelly Riley. Kelly Riley.

Great lady. My gosh, that is the best character. I think the best, I don't know, villain character I've ever seen. She plays it so well. And I had no idea she was from Great Britain. And I read a story and I don't know if this is true or not, but she said she didn't.

She used an American accent the entire time for like the first week because she didn't want people to say, she's British. She's not going to be able to pull this role off. Is that true? Yeah. It's amazing. She had an acting or speech coach or whatever. And this last season was the first time I ever really ever heard her have trouble with it on, you know,

But, yeah, I didn't know either the first couple weeks. And it's an oxymoron, I guess you'd call it. She is just a sweetheart in real life. How she can play. I get people come up and tell me, oh, this is the best of the family. And I'm like, ooh. And they go, what? I go, well, you know. So that's kind of our culture is so weird right now.

My wife has a t-shirt that, you know, I'm having a Beth day or something. And the culture, the thing I think that is the secret on that is even her, she is fighting against the machine. You know what I mean? Maybe not fairly at times, but...

The whole thing is fighting against the machine. Yeah. And that's... That's cool. That's cool. That's cool, especially today. Yeah. So you're from Montana. Mm-hmm. I know a lot of people from Montana that...

are kind of pissed at Yellowstone yeah yeah because this is what I've got to say to them and I know what you're talking about because you go in some of the bars we had trouble we'd be out filming on the road people be flipping us off call it and then the other ones yeah we love you you know yeah reminded me of being in Mexico back in the early 80s I was down there um

But this is what I got to say to you Montanans. I came up there in 2017. I'm from Montana. I love Montana. I worked in the Bitterroot Valley cowboy when I was 19 years old. Montana was ruined when we got there in 2017. It wasn't because of Yellowstone that you guys are selling property to these out-of-staters and stuff. Yeah, don't blame Yellowstone.

because it was already messed up when i we got there in 2017 and the housing problem is is national it's not just because of yellowstone in the bitterroot valley this is happening all over the country right now it's funny because it's that is the story of yellowstone keep

keep these people out. We want to preserve, you know, what we've always had. And these people are coming in. I, I, I remember I, um, I, cause I considered moving to Montana, which I wouldn't now because, you know, now the New Yorkers are there and the big money people are there. And I'm like, you, you come in with your big money and you think you're safe and

Everybody around you knows things go to hell. You don't know how to survive. You know what I mean? - Right. - But-- - You know, when I first got in the movie business, and I can't remember, but the girl I was with, she says, "How do you get along with all these multimillionaires "and everybody, all these big producers "and studio execs and everything?" You walk right in among them and just boom.

I can survive with a knife. What does that got to do with it? I says, when the world goes to hell, I'll be the one they'll be looking for. That's exactly right. My granddaddy taught me how to survive with a knife. And I said, so I feel just no, doesn't matter how much money you got. I can survive. And that's worth a lot of money. And so. Worth more than money. When money doesn't matter.

Who cares? Yeah, and I'm rich in family and friends. I've always felt that way. And I ride good horses and I'm good dogs. I'm a rich man no matter how much money I got in the bank. Thank God, you know, Taylor Sheridan, I've got some money in the bank. But I look at it as...

I look at my life that I was rich. I'm rich, doesn't matter how much money is in the bank because of my friends and my family. My mom gave me her old one-horse trailer, 1957 model, bought and paid 500 bucks for it.

Me and my little brother stared at the front of that trailer for probably a million miles going down the road in the back of the station wagon. That trailer's been to every rodeo west of the Mississippi and in Canada and the United States. But I pulled into a friend's house with it and needed to do some work on it and stuff. And I had me and this guy rodeoed together and sold Kirby vacuum cleaners together. And I hadn't really been around him for years.

I pulled in there with that trailer. I didn't have to go to the parts store. I didn't have to go to the mechanic. I didn't have nothing. We fixed that trailer right up, and I pulled it home back to New Mexico. And that's the kind of friends I have. But I think that's the kind of friends that you make when you're in those communities. Yeah. You know, everybody is. I was having a big family reunion yesterday,

And we had just finished building the ranch and we were way behind and all these trucks with furniture and everything coming in. And,

Like I get off the air and I come upstairs and here are all my neighbors and they're putting sheets on the beds. And I felt so guilty. I'm like, I'm, I'm, you shouldn't do this for me. I'm not a good neighbor yet, please. But it was amazing. And, and I kept saying, please stop, please. We can, we can do no, we're your neighbors. You got relatives coming tomorrow and you're never going to be. I mean, it was like,

crazy great. Just crazy. I seen it when my dad died, I was seven. When my grandmother died when I was 11 and people came, fed our livestock for us, made meals for us. It was just, I'm getting choked up remembering how the community just came to us. We didn't make any phone calls. We didn't, they just showed up. And I

My grandmother's funeral, there wasn't even room in the parking lot for people. I mean, they came from out of the woodwork for my grandma. And, um...

But yeah, that's what I was raised with. And that's probably why I'm such an American now is because I've seen America at work. I've seen Americans and what they do and what they hold special to their heart. So how can we get, because there are in ways two Americas. And I think what, I think it's honestly not being American.

around small towns and farmers and everything else i think the city and i know this for myself i grew up in a small town you know there's garbage on the street you pick it up you put it in the trash can you know what i mean yeah and i was in new york and i had been there for about three years and the taxes were out of control and i remember walking up to my building and there were newspapers and garbage blowing in the street and i turned to my uh friend and i said

How much money do I have to pay for this to be a clean street? And I stopped and I went, I've got to get out of the city. Because I was just, I was mad at the city for not doing something. Because that's the way you're trained in those big cities. You're trained. You don't do that. And I didn't want to live like that. I didn't want to become that person. How do we...

How do we regain this? Well, I'm not sure. I'm trying to do it by example. That's one of the reasons, low down, you know, on the list of reasons, but is to maybe get other people, wake other people up to that. And one of the things I tell people is, you know,

I've always, every day, I try to make the world a better place. And sometimes all it is is being able to pick up some trash along the road or opening a door for somebody or helping somebody with something.

But I've always tried to do something. And that's one of the things, like where I live now, wherever I've lived, I've always cleaned up the road. In front of my camp when I was cowboying, it was clean. Both my houses now, the borrow pits are clean. There's no trash. But if there's trash, because I live in a 400-person town, if there's trash someplace on the side of the road...

I've stopped my truck, picked it all up and put it in the back of the truck and just, you know, take it to the dump or whatever. And you don't think of that. You don't think twice about that in a small town. You don't even think about that in a place like Dallas. When I was a kid, uh,

We seen a truck pulling out of one of our pasture leases where there's a creek and a nice area. People like to come down there and picnic and camp and fish. And Granddad got the license plate's number. And I said, what are you doing that for? Well, sure enough, we ride down there and they left their garbage there.

So granddad says, "Yep, I got their license number." So we ride back to the house and he calls his highway patrolman buddy and gets the address of this truck. We go back down and got some feed sacks, went back down, picked up all that garbage and we went to that guy's house. Granddad spreads it out on his lawn. He come out of the house pretty hot.

Granddad said, well, you just did this to my lawn, my place. This is your garbage. Granddad tried to lure him out in the street because he wasn't going to hit him on his own property. Granddad wanted to. And I think that man knew it. And he knew that he had a whooping coming. And, uh,

We didn't have much trouble with garbage after that. Somehow the word got around. It gets around. And you know, it's funny. When I was down on that ranch right on the Mexican border, I had taken about four days to fill up a storage tank for this one pasture. And I go out. I don't have any pressure in my tank. So I ride the line and I go up there with...

They had done, it was illegal to come across and then knock that spigot off that 10,000 gallon water tank to fill up their jugs and then let it drain. Oh my gosh. I'm mad. That's four days out of my life it takes to pump that full. You know, I got to go check the pump. Got to take gas back to the, you know, and so I rode home and I switched horses and I got every gun I had.

that I could carry on a horse, and I tracked them down. Well, they were laid up during the heat of the day, and I went, I'm too mad to speak Mexican, U.S.O.B.s. I'm tired of this. You guys leave my gates open. You just drained a 10,000-gallon tank, and this ain't the first time. I said, you're at my barn every night. When I turn the lights off at 10.30, the dogs will go off.

I'd find toilet paper, clothes, where they change clothes in my barn and stuff. They'd come up and fill their water jugs. So I was like, guys, I don't call anybody on you. I let you do your thing. Now, I want my gates closed and leave my waters alone. You're causing me work. We were well about 15 miles north of the border then.

So a couple days later I jumped some tracks going down, man, they left my gate and the heifers and the cows are gonna be mixed up. No, they had tried to close, they didn't get it closed right, but they put it back up. But they tried. Just in two days that had got around all over the border that hey, this vaquero, I mean I give them food, I give them water, whatever they need. And when you're that close to the border,

You have to get along because they can send somebody up there and snuff you and the person be back in Mexico before anybody even knows you're missing or gone and I know of cases where that's happened.

And so the border patrol, I tried to talk to them before when I first moved there. I was like, hey, why don't you guys drive through my yard when you're coming and going to work? Just drive. No, they wouldn't have nothing. They wouldn't help me. I had a truck stolen. I went to all the authorities and gave them the truck and told them. I had people seen it being driven down across the border. Nobody could find my truck.

I went to the feed store to my buddy, Keros, and I said, hey, call one of your buddies down there. There's a little town called San Carlos, and we found my truck. We can't carry guns or nothing into Mexico. Everybody in San Carlos around my truck had a gun or a knife and stuff on them. I didn't even dare open my mouth. I'm like, you know, what am I going to do? They're still driving my truck in Mexico. Wow.

How much, are you still that close to the border? No, I live 60 miles south of Albuquerque now. I packed a gun. I slept with a gun. And that weighs on a man. And, you know, if all the Americans knew what went on down there at the border, I think they'd want a fence. They're starting to see it, though, in their own communities all across this country. Well, yeah.

But I seen the cartel, whenever you found luggage, it was always a woman's luggage because a cartel would steal them and take them. The women, most women in them groups would be wearing ball caps and pants and trying to look as much like a man as they could because they're spotters, they're scouts watching everything that goes on down there on that border.

I had a border patrol guy, I'm following tracks and they're on their four wheelers and stuff. Automatic weapons, you know, they're decked out. I got my six shooter and my rifle and I'm following cows. Don't go down there. Don't go down there. I'm like, I got to go after these cows. And they're like, no, no, don't. And we're like two miles from the border. Don't go down there. They've got guns.

say hey you guys aren't you the border patrol aren't you supposed to be patrolling that they're like yeah we can't get in a confrontation with them like well i'm going after my cows and sure enough there was guys in camouflage with automatic weapons and stuff and i just hey don't ask me and i rode on through picked up my cows what does that mean i don't speak spanish

What did you just say? Oh, where are my cows, amigo, friend? I had one case where I was following tracks and they go under the, go through the, under the fence. And I'm like, how does this work? And I reach and grab the steel post. They had cut the steel posts off at the ground level. And it was in a gully or a gulch like that. And sure enough, laying over there, a six foot stick,

You prop that stick underneath them where them poles were cut, my cows could walk right through the fence. So I'm gonna go down and get my cows. I don't even get to the gate. Just a range gate like every ranch has into Mexico. In fact, I'd been into Mexico more times through range gates like that than I have legally across the border. Boom.

I don't get the gate open and they're on me. They're not going to let me into Mexico. The Federales. Federales. Wow. So the next day I went back with my dogs and I brought me a little herd of cows on the U.S. side and held them up and I propped the fence up and sent my dogs down there into Mexico because I could see my cows and

They sent them dogs down there and they went and brought them cows up to the other herd. And them federalities had their guns on my dogs. They were liking it. That's amazing. I hollered and let them know, hey, I'm getting my cows back. And I got my cows back. There was three cows with a tight bag, meaning full. They hadn't been nursed.

And them other calves, the grass, fat milk, fat calf, I mean, they were eating them, you know. And can't blame them, really, but that's the kind of things that go on down there on the Mexican border that people don't know about.

And them cartels would fight. You'd hear them gun battles. And I asked the guy, what they fighting over? They're stealing them women out of the groups. Where you're at, the borderline of one cartel and another. And they're fighting over that borderline. I've had one friend, I've seen him having gun battles like the Rat Pack.

shooting at each other out of the back of trucks and stuff on the American side. I come home one day, well, I'd moved from this camp, but I still taking care of it for a guy. I come riding up there, check on things. There's a truck backed up to the well house. I'm loading bundles of pot into my well house. Wow. What do you do?

I mean, these guys are packing guns. They're real deal. What did you do? I wrote up mass of what was going on and stuff, and they had the wrong address. They had the wrong place. But I got a well house full of pot, and this didn't all get figured out until later. And, you know, I'm sitting there with my gun. They're sitting there with their gun. And it's hard to speak Mexican when—

The adrenaline's running. Yeah, yeah, I bet. And so we're having a tough time communicating. But they got in their truck and left. And now here I am. So I went to town to a guy I knew that was involved with all this stuff. And he got it taken care of for me. And see, that's another thing people don't realize is how much is run down there by the cartels and the drug company. Right.

This would have been in the 90s, like 93, 94. I'm at a team roping in Benson. And this guy comes riding up to me, old rancher. And he says, hey, will you rope with me? And I said, sure, I'll rope with you. I go, what's the deal? He said, well, I just got out of prison and everybody's kind of hanging back from me. I said, oh, yeah, what's that for? He says, well, they were smuggling pot out of my place. And he says, you can't say nothing or I wouldn't have a place when I come back.

I said, "Well, how'd that work?" What they were doing was they were putting pot down in the bottom of the stock, the cattle trucks, and then putting plywood over the top of them, and then loading the cattle in on top of the plywood. Wow. And, you know, so you got a double load, and every once in a while they have to turn somebody in. One of the first ranches I was dating a lady, a girl down there, Kelly Glenn,

They took me to a pastor and he says, now when you're checking that South fence, there's going to be bundles, piles of pot. He said, just ride on by them. Like they aren't even there. Just another pile of rocks. Cause there's somebody watching and making sure the right people pick that pile up. Yeah. And that was in 87. Now it's out of control. They're just coming across with whatever they want. And this is something that the, you know,

The public don't understand and I got this from a special ops guy. There's more fentanyl coming across the border than the drug users can use. I said, well, that's, you know what? That's one of my theories is that they're just going to poison the water supply. He says, yeah, five gallon bucket of fentanyl into 10,000 gallons of water will kill everybody that touches that water to their lips.

I've got a reverse osmosis, thank you Patricia, water filter. I've got my own wells, both properties, all my properties have their own wells, so I'm not having to worry about the community water.

I don't think people understand what's here. I mean, China is in Mexico making the drugs for the cartels to come into here. And we don't know who has that. We have no idea. The last two bunches of illegals jumped on that ranch. The last bunch were just as white as you and I are. And I'm a half-breed. And the other group before them...

They were dressed as Mexicans, but they were not. They were dark complected, but you know, I know. Americans? They're Middle Eastern. Middle Eastern. Mm-hmm. Some of them had the dot and everything, but they had ball caps and the Mexican clothes on. Now, why are they coming? Why couldn't they come in legally? What are they doing that they couldn't come in legally? And then I've heard about just yesterday,

where Muslims are moving in and taking over apartment complexes. Well, we have Chinese taking over in Maine. They're running the drugs out of Maine now. And all of the money is going back to communist China. I mean, it's not good. My manager, he says, well, is this company okay? I says, where's the money go?

What do you mean? I says, like Budweiser, the money don't stay here in America. It goes to Holland. You know, it's not an American company anymore. The money goes to Holland. That's what I mean. I says, if a company is American based and the money stays here in America, I will endorse it. I was working on Young Riders, the TV show. You've got

United Artists got bought up by the Chinese and we stopped at the local, there's a little bar out there at Mezcal by the set. We stopped to have a beer. This one guy, he, one of the grips, he's just work, oh my God, I'm working for the Chinese. He goes on and on and on about how he's working for a foreign company now, you know. We go out to his car. What's he get in but a Datsun.

I grabbed a hold of him, I says, you financed this. Everybody that drives a foreign car is financing them foreign people to come over here and buy stuff from Americans. And yeah, Americans, it might cost a little more. Like I had a sunglass company want to endorse me. I'm like, if they're made in America. Well, that got kiboshed because it costs too much to make them in America. And so...

Yeah, but the best things, the good things usually do cost more or harder to get, right? It's gotten to the point to where we're suicidal on some of this stuff. We don't make our own drugs here. We don't make our own antibiotics here. What are we thinking? We've just thought, oh, we can be a global economy and there's nothing wrong with having trade, etc.,

But not when you don't have your own steel. Not when you don't have, you know, look at what's happening to Boeing. You put Boeing out of business. How do we maintain? If, God forbid, we had to go to war, we can't make airplanes? You know what I mean? It's insane. It's insane. I think the administration that's in now would just let us go. I'm really scared of what's

going to happen during the election, after the election, I should say. There's a, you know, I get around the country a lot more than I used to. And I'm meeting a lot of people and I talk to them about voting and they're like, "I ain't voting anymore, I'm just buying more bullets." You gotta vote. Yeah, you gotta vote. I just did a deal at the college in Socorro on Monday

to registering kids to vote and tell them you sign up any way you want. You're here going to vote. But eight out of 10 of them were red. So it's kind of, I mean, starting to wake up. And people, you know, especially Texas. I mean, I lived here in the eighties and they, you know, Texas secede and about half of them are serious. And so there's a lot of talk all around the country about, you know,

who's just break away or have a civil war are you out of your mind you don't have any idea you don't want that no i mean if it comes to that it comes to but don't root for that i buy more bullets did you vote yeah because you don't want a civil a civil war no and and excuse me

That's what China and Russia wants. They want us divided, and then they're going to come in here and take over. They're already here. And, you know, these initiatives that they've got in 27 of our states taking parents away.

consent away in the schools and this transgender stuff and stuff. It's not about transgender. It's about confusing our children, taking the patriotism out of them. And then, like Marx said and Hitler said, we control the children, we control the future. Well, here we are. And I always missed the point there.

well the the you know when you're talking about the doing this to the children you're not only confusing them oh you you are you're also destroying the ability for them to if if you give them the hormone drugs they can't have children you've broken the family apart you've broken the difference between male and you've just broken us

And the only two countries that they aren't pushing these in schools and everything, of course, they're already pretty much brainwashed, is China and Russia. And yet they're one of the bigger financing sources for all of this nonsense. Yeah, exactly. Let me just go back to Yellowstone for a second. Are we going to like the ending? Do you know the ending? No.

That's a good question because I just posted the other day that, hey, don't ask me because I don't know. They blacked the scripts out except for what we needed to know. And I'm not real sure how anything happens. In fact, there was one day they gave me my dialogue the day before. Really? The scene was blacked out and it was good.

one of Taylor Sheridan's classic lines too. I hope I did it. I'm pretty sure it came out right. So you are, you're hitting a resurgence, right? A late bloom, is that what you're saying? No, no, no. I mean, you are, Taylor put something together and everyone who's involved with it is now bigger than Taylor.

You know, they had been. Maybe Costner is an example. I don't think so. He's probably bigger, too, because of it. You didn't start out as that person. And I don't, it's rare to meet somebody from, and I don't mean it this way, because you're not from Hollywood. I don't know many people who are in the business of,

that are willing to say the things that you do yeah oh well that might not be in the business but you don't seem to care i mean when covid happened i think it was the sag awards you were like i can't go because i'm not getting a vaccine and i don't want to make this political i don't you know but i'm not going right that's i am who i am before after and you know during um

Is that age or is that the cowboy or what, what is that that gives you that? It's probably the cowboy. Um, I had a pretty good life for an old crippled rodeo cowboy. I was doing really great when Taylor discovered me and, um, everything happens for a reason and for a purpose. And I've been warned to be careful about what I say here today. Um, and, uh,

About Yellowstone or just what you... I'm not sure what. I was just scared to... Almost, like, clarify that. Yeah. I was like, well, I think I know what he means. So it's been a beautiful ride, and they can't really hurt me now. I got my own land. I can...

My granddad told me that all you needed was 10 acres to survive. You can raise enough meat in the garden to survive on 10 acres. And I've been blessed with a lot more than that. And I can survive. I feel that I would be letting him and a lot of other people down if I didn't stand up.

And I think that's one of the things that's wrong with this country right now is that people don't stand up. We just keep getting along. And I understand that because that's what we do. We get along. We keep going and keep trucking on. But there's a time and it's came now. When you start messing with my children, you start messing with my animals. All right.

You've crossed the line now. And I just want to spread that feeling. Hey, we're Americans. And, you know, Glenn, our country was founded by people from all different religions, all different ethnicities. And they came over here and made this beautiful country. We make Yellowstone.

There's people from all levels, all shapes of life, and I love them all. I love you all. Thank you. And we come together and we make this beautiful, beautiful TV show. So I have faith that we can come together and fix this country together.

Like I said earlier, it isn't the first time we've been here. I mean, they were killing kids on campuses and stuff, you know. So, yeah, I think that's when Merle Haggard's Walking on the Fighting Side of Me song came out was about then. So we can fix it. The election process has me a little worried. And when the Republicans...

Call me and want money and stuff. That's what I tell them. When you fix the election system, when we know that our vote counts, I mean, my son's one of them. He's like, I ain't voting anymore. It doesn't matter. I mean, we go to bed, the right side's winning, and we wake up and the wrong side won. This time, I mean, this might be it. This just might be it. I'm hoping. No, but I mean...

If it, one way or another, this might be the end of the America that we know if people don't get out and vote. And, you know, I've never had a problem with elections. Never had a problem with elections.

i i can handle losing as long as it's a fair fight and you know that's the way the american people went the problem comes in when you're like wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute no you know this is all rigged that's the problem yes sir and why we live in a country like we do and we can't sec we could send billions of dollars all around the world in seconds and not a penny is missing

but we can't secure the vote, that's amazing. Yeah. And I was at a ria dosa for the All-American. I led the post parade for the All-American. And a post lady come up to me and she's like, you know, I'm so proud of you and how you stand up and what you're doing. And she says, I wanted you to know.

I delivered 15 mail-in ballots to a house that I know only a couple live in. Boom, there you go. Another guy stepped up and says, hey, I deliver mail too. And I have the same thing. Only one person lived there. And I've delivered 12 mail-in ballots to that house. Lincoln County's good about it. But a lot of counties, and somebody dies there.

If you don't go in and take them off the rolls, they're still voting. That's where we're having our problem. Well, some states have done a pretty decent job on clearing some of that out. Florida's trying. Georgia's trying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look ahead. Is America America in five years? Can we turn this? And I'm not just talking about politically. I mean,

That sense of adventure, that sense of, come on guys, we can do this. The sense of e pluribus unum. We all might come from different places, but we believe in the Bill of Rights. We believe I have a right, you have a right. Now let's move on. We can argue about taxes all day long, but we have these things in common. Do we? Where are we in five years? I hope that we're back. Excuse me, but I don't see it.

Really? The children are so brainwashed. You know, I do, I maybe take that back. A lot of the younger people I've been around lately have really kind of inspired me that maybe there is hope. Yeah. We lost two generations, but this next one is the rebellion of those last two. Yeah. Seems to be.

but rebellion might not be what we really need right now well i mean but they're in they're more spiritual if they do it in the right way i guess yeah yeah yeah um i'm more of the i've never been i'm more tactful now than i've ever been in my life i was always strike first and ask questions later you know i i i fight not before anything else um

But I can see the error of my ways in the past and you know that's one of the things right there is we have to look at our past and see where we've messed up. We can't erase it. Democrats, Confederates were Democrats. Who's taken on all the Confederate statues and stuff? And why were those statues put up? I don't think most people understand.

That was to try to heal the wounds saying we won, but you had heroes too. You know what I mean? That's why those things were built as a reconciliation, a reach across saying, let's, let's have reconciling here. We are not going to try to erase your heroes.

But we won, and this is who we are now. Yeah. And now we're destroying it. We're destroying not only that reconciliation, the evidence of that reconciliation, but also we're erasing any reminder that that happened. You know what I mean? It's horrible. Robert E. Lee was a great man. He was a good man and a great leader. And yeah, they...

And this is where we're at. I'm in New Orleans. I can't remember what it was for, but I always didn't want to go in restaurant and all the pictures and everything. My handler, we got a driver and he's taking me down to get a sack of tacos. So he goes in and gets me a sack of tacos and I'm sitting out there talking to the driver and he's telling me about him tearing these statues and stuff down and how it pissed him off.

And I'm like, well, man, why'd you let it happen? You know, I told him about the water fountain in Hill Park in Helena, Montana, where I was raised. We used to go drink beer under there. Hey, I'll meet you at the fountain at Hill Park. We didn't know the Daughters of the Confederacy had donated that water fountain. Well, it's gone now.

and he was like I know it's just BS and he's all with me until my handler comes back and gets in the car and he oh I got to be politically correct I grabbed ahold of him I started shaking that's why our country's screwed up is because nobody will say anything everybody thinks you have to be politically correct I says why aren't we politically correct by wanting to keep that

i says that i feel i'm politically correct by wanting to honor a great a good man yeah maybe he's on the wrong side but he he didn't do anything dishonorable no lee was lee was a straight up yeah man yeah he was yeah i've studied him yeah uh i'm interested to see

- Where you go next? You're doing a movie now, aren't you? - Oh, I got a Christmas movie, One Little Angel that I bought me and my wife

Tomas Sanchez bought from Joel Kaufman, an award-winning writer, and we're fixing to do that. Out for next, not this coming, but the next one. Hopefully we can get it done this winter until it'll be out in 2025. We've got a theme song already written for it. Me and Michaela Lane have written a song called One Little Angel. What's the story? It's about a little girl that loses her mother that's a barrel racer.

and she has this, uh, champion barrel horse. And I just say, I mean, this might be very offensive to some, but I don't really care. Uh, there is nothing more beautiful than a woman that is barrel racing or the women that come out with the flags on the horses. My gosh, that's beautiful. Just beautiful. Yeah, it is. And, uh,

She has a colt out of this award-winning horse that her mother had before she died. She died of cancer, and it devastates her dad, and they end up losing the farm and everything. One little angel. You just need one little angel. And by the end of the movie, she figures it out that there are angels all around us all the time.

And, uh, you know, I, I have people tell me they don't believe in God and I, I, I, it flabbergasts me, especially when you're illegitimate, uh, half breed come up like I did. I mean, uh, I'm, I'm not eight out of 10 kids statistically are either locked up or dead. They come up like I did. And, uh,

if that ain't somebody working for me. And I feel like I have my grandpa and grandma with me a lot. You've talked about them a lot. Yeah. Well, my grandmother changed my life. I think I was in second grade, and I got in a fight at school. Somebody's calling me, got to eat or something. And I came home, and she says, you know, when you quit that job,

letting them bother you with that kind of stuff, they'll quit doing it. You know, don't let it bother you. And it's no fun for anybody. And I said, yeah, you're right. And she says, and you know, your granddad can fight. And I've seen you fighting with your cousins. You can fight. But I don't ever want you fighting unless you're in the right. And if you always...

are in the right when you do fight, you'll win. No matter the odds. Because the other guy will know he's wrong. And I said, why are you telling me? She says, you've got a good heart, Fori. And you'll always have that good heart. I said, how do you know that, Grandma? She goes, because puppy dogs and babies love you.

You have a good heart. And there's times when I was in juvenile delinquent days and stuff that that might have saved me from going to the dark side. I remember my grandma told me I had a good heart. And so I've, like my son, I've, you've got a good heart. You can screw up and be what a jerk you want to be, but I know you have a good heart. And he does. He's probably maybe better than mine.

But yeah, that one line might have saved me from a lot of different, like I said, going to the dark side and being locked up or dead by now. You're fascinating. I'm so glad we had this conversation. Well, thank you, Glenn. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm honored to be here, man. Thank you. God bless you and thank you for what you're doing for America. Thank you. You're welcome.

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