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Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. So Donald Trump working at McDonald's, which we have revealed, Pat Gray joins us now, was just, and I hate to break it to you, according to the left, just a, quote, publicity stunt. Scam. What? He did not actually work at the McDonald's.

I didn't believe it either. I didn't believe it either, Pat. Are you saying he didn't go through the regular interview process with a manager? No. That's what we're saying. No, you're not. Seriously? I didn't buy it either initially. What about his next shift? When is that? He doesn't have one. He doesn't even have one. He doesn't have another shift scheduled. No. What about like this weekend? No. Like a late night thing? No. No.

No, and he started right at the top. Special favors. He started right at the top, Pat, at the drive-thru. That's something you have to work a long time for. You'll just step out there to the drive-thru on day one. They just gave it to him on a silver platter. And they've also exposed the drivers in the car. They were all checked. They were all...

Not by Secret Service, I hope. And selected by the campaign. Oh, no. Yes. They weren't just normal customers going up there at that time. That's what I thought. I thought this was a very popular McDonald's because I saw the crowd. Thousands of people lined up. I thought, wow, this is, I mean, it's popular in this part of Pennsylvania. But no. No. No. Slice, Pat. Slice.

Oh, how do you believe a word? Amen, brother. Not one word. Amen. Wow. Amen. Well, I don't know. Kamala Harris, when she said to that person who said Jesus is Lord, you're in the wrong. You're in the wrong rally. I believe that.

Yeah, I do. That was true. I believe that. What I didn't believe was when she said you should be at the smaller one down the road because that one was three and a half times as large as hers. Yeah. So I didn't. So right. It's you know, it's bad. It's bad. It is bad. Bad. It is bad. So have you noticed that Donald Trump is like channeling Ronald Reagan right now? Yes. Yes.

He's very optimistic. He's very different. Yeah. He has been. The shooting thing changed him. Yeah, I think it did. It did. How could it not? Yeah, true. Really, you take a bullet on stage, you have that moment where you stand up and you say, fight, fight, fight, and everything that went along with that, how could you not change? At least at some level. Well, I don't know if I told this on the air, but I was with him last weekend or weekend before last, whatever. And...

I was watching him thinking how much he has changed. And, you know, you don't go through that without some introspection, you know, without going, you know, am I willing to die for this? Yeah. And I really feel he is serving something bigger. And I think it's the American people. I think it's you, you know, as he gets up every day and he is,

he's the what he's serving that's bigger than him is you yeah and i i don't know that he's a super before this that he was a super religious guy i will tell you but i think he's more so now yeah i i will tell you i've heard him talk about god in ways that's you know not uh you know not what is it uh

Two Peters? No, yeah. Two Corinthians. Two Corinthians walking into a bar. Did he give a religious speech about how much he hates Christmas? No, he didn't. Can we play that again? You've got to remember, it's not Donald Trump that said that. And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other Merry Christmas, these children are not going to have a Merry Christmas. Mm-hmm.

How dare we speak Merry Christmas? Yeah! How dare we? Yes! I'm going to the polls right now for Kamala. Right on post-op. Because she's pissed off about Christmas. She despises it. That's not all. That's not all. Cut 12, please. Should never again have the privilege of standing behind the seal! How do they think that's going to work? Never again! It's remarkable. Never again! Never!

What was that quote that Hillary said? I am tired of telling people that I'm tired. What difference does it make? No, she said, I'm sick and tired of people saying... Saying you're not patriotic if you question your government. Which is hilarious these days. We have the same party who's like, oh, how dare...

It's not anti-American to question a war. Gee, what happened to that whole philosophy on the left? That's changed quite a bit. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, it's like, you just think they would, she would have that one moment where she went off the cuff. It was like, you can't stand, she would never stand behind the sail. That would happen one time and everyone would go to her and go, Kamala, Kamala.

Good God, never again. Whatever you do, don't hit that note, whatever that note is. Don't do it. No, that's the strategy now, though. Yeah. She really kind of... That wasn't a one-off? No. No. No. You're kidding me? She didn't just say that once. I guess. Yeah. Same hand gestures each time.

It's unbelievable. Who would want that? Wow. Reverse course if you're the campaign. No, no, no. For me, for my purposes, continue to do exactly that. But if you're in that campaign, aren't you like...

Kamala, literally anything else. I'd rather have her cackle for 20 minutes on stage. She did the Brett Baer interview with that attitude the whole time. Yep. The whole time. This is, again, I think a strategy change. You know, the whole attitude of I'm speaking now, I'm speaking now is so annoying. Sarah, is it just guys that feel that way?

I can't stand her voice. She's worse than Hillary for me. Yeah. Okay. I think that's very common. Yeah. I think that is very common. Especially like there's something about her trying to yell forcefully that is so irritating. But real. Yeah.

But real. I think that's her. I think it is, too. I think it's much closer to her than the joy. Like, I'm going on Oprah, and here's your car. Yeah, what happened to the joy? The joy didn't last very long, did it? Is it dead? Because the people who are currently institutionalized that worked in her office for a year, they left, and they're rocking back and forth going, is that Kamala? Is she coming? She's coming around the corner. She's coming around the corner. Ah!

And isn't it like dozens of people that quit her employee? Oh, yeah. Everybody but two. Because she was so hard to work with. Everyone but two. Yeah. And that was okay to talk about before she had the nomination. Yeah. Now those people have been snuffed out. Now the mainstream media won't even discuss their own articles that they printed about it. Did you hear that Donald Trump said he's going to release the names in the Epstein diary? I did hear him say something about that. You think he'll do it? How does he have it?

Well, he doesn't, but the government does. Oh, okay. Yeah. The FBI has it. So it's in safe hands. Yeah. You don't seem to believe that. No. Wouldn't it be terrible if there was a fire in that room right before Trump took over? No way. No, we lost it. Dang it. January 18th or 19th. Oh, darn. You know? Burned up. Wow, that would be... Jeez. That would be awful. Yeah. That would be a real sad moment. I think he'll do it. I think he'll do it. Don't you? I mean, I think the guy is like...

This is so far gone, it's got to be burned down. You've got to take all the bad guys, burn it out. So you think he will release the Epstein names? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he talked about trying to release some of the JFK stuff and got blocked on some of it. Well, he blocked it. He blocked it. He did. Yeah. There were like a couple of big things that he left in or kept in the vault. Okay. And he said, if you would have seen them, you would have done the same thing.

I don't think so. But now, not only do you have the Epstein files, you've got the Diddy files too that may be pretty telling and pretty incriminating for a lot of people. Oh. Yeah. I think definitely. Oh.

Maybe they got some information on some people who weren't at first, Usher, saying anything about who they support for president. And now all of a sudden, now all of a sudden they're all over the Kamala Harris campaign. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, he was asked, I think on The View, or was he asked about, and he didn't want to say. And he just, he just...

Said, yeah, I'm not disclosing that. Well, now he's come out and endorsed her at a rally. What are you implying? I'm implying that he's on the ditty list.

Yeah, that would be the implication there. Apparently, I talked to somebody over the weekend. But I don't know that for a fact. Right. No, you don't know. You're guesstimating. I don't know much about the Diddy Parties either. The only thing I know about them is there ain't no party like a Diddy Party. And I learned that from, of course, LeBron James, who said that exact thing. There ain't no party like a Diddy Party.

quote, LeBron James. Just wanted to point that out in case anyone was concerned about where LeBron stood on the issue. Well, at least he wasn't lying. Because it doesn't seem like there's a lot of parties like that. Maybe there are, though. Maybe that's part of our problem. There are too many parties like Diddy parties. So I'm out of time, and I want to play some of these a little later on in the program. But let me just play one thing. Here's Elon Musk saying,

over the weekend doing rallies himself and taking questions from the audience. The most awkward guy ever. You know, he's, you know, Asperger's. And so he's taking questions from the audience and he's asked about...

you know, voting in California. Listen to this. Cut eight. A friend of mine went to vote in Palo Alto in California because he was like, is this real or not? And he like tried to show his ID and it was like presenting a cross to a vampire. Like, they're like, no, no, put the ID away. You know, like they literally, they weren't allowed to look at his ID even if he wanted to show it to them.

That is the extent of the madness. This is a real thing in California right now. And if the Dems win nationally, they'll do it nationwide. Obviously, that's what's going to happen. And there will be no democracy.

It's amazing how clear-eyed some people are. And now he is, I mean, he's, as he said this weekend, in fact, where is that? Here, cut six. Listen to this. Hopefully I don't get shot. I was just on the cover of some big, like, I think it's the biggest magazine in Germany called Der Spiegel. I was just like their Time magazine or something saying that I'm enemy number two. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like enemy number two of what? Democracy? I mean, I'm pro-democracy. All I'm literally trying to do is uphold the Constitution and ensure we have a fair and free and fair election. I'm definitely upgrading my security. You know, it's like, so, I guess I better cancel that open cop parade. Just kidding. All right. Thank you, Pat, for stopping by. Thank you.

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Senator Mike Lee, how are you, sir? John, great. It's good to be with you. Thank you. You know what? I saw Jeff Flake's tweet and then your epic response to it over the weekend. And I just, if I may, I just want to quote it here. Let me just pull it up on X. It was so great. He, come on, open.

Okay, he writes, I'm voting for Kamala Harris, not in spite of being conservative, but because I am a conservative. Conservatives believe in the rule of law. Wow, that just that says a lot.

Um, it does, it does. And I've known Jeff for a long time and he's a friend. I, but I, I, I could not disagree more with this assertion. But if you don't want to vote for Donald Trump, uh, it's your right to vote for whomever you want, but for somebody to actually vote for Kamala Harris and to say that they must vote for Kamala Harris because they're a conservative. I mean,

We don't know how one justifies that. Now, maybe what I've written will invite a response, but I identified a number of things that Kamala Harris wants to do, like entirely gut the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Okay, hang on just a second. Hang on. Say that again and explain it, because I think people will roll their eyes when you say, oh, she wants to gut the First Amendment and all the religious freedom. They'll roll their eyes because they don't know.

Right. All right. So as a senator, she spent four years in the Senate. She and I were colleagues in the Senate. She was there for four years, one of her top legislative priorities as a U.S. senator.

focused on a bill called the Do No Harm Act. Google it if you're curious. The Do No Harm Act, ironically named, like so many other democratic showpieces, because it would do immense harm. What the Do No Harm Act would do is essentially say that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act does not apply, cannot offer any protection to the free exercise of religion. If somebody...

experiences what they call dignitary harm. If they experience harm, including dignitary harm, meaning you have insulted my dignity as a person by doing X, Y, or Z. So let's say if you go to a, I don't know, like a religious hospital, for example,

and you want a late abortion or you want a sex change operation or something like that and that religious hospital says sorry it conflicts with our regular religious beliefs and policies to perform that procedure uh we're not going to do it and then that person sued to try to enforce them this seems to be a favorite trick of the left the religious free and restoration act would do you no good there and would disappear because kamala would have neutered it

Look, there is very little left of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act if her bill passes. So if you, let's say, let's say you are a church, you don't, you know, you have only male priests and you don't marry gay people. Would you be forced to marry gay people? And would you be forced to have female priests?

Okay, this is a good question. I'm glad you're raising this because the left loves to point to this. They love to point to Barack Obama's promise when Obergefell was decided, look, I'm not going to force any of your clergy to perform gay weddings they don't want to perform. They love to say we're not going to do that. We couldn't get away with that anyway. Well, look, maybe that's true. That's usually not where they're going to go anyway. They're actually going to go in the direction of

religious institutions and religious individuals for not complying with what it is that they want. So it might not be a court order saying you clergyman X, Y, or Z must perform this ordinance. It's more like, yeah, if you want the ability to participate in this government program, if you want to maintain your tax exempt status for that matter, you cannot do certain things that we regard as discriminatory.

Therefore, comply or be punished. That's that's usually how it manifests itself. And Kamala Harris would be just fine with that. How do we know that? Well, because she wrote a bill that would do that. OK, so you start with Jeff Flake and say Kamala wants to gut the religious freedom. You got your religious freedom. That's not conservative, nor is it OK.

Then you go on. Yeah, I go on. So she likes price controls. That's not conservative. That's what Marxists do. Price controls don't work. Price controls buy into the Marxist theory of economics, which doesn't work. And it's certainly not conservative. I can point out that she's got an unhealthy preoccupation with abortion. Not conservative. She wants to imprison her political enemies as she's been just fine with this lawfare campaign against Trump. Not conservative.

She's been hiding Biden's dementia for nearly four years. Not conservative. Wants to raise taxes. Not conservative. She's all about the Green New Deal. She was its principal advocate in the Senate. Green New Deal. Not conservative. She wants to pack the Supreme Court.

Same description. She tells Christians at her rallies, you're at the wrong rally. That's not conservative. I go on. There are about 20 of these. I point out I cannot identify a single thing that she does that can be reconciled with conservatism, much less compel a conservative to vote for. I just want to go on. Kamala wants to shut down X for not suppressing conservative content. Kamala let in 10 million illegal aliens.

also let in enough fentanyl to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans while enriching international drug cartel to the tunes of tens of billions of dollars a year. Kamala thinks it's a good idea to use taxpayer money to pay for sex change operations for prisoners.

Kamala believes it's OK for elected federal bureaucrats to make 100000 pages of new law every year. Kamala wants to tax unrealized capital gains. Kamala wants to ban fracking. Kamala wants to give free health care to illegal aliens. She wants to force women to compete against biological men in sports rather than a tortured reading of Title nine.

Kamala actively encourages lawless violent protests in 2020, pledging to give money to rioters to pay for their bail. Kamala said she wants to decriminalize immigration offenses.

Kamala believes there should be no restriction on abortion up until the moment of birth. Kamala backed tyrannical policies punishing Americans for not getting the COVID vaccine, even if they had legitimate medical or religious reasons to avoid it. I can't identify a single conservative reason to vote for Kamala Harris, not even one. I have to tell you, you look at that list. I mean, Mike, how does somebody...

How does a religious person not just see the Democratic Convention and the free abortion vans that they had parked outside and say, oh, no, this is cool to attend this. I mean, you'd never go to a concert if they had free abortion vans out. You would go. This is kind of evil.

Would you? No, heavens no. She was treating, the Democratic Party was treating abortion as if it were a sacrament. As if that were just some holy rite that they had to participate in. They had to make it available that week, of course. Look, you don't do that. And you certainly don't vote for that candidate and call it conservative. So, look, I implore all within the sound of my voice,

If you've got issues with Trump, I understand that. But for heaven's sakes, look at what we're looking at the other end of this. Look at Kamala Harris and do not tell me that your conservatism compels you to vote for Kamala Harris, because on no planet can that be true. It just isn't. Mike, let me switch topics.

Who do we really need to pay attention to in the Senate races? Who are the ones that you're like, I got to have them? Please, please vote for this person.

Well, look, obviously, let's start with a couple of comments. Ted Cruz and Rick Scott are both up for reelection this year. They're both in tight races in Texas and in Florida. Is Rick getting any help from Turtle Face?

Well, if you're asking whether he's getting any help from the Mitch McConnell run Senate Leadership Fund, last I heard, he was not and neither was Ted. And neither did I when I was in a tight race in 2022 beyond some advice. But I didn't get it done. And my understanding is that neither Ted nor Rick have either. Yeah, no, Ted hasn't for sure, but I haven't talked to Rick about it.

Yeah, yeah. Then let's move on to the other races involving potential pickups. So we've got a significant opportunity. Look, we're going to win West Virginia. Jim Justice will win there. I think we've got a decent shot at winning in Montana. Tim Sheehy is coming very close to Jon Tester, and I think he's got a really good shot at beating him.

Bernie Moreno in Ohio. I just got back from Ohio where I was campaigning with Bernie Moreno. He's doing really well, but he needs every little bit of a push that he possibly can. Those guys are in a very good position. And we've jumped down a tier of people who are not necessarily right on the verge of victory and could close the deal, but still could get there. You've got Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania, Eric Hubby in Wisconsin, Kerry Lake in Arizona.

and Sam Brown in Nevada. Those are probably the next most likely to win. I think we were in a good position. I think we could easily get the Senate majority. That would be a dream come true. The Nebraska thing, they're doing in Nebraska exactly what they tried to do to you.

Yes. Oh, thank you for reminding me of Nebraska. I neglected to mention Nebraska. So my friend and colleague, Deb Fisher, faces a challenger somewhat reminiscent of the guy who ran against me. She's facing a guy named Osborne who is running against Deb Fisher as an independent, but he's actually pushing forward.

leftist policies and getting away with a lot with just saying, well, I'm an independent, so I'm different than everybody else. Vote for me. He's got socialist. Show up and help dead fishers. He actually has socialist working for him. I mean, from democratic socialist, you know, uh, organizations, uh,

I mean, it's just nuts what these people are trying to get away with. And I don't know if you heard this, but Bernie Sanders over the weekend, Bernie Sanders came out and said, look, you know, Kamala flip-flopping on major issues. Her goal is just to defeat Trump. That's what she's doing. Wait, wait, what?

So he's admitting that she hasn't changed on anything. Are we that stupid, Mike?

Well, we're not, but they think we are. And that's yet another reason why no person who has any sympathies toward conservatism should ever vote for Kamala Harris. But they really are that transactionally minded. And you saw Jon Pester recently, the Democratic Senator from Montana was being interviewed and asked why he wasn't going to Kamala rallies. And he said, because I'm up for reelection. So

So it's just very transactionally minded, very open about saying, well, yeah, I can't act like the liberal that I am because I've got a

an election that I've got to face. So that's not that's not cool. Look, the Democrats do think we're dumb. They do think that they can rest on the fact that we've all been marinating in Marxist indoctrination for our entire lives because, well, we have this primary education, secondary education, higher education education.

news media and entertainment media have all been under the control of leftists for pretty much all of our lives. We've been taught the language of politics in the terminology used only by the left. Mike Lee, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Godspeed. Thank you very much. Good to talk to you. Good to talk to you. Mike Lee from the great state of Utah. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr. How are you, sir? I'm doing great. Good to be with you, Glenn. Yeah, great to have you on. So can you explain what the FCC's role is on something like CBS News and their quote-unquote license? Because I don't believe they have one.

Yeah, that's generally right. I mean, one of the things that we've seen recently, as you noted, is there was a complaint filed at the FCC regarding CBS's coverage. It was a complaint filed under something called the news distortion rule. And this is a rule that's on the books. It's

We've done the books for over 50 years. But it's really something that in, you know, one case out of a million, is there any legitimacy to a claim? Most of the time we get people that bring news distorsion complaints, but it's really about, you know, editorial decisions they disagree with, you know, First Amendment protected positions of journalists. You know, the mind run of cases are just complaints about people not liking the news and they're sort of dismissed out of hand.

Where it's a little bit different sometimes is when you bring forward some extrinsic evidence that an outlet intentionally did something that was just really inaccurate. So for instance, there's been cases where actually a news program put explosives on a car and made it explode and claimed that it was a problem with the car. But there's also been other cases, for instance, where... So again, we're talking about stuff that's like...

pretty far out there because we don't want to get into like authenticating news or becoming a ministry of truth. But the doctrine does have some application. Another case was where an outlet took an answer that someone gave as yes to a question and they replaced it with them saying no to a different question. So we're talking about really high bar, really egregious stuff that requires evidence. In this particular case, I don't think this should be a federal case. I think, you know, Catherine Harris used to work at CBS and

said that in her view, it just makes journalistic sense to release the full transcript. And I agree with Catherine Harrods. There's plenty of precedent for CBS to do that. In fact, Catherine Harrods did a, I believe a Trump interview back in 2020

And they ended up releasing the full unedited transcript. And so in my view, you know, that's the best way forward here. Release a transcript and there's no reason to even have this before the FCC at that point. So I agree with you. There's no federal case here. That's why I suggested to the audience that they write their local CBS affiliate and say,

You know, you're doing a great disservice to our local community when we can't trust the news you're getting from CBS. Can you please call CBS News and ask them so our local community here knows what's true and what's not, what to believe or not to believe?

I suggested going to the local affiliates to put pressure on them to put pressure on because you do have I mean, they have inspections for their license.

Yeah, that's actually part of the news distortion policy is we say, look, as a first step, as an initial matter, we encourage people that have a dispute with a broadcast to go to the actual broadcaster, the licensee, and see if they can sort of get the concerns addressed without the federal government getting involved. Again, as this particular complaint, I haven't reached...

view on the merits, but in terms of whether it's sort of frivolous on its face, I don't think anybody can reach that conclusion either. But again, that's why I just think the best way forward here is simply to release it. Now, maybe CBS has a position it violates our first-member rights to do that or whatever. They've done it several times before.

Right, right. And you have an exclusive interview with somebody who doesn't do interviews at that time, and you've got 40 minutes. I know they've done this before, too. See the entire interview at CBS.com.

You know what I mean? They've released the transcripts when asked, and they also release full interviews if they have to cut them down and it's a big interview. It doesn't make any even business sense why they wouldn't release the full interview.

Yeah, again, I go with, you know, Catherine Herridge, who worked at CBS. She put out a post, I think this morning, where she said, releasing the full unedited transcript is consistent with journalistic transparency, and it stands behind the integrity of the entire Kamala Harris edit, not just the clips under scrutiny. I think that's, you know, the best way forward. I think, you know, CBS should just release the transcript. Can I switch topics here with you? Elon Musk was on the campaign trail.

And he was talking about the loss of freedom of speech and, you know, the First Amendment going awry if the election goes, you know, towards Kamala Harris. Can you tell me, because I just, I could hear people's eyes roll when you say things like that, because people just don't think that could ever happen here. What are the dangers? And you don't, I don't want to ask you necessarily to pick a side, but what,

What are the actual dangers that you see on the horizon for freedom of speech?

Yeah, your point, putting aside this particular election, which I have to under the Hatch Act, I think you can look at the ghost of Christmas future in Europe and in Brazil. We just saw an instance where the Lula administration in Brazil is engaging in a full-scale crackdown on free speech. You had the government of Brazil sending secret orders to social media companies, including Facebook and X,

demanding that they censor the posts of their political opponents. We only know about this because X objected and Facebook did not. So think about this for a second. At the very moment that Mark Zuckerberg was writing a mea culpa letter to our Congress saying, we're so sorry that we secretly censored in the past, we're not going to do it. At that exact same moment, his company was knuckling under

in Brazil to secret orders to censor core political speech. So the idea that the first amendment is there and that's been enshrined forever is not something that you can take for granted because globally right now, again, whether it's Europe or Brazil, there is a strong movement towards censorship. Um, that doesn't necessarily, you know, stop short of our shores if we're not careful.

Uh, Brandon, I, uh, I thank you as always for everything you're doing. Um, it must be tough, uh, being in the minority and, and being a conservative that is more constitutional, at least that's the policies that I hear from you are the constitutional things. Just keep it fair, keep it balanced, keep it, you know, with the law and the constitution. And I, I thank you for your fight.

Yeah, thanks so much. Look forward and always, always glad to talk to you. But again, I mean, to this point of censorship, we're still seeing it right now where there's been a lot of attention recently on the fact that Vice President Harris has been leading this $42 billion campaign.

Internet infrastructure program for over a thousand days and hasn't connected even a single person. Well, there was a quote-unquote fact check run on that over the weekend, and as a result, Facebook is now censoring posts that simply point out that fact. I get that it's inconvenient, but it's a truthful post, and I think it's important that people hear the information that both Facebook and Harris officials don't want them to know right now. Yeah.

Thank you so much, Brendan. I appreciate it.