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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Today from Kansas City, going to the Chiefs game tonight for Monday Night Football.

I will tell you that I went to a church yesterday. It was a Methodist church. I had to look up what Methodists believe on the way. And I went for a specific reason to this church, but I don't want to say what it is because I don't want to identify this church because I don't know enough. I only went one time and I listened to the pastor and everybody there was very, very nice and the pastor was great, but he was talking about the election and he was trying to be

And that kind of failed. But, you know, he was trying to be neutral and he was saying, you know, both sides say that, you know, it's going to be the end of the republic. And then he went on, you know, in his very neutral way to say, in fact, there was a billionaire that spoke this weekend and he said it might be the last election. I see absolutely no evidence of that.

And I thought to myself, could I testify about that for a second here, Pastor? But no is the answer. I didn't raise my hand. The problem with that is you're not—

You're not engaging. There was another thing that my faith came out. Well, I can't say my faith. People of my faith came out. The Salt Lake Tribune found four Latter-day Saints that are urging members to vote against Trump for religious reasons.

Now, they've got four people that are very prominent. In fact, all four of them I've never heard of. Have you heard of Christine Durham or Brent Ward or Richard Lampert or...

James W. McConkie II? No. McConkie I, I'm all about, but II, I've never heard of him. I used to call him Jim. We were that close. Jimmy I. Hey, Jimmy I, welcome. Anyway, so I've never heard of them, but apparently they're local politicians. And everybody has a right to their own opinion. I just happen to disagree with them. They say that you have a responsibility...

as a Christian, as a member of the Latter-day Saints, that you have to oppose Donald Trump. That you must vote for Kamala Harris because...

Because of religious reasons. Really? Because, yeah, because they say we are commanded to find honest men and wise men and women. And we should observe them. They should observe to uphold those kinds of people.

and that we should forsake all evil and cleave unto good. And so that means we can't vote for Donald Trump. And I find this amazing, Stu, Pat. Me too. Yeah. Have they not seen the multiple lies that have come from Kamala Harris and Tim Walz? People always say, yeah, well, Donald Trump exaggerates too. He lies too.

Yeah. But that doesn't fit what they're saying. Even if that were true, it still doesn't fit what they're trying to sell. That dismisses both of them. Yeah. If a person, regardless of their ideology, fails the character test, then I think we have the affirmative responsibility to oppose that person. And the Lord gives us the reasons when the wicked rule, the people mourn. Well, you know, a lot of people are mourning right now, which is weird. But...

I have such a problem with this because if you're going to use scriptures, you have to look at all of them. Choose life would be one. Now, you could say, well, Donald Trump, he's really not standing up against abortion. Well, in comparison, yeah. In comparison, one is drenched in blood. No matter what they say, Tim Walz...

has a law in Minnesota that you can let the child die if they tried to abort in a partial birth abortion.

I mean, first of all, partial birth abortion. That means the woman is giving labor and they keep the baby in the birth canal and then stick something in the back of its head to scramble the brains and kill the child. Are you out of your mind? Just that. But if they survive, then you can just leave them off to the side and let them die quietly.

That's one side. The other side is like, well, I don't know if it's 12 weeks or 16 weeks, but I'm not going to decide. The states have to just based on that. How? How? You know, and shame on I shouldn't say this, in my opinion.

That's just an outside observer right now. This is hilarious. I love watching you both try to restrain yourself. Well, we just had a huge conference over the weekend. And let's see, who did they side with? Oh, that's right. Nobody. Because they never take a position politically.

They, you know, we're taught what we're taught. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We listen to the doctrine of the church and then we decide. They never, they never try to sway us. However, however, these are individuals. Yeah. That are, are members of the church. But they're speaking for the religion, which is, you shouldn't be trying to do that.

Right? Well, no. They're speaking their interpretation of the scriptures. And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you have a right. I believe we have a right to use scriptures and to talk about what God says. This was my problem yesterday. I walked out of that church and I said, honey, I have no problem

hearing a pastor's point of view if he's using scriptures, but you can't pick and choose the scriptures. You have to look at... When you're looking at, let's just say, two bad choices, I think you're looking at one disaster of a choice and one that you may not like because you don't like the guy's personality or whatever. But you're looking at two choices that neither one of them is pure as the driven snow.

So then you've got to go deeper into scriptures and say, okay, which one violates the scriptures that the whole thing is based on? And the whole thing is based on choose life. That's the most egregious out of every – if you're a Christian, that's the most egregious is killing children. How do you get past that?

How do you get past the fact that one side is saying, I mean, over the weekend, over and over and over again, you know, we've got to silence people. We have to, we have to, you know, freedom of speech isn't absolute. Yes, it is. It is absolute. As long as you're not inciting people to violence. And when I say that,

It has to be imminent, and your incitement has to result in imminent reaction. So if it's not imminent, according to the Supreme Court, you can say it.

OK, so, you know, I just I just have a problem with people. I think you're evil as well. If you want to take the rights away from people to be in charge of their own decisions and their own voice. Maybe it's just me.

I mean, though your criticism of this group is not their right to be able to speak their mind. No, not at all. That's not criticism at all. None of us would be saying that. What we're saying is when they speak their mind, they're wrong. That's kind of more of the criticism, right? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I think they're blind.

But I support their right to say it. I support their right to make it as a religious decision. But they're wrong. I just really think they're wrong. And I just I think the LDS community needs to know there's more. They found for the Salt Lake Tribune found for. And, you know, I could find, you know, Jeff Flake as well in that and Mitt Romney as well.

But I think those guys are wrong. And tomorrow, the Trump campaign is announcing something that has more than six people or four officially that are. Yeah, I will say, I mean, Mitt Romney, to my knowledge, at least at this point, hasn't even endorsed Kamala Harris. So he hasn't he hasn't even done that yet, which I would not be shocked is right around the corner. But even he hasn't done that yet. So.

There's really only five.

Until he disagreed with them. Now he's supposed to be the most evil. And Dick Cheney's supposed to be good. Yeah, he's a hero now. It's crazy. And I mean, the Liz Cheney thing, I would argue, is possibly even worse. Just because this is, you know, obviously people are resurfacing her tweets online.

from 2019 and 2020 where she called her, you know, radically liberal, said that she would defund the police, dismantle our freedom, destroy our history, abandon our founding values. Now, look, you can have a switch and say, hey, and by the way, we should also point out,

She voted for Donald Trump in 2020. Not like she was 2016 and she was turned off by his presidency. In 2020, the previous election, she voted for him.

She called Kamala Harris all these things. She said she was going to take your Second Amendment rights away. I mean, she was a passionate critic of this person. And like, look, you can have problems with the way Trump handled certain things. You could have major problems with them. You can maybe even come up with a reason to say, I'm just not going to vote for him. But to go there and passionately campaign and endorse Kamala Harris shows anything you've ever said means zero. Right.

You have absolutely no credibility. She just loves the attention she's getting from the mainstream media. Adores it. She loves it. She also says that she changed because of January 6th.

That's impossible if you look at the facts. I was pissed on January 6th. We all were pissed on January 6th. But when you look at the facts, which have now been unveiled because they were hidden by the January 6th committee, a committee she was a part of, Donald Trump said two days before that.

I think you should have 10,000 troops on the ground in Washington because this group is coming, they're going to be angry, and we ought to make sure everybody is safe, including them. So he made available 10,000 troops. It was the Democrats that said no. How do you blame him for that? Liz?

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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. The one, the only, the legend, Dennis Prager. Hi, Dennis. I have to say, I've been introduced for 40 years. That was the best. And I want you to know further, my wife would like your children now. Really? Good, because they're in their college years. You can have them. That's really sweet. Dennis,

Today is kind of a hard day, especially if you're Jewish. October 7th, a year ago, 365 days later, we still have hostages. God, I pray to God that they're, in some ways, that they're not alive. I can't imagine what they've gone through in the last year. But here we are. So...

What does it mean? What does it mean? I want to react to one part of what you said, the words, especially if you're Jewish. So this has been, I've never really verbalized this. It's been a thought in my mind all of my life. Because I have met non-Jews, and most of my time is spent with non-Jews. I have met non-Jews.

for whom the Holocaust is as powerful an evil as it is to a Jew, and probably more so than to many Jews. I'm not sure you're absolutely right, especially to Jews, but I don't think it's only Jews. There are people who understand Jews,

The grandiosity of the evil that we have, and I never used this term, I never thought I would use this term. We have Nazis today. Not what the left calls Nazi to anyone they differ with. Real Nazis. People who wish to exterminate the Jewish state and its Jews, and for that matter, all Jews. And that's been said by their leaders. Remember, the raison d'etre, this is an amazing thing. People don't get it.

And I understand because it's so beyond reason and beyond good and evil. It's beyond good. It's evil. The raison d'etre of the Iranian regime and Hezbollah and Hamas is to destroy Israel.

They have no desire to create anything, and they don't create anything. Hezbollah has made nothing. It's destroyed Lebanon. Hamas has made nothing except tunnels. Or they exist to kill Jews. And it sounds crazy, and maybe it is, but it's true.

I don't think it is crazy at all, especially if you know the history of Hamas and how that was started. And, you know, the – what was it? The guy who was the – I can't think of the name now. The head guy. Yeah, the – no, the –

Shoot, the imam of Jerusalem back during Hitler. Oh, oh, oh. Khaj Amin al-Husseini. Yeah. Who, I mean, that German...

hatred of the Jews. I mean, I think it was just just souped up right at the end of the war and planted deeply inside of Iran. I mean, it doesn't it makes sense to me that, of course, the next Holocaust would be coming from Iran because that's where it kind of went right after the war.

Well, Husseini was in Jerusalem. Right, right. And remember, the Shah was pro-Israel. I am old enough to remember an unbelievable thing now. I flew El Al Airlines from Tehran to Los Angeles. Yeah.

I mean, that's how close El Al flew into Tehran. I didn't mean that the Shah was. I mean that that evil was planted inside of the Islamic movement that now we are seeing from the revolutionaries. I mean, when they say they want to burn Israel in the Islamic fury...

They mean that. They mean that. Yeah. You know what? I have a rule in life that will help people understand what is happening. Those who do not fight evil...

Fight those who do fight evil. It's a very important rule of life. I learned it in high school when I saw all these people in the West, including the United States, who didn't hate communism. They hated anti-communists. So if you don't fight evil, it's an amazing thing. You do fight those who fight evil. And today's evil is...

is overwhelmingly coming from the radical Islamist world, which Israel is in the midst of, and the people who don't fight that fight Israel, which does fight that. So, you know, I've been saying for a long time, Dennis, that there are no sidelines. There's nobody in the stands on this one. You're on the field whether you know it or not.

If you're not fighting evil, you fight those who are fighting evil. Doesn't that, in the end, put you on the exact same side? That's correct. I mean, the choices... The judgment of history on those who don't fight evil... Look, my favorite verse in the Bible...

is those of you who love God must hate evil. It's a command. The Hebrew has a command form in the verb. If you don't hate evil, you don't love God. And it's the only thing that we are actually commanded to hate, isn't it? That's right. Well said. That's correct.

Yep, ohave Adonai sin ura, for those who need it from the Hebrew. There you have it. The translation is not at all ambiguous. How does a God of love teach to hate? That's what Christians would say. No, God is a God of love. Well, no, he's also a stern corrector. You know, I know I hate...

If you don't hate evil, what does your love mean? I often think that people have a view of love like an air conditioner. It blows cold air no matter what happens. But that's not the way it works. There is an opposite of love, and it exists. There's an opposite of good, and it exists. God is good and merciful, so what does he think of the cruel and the sadistic?

You can be the most loving. You know that the Israelis liberated a Yazidi girl from Hamas? Yes. Who had been raped for the last 10 years or so? Two children from her rapist? It's beyond understanding to me that, you know, those who know those things, especially at the highest levels of our administration, that they can't.

see that or they choose not to? What is it? What's happening to our administration and our government, Dennis?

There is a, in the Democratic Party, there are two nefarious forces at work, and they are deeply influential, and they will be even more so if Kamala Harris and Tim Walz win. And that is the radical Islamists who came over in this big wave from the Middle East and the left.

And so you end up with queers for Palestine. As morally absurd an idea as one can imagine, but the left so hates Israel, and

and the United States, but it's just like, as Khomeini says, America is the big Satan and Israel is the little Satan. But those two are very, very dark influences in a party that had always been a liberal pro-Israel. It is now left-wing and anti-Israel. It's a little like Jews for Hitler.

And I don't think that ever happened. But that's what that is. No, that's exactly what it is. That's right. Yes. Dennis, I'll be. Yeah, go ahead. No, go ahead.

No, no, I was just going to note, this week I'll be speaking at MIT in Brown, and I'm going to be so curious who shows up, what they will say. I hope it's videoed, because what's happening in our quote-unquote elite campuses, I have warned literally all of my adult life, I have warned people that...

that the preoccupation with getting your kid into a quote-unquote good college is the idol worship of our day. It is. It is. Dennis, the Western civilization, I was at a church, I'm in Kansas City, and I went to this Methodist church. I like to go to other people's services. I don't think I've ever been to a Methodist.

And I don't think, you know, I'm not saying that this is typical of all Methodist churches, but the pastor talked politics, and he was trying to be fair, but I don't think he hit that mark. But he was talking about how Western civilization in the United States of America is not going to collapse. It's not in danger. We've been here before. Can you give your thoughts on that idea? Yeah.

Well, we've not been here before. That's not so. And I'll give one example, but of course I could give many. And that is the single most important freedom is the First Amendment. That's why it's the First Amendment. But I have no doubt at all. I'm not one to make predictions, but this is not a matter of prediction. This is a matter of certitude.

There will be a clamping down on free speech. There already is. But there will be a governmental clampdown on free speech, the likes of which we have never seen in the United States. There was one freedom that whatever side you were on, you took for granted. Hey, it's a free country. It's like a line people would use. I can say whatever I want. It's a free country. No, you can't.

And Kamala Harris has announced it, and Tim Walz has announced it. They haven't hit it. Hillary Clinton? They all have. That's right. And Hillary Clinton. We have not been here. We have not been taking healthy girls' breasts off because they say they're boys. That pastor's living in a cocoon. What do you think that, selfishly, let me ask this question, what do you think that means for us, Dennis?

Us meaning us who believe in the Western... Oh, you mean the freedom of speech issue. Yeah. Well, I don't know what it will mean. I know that it even transcends those of us who are broadcasting, but they hate us. There's no question. And what they do is...

My field of study was communism. I learned Russian to read the Soviet papers. What they did since Lenin is declare all dissent misinformation. This is a 100-year policy of the left. Not of liberals. I always make a distinction. Liberals tragically vote left, but liberalism and leftism have nothing in common.

The liberals think they do, but liberalism doesn't. And in any event, that's what you do. You declare what you differ with misinformation. And you end up with the New Zealand prime minister during COVID. I play it on my radio show regularly. If you don't hear it from the government, it is not true. She is now, by the way, she is now teaching at Harvard.

Unbelievable. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts. We're we're we're sitting here on day 365. Stu, do you remember Nightline was started because of the Iranian hostages in 1979 and they used to do a countdown countdown.

And I'm trying to remember, was it 344? How many days was that? Can you look that up? Sure. Yeah, I'll look it up. I don't know off the top of my head, though. Yeah. We're at 365 or 366 if you're counting with Israeli time. But, I mean, this is not new for the Jewish people. They've been under attack. My theory is...

As soon as, if you believe in evil as an entity, as soon as Satan heard, you know, you're my people, I'm going to protect you, you'll number more than the stars in heaven, Satan had to be looking at this little tribe going, you got to be kidding me. If he breaks his promise, he ceases to be God. All I have to do is kill this little tribe?

And I think he's been trying over and over and over again. So it's not anything that, you know, is new to the Jewish people. But hopefully what is new to the Jewish people is that we stand with them. The United States seems to be faltering, but I hope they hear our voices here in the United States. We're not going to abandon the Jewish people like everyone has always abandoned the Jewish people. At least I'm not. I made my choice long ago. Yeah.

Just so you know, 444 days, of course, notably were the days that the Iran hostage crisis lasted, but notably ending on January 20th, 1981. What happened on January 20th? Yeah, inauguration day of Ronald Reagan. Just in case you're wondering, January 20th, 2025 would be 471 days ago.

If if Donald Trump is elected and put in. And I would imagine that, you know, maybe the same thing could happen because the world will change if Donald Trump is, you know, don't mess with that guy. Just don't mess with him or better yet, don't mess with America when he's in charge. Let me go to Rabbi Shore. Rabbi Shore is he's a filmmaker, director.

the author of Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Jew. And he's really studied the roots of anti-Semitism. And he's with us now. Rabbi, how are you, sir? Very good, Glenn. Great to be on your show. Thank you. Thank you. So, you know, I just was talking about

I think that this is, you know, something that keeps appearing because evil, every time the world goes really, really dark and evil, the Jews are the first to go. Every time. It's the canary in the coal mine. What do you think that is from? Well, the first thing I want to tell you is I agree with you. The second thing I want to tell you

You'll remember that I've been saying this for a long time because I'm the producer of the film Obsession, Radical Islam's War Against the West. Oh, man. I've been on your show a couple of times, right? Yes, yes.

You you obsession is what we obsession is special. We did at CNN headline news that Bill O'Reilly told me he watched and everybody at Fox watched because it beat the ratings at Fox and that never happened. And that was an eye opening documentary. Wow. Thank you for reminding me of that.

Yes, yes. So that's the amazing thing of what you're saying, Glenn. I think I've done it again. This film and this book, Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Jew?,

goes exactly into what you just said, the nature of anti-Semitism. And you mentioned, just as I was listening in, that when evil comes into the world, it finds the Jew. And that's actually my thesis, because the Jewish people, and I'm one of them, I live in Jerusalem, originally from Canada, but we've been beaten up. Our psyche has been so beaten up from 2,000 years of

of constant persecution. So it's hard for us to appreciate how wonderful we actually are and the contributions that we've made. But it actually says in the Torah that at Mount Sinai, Sinai, the play on words, that Mount Sinai hatred came into the world. So it's actually a Torah source for exactly what you just said, that when the Jewish people were assigned this role to be messengers to the world,

that we became a lightning rod for evil. And that has been our story. But what I point out in my book is that that should be a source of tremendous pride and empowerment for the Jewish people. Antisemitism should be the source of pride, yes. I'll tell you, Rabbi, I was just talking to a group of Christians last night in Kansas City, and I was out with a group, and we were talking about

The times that we live in, and I think the return of the Messiah is coming myself. I don't know. Everybody's said that forever, but...

You know, with everything that is going wrong in the world today and evil, I do know we have a clear choice of choose life or choose death. And what an honor it is to be alive at this time, to be able to serve and to be able to stand up for what's right. It's not going to make us comfortable. It's not going to be it's not going to be fun.

But we should view this as an honor to be able to stand up and be awake at this time.

Yes, and I'm in complete agreement. And that's why my message is also in the book, is what an honor it is to be a member of the Jewish people, to be that people that are bringing this positive message and the light into the world. And for that reason, evil tries to snuff us out every time. And what an honor it is for everybody who wants to be on the right side of history to

to stand with us. And I can just thank you, Glenn, not only for the support you've given me in my films, but for your support of the Jewish people in Israel. I'm deeply, deeply appreciative. And your voice is heard. We don't have a lot of friends around the world, sadly. So your friendship is deeply appreciated. Oh, yeah. It's sincere and it will not go away, Rabbi. So tell me about the film. Where can I see it?

Well, the film is called Tragic Awakening. We're just starting to do screenings. We're working on a couple of broadcast deals. We'd love to show it on your broadcast platform. And I'll send it to you, though, so you can watch it. It's a 50-minute film, and it does exactly what we've been talking about. It explores the nature of anti-Semitism, and it kind of exposes anti-Semitism.

weaknesses in the usual fairly superficial explanations for anti-Semitism. It's because we have too much money. It's because we're poor. It's because we're capitalists. We're communists. We go deeper into the moral and spiritual reason. But what's really fascinating is that Adolf Hitler himself articulated that

that he understood that the Jewish people were bringing light into the world and morality into the world. He was very clear. And in the film and in the book, we outline his ideology in his words. And it's been quite unknown. What did he say? Do you remember? Oh, sure. There's an entire chapter in the book. But he basically said World War II,

is a war between Germans and Jews. Everything else is facade and illusions. So on the surface, he said, we're fighting England, we're fighting Russia, but really deep down, it's a fight between the ideology of the Jews, which is the idea of humanitarianism, love, peace, equality, human rights,

versus the ideas of barbarism, the jungle, might makes right, social Darwinism. And it was those two ideologies. And Hitler saw that the Jewish ideology, through Christianity and through Bolshevism, communism, had basically taken over the hearts and minds of the world

And he wanted to reverse it, reverse engineer it to bring it back to the jungle, to the paganistic jungle where might makes right and conquers that. And he knew that if he was going to accomplish the job of bringing the world back, he needed to wipe out every single Jew from the planet because every Jew represented that light. He was also going to destroy Christianity.

He said these things over and over again, and I outlined them in the book and the film. Yeah. Amazing, huh? It is. We're talking to Rabbi Shore about the roots of anti-Semitism, and I have to tell you, for those who think that they need to vote, as they should, according to what God is looking at, may I just suggest to you...

That you may not like Donald Trump and, you know, how he deals with people or or whatever. But forget about the two figures, Kamala and Donald. Forget about them.

Ask yourself which side is on the side of the Ten Commandments and Western civilization. If you're trying to take Western civilization down, then you are not on the side of the Ten Commandments because Western civilization is all built around

around the Torah and the New Testament. You cannot separate the Old Testament from the New Testament. This is the stock, and as we erode all of these pillars that come from our Judeo-Christian belief...

You're destroying the Western civilization. That is why the world has made progress. That's why we don't live in the jungle anymore. It's why we don't have eye for an eye. It's why we seek justice, real justice, not throwing homosexuals off of a rooftop like they do in Islam. You need to look at which side...

is saying we uphold this and which side is saying we're taking it down rabbi uh thank you so much i i really appreciate it and if you're ever in town please look me up we got to get together and send me the film because i would like to see it and we'd we'd uh you know i can't speak for the blaze but i'd like to have the blaze uh cover it yeah but i'll share it with you and you mentioned where you can see it you can go to tragicawakening.com the

The book is at bigbadjew.com, and of course you can also see it at Raphael Shore with a ph.com. You can find out about how to see the film. And I appreciate being on the show, and I can tell you, Glenn, that you are going to love the film and the book because it is just a lot of research that supports

the kind of material that you just mentioned. Yeah, in the film we talk about the Ten Commandments just like you did. So thank you for your support and your clarity, and I appreciate being on your show. Thank you very much. Rabbi Shore, we'll talk again. TragicAwakening.com is the location for that film.