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On today's podcast, Aram Sabariam is right out of the gate to talk about Kamala's track record with plagiarism and what his investigating had brought to life and why it's important. Also, lucky to have former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss joining the program today, talking about what appears to be election interference from her country instead of, let's say, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Plus, my new book, Propaganda Wars, is on sale now at glensnewbook.com or wherever books are sold. Justin Haskins returned for more of the stories that we couldn't get to yesterday. We are looking today into...

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Aaron Saberiam is with the Free Beacon. He has just written a story. Kamala Harris plagiarized pages of congressional testimony from a Republican colleague, plus a fictionalized story about human trafficking. This happened in 2007. More charges of plagiarism. Remember, this is what ended Joe Biden's presidential campaign. And when was that?

88, I think. Yeah. He was out after he was caught plagiarizing. I don't think anybody cares anymore. I really don't. Why is this even important? Maybe Aaron can give us some insight on that. Hi, Aaron. Hi. Thank you for having me. You bet. So first, tell us what the new charges are on plagiarism.

The main ones are that she plagiarized pages of congressional testimony from a Republican colleague. That guy is named Paul Logley. He was a state's attorney of Winnebago County, Illinois, at the same time that she was district attorney of California. He testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee in February of 2007, and

And two months later, Harris testifies to the House Judiciary Committee about the same bill and just lifts almost all of what he said word for word, typos and all. So that's the first allegation. And then the second, I mean, there's other allegations, but the other one that I think is serious is that in one of her reports as attorney general, she plagiarized a fictionalized story about

human trafficking. So the story names and details have been changed to ensure confidentiality. The source of the story said this is only for informational purposes, you know, implying basically don't quote it as if it's a real thing.

but Harris plagiarized it anyway. And the only detail she changed was the location in the fake story. Uh, the human trafficking victim was supposedly from Washington, DC. Harris changes that to San Francisco. So that's her office is in effect, taking credit for the rescue of a human trafficking victim, except it's all fiction rescued in her state. Yes, exactly. That, that one to me is really disturbing. Uh,

The congressional record is disturbing in this case. She was asked to come up and defend something and talk about why a bill should be passed. And she or her staff...

They didn't have any original ideas. They are just taking it from somebody else, which a state attorney general should have their own opinions on things like this. So she takes somebody's opinion and just uses it, mistakes and all. But this one shows she's willing to take a fake story and

and make it into something that would hold her reputation up as a savior. That's really disturbing, to me at least. Yeah, I think it is somewhat disturbing.

morally suspect at the very least that, of course, we don't know whether Harris herself is the one who wrote this or whether that particular part came from a staffer. It's quite possible it came from a staffer, though, of course, I think that that raises this further question about what kind of staffers are in Kamala Harris's orbit and what kinds of people does she attract to work for her?

Yeah, I mean, I've hired people that, you know, provide information for me on the show every day. If we get it wrong, I take responsibility for it because they work for me. But she hasn't even answered a question on any of these. And I've seen that her campaign, I think it was her campaign, came out and said, blamed it on the staff. Did they not?

I don't know if her campaign has, but there was the guy who she plagiarized for the congressional testimony. His speculation, which I think is plausible, is that there's this group called the National District Attorneys Association that wrote, you know, kind of an opening statement for him. And then it probably separately wrote a statement for Harris and said,

staffers from that organization must have copied and pasted a lot of the language. That may be true. Of course, the only way it would end up in the testimony is if Harris just kind of took the pre-drafted statement that this outside group gave her and made very, very few edits to it, which, again, you know, it's

it's not a great defense because you think that if you're going to testify, you put more of an original spin on it. Right. Don't just take something that's a sort of pre-drafted for you. Right. Um, by an outside, by, by a professional association, not your own office. So the campaign has called the claims of plagiarism, a partisan attack. Uh, they say that it was sloppy writing. That's kind of like, uh,

Tim Wall saying I'm a knucklehead, I think. But they were talking about the book Smart on Crime, a career prosecutor's plan to make us safer, where she had kind of a lot of plagiarism in that. Why should this what should this say to the average American voter?

Look, I don't think anyone seriously believes that plagiarism is the most important issue in this election. I mean, that would be a straw man, right? But if you look at how past plagiarism scandals were treated, they were often seen as kind of metaphors or spandons for candidates' weaknesses. Mm-hmm.

So so Joe Biden. Right. It became a symbol of like hubris that derailed his I think it was 87 presidential campaign with Melania Trump when she plagiarized a couple of paragraphs from Trump.

Michelle Obama's Democratic Convention speech, A, the media was all over it. And B, you had articles run saying, well, Trump, you know, the Trump campaign is denying that this was plagiarism. And that denial is a testament to Trump's horrible character. So they were perfectly comfortable treating the plagiarism, not even of Donald Trump, but of his wife as like,

a metaphor for what was wrong with him. And so I think it's only fair, right? If we're going to, you know, be consistent with the standards to ask, well, what might the plagiarism say or symbolize about Kamala Harris? And I think in this case there, it, it does draft pretty closely with the,

with the deeper criticism that's been made against her campaign, namely that she doesn't really have many original ideas. She just copies prompts or flip-flops on a dime. And look, I mean, that's really the deeper issue. And I think the plagiarism maybe, maybe symbolizes that. Yeah. I think, you know, you look at the, the NBC interview that she did last night where they're pretty much begging her, can you define yourself?

And she can't. And she's using regurgitated lines over and over, the same lines over and over and over again. That, with the plagiarism, says she may not know who she is because she can't really define herself off the cuff. She's not comfortable with it for some reason or another. And so who is she really?

I think that kind of plays into it. I don't think anybody's going to vote about the plagiarism thing. Those days are long gone. But I think it does say an awful lot about her or maybe just confirms what we feel, what everybody instinctively feels about her. I don't know who she is. It seems almost fake, the whole thing. Aaron, thank you so much for everything that you do and the free beacon. You guys are great. You're on it every day. Thank you.

Thank you very much. You bet. Bye-bye. All right. So last night she did an interview. You know, it's really weird. Did you see that she took the day off yesterday? Why would you take the day off? You're what, 13 days away from the election of your life? You lose this.

You're not running again. We've covered a lot of elections together. Do you ever remember ever seeing a candidate in the last two weeks of the election take a day off? Joe Biden. Maybe. Yeah, Joe Biden. I don't remember that, but it would certainly check. It would track. And there's reasons for that. The man is completely incompetent. What is she doing? I don't know. It may just be a complete strategy rehaul.

Right? Again, we've just seen one of those happen over the past few weeks. Maybe they're doing it again. Maybe they needed a day to kind of regroup as things are not going well. But it's a weird strategy to just take a day off two weeks. Even if you're just fundraising, you think you'd be doing something. Right. Nothing.

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Justin Haskins joins us. He is the co-author of the new book that we released yesterday called Propaganda Wars, How the Global Elite Control What You See, What You Think, and What You Feel. First, let me start with something that is very disturbing that is going around. And we mustn't repeat this because we don't know, and this is a dangerous one.

Sensitive intelligence regarding a possible Israeli military action on Iran was leaked over the weekend from someone in the U.S. government. Now, there's a lot of irresponsible reporting yesterday floating around social media. It claimed that the identity of the leaker was known, but we don't know yet who the culprit is at the moment. Formal accusations and charges have not been made.

So why was social media so quick to point a finger? Well, it's because this point, at this point, it is not a question that there is a serious problem within the Biden-Harris administration's national security apparatus. It reminds me of another Democratic administration, Barack Obama administration.

He was extremely comfortable with the Muslim Brotherhood. Now fast forward a few years and now the Democrats are in the same boat with Iran. And this is what happens when ideologues gain access and power within the Pentagon and the intelligence community. There are people that currently have jobs that clearly shouldn't have those jobs, much less a security clearance.

So why hasn't Robert Malley been fired yet? Do you even know that name? Why is he still technically at the State Department, Biden and Harris's Iran envoy, who is under an FBI investigation for mishandling classified information? But there's more smoke that leads to a fire.

The woman who was accused of the current intelligence, and I want to make sure, accused of the current intelligence leak, was once part of a program called the Iran Experts Initiative. And it was used by Iran's Ministry of Foreign Affairs to carry out their agenda. And she is known to be in contact with and take advisory counsel directly from Iranian officials.

Now she still has her clearance and her job at the Pentagon. Why? Why? Again, I fear when any side jumps to a conclusion when you don't know and it is something as serious as this. We don't know who is ultimately responsible for this latest leak,

But we have actually have a much bigger problem here. Radical political ideologues have given jobs to other radical ideologues at the very institutions that exist purely to keep our nation safe from our enemies who are radical ideologues. How many more will we find out about? How many will fly under the radar? That's the bigger issue here. Give it time.

And give it a new administration and you'll find out who leaked that sensitive top secret information to Iran. Now, there's another story that Justin saw over the weekend that goes right to propaganda wars. Yeah, this is a this is absolutely incredible. Fits perfectly with what we're trying to address in the book.

Last week, there was a video that was circulating all over social media on platforms like X and others that showed, uh,

a man, uh, claiming that Tim walls when he was a student. So when this man was a student in high school, Tim walls was a teacher, the same high school that Tim walls, uh, sexually assaulted him. This is what this man was claiming in the video. And the man gave some biographical information about himself in the video that checked out with, uh,

there really is a person at that who went to that high school with that name and some other biographical information. So a lot of people believed it and started sharing it and other things. So then, um, some reporters track down, uh, tried to track down more information about this and they discovered that the man in the video is not actually the man who he claims to be and that the real person whose name is Matthew Metro, um, did,

says none of this is true. This is obviously not me in the video. This whole thing is made up. It's essentially like a staged deep fake without AI, right? So the national security director of national intelligence, they started looking into this and what they claim is that

that Russia is the one that put this out. They're claiming that they've got evidence, that the intelligence community agrees, Russia is the one that created this video and put it on the internet with the obvious attempt to harm the Harris-Walls campaign. Okay, stop there. I want you to notice the difference between the...

Russia, Russia, Russia of 2016, where the DNI did not act to say there are no P tapes of Donald Trump in Moscow. There's none of this. Okay. They didn't ask, uh, um, uh, correct any of that for months. It went on when the FBI knew all the time that this was from a former, uh, FBI asset that had been discredited. Okay. Then, uh,

Look at last election with Hunter Biden's laptop. Russia, Russia, Russia. Yep. Well, how do we believe anybody today that it's Russia?

So why would the DNI, the director of national intelligence, rush to squash this? Do you, A, believe that if that was said by somebody about Donald Trump, that it would have been squashed as quickly? And B, I hope so, but I doubt it. And B, what do they know about it? Right.

Yeah, and the framing of all of this from both the intelligence community, certain elements of the intelligence community, and from the Harris-Walls campaign is very clear. Russia wants Donald Trump to win. This is all about spreading misinformation and disinformation to help Donald Trump win the election. Right.

they flat out said, this is from Morgan Finkelstein, who's a spokesperson for Harris Walls, Vladimir Putin wants Donald Trump to win because he knows Trump will roll over and give him anything he wants. That is the craziest thing. He was harder on Russia than Barack Obama was and certainly harder than Biden-Harris. The guy was tough as nails on Russia and China. They don't want him back.

He also sees through them. He knows who Putin is. And so he treats him like that. And people will say, yeah, well, he treats him awfully kindly. Is it a problem to have a rattlesnake as a pet? Okay. I think so. Why? Because it might kill you. Right. So you would think that it's not okay to have a rattlesnake. Right, yeah. I think it's perfectly fine to have a rattlesnake as a pet.

As long as you always remember it's a rattlesnake and not a puppy dog. Right. You start treating it like a puppy dog and it will bite and kill you. Right. If you treat it as a rattlesnake, you too will get along finally, or fine. So that's what Donald Trump does. Yeah. He knows that's a rattlesnake, but they can get along because...

He never forgets that's a rattlesnake. Right, right. Yes. And then so then I think what's really important about this story is this is part of a growing trend that we're seeing from the government now.

Over the weekend, a totally separate story. State Department came out and said, we're putting a $10 million bounty on a Russian, because we want to find out the identities of a Russian media company called Rybar. We don't know who's behind this media company, Rybar.

And the framing of this is that Rybar is posting all of these fake news stories all over the Internet. They don't know who's behind it, but it's clearly a Russian operation. Listen to the framing of the story from The Telegraph, who is reporting about this.

It says,

Rybar has over 1 million subscribers on Telegram, the instant messaging and social media platform. It was said the Russian bloggers were behind two social media channels, Hold the Line and Stand with Texas, that have been used to, quote, promote Russian governmental political interests. The hashtags are synonymous, it says, with Republican supporters and

And the whole idea here is these are all pro-Republican, pro-Donald Trump stories that they're putting out. So now you have the State Department saying, well, we got to hunt these people down because they're causing all this misinformation and disinformation. There's more and more of this happening now. So why? Why are they – we're only a couple of weeks from the election –

All of a sudden, the national, the State Department and the intelligence community, all of these people are now saying, oh, Russia is swaying everybody. They're they're putting out all this crazy misinformation and people are getting confused. And this is all because Russia wants Trump to win. I am very concerned.

that they are setting the table as crazy as it sounds because they did this already once before. It seems like they're setting the table for if Donald Trump wins, they have a really convenient excuse for why it happened. It involves a nefarious player overseas who's a dictator that they get to investigate and demand more investigations. And was Donald Trump in collusion with them and all of this crazy stuff that we live through.

you know, eight years ago, I think they're setting the table for it again to delegitimize Donald Trump. And they have to do something to delegitimize him. We all know that if he wins, they got to come up with something and they've already tried everything else.

Russia, everybody hates Russia, right? It's a really easy villain to pick. And if you can... And they are doing, I can guarantee you, I have no evidence myself, but I can guarantee you they are influencing our elections. So is China. Right. China's our number one enemy.

Do you not think they're sowing discord here as well? How come we haven't heard anything about China at all? Right. And in our book, Propaganda Wars, we point out that...

all of this. We talk about the main players who were behind the creation of Rybar and all these people. We don't mention Rybar, but we talk about Prigozhin, who was the former head of the Wagner Group. The Wagner Group is a mercenary organization. He's the guy who died on the plane.

After trying to do a coup in Moscow and then Putin said, you know what? I forgive you. Come home. And then I'm going to send you on a trip on this special little plane. And then the plane went down. That's right. You know, he was assassinated by Putin. I'm sorry. Did I say that out loud? I mean, that's the guy who's behind all of this. That's right. And they said at the time.

that when that all went down and Pergozan was killed and everything, Putin came out and said, I'm shutting down all these misinformation, disinformation factories that we have. We're going to shut them all down.

And they clearly didn't. They just reimagined them with people who are not loyal to Prigozhin. They brought all these operations back up. And what's really, I think, disturbing about it is a lot of this stuff is kind of crude. This isn't like really advanced forms of misinformation, disinformation. Why would Russia...

crudely put these things out where anyone, they have a video of a guy claiming to be another person who's still alive. And it's obviously not him. Why would they do that? It's as, it's as clumsy as, uh, the Graceland scam. Yeah. Graceland wouldn't pay its thousand dollar bill. So we now own Graceland. It's like, yeah, everybody knows that. Yeah.

All right, hang on just a second. Justin is the co-author with me on my new book, Propaganda Wars, How the Global Elite Control What You See, Think, and Feel. Now, next hour, I'm going into something that's not Russia. England.

is now proven to be a culprit in a real foreign election interference story. It was leaked now. Their plans as an advisory group with close ties to the prime minister of the current socialist or Labour Party prime minister, Starmer, in England. And I have the former prime minister, Liz Trusson, with me in about 45 minutes.

You don't want to miss this conversation because they are interfering and they are engaged directly with the Harris campaign. You want to talk about election interference. That's it. But nobody is paying attention to this in the press. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts.

The former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Elizabeth or Liz Truss. Welcome, Liz. How are you? I'm very well. Great to be on the show, Glenn. Thank you. So do I. I'm sorry. I just don't know. Do we still call you prime minister? Like sometimes. Not in Britain. Not in Britain. OK. OK. All right. So.

You know, we I don't know if you remember this, but we met earlier this year and we just had exchanged a few words. But in listening to you speak and everything else, I thought I this problem is bigger than any of us thought it was. And it is deep, deep, deep in the structures of not only our country, but England as well. They're going in a different direction than what they're telling people. Is that did I read you right?

That is absolutely right. And it was only, I'd been a government minister for 10 years, and it was only when I got into Number 10 Downing Street that I understood the full scale of what we were up against. Because it isn't just the political parties. It's not just the civil service. The left has successfully captured the institutions in Britain. And it is going to be a very, very big struggle to...

be able to change things here. And we now have an even worse situation. We have a socialist government that want to try and cancel free speech. They are trashing the British economy. People are leaving Britain, millionaires are leaving Britain at a faster rate than any other country in the world at the moment. So we are in a very, very difficult situation. And the

The Labour Party are going for free speech. You'll be aware that they've attacked X, they've attacked Elon Musk repeatedly because that is one of the few avenues where people are really hearing the truth of what is happening. So there is a story that was just released yesterday, internal documents from the Centre for Countering Digital Hate.

whose founder is a British political operative, Morgan McSweeney, now advising Kamala Harris' campaign. The internal plans show the group, in writing, plans to, quote, kill Musk's Twitter while strengthening its ties with Biden-Harris administration and the Democrats, like Senator Amy Klobuchar, who has introduced multiple bills to regulate online misinformation.

So it's showing that something that is in your country, started in your country, partly funded by us and now brought into our administration, is actively working with our administration. And I would assume in some ways your administration, not yours, but, you know, the the administration of Great Britain to silence speech.

We're in our governments are in cahoots doing really bad things to the public. Are they not?

And just to be clear, Morgan McSweeney is now the chief of staff to the prime minister. So this man is incredibly senior within the Labour Party's administration. And there have been numerous public attacks on X by the prime minister. Now, I don't believe that he will succeed if he takes on Elon Musk. But the mentality...

isn't to have an honest discussion about what's happening in Britain. The mentality is to try and quash any dissent and stop people talking about the very real issues that are affecting us. For example, the sheer scale of illegal immigration into this country. So we have a very worrying government. And I've been...

following the u.s elections and comments by hillary clinton comments by members of the democrat campaign and it seems to be the same thing going on not only not only are they putting in place these disastrous policies they're also trying to stop anybody talking about them i've been talking about this for a while and and i've been trying to get people to understand this is not about uh

Left versus right, Democrat versus Republicans. This is about elites and against the people. And the people know they're being lied to. How can there be a problem throughout the entire West of illegal immigration at the scale we've never seen ever before in the history of the modern world?

And our press in every single country is treating it exactly the same as are the administrations. That doesn't that doesn't compute. It doesn't work out mathematically to be a coincidence.

And you're right about the public. The public understand there's a problem. They really are fed up with the mainstream media in Britain not telling the truth about what's happening and presenting things in a way that is very far from their real experiences. And you started off, Glenn, by saying England is doing this to the US system. It's not England. The English people, the British people are...

Or with us. Very much concerned about illegal immigration. Yes, I know. It's the it's the it's the Labour Party. It's the media elites. It's the corporatists. And it is the civil service and the bureaucracy, which does not want to know. So how much of a role did this play in the destruction of Donald Trump and you personally?

What happened to me was the Bank of England were, and they've admitted this since, were responsible for the market turmoil that took place in October 2022. But the British media adopted the narrative that it was my fault. So they-

took the narrative from the Labour Party, from the Bank of England, and they simply repeat it. And they repeat it to this day, even though the Bank of England has put out an official report saying two thirds of it was their fault. And what I think has changed about the media is it's no longer a neutral arbiter. It is pushing a particular narrative and a particular agenda. And I see the same about Donald Trump.

if you look at what CNN puts out, they are not interested in what the truth of the situation is. Even the reporting of President Trump's visit to McDonald's. It was just some ludicrous, ludicrous media commentary on that. And I think it is a massive problem. It's why we need very strong independent media here in Britain. It's why we need X. Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.

That is the situation we're in. Yeah, he is in Brazil. He is really all over the world. He is. And I don't think he could do it if he wasn't the richest man in the world. But he is truly the last gatekeeper. If he goes down, there is no gatekeeper in power currently today that will keep the gate of freedom of speech alive. That's a little terrifying.

That's right. And in the United States, you have the First Amendment. We don't have that in Britain. I know. We're in a worse position for the protection of freedom of speech. And we have seen people very recently jailed for things that they put on social media. They've got... Those might not be wise things that they put on social media. Sure.

But there are other people being let out of jail who've committed very serious crimes. Right. I saw a story from England that was a pedophile got less time than somebody who said something stupid on social media. That person, they threw the key away. But the person who was a pedophile didn't have the same kind of sentence at all. That's madness. Yeah.

It is madness. And what has happened is that our judiciary is no longer accountable. It's no longer accountable in the way it was. And this goes right back to the 2000s. And it was Tony Blair's government that took away the accountability from our judiciary. And

They outsourced so many decisions that used to be made by politicians have now been outsourced to the bureaucracy. And they are not accountable to anyone. Yep. Not accountable to anyone. It's exactly what we did here. So are you optimistic that because this is such an octopus situation,

that quite honestly has the intellectual power of the world at the universities, has the money of the corporations, the power of the state, the power of the media. This is going to be really hard to kill. This is a hydra. Are you optimistic that the people can win all around the world?

The number one thing is the people are on our side and they are becoming increasingly frustrated. And you saw that in Britain at the last election where it was the lowest proportion of the electorate voted for the two main parties because they are so frustrated that whoever they vote for into office, they get the same policies because the bureaucrats are still there. So the people are on our side and that is our big strength.

It's going to be very important that Donald Trump wins the election in the United States. I hear good things, Glenn. You're closer to the ground than me. But this is vital. And it isn't just vital for America. It's vital for the West overall. Because I can imagine what a Kamala Harris presidency will do for things like freedom of speech. And it is not pretty. Especially in collusion with Starmer in...

England, Great Britain. That's terrifying. That's right. Can I ask you, the Labour Party is doing something that is apparently legal here in the United States, as long as there's no money changing hands, but I

I'd like to see anybody from Great Britain come and knock on doors in Texas. They wouldn't really be welcome. But you have a hundred people from the Labour Party, the Socialist Party now, coming over to the United States and helping Kamala Harris, not only through advising, but actually on the street working for her campaign. I've never seen that before. Have you? No. And...

Given the ruination that they're bringing to Britain, I don't know why any American would think that is what they want in the United States.

Our energy prices are four times your energy prices because of our net zero agenda, because we're not doing fracking. These are the kind of policies these people are advocating. So I don't think any American would want to listen to them. I think there's a question, though, these people who are coming over, who's paying for their airfares? Who's paying for their accommodation?

Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced? Those are the questions I would be asking. If the Republican Party or the Democratic Party came over and did the same thing, how would the people of Great Britain react? Well, it would be...

It would be a problem because under our electoral law, you have to be a British citizen to donate to the campaign. Right. And if the Americans had flown over, who's paying for their flights? Right. That would count towards election expenses and it would be classed as a foreign donation, which is illegal.

Liz, I can't thank you enough for joining the program. I think you are really, really a clear thinker. You see it now, and it's nice to... I had to experience it to see it. It was...

This is why I'm right. Sorry. I would love to have you on for a longer broadcast and go through that because I'm fascinated by what you saw and how your eyes were open the minute you walked into the prime minister's home of, you know, 10 Downing Street. Could I ask you to join us?

Yes, be delighted. Great. Thank you so much. That is Liz. Thank you. You bet. That is Liz Truss. She is the former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.