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Toxic Fairy: Beautifully Flawed

2024/9/30
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Toxic Fairy, a well-known TikToker, joins Bunnie Xo on the Dumb Blonde podcast. They discuss Toxic Fairy's rise to fame, her struggles with public perception, and the challenges of being a prominent figure on social media.
  • Toxic Fairy feels 'blackballed' online and misunderstood by many.
  • She believes people are set on misinterpreting her due to her beauty and online presence.
  • Bunnie Xo admires Toxic Fairy's strength and authenticity.

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Is this thing on? What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Hey. Hey, baby. Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. You guys know I don't do a lot of TikTokers anymore, but there's one girl that has always kind of had a special place in my heart. And I promised her, I think about a year or two ago, I was like, whenever you're ready, hit me up and I promise you can come on the podcast. And she hit me up a few weeks ago and I was like, come on down, baby. Miss Toxic Baby.

I'm so happy to be here. You have no idea. I love you so much. I want to be just like you when I grow up. I love you. I'm not even kidding. I love you. That's such a compliment because I think that you're such a strong girl and that's what I've always seen in you. I get like,

Like between you and MJ, and I know you and MJ had your beef in the past, but I feel like MJ's grown up a lot, especially this year. She's had to grow up a lot. And I've also had to watch you level up a lot too, you know?

just physically, spiritually, mentally, everything, the shit you go through, you literally pour your heart out online. And I mean, if people are on TikTok, they know who the fuck you are. There's no way they can't know who you are, you know? And I just feel like you give so much of yourself online. And I just respect that because it really comes across authentically. I feel like I'm really blackballed too, in a sense, like people like, I'm

People like act like people don't see me how you see me. Like most of the time I have a lot of people who do support me, like a lot of people love me, like, you know, but a lot of people don't love me. And they the the perception they have of me is the complete opposite. Like they I can't explain it. Like I think people are set on wanting to misunderstand you because you're a beautiful girl. So that immediately happens.

makes people jealous, female and male, you know, males because they can't have you females because they want to be like you. And a lot of people don't know how to be jealous of somebody and admire them. So they are jealous and they look at them with hatred. And I don't think that it's necessarily that they don't see you. I think that's why they hate you is because they do see you if they do really hate you. You know what I'm saying? Yes.

But I like the things that they like they say about me are the complete like opposite of what I am. So it's like I have to fight for my life all the time. But it's I know. Doesn't it get exhausting? It is. And like, yeah, it does.

Let's take it back because I tried to like research you and I can't find like any backstory to you. Like I don't even know. Like how did you come up with the name Toxic Fairy? Like where did you grow up? Like how was your childhood? So let's kind of bring it all the way back. Where did you grow up? I was born in southern Illinois. So I was born in Heron, like a small town in Heron, Illinois.

And my I moved to Florida when I was like seven years old because my dad got a job as like a pharmacist in West Palm. So we moved from the small town in Illinois to Florida to get his job there. And we lived in like a little one bedroom apartment in Woodbine like for a long time. And we just slept like on a mattress on the floor for a little bit till we got our like house and stuff.

out there. Was it just you and your dad? No, my mom. My mom and dad. They're still together for like years, 30 something years. Are you close with them? Yeah. And they're still together and they're just the cutest. I love them so much. And I was like, I don't know. I was always kind of like a bad person.

kid and i regret how i treated my mom when i was younger growing up i love her now but like if i could go back and treat her better yeah than i did i would i love her so much but isn't that the beauty of growth that at least you can come back and be like you know what i treated you like shit and i'm so sorry but i love you so much now no i love her so much i think that's like how mom and daughters are in general because i know my 16 year old sometimes i want to wring her fucking neck dude but then other times i'm like you are just i love you so much you can do no wrong

Yeah, I hope my baby's not my karma because I love her so much and I want her to just be a good girl forever. She's so cute. I can't wait to talk about her. I know, I love her. Can we wait one second? Are you just going to need your mic down? I don't want your face to be off. Okay, we're... Yay, now I can see your face. I'm like, sometimes I'll do that. I'll be like this. And it's so funny. Mimi will be like this.

every time. We're good. There you go. So you guys lived in Woodbine. You guys lived in a one-bedroom apartment. Mattress is on the floor. And then you guys moved up a little bit. Yeah, we got a really nice, cute little house. They still live in it. It's like a two-story house. It's a two-story house.

in Palm Beach Gardens in yeah they have they live a really cute life so but then when I turned um I was like so fucked up as a kid like seriously it was such an asshole when you say you were so fucked up what do you mean like attitude or like drugs or what um I didn't start doing drugs until like I became a stripper like when I turned 18 okay we'll get there then yeah but um I was just like uh

rebellious. Yeah. Rebellious. I was just so angry, like a little, like a little kid angry, but it's also probably because I have sisters and stuff like that, that I love so much, but they're all my half sisters and I didn't live with them and stuff like that. But I, um, I was always alone as a kid and I was kind of weird, like in high school and I'm like middle school, I was like emo and I was different, but like, I wasn't even cute yet. I was just like, and people picked on me all the time. I got a lot of people were picking on me.

And I didn't have any friends. I didn't have any siblings. And I came out to Florida like alone. And it just like, I was just such an angry little. So you said half sisters, where did, where did they come from? They, I have a brother and a sister that is my dad's kids. And then I have two sisters of my mom's kids and they're a lot older than me. And then your dad and your mom got together and had you. Okay. Gotcha. But I didn't grow up with them. Okay.

So where do you think all that anger came from? Because you sound like you have kind of like a picture perfect childhood. Like, yeah, things were rough, but at the same time you had your family. Yeah, I did. I had my mom and dad, but I do also feel like when I was younger, they weren't as much as I love my daughter and I'm like, like, um, like hands on with her and I give her a bunch of attention. I do feel, I'm sorry, mom. I do feel like she wasn't really mentally strong.

there for me as a kid like she was there but she wasn't there so like I felt alone like my whole like growing up like literally alone like she was there but she wasn't you know what I mean sorry

So she just wasn't like a hands-on mom? Yeah, no. Gotcha. Well, you know, parents, and it's no excuse because I feel like we deal with this with our teenager too because Jay and I are on the road so much that we feel bad because we're like, we're not there for you physically, you know? I don't ever want her to grow up and be angry because we weren't there. So we really try to communicate with her. But I feel like back then, like our parents, well, you're a lot younger than me, but I feel like our parents...

didn't learn how to start talking to children until recently, you know? And so I feel like that left a lot of room for like speculation inside your mind as a child of like, why isn't my mom here? Well, she also, I think like she, since you had like a, like she had like an addiction, but not like she was legal. I think she had like a prescription and stuff, but when you take Xanax and stuff, like it's not really easy for you to like be like,

Like involved because like I remember when we were when I was had just moved to Florida and I was a little girl and like it was so bad like we were watching. We were my dad was watching the ballgame and my mom was sitting at the table and she had like she just made spaghetti and like we were all at the table eating but the game was playing my dad and like I remember this and then she just like fell face first into her chair.

spaghetti and like I had like was traumatized as fuck like the ambulance came and like I had to watch her go on like a stretcher and shit like that because she fucking passed out from the damn Xanax and shit it was just like crazy like stuff like that was like was traumatizing to me like seeing her like abuse that stuff and I was and I wasn't aware of that because

that that was what was going on because I'm a kid. I'm not knowing what's going on. But when I got older, I understood why all of that was happening and stuff. That's hurtful. I know. It's just stuff like that. It kind of fucked me up. Where was dad at when this addiction was going on? Because you said he was a pharmacist. He is. I don't know. I don't know much details about how she was on medications like that. I don't know because I still haven't even asked. But I was a little girl, so I wasn't aware. I don't know how.

I think she probably just got to a doctor. They're probably easier to get back then. But she doesn't take anything now. So that's good. She's really good now. She's amazing. And she's making up for it with my daughter. She's with my daughter right now. But she loves my daughter so much. And she's so hands-on with my daughter. And I think she's just making up for it.

fast time with my baby so i appreciate that and i love her i love her so much my mother and i don't mean to put her down i know she's probably watching this i don't want to put her down but it's just like the truth like how yeah and it's your truth and i think all that matters from that situation is that your mom has changed she's changed you know she's gotten better and that's a testament to like what a good mom she is is that she realized like hey i can't fucking be like this anymore i love her today and she's making it up with kalia right that's her name yes

Um, so moving on, how were you in school? Were you always getting in trouble? Cause if you were that rowdy, how was school for you? School was so bad. Like

I was so, I would go to school. I would skip school. Well, actually, let me take it back. When I was in like kindergarten, I had like a bunch of one-on-one classes. Like I think they were like special classes or something because I couldn't even like listen. This was when I was really little. I couldn't go in a cafeteria without it triggering me and like making me like uncomfortable. My mom would have to come and sit with me for the first couple of days of school because I couldn't even function in a fricking classroom.

what's it called? A cafeteria. And then I had my own little one-on-one classes with people when people were in regular classes, like I'd be on the playground while other people were in a class or something like that. That's what I remember faintly. And then when I went to middle school. Did you suffer from like anxiety? I did. I had really bad anxiety. I couldn't deal with

And I probably, I don't know where that like came from. Trauma. Yeah. It's probably trauma. Could have been something that happened, you know, in your childhood or with your parents or, you know, anything can trigger anxiety. So, and I think, I feel like, how old are you? I'm 25. Yeah. I feel like 20 years ago, they weren't diagnosing kids with anxiety. You know, they were just, it was pretty much like you're a bad kid. Yeah. My dad always said like, he didn't want me on medication because he said the medication makes kids worse. That's what he was saying. Yeah. But then when I got to middle school,

I just didn't have any friends. I had like one friend. We're still friends now. Her name's Kyla and Susie and Amanda, but that's a different story. But yeah, but then when I got to high school is when I just stopped. I didn't do any of my schoolwork. They would put the papers on my desk. I wouldn't even do it. Like I flunked every single thing. I was just not,

school just wasn't your thing. I feel like you, you strike me as a creative. So I think like kids that are just naturally creative, they have a really hard time focusing in school. School was never my jam either. I literally was like, I can just, I was there and just going through the motions, but it's because we have creative spirits where it's like, we just want to be free and we want to create like art and whatever that art is. It doesn't have to necessarily be drawings. It could be like content. It could be, you know, any sort of

other than fucking learning two plus two or algebra or whatever shit we're being told that we need to learn at that time. It's kind of like we have a fuck the system mentality. Right. So you were going through this hard time in high school and junior high and stuff like that. When you graduated at 18, you decided just like, hey, I'm going to be a stripper. I didn't end up graduating. I literally dropped out. What grade did you drop out in? Ninth grade. Mm.

Did your parents let you or? Yeah, my dad was so disappointed in me. He's like even said, but he was telling me this at 17 years old and I thought it was a weird thing to say, but he was right. He's like, you're going to have to fucking be a stripper or something because I don't know what like. But when he said that, I wasn't even thinking about that. But he said it like aggressively, like mad because I was just such a piece of shit. And he was like, you're going to do that. I was like, why would my own dad say that? And then little like later on, I actually did do that.

Might have planted a seed and you didn't even know it subconsciously. Yeah. When take me on your first night of dancing and how you got involved in that. I went on my first night of dancing. It was my 18th birthday. And, um, I did such a good job. My first day I made a, I remember I made a thousand dollars on the first night and I was just sitting in a booth, um,

with the same guy and he just like gave me a bunch of ones and it was a thousand dollars and I was like I was probably beginner's luck but it was just the I was like I like this I'm gonna keep doing this that was the easiest thing ever I worked at Monroe's in West Palm Beach it was pretty cool how are the strip clubs in Florida I don't know how they are now because I haven't danced since before I got pregnant but I had a lot of fun dancing I like I loved it but there's just too much money to make on the internet now than to go and give my energy to people

Oh, yeah. In real life. I make way more on the internet. Oh, I know. And I mean, why would you? You know, you don't have to go and touch people and work all night long and be in that environment, breathe in the smoke, touch people, anything. I feel like I've changed so much. Like, I'm a completely different person with a completely different spirit than I was back then. I feel like I'm healing. Like, you come on this earth...

to heal. And I feel like I, I might not even have to come back to earth again because I've, I'm healing at such a young age. Like I've seen adults still, I can tell when someone hasn't even healed nothing. I don't think, I don't want to come back here, like to earth again. So I want to just get it over with and like heal from everything. Do you feel like you're, you've kind of been tortured, like a tortured soul on this earth since birth? Yes.

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when did, how old were you when you had Kalia? I was 22. Okay. So you're dancing from 18 to 1920. Yeah. So you danced from 18 till 20. Yeah. Take me on that journey of just the hat. Is that how you met fly? Um, actually, no, I met him when I was like, I was 19 and, um,

He was on Instagram, but he wasn't, like, popular on Instagram yet. Like, he had, like, 5,000 followers. We were friends for a while. And then we hung out, like, with everybody, like, with a big friend group. And we just never, like, left, like, stopped being friends and cool. And then I kind of, like, I liked him and he didn't like me at first. Okay.

how could he not like how could he not like you I don't know I guess because he was like messing with a bunch of girls like a bunch of girls at one time like like a guy like does he just had a bunch of hoes and stuff like that but I but before him I was like I had just been getting out of a really toxic relationship right before I met him yeah let's talk about that with this guy named Devron he's horrible he's in prison right now for 15 years because he's such a piece of shit

Piece of shit. How old were you in this relationship? 18, 19. Like I had just got out of it. Okay. And yeah, he was horrible and abusive and disturbing. He literally used to beat the fuck out of me badly. Like it was so bad. And.

and um harassed me and my family like threatened to kill my family all the time he'd break into my house and one time my breaking point like i would have already been over him right like i had already been over him but he you know how like i don't know if you you don't probably know but he would kept calling me and calling me and like would manipulate me to get back together with him but i was already like mentally checked out but this one time that i knew that i had to like literally leave him alone forever is when he broke into my house on my 19th birthday and um

He kept calling and calling and calling. And he was like, I answered the no caller ID and it was my puppy. Cause I was getting a tattoo. I was getting a tattoo with my friend for my birthday. And he was mad that I didn't want to hang out with him for his birthday, for my birthday.

Because he had work and I told him not to call off and I wanted to spend time with my friends. So he was calling me and I thought he was at work or something because whatever. But then he breaks into my house and I hear my dog screaming on the phone, like whimpering. And I was like, is that my dog? He's like, yeah. And imagine what I'll do to your real family if...

if, like, after this or whatever. So I literally race home. I have my dad meet me at my house, this and that. And then the cops are like, oh, she's fine, she's fine, whatever. They leave, like, because they saw my dog. And they said she was fine. But then when I got inside the house and told my dog to, like, walk towards me, she was dragging her back legs. Like, she's literally paralyzed, a little Pomeranian puppy, because he was jealous of my dog. You understand what I'm saying? Like, literally jealous of her. And she was just, but there's a good thing.

After like praying and praying and praying over my dog and stuff like that, she walked again after literally she was paralyzed and she walks again and she lives at my parents' house. Any man that can hurt a fucking animal is a disgusting fucking human being. He is disgusting. What did he end up going to prison for? I think he went to prison for like drugs or something, like selling a lot of drugs. But the thing is, the craziest, most disgusting part about that all is that...

when I told the police and I tried to make a report about that, they were like, the police were being so weird. They're like, nobody was in the house. Nobody was there when we came. Like, are you sure you didn't do that to your dog?

Like the police said that to me. I was like, what the fuck is the, like, are we serious? Like they were never any help when it came to him. I would have probably died. Like if he did, if I didn't get him away. When it came to that, I was going to, that was my next question. When it came to the domestic violence, did you ever tell anybody what was going on?

Yeah, the cops would come to my house all the time and I would tell them and they would give me cards. He would run away from my house. They never took it serious ever. He's literally beat my ass with like a pistol and everything like stomped me out like all types and I couldn't get away with from him because he knew where I lived. I was already mentally checked out and that was right before I met Fly.

So like, how did you meet Devron? Devron, right? He was friends with, um, my ex-boyfriend Joelle at the time. And I was just like being petty and was trying to go after his friends. Immature. I would never do something like this again. I mean, you're a baby. And then I just, it was just in the same friend group. So you had moved out cause you said you called your dad to meet you at your house. So once you started dancing at 18, you were like, I'm out of here. Immediately left my mom's house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I'm so happy that you survived that relationship and got away from that dude because I mean, and don't ever feel bad for going back. Toxic relationships are so fucking hard to get away from because normally it's like so passionate and then we just get,

um addicted to that push and pull and that passion and then you know the fighting and you get addicted to just the pain is really generally what it boils down to yeah pretty much and it was just disgusting and that's whenever after that literally like alex which is fly was in the like a program or like jail or something with my the ex or whatever because everything's aligned like everything

It's a really small world. It's crazy how everything is. No, I feel like that crowd that you hang out with is like everybody is with everybody. It's really wild. Literally. So he was like locked up in jail with him or whatever. That's and that's crazy how they knew each other and stuff like that. And then I was friends with Alex for a while. And then.

we started dating like after a few months of like being friends. What is dating to fly? Because I, okay. And I just need to give a disclaimer cause I'm sure fly is going to listen to this. And I feel bad because I feel like every time somebody comes on the podcast, they're talking shit about him. I genuinely, and I told you this, do not have a problem with fly. I've never met him. I don't, I've never been in his energy. I don't like the things that he does, but at the same time, you know, it's like,

I don't know the dude. So, you know, I'm not here to just constantly shit on fly, even though fly, you know, tries to talk shit and say that he never asks to come on my podcast, but he does. And he asked again for him and Kayla to come on the podcast. And I didn't even reply to him this time just because I just don't feel like his energy is extremely intense. It's not easy. Yeah. Be involved. Yeah. And we'll talk about that in a little bit. Cause I have seen some things online. Um,

um so I think because I interact with you I get all the Florida shit literally um so you met Fly and did you like fall in love with Fly when you first met him or did it like have to grow it it had to grow like I was hanging out with him for a little bit um we were just all hanging out like as friends we had like a big friend group or whatever and then we started to like

like be together. Like it came kind of naturally. I mean, I liked, I had a crush on him or whatever, like a little later after hanging out with him, I guess we, whatever. But you asked, how does it, what is dating to him? Like, what do you like? Yeah. Like what is dating to fly? Well, before he became like famous, he didn't have shit. So he was actually like, he was way different before. Like he was nothing like he is now. It was

a totally different version. Like he's like, I don't know. Are you thankful that you got that version of him? Absolutely. That was, uh, and that was the version of him I made a baby with. And that's, and if I didn't, I'm grateful for him because he gave me the, my biggest accomplishment. So if he did anything at all, it was giving me the most beautiful baby in the world. And without him, it wouldn't have her. Yeah. So you guys get into a relationship. How soon after that do you get pregnant? Uh,

um I got pregnant like a couple years after that okay when do you become toxic and when does he become fly because did you guys start building your platforms together he he started building his platform before I did um like with the Instagram like he started building his when he was when I was pregnant so him Enzo and Red were all like doing um

Instagram live and stuff like that, but I didn't want to be in the scene. Like, I was just growing a baby. We were in, like, a trap house, and I was just tired of hearing him fucking screaming on the live. I didn't even care to even be on social media at all. What was your guys' relationship like before social media? You just said you guys were living in a trap house. Was he, like, selling? No, he wasn't doing shit at all. Like, I... The reason that we were making money to be able to pay the rent was because I...

I was working on Snapchat. It was before OnlyFans came on. Like, God, it was a thing. And I was making money from a premium Snapchat. So I was able to bring a lot of money in from, like, hustling guys all day on my Snapchat. But our rent was really cheap. So, like, it was easy to make, like, $1,500. And then they had a check from their dad passing. But it stopped when they were, like, what, 19 or something. I don't know about that. But the way that I became, like, my name, Toxic Fairy, we were tripping on acid, right?

Right. Like I never did acid before. Like this was a crazy ass trip. This was before I got pregnant, though. This was just my username. We were tripping on acid and I felt like a literal fairy. Like there was something and I had my crystals all over me and I just felt like a fairy. So I felt magical, but I was in such a toxic, dark place.

in my life. So I was still felt magical, but it was still like toxic at the same time. So that's how I made that too. I love that. Yeah, it was cool. It's kind of endearing. Yeah. So you, when you find, take me on the journey of when you found out that you were pregnant. Okay. So me and Alex have been, we're like fighting like so bad all the time. It was horrible. We were always fighting. He wasn't an island boy yet, right? No. Okay. And he was,

We had a really bad Percocet addiction at the time because he loves to blame this on me, but I think that he doesn't remember that we did Percocets the same day. It was introduced to us both at the same day because our whole relationship, we were not on that at all. And then our friends came over. Well, they're my friends. I'm not going to say their names, but these girls of mine came to my house and they had Percocets.

And they gave it to both of us, like, on a plate or whatever. They gave it to the both of us at the same day. And that's when we both got addicted to them. So, like...

But were you guys dabbling in drugs before that? No. Well, I took a Xanax here and there. But he... I don't even know. I don't think he was... I think he was doing Xanax when I would do Xanax. But we never were doing perks. The perks is what made him an angry, crazy, batshit fucking psychopath, whatever. So he would even think that I'm thinking a thought that I'm not thinking. This one time I was thinking a thought. Not thinking a thought. But he was like, I know what you're thinking. And then literally folded the fucking mattress on top of me and was freaking out like...

Like, and I'm like, I'm not thinking about anything. He's like, why'd you wipe your nose? Why did you scratch your head? I know what those gestures mean. Like just losing his fucking mind. So I would go to Miami and hang out with my friend winter in Miami and her apartment to get away from him. But I guess like during that time I was going back and forth from Miami and like fucking being in an abusive relationship with him, I would like escape by getting an Uber to Miami. I guess I was pregnant like the first time.

Like while I was there, but I couldn't tell. But I felt nauseous and stuff like that when I came home. We were falling out. Like I wanted to leave the situation already. Was it physically abusive? Yeah, but we were both abusive to each other, if I'm going to be honest. But still, he would provoke me to be like that. I'm going to stick. I'm going to defend myself, of course. But he I found out I was pregnant after I wanted to leave, you know. And then I went to the hospital and.

And they just told me I was pregnant because I felt like sick. So I went there and they told me that. It was scary. I was like, oh, fuck. And I'm not going to get an abortion right now. So I'm just going to keep it. Was Fly on board with you keeping the baby? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, but it was just like the worst time ever to have a baby. But then it became the best time ever. And I'm really glad I had her. Take me on that journey. So you find out you're pregnant. You're trying to get out of this relationship, but you just found out you're pregnant. So do you feel kind of like you're stuck or do you want to do you feel like this might be like a.

saving grace for you guys no I didn't feel stuck I literally was like I'm for my baby I'm gonna get out of this shitty apartment that we're in you gotta go find a job you gotta go to work you gotta get your shit together but I'm not paying these I'm not about to do snapchat

pregnant. Like I'm going to go to my mom's house. I don't know what the fuck you're going to do, but you got to figure it out and you need to become a man and you need to get your fucking life together. And I'm going to choose this baby over you. You have to get the fuck. So then he had like this guy in North Carolina that liked him a lot. And his name was Chico. He's crazy, man. But if it wasn't liked him a lot, like, yeah, like he was like a groomer. Like he was like a, an old guy that told him, told the boys that they could like,

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stay with him up in North Carolina and that he knows it. I don't know. Is he so cute? Is Fly gay? No, he's not gay. He's gay for pay, like gay baiting. But I don't know, maybe. I don't think he is. Not maybe. I don't think he personally is, but it looks like it, but I don't think so. Yeah. There's just been too many situations with him and other men that just leave room for the imagination. I think since he made a lot of money off of it, that's what he did it for. But I don't know.

He says he's not. Did you ever sleep with Red? I hooked up with Red when I was, when before we had a baby, it was like around then when we were all in our friend group or whatever. He, we were sleeping at, I wasn't dating Alex at the time. Like we were just still all friends or whatever. And then he had like some girl, he was fucking some girl.

um, and me, so he's, like, annoying, and, um, I was sleeping over at Alex's house, this is bad, but I don't really care, I was sleeping over at Alex's house, and they had, like, twin doors, like, literally, you could walk into his room from his room, and I was, like, I fucking hate this kid, like, he's fucking a bunch of people, like, fuck a bunch of girls, he doesn't take me serious, whatever, so I was drunk, and I went into Frankie's room, and I was, like, I'm gonna go lay in your brother's room, because you keep snoring,

I remember it vividly. It was like, you keep snoring, you're not waking up, you're not talking to me and I'm going to go sleep in Frankie's room because you're being loud. Right. So I go and lay on Frank's bed and I was like, do you have a blanket that I can use on the opposite side? And he's like, yeah. And he gives me a blanket. There's like a throw blanket and he gave to me and I'm laying all the way on the edge of the bed. Right. And he's like not doing anything, but then he grabs me and then he started to kiss me or whatever. But we didn't have sex. That's it didn't work because he didn't.

so it didn't work tile dysfunction at such a young age at such a young age i'm not kidding so no we did not fuck but we kissed yes gotcha um everyone says we fucked but we didn't like well i feel like it's kind of a thing for them too because i think mj went through that too with them it's like a weird thing that the brothers have where they hook up with each other's fucking girlfriends yeah i don't know i i it's just it's fucking weird right but whatever didn't mj say she like mistaked

Yeah. For his brother? Fuck it, MJ said that she thought that Red was Alex. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. There's no way. They don't even look that much alike. Yeah, not at all. I'm like, MJ, I love you. Stop it right now. But that's definitely a rumor, though. Like, when they're saying, oh, you fucked him. I did not fuck him. I literally didn't. I just gave you the whole rundown of how it happened. Like, we probably would have if...

It would have worked, but we didn't. So no. Gotcha. I appreciate the honesty. Um, so going back to you, you told him, Hey, you need to get the fuck out of here. You need to grow up. You need to be a man. He went to some groomers house in North Carolina and you went to moms. Yes. I went to moms and grew the baby in peace. Okay. And he went to North Carolina and was in like a, um,

A trailer park with like rats and roaches and he was living with some guys who smoked meth and shit. I wanted him to just get the fuck away from me. Dealing like not being a man like he needed to be a fucking man like he was. I'm not. I definitely chose Kalaya over him. And then.

Yeah. So he went out there and was making money from like a vape shop or something. But he wasn't even talking to me my whole pregnancy. He wouldn't talk to me. He's like, you made me come out here. You left me. So he wasn't there for you when you were pregnant? No. And he wasn't there when I had her either. So I gave her my last name. But then we got back together when she was like two months old.

Got back together when she was like two months old. I moved out to North Carolina. He started making money on Instagram, like Instagram live. He was like having people send him for promos. So he was started to like pick up a hustle somehow. It was making good money. So he put us in an apartment and I wanted to go home really bad. I wanted to come back to Florida really bad. Yeah. North Carolina and Florida are two different. Yeah. I was like, I can't be here. Like we got to go. So then we drove my little piece of shit Kia Optima.

broken down piece of shit. You had a car though. I know, but at the time it was struggling to get back to Florida. It was horrible. It was hot. And we had a little baby. No, it was just fucked up, the whole shit. And then we got home and then we were bouncing back and forth from my mom's house to his mom's house until we figured it out. And then we started to stay at Airbnbs. And then that's when that whole thing where they got a viral TikTok was at an Airbnb that we stayed at. That's where everything...

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So they blew up when they got on TikTok. You guys kind of like all blew up as a family, I guess you could say, on TikTok from the Island Boy song. Was it Island Boy? That the shit? Yeah. So you guys have this little baby. You guys get this viral moment on TikTok. You've pretty much been in the trenches with this man. Yeah, we made we tried to make it work. Like, obviously, when I went there, wasn't there my whole pregnancy. You tried to make it work, came back home. And then when he blew up, that's, you know.

Did he just change completely after he blew up? Like, can you take me down that road? Yeah, he, um, we, well, what happened is crazy. We were together after he blew up and then he started. I remember you guys being together. I think that's when I started following you. We were together, but then, um,

We got into a fight because I was getting really toxic because I was still suffering from postpartum depression with my baby. She was like not even one yet or like she's just turned one. Yeah, around that time she just turned one. And...

I was getting really pissed off that he was leaving and just not including me. I didn't feel included at all. Like I didn't have anyone to watch Kalaya at the time to being like, do the things that he was doing. Cause I was breastfeeding and I was just me and my baby. That was it. I didn't trust anyone at this time or anything like that.

And he was just doing things. He went to his first show. He didn't invite me. He didn't want me to come. And I'm sure that his mom would have watched her that, like, so I could have gone for a few hours. But he was like, no, I don't want you to come. He would just go do a bunch of things and not include me. And that shit drove me crazy. I was like, why are you not including me? Whatever. So then we got in a really big fight. And then I posted his number online.

on Instagram live and I was like call this fucking clown like everybody blow him up right and then you're and then you gotta love toxic man she don't give a fuck she'll stand on business right and I was like okay everybody call this clown whatever and then MJ got his number from my from my post he flew her out or whatever and then they he was having like a secret relationship with her off the rip like off the rip and I was like I felt like

because every time I text him, because I thought we were just like in a break. And he was like, no, because he had a bunch of girls over. But I didn't know. Had you moved out then? Yeah, I had my own apartment at this point. Which it sounds like you needed your own apartment just for some insanity. Yeah, I had my own place, but I was still going over there like every day. But he...

then he dated the girl but i was like why are you not admitting that you're with this girl but i had to find out because i seen a video of her um saying oh me and my man or whatever and i was like your man i was so confused like because he was lying about it and it was so quick they got together like they were in a relationship quick as fuck like and like the day that she flew there they got together like and i was like what so that's whenever i pulled up there and i was like trying to get in there and like do that thing but it's okay

I love MJ, but she makes some of the dumbest choices. She's cool. Like I don't have a problem with her, but she's a big, like she broke the fuck out of my heart for a little bit, but I'm good. I'm healed from all of that. But that was when she did you a favor. Cause she got her karma. No. Yeah. She definitely did me a fucking favor. Cause the best thing that ever happened to me was,

Was him leaving me the fuck alone? Didn't he fuck Selena Powell while he was with MJ too, or something like that? I don't know. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. That was like a whole thing too, that they had like a huge fight about that. Um,

So you're raising this baby. What kind of dad is he amongst all the chaos and like all the shit that you guys go through? Like, you know, what kind of dad is he? Is he at least a good dad to Kalia? When he sees her for five minutes once a month, if she's lucky. Sure. Literally. Sure. No, no, he's not.

There is speculation online that you only have Kalaya like, what is it? Once or twice a week. And that his mom has Kalaya all the time. Can you, sorry, every serious question I ask, he's over here just fucking sawing logs. No, it's okay. Um, what, and what is your relationship? Cause his mom's kind of getting exposed right now online. So let's talk about that too. What, what is your relationship with her? Has it always been this crazy with this woman? Yeah.

Yeah, no, I don't. That's what I'm trying to tell you. People paint me out to be the worst shit ever.

The people in our community go live every single day from the moment they wake up to the moment they go to sleep. I only go live sometimes. Like if I wanted to go on live all the time like other people, but when I'm with my daughter, I don't go live most of the time because I don't, I like to spend time with her. So I'm only going on live like twice a week. And so people only see me when I'm not with her. Like, you know, so they're like thinking, oh, this girl must be with her not all the time, but never with her because she's,

Never with her on live or something, but they're not processing that. I don't go on fucking the internet every single day and they're not in my life. They don't know what the fuck is going on. No, she gets her every Friday to Sunday.

That's it. Like that. So it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday out of the week. Cause she asks me if she's like, I want to take clay here. I want to be with Kaliya. So yes, that gives me an opportunity to work instead of me going to, uh, getting a job and having to work seven days a week and not, and putting her in a daycare and stuff like that. I'm blessed to have a good support system to where I can have some open time to take to work for my daughter. Cause I'm only, I'm a single mother. I'm doing it myself. So no, she doesn't have her 24 seven. That's a lie. Um,

I love my daughter. I love spending time with my daughter. She's my everything. And that's where I hate when people have my mothering fucked up. And yeah, she's getting exposed right now.

for being like crazy to these, to the young girls or whatever. And like, I actually MJ talked about it when she came on the podcast a couple of years ago and nobody believed her. They were like, you're talking bad about this guy's mom. And she came with receipts too. Nobody was trying to hear it. Now all of a sudden Coco and Amina have these, you know, all these receipts and people believe it. Right. Well, she is undeniably like being,

being mean to the girls or whatever but personally and I'm not saying that's right I have receipts that I can read our messages from last night about because there's this video circulating that everyone knows that um she was fighting with like her sons in front of Kalaya and Amina was holding Kalaya she was probably like one one at the time so this video is like two years old

and someone was like, Kalaya saw this and stuff, so mind you, when she would take my daughter to see him on the weekend, this was two years ago, whatever, they weren't telling me that any violence and fighting were going on, so I'm thinking, she's safe, no one's reaching out to me that this is happening, nobody let me know that my daughter was witnessing these things, because I would have came and got her, so I'm going to read you

What I texted her last night, because people are saying, oh, of course she isn't. She's going to keep letting her see her and she's going to...

put up with this stuff just so she can have a babysitter. But people are not understanding that I'm setting boundaries behind closed doors. And I didn't have to talk about it on live. I could talk about it right now, but I didn't want to go live and talk about it. Like, of course she doesn't want to talk about it. I didn't want to talk about it at the time. So I think people also need to realize that this is Kalia's grandmother. It is. So I'm going to read you

I sent her the thing that someone posted and it says, see the video. Yeah, but the video is deleted, but everyone seen it. It was basically just how Kalaya was in the background of the brothers fighting.

So I texted her and I said, I didn't know that Kalaya was involved in any of these situations. I don't like Kalaya hearing these words or being involved in this kind of drama at all. I should have been called to pick her up. I've never known Kalaya was involved in these situations. I would have got her. I never want her in this kind of yelling and let alone physical violence. She shouldn't ever have gone through stuff like this. I'm wondering why you guys didn't call me by anyone if any of this was happening in front of her. This is absolutely wrong and I don't know why I wasn't contacted. She says...

Kalaya wasn't there that night. I don't know why you're saying she was. And then I slowed down the video, sent her like the proof of her in the back. And I said, Amina is holding her in the back right there. And she goes, she's seen all of us argue. I said, yeah, she's seen all of us argue, like trying to justify. And I was like, but not like that. I said, nobody's perfect, but this is too far.

She said, okay, do me a favor. Don't send me more videos, whatever. So I'm just going to see where I'm going to go to the point where I'm setting the boundaries. I said, I don't want her to hear or see anyone physically fighting or screaming for hours. Yes, you can say she's heard us all yell. She has, but nobody's perfect. But to an extent, and I have been working on myself. Kalaya hasn't seen me ever in an abusive situation except when I was with her father and she wasn't even talking yet because I got out of that. Me and my daughter have a peaceful relationship.

We live in a peaceful environment, just the two of us. I don't put her in those situations. So that's when she goes over there, she gets put in those situations that I wasn't aware of. Sorry, the dog's hair is in my damn throat. It's okay.

And also I told her is since people think that I talk shit about Kayla all the time and I'm in on it. We'll talk about Kayla. But I'm going to like, see what I'm saying. Like what I'm talking about that too. I said, and when she's with you, this is me setting boundaries. So people would think I'm not setting boundaries. I fucking am setting boundaries with the child's grandma. Yes. Because this isn't just some lady on the internet. No, this is my child's grandma. And I was setting boundaries of how I want my daughter when she,

Sees her. So I said, when she's with you, I don't want, I don't want her to hear you talking about Kayla. I don't want her hearing cuss words. I don't want her to hear the word ugly. I don't want her to hear the word fat. I don't want her to hear the word cunt. We cuss all the time. Like what the fuck? That's not like, that's inevitable, but I don't want her to hear like disgusting words. So if you're taught, so I was just saying, we all cuss, but like try to work on yourself. So this is me saying,

And then she was saying she's not going to hear it. Like she doesn't talk to me crazy like she does to other people, you know? You guys have a pretty solid relationship. So she's understanding me. She's not attacking me. She's like, I'm definitely not going to talk about Kayla in front of her. I'm going to not put her in those situations anymore. Like, so basically, moral of the story, I'm setting boundaries and people are thinking I'm enabling it and that I'm in on it. And I'm always just trying to re guide her into a positive light. And people think I'm

on the phone with her like fucking like telling her to do all this shit. I also feel like the internet is like, it is such a mob mentality. And it's like, if you don't think and react how they want you to, or how they think you should, it's just all hell breaks loose. And you don't have to always respond to shit with anger. You can, you can do things in a loving way.

And I don't think that people online understand that. And I'm going to read one more. Yeah. I said, I don't want Kalaya around anything that's going to cause her trauma. If you can't be around Frankie or around Alex without fighting with them, do not involve Kalaya in it. See them on your own time.

Like basically, like if you want to go see your sons, don't bring my daughter involved because, you know, every single time it's going to turn into something. Don't bring her into it. I said, Kalaya has I said, see them on your own. Kalaya never had a father anyway. So no need to bring her around somebody who doesn't want to be there. It's life or peace is better than trying to bring her.

around to see her father when it's extremely dysfunctional. Kalaya can always see you, but I don't want her going around them. So if you want to see the twins, then see them, but please do not bring Kalaya. That's just like, so people are thinking that I'm like allowing this just so I don't, I don't lose out on my babysitter. Like, no, I'm setting my, she's not even with my daughter right now. She's with my mom because I want, since she's going through all this stuff, I don't even want her to be around Kalaya right now because I want her to reflect on things and have some alone time and

Maybe work through whatever she's going through. I don't condone any of that shit. I want her to better herself. I care about the lady. She's a good woman when she's not in a manic episode. That was my next question. You have been around Jenny how long? For literally six years. Yeah, so you know the type of human that she is. I mean, I feel like...

They have a really strange relationship, the twins and their mom. There's a lot of disrespect going on with that situation. Yeah, it's sad. It's really sad. Why do you think that is? I don't know. Okay, honestly, so I'm not going to lie. When I was dating Alex, their energy is so intense that...

It can take you. It could drive you crazy. So when I was dating him before I had my baby and stuff, he would make me crazy like that. So I would be acting out of reactive abuse, like acting. He would make me lose my fucking mind like that, like how she's going crazy. There's not like how she's talking to the girls or whatever, but like when she's arguing with them, they'll take you there. And like, that's why I cut them out of my life because I'm not that person to want to be

arguing like that and like losing my mind like that so I think that like I'm not saying it's their fault it's everyone's fault but because she can eliminate herself from the situation but dealing with their like

like them, it's like kind of difficult to be normal and not argumentative. But when it came to Kalaya, I always chose Kalaya over that. So you just have to change. Like you can't keep reacting like that. Do you think that people also, cause I've also seen this said that, you know, you do say that talks are, um, that, that the dad's environment is toxic and not a good environment for her, but then there, there will be lives where sometimes Kalaya will be on your chest and you'll be arguing with like somebody on

How do you think that affects Kalia? - So, no, you have a good point, but like, it's not, there's like, nobody's perfect. And since I'm with her all the time, like,

It's hard. Like when I'm working and somebody triggered me, I'm not like screaming in like a horrible, like I'll raise my voice a little bit, but it's not like anything compared to how twisted and dysfunctional that type of environment is. Like I'm not cussing, saying the worst words in the world. Like I'm showing emotion, like an angry emotion. Right. But I'm not saying like unacceptable, horrible words in front of her. Like I know I'm not perfect, but I'm not going to like...

tear somebody down like call them ugly in front of her or like punch somebody in front of her like there's different like yes I fucked up by like yelling in front of her but it's just an emotion that we all have and that just happened to be caught on camera I try my best to

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So, Jenny attacking these women, how do you feel about Amina and these girls getting attacked by... I wish so bad that she could not do that. I want her to find that peace in her heart not to do that. You can not like somebody, but you don't have to make it so... Because look at what the situation... It doesn't have to be... You don't have to wake up and do it. You can just...

Why do you think she does it? Is it to protect the boys or is she jealous? Because it almost comes across as like she's jealous of these girls. I don't know why she does that because she's never done that to me. She's never done that to me. People think that I'm scared of...

her losing out a babysitter, but I think that she doesn't want, she doesn't want to lose Kalia. It's not, you know what I mean? So I don't think that she takes it. You guys have a different respect. Yeah. She respects me. I respect her and what she does to those girls. I don't like it. Like I don't, I don't sit up there and do that shit with her. I always try to guide her into a different light and tell her it's okay. And that there's better things to like, there's

other things to do you know like then do this I try to redirect her if she talks to me about it I'll like she doesn't write those things to me but if she's talking about something I'll just be like it's okay like don't worry about it just like trying to calm her down because it'll seem like she's in like a state of mind where she gets stuck in that like vicious state of mind and she needs to overcome that and heal like she needs to heal from something I'm not sure what it is

So take me on this journey with, okay, you guys had broken up. The MJ situation had happened. And then Kayla enters the picture. And when that happened, him and Kayla had dated for a little bit. And then you guys tried to be a throuple. Yeah. Well, I mean, was that real or was that you just coming into fuck shit up? Cause you knew you could. Well, cause I feel like fly has a soft spot for you. I've seen him go online and fly.

literally say toxic is prettier than Kayla. I mean, just the meanest shit that you could say to somebody who's about to have your child. Yeah. Well then he, wait, no, I think, are you talking about recently? You saw that? Yeah. That was red saying that. Oh, that was red. Okay. But I'm sorry. It's okay. No, I just, I know what you're talking about. No, that was Frankie saying that because he doesn't like her right now or whatever, but yeah,

um he has said that type of stuff but then when he's with her he'll say that she's prettier it doesn't ever bother me i don't care he's just like which it doesn't matter it's just disgusting what it's horrible that's rough to do to two women yeah it's horrible it's horrible like it's like then shoot like if he was to say that i'm sure that like she could just it like will fuck your head up like you'll just start comparing yourself and it's just you know it's a fucking nightmare so were you and kayla friends before she got with alex

No, but she came, how I knew her is she was dating Linda or whatever. And she came on a road trip with me and Alex to California when they went on the No Jumper podcast. But she was around us or whatever. But we were never friends. I never like opened up to her because I just felt like weird. Right. I felt a vibe. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

How do you feel about her now, now that she's going to be having Kalaya's sibling? I am happy that she's giving her a sibling because so I don't have to do it. I don't want any more kids. Like I'm happy that Kalaya is going to be able to have a brother. She kept saying she wanted a sister, but I, I would have liked her. It doesn't matter to me. That's not my world, but I would have liked her to have a sister, but I'm

It doesn't matter. And it's not up to me or what, of course, but I'm happy for her. Like, I actually genuinely am happy for her. If that makes her happy and gives Kalaya a whole entire freaking sibling, that's awesome. Like, I don't have a problem with it. At first, I was shitty because I was like, if this motherfucker is going to take care of this kid and didn't ever take care of mine, I'm going to fucking stand for Kalaya. But then I was like, you know what?

It's okay. Like everything is okay. Like life is life. And I love Kalaya enough for the two of us, you know, a leopard will change its spots before it changes its habits. So I'm curious to see how it plays out with that whole situation. But circling back to the throuple situation, what the hell was that?

Well, like I knew I, okay. Cause I watched this. I was like, Oh, toxic. What are we doing? Well, I just like, basically it wasn't real. Like I had been talking to him or whatever. Cause they, to be fair, like he kept telling her that he didn't want a relationship with her. Like he told her that multiple times. He didn't want a relationship with her and they weren't dating or whatever, but she liked him or whatever. But it wasn't me like coming in and wrecking like the happiest fucking home in the world. Like I had just been with him. Like we had a whole fucking kid. Like,

whatever. And then like, they weren't even dating yet, whatever. So I was like, let's come in and like do like a publicity stunt. Like I just left my ex, whatever. It's a different story, whatever. I will. I didn't leave him. He left me for another girl, whatever. Cool. Who is it? Who is that? I forget. What's his name? Um, Tyler. Yeah. But he left me for another girl, whatever. So I was like, fuck it. Let's make some money. Like I left, we, he left me for the bitch, whatever. And then I, um, was like calling Alex. I'm like, we should all just

go viral and I would go viral, whatever. So I was down to literally just like do business with them and stuff like that. But then me and Kayla got into a fight because we got too drunk that same night that she like that I came there the exact same night that we were supposed to just like chill together and make money together. We got into an argument because I mean, he came to my house and slept with me.

like the night before that I came over but she didn't know that I guess and she was like I knew that you did that because I told her and then she pushed him was like I knew you did that with her and then when she pushed him that's like when we started fighting and then she left and that's when like the whole like plot started do you feel a sense of protection over Alex at the moment like now I don't but like at that that in that chapter like I kind of was like

This is the father of my child. Yeah, I was like, why'd she just push him? But now I don't give a fuck. I have no... When I tell you, I have no feeling for him in my heart, like whatsoever, not one bit.

nothing. I don't give a fuck like at all. And I'm so glad, but I'm glad everything like played out the way it is. I'm grateful for like all the chapters of my life and I don't regret anything, but I'm so glad that it's over. Like I want to branch the fuck out. Like I want to do different things and be happy. Dating mop is not going to change things for you. Can we talk about this relationship? Yeah, he, me and him are just friends right now.

But you guys weren't friends. No. And I feel like when you guys go live, I don't really watch. I kind of tuned him out. He's always giving... I don't know him. Again, never met him. But he, to me, seems like he has super dark energy. I think... I mean, we're not getting along right now. That's for sure. I mean, we're getting along right now. Like, I spoke to him before I got here. But, like, for the past... Like, ever since we went to Orlando, we haven't really been getting along. Are you in love with him? Yeah. But...

Like, it's, I just want, I don't know, like, if I want things to change, you feel me? Like, I want things to change. And if they don't change, then I'm cool with being friends. Like, I'm protecting my peace more. You know, they say if you don't find the lesson in each relationship that you're in, that you're going to keep dating the same man in different bodies. Yeah, I've heard that.

And I just feel like you're such a beautiful girl and you have so much love to give. I do. And these boys do not deserve your light. You know, like you genuinely are just a good girl. And I'm so happy you see that. I'm really grateful because you're so awesome. And like as long as like I'm really grateful that you think that.

Of course. And I see it in MJ too. And I know people think I'm crazy for seeing it in MJ too, but I mean, I was you guys' age too. I know when I see a good girl who can actually really do something with their life. And I really truly believe that you and MJ are two girls that if you really fucking set your minds to it, you both could conquer the fucking world. And I hate to keep bringing MJ into it, but you guys are all. I know that's your friend. You know, and it's just like, I really genuinely feel like if you really put your mind to something toxic, you could fucking do it. And you don't,

need these boys. You could do it without any of these boys. You could have the boss of any crew, but for some reason you just keep dabbling in this Florida cesspool. And I'm just like, I can't wait. What did you call it? A cesspool? Florida cesspool. It's just toxic. It's just like, nothing is like good ever comes from it. You know, I just want to be treated right. So fucking bad. Where do you think that need for being, uh,

wanting love so badly from a man comes from? I don't know. Like, I mean, I've always had my dad, but like, so I don't know. I don't have daddy issues. My dad loves me, but was he like very affectionate or like really always, he was always working. I don't know. Maybe it's, I was always alone as a kid. Maybe that's what it is. My dad was awesome. He's always taking care of me. He's the best. He's always, maybe he was always like working like not home. Like I literally lived in Illinois without my dad for like a year when I was a kid. It was just me and my mom. And I was always, I don't know, maybe it's,

I've just always been alone and you know, like growing up, but he was, he loves me, my dad. So I don't have daddy issues. No, I don't know. Well, now that you and mop are on a break, what do you see yourself doing? Like, do you ever think that you're just going to have like a single toxic era and just start running shit, baby? Cause I'm ready for that. Yeah. I swear. Like, I think that's what's going on. Like, I think that's what's going on right now. Cause we were so like fucked up and, but we're like,

I don't want to like cut him off like completely. Like I want to be friends with him. And we were all like, we had like, you're talking about mop, right? Yeah. We had a friendship like before we got back together. Um, so I wonder if like we could be friends and I could, you know, I think that'll come in time. I think when you've been with somebody and I don't know what kind of relationship you guys have, you don't seem like you really want to touch too much on

on it. Um, and I don't want to push it. If you do want to talk about it, that's fine also. But I think when you, you're in such a passionate relationship with somebody, you have to give it time. You're not going to be able to just be friends off the rip. You guys are going to have to let some time go without talking to each other, engaging with each other, not going fucking live with each other. I think it just hurts my heart to see you get disrespected online like that. You don't deserve that. Or to see you crying online. Like that's,

That's not good. You know, like, and it's one, you are, like I said, are such a beautiful girl and you have such a beautiful heart, but two, there's also, you know, a lot of girls that look up to you and watching you just continually give your, and I'm not here to lecture you. I'm just here to like big sister you like,

watching you continually go out with these men that do nothing but treat you like the bare minimum, that's going to hurt you in the long run. That's not going to fucking make you level up in any way. If anything, it's going to chip away at your self-confidence. And I think you need to just fucking spread your wings and fly, dude. Like you really need to like go into a cocoon and come out a fucking beautiful butterfly and learn to love yourself without...

a penis. I love that. I love that. You're a hundred percent right. 100%. I think that's where I'm, I think that's where I'm headed. Like I could feel it. Like I feel good things, but it's turned 26 this month and I just want to focus on myself this whole year of being 26. I promise you, I spent my entire twenties and thirties, half of my thirties fucking chasing men and it got me fucking nowhere. It got me in a domestic violence relationship where I could have died in a couple of situations. It got me

becoming a drug addict. I was addicted to pills and cocaine was my favorite and drinking. And I mean, we look back at pictures from fucking seven years ago and I look fucking 10 years older back then than I do now. And it's like,

It's just crazy when you really just get rid of all the bullshit and you figure out like, where is this coming from? Why am I attracted to this certain type of person? You know, when I got with my husband, he was not my type, completely different human than I've ever been with. And it, he was the best thing that could have ever happened to me, you know? And did you meet him? I met Jay in 2015. Oh, I love that. Yeah. I met him in 2015 and then we ended up being together in 2016 after my abusive ex went to prison. Um,

And I just, you know, if it wasn't for my husband, you know, I would not be where I am today. And I am fine saying that because he really made me want to level up and be a better woman. So if you have to have a penis around, find somebody who pushes you to be a better woman and doesn't try to bring you down. I want to attract that. Like, I want that to just come to me. I'm tired of chasing it. Like, I just want whatever's for me to just find me while I'm working on myself.

I promise you it will come because I was exactly where you were. I was, I had just got out of an abusive relationship. I was tired. I was like, I don't care. I don't want to be with anybody. I just want to fucking be me. And then here comes jelly roll, you know, and just like, it sweeps me off my feet unexpectedly. And I think when you finally get really to that place, the universe will do it in a time that,

is your time, you know? And even if it takes fucking months, just focus on yourself because you literally have the world at your hands right now. You have an online presence where you have people's attention. That is not fucking easy to do. People think that it's so easy to do and that it's like, Oh, I can get online. I can make content. No, you can't. You have to be charismatic and you have to have a certain thing about you and you have that dude. And it's like, why not fucking quadruple that right now while you can, right?

You know, you have the world that you're the world is your oyster and I'm done lecturing you. No, I love that. I actually need to hear stuff like that because no one's telling me that. I've been waiting to get you here because I'm just like, man, I just have been wanting to give you the biggest hug and just let you know, like, hey, there are people in the world that love you. And I know that it can be overshadowed by all the fucking hate that's online, because trust me, I get it, too. Motherfuckers have tried to cancel me every other fucking day. But it's just like you have to know that the love outweighs the hate always.

um so speaking of leveling up you have some roach hair for me to look at yes can we look at it and then who's this over here john this is my manager john john come on in john go ahead john give me a cough i may yeah you're good buddy i'm literally over here petting chachi and his hair keeps going in my throat dude i'm like coughing thank you john

Okay, so... So what do we got? Well, this is just... And I love that you're doing this because this is a start. This is just one of the first pieces that we made so far, but we're going to make different ones. But it's cute. This is just the first...

yeah do it like a you know i love it so cute i love it i love it it's for you and then we yay i'll wear it on tour i'll make it a crop top awesome okay and then we have this i had made a hot sauce too yeah for you it's um my husband loves hot sauce okay perfect so i'm gonna give you one too and you want to yeah we'll do a review online okay awesome please yeah yeah all right so what made you want to do a hot sauce well it was his idea we need to get some toxic outfits like this yeah so

come over here, John. Oh, wait, does he have a mic over there? Yeah. Trade. We'll trade. Sorry. We didn't know you were going to talk or we would have put you guys next to each other. I love, yeah, he's awesome. These. So what was your question? Uh, well, what, what,

Can we get some toxic pieces like this? I think these would fucking sell. So what we brought was a hoodie. We did the first run of samples before we came up here and we kind of rushed them just to have something ready to gift you guys. But we're doing like a full spread. We have like 12 to 15 pieces we're going to drop. So we have like a full outfit, matching sweatpants, matching hoodie. We have two different crop top designs we're dropping. Cool. Like we have three different hot sauce flavors.

that we're dropping as well why did we decide to get into hot sauce well i think it's pretty cool and i love hot sauce yeah well i was spitballing ideas with her and we thought it was like trendy and a little different for like at least her community yeah i'm seeing like a lot of like bands in like the rock industry um drop different hot sauces and that's kind of where it was inspired but uh but like in her world i don't really see anybody doing it right so yeah no i thought it was different that's why i was like where did it come from i love that one more thing um

most of the designs were dropping caters to like all of her females audience and

And there's really nothing to cater to the males. So this is like another reason why. You need to put toxic on a shirt for the males. Oh yeah, we have that as well. Yeah, the dudes will wear the fuck out of you on their shirts. Yeah, my person, like my little character is me, but it's animated. It's like a little anime. Yeah, I love that. I'll put my glasses on and look at it whenever we're done. Where can people go to buy this? Is it launched yet or is it still? So we're thinking about launching like within the next month. Okay. We're going to have...

Like a web store. And then we're going to also drop it on the TikTok shop. Okay, perfect. So no, we're not going to announce a website today. We don't have it yet. I'm still working on it. Okay, gotcha. I'm just happy that you're doing this because this is a step in the right direction of doing your own shit. And it's going to make you feel so good. I already feel good. I'm so happy.

happy. Literally when you start getting those sales coming into and you see people repping your shit, dude, it's a whole different feeling and it's going to turn you into, you're going to be like motherfuckers. Now what? You're going to have to level up to come and fucking even talk to me. So I'm trying to become less accessible to like, I'm trying to get away from that community that I'm in on live. Like there's people on there that don't even fucking deserve a platform and they're just on there. And I don't want to associate with it. I want to

Not associate with him no more. Yeah. No, I love that. And I'm really proud of you for even just...

coming here today and telling your story and speaking your truth and just, I love you. And if you ever need anything, I'm always here for you. Okay. Thank you so much. It was a freaking, I'm so happy that you let me come on here. I'm so excited and I love you and you're beautiful. Dude, I'm definitely in your corner and I'm rooting for you. And when you buy it, when you drop some merch, I'll go on the website and I'll buy some too. And I'll wear it. Yeah, for sure. Why don't you shout out where people can find you online? Um,

You can find me on TikTok at Toxic Virgo. It's T-O-X-I-C-V-I-R-G-O. And then my Instagram is Toxic Fairy, T-O-X-I-I-C-F-A-I-I-R-Y. Yay. And I have OnlyFans.

Oh, yes. Shout out. How's the OnlyFans doing? Hold on. We didn't even talk about this. Let's talk about the moneymaker. Oh. Because you know I support my sex work sisters. Yeah. I'm doing really good on OnlyFans. I just need to take it a little bit more seriously because I haven't really taken it... I mean, I've been taking it serious, but the last time I really took it serious was when I linked with Kayla and then we collabed on there. So, yeah, I have that on there. But that's the last time. Are you and Kayla friends now? Or would you consider you guys friends? We're not friends, but she thinks...

Everyone in the fucking world thinks I have a problem with her. And everyone in the fucking world thinks I don't like her and she thinks I don't like her. I don't give a fuck. You're going to pay me to give a fuck, to hate her. I don't hate her. I'm happy for her. Congratulations on everything. I just don't hate her. Do I like her? I don't not like her. I'm not friends with her, but I don't have a problem with her at all. Not one ounce in my heart looks at her and I'm like, with any hate, I don't hate her.

Like that's where people have me fucked up. I don't hate her. Well, you guys are going to have to raise these babies together too. So, I mean, eventually I think that what isn't a friendship will become a mutual respect of just being baby mamas together. You know, I think once her and Alex are done, you guys will be able to really have a friendship, you know, if she wants to, it doesn't change anything, you know, for in my life. But if she needs somebody like, I don't know, you feel me? Like, I don't hate anyone. I want my daughter to be involved in,

in her son's life. Like I would never like want anything more than that. Like, I did see that Kalia was at the, um, the gender reveal. Yeah. And I thought that was really big of you and sweet. Of course. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for coming on toxic. I'm so happy that you were here and you're going to come back and visit me whenever you blow up even more and level up even more. Okay. I love you so much. We can come and just be like brag and just be like, look now what bitches. I love that so much. Thank you so much. I'm going to send you the link to these paintings.

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