Sofia Franklyn: Souls and Holes
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We have somebody who I have followed for a very long time. I've seen her go through a lot of shit and I've seen her come out on top like the butterfly that she is. Mrs. Sophia Franklin. How are you doing, baby? Hi. Thank you so much for having me. This place is amazing and I'm so excited to be here. Dude, I...

You know, I think everybody knows who you are just because of the whole debacle that happened. And I feel like everybody focuses on that. And with this podcast today, I kind of want to get to know you. You know, like I want to know like where you grew up. I want to know like how bad you were as a child. I want to talk about like traumatic shit you've been through. So is that okay with you? 1000%. Actually, that's like someone asking me to talk about my traumatic childhood is way better than like,

someone asking about the traumatic shit that happened with my old show. So it's amazing. Yeah, we'll get into that. And for those of you who don't know who Sophia is, she used to be one half of Call Her Daddy. Why don't you tell people a little bit about it and then we'll get into more of it later. So I was part of the podcast Call Her Daddy podcast.

I did it for like two-ish years. And then I had a very, very public kind of drama happen. Breakup. It was almost like a breakup. Right. With my co-hosts.

And with the business and the company that we were doing the podcast under. And again, very public. New York Times reported on it. It was a big deal. And then I ventured off and I started Sophia with an F, which is my podcast now. Everyone go listen.

but great podcast is one of the podcasts I listen to really oh my god that means the world to me um but that's like basically it in a nutshell I mean so where did you grow up where where was um baby Sophia

Utah. Okay, so you are from Utah. Mm-hmm. So is that considered West Coast? Because I'm a West Coast girl. I'm from Vegas. So is Utah considered West Coast? It's not considered West Coast, no. It's a very interesting place to grow up. I would go to Vegas all the time, by the way. Yeah. That was like where I would go with my fake ID growing up. It's crazy because I was the opposite. For church trips, I always went to fucking Utah. Yeah.

So we were living parallel lives. Right. Were you raised LDS? No, but I was raised strict Southern Pentecostal, which is just like fucking being Mormons. Okay. Except we don't like baptize the dead and shit or whatever it is. Right. No offense to the Mormons out there that do baptize the dead, but...

No, I talk about... So it's kind of funny. I went to private Catholic school, but my mom was Mormon, LDS. She's not anymore. And...

And then. How does that work out? You're Mormon, but end up in Catholic school. Right. Was it just like they were kind of like searching for something to believe in or it was the only school that they could get you in? So I think my mom wanted me to get a better education. And I'm using quotation marks because she thought, OK, private school means better education. No, it doesn't. Mm hmm.

I went to private school myself too. Okay. I was so bad. I was horrible. I was the worst. I was a terrible human. Yeah, I was too. And I think the kids in private school tended to be way crazier and way worse than the kids in public school. Oh yeah, absolutely. You know? I agree. So I went to, yeah, private Catholic school. So I think it was just for the better education and then

I think the Mormon culture and just like you said, I'm not shitting on LDS or the faith at all because there's some incredible parts to it. Absolutely. But there's like a certain culture in Utah that

Where it's very like clicky and very judgmental. And my mom's from Argentina. So she was a Mormon in Argentina. And she said the culture moving to the United States within that religion was just crazy.

Wow. Yeah.

Like, that's why I always tell everybody I'm spiritual. I'm not religious because I feel like when you tell people you're religious, they automatically think you're a Bible thumper. They automatically are like, oh my gosh, she's going to shove her beliefs down my throat. But when you say you're spiritual, people are like, oh, it's kind of like riding the wave. It's a vibe, you know? Yeah. It sucks that that's how religion is though, you know? And I feel like that makes us grow up with so much shame, feeling like we're being judged constantly by adults. Yeah.

So, I mean, I still, to this day, I mean, you and I talk about sex openly. To this day, I still will have those moments where I'm like, ooh, am I, like, taking it too far? Like, talking about a blowjob, was that a little too much? Religious trauma. Right. I do talk about that a lot on the podcast. A lot of people don't realize there is trauma from...

religion. Like you grow up literally, I have fucking panic attacks and anxiety and fucking mental health issues because I live, I lived in a constant state of fight or flight because when I was growing up, I was told you're going to go to hell if you do this, if you fucking sit the wrong way, if you fucking wear a skirt,

you know, that's too short, you're going to go to hell. And they don't understand that as a child, that fucking really ingrains fear in you. Right. And you're subconscious, right? When you just mentioned the skirt, I'm thinking about when I went to the private Catholic school, high school, they would go around measuring the,

your skirt, your kneecap, right? Yep. To make sure it wasn't too short. And it seems kind of harmless and it just seems like, you know, a rule at the school. But if you really think about it, like that shit follows you, right? And you're like conscious in a weird way. Oh yeah. Even now, if my shorts are too short, I'll tie a flannel around my waist because it's

Like you just raised and not have your ass cheeks fucking hanging out, you know, like it really does stick with you. So growing up in such a religious background and scenario, of course, I'm sure that probably caused you to rebel a little bit. I know. I remember, I think that your mugshot went fucking viral, right? This is like what, 2018, 2019 that your mugshot went viral. Let's talk about little hood rat. Yeah.

I'm like being witch mugshot because I have a few. Do you really? Oh, that is hilarious. Yeah, I was pretty out of control. I don't know. When did that start? I want to say...

It probably started high school. Okay. But I mean, I was always pretty outspoken and like the class clown in middle school. And I was a little bit raunchier. And I really could not tell you why. I have no idea. I just was like that. Yeah. And then high school, 15, I think, is when I had my first draft.

like my first taste of alcohol. What was the first thing you ever drank? Oh, oh my God. It was my mom's alcohol. And it was like, it wasn't even tea. It wasn't even like straight vodka or anything. It was like orange liqueur. Oh. Like that 15% bullshit you add to a drink, you know? Cough syrup. Right. But I made sure to drink enough of it. To get lit. Yeah. Mine was Cisco and old E. What the hell is that? Girl, lit.

that's a whole nother podcast. So back in the day, if I can, if you were raised in the ghetto, you fucking drank fucking Cisco, which is like a liqueur, but it's like strawberry flavored. Okay. And then old English, which is like forties of old English. Okay. Okay. Old English. I know Cisco. I'm thinking about like the fucking oil that you fry shit in. No, no, no. That's Crisco. Oh, welcome to dumb blonde. Sophia.

I love that. You can get drunk off that shit. That's not even dumb blonde. That's like kind of a smart move. Yeah, no, I love that. No, so Cisco is pretty much like cough syrup too. It's just, it's fucking disgusting. I don't even know how people drink that shit. It's like Mad Dog 2020. Do you know what Mad Dog 2020? No. All right, nevermind. Moving on. She's like, no bitch, you're way older than I am. So high school, yeah, I,

Started to get in a lot of trouble, but it was weird because I swear to God all the kids in high school were getting in trouble, but I you always got caught Yeah, was that your situation because that was mine? Yeah, everybody would fuck up and I was the one who got the blame, right? I yeah, actually I would get caught for fucking everything. I was very reckless, but I mean I started selling drugs when I was 17. How did you get into selling drugs? I

well i think it started with taking them yeah when did you try your first drug oh that's it so i started with smoking weed it's always the gateway right it's like it's the gateway drug they weren't lying it really is remember dare dare to keep your kids off drugs were you around for that no it's probably no i was oh were you okay 100 um

I was dating, I think I was a freshman. I was dating a senior, of course. Oh yeah, me too. Right? Always. Now I like him young. It's weird. Me too. I love him young. Oh my God, we did a little like flip-flop. I'm the exact same. Give me a cabana boy any day. I'm ready. 25 and...

No, I'm just kidding. Not below. Don't come for me. No, mine's 27 right now. And it's like, yeah, baby, I'm into it. Um, but he would smoke a bunch of weed. So I started smoking weed. And then I don't know how that progressed to like trying Coke and oxys and all of that shit. But I think what happened is I started to have friends ask me for it. Um,

And so I would be facilitating, right? I would be like, okay, I can get it for you, giving it to them. And then I had a light bulb moment where I was like, wait, why am I putting in all of this time and effort and not making money off of this? Because you're a hustler. Right? So... It's either in you or it's not. Exactly. Exactly.

And as a middleman, I was like, I'm going to, you know, make a little bit of money off this. So I would start up charging or I would like take a little scoop to myself, you know, like that type of shit. Yeah. And that's kind of how it started. I love that. I didn't sell drugs. I just did them all. Did you ever did you ever become an addict in the process? Was it like an issue that you really had to like battle?

Shockingly, no. Good. I, yeah, I mean, there was like a moment where I was smoking Oxycontin for, I don't know, like a year in high school. Yeah. And I just quickly was like, I'm over that, coke over that, which I'm very, very lucky because for a lot of people, that's not how it works. Yeah. Alcohol is a different story. I like walked in here with a white claw. But as far as, I mean, alcohol is a drug, but as far as like...

Drugs like that. Yeah. No, I'm pretty good. Yay. So was that convincing? Yeah. I'm pretty good right now, I think. Swigs the white cloth. Ha ha ha.

So where did you get your first mugshot? Because you said you have a few. So where did the arrests come in? So luckily, I never got caught selling drugs ever. Good. Thank God. Utah, again, there's very, very strict. Not that many people are getting fucked up drunk because there's so many LDS people.

I was arrested, I think, three times between the ages of 18 and... I'm going to say 17 and 21, probably. All for underage drinking. So basically, all of them were just me going out, getting blackout drunk, and having a fake ID. And then, there you go. There's my mugshot. That's got to be some fucking Utah shit. Because growing up in Vegas...

fucking underage drinking is like an everyday thing. Right. I don't think I've ever met anybody who's been arrested for underage drinking besides you now. That is what everyone tells me. And I'm like, I have three arrests for that. You poor baby. Right. To the point that I was, you know, there's a whole drunk tank, which I went to. And then there's actually being arrested and like

Put in an orange jumpsuit in jail That happened to me like my third time Getting arrested for underage drinking That's crazy It's almost like they were just trying to prove a point with you Right? Yeah I mean I was in there And there were girls telling me like Oh yeah like I'm in here Because I like domestic abuse And like really really intense shit And I'm like

I am 19 and I drink alcohol. Can I please get out of here? Oh, you poor baby. So after your arrest and did you graduate high school? Yes. Okay, good. So I didn't. I did not. I was such a party animal. I just got my good enough diploma. So getting out of high school, what does Sophia do next?

Yeah. So I wasn't done being a degenerate after high school. We love degenerates. I went to a college in San Francisco. I didn't get kicked out, but my mom basically was like, get the fuck home. I'm not going to help you go to college if you're out here doing this shit. I got in trouble for like just partying, drinking shit in California. Right. I mean, you're just being a kid. That's what you're supposed to do. I'm going to tell the Utah police that.

And then I came back to Utah. I actually graduated from the University of Utah in economics. Yay. Started working in finance. So somewhere around there, I got my shit together. Kind of. Yeah. I mean, do we even have our shit together? I mean, I think we're all fucking still searching. Yeah. Okay, good. Trying to figure it out. Right. I'm like, I don't have my shit together, but I got it a little bit more together. And then I

I started working in finance, then moved to New York from Utah, which was a huge move. Then started the Call Her Daddy podcast. Then all that shit happened. And now Sophia Dana. Right. Let's rewind a little bit because you did say that you don't mind talking about your childhood traumas. How is your relationship with your parents like now?

Is dad around or is it just mom or how's that? Dad not around. My mom, I was raised by a single mom. She is my best friend. Like we are so, so close. Go mom, go. Right. My biological dad, not in the picture. He, I've met him twice.

My mom kind of gave me that option to meet him when I was in high school, actually. And I met him and then we didn't really speak. And then a few years later, I met him again and then we didn't really speak. So, I mean, daddy issues, abandonment issues, definitely there.

How ironic that you would have a podcast called Call Her Daddy, too. Right? Right? I always thought about that, too. We all have daddy. We have daddy and mommy issues, so. Well, and that's the thing is people assume daddy issues means you didn't have a dad. Right. That's not the case. I mean, I would say 90% of people have some type of daddy or mommy issue. Oh, yeah. That's just how it is. Yeah. Right? You can have both easily. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's my biological dad and then who I refer to as my dad. I mean, technically he's my stepdad, but he came into the picture when I was six and amazing guy, great guy. There was definitely some substance abuse shit happening. So on his part are both parents on his part. Yeah. Kind of in and out of rehab. Yeah.

And I mean, I don't really know your story, but there's more that comes with that, obviously. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, that was my childhood. But when I say that, at the same time, my mom was so strong. Yeah.

And such a good single parent that I don't necessarily look back and think, oh my God, I'm so fucked up or I was doing all of this shit because of how I was raised. You know what I mean? No, that's good because there's a lot of kids that will be like, oh my God, my stepdad was...

you know, an addict and it's affected me so much. And I think that's really cool that you were able to take that situation and still see the silver lining, you know, and see instead of taking the negative and you looked at your mom and you were like, God, what a pillar of strength, you know, which a lot of kids won't do that. I was, I fucking had to have a talk with our daughter last night and she's 14. So everything is fucking emotional. I told my husband, I was like, you know, I'm going to get blamed for all of her fucking trauma. Right.

When she grows up, she's going to be like that fucking bitch fucking traumatized me, you know, because I feel like step parents always get such a bad rap, you know? So I think it's really cool that you were able to look at it with rose colored glasses. Yeah. And I think it's a testament to a lot of my success. You know, I think if I didn't go through a lot of that shit, maybe it wouldn't have made me less or more successful. But I think I would.

have this personality trait where I'm very like in tune. I'm very observative. Like it made me who I am, which has led to my success. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, you started selling drugs in high school, so obviously you've got a, you know, a great mind to hustle and to,

Not be a victim. Yeah. Which a lot of people do fall into that. Oh, what was me? This is I was this happened to me. So I'm going to be this way. Whereas, you know, there's people like us who are just like, you know, fuck that this happened to us and we're going to just fucking keep on trucking. One hundred percent. Yeah. So I think that's awesome. So 19, you moved to New York.

No. 20. I summed up my life story in like two seconds. You're like, how'd you skip 10 years? No, so I graduated college. And then... We stan a smart cookie, by the way. We what? We stan a smart cookie. Thank you so much. You're welcome. You're a queen. So graduated college, worked in finance, moved to New York, I want to say...

23, 24 years old. Why did you choose finance? That shit is so hard. Trust me. God, you got to be really fucking smart to do that shit. I, mm,

No, not really. No, I mean, I'm dead ass. Yeah, I'm smart. I mean, to play with numbers and people's money all day, like that's got to be. Yeah. So I majored in finance or in economics. Okay. I shouldn't have. I had no business majoring that. I didn't like it. I didn't care for it. I wasn't that good at it. But what I was really good at was English and writing and shit like that. And I thought to myself, there's no fucking money in this.

at all right so force yourself to do something where you know money is so I forced myself to major in economics then got a job at like a top five finance firm I didn't have like a high level job by any means right but still you're doing your dog puzzle right right and it's better than me I was spinning around a pole I went the complete

The complete opposite. I was like, easy money, fuck yeah. You know what? You were probably making quadruple what I was making. So I think that was the smart fucking move. You know, if I could ever go back and change career paths, I probably wouldn't. And I'm like the worst person to ever represent the adult industry because everybody's like, oh, woe is me. I would never do it. And I'm like, nope, I would do it again.

But if I could ever go back, I would definitely have tried to live that college life because I feel like I miss that. You know, like I missed being able to be a kid and just fucking fuck up and get arrested for fucking weird shit, you know? Right. Weird shit that nobody else gets arrested for. No, I know. And I didn't really have the full college experience. Oh, you.

You can hear in my voice, I'm 100% the type of girl. I should have been in a sorority. Yeah. It's like you can just tell, you know? So I didn't have that full experience, but started working in finance. And then I went through a super bad breakup with my boyfriend at the time. And he was a piece of shit. And that's like a whole different story. But... Was he abusive? He was. Yeah. Was it a domestic violence relationship? Yeah. Yeah.

I love how you say yeah. I don't know. Yes. I would say it was abusive. I don't think it was...

at the level that a lot of women experience it. But don't minimize the trauma that you had. Right. I think us as women, we always try to compare our stories to other people and, you know, abuse is abuse. So it's true. Whether it's verbal, mental, physical, to me, verbal and mental abuse is way worse than physical. Punch me in my fucking face. Yep. But don't fucking play mind games with me. Cause I will turn into fucking what's that dude's name? The fucking, the ringmaster guy. Yeah.

from fucking saw. I'll fucking turn into that guy. Like, don't fuck with me. So yeah, don't minimize your trauma because it's real. I need to get used to not doing that. Yes, I would say it was definitely an abusive relationship and yeah,

Again, the silver lining, I use that to be like, I'm getting the fuck out of Utah. I'm going to New York and I'm going to figure it out from there. I love that for you. What is it like coming from, you know, because Utah is huge, but it's not New York, you know, like it's a completely fucking different place.

I guess you could say. What is your first days, your first week in New York? What is that like for you? Paint us that picture. Holy shit. I'm like so excited you're asking me this question because the first six months living in New York were the most terrifying, crazy,

uh self-growth period I've ever had in my entire life I go from Utah living with my family very sheltered very conservative to you are completely alone in New York I got this studio it was like 1800 a month which is fucking expensive but it was like a shoebox um

mattress on the floor right now nowadays if you can find anything for 1800 new york i know you can't yeah but um it was a shoebox mattress on the floor and i was completely alone and it was fucking crazy it was really really scary um why did you pick new york you just looked at a map and you're like fuck it i'm going to new york

So my aunt, who's kind of like my second mom, she lives in New York part-time. Gotcha. And so I had been there quite a few times and she was part of the reason. And I think...

I think a lot of girls especially grow up with watching Sex and the City in New York and, you know, the hustle and bustle and the fashion and all that shit. They make it look so beautiful on Sex and the City. Right? It's like just... It's so, like, pleasant, you know? I know. And then you go there and you're like, wah, wah, wah. Like, end up in the Bronx somewhere, which I like the Bronx. I don't mind. Or no, Brooklyn. Brooklyn. I like Brooklyn. No, Sex and the City, that show is... You watch it and you want to move to New York so bad and you get there and it's like...

Yeah, some of this is real. A lot of it is not real. It's like a fucking highlight reel of New York, obviously. Were the people just like completely different? Like...

Like, did anybody take advantage of you? Like, how was that? No, actually. And I think, you know, I grew up in Utah, which is so... It's such a bubble and so conservative and etc. But I was dealing drugs. I was getting in trouble in Utah. I was like, bitch, I'm a gangster. New York got shit on me. I'm from fucking Utah, okay? Have you guys in New York heard of that place? Right. But I...

I had a lot of experience going into New York, you know? I wasn't... I was sheltered, but again, like my upbringing and everything, it wasn't like I was thrown into New York like some country girl that had... Yeah, some make-mild. Exactly. And you're a tough cookie too. I can definitely read that from you, so you're not going to take shit from anybody. Right. I love that for you. Yeah. So you're in New York. You've been there for six months. What happens after that? So six months into it...

Those six months were so fucking wild. I was like burnt down the apartment complex on accident. How? I left the stove on, which in New York is a big no-no. Oh, no. Is it gas or electric? The gas. Okay. And yeah, there was, it was a whole fucking thing.

Cheers to living on your own. I did that one time. I left eggs boiling and left. I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. Came home. My entire fucking place was filled with smoke and the eggs were like on fire in the pan, but I didn't burn the place down. Oh my God. I think that's like whenever you're living on your own, you have to like go through those lessons to just learn. You do, right? Oh my God. And this is such a side note tangent. You're gonna be like, what the fuck?

I remember leaving my studio and I left a bunch of lemons and oranges in the garbage. And when I came back to my studio after like my trip, I opened the garbage can. It was moving. Oh.

and I was like wait why does my garbage can look like it's moving maggots like thousands of them so I chucked my garbage can out the window it was like seven stories high I could have absolutely killed someone god can you imagine walking below that that day just like in like it's raining maggots and you're like no and you're already having a fucked up day god why why is this

is this happening to me? I would freak out. I'd be like, this is a sign. I'm fucking leaving the city. Well, and a big ass fucking garbage can. Like I could have been so sued and so fucked. But no, it was really crazy. And then, yeah, about six months to a year, I

I didn't really have friends, right? I didn't know anyone there. But I started meeting people and that's when I was introduced to the co-host that I had on Call Her Daddy. Are we allowed to say her name or not? Yeah, Alex Cooper. That's when I met her. She was looking for a place. I was looking for a place. And this girl I'd met in like a Uber pool is the one that connected us. It's so crazy and random. Yeah.

And this is destiny. Right. It's part of your journey. One hundred percent. And then the day I met her, we signed a lease on an apartment. We don't even know each other. And then, yeah, you guys needed each other in that moment, you know. And I think this is one thing that people don't understand, because, you know, as we get into the story, you know,

playing devil's advocate here you guys had a genuine friendship there was a love there between you guys and i'm sure she misses you like crazy because when you meet somebody and you sign a lease with them on the first fucking day there's i don't want to say chemistry because it makes you guys sound like no there was chemistry but it's like there that's a bond where you just reckon it's like a soul recognition where you're like hey where you been all my life i've been looking for you let's fucking be buddies and do this you know yeah you know part of me i'm

And I'm just, I'm too honest for my own good. A part of me sometimes thinks that. A part of me sometimes wonders. I think there's certain people that maybe you think they're making that connection or they feel that way, but they're not. Which is sometimes like how I look back on the relationship. I don't know if she was ever...

If she ever felt it the same way I... Loved you the way that you loved her. Yeah. So, and I don't know. And I probably will never know. But there was a reason we met. And we clicked like that. So, you guys signed a lease and you moved in together. What happens from there? So, I'm still working in finance. She was working for a magazine. She got laid off.

Um, she had always wanted to be in entertainment in some way and be famous in some way. People like that scare me. Yeah. Any, and this isn't us talking shit. It's just really people who want to be famous so bad that they're willing to step on anybody and do anything to get there. Terrifying. It's scary. You know, and you can tell when people are like that and when they're

not, you know, like I, the shit that we've accumulated, I, I don't even like going in public. Like I hate it, you know, like when people are like, you know, Oh, it's gotta be so cool to be in your position. No, it's not because there's backlash and there's so much, there's so much that comes with the notoriety is a negative also, you know? So yeah.

Just knowing that somebody is willing to, you know, be like that is kind of scary. Well, right. Someone willing to do whatever step over anyone to get there. I think you and I are very similar. I can just feel it where...

We have such public jobs, but I think we're very private at the end of the day. Like I get that vibe. Absolutely. Yeah. You can ask my team. I don't go anywhere unless it's scheduled and I know what's happening. Right. Right. Right. No surprises over here. Yeah. I feel the exact same way. And yeah,

I never grew up being like I want to be famous or in the limelight I mean I'm sure when I was younger like oh my god everybody goes through that I want to be Britney Spears yeah exactly Christina Aguilera yeah exactly um but that that was very clear that that was her goal and uh we did have chemistry like how you mentioned earlier and we went to South by Southwest and

And I remember we were at this bar and we were very, I think me more so, very raunchy, very explicit. I was talking about like getting DP'd or some shit. Just like open. It's my kind of girl right here. I was very open about it. And by the end of the night, we had like a group of people around us just being like, what the fuck? Like you guys are so funny. And then we had the opportunity to start a podcast. Yeah.

Do you feel like she fed off of you, like your energy? Yes, 100%. But I fed off hers as well. We were very good that way. Yin and yang at the time. 100%. How did the opportunity for the podcast present itself? Because not everybody gets offered a fucking podcast with Barstool. Right. So she had a friend who...

had just started a podcast company it was a startup that is long gone now yeah there's a bunch of like trust fund kids that just had a shit ton of money and had no idea what they were doing but they were like we have this amazing studio that costs like you know however much yeah um people don't realize how much goes into podcasting so much time effort if i can you don't get paid for a while right like you have to really build

To fucking be successful at it. 100%. Which my story was a little bit different. I think I'm definitely like the outlier when it comes to that because we recorded...

I think three episodes and threw that shit on social media and had Barstool come and offer us a job just after like three episodes that we put out. So, okay, you guys got offered the podcast first or you guys started a podcast before Barstool offered? So we started a YouTube channel. Okay. And if I,

If I had to fucking see that footage right now, I would jump through this window and disappear. Don't you hate it? I have shit on my YouTube channel from like years ago and I'm like, no. And there's no point in deleting it because it like once it's there, it's there. It's part of your journey. Right. Yeah. And somebody likes it.

Somebody somewhere likes it, you know? Right. But we started a YouTube channel and then this guy that had the podcast company, he came to us and said, you guys are interesting, two hot girls, funny. Why don't you try it?

Was the podcast always titled Call Her Daddy? No. Okay. What was your first name? I'm trying to think of what the YouTube channel was called or what we were trying to call it. I have no fucking clue. I can't remember. We'll have to come back to that. Yeah. I'll have to like do it. No. I'm like, I'll do a deep dive. I'm like, no, I won't be doing that. But we recorded three podcast episodes and

and put them on social media. Barstool reaches out and we leave that one company and go over to Barstool. Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. That's huge because Barstool is such a huge company. Right. Was that scary? Did you have to give up full control whenever you guys went over there? Like what was the deal? Did they just pretty much

consume everything that you guys did. Yeah. One, 100%. It was like, you're signing over the right to everything. It's like making a deal with the devil. Yeah, it really is. But from my perspective and where I was in my life, um,

I was recording that podcast after work. Like, after being at Morgan Stanley. Then I would go record it. So it was, like, fun for you. Yeah, it was just a hobby. It was, like, a fun thing. You guys had no idea you guys were about to change the world. I mean, at least I didn't. I had no clue. Also, they offered...

more money and I'm like wait I can just like talk on a microphone for an hour a week and make more obviously there's so much more that goes into podcasting but it was a no-brainer for me did you guys write all of your own material or from the beginning was that you guys doing it or did you guys have writers come in since Barstool took over that's a really good question so um

milf hunter who if people have listened to call her daddy or know me very well they know who that is he was uh one of alex's my co-hosts best friends like high school best friends

And he was behind the scenes for a lot of episodes, more so with her. I didn't really talk to him, but he's like a straight male and he would definitely give her a lot of her content. I would.

would do all of my own. Gotcha. Um, but, but he was, he was the only person that would help, but yeah, we, we did have help from him for sure. So you guys, um, you know, have this podcast and you guys, you know, record your first few episodes for Barstool. What happens from there? Because I remember when you guys burst on the scene, the way I found you guys was I was jogging one day and I never fucking listened to podcasts. It's not my thing. And somehow you guys popped up

in my, on my Apple thing. And I was like, you know what? I'll listen to it. I fucking two hours in, I was like, these bitches are fucking hilarious. Like this is so funny. And it was just something that nobody was doing at the time, you know? And it was very inspirational, which you guys started in 2018. My, I started my podcast in March of 2019 and,

So like, I would love to say that you, you know, I'm honored to say that you guys definitely inspired my journey with my podcast. Cause I was like, Oh, if these girls can get on here and tell their truth and you know, me being a hooker from Vegas, I'm like,

get on here and tell my truths too, you know? So it was very inspiring. And I just want to thank you guys for paving that way. Like you guys are just, I, you know, and I don't know Alex and you, but you know, we have to give credit where credit's due. You guys are both icons, you know, in your own right. Um, so what happens after you guys dropped those first few episodes with barstool? Yeah. Well, thank you. I mean, I'm so flattered cause I had no idea. And that, wow. Like I, that's fucking incredible. Um,

So we go over to Barstool and I would say within six months of being there, the shit just blew up. It was crazy. It was the number one podcast in the world. It was, I remember looking at the charts and it was like, you know, New York Times or New York Daily Mail, their shit. And then it was like, how to eat pussy by call her daddy, like, you know, right below it.

It just, it took over the world. It really did. And it was fucking wild, you know, because it happened really fast. How did that feel? Were you scared? Were you fucking like, fuck yeah, bring it on? Like...

I think I was like, fuck yeah, bring it on. Yeah. I don't think I was scared. When you're in it, it's so hard to process it. Exactly. People ask me that question. I'm like, when you're in it, you don't, you realize that it's becoming a big deal, but you don't really feel any different, if that makes sense. Right? People always think like, oh, once I get to the top or a certain destination or something, I'm going to feel completely different. You never really do. Nope.

You never really do. If anything, you feel worse sometimes. You're like, I'm not doing enough. Now what do I do? Yeah, right? You're like, how do I make this even better? Yeah. It's like, yeah. So you guys had a pretty good run. How long did the podcast go for? Oh, I want to say I think I did about 80 something episodes. So close to two years. Wow. Yeah. And then everything blew up and then I went out on my own. But yeah, it was about two years of my life.

So what happened? When did you start realizing that things were like, when did you realize that one, you probably realized you needed to get paid more money, right? Was that what happened? I don't know the full story. I've never really like tuned into what happened, but, um, you know, there comes a time where you have to kind of be like, okay, I need to reanalyze my contract or something like that because you guys were holding back.

Barstool together like you guys put Barstool on the map pretty much you know you know what I really appreciate you saying that because it's true a lot of women would not know who the fuck Barstool is if it wasn't for you guys exactly men too yeah yeah and and Barstool has like such a

crazy fan base that it was like barstool made this blah blah of course they contributed to the success of the show they produced it they didn't make it they didn't no and and i understood that very early on the marketing they gave us incredible amazing great but once we became so huge

I started to hang out with people that worked in entertainment and I was surrounded by people that understood the industry and we were going to be up for a contract negotiation. And after speaking to a lot of people, it was very, very clear that we were getting severely underpaid. Yeah. And when I say severely underpaid, it was like,

I think my salary was 70K. Wow. And we would get 2.5% off merch. Wow. And Barstool was bringing in. They were robbing you guys. They were bringing in like 11 million a year. Wow. Roughly. Wow. So when you look at those numbers. That like gives you goosebumps. Right. You know, you're building something that huge and they're giving you literally fucking shillings. Right. Exactly. Like thanks for being here. Right.

You guys are the brand. Thanks for being here. I love this. But I mean, the discrepancy between those two numbers is fucking crazy. Yeah. Not to mention the podcast was like,

my stories my personality very intimate details you know your life literally you guys were going out on dates coming home and fucking just burying your soul right yeah right so burying your holes souls and holes souls and holes baby both both baby sounds like a good episode for me

So, yeah, I mean, it came to our attention and both Alex and I were like, something drastic needs to change. So you and Alex were both on the same page at this time, point in time. Very much aligned. Yeah. Then where it switched is...

We were kind of planning on taking our show elsewhere. Not kind of. We were planning on taking it elsewhere. So you guys own the rights to it. Well, we didn't own the rights. Okay. But we could go start a podcast under a different name anywhere. Gotcha. And people would still follow you because it's you guys. Exactly. And it's like, what is the name? Right. You know, sometimes you have to look at that when it comes to like branding is...

Does the name matter or the person behind the podcast name? Right. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So we were planning on doing that. Then we had this infamous rooftop meeting with the owner barstool. I don't know if he still owns it, whatever founder. Dave. Oh, it is. Is he as much of an asshole in person as he is on? Disgusting. Oh, God. So that's not a shtick. It's not an online persona. No, he's he's.

a 40 year old frat bro yeah and gross love you but you're gross toodles but um we had this meeting and then after the meeting i remember very vividly she was like uh they're gonna give us a chance to get our intellectual property back at the end of a year let's take the deal

Which was very, to people listening, it sounds like, oh shit, you're going to get your intellectual property. Take that and run, obviously. Explain to people what intellectual property is in case people don't understand. So it's basically everything that you created, your ownership to that. So the name, the phrases, everything.

um the the merchandise right like we would come up with a phrase throw it on a t-shirt sell it i mean i think there was the i am unwell which i said in a podcast episode that hoodie sold over a million dollars like just that hoodie we're all unwell right we are perfect right perfect yeah right but now we are well yeah right we're on our way to being well yes we are well now we're healing growing and glowing yes um

So if you think about it that way, it's like, oh, that's a no brainer. Like stay and take that. I was thinking about it from a different perspective because of all of the deal points that came with getting the intellectual property at the end. A, I didn't trust him.

him and there was nothing in writing that was going to protect us and make sure that we got that did you guys have your own lawyers we did okay we did and they weren't helpful or where the fuck were they in all this so it's funny because after that meeting we called our attorney and told him about the conversation and even our attorney was like

Oh, that's it's like literally the same thing that they already suggested. So you girls should just keep with your same game plan, which is what that was the vibe I was on also. Right. So I don't really know why she did a complete flip flop. And I probably will never know. But probably because they offered her a deal out from under you. That's exactly what I think happened because.

I think it was a couple weeks later, Milf Hunter. People are like, what kind of true crime? Like how like crazy is this story? But Milf Hunter, who was helping her write shit. Her childhood friend. Yeah, her childhood friend, best friend. He reached out to me and was like,

She had fucked him already, by the way. Wow. Like she fucked him over and I saw that happen and I should have, you know, light bulb moment thought maybe something like that could happen to me. How did she fuck him over? Are we allowed to talk about it? Yeah, we can. I mean, basically he was writing a lot of her fucking material. I mean, to captions on her social media, to jokes she would say on the podcast, you

I always thought her humor was a bit masculine. Yeah. Yeah. So now it makes sense. Cause there was like a straight white guy behind it, like doing the whole thing. Um, and because she's completely fell off content wise. I'm not talking shit, but it's not like it was when you guys were together. Right. Which I've heard. I haven't listened, but I've heard that from a lot of people. Um, but she finally brought him on to work for us and get paid. Um,

And then really like tried to fire him and like get rid of him when really he was working for free for her for years. She just has no loyalty. No. That's a terrible trait to have, especially, I mean, I guess in the entertainment industry, she fits right in, but we're not here to bad mouth. We're just, Sophia's telling her side of the story. Yeah. You know,

We've all seen what happened. So it's yeah, it's OK for us to form opinions. Yeah, of course. And I'm learning. I kind of wish I was more like that. I wish I was a little more ruthless and I was willing to just like step over people sometimes. No, you're perfect the way you are and the reason why you have peace and are accomplishing stuff in life. You can she's probably going to, you know, she just signed a deal with like, what, 16 million with Spotify or something like that. Yeah.

where the podcast is has gone to shit yeah literally what they did so should i tell the barstool story

I've never told anybody this. When you guys were going through your split, they were telling people to send in their sizzle reels, a podcast to replace you guys. So we were like, you know what? Fuck it. We'll just send in a sizzle reel of everything that we've done. So we sent in a sizzle reel of my podcast and this was just in 2019, right? 2020. When did you guys split? 2020? Yeah.

2019. 2019, yeah. So it was in 2019. We sent them the sizzle reel. Literally everything we sent them in the sizzle reel, she's doing in her podcast now. Down to the games. Stop. Down to everything. Yeah. No way. They literally, I don't want to say stole our formula, but I mean, it's just so coincidental.

Like I'm talking like the games that she's playing with Haley Bieber, the fucking content that she shifted to just everything. Cause she was never about mental health and fucking playing games with her guests and stuff like that. So, wow. Yeah. So we, I was pissed when that happened, but I was like, you know what? Whatever. Fucking teach their own. I mean it again. And we can like move on. Yeah. I'm not talking shit. That is,

very very interesting uh it's not surprising right there wasn't i mean my shit like my jokes and my stories and shit were very authentic and me yeah hers was milf hunter's story so it makes sense that she took your shit and anything else she's seen that she could yeah you know so moving on from the breakup i know that that had to have been just

The way you handled it, like a lot of people are like, oh, Sophia took too long to speak out. And I honestly feel like you did it very G-like. Really? Yeah, I do. And I think I would have done the same thing because you didn't.

People who gaslight jump to tell their story first, you know, and that's kind of like what they did. They like tried to get damage control, whatever, whatever. And they got their story out there first. And then you just kind of sat back, you know, licked your wounds and then came back out. What were you feeling during that time? Like what was going on with Sophia during the breakup? Yeah. Yeah.

So you literally just kind of lost everything, right? Like, Oh, I mean, beyond I lost my, who I thought was my best friend. I lost my show, which was like my baby. I lost that platform to speak to my listeners directly. And I didn't, yeah, I had an Instagram following and whatever else, but I didn't have the same reach to talk to my listeners that I would have had. Right. If I still have the show, um,

And I had my ex-boss friend slash co-host and ex-boss teaming up, right? To like completely destroy me. Yeah. Which they had to do so that listeners would continue listening to the show and like it. Right. Because I had created a bond with them. I was 50% of the show and whatever else. Um,

How does that feel to have the world coming against you? Because I saw some of the stuff. I've always been a follower of you. So I just saw all the shit that you were having to deal with. And I just always was team Sophia. Like, I didn't know what was going. Yeah, I've never been team Alex ever. I've always just appreciated how you've handled things. I don't like people who talk a lot. She talks a lot, you know, so it's like.

I just kind of sat back and watched everything. But reading some of your comments like broke my heart because I was just like, God damn, this girl doesn't deserve this, you know? Yeah. So when you finally came out and spoke, I was like, go, bitch, go. Right. I mean, so excited. Getting that fucking first podcast episode of Sophia with an F out was...

I am not kidding. I think I weighed 90 pounds. I actually fainted the day before the episode went out because I was physically and mentally so not okay. You were just frail. Yeah. It was really crazy and having that many people involved in your business and believing something about you that isn't true. That don't even know what's going on. Right. Right.

Isn't it crazy how opinionated people on the internet are? It's disgusting. Do you know the people you're talking about? Do you actually know what went down? No. It's really crazy to me, but...

It was it was fucking crazy and traumatic. And did you stay in New York when? No, it was like, did you get a phone call that just said, hey, Alex has decided to sign a deal and you're not part of it? There was a lot of back and forth. Alex and I had stopped talking. Dave called me and he was like, hey, Alex came to me. She said because we weren't releasing episodes. Right.

uh he said alex came to me she said she wants to take the podcast by herself she doesn't want you to be a part of it wow i just desperately need to get the show back on air i don't care if it's you i don't care if it's her but she doesn't want to work with you um i'm gonna offer you your own podcast under barstool but just a new one and i was like fuck that no i'm not doing that shit

So that, yeah, I got that phone call. And that was crazy to hear. I was like, wait, there's no way she said that. Like, this is my sister. There's no way she said something like that. But there was a lot of back and forth. And then one day I woke up and he released an episode under Call Her Daddy, right? But it was him talking. And then she came out with a YouTube video just really like ripping me apart and my boyfriend at the time.

And how I dealt with it at that moment in time

There's like some PTSD again, silver lining. I'm so happy where I am now. And I'm, I'm grateful for like what happened, but I think I was very numb and I, I kind of blocked a bunch of shit out. Yeah. It's called like selective memory. Whenever you go through something super traumatic, you just kind of like have to like, it's like a daze. You're just like, you're here, lights are on, but nobody's home. And your body's doing it as a defense mechanism to protect you. Yes.

So that's kind of how it was. And then a couple months later, I was like, I need to get my voice out. And I released my first episode. So how did you come up with Sophia with an F? So... I love your set, by the way. The blue. Oh my God, thank you. Right? The baby blue. We are coming out with a new merch line that's going to be very baby blue centric. But...

I was I had so many different names I wanted to call it. And I was talking to my agent and I was talking to a bunch of people and they were like, just fuck it. Do Sophia with enough personal branding and come out of the woodworks as your fucking name and just go for it.

And that's kind of how it came to be. Made it easy for people to find you too. Right. Because you already are such a fucking household name that, you know, as soon as people see that pop up on fucking podcasts, they're like, oh, here we go. I know. Showtime. Here we go.

Yeah, I listened to your first episode and I was like, I was really proud of you. Thank you so much. I would again die if I had to hear that again because I was not okay. But there was a lot to get that out there. So thank you. But it probably was so fucking relieving and so therapeutic. It was. I've come to find out having my podcast has been so therapeutic, not only for the guests who come on, but for myself too. You know, like dealing, I battle, you know, a lot of mental health issues

stuff like, you know, anxiety. I do suffer from depression, stuff like that. And, you know, just kind of like, it's your own little world where people just love you. And it's like, it's like a pretty bubble, you know? And yeah, of course we have the haters, but we don't care about them, you know, like we have in our followers and our listeners become our family. Yeah. Everybody feels what you feel. If you're going through a hard time, they're going through a hard time, you know, and they lift you up when you need them and you lift them up and stuff like that.

So yeah, it's so true. There's something so intimate about podcasting. It's

It's just audio and you hearing someone. It's so different than even like a visual or something like that, you know? Absolutely, yeah. And you're talking for an hour more straight and you and I are very real and authentic. And so it's, yeah, I have, and I'm sure you do too, a very intimate relationship with your listeners. Yeah. So how is Sophia with NF doing? Is it like everything you've ever dreamed of? It is. It is. It's doing incredible. I...

love Sophia and F it's going to continue for years to come I plan on doing some other things I think there's going to be some live touring coming soon we should collab we're thinking about doing a live tour called well we were going to call it the horror tour but fucking Amy Schumer took the horror tour so now we have to think of something else we need to sue her yeah fucking Amy Schumer we know you're not a whore like us no we'll come up with something what was it we're going to bear holes

Holes and souls, baby. There we go. The holes and souls tour. We're going to fucking kill it. Yeah. No, my boy, Charlie classic. He's a comedian. Um, and he's always got these hot ass bitches around him, dude, all the fucking time. And they're always willing to like shove a fist in their butthole and stuff like that. So I've thought like, why don't we take this fucking three ring circus on

the road but I want to do like five major dates I don't want to do like a whole tour like my husband does because that's fucking brutal but I want to do like five major cities go and just fucking have a great time and just you know have a blast and do the tour and me too yeah and what a great way to like engage with the listeners that's not like over the internet you know yeah absolutely and they get to actually like touch you and be around

Yes. And they deserve that because they, you know, you guys support us so much. We love you so much. Yeah. So, Sophia with an F. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. I mean, there's just watching. You're like the comeback kid. Thank you so much. Yeah. I really appreciate that.

You need a shirt that says that. Comeback kid. The comeback kid. Comeback season. This was incredible. Thank you. Yeah, no. So I want, I had a couple people write in for some dating advice because I know you're like the queen of dating advice. Well, I don't know if it was all necessarily dating advice, but I have this thing that I do on my Instagram every Sunday. It's called Ask, Tell, Confess. I mean, I've had people confess murders. Like it's crazy. Girl, it gets nuts over there. Stop. But I've done it. You're like, I didn't.

read this I didn't see this no I post it and I'm like listen man as long you know like I don't want to know about this yeah so um what I did was I did ask tell confess and they kind of wrote in and so um I figured we'll just answer a couple questions together I love that all right cool uh Jean wrote I found out my hubby was texting prostitutes he swears he was doing it for a friend I roll

How do we feel about this? You know, I feel like guys always say it's for the friend. Why does your friend need to do it off your husband's phone? Get a burner phone. I have a story to tell. Please. Fucking. I was dating my ex, the abusive one. And we.

we were so often on all the time i would kick him out and go fucking party yeah you know it was just you have that passion though it's like you have the best sex ever and then you fucking just can't get along but anyways i was going through his phone one day he was in the shower and i looked in his trash and there's a video of this bitch twerking right and it's like it's on him and she's on a bed she pulls her she's naked so of course you know they're about to have sex or whatever and

But I can't see who the dude is, you know, but I can see that the camera's right here and there's no voice. He's not saying anything, but it's on his fucking phone, right? Right. This motherfucker told me it was his friend, Theo. Oh!

And it was such a mindfuck because I couldn't see who the dude was. And it's like a part of me wanted to believe him, but then a part of me didn't. So it was like I never really fully believed him, but I couldn't prove it, you know? Right. I hate that shit. I think that's kind of where she's at right now. It's like she can't prove it, but it's like you...

want to believe him but you don't want to believe him but you know you're probably never going to believe him and end up resenting him for it yeah that's a really good point i mean first of all to your abusive ex like if you're gonna throw it in the trash fucking delete it yeah how old are you delete the shit absolutely but i mean to her point it's if you can't 100 prove something but you're 99 sure go with that gut feeling go with the gut feeling but

I also at the same time think if you can't 100% prove something, just keep your eyes peeled. Yeah, because they'll fuck up again. They'll fuck up again. Absolutely. Very soon. They always tell on themselves. You know, he'll offer up the fucking the shit, the evidence eventually. Or text the girl. If she has the number, then I'm sure dude probably had to send her. Because I know whenever I was in the game, you ask for a picture and ID. Yeah.

So if she could text the girl and if the girl's cool, she might be like here, you know, you asked a picture and ID for what? So you're like, wait, send me your ID. Is my guy back in my ho days? Uh, if I can. So I used to be a really high price call girl in Vegas. And you know, you, you have these ads on eros.com. Shout out eros. You guys made me a hell of money. Um, fucking eros.

In order to get a date with you is what they would call it. You know, these guys would text you, but you're not going to just walk into a fucking hotel room and just be like, oh, hey, I'm here. You know, one, it could be cops. You could be fucking walking into the last day of your life. You never know.

So you always ask them, send me a picture of your ID and a picture of you holding up your ID. Because if a motherfucker has something to lose, they're not going to want to send you their ID. Or if they have bad intentions, they're not going to do that. So that was our way of like screening people.

Okay, that's really smart. And that way you have all their information and you can usually find their families online and Facebook like that and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. So I think if the girl is cool that he was texting, you should just message her because I did have a couple of wives who messaged me and I was like, yeah, girl, here you go. You know, like, I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm just doing my job here. Just trying to suck a dick for an outfit, you know? If it wasn't me, it was going to be someone else. I didn't know. All right. Next question is...

Do you think it's dumb to keep in contact with your ex? Me? I think it is.

I think the only reason why people keep in contact with their exes is because there's hope that either one, you can rekindle something or there's not, there hasn't been enough closure. I completely agree. And I've dated guys who wanted to still be friends with their ex girlfriends always ended up like they still liked them or they ended up hooking up or something. Yeah. And from my point of view, I have exes that were incredible, amazing people and I,

I can find more incredible, amazing people to be friends with. Absolutely. You know what I mean? You don't need an ex. You don't. That like played, it's played itself out. Obviously they're an ex for a reason. So keep them there. I totally agree. Unless you're trying to get back together with them. Yeah.

How do you feel about orgies? I know you're already about that life, but like several people. So my husband and I have an open relationship. Okay. It's not really open. It's more like, you know, my husband's a musician. So I know there's groupies that want to, you know, hook up with him. And if he tells me about it or I'm there, I'm all for it. But don't do something behind my back that a fucking girl can DM me about and I not know about. I don't like surprises. Yeah. My husband, on the other hand, is like, if you want to keep being a boy, I don't want to know about it. Just do it. You know, right. I feel like that.

pretty like common guys don't want to know girls do when it comes to an open relationship I just feel better if I know you know because I don't want to be blindsided by some fucking bitch being like oh hey I sucked your man off last night like oh yeah thanks you know right I'd rather watch a fucking sex tape than like you come up right and like try to tell me some shit right exactly but as far as orgies go I don't know that's a lot of bodily fluids for me I've never done

I don't know. I don't fucking know. I've done, I've done like several threesomes or threesomes. I don't think as a problem. No, I mean, is four people in orgy? She said like several. So I'm guessing like five or six. I just, I don't think, yeah, I would with the monkey pox and shit right now. I'm like,

I'm like, let's keep it like a little contained. Dude, we used to go to the swingers club in fucking Vegas all the time called the Red Rooster. And when I think of orgies, they have this thing called the pyramid of beds in there. And it's a room that you walk in and there's fucking just beds like literally in the shape of a pyramid that go up to like the ceiling. This girl was getting plowed by like 11 dudes. Like she literally, and it smelled. Oh, just like sex? It smelled like fermented lasagna. No!

Like, it was so bad. I was like, but we were all so in awe that all of us were, like, standing there with our hands over our mouths, fucking just trying to breathe and watch. Like, she had a dick in her ears. Stop. Nostrils. Oh, I thought they were running a train. No, every hole had a dick in it. Oh, no, every hole had a dick in it. It was crazy. I didn't understand what was going on, and we were just so fucking impressed, dare I say. Yeah. That fucking we didn't.

We didn't care about the smell. We just fucking were just like, what is happening here? But it was just too much. Well, do they all wear a condom? And how does that? I don't know. I just, I feel like. So we would go to the swingers clubs in Vegas because me and my girls would always go to bars. And like all the girls I hung out with were attractive. And we just hated getting fucking hit on by dudes. And they don't take no for a fucking answer. No. So we would hang out at the swingers clubs because they have rules there. Oh.

If you come up to a girl and they're like, hey, do you want to party? And you say no, they have to walk away or they'll get kicked out. Okay, so we should apply those rules to every nightclub. Yeah, for sure, right? Swingers are actually like really cool people. They're all a little fucking weird, but they're all really cool people. Just don't eat the buffet. Okay.

I fucking ate the buffet and got drugged at the fucking swingers club. I swear to God. Drugged from the buffet? The meatballs. The biscuits or what? It's the meatballs. No fucking way. Listen, I went there with my ex one time and fucking everything was fine. And I was just so fucking drunk. And I remember they had spaghetti and meatballs at the fucking swingers club.

And fucking I ate the spaghettis and meatballs and I fucking blacked out. Next thing you know, we are at my my ex's parents house passed out in his old room with Del Taco wrappers all around us. Dude, we fucking passed out like the bed is is this way. We passed out the opposite side of the bed laying back like this with the lights on completely nude with the door open.

Tell me that we didn't get drugged. It's not even like my drink I have to worry about. Like I can't eat a fucking buffet. Don't eat the meatballs at the swingers club. So anything unattended. Anything. Yeah. That you don't know where it came from. Don't fucking eat it. Holy shit. I guess our answer to that question is no. Yeah. So it's shockingly you.

we're not down with orgies, but basically everything else. Like we'll do, we'll do threesomes, but not orgies. We're not into that. All right. One more question. Or, uh, yeah. Well, two, has anyone ever came on your feet?

No. I mean, maybe on accident, but like not intentionally. Okay, how do you accidentally come on somebody's feet? I mean, if they're just standing over me like lose control of their penis. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotcha. That's hot. Never intentional though, have you? No, I've always thought that dudes that had foot fetishes were kind of weird. Yeah. Like I never understood whacking somebody off with my feet. But you've done it. I have. I mean, we all have. Yeah, we've all done it. We've all done it. Yeah. But it just feels a little like...

Neanderthal ish. You know, there's nothing sexy about cupping a dick with your feet. You literally feel like a monkey. It's kind of bizarre. Yeah. No, I've never really gotten into the whole foot fetish thing. No, I don't understand the foot fetish, although I think some guys are just they want everything to be freaky.

And it's like... They don't necessarily have a foot fetish. But it's like... Use your feet. Use whatever you have. I'm also into this. There's no fetish. Start my cum. Yeah. Just anything weird. Right? Like... Anything they're into. Like that I can kind of play with. Because it's like... You're a freak. Yeah. If you specifically like the feet...

our kinks don't really line up. Yeah. I don't understand. I don't understand people that are like into the arches and fucking just weird shit. And the used shoe. What is hot about that? Like who wants to see a scrumped foot? You know, like there's nothing hot about, there's nothing hot about that. All right. So last one, my husband's dick is small, but I still scream his, I, but I still scream every time he slides it in. Good girl.

At a girl. 100%. I mean, I don't know if that was a complaint or if that was more of her saying like, you know, I'm just still trying to make him feel good. Like she feels like a fraud. Yeah. And I mean, if you, if you make noises and make your husband feel great, you know, there's nothing he could do about his dick size. Right. So I think, right. In that instance, you should. Yeah. I think you're doing the right thing. Yeah. Definitely don't scream like, oh my God, you're so big. Yeah.

Because you know there's girls that think they should yell that and the guy's not even big. And then the guy is like, I know how big I am. And you're fucking lying. He's like, no, I have a micro dick bitch. Don't fucking pretend. Yeah, don't lie about the size. But you can scream and be like, oh my god, that feels good. I think our job as women is to make guys feel good as long as they're making us feel good.

You know, exactly. He's not physically making you feel good. Obviously, you married the motherfucker for a reason. Right. You know, so I think that, you know, you guys sound like a match made in heaven. You're doing the right thing, baby. Yes. Sophia, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I'm so happy to have you here. And I want to bring you back every year and just check in with you and see how you're doing. I would fucking love that. This was so amazing. We absolutely vibe and.

I can't wait to have you on my episodes of you with an F and thank you so much for having me. Thank you. And Sophia, why don't you tell people where they can find you? So you guys can find me on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, basically anywhere. Sophia with an F Franklin with a Y on TikTok. It's Sophia Franklin and then the number zero. But I'm all over all social media being a hoe, being funny, being annoying, whatever you want.

And then Sophia the Naff is my podcast. Yay. Go listen, you guys. Go listen. Not now. Right now. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.