Moonshine Bandits on How They Like Their Bourbon and Groupies
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all right gentlemen coming to main stage next this is bunny get up there she's got a tornado of titties coming your way get those dollar bills ready she's got an ass that shakes like michael j fox so get up there and throw throw throw them dollars dude that is fucking iconic what's up you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today it's shiner nation baby i got

the Moonshine Bandits on the podcast and I am fucking stoked. Happy to be here. Thanks for having us. Dude, I'm so happy you guys are here. So a little fun fact. I did some date researches last night. Do you know that Jay and I met at you guys' show August 21st at LVCS? That was the first time we ever met. Really? So you guys are responsible for Jelly and Bunny. Well, we're responsible for a lot of relationships and a lot of breakups. There's always that you gotta take

the good with the bad, right? That's great. My brother and his wife actually met at one of our very first shows way back in the Central Valley in California a long time ago. Oh, I love that. So you guys are just bringing love together and you're there in the beginning and you're there in the end. Right, right, right. That's all that matters. What are you guys doing out here in Vegas right now? Go ahead, bro.

Well, we came out here to see you and do the podcast. But tomorrow we're going to be at Hogs and Heifer Saloon. We're actually debuting our brand new Bucked Up Bourbon that just came out. And it's delicious. It's very, very good. In fact, on that note...

Yeah. So we got a square black carpet event tomorrow. Very cool. You guys are doing the hair of the dog right now. I heard you guys were hung over a little rough, a little rough last night. I had a little go. Flight was all screwed up coming in from Nashville. So just get lit and turn it into a fucking party. Right. So I did a lot of research last night. I normally don't research my guests before they come on, but I got sweated by gangsta boo fucking last week because I didn't know the

the fucking name of her album. Like I knew everything else, but didn't know the name of her album and she fucking lost her shit. So I was like, you know what? Let me just fucking make some notes here. So I researched you guys last night and I watched a couple of you guys' interviews and I was just like, you know what? People don't really know

everything about you guys. There's always bits and pieces in the interviews, but there's not one solid interview where people can find out everything. And I kind of want to be that interview with you guys. Cool. Let's do it. All right. So let's start from the beginning. I heard that you're the preacher's son, right? I am. And you came from a big Italian family. That's right. All right. So where did you grow up? So I grew up kind of around the country. I was born in Hollister, California.

And my parents started a church in Lubbock, Texas. Yeah. And my dad was in the forestry in California. He was actually the youngest fire captain ever in the state back in the day. And he left that to serve the Lord. And so we went to Lubbock, Texas. And that's from my earliest childhood was there.

Then I wound up in northeast Mississippi where kind of that's where I got my roots. So you were born in Cali, but then ended up in Texas. Like that's wild. And then Mississippi and like it was everywhere was he was a pastor at a church and then went on down that line and wound up in Mississippi. My grandparents are out there, aunts and uncles, cousins and all that. And then we moved back to California.

So like I was in seventh grade, eighth grade when I got back to Cali. Were you happy to get back there? Like fucking A? I don't, you know, I was a kid. So I mean, everything to me was fun. Right. I mean, like it was,

uh, it was, it was kind of a crazy upbringing, you know, everybody has challenges with their families and stuff. Pentecostal. I was raised Pentecostal and there's not a lot of money in preaching, especially in Mississippi, like the eighties and nineties. So, I mean, it was tough, but my family got by and it's cool. Uh, once we got back to Cali, started going to school and that's when I kind of met Dusty and his cousin and like, we started rapping and like

Parties out in the country and stuff. Was your nickname always Bird? Yeah. So when I moved from Mississippi to Cali, I was playing Little League Baseball.

And I had such a little redneck accent that the coaches was like, what's your, what's your name? And I'd say, and they thought I was saying bird. And so they called, started calling me birdie. And so like, ever since I was like 12, I've had that name. So like, and it just birdie just rolled into bird. I love that. So let's get a, let's get a little backdrop on your childhood. Yeah. I grew up in, uh, Los Angeles, California, shout out through 209. Um,

Born and raised Cali. So you're West Coast through and through. Yep. Always will be. I'll probably get a condo in Florida, but I love Cali. Just grew up in a little small town, an hour north of Fresno. And...

Every weekend we'd go to my grandparents' house and it was party, party, party, big Italian family yelling, arguing, you know, wake up in the next morning and apologize. And that's how it was every week. That's real family though. It's just crazy. Not my family, but that's real family. Yeah. My family is so fucking dysfunctional. Big meals and just, you know, drinking, drinking and partying, dancing, singing. And that was my childhood that, and you know, like you said, we'd,

high school we'd start rapping at these canal bank parties or shop parties where we grew up with a lot of farm boys. Gotcha. They had these destinations where you just go out there middle of the night and just, you know. Like pasture parties and shit like that? Yeah. I've been to one of those, believe it or not. I don't know how the fuck I ended up there, but I was there. Field parties before they were field parties. Yeah. Pretty much. Right.

So did you guys always have music instilled in you as children? Like, were you guys around the musical? Sorry to cut you off, but mine was just more of like entertainment. Right. Like you get up and just sing with your family, have a good time. That was my upbringing. His is more church. Yeah, mine was church. I sang in church. And my mom led the choir. My dad played guitar, stuff like that. My mom played the piano.

Dad played the guitar. They both sang. My mom's got an angel voice.

Shout out to you, mom and dad. Shout out, mom. But I'm still pissed off at my mom and dad for never teaching me how to play their instruments they knew. And I grew up in a household where my mom played the piano and my dad played the guitar, and I didn't know shit from any of that. In my household, my mom was just with the wooden spoons. Yeah. That's that Italian. That was the microphone. Yeah, we still do that. Anything you can grab out of that kitchen utensil bucket, right? That's right. Start singing with.

We used to have the board of education when I was growing up. It was a board that I got spanked with. I was in trouble. Fucking bullshit. So you moved back to Cali and you were already there. Where did you guys meet and how old were you? Sophomore high school. Yeah, you were a sophomore. I was a freshman in high school. So I was best friends with his cousin. Okay. Danny Ramis. And, uh,

So we all knew each other from hanging out, you know. So he was just a grade above me in high school. Right. But...

You know, we just kind of started clicking with music. We kind of were in the same crew and a couple of the guys like DJ stuff and one of our buddies, Atomic, he used to always get his hands on new music. Right. So I remember when he let us hear Devil Without a Cause from Kid Rock, that record. And it was like, man, what the fuck is this shit? That record is iconic. We didn't know what that shit was. And that was before I think Bob did

the New Year's Eve party where he mixed like AC/DC with, shit I can't remember what it was, it was Run DMC or something like that and he mixed it and people were blowing the fucking thing. - And that record was blue. - Man that was dope. - Yeah. - Now I remember that album. - We were around those kind of people and like so it kind of, we were on that leading edge of finding out new music and it kind of inspired us I think to kind of get going with it, you know. - So just straight out the gate you guys wanted to be rappers?

Or was it like, I want to be a singer or I want to be a mixture? Cause you know how some people, it takes them a minute to find their sound. Right. I don't know, man. It's like, our sound was like organic from the gate. It was, we were listening to, I listened to, you know, Beastie Boys, Licensed to Ill and next day I'm listening to Credence. So it was pretty much just. And I grew up on everything from the gospel to country to, you know, ACDC to Guns N' Roses to all, all of that, you know? And, um,

I think our music from the beginning, even if you go back and listen to it, you don't have to. Yeah, please don't. Don't listen to that. There's even seen it before that, but let's not go there. I love the name of that album, the 2003 one, Soggy Crackers. I was like, that is fucking hilarious. But I mean, that's that. But if we hadn't have did that, we wouldn't have been able to be on the path that

helped us find ourselves. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Not everybody. So if you go back and listen to that, we still are today. That same crew. Just fine tuned. It's just, yeah. Yeah. We figured it out, you know? And like, I've got away a lot from the rap and cause I love to sing. I'd rather, I'd rather sing. And like, like with jelly, man, when I, I didn't, I remember when dusty let me hear him, uh, when he did the Marshall Tucker, you know, can't you see song? I was like,

motherfucker that kid got pipes and like i i aspire to be a singer like that and i admire him and i look up to his voice you know for sure he loves you guys he looks up to you guys a lot hell of a dude he called me before you guys even got here he's like are they there yet we've had some good times together no i could only imagine so how did the name moonshine bandits come into play

Were you guys always Moonshine Bandits or did you have to try on a few names? No, that's been the name. That's legit though because most people go through a phase where they, like I said, finding their sound but also have to find their name too. So my great-grandfather was in Half Moon Bay and he was bootlegging liquor during Prohibition. And he would use my great-aunt and my nanny to peddle the liquor. Basically, they would use baby carriages, put the booze in there,

And then they'd service politicians, law officials, and basically sold liquor illegally. So it kind of comes from that. They used to barbershop as the front. Yeah. And so I think Moonshine kind of came from that a little bit. Right. We were alcoholics, too. And we kind of wanted to have a fun kind of name as well. But with his grandfather and that heritage and that history...

it just kind of came up but i remember when we were we were really like hey we got to name ourselves we got to have a name right and i remember going through different stuff and like when that came up i think dusty may have came up with it yeah and it was it stuck and it was like moonshine bandits i mean it's like and then it's like that's dope it's a cool name it's just unique and like people if they hear our name they're like we won't talk about all the ones we crossed off and

Can we hear one? Let's hear one. No way. Come on. You have to. Give me an exclusive. Booze Brothers. Booze Brothers. That was bad. Liquor Legends. The what? The Liquor what? Liquor Legends. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. I don't know. It may have been. I don't know. I'm just kind of spouting off. But Booze Brothers was one.

That's actually kind of catchy because of the Blues Brothers. And there's two of you. Yeah, we had a lot of trash. Yeah, there was two of them. That is so funny. So after you guys came up with the Moonshine Bandits, is that when you guys started recording music? Or what happens after this? You know, you guys had your little crew or whatever. Yeah, so what we did was, that was back in the day where you're trying to get signed. So we recorded a demo and we're like, we got four songs done. We're going to get signed and make millions. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. You start sending that and everybody's like, oh, what the fuck are you guys doing making country with rap? Oh, this is never going to work. And so we were like, okay, well, let's just start selling the demo. So we just sold the demo at a little mom and pop shop. Shout out to Fantasia Records. Yeah.

And he sold our record out of there, and we sold like 2,000. We're in a small town. That's pretty fucking good. Hey, small town, four-song demo. I think we printed the shit out on Kinko's paper or something. Yeah, it was fucking whack, bro. It was crazy, but people bought it. From that, then we were just... Yeah, so we just started building on that, and I think we... We made it a full-length record. Yeah, we had a distribution deal, and then we ended up getting signed by SubNoise, and

Yeah, so were you guys signed the same? I'm sorry, I'm looking at my notes too. I don't want you guys to think I'm ignoring you. When you guys were signed to SubNoise, were you guys signed during the era of the Cottonmouth Kings and all that stuff too? Yeah, we toured with those guys. We actually had two contracts on the table. We had Average Joe's and we had SubNoise. And at that time, we felt like we needed to still work on the West Coast and blow up Cali, and SubNoise had that contract.

And so we passed on Average Joe's and we signed with Sub Noise. And then we immediately went on tour with Big B. Yeah, I've met Big B a few times. He's a good guy. Cottonmouth Kings, yeah. Shout out to Big B. He's the homie. He's the homie.

So was that... Like those guys too, though. But that whole era, it was great for me and Dusty to experience those bands because they were really, you know, well-refined and they were at the height, you know, of their career. And learn from how they were branding themselves. We learned right out the gate from KMK, ICP, and Twisted how to brand. Right. And like that... Insane Clown Posse is just a different level the way they brand themselves. And it's crazy. And then also too, but for entertainment, like we don't consider ourselves...

or singers, we're entertainers. Yeah, you guys are a brand. We're there to provide people an escape from their shitty nine-to-five jobs. We want them to leave our show smiling and happy and they had a fucking good time. But

But we learned that. I got to pay tribute to Tech N9ne, seeing him in Merced, California at the Manger Theater and watching him for the very first time. And like, holy shit, who is this dude? This dude is ridiculous. The energy. Yeah, shout out Tech, shout out Travis. Yeah, man. I remember rolling Travis to a bank way back in the day. Oh, yeah, I love Travis. That's my buddy. And that's when Tech was out. You know, he was slinging verses for like,

600 bucks a verse. I know. We should have stocked up on a few. That's crazy, right? And just sat on them. I know. I know. We should have. So what was your first tour with? Sub Noise was your first? You know what? Our first tour was with RBL Posse from the Bay Area. Oh, my God. There's a bluebird on my shoulder. Can I kill it? That was my shit back in the day. Man, we learned a lot on that tour. That's good.

Yeah, it was pretty cool. It was wild. But that was crazy, too, because they came through our hometown, and we went to the show. And I met the manager of RBL Posse, the tour manager. And they were like, man, we need a place to kick it. And I was like, well, I live just right over here. You guys are welcome to come over. And I didn't realize there was going to be like 20 carloads

of people. You know what I mean? Of rolling in. Story life. It was crazy, but I got a chance to meet Chris, like Black Sea, and like he, he was like, oh yeah, my boy said you guys are into music. He was like, let me hear your stuff. And we only had the four song demo.

And I played it and he, he, they were vibing on it. They were like, they never heard shit like that before. So you guys went out on tour without even dropping a record. You guys just only had the demo. Yeah. That's insane. It's such a different, um, you know, from now it's like to how it was back then. It's crazy. But yeah, we went with those dudes and, uh, they took care of us. It was really cool. Cause we were definitely out of our element. Everybody knew it. Yeah. And, but they took care of us and we had a great response from people, uh,

you know you guys have a really good energy on stage you you guys draw people in and you make them feel good i remember i had i hadn't heard of you guys until 2015 and all my girlfriends hit me up they're like the moonshine bandits are coming to town and i'm like who and they're like dude you guys gotta see you you have to come to the show and i was like okay cool so i actually went there with an ex of mine but um thank god for him because i would have never met jay you know yeah um so you guys

signed with sub noise, but wasn't there another offer that you guys had on the table? I think I heard you guys talk about it was with average Joe's. Yeah. Was that, was it average? Yeah. Okay. And then, yeah, I don't remember what happened. Hold on. I'm looking right now. Let me scare. That was only when it was basically just cold forward. And, um,

I mean, I think the Lacks were signed to them, but they hadn't even cut a record yet. We ended up signing with Average Joe's. Yeah. Average Joe's is out in Nashville, right? Yeah. Aren't they out there? Yeah. Yeah, we did. We did after we dropped a record with SubNoise, and then we did the co-record. Oh. Universal. Did you guys have something with Universal? Oh, we did. Yeah, we did. I told you guys I did my research. I forgot about that. You know what? That's old school. That was Craig Ferguson with Bungalow. Wow. Yeah.

What did he do with that? So they were interested in sinus, and this is when...

I hate to say this because it's showing our age, but this is when Eminem just popped with, "Hi, my name is Slim Shady." So it was big in colleges. That was a huge fraternity, I guess, kind of style. It was party songs. And we had already kind of created a buzz. We had a song license by MTV for one of their shows. And it kind of popped for us a little bit in the LA area. And we got invited down to Universal.

And we had a guy at the time that was kind of behind us and was helping us out a little bit. And we went down there and it just, it didn't work out the way it should have worked out. Thank God it didn't. Thank God it didn't because they were trying to steer us one way. Yeah. Demonic. Yeah. They would have had us go and try to go in the vein of Eminem and be that type of a duo, but like him. And I'm glad it didn't work out because we, we developed ourself and we, it

It may have took us a lot longer to get where we're at, but we did it the right way. We earned every fucking stripe on our shoulder. Yeah, no, for sure. That's exactly what my husband did, too. He held out for the longest time because those record deals are fucking, like, literally, it's like, figuratively speaking, selling your soul. And you are literally selling your rights to everything. And they want to change who you are. They want to change your sound. They want to change your look. Yeah.

It's just crazy. And the same with reality shows because we had this deal with Seacrest and we started reading over the contract and we're just like, fuck, we signed this.

we're done. Yeah, like what can you really do? Oh, it was, they were trying to just, it was. What was the reality show going to be based about? It was based on us. It was our lives, our lifestyle, our families, but it was, it was too clean. I don't know if it was clean, but it was like, it was trying to follow like a. Yeah, you would think that it would be pretty clean. But I mean, at the time, and then at the same time, Smo got his show on A&E. So,

That kind of put us in the back burner, but we've had multiple television things. I think before it's said and done, we'll probably do more TV stuff. It's fun to do it, but it's a lot of work to do TV. Oh, dude, we just filmed our pilot for Peacock. We just got signed to do a reality show. That's great. Our shooting schedule is what? June till...

Three and a half months of shooting we're about to start doing, dude. I want to kill myself right now. Yeah, and those are long days. They're real long days. It's like 11 hours. Like, it's crazy. Yeah, no nap time. Yeah, none. None whatsoever. And I need, like, I have to, like, recharge and shit. So let's talk about the music. Who writes you guys' songs? Is it both of you? Or do you guys have writers come in? Like, how does that work for you guys? Oh, shit. We've done it every way you could think of. It could be, you know,

Maybe I come up with the concept. He comes up with the hook. We've been in those sessions where you're with Nashville writers where it's real stuffy and we fucking leave. I hate music row. Oh, man. They're a joke. We've had some good times over there. Ira Dean. Ira's great. Yeah, just... I like you, Ira.

A ton of different ways. Yeah. Like Byrne County, our production crew, Durwood Black, Ty, those guys have been with us since the beginning of the birth of Moonshot Bandits, basically. So Durwood's came through with a ton of hooks. And I mean, he is a very, very talented songwriter and singer. And he's came up with a couple of good concepts or Dusty would come up with the concept and Durwood would nail the hook. So yeah.

But we do write, I mean, 90% probably of our material, 80 to 90%. We probably write about 90%, argue 10%. I couldn't imagine. You guys are like brothers. Like literally, you guys are like soulmates. When's your birthday? Oh.

October 19th. So you're a Scorpio. I'm a Libra. Libra Scorpio cusp and you're a Cancer. So, okay, I got it. It's actually a soulmate. We've been through it all. We've been through it all. Well, we have gotten out of where, you know, life has got to be easier. You know what I mean? And we understand. Like, for instance, if we're going to do an album and there's something he ain't feeling with me, then we just walk away from it. If something I ain't feeling, we just walk away from it. Fuck it.

let's just do something where we're both going to collab and vibe vibe well and like we've kind of been taking that whole approach with everything that we're doing with our brand now it's like yeah if you're feeling it we're going to do it if you're not feeling it fuck it we got others so many other options so many other spokes on the wheel you know well you guys have been rocking such a fucking long time it's kind of like a marriage you know like you guys learn how to communicate with each other and i've been here for 10 plus 10 probably do another 10 that's

sweet though it's not very often that you find friendships like that especially that last this long in the music industry because it's so full of snakes there's a lot of these though yeah oh yeah for sure but that's with anyone especially when you live on the road together for you know I think our longest tour was three months with rehab and

You go through some shit when you're around the people. Oh, no. I won't tour anymore. I put in fucking five years. This last tour, I told my husband, I was like, I'm flying into the big dates. That's it. I'm a bougie bitch now. I'm not hitting the road anymore. I don't blame you. The bus tours, we got one coming up this year. Can we talk about it? Let's talk about it. Yeah. The Bucked Up Bourbon Tour. Yay. Bucked Up Whiskey Tour.

And, but, you know, our bus tours are, When does it start? It starts April. April. I think it's 20 dates or 20, 25 dates. I think it's going to be more. Yeah, it might be. But it's all West Coast. Awesome. Western U.S. But we're all getting back out to like Montana, Wyoming, which is cool. A lot of people in Arizona are asking why you guys haven't been out there. Oh,

You know, that's interesting because we play Scottsdale and Phoenix a lot. And then people will be like, when are you going to play here? And we're like, bro, we were there last night. They do that to us too. Check your schedule. Well, that's good. Pay attention. Fucking Facebook. You can't even get everything out to people. We're playing on this tour. We're playing Flagstaff and Phoenix. Okay. Both those. And we're playing the museum club in Flagstaff, which is fucking, it's really, really cool. It's got some. Is it?

Cool ass history there. So you guys excited about this tour? Always. Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready to get out there and fucking go. Yeah. Make some more memories by going to jail or something. Who knows? Go to jail or something. Do you guys ever write a fucking sad song? Yeah. I don't know.

Because I listened to a bunch of shit last night and I just wanted to fucking shake my ass around my room. Like, I was so excited and fucking titties flopping out and everything. Hell yeah. Sheesh. Play one of those songs right now. If you notice, all of our music videos are pretty much

fucking good time. Dude, there's just hot bitches everywhere. I was just like, God. Sex sells, bunny. I don't know if you know that or not. I'm trying to get views, guys. I was going to wait until later, but can we talk about the amount of pussy that gets thrown at you guys? Because I put a fucking questionnaire up in my story yesterday and every bitch on there was like, ask them if they want to have a male-male-female threesome. And I'm like,

Just say yeah to all of it. Throw it all in there. Like every one of them just wants to fuck you guys. It's crazy to me. I was like these fucking little sex icons. Especially now that I lost some weight. It's tough, man. It's tough. How do you guys deal with the groupies on the road? Mine is super easy.

I'm faithful. I married my wife. She saved me from my world. I love the way you talk about your wife. Absolutely. And like, I mean, yeah, we have our hard times, our ups and downs, but she fucking knew the crazy I was. And she was able to,

be there for me. And I need that in my life, you know? Yeah. You really pulled me out of some dark, dark areas of drugs and stuff like that. So being with an artist as a wife of an artist, being with an artist is probably one of the hardest things and most rewarding things you'll do because you guys have to go to a dark place and tap into that creativity. And sometimes it bleeds over, you know, into tour and stuff like that. So, you know, women as our job is to just make sure that you guys just stay even and try to keep you guys on

I mean, there's one thing as our wives have been able to help us with is like a lot of times when we get off stage, that's nobody fuck with us. We're going to call our ladies. Sometimes we need that voice just to bring you back, just to come back down. Cause like, you know, if not, you just get out of control. It's incredible. The, the, the experiences that you can have on stage and, and,

The emotions can be so high and so passionate with our patriotism to just the energy on the stage. Their voice, my wife's voice can calm me down. Yeah, I've been with my wife since high school. She's seen us where we were dirt poor trying to take loans out from drug dealers, trying to just get money to keep it going. She's seen us want to quit. She's seen us fight. Right.

She has a big shot of Nikki because she's pushed it. Shout out to the wife. She's seen it all. She's seen it all. Do you guys have open relationships? I don't like calling them open. I like calling them free because Jay and I have a thing where we have a free relationship. When he's out on the road, if he wants to fuck somebody as long as I know, I don't care. Yeah, I don't think that would work out for me. Me either. I mean, if I'm in a strip club or if there's...

You know, I'm signing titties or all that shit. Yeah. She ain't tripping on that at all. Like, we signed this one girl's ass. I got to throw this story in there. Get it in there, bro. We signed this one girl's ass. I've heard this story. Yeah? I want to hear it again, though. It's good. Everybody needs to hear it. So we're obviously faded after a show, and this chick's like, sign my ass, sign my ass. So she pulls her pants down.

I sign my name. Bird signs his name. Bird was a little more fucked up than me, and he signed bid, B-I-D. I forgot the R. So two months later, she shows up to our show again. She pulls down her pants. Look, got your name tattooed on my ass.

bid and text that and she's just stuck with that she didn't realize that when she was sober like hey his name's bird and put the r in there i don't know i want to hear the brantley gilbert story that you weren't allowed to tell because jay's about to go i don't know if i'm allowed to say that but jay's about to go on tour with brantley i think the brantley gilbert i don't know shrimp

I was like, if he's not going to tell it on that interview, I want to hear it on ours. I can't wait to hear this story. I don't like to talk about pooping, but... Oh, I love it. Let's talk about it. Anything with buttholes, I'm all for. This is personal. This is real personal. All right, we're doing this festival up in Nevada, this country festival, and Brantley doesn't know this, so hopefully he hears it. So anyway, we are...

They had this beautiful catering. I mean, some of these festivals, you get really, really good food and stuff like that. And like, I remember going, uh, it was, I, we just got off stage and, uh, I was in the bathroom and this guy's in a bathroom next to me, just going like, Oh,

That kind of stuff. You know what I mean? And I'm like, damn, dude. And I just thought, what the hell? And then I hear this guy come in the door. Hold on. I don't think we're going to get that Brantley feature now.

Keep going. Don't matter, bro. Ain't no sweat off my nuts. No, you guys like keep going. And so I hear the door open and this guy's like, yo, Bradley, you got to get out here. It's time to get on stage, bro. He's like, give me a minute. And I'm like, damn, dude, you had that bacon wrap asparagus too? And he's like, yep.

I didn't even see him leave, but I heard him. And so, and then I was like, I told you. Oh, so it was Brantley fucking dropping bombs. He was dropping bombs, dude. Right next to Brant. Right next to me. He was like, battle shit, dude. You know what I'm saying? Battle shit. You sunk my battle shit. I cannot believe I'm saying this. That is so fucking funny. Forgive me, Lord. But I'll tell you right now, though.

I told Chopsticks, we were sitting in a rig, and I'm like, you watch that guy. He's squirming on stage. It was fucked up because I feel bad. I've been there before, and it's tough. You've got to play through this stuff. Oh, dude, we were doing that. You guys don't understand why you have to do it to be on stage sometimes. Oh, no, listen, we were in the— Right as soon as he was done with his last fucking song, that son of a bitch, they had the van ready for him to go to fly to the airport. He went right past the van right there. Oh, no, man.

Poor baby. Jay was playing a show in, I think, Philadelphia one time, and he looked over at me and just made these eyes. And I was like, what the fuck is happening? Like, are you okay? Like, what can I do? And he was like, you guys, I'm going to be right back. And fucking ran off stage and, like, could not. There was no bathroom for him to get in because it was locked. Had to run out. Nope. Ran outside and shit in the bushes. And then had to.

I had to bring him back in napkins and then he just fucking went back on stage, killed it. And that was it. He did something to me once. Big B got big hands. I was sick as shit. And at the, uh, in Michigan, Grand Rapids, I remember I was just about to walk up on stage. I'm getting hyped up, getting up. I didn't even want to be there. I was so sick.

Brian's coming off stage. Big B. Good luck, bird. Went like that and just pulled me around. Oh, no. The intro song is going and I'm like, shit, I just had to perform. Just having to shit the entire time. I did it.

Perform the whole thing. That is so funny. This is Up Close and Personal with the Moonshine Bandits. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks, Bunny, for bringing all these shit stories out. I appreciate it. It's what I do, baby. It's what I do. My family will attest. We're a family full of farters. Listen, you guys, I

I'm married to jelly. Okay. This motherfucker, he's got the bowels of a three-year-old. He has to shit everywhere he goes. He's a good Catholic. This is cute. Cute shit. He's a good Catholic boy. I don't know.

So let's talk about you guys' brand. You guys are like so much more than artists. It's insane. I'm going to pull some of this out. Yeah, please do. Yeah, we kind of pride ourselves in like a lifestyle brand. It's amazing that all the shit you guys have your hands in. Utensils. Oh my God. If you listen to our music, we're bringing this so you guys can have it here. This is an apron. It's got stuff for your

you know, barbecuing and all that stuff. I think I read somewhere that you guys own a bar and grill too, or do you guys still? Okay. That's a whole nother story. That was our most expensive hangover we ever had. Oh, fuck. I could only imagine. We got our jerky. Oh my God. Sorry about that. This is the best jerky anybody will...

You guys are fucking just like, it's crazy, the shit that you guys have. We've got seasoning. Oh, Jay's going to love that stuff. So we've got Shiner seasoning. It's great for chicken, fish, vegetables, that kind of stuff. Peach and pepper sauce. It's really good with pork. So you guys really did pay attention to ICP's playbook. You know what? You've got a good story about...

uh, there's a violent J in our jerky. They're actually coming on the podcast. I would love to hear that. Can you bring this up? Cause I just give them the jerky. Okay. All right. Just put this out here like this. You can see it. All right. This right here. It's a violent J is crack. Uh,

This motherfucker loves his shit. And we were out on tour with him. I guess it was the Mighty Death Pop tour. That was, I don't know, six years ago. Yeah, we weren't making much money on that run. And thank God he bought all of her jerky. Yeah, man. He saved us from merchandise every night. His wife at the time, she would come up and she would be like at the end of the show, she'd be like, hey, Bird, Jay likes that jerky. Could I get like 10 bags? Oh, my God. Sure, fuck yeah. And then like the next night, he's like, hey, um.

Yo, we need 10 more bags. He ain't fucking 10 bags of jerky. That's something that your fingers must be swolled up like a motherfucker. Dude, for real. So he, at the end of the tour, we had like 40 something bags left. And like, I was like, where are you guys going after this? He's like, oh, we're going on vacation. Well, she came up and she's like, hey,

We're going out of the country and we want the rest of your jerky. We're going to clean you out. Yeah, I can't wait to try it. So we had this in production for a while and the company kind of closed. We got back into it again recently with Jerky Girl, bulletproof jerky out of Southern California. And she helped reintroduce us to the company that came back and we didn't know that. So we were able to do it.

Again, bring it back out a couple years ago or a year and a half ago. And I sent fucking Violent J a big-ass box of jerky to Psychopathic Records.

And pretty soon I get a text message from him. He was so fucked up. He must have been drunk or something. He said he was proud as a motherfucker getting that jerky. Big shout out to Violent J. Shout out, Violent J. We love you guys. So who picks out all this stuff? Do you guys just say, hey, I want my own fucking seasoning. Hey, I want this. I want that. And just make it. Or do you guys like.

I don't know. Is it requested by the fans? I feel like we've got a good relationship with their fans and we kind of know what they like. They like what we like. And we just, I don't know. You guys probably fucking kill it in merch, dude. Yeah. Like all this stuff. We do pretty well. It's definitely, you know, when you tour, you've got...

You're touring money and you've got merchandise. And whatever you make touring, you should make that a merch or more. Absolutely. And I look at it like this. Our brand is me and Dusty are the center, right? And if you look at it as a wagon wheel, right, with spokes going off, each thing is a spoke. Jerky's a spoke. Sauce is a spoke. Seasoning is a spoke. Whiskey, you know, whatever it is, merchandise, shirts, hats, whatever it could be, touring merchandise.

digital royalties, all that stuff is a spoke. So the more spokes you have coming off that wheel, the more avenues of income you got coming into your brand. And like, so when fucking COVID or some other bullshit hits, you have that residual income. You're not bankrupt. You're able to, the wheel is still spinning because you have all these different ways to keep yourself going. So, um,

I love that. You just dropped some game right there. Artists need to pay attention. Mimi, I need my own fucking jerky. What are we doing? This is my manager here. That's the one thing I want to share to younger artists that are coming up. Brand yourself. Don't just pigeonhole. You got to know who you are to put it out there. Don't just put out bullshit. Put out something that you're

your consumers, your fan base is going to want to get behind. Put out something that if you're talking to a certain demographic...

put something out in that demographic right so let's talk about this bar and grill that you said was another story yeah i'll take the i'll take the uh l on that oh no i heard him giggle he was like over to you friend so a lot of yeah i'm the i'm the brandy guy so i thought well let's do a shiner's bar and grill in our hometown you know we know everything about bars we've been to every bar yeah we didn't know how to run them yeah i'll tell you that

When you open a bar, you can't go on tour for three months on day one. So that's exactly what happened. Ribbon cutting. We had a ribbon cutting. We're like, oh, this is fucking great. Packed out for a week. Bar was just cracking. Wow.

We go on a tour with, I think it was rehab, and we were gone for three months. We couldn't oversee anything that was going on. But then you got employees fucking patrons, employees fucking employees. Oh, man. People taking food home for their kids, and it's just cooks ordering ridiculous, over-excessive amounts of food, lots of waste. That's so true. You can't even trust people like that to run something that you... And we had some great employees, not all of them. Yeah. But...

We were killing it too. And it's just sucks that we weren't around to oversee the business. You got to be a part of our own fault. So, Oh, well, it's all right. But look at everything else that you guys have been blessed with, you know? So it's like, you got to win some and lose some. I would do it again. I wouldn't take the L for a loss. I take it for a learn. Yeah. Everything's a learn. I love that. Everything is a learn for sure. You know? And like, you don't, if you don't fucking burn yourself,

then how are you going to know the stove's hot? Exactly. You know, so you got to, you have to get in there and like, that's, that's the best way to become a better business person, better businessman anyways. That's what we had to do with this podcast, dude, to get to where we are now. I had to do a whole bunch of fucking learning. It was not fun. Let's talk about music placement. You guys just got placed on like Tiger King. Yeah.

stuff like that like you guys are always getting placed in like the coolest things yeah how does that come about I've talked to I don't know it might be Kevin Zinger at SubNoise for Tiger King I know we have he's still are you guys still signed to them or homies though we're not yeah we're not signed to him but we're you know we're we're still homies are you guys independent now yeah 100% yeah okay the last three albums

So it's pretty good. And we still got good relationships with our old labels because we're still getting good checks. So we got to be cool. We got to be cool. And in this business too, like, you know, we may have been,

not really taken or we were a hundred percent taken advantage of every artist was for a lot, a long time, but you still maintain some type of civility, you know, and you got to keep those lines of communication open. You don't ever want to burn a bridge because you never know if you're going to be working with those guys down the road. And, you know, they might not be in that label or they might be working in a different avenue with booking or marketing or something. And like, so it's just better to, Hey man, shrug your shoulders and like,

you know, we'll figure something out and then,

Keep it cool. No, the music industry is so big yet so small. Everybody knows everybody. The circles always collide like it's crazy. It's similar like in TV and films. Very, very similar. And a lot of those guys cross crossover too. How did it feel to, you know, is the Tiger King like the coolest thing you think you guys have gotten placed in or what is something that you guys think is the coolest? I think, yeah, when our music video went to number one on cmt.com,

That's huge. That was back when your fans had to vote you in. So they changed that whole shit because we fucked it up. Because it was, I think it was Taylor Swift, Toby Keith, and our fans were relentless. It just went to number one, and then it went to TV on top five.

And that was number one or two. They changed all that online voting shit after that. So that was, that was pretty cool. That was great. And like that, that song was called my kind of country. And it was like a song that was just about where we're from, you know, central California and, you know, showing people that there is country on the West coast, you know? And like, cause when you think of Cali, you think of LA, you think of the Bay area, maybe Sacramento, but you don't really know that the whole state is, it's a giant fucking state, you know? And like,

Where we're from is we just try to highlight that, show that. And I think that's why people got behind it so well. And the message was about nine to five blue collar people.

you know america do you feel like um speaking about like being open about your patriotism and stuff like that it's such a hot topic now it's like hit or miss with the industry like either people are gonna embrace it or they're gonna like hate you for it you know like adam calhoun's had to go through you know both sides of it do you guys feel like it's helped you in a way or do you guys feel like it's hindered you in a way i think we just always been true to ourselves i mean we had a we had

We have had our nonprofit for five years now. Yeah. You know, we ship. You want to shout out your nonprofit? Yeah. Yeah, OPC, Operation Packing Company. We've got a lot of great volunteers, and, you know, we do about 75 boxes to soldiers overseas every month. Aw.

We've got a lot of good people helping us out with that. And, you know, we've just been true of where we stand. Yeah. Right. Our values are our values. So it's like, if you don't like it, well. Suck it while it's soft. Being proud of being American is not a platform for us. That's just, it's Brit.

That's bred into, it should be into every American. Yeah, for sure. We do live in the greatest country that has the greatest opportunity for every person. Absolutely. It's hard to see what's going on with our country right now. It really is. It's heartbreaking. It's like, that's why it's like, I'm ready to get back on the road because so many people want to get away from that. They want to just turn their fucking TV off, come out to a show, you know, let loose. Just have fun. And forget about the news for the day, you know? Yeah. So, but...

We are very proud of soldiers and we've had many incredible moments and conversations where you fill up with tears and just hearing some of what some of these guys have had to go through. And it's like sometimes me and Dusty are their confession. And it's crazy because we've had people that haven't been able to talk to their wives or their family or anybody, but they're like,

man you read the song america pride or you did the song past the ammo and like they're they get it off their chest and it's hard to swallow those stories you know because then you're bearing that burden with them but i mean i encourage any soldier that's out there if you ever need an issue you come up to us at a show i'd be happy to talk to you anytime but see seek help

Look for help. There's help everywhere if you're battling PTSD or any of those issues because there are a lot of people that would love to

Love to reach your hands out and give you a hug. You know what I mean? I feel like we should be helping them so much more. I just had Combat Barbie on and she's got a phenomenal story, but they don't tell you what happens after you get out of the service and all the shit that you have to deal with. So I think that's really sweet that you guys are open to talking to people because most artists won't do that. Do you feel like you guys have built your loyal fan base by literally shaking hands and kissing babies literally or signing asses and slapping titties?

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, because your fan base is crazy loyal. They're extremely loyal. We are very blessed to have these people behind us. It's a family. It's crazy to go anywhere around the country and just see them.

We had a guy last year. I'm going to shout him out. Stephen Hoffman. He came to every fucking show. Every single show, no matter where it was. That's crazy. Every show? Every single show. He's out of Denver area.

And it came every show. It's unbelievable. Isn't it crazy how people like just love you so much that they just do that? It's hard to grasp. Really. It's really hard to grasp. Like the connection you have with people through music and the people you meet and it's all walks of life coming together as one. So it's pretty special. And then it's like, you hear them, you know, I've, I've asked, I've asked, you know, several different, you know, shiners. I'm like, wait, why?

And they're like, because of your music, man. And I don't see it that way. And I don't think Dusty sees it that way. But our music is bigger than what we are. You know what I mean? And so it's special to have it be an impact on people's lives when we don't realize that it's going to be that big.

big of an impact on people's lives. You guys are the great souls that are behind your music though, you know? So it's the energy that goes into the music being made that reaches people's ears. And that's, that's I think how we get a lot of our topics and our, you know, stories are stories of our fans now of shiners and their lives. And, you know, the, the shiners that have passed rest in peace to all of them, you know, and,

you know, there's their inspirations to, you know, to fill up a page of memories to put out music. So that's beautiful. So have you guys had your aha moment yet? Like, Holy fuck, I've made it. We've made it. Like, have you guys ever looked at each other and just been like, bro, I can't believe we're here. Yeah. We've had a few of those that we thought were, I mean, I feel like I'm talking a lot more. I think, I think that,

March 8th or March 8th. And we're out on a cruise ship plane show of 2020 to hear our peers, the lack say, yo man, our tour just got canceled. They're probably gonna be calling you next. We were with the same agency at the time. And I was like, what, what are you talking about? COVID what the, you know, and then to have lost that entire year of touring, uh,

you know when me and dusty like that's we're like man we got to be on the road you got to be on the road you got to do it to make it and like pay your bills and that kind of stuff and we've been doing it keep growing 15 straight fucking years of eating asphalt yeah and like when we had we had this this time to where we just stopped it was like what the fuck we do yeah we're gonna make it you guys hadn't stopped and then we realize it goes back to that will we've had to we don't got a tour ever again we don't

we don't got to do this shit no more. And that's so fucking cool. I like being home. I want to be home with my wife and my kids and my chickens. You know what I'm saying? I got chickens now. I love that. He loves those fucking chickens and his damn wife, all right? I should have brought one with me. I could have flew with it on the plane. I grew up with a chicken named Henrietta that I was, she was like a dog. She was the coolest thing ever. We actually named one Henrietta too, but it became a rooster and now he's Henry. Oh,

Shit. That is so fucking funny. He's a retarded rooster because he crows at like 4 p.m. But it's better than in the morning. His fucking internal clock is fucked up. But I mean, that to me was my aha moment. I think for Dusty too. So we had a chance to fucking stop.

And we still worked. We still shot music videos. We still got a lot of stuff accomplished. Oh, yeah. But we didn't, we realized that that hard life on the road, we don't have to hit it so hard anymore. So now it's like when we're going to be doing these tours, we don't have to be out there. But we want to be out there. You know what I'm saying? But it's just, that was, I think, one of the big moments for us to be like, man, that's

This is cool. No, that's an awesome moment. Actually, Jay and I went through that too. We had a family meeting in like April of 2020 and we sat down and we're like, okay, we can't tour. You can't, you know, you're not gonna be able to do your podcast, whatever. What are we going to do? And we were just like, fuck it. Let's turn up on content. And we blew up in 2020 because of fucking COVID. So, I mean, I just, it's so good to see that you guys went through the same thing and turned a negative into a positive, you know, because a lot of people were just fucking sitting around crying.

just like upset about it. This is what's crazy is we had a partnership with Geiber Grills out of, and they do, we stocked up on like sponsorships is what we did too. And we did stuff with Slip Shine and those cats and like we had stuff that came through and worked with different companies for periods of time like Geiber

like Guyber was nine months, you know, and it's, and we did cooking videos and all that stuff. But I mean, it was fun. It was fucking fun. I mean, they gave us these bad-ass grills and broilers and bird. You're an influencer at heart. I need to get on, on YouTube and stuff. And I'm like, I'm not one. Sorry. Sorry guys. I'm not on social media. I just, I'm, I can't stand it. I don't,

Yeah. It's just one of those things. And I know there's people that, you know, it's a different machine. It's a different way to live and stuff. But I've been so plugged into my career that when I had that chance to unplug, I unplugged. Yeah. No, for sure. Have you guys ever thought about having your own podcast? People would fucking trip out for you guys. We kind of ran that idea around, but I don't know. It's hard to do it when, you know, I'm in Nashville. You guys could do it on the road while you're on the tour bus. We could. Yeah.

But I guess it all depends on how hard you hit it the night before. You wake up, your whole day's shot, and you're just looking for lunch.

You got to go. I mean, you go for runs now. So, I mean, this guy's out jogging. I don't know when it is. Are you the one who texted me this morning? I was cracking up. I was like, oh, my God. Sweating so profusely. Oh, you poor baby. Yeah. Well, I made it. What is 2022 going to hold for Moonshine Bandits? What do we have to look forward to? Well, we jump in the studio February 1st.

in atlanta so we'll be there for a couple weeks recording new album we're writing right now tour starts in april what else we got we got shows all the way till december right now and like they're they're still coming in which is great yeah it's all years probably booked up already pretty much is there going to be another jelly and moonshine bannock collab somewhere along the line i

I hope so. Fuck. We hope so. Jelly, I'm trying to retire. We need a hook pack. He'll give it to you. We need a save me song over here. Sheesh. You know, I want to dabble in the jelly roll. Let's get a good jelly roll. Let's get a little jelly. Dabble in the jelly. I'll FaceTime him after this. Hey, Bubba. Hey, Bubba. I got to tell you this. So when Jelly was going out on the road with us, he opened for us for one of the tours. I can't remember which one it was.

When I heard that he was going to be on the tour, I was like, man, I don't know about that. He's a rapper. How's he going to fit with us? I didn't know. And Dusty let me hear the Marshall Tucker song. And I was like, where did that guy come from with this? This is nuts. His voice, he's got a beautiful voice. And I heard a couple more things.

But that wasn't it. I met him. And within five minutes of talking with him, I fell in love with that guy. Just an angel baby. And I'm telling you that for everybody out there, Jelly Roll has got one of the biggest hearts. He really does. He is one of the nicest guys you've ever met. But he'll still whoop your ass. Just letting you know that. Yeah, I always say that he's a teddy bear with teeth. Yeah, right. So when we had our bus in at the time, and Jelly was rolling around in his van, and

Oh, fucking Bertha. Bertha. Yeah. Smoking out the window. The dirtiest fucking van you've ever seen in your life. Yeah. I don't know. We had one dirty. Oh my God. We had an 18 van. Fucking pissed on the feet. Anyway. So every time we got to a venue, we would be there early.

And then Jelly would come in, you know, around load-in time or whatever, and he would come in on the bus. And normally it would just be me in there on the bus, and I'd be in my bunk. I was always sleeping in my bunk, napping during the middle of the day. And Jelly would come in, and he'd sit there, and I'd open my curtain and wave at him, and he'd grin and wave back, and he'd light up a joint. And then about midway through the tour, he was lighting up, like, different shit of joints. And then by the end of the tour, I was hearing this, like,

clanking sound like fucking what the hell is that and I look out there and he's got these glass fucking wands and dabbed fucking containers and shit he looked like a fucking wizard on the thing dude and I was fascinated by it because he was concentrating so hard to fucking get that thing just right and lit it up and I was like man dude it was next level we had a

He's a fun dude, man. I'm so glad the dab fucking season is over. He's no longer a dabber, thank God, because it was fucking brutal. Yeah. It seemed like dab would take you down. People get stuck. I see chopsticks would get on that dude and you can't even fucking talk for two hours. Why do you want to be that high? Who wants to be that fucking high? I don't know. Oh, no. Do you guys still party? Do you guys do drugs or anything? I gave it up.

I smoke a little weed after the show. I'll do that. Drink a little wine and go to bed. But I'm just a whiskey wine. You guys are just like the most chill dudes. Like it's crazy because you guys watch our videos and you guys are like these fucking...

with all these bitches around you and just partying. And then after- - It's all entertainment. - It's good. No, I get it. I get it. Trust me. The bunny that you see online is not the bunny that you see in person. So I totally understand. - Hard to maintain that image, you know, when you're taking out the trash.

That could be hot, though. You guys could do a Moonshine Band that's only fans. My wife knows how to bring me back to reality real quick. You know what I mean? Wife's like, no, I'm not fucking around with you, boy. Yeah. No, it's cool. It's definitely cool. No, I love it. Well, I just want to thank you guys so much for coming on the podcast. Thanks for having us. Why don't you shout out where everybody can find you, like your YouTubes, your social medias, just whatever you want.

All these bitches are going to be sliding in your DMs after this, so why ifs I apologize. Just check out moonshinebandits.com. Is that it? Yeah. It was nice how you went into the mic to say it. I did that a couple times. But yeah, moonshinebandits.com. Come see the show if you've never seen the show.

It's a way to escape. You're going to have a lot of fun. We encourage a lot of crowd participation. So a lot of chicks get on stage and dance and have a good time. No dudes. You didn't even tell Bunny about your baloney 5,000th show. No, that's your story, Bill. That's your story. What is it? What is it? Let me hear. No, I just messed up. What is it? You got some story. I want to hear. Back in the day when we were first starting off, after the show, we'd line up girls in our hotel room and everybody would have packs of baloney.

throw them at their ass. Oh, well, whoever's baloney stuck the longest would win. Yeah. Should we do that? Okay. So when you guys leave here, I'm having my first annual whore Olympics. Okay. Listen, that's her rant. Sorry.

So five beautiful females, I was going to say five bitches, but five beautiful females will be coming here today. And what they're going to do is it's pretty much like my own personal beauty pageant, but like...

With my own spin on it. Fuck, you probably need some judges. Yeah, well, we do. And I mean, you guys, what do you think, Mimi? You think we'll have enough microphones? I don't know. We'll figure it out. Hey, we don't even have to be on a microphone. So these girls, the first challenge that they have is called...

Holy smokes. And they have to take this kielbasa and they have a choice between their three holes. Who can take it the deepest and which hole can happen on this table? Yes. And the next one is, um,

Glory holes. And what it is, is we have a pack of hot dogs that are like 16 hot dogs. And they have to put their hands behind their backs and get on their knees. And we're throwing it at their face. And it's going to be filmed in slow motion. And whoever can catch the most hot dogs in their mouth wins that challenge. I don't know why, but this is reminding me of Mike Busey. Shut up, Mike. We love Mike. Shut up, Mike.

Mike's coming on the podcast too. He'll be good. Oh, I love Mike. We partied at his house once. No, I love Mike too. That reminds me of Sturges. That reminds me of the hot dog thing on the road. And then the last one, they have to suck peanut butter off of an eggplant in under a minute. And whoever sucks the most peanut butter off wins. Cancel dinner plans. The grand prize though is the real catch. They get a $40 gift certificate to Chick-fil-A and a microwave.

Michael is. That's a good gift. That's the gift to keep on warming your food up, Clark. Not even a air fryer. Just a microwave. So yeah, that's what's going down after we get done with this podcast. But thank you guys so much for coming on. I think you guys are sweethearts. Shout out to you, Bunny. Shout out to Jelly. Love you guys. Thank you for having us. We appreciate it. Love you guys. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.