Mistress Neena: BDSM, Kink, and a Bath of Buttery Noodles
44:53 Share

This season, Instacart has your back to school. As in, they've got your back to school lunch favorites, like snack packs and fresh fruit. And they've got your back to school supplies, like backpacks, binders, and pencils. And they've got your back when your kid casually tells you they have a huge school project due tomorrow.

Let's face it, we were all that kid. So first call your parents to say I'm sorry, and then download the Instacart app to get delivery in as fast as 30 minutes all school year long. Get a $0 delivery fee for your first three orders while supplies last. Minimum $10 per order. Additional terms apply.

Achieving a gorgeous grin from home isn't a total mystery with BiteClear aligners. Just don't be surprised if all of your sleuthing friends start asking, what's your secret? Begin by ordering your at-home impression kit today for only $14.95. BiteClear aligners are doctor-directed and delivered to your door.

Treatment costs thousands less than braces. Plus, they offer flexible financing, accept eligible insurance, and you can pay with your HSA FSA. Get 80% off your impression kit when you use code WONDERY at Byte.com. That's B-Y-T-E dot com. Start your confidence journey today with Byte. Is this thing on?

All right, gentlemen, coming to main stage next, this is Bunny. Get up there. She's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars. Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde.

I have a returning guest today that I am so happy that she's here. She literally was on the podcast when it first started, and I remember when she came on, I was so nervous because it was like one of my first interviews, and you were just so sweet. We met up in New York City, and you told me all about your dominatrix lifestyle. I think you even showed me how to crack a whip. Definitely.

Did I? I don't even remember. I don't remember. She's our resident dominatrix. Mistress Nina is back in the house. What's up, mama? Hey, thank you for having me.

It's so good to see you.

AKA, uh, a BDSM experiential architect. Yeah. I call myself on social media so they don't kick my ass off. Dude. Social media is a fucking nightmare. They just have it out for us. It's my girl who has a 10 million. She had 10 million on her account. Lost it today.

Like fucking heartbreak, dude. Insane, right? They just have, there's, I don't want to, I don't want to get into it. It makes my blood boil. Let's get, we'll talk about that later, but let's get back into who you are. So, so yeah. So the last time we spoke, I had been doming for about two years. And at that point, like I was, I was the re-listening to the podcast and I was like, oh my God, I was so like,

Timid. Me too. I was nervous too, though. Like, you know, and I feel like now we get to come revisit the relationship and like you've grown. So you're in Miami now. I'm in Miami now. Yeah. Okay. How do you go from New York to Miami? Um,

My boyfriend... She's like very easily. Very easily, especially during the pandemic. I mean, I'm a New Yorker through and through. Like I grew up there. Were you born there? Born in Brooklyn. Okay. Born and raised, baby. Yeah. And then I moved to London for a while. I think I mentioned that last time. Moved back. And then I met my boyfriend. He's from Jersey. And he just...

He's not a New Yorker. Right. Like, he fucking hated it. There are some people who, like, they love how fast-paced it is. And he loved certain aspects. And then COVID hit. And he was like, get me the fuck out of here. Well, he's from Jersey. So you would think that he would be... Jersey's more laid back, for sure, and rural. Yeah. It's... Right. There's trees and stuff. But, you know, like, New York is literally right over the bridge, right? Yeah. I mean, he went into the city sometimes. But he wanted to move to California. And so I was like, I can't fucking do that. So I will...

Miami. Yeah. Miami is dope. Yeah. I love it here. What is it? Sin City? No, that's Vegas. That's Vegas. Yeah. Magic City? You don't want to live in Vegas either. Magic City is Atlantic City. Atlanta. I don't even... Right? Oh, God. I'm really not representing Miami. It's okay, but you're not from here, so who cares? Right. So you guys decided to move here during the pandemic? Yeah. Was there like... Was the dom scene just...

Well, explain to me the relationship with you and your boyfriend, because last time you were on, you guys didn't really talk about it. It was more like hush hush. So let me hear about this. How long have you guys been? Is it a relationship? Yeah. He's my boyfriend. Okay. He's also my submissive. Oh, very cool. Yeah. We definitely have a DS dynamic going on, which means dominant submissive. Okay. Capital D, lowercase s.

How does that work? Does that get exhausting like every day or? Okay. Well, I say it's a DS relationship, but it's DS in the bedroom and there's like flirtiness around it. But like he very much has his own opinions, makes his own decisions. Right, right, right. Sometimes I wish he didn't have so many opinions. You're like, shut up, submissive. Yeah. I don't think you're supposed to follow what I want. Yeah. No, it's like it's for the most part a pretty normal relationship.

relationship. Um, but the thing that ties us together and is a really strong rock and like keeps us really connected is our interest in kink. Like it's like a strong running theme throughout the relationship. Okay. When you say interesting kink, cause a lot of people, especially like me, I'm learning about it and naive to it. What does that entail? Uh, kink. Yeah. Like what is like your guys's kink?

She's like, all of it? No, so he's actually... We definitely have very specific kinds of play. Like, when I dom professionally, I cater to a lot of different things. When you say professionally, you mean, like, somebody's paying you for your services? Yeah, exactly. I just want to clarify with everybody at home. Yes, yes. Somebody's paying for my services. In my personal relationship, like, he definitely...

I mean, I guess I'll just talk about what he's into. Okay. So he's very much into objectification and being like put to use to make things

me happy. Okay. Whether it, and a lot of the times it's sexually like, yeah, with him, I sleep with him. I don't sleep with my clients. So with him, it's very like, he likes to be a table for me. He likes to be a footrest. He likes to give me a massage to make me feel good. Right. So he's all about like, um, acts of service kind of. Yeah. But objectification is very, it's more specifically like almost turning him into like a,

an object of, it's like, I'll sit on his face and his face is my throne now. Right. What a useful face. He's such a good boy. And do you say that to him? Yeah. Oh my God. I'm going to say that to Jay. I'm totally going to steal that. Oh, such a good throne. Such a good, such a good face. I love that. And that like, that he'll, that'll make his day. Yeah. He loves that. We also do a little bit of like, he's, I call him my dog because he's like a

a really energetic puppy sometimes. So we do some puppy play too. Do you put him on a leash and stuff? Oh yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Does he walk around like a dog?

You mean like crawler? Yeah. Like is that his thing? Sometimes. Because I've seen like some doms do that. Like, you know, they walk there and they have like the things over their heads and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, I think that our staples in our relationship are like a collar, a leash, a crop. Just because it's very dom-y. Right. It's more just like the look of it. He's not into pain at all. Right. For him, it's very psychological and very like...

He just, he loves ass worship. Like every other, every other man. You worshiping his ass or the vice? Okay. She's like, uh, no, no, no, no. And my face does not go anywhere near there. Listen, some people are, I've licked a few assholes in my life. Like I said, everyone has what they're into. So what, can I ask what you're into? Like, what do you, okay. I mean, I love everything that him and I do, but, um, I mean, I think I talked about splashing last time. Yes. And, um,

I actually splashed. Did you? With the cake, right? That's what the cake. Oh, yeah, that's right. You did. Yeah, yeah. I did for OnlyFans, for my OnlyFans. And it was crazy. It was weird. But people were into it. Like, that was their thing. Did it feel weird? Did it get all over everything? Well, so this cake was frozen. Oh, no. We didn't know until I sat in it. And it was, like, so hard. But it was, like...

exhilarating at the same time. Like it was like, I'm doing something that I would never have been allowed to do. Even growing up as a child, you don't, your parents are like, don't put your hands in the cake, but here's my whole ass in a cake. You know, don't, don't ruin the pretty. Yeah. The aesthetic. Okay. So you talked about splashing. So recently, listen, I have a lot of different things that I'm interested in. I think last time as well, like I'm interested in things that are taboo. Like, um, is there any new things?

Well, that has popped up for some reason. I just can't get out of my head. The idea of like a kiddie pool.

full of buttery spaghetti and just like it's not sexual for me yeah per se it's more like a sensational thing or like fantasy well yeah it's more just like i feel like the sensation of buttery noodles would be really good and like sexual it would be very sexy it would be a sexy visual right and like doing that with i think for me splashing with another woman is really sexy because i'm bisexual i don't know what else am i into

I went to a lot of different things. What do you guys do specifically with each other? We mostly, mostly kind of what I was talking about before, sort of like some puppy play and sort of objectification. And that's, yeah, that's sort of our main thing. But I actually, last time I said that I don't like, that I don't switch. And since then I've sort of,

been exploring not fully switching necessarily. Let's explain what switch is for the new, the new listeners. Cause I know a lot of people are new here, so they're probably like, what the hell is switch mean? Yes. Okay. So there's like people who are dominant, there are people who are submissive and then people who do both. Yeah. I think I could be a switch hitter for sure. Yeah, definitely. Totally. I think that most people are, have some level of switch in them. Um,

So it's not just dominant and submissive, though. There's also topping and bottoming. So these are other two terms which often get confused. So topping and bottoming would be person who's on top, and bottoming would be the person who's on the bottom? Kind of. In the gay world, that's very much what it is. And in the kink world...

Topping and bottoming is like if you're, if somebody's spanking me, I'm the bottom. And the person who is spanking me is the top. Okay. But I don't necessarily need to be submitting to them. Like submitting to someone means that you're kind of giving up all control and you're doing it to please them as much as you're doing it for yourself. And so I actually like to bottom. I don't really like to submit. So like I like to bottom for very specific things.

Right. Which I like to be, I like spanking, actually. Like, I really love, like, really thuddy. Even a naughty girl. Yeah.

Well, for me, it's not even the verbal. It's like pure sensation. Oh, you just like the tingly of just like the tinge of pain. Yeah. Like you don't really need to say shit. Like you can keep your mouth shut. Yeah. Just beat me. Beat my ass. I want to see handprints. Yeah. Well, there are different kinds of sensations. There are stingy sensations, which are way more kind of topical. And I don't know. You can imagine what stingy means. Right. Yeah. And then thuddy is deeper. It's almost like a deep tissue massage. So that would be like a heavier. Yeah. It's like a different...

impact instruments. You know, like there are whips, there are floggers, like a whip is a single tail and that's really stingy. A flogger usually has multiple tails and depending on the material, it can be stingy or thuddy or both. And then something like a, I don't know, I have this baton that's really padded and that's just pure thud.

So it's like thick and it's just like, yeah, it's kind of soft. Gotcha. It has like some weight to it. Right. Yeah. Is it the sound effects too that are simulating for you? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for sure. So moving to Miami, how has that affected your professional dumb situation? Um,

Is there a lot of, is there a market for that out here? There is a market for it out here. You know, it's interesting. There are way more people, I think, in Fort Lauderdale and like Delray, I guess. The rich areas. Yeah, I guess so. And I'm trying to set up shop in Miami proper because there actually isn't, there are no dungeons in Miami. Wow.

Wow. At all. Wow. Which, if you look at New York, I mean, if you know where to look. Yeah. New York is like, there's so many doms. Yeah. There's so many dungeons. It's just a different life out there. And you have to think, in New York, there's so many, like, CEOs, rich people who want to be dominated. Yeah. You know. But here, I mean, a lot of people have moved down here. And a lot of people come down here to...

for tax reasons. You know what I mean? They're in the market. Yeah. They're in the market for a fresh Dom. Exactly. No, and the Doms who are down here are amazing. Yeah. I've gotten to know some of them. Do you guys just like instantly bond together? Like, hey, I'm a Dom, you're a Dom, let's be friends. Yeah, it's definitely, I mean, obviously not everyone gets along, but I, whenever I move, whenever I go anywhere, so I go on tour a lot.

Especially now since I'm kind of just setting up in Florida. Right. When you say tour, that means you go visit different cities. Different cities, exactly. I used to tour when I was an escort. It was fun. It is fun. It's also exhausting, though. Very exhausting. Because you're literally... You're working. You're literally...

in hotel rooms doing what you got to do or dungeons in your case. And, you know, it's, you're there. It's a lot of energy that you're entertaining. Were there ever any, like, I don't want to say turf wars, but like, were, did you ever have issues with other escorts who felt like you were kind of,

in their territory. Um, no, the only time that ever happened to me was whenever I moved to Nashville and I had a couple of the girls email me and they were just like, you're not welcome here, blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, bitch, I'm going to take all your money.

Do you want to have that attitude and you don't want to be, Oh, sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm like, if you don't want to be girl gang, we then it's instant competition. But then I had other girls email me. Sorry about that. I had other girls email me and they wanted to be friends because I feel like if you, if,

you guys are in the same industry it's so much better to band together yeah absolutely then you know i would say for two i mean you could i mean listen if you don't think that we all talk about clients like oh yeah like we all know what's going on yes exactly i would have and i actually did

when I was in the industry, I would have so many girls reach out to me and be like, Hey, I'm about to see so-and-so. How do you feel about him? And I would always, we give like reviews on clients that we saw. And you know, sometimes I'd be like, hell no, don't see that dude. Or other times I'd be like, he's amazing. He'll, you'll get, I got this much out of him. Try to get more. It's a really important part of our industry. I think it's like us supporting each other and giving each other heads up. And it has saved me from some pretty like shitty situation or like potentially like

shitty situation. Yeah. Have you ever had a scary situation happen? So I did have a pretty scary experience when I first started and I didn't really know how to advocate for myself or say no.

it was a really weird situation. I had a guy who basically like, I didn't even, I didn't even have a dungeon to work out. I met him at this party. He said, Oh, I want to submit to you and I know where we can play. And I was like, Oh great. Well you can show me the dungeon and then maybe show me how to use some of the stuff in the dungeon. Cause he actually, he was a switch. Okay. So we set up a session and, um, basically, um,

Halfway through the session, he switched on me. Like, I asked him to show me how some of this stuff works, but I didn't want him to show it on me. Right. Show it to me, like, on me. And so I ended up with, like, my hands bound. Oh, no. And, like, I was saying no. But he thought it was part of the act? I don't know. No. He just ignored me. He was abusing the situation. He was abusing the situation. Thankfully, I knew I wasn't in serious danger because, like, right outside of the door, there was another mistress. Right. But...

For some reason, I was so new to the scene and I didn't want to like make a scene that I just kept quiet. But that sucks that you have to feel like that, you know, that you can't have a voice because you don't want to be known as like the troublemaker, the newbie that's coming in to cause trouble. I mean, that's I think the biggest thing I learned as a dom was how to say no to people. Just to be like, no, this is not what I want. You know, put your foot down and

That is something that as women, I think a lot of women have trouble with. A lot of people have trouble with. But women in particular, like we...

are kind of just our boundaries are always crossed and we always either have to accept it or and if you speak up for yourself then you're a bitch yeah exactly and it's really frustrating and i always had a lot of trouble with that you never want to disappoint people yeah you also don't want to like put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation yeah insulting the wrong person anyway thankfully nothing serious happened but it was um

Yeah. Learning experience. Yeah. And also it was the one time that I didn't trust my gut. Oh, that. Yep. I, that anytime I've ever done that, I've always been fucked. Yeah. Always trust the gut. Always. You actually changed my mind about dominatrix. Um, I was telling Mo about it cause Mo's actually really interested in the lifestyle. Um, yeah, for sure. Um, and,

I always thought that you guys had to be like aggressive and, you know, just like yell and scream and do as I say, not as I do type of situation. And when you came in, you were just so calm and just like sexy about it. And I was like, dude, that's so hot because normally when people think about dominatrix, they think about cracking whips and stuff like that. Um, do you feel like being a dom has helped you with your sensuality? Um,

Uh, yeah, yes. Or were you always just like super sensual? I've always been pretty sensual. Yeah. I think if anything, it has just informed how I dom, like who I am as a person. I think that there is sort of like

Yeah, I that is very much who I am. Yeah, I like to seduce consent Consistently seduce consent right and that's how I sort of like push my clients right and push them and they're I don't say push boundaries because I never will step over boundaries But um, that's another question so that for all the new people who are here and you know You guys can always go back to Nina's episode. It's episode 11 I always keep forgetting that episode 11 you can listen to a lot of this too. But what is it actually?

actually your, I don't want to say job title requirements to be a dom, but what is it that you do as a dom? Like your services? Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I've kind of created the term BDSM experiential architect because that's what it is. I'm basically creating a little world for me and this other person. And I, I'm the designer, I am the actress, I am, um,

Yeah, I'm bringing somebody into a little world and hoping to create a world where the rest of the world melts away. Right. And it's very much tailored to whatever that person is interested in. Obviously, I have things that I'm very interested in as well. And I like to find the overlap. That's sort of where we play, is like my interests and their interests and the overlap. Right.

But I deal with fetishes. I deal with power dynamics. Like, do you do the... I think I asked you this before, but do you do the financial...

I do. I do. That's something that would interest me. Yeah. Give me all your money. Let's just fucking not even bullshit. Yeah. I don't think money, no matter what money is an important part of the power dynamic. Money is the motive of what behind everything that we're doing. Yeah. A lot of things. I think that anybody who thinks that like a pro dom is being fake because it's all about money. It's like, no, it just is part of the service. And it's also part of the power dynamic. Like there is an unattainability. And to me, like,

Like, yeah. Okay. So, so with financial domination, somebody who is sending me their money, it's an act of service. For some people it's humiliation, but the way that I look at it is it's an act of service. Right. It's, it's a way to make my life better and to lift me up and put me on a pedestal. And it just sort of adds to that power dynamic. Absolutely. Yeah. So, um,

When you moved from New York to Miami, have you found it hard to kind of find your place out here? Oh my God. No, really? Well, no, it's for, it's for different reasons. So I, I don't have a driver's license. I'm a New Yorker. Yeah. A lot of you guys don't have licenses. It's the, yeah. Trying to get around for me is like a whole thing. I'm so used to in New York. Like I have my service subs, which is like a service submissive. I'll have like,

them chauffeur me around. Yeah. I haven't like quite found a service sub in Miami yet. Anybody watching, we need service subs in Miami. We need service subs in Miami. Mistress Nina needs you. Yes, I've got, I've got positions open to clean my toilet, to clean my house, to drive me around. Did you have people like that in New York? Oh yeah. That just came and just did whatever you wanted? Yes. And like pretty much was just like, hey, I need a ride here. You're going to take me here. Hey, you're going to come and clean my house today. Yeah. And a lot of the times the, the,

The people that were doing service for me, some of them, they weren't actually sessioning with me. And so for the one, like I'm actually very high protocol when it comes to service. And I learned this about myself. High protocol means that I have a very specific way I like things. Right. And if you're not going to session with me, because to me, that's how you...

There's the financial aspect of that. Right. Like giving back to me and my life and us playing. I have very strict ways that I do things. Right. Like you are here to clean. You are not here to jerk off in the bathroom. Right. Pictures of me or whatever. Like that's not what it's about. So they get off on servicing you, like coming and cleaning your house and stuff like that. Yeah. There are different...

so some people do, but it's, it's a different kind of getting off. Okay. There's sort of the, um, there's a heart high that people can get, you know, like when you do a good deed for someone else, it makes you feel good. Um, it's like if you're in a relationship and you cook and clean for your significant other, it makes you feel good and warm and whatever. So there's that side of it. Okay. Um,

And then with the control, I mean, if I tell my service sub, you are not allowed to make eye contact with me for the next three hours. You are not allowed to be taller than three feet. You have to be this short. Does that mean that they crawl? They crawl. Or, you know, anytime I'm in the room, you always need to be shorter than me. Have you ever made somebody slither? I think I would just...

I think I would make somebody slither. Oh, you'd be good at that. Just slither, you fucking pansy. Worm. Just wriggle on the ground for me.

Can you do that? Is that something you can do? Listen, I could be a dom. I've never made my service sub do that. You gotta do it now. Well, they wouldn't get very much done if they were just running around on the ground. I've made foot subs do it because they were kind of already on the ground. I call someone, oh, you foot worm. You're just beneath my feet. You're like the dirt or whatever.

Do you ever crack up laughing while you're doing this? Absolutely. I would literally have to like probably just start laughing, like just be an evil like witch while I'm doing that. These people probably be like, she's fucking insane. Don't ever book a session with her because all she does is laugh the entire time. Well, that's the best thing about humiliation is like,

With humiliation, they're there to entertain me. And if you're not doing something that makes me laugh to entertain me, that's not the kind of humiliation that I like. Yeah. And I've come up with some pretty evil, fun evil. I need to hear one of your wildest stories. Has anything happened in the two years that I haven't seen you that...

I must know about. Okay, well, something really exciting happened in my personal life. Okay. This actually has to do with one of my interests. Okay. I'm really into cuckolding. Oh, okay. Explain what cuckolding is so that people at home know what it is. Yeah, so cuckolding is when you deny someone else...

with you and you kind of like dangle it in front of their face. And they're not allowed to ejaculate or anything, right? Or can they? It kind of depends on the person. I always thought it was they weren't allowed to cum or something. That is just orgasm control and denial, which is often mixed in. But it's not just denying someone something. It's basically getting fucked in front of them or telling them about having sex

intercourse and sex with someone else and denying it from them and sort of, yeah. Yeah. But so basically, is your boyfriend into that? No. Okay. I, he is just grown so much in the past few years. Like our relationship is really blossomed and he has grown so much more. He's way more comfortable with this lifestyle. We think it,

beginning to explore more you had to teach you had to train them yeah you pretty much yeah and it takes time but i have also learned a lot as well and i've grown a lot and learned how to handle my jealousy and give it's a give and take right right totally um anyway so i had this sub who he's a client but like he he would he was bottoming for me for a performance that i did recently

And basically he didn't, he couldn't go back to where he lived. He, we decided to invite him to come stay with us at the hotel. And I had been edging my boyfriend for three days, which means that I didn't let him come for three days. Okay. So that's what it's called edging when you don't, well, edging is like you get like,

They jerk off to the point of coming. Oh, okay. But then they're not allowed to come. Don't you get like massive blue balls doing that? I don't care. I don't think that's real. I think blue balls are made up by men to try to convince women to make them, like, yeah, help them ejaculate. That is hilarious. I mean, listen, I don't know. I'm not a guy, so I don't have balls. We don't have balls, so we're just speculating. Yeah, exactly. But...

So yeah, my boyfriend, I'd been telling him to edge. So I was like, all right, on day one, you edge once. On day two, you edge twice. And by day three, I think he'd edged three times and like, he starts going crazy. At that point, like I walk into a room

he immediately gets hard. Poor baby. Yeah. And then I like it that way. It's like, so you're ready whenever I want you to be ready. And I deny you until I want you. Yeah. Um, is it hard for you to deny him? Like, or yeah, sometimes it's like so hot that he just wants you that bad. Yeah. He's so sexy too. Oh, I love that. Um, so you invited this guy to come stay with you. Yeah. Just after this performance and we went to this kink party, um,

I invited him to stay with us. She says it so casually. Just, we went to this king party. It's called Bound. It's in New York. It's amazing, by the way. And my boyfriend was like, yeah, I don't know. Like, maybe he can come stay with us. But only if he's like...

if he can sleep on the floor. And I was like, yeah, of course he's going to sleep on the floor. Like he's not allowed in the bed. At all. So does your boyfriend, is your boy, does your boyfriend, is he bi also? He's not bi. Okay. And so that was the thing that was so amazing about this experience was like, he's never really been interested in cuckolding or having another guy really involved. But because he was just so,

like he was not desperate, but he was, he'd been denied for so long. Right. Right. He, he started having these ideas. Yeah. He would have never had before. You need to do this more often. Oh, we found the secret sauce. Getting what I want. Um, and it's similar to chastity. It's basically like chastity without the cage. So chastity is, yeah. A chastity cage is like a metal device you put on somebody's cock and you lock it up. Yep.

You don't hold the key. Hold the key. I was going to say throw away the key. Don't throw away the key. Yeah. You gotta let them out sometimes. Yeah. But so my boyfriend was like, I don't know, maybe we can cuckold him. I was like, okay. I wanted to do this forever. And so we got back from this party and...

Of course, my boyfriend's immediately hard just because he'd been denied for so long. And I put this guy in the corner and he's in a chastity cage. The guy is? Yeah, my sub is. My boyfriend's also submissive, but they're basically like...

My Barbie dolls. Right. Right. It's like I am controlling the whole situation. Right. I'm telling my boyfriend how I want him to fuck me, how I want him to please me while I'm looking this other person in the face. Right. And saying, you're not allowed to have me. Yeah. Don't you dare. You know, oh, don't don't look at me now.

I'm turned on. Is anybody else touching themselves under the table? Because I am. It was super hot. No, that is fucking really hot. So what happened? I need more details. So your boyfriend ended up banging you and the dude had to watch? Yeah, and then we had ordered pizza. And so the pizza came. And so I sent myself down to get the pizza.

That is hilarious. Actually, he missed the finale, kind of. My boyfriend came, like, while he was... Oh, no. I can't even believe he was able to bang you, like, and didn't, like, instantly nut the minute you guys started banging. No, no. He's good. He's well-trained. Oh, good. But the pizza came, and I held the condom off my boyfriend, and I just...

poured it on my sub's piece of pizza. I was like, here, you can have this piece. And did he eat it? Yeah. Oh my God. She said, yeah, bitch. Like that. Of course. I love that. He's an obedient one. I wouldn't have allowed him in this situation so intimately into my life. Has he been around for a while? He has been. And he, the only reason why he's gotten this far and gotten so many privileges, like being able to perform with me and meeting my boyfriend is because he never asks for anything. Aw. He will do whatever.

Yeah. Whatever I tell him to do. I love that. And he's scared of me. I love that. That is awesome, dude. Do you get a lot of loyal subs or do you get the ones that are like wishy-washy? It's a mixture. Yeah. I'm so lucky to have, I call it my stable. I have a great stable. I've got my collared sub, Robert, who is like amazing and adorable.

Yeah. And he's very service oriented. And Robert and my boyfriend get along well. Oh, good. I love that your boyfriend's in on it too. Yeah. This is awesome. I mean, at this point you have, you know, this kind of lifestyle. It's a lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. But it's really cool. Like, I think of Robert as like, he's like a pet. Like, I adore him and he brings so much joy to my life and I care for him. Yeah. And we have, you know.

It's a cool relationship. I know it's weird to talk about a person like a pet, but it's... No, but it's your lifestyle. Yeah, it's a lifestyle. Do you ever catch yourself, like, maybe catching feelings for your subs because they have been in your life for so long? Because I know, like, whenever I had sugar daddies back in the day, fucking...

It was hard to not... I don't want to say fall in love with them because you're never in love with them, but it's hard to not look at them almost like a father figure. Like, thank you for what you have done for me and all that you've given me. I have a lot of empathy for my subs, and I definitely give a lot and can develop deep relationships with them, but my relationship with my partner is so... Strong. Strong. He was actually a client. Right. So...

So yeah, I mean, of course I've fallen in love with a client before, but it's very situational. Like I'm very loyal, very, very loyal. And I would never jeopardize that. Jeopardize that. Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Cause I have it so good. I definitely have a lot of, a lot to give and a lot of, I can get attached to subs simply because they are, you know, we have great chemistry, but it's, it's so different. Right. It's, it's,

It's very, it's a very different kind of relationship. I get it. It's just like an escort and a trick relationship. I totally understand that. But even like, even with the sugar daddy situation, it's like you love them, but there's always that wall there. Like, you know that you can't cross that, that boundary. I think it's, it's more like, no, I actually get very involved with my sub lives. Do you? I can. And so it's more like I'm trying to, I get, what's the word?

I'm invested in making their lives better. Okay. And that's how I get invested. Okay. It's not like a... It's not just turning a trick or... Obviously, with some people it is. Right. And there is... There are boundaries. But a lot of the times it's like, I will put in the extra times with certain people to make sure that they're emotionally taken care of and okay. Do you feel that people that are in this...

Is that what it's called? Like that you're kink? Yeah. Do you feel like people that are in this kink, are they a little bit more mentally fragile because of what they're looking for? In the kink world. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know if I'm using the right terminology. I always want to be respectful. There's so much terminology. I know. I can't keep... Dude, everything is like there's... Especially now, like everything has a label and it's like it's so hard to decipher which one goes where. So I always want to respect everybody's thing that they have going on. Yeah, totally. I'll correct you. Yeah. I like it. Are people more fragile? I don't know. I don't think so. I think that the only reason why...

People might hide things or... Because do you feel like... Okay, I guess let me rephrase that. Because...

this type of kink is so taboo, I guess now still, even like though Dom dominatrix has been around forever. It, it's still like people don't, it's still hush hush. Whereas like escorts and you know, hose it's literally mainstream because of rap music, you know? Do you feel like people are in kind of like a different mental state because they are looking to be dominated? Yeah.

It's not about being dominated. It's about the shame that comes with the things that are viewed as abnormal. So I wouldn't say that people wanting to be dominated means that they are emotionally fragile. I think it's that people want to be dominated because it's fun. Right. And they hide it and they end up having...

or they end up feeling anxious about it or hiding it from people because of the stigma around it. And one of the biggest things that I try to break through is shame with my clients. I'm trying to create a space where you are not judged. You can't say whatever you want. You can say what I approve of. I'm not going to judge you. We can have an open conversation about it. Why do you feel like there is such a stigma around...

dominatrix and submissives and stuff like that. I don't know. I, for looking, being on the inside, looking out, it doesn't make any sense to me. Right. Like I feel like I'm a wizard and everyone else are muggles. I mean, I'm like, don't you all want like a wand? I don't understand. I feel like you're so cutting edge. Like really, I don't understand why they haven't even like done a Netflix special on you. Like it's so interesting. The lifestyle. It's actually a pretty big,

I think more people have kinks and finishes than... Oh, tons. So many people. And there's so many different ones. There's so many different kinds. Yeah. It's insane. It's endless. Yeah. So you said something new happened in your personal life. Are we allowed to talk about it? Something...

Oh, that was what I was talking about. Oh, okay. Okay, that. Okay. Which for me, like, cuckolding has been talked about before. Okay. And I guess, like, people have heard of it. Yeah. But for me, in my relationship, it was exciting. Yeah. Because I'd wanted to do it for so long. So when you're going on tour, what cities are you going to? Are you going back to New York? Are you going, like, just every... Why haven't you come to Nashville? I feel like it would be big in Nashville. I'm only coming to Nashville when you're there, boo. Dude, come on.

Oh, my God. I would love to introduce you to my husband, too. I'd love to. Jay will love you to death. Dude, you can come anytime. Thank you. We'll talk about it. We're always there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Now, I'm in New York a lot because I have a lot of regulars there. I've got my personal sub, my college sub. Yeah. And then I go to Boston a lot. And Boston, you wouldn't really expect it, but it's so... The places that are the most...

conservative yeah or conservative in a way that's sort of like repressed like it's super waspy right sorry i love that word waspy waspy yeah like buttoned up everyone went to harvard oh yeah you know and um and they're rich those motherfuckers out there are rich yeah there's good there's good i had a couple clients out there yeah but it's frank hey frank hey frank i could actually probably plug you in do you have frank too

He just got out of prison. Shit. Well, let's talk. I'm telling you, dude. I got to introduce you to Frank. He will love you. Oh, my God. Amazing. So what can we expect from Mistress Nina in this next year? In the next year? Well, I'm trying to set up a space here. Yes. I don't want to talk about it too much because it's like...

You don't want somebody to steal the... Well, no. I'm like, I'm afraid if I talk about it, it's not going to happen. Right. It's like so delicate. Right. The goal is to set up a play space in Miami. Mm-hmm.

And it can be like a photo studio, but also have it be a place where people can kind of rent out. Like if you're a couple, you can rent it out and kind of play there and stay there for a night or two. Also experience Miami. But then it's also a place for doms to come and stay and play. So it's a play space. Yeah.

slash like apartment. Is it like a dungeon? What exactly is a dungeon when you say that? Dungeon's a play space. Okay. Okay, cool. A dungeon and a play space are the same thing. It's just I say play space because I think it's a little bit more contemporary. Yeah. Dungeon reminds... No, I just wanted to make sure that it was like... Yeah, it's the same thing. Okay, gotcha. Dungeons are like... I mean, there are very dungeon-y dungeons in New York and all around. Oh, I could imagine. Oh my God. There's one called Pandora's Box, which is very...

Like they have different themed rooms, which is really fun. They've got like a wrestling room. Yeah. And they've got like a, I would like to do that. The wrestling room. That would be fun. Yeah. Break my fucking neck, but I self go out fucking having a blast. Oh, it's a huge industry. I actually don't really do wrestling. Yeah. No, I've seen like guys like to get their head squeezed in between thighs and stuff like that.

For sure. How does somebody pick up that kink? Skull crusher. Like, is that something that comes from childhood? Not that I'm shaming it. I'm just asking, like, you know, how do you figure out that that's what you like? With anything you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Well, some people it's from childhood. Like there are certain, I don't know. Yeah. With some people it's just always been there. Yeah. My boyfriend, his ex.

fetishes and his kinks have just kind of always been what he's been interested in. Right. Like he doesn't, he doesn't like no sex. There always has to be a power dynamic. Yeah.

And I'm kind of the same way. Other people end up just exploring later on. I guess I'm the same way too. I like to be dominated in bed. I do have a kink though. You guys, you guys are ready to hear this. And I never realized it was a kink until after we had met and you had told me, you know, like kinks can be pretty much anything. I love oiled up sex.

I was just going to say, you were saying wrestling. I was like, dude, oiled up there. I love like when I'm watching porn, they, I can't watch dry sex. It irritates me seeing dry bodies. I'm like, that looks like it hurts. Like I want to see you lubed up and shiny. That was amazing. Dude, bitches look so hot when they're like, Oh,

I don't even care about the dudes. Like bitch is just like, so it was just everything like so gleaming. I remember one time I was having sex with this dude and I was so shit face. I went in my bathroom and fucking, I always used to have a bottle bottles of baby oil, poured baby oil all over myself, all over him, all over my bed. He's like, he's like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, just fuck me. And he was like, the next morning we woke up and he's like, that was the hottest thing I've ever seen in my life. And when you're into it, like you're into it. Yeah. Everybody can

feel that. No, totally. So that's my kink, guys. I think you guys have heard me talk about that before, but yeah, totally my kink. Another one of mine is I mean, I say bimbification, but I used to always imagine what I would look like and having sex with a woman who has really big fake boobs and a really quite similar

It's similar to here. Yeah, baby. See, these are real now. Oh, last time I saw you, I had my fake boobs in. Yeah, I had my implants taken out. You don't have any implants in there? No implants. These are my natural. They're just swollen right now. They still look amazing. My friend actually has that same exact kink. She loves just...

Big fake boobies. And then oil them up. Yeah. Oh, God. All of it. You know, I have a girl coming on the podcast. What's her name? Mary XO. And she's into that bimbo body modification. I'll have to send you her Instagram so that you guys can link. She's out here. She'll be out here. I'm always looking for new friends out here. Yeah, yeah. Totally. So I'll link you guys. I used to imagine what it would be like. So I liked women with bodies like that. But then I also would imagine what my body would look like like that.

Beautiful. I mean, you're beautiful now. So I did get a boob job since then. Did you? They're very, they're very, they're very small. Can I see him? I want to see him. I don't know. This is on Patreon. So. Oh, perfect. Those are beautiful. Thanks. I love those. Thank you. How was it? So I had such a great surgeon. Oh, good. So good. But I. They're perfect. They fit your body so good. Well, for having a boobification fetish, I kept it very,

very realistic. Yeah. Well, that's good though because I went too big and so I ended up having like scar tissue and just your boobs get bigger as you age too. It's like your back too, right? I am built like a fucking linebacker. I never had back problems. Everybody always says that and I'm like, I never had back problems. But what happens is like the scar tissue just starts building your tits more and more and mine went from a D to a double D to an E. Like it was bad. They were huge. Did it like encapsulate? Yeah.

So my implant folded inside my left boob and scar tissue, the size of like a lobster claw, like grew in between it. So I was in surgery. Mimi was there. I was in surgery for like an hour more of them cutting out all the scar tissue. And even like, I can still feel where they cut the scar tissue off. Yeah. So it was no fun. There's always a risk attached with surgery. Totally. Half my boob is still kind of numb. Oh yeah. It'll take a minute. When did you get them done?

Like almost a year ago? Like nine months ago? Yeah. So I got mine removed in November of 2019, right? And I'm still numb on my left side right here. It takes a little while. Yeah. Everything's got to reattach. Things we do for beauty. I know. It's crazy. Or fetishes. And everybody's like, just love yourself. But then everybody else online tells you what to do with yourself. So it's like, how can we love ourselves when you guys are telling us 20,000 different things? I also think that my mom was convinced for a really long time. She's very anti-surgery, very anti-

and Botox, whatever. But she was convinced that if you have anything done, like you hate yourself. And like, I actually never, I don't hate myself at all. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with enhancing yourself. I have people come for me all day long, especially on Tik TOK. Oh, you're fake. If you were really happy with yourself, you wouldn't get work done. And it's like, no, I'm investing in myself. You know, like there's nothing wrong with being proud of your body and enhancing things that you want because you like everything.

the way a certain aesthetic looks. Yes. Yeah, totally. So if somebody wants to book with you, how would they do that? So you can reach out to me via my website, respectfully.

Listen to her. Listen. And I think I said last time, like always do your research when reaching out to a dom, you know, go on their Twitter, go on their Instagram, but to actually book, you can go to my website. It's www.missneena.com. So miss Nina DeVille.

And where else can they find you? Like Twitter, Instagram, all those places. Hopefully I'll be up for a little while longer. Yeah. Yeah. Instagram is, it's crazy. Even Twitter, honestly. Really? Oh yeah. I know so many people have gotten shut, shut down there. I don't understand how they're straight up porn on Twitter.

They eventually ended up getting shadow banned and like shut down. That's insane. Yeah, I know, but it is what it is. Yeah. Fucking the world is oppressing us sex workers, but we're still thriving. Sex work is literally the oldest fucking trade. It's not going anywhere at all. Like we're here to stay motherfuckers. We just need a payment processor. Yeah. That believes in us and doesn't charge us a high interest rate to fucking process those things.

Come on. Yeah, so my Instagram and my Twitter is at mistress underscore Nina and it's N-E-E-N-A.

Yay. So Nina, I'm going to have you come back, but not in two years. Okay. Okay. Like we have to make a deal. Like at least six, six, six months to a year. We'll do that, but not two years. And if anyone ever has any questions and you want to collect some questions and ask me like, you're always welcome. Okay, cool. Then we'll do that next time that you come on for sure. Yay. Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of dumb blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.