Mary Carey: Two Time California Governor Candidate Spills All - Part 1
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All right, gentlemen, coming to main stage next. This is Bunny. Get up there. She's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars. Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, I have the ultimate dumb blonde. That is not what I was going to say.

what I was going to say. You know what though? That's what I, I honestly, it's so funny because that's kind of when I created Mary Carey, like I was like, she has to be like this bubbly, like it was kind of like the persona I wanted her to be. Yeah, totally. But everything was always very calculated. Well, I don't know. The ultimate dumb blonde. No, the ultimate starlet and icon.

Mary Gary is what I was going to say. But I'm so happy that you're here. When I did name my podcast Dumb Blonde, it was tongue in cheek. Exactly. You know, because people look at us, they're like, oh, they got. And then they really believe it. I'm like, you know what? If I was really that dumb, like, would you have a podcast? Yeah. Would I be able to plan this? Like, you know what I mean? I'm really that dumb. Yeah. Only but only dumb people will think you're dumb. Exactly.

You know, like small minds discuss small things. That's what I always say. So let's do it. We have so much to unpack here. I know. Let's fucking dive in. If we don't do now, we'll catch up in Nashville. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm really excited about you coming out. Well, okay. And his sister's there. So I'm only going to do a few cities again of featuring. Yeah. I told them I'll do their Nashville club.

Yeah. He wants to see his sister. I want to see you. Oh, yay. No, I love it. So, okay. Let's tell everybody you're coming out to Nashville. When? I don't know the date yet, but basically because I mean, this is like skipping around because I'm going to run for governor again, which to be honest, like I, when I heard about the recall happening, I didn't know if I want, I didn't really want it to.

Right. Because I knew I had to do it again. Right. I was like, oh, so much work. Like, thank God I like kept my place in California, kept myself a California resident solely because I have the best license picture. Yeah. 2005. Dude. And I'm like, I don't want to switch that. Not only that, it's like the written test scares me. I failed the written test four times in LA. Yeah. And I finally got my license. So I was like,

I just don't think I can do it again down here. I don't want to study. People are like, just study. I'm like, no. But I'm a California resident. So let's tell it. Let's bring it back real quick. So you're going to be performing in Nashville. Do you know where you're going to be performing at? You know what? I want to do the Deja Vu Club, but they're making me do Hustler because they just opened it, and I guess it's bigger. Okay, yeah, yeah. I don't know much about it. Yeah, I haven't... The clubs out there don't really tickle my pickle. I grew up in Vegas, so they're nothing like the clubs in Vegas. For me, for featuring, what I loved about it is because I actually...

like don't like guys touching me sorry guys but I like for the Holy Spirit the first time I featured there in 2010 and I remember them telling me like the guys can't touch you yeah I was like used to put my boobs in guys faces and all this and they're like oh there's zero contact in fact the guys have to at that point give the money to the bouncer and then to you and I'm like I'm gonna make

That is so weird. But then I was like, I could never work like that. Yeah, but then the first show, I made like five or six hundred tips and I was like, what? Because when they're not used to doing, because we go to a club where they're used to that and you don't do it. The West Coast. No money. So I was just like, yeah, but Seattle and Nashville, like you can't touch and they give you good money. I always call that leaving room for the Holy Spirit. So I like that now. Yeah. You're going to come, you're going to come out there in the future and we're going to definitely get together. It's my out of retirement party. Okay. So you were saying that you started

You don't know who I am. Maybe exactly. You know what? Why don't you tell everybody who you are? Mary, let's tell everybody who the Mary Carrie is. So in case people, I'm sure that unless they live under a fucking rock, it's funny. I can tell now with the guys who are only fans or if I can or anything,

if they don't always like, do you know who I am? If I don't, I'm like, you're under the age of like 30 or 28. Then, you know what I mean? Because I mean, I was only like 19, 20, 21, you know, when I first started doing stuff. And then, so I wasn't, you know, and then 23 and I actually can always tell by their age too. If they're like 28 to 34, I'm like, ah, you saw me on Cinemax in like 2005. Yeah. Because I'm like, cause I can always tell because they were not able to watch porn online. But, um, yeah, no, let's see. I started, uh,

I started stripping because I wanted, I was like, I was a ballet dancer growing up. That's so awesome. Yeah, ballet model. Okay, where were you born? I was born in Ohio. Oh, okay. So you're like, what city? Cleveland. But I moved here when I was seven. I moved to Florida when I was seven. Gotcha. And I was raised by my grandparents. So you're a Florida girl at heart. I consider myself a Florida girl, definitely. Totally. Because I feel like Florida girls, Florida, if you like grow up here, like breeds all

You know, kind of like a Vegas party lifestyle. I was going to say Vegas. Yeah, for sure. You're in Fort Lauderdale growing up. It's kind of very similar. And my mom is schizophrenic and she was adopted. So my grandparents had adopted her. Mm-hmm.

and raised her, gave her, they were amazing people. Right. And, but, you know, they didn't really want her to have a baby because she was a lot of work for them. Right. And then, but she met my dad who has severe cerebral palsy. Oh. You know, they had met like, I think at like a church retreat, you know? Yeah. And so then they had me and at three months old, you know, like they were not taking good care of me. I mean, I've done so much like work through like different rehabs I've gone to. Yeah. Apparently those three months of life is what caused me to need so much attention now later in life.

Is because And drinking No but you're not The only one Childhood trauma I'm working through Childhood trauma She's working through Childhood We're all working Through childhood trauma So don't think That you're more Fucked up than anybody else Like we're all Fucked up baby No I believe Every human is fucked up Yeah no but

Everyone is a different thing, you know? Kudos to you for even recognizing it and, you know, accepting the help that people gave you. I mean, it's hard for me to believe it, though, because when you go to rehab and they tell you your traumas and they would always tell me, no, it's those first three months of life when you're with your mom and dad who, you know, my mom goes, my mom, because she's handicapped. She's like, I thought you were going to be like a doll, but you were much harder. And they just like left me in the, like, yeah, I have no sense of smell because like I had high fever. No one took me to the doctor. I've lost a sense of smell. But I don't remember any of that.

Right. Do you still have no sense of smell? Never have had one my whole life. And I didn't even know until I was in sixth grade and I did like a silent fart. So I thought farts were all just noises. And then so I let out a silent one and everyone in the class was just like, like, oh, ever smelled it? Like someone farted. And I was like, in my mind, I'm like, how did I know?

It didn't make a noise. And then I asked my grandparents and it turned out and then doctors did some tests. So COVID would have never even fucked with you. I wouldn't have known. I wouldn't have known. That is crazy. So can you taste food? I mean, that's the thing. I love to eat. So I feel like I taste it the way I've only known. Right. I think it was why it was really easy to become a vegetarian also. Because I love all my, I was a vegetarian age 12.

Right. And so all the fake meat products to me, like a fake chicken nugget tastes like a chicken nugget. Yeah. Because it's like texture. I love vegan stuff. Like I'm vegetarian stuff. But I think having no sense of smell makes it easy. Yeah, totally. So let's go back to the three months old parents. Yeah. Let's go back to the three months old. Cause I'm kind of trying to paint a timeline here for everybody so that they can see how beautiful your story is. You know, see moved. So my grandparents, um, I moved in with them with my mom. Okay. We moved to Florida when I was seven and then they legally adopted me at eight.

And to me... Was mom still in the picture? She was always there with us. But to me, it was like having a sister. She never really like did any caregiving for me. My grandparents did everything. So my grandma was like my mom. And because after having my mom who was handicapped, all they wanted was normal. When I came along and I was all of a sudden this like...

straight A student. I was like student of the year for the whole like the city. I was president, vice president of student council. Not so dumb blonde, huh? I always went for vice president roles because I never won the full responsibility of president. Right. You won the title. Yes, exactly. It's all I ever cared about. I feel that 100%.

And then I was really good at dance and dance became my thing. And then in seven, so you did ballet. I did ballet. I competed in like jazz tap and ballet until, is it true that ballet like breeds, um, eating disorders? You know, I, yeah, she's like, I'm not going to be sure. Yeah. I mean, I remember being like, I didn't even get my period until I was 16 and

And, but because of that, like while the other girls got it young, because I was dancing six, seven hours a day. Right. I was so thin that by the time I finally got it, like I actually had like a seizure in school and fainted because my, my hormones were so messed up from it. But then when I got it all of a sudden. Were you throwing up or just not eating? Oh, I had no, I ate a lot. That was the crazy thing. Yeah. But your metabolism doesn't slow down until you get your period. Right. So I hadn't gotten it till I was 16. Right. Because my hormones were messed up from being so thin, but that was from,

I mean, I danced probably maybe six hours or seven hours a day. Right. It was like, you know, from three o'clock until like 10 o'clock at night, you know. Wow. Regular classes and solo rehearsals. And I was obsessed with it. It's all I ever wanted to do. Right. And so when I got my period... It was a passion. It was... Oh, yeah. It was... Well, you know, I realize now looking back, it was an addiction. Like, I get very addicted to anything I like. Okay. Addicted to people. It was an escape maybe also? You know, I think it was...

I think I just, well, it was something I was really good at. And I realized like I was always the star girl of it. And I liked, I loved being on stage. I liked being center of attention. I think, you know, and I had, I just was fun. But like I don't,

I don't know. I feel like because I was always rewarded early with it. Yeah. You know, I don't know. It just was like something I loved. It was just your thing. Yeah. But then I went through puberty late and I was like, all of a sudden I put on weight. And I remember my ballet teacher, you know, a couple months after my period, she was like, well, we measured you for your costume. I was like the main part. She's like off your role, you know, off your body a year ago. So you've got three months or you're not the main role. And, you know, that's very hard to tell a 17 year old.

Yeah, that's been in it her whole fucking life. Yeah. And I'd write down all my food for her and like bring it every day. And it wasn't a healthy diet, but I was keeping my calories low. I'd have a Diet Coke and a fat-free Pop-Tart every morning, a frozen yogurt for lunch. That's not healthy. You know, a piece of pita bread and cheese. So that definitely breeded an eating disorder. And that's what happens. So it definitely breeds that, but...

I couldn't imagine being a fucking ballet teacher telling a little girl that this is all she can eat. Like I understand telling a kid no fried food, no soda, stuff like that. But to, you know, micromanage it down to what you were eating. When I was 16, I was at the Cleveland Ballet School for a summer program. I used to audition and I'd have to go over. I had a scholarship because we couldn't afford for me to just go to where I always got in. And I went to Cleveland Ballet for a scholarship because I was full scholarship. I had to get weighed every week. Right. Scholarship girls would if you.

Gained weight They take your Scholarship away That's a freaking Like that's something That they really do They weigh you To keep your scholarship Like talk about And they told us Smoke cigarettes And eat lettuce Is what they told The lady who's like Running our like Pilates class She's like okay girls Like she was like I don't remember What kind of Spanish She was like Eat your lettuce And smoke your cigarettes How are these people Not getting cancelled Like that's crazy to me Well this was 1996 Oh

I probably wanted to do that back then. Very true. Because now I feel like that shit would not fly. I don't know. But you watch Dance Moms, which is current. True. Because I was obsessed with that show. All right. So let's go through. So you went dancing. I was dancing. My grandparents gave me everything. Then I remember by eighth grade, because I was this straight-A student, which is great when you're in elementary school and being the overachiever. But where I lived, my middle school, Margate Middle, was like...

it was no longer like cool to be a straight A student who has A's but still had to do extra credit wants to go to ballet and I remember being in seventh grade like oh my god like I'm gonna be a complete social outcast yeah and thank goodness they got me into you know I had to take all these like tests and because my dance um it's like $36,000 a year it's considered the number one private school in the United States right now actually um it's in Fort Lauderdale called Pinecrest

Okay. I've actually heard of it. And I got into there. Wow. And I did for dance and academics and I got together. I never knew any of this stuff about you. Yeah, it was amazing. It was so cool. It was so great. I remember like, you know, my middle school, I had been a victim of like my first day of school, like a kid stealing, you know, some older girl stealing my chips. Another, another day, like,

some kid punching kids, just randomly punching kids in the hallway and I got punched. Like, if you did not hold on to your stuff, it was stolen. So I go to this private school and I remember the first... Completely different world. Oh, yeah. I mean, I remember I was going to lunch and these girls just met me. I'm like, what do I do with my backpack? I'm like trying to bring it in the cafeteria. They're like, just leave it. I'm like, what do you mean? Just leave it? Yeah.

Yeah. And I used to always backpack line the hallways. And over the course of those five years, I mean, sometimes I leave my backpack and three hours later you go back and like nothing is stolen. Yeah. I did that too. I went to public school and then my parents stuck me in private school and it was like a whirlwind for me. And then I went from private school back to public school and it was just game over from there. Well, I can't imagine if I had to go back. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately though, it was a super sheltered life I had.

And then meanwhile, so all of that was so great. And like, you know, even though I knew I wasn't like, I know it was like the poorest kid at my school because my grandparents did everything and I was a dancer. I felt like I fit in really well. I fit in because it was a school of like nerds. Right. You know, so I got to be cool.

Yeah. I was a school of nerds, you know? And it was great, but then my grandfather died when I was 16, and that really... And my grandmother's Parkinson's got worse, and they were kind of just, you know, everything to me. Right. So all of a sudden at 16, I'm like taking care of my grandma. My grandfather's gone, which was my father figure. And my mom, like, I'm having to learn to take care of her a little too. Right. So that part, you know...

That was hard. Yeah. And then that's where I can notice, like, after all my therapy, the shift in it turned from, like, little ballerina girl to all of a sudden, like, I wanted to have boyfriends. I needed to have attention. Ballet wasn't my priority. Well, because your father figure was gone. Exactly. You needed that love from somewhere else. And I had a fear of, oh, my God, my grandma's going to die next. I have no family. Right. So quickly, then I started, I turned to drinking and partying and always having boyfriends and

ballet. Then you had full scholarships for college for ballet. So I went to FSU and a scholarship for dance, but my grandma, I didn't know any of this about you. I think that's, I didn't get to like fulfill it because I had to transfer back. But still it's the point that you were doing all this, you know, people, they look at like sex workers like us and they just assume like, Oh my God, she was abused as a child and fucking had a horrible life. And it's like when they, when you get to hear this side of your story, it's actually really empowering.

You know, that's funny because that's something Dr. Drew, like the first like week when I would meet with him, he's like, nope, you were molested. You were definitely sexually, you were as a child. And I was like, no, like, he's like, you're repressing. I'm like, no, Drew, if anything, I think I was like overly attentioned as a child, 100% overly attentioned because I'm so much, you know, that's the other thing. So much of the way we behave as adults

is how he behaved his children. And I literally treat like, I treat my husband and any guy I've been in a relationship with the same way I treated my, like, look at me, do this for me. And like, I'm bratty and I need attention. And if I'm not getting attention, it's really hard. Her husband's here, by the way. It's very hard. And I noticed even, yeah, like I have very unhealthy relationships with all, well, unhealthy just because I need like,

I need to be around them at all times. The constant affection. You know, I'm not going to, yeah. Well, that stems back to your grandfather, you know, passing away. So after that, when did you make the turn to start stripping? How did you even get into like the adult industry? Well, I remember the first time I ever saw porn or anything, I was 16 and my girlfriends was having a party at her house and they had like those channels and we had our boyfriends over and the guys were watching those girls and I was so mad.

I was like, so I turned into, oh my God, like now, you know, the way girls do. That's so gross. Why are you watching it? Ew. But I didn't think that. I thought like,

why aren't I the blonde with the big boobs I wanted them to be looking at me that's how I was when I first watched 42 but I pretended I was jealous and I pretended that for the next year and then but then secretly I was like god they're this is so cool I want to be the girl that the guys like and then I started then like I remember like I became obsessed with Pamela Anderson love Pam yeah I would knock out on Friday nights because I had to watch you know because it's not like we had DVR and I didn't know how to like yeah I had to watch VIP every Friday nights in college because I loved her outfits and the

Baywatch. Yeah. I never watched Baywatch. I should have watched it. I did. I wanted to watch her run around in that fucking piece. I was still in ballet world. It wasn't until like, you know, when I transferred, I had to transfer home and I went to FAU. I was taking care of my grandma and mom and I was going to ballet. Like I had a, I was a pre-professional with Ballet Florida at the time, which is now Ballet Palm Beach. But slowly it was just like, it was getting harder. It was like an hour drive from where I lived in Margie and it was,

You know, I had a boyfriend and I just was struggling with my weight. This is a lot to juggle at such a young age. And I was just like...

I remember I saw a sign for like the FAU dance team. And I was like, God, I always wanted to be like a high school cheerleader and do that. You know, like my high school didn't really have cheerleading, but you know, you see movies about it. Right. Like, you know, if I try out for that, that's God's way of saying to quit ballet. And so I did and they made the team. Wow. And so then I was like, and I loved it dancing at the games. It gave me my attention, but it was a lot less work. How many athletes did we bang? You know what? Well, I was always like a baseball player girl growing up. It wasn't until like when I was,

In my 20s It turned to like Basketball You know we didn't have A football team in LA But it's really What do they call the girls The baseball girls Like cleat chasers Or something like that I don't know what they I don't know what

Maybe they didn't even have a nickname. I don't even know if they had a nickname in the 90s. Yeah. And then when I was on the dance team, it was very hard to like, you know, I had different like work at a bagel shop, a hostess at a restaurant, but it was really hard to like go to school, go to practice. And plus you were never taught those coping, you know, those time management skills. No, they didn't. To this day, like they never, I never had a chore to do. I never had to, I still do not like,

I'm just really bad at like any like medial tasks. I'm pretty much if something's not fun I won't do it. It'll be messy. Right. You know I don't know how to do it but you know so I remember I was like I gotta get a job so I worked at Hooters for three months. Well first I was doing like this dance we were like spirit type but bought misfit type dancing but that paid a hundred bucks for like four or five hours which was great but then I worked at Hooters and then from there I remember like one time I entered a wet t-shirt contest at a bar and I won and I was like

I used to do all the wet t-shirt contests when I was younger. Yeah, I'm like, I got to get drunk underage. I got to dance on stage and make good money. And all, everybody wants you. Yeah. Because you're the winner. Exactly. So from there though, I still didn't go to strip club. I worked at, I saw an ad. It was like $200 for eight hours webcam modeling. Yes. And I was like, you lived in a house. We called it the girl's house. You didn't live there, but we were tended. Yeah. I was like,

wow. And I'm always older girls and they were like, you would make so much money stripping. And yeah. And I still thought this was great money. I was like, and I didn't tell the dance team and like,

you know, I had never even seen a vibrator before when I showed up there. They said, bring your toys. And I was like, I think my grandma threw them away. Yeah. Because I thought they literally meant like, you know, and then they had to like show me how to use it. But then I was like, then I entered a stripper amateur contest and won that. And then from there I was hooked. I was like, this is the greatest. It just took off from there. Yeah. And then I was like, who doesn't, for me especially, I was a party girl. I'm like, I get to get drunk. I get to dance. I was the opposite. I wanted to not,

not be off on stage because you knew the money was not on the stage right I didn't know and I remember not only that but like I didn't get the music selection and I remember for like the first three weeks I was like did you get oops I did it again for me yet and he's like not yet and then he surprised me with it and I would like dance like I was like oh my god I know the music video dance and I was like doing the dances and I remember watching the old I mean the older strippers were probably like

20s I get it they would all of a sudden be looking and they would be laughing at me they would be like what is this girl doing and I was like on stage every 30 minutes and you know and the first time I went to a champagne room the world is your oyster in that strip club I was just like for a champagne room I was like oh my god I get to drink champagne he's giving me 150 bucks

Yeah. And I sat and talked and like talked for 30 minutes. You talk? I could never imagine. I'm just kidding. But then after the first 30 minutes, he's like, okay, I'm going to buy another 30. Let me just go get a condom. And I was like, what are you going to get a condom for? We're just going to talk and drink champagne in the champagne room. And he's like, okay, let me be right back. No sex in the champagne room. Because I didn't know that happened. And so he told me he was going to go to the bathroom. I remember like 10 minutes went by. And finally, like a waitress came back. She's like, yeah, the guy left the club. He was not happy. Oh.

Oh no. You know, and I was like, what? He really, like, you know, I had no clue. Yeah. And so I went around stripping. I was only a regular stripper for like three months, house stripper, because I kept getting in trouble for underage drinking. So I kept switching clubs until finally I found a club that believed this like fake idea had. Yeah. But that club had features. Right. And I saw the features and I was so mad. I was like,

I want to be one of them. She gets a fancy costume. She gets to be on stage a really long time and makes a ton of money on that stage. And then her pictures everywhere. Yeah. So I was like that. That was the only reason I got into porn or anything. I was like, I want to be a feature entertainer. I want to be a showgirl. I want to be a showgirl. And so I called an agent up

because I was like they had you just picked one you didn't even know you know what there was like a local stripper magazine that came out and I collected them I kept them under my bed I hid them from my grandma so I would read the porn star articles and every they would always say to book this girl at your club and so I just called that number I was like I want and it turned out he was down here I met him at IHOP and he was like okay he was like what a place let's discuss your fucking porn career over some pancakes honestly like to be honest I think it was like somewhere off Oakland Park

Over here. That's crazy. And he was like, you know what? You're young. You're cute. He's like... You're blonde. They love blondes. He's like, let's come up with a name. And I was like, well, my stripper name is Victoria. My fake ID is Valderrama. I want to be Victoria Valderrama. He's like...

No. He's like, you don't look Hispanic. He's like, the name's too long. He's like, that's just not going to work. He's like... What is your real name? Mary. Mary Lynn Cook. Okay. Well, then I was starting to... I did research. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to be really famous. I don't want two first names. That'll be too hard. Yeah. So then I was like, I'm going to be Mary. And then he's like, okay. And then he's like, what celebrities do you like? I'm like...

Mary Spears, you know, Mary Aguilera. And then I said, well, people used to think, because, you know, in the 90s especially, like, Mariah Carey. And I'm like, okay, I'll be Mary Carey. I'm like, it's funny and silly and cutesy and goofy. And it goes together. It literally rolls off the tongue. You cannot forget that. The way you branded yourself, like, people can say your name one time and never forget it. That was genius. Well, it went with my personality. You know what I mean? Because, I mean, I feel like if you're someone who is more, like,

Well, really, like, I don't know. I'm just, I'm like a goofball. And so it doesn't work as like, it worked, you know? Yeah. And so take me to your first porn scene. Where are we? How old are we? I mean, I shot stuff down here, but I don't really count that. My first time I went to LA, I don't even know if I count my first LA one because it was like the guy.

The guy from IHOP set me up with someone in LA. Because he was the one who set me up with the Stern Show. He was like, come up with ideas. I love Howard. He was like, well, that was the best thing. Because he was like, can you come up with a gimmick for the Stern Show? He's like, I got a contact. And this was like three months after IHOP. Right. And I was like, well, my mom's handicapped. And I could set her up on a date with Gary the retard. And I was like, and he's like, that's genius. So I made this VHS tape of me in a bikini with my mom.

Yeah. And sent it to like the Howard Stern Show contact and they called me. And then from there it was just always going back to the Stern Show. So what was it like going on Howard Stern? How was that whole experience? You know the first time it was so funny because I was just so clueless about everything. I mean that was the best thing about me. Was he nice? Is that all a persona? He would get so the first time I went when you're like off air he like doesn't talk to you at all.

Second time I went Because he wants to save everything No It's like when I'm talking about When you're done He like does not acknowledge That you're there Oh But by the time Because I ended up going on Around 17 times Right Over like nine years Wow And so as the time would go on There's a lot more talking Like it honestly became Like his His like the The people like Will We would like Everyone would just come hang out With me in the green room Yeah I also like

Because I used to do a lot of He's a Capricorn So he's like me We like to warm up to people I think he just is really You know A lot of times They don't know that first time You show up You're going to be a girl That they're going to have back Right You know they wait and see And I think once they realize You know Yeah Because

I was just always You know I think they just Knew that I was gonna be out there You know Well you can't They had you on 17 times So obviously he dug What you were doing You know He was fun You were good for views Yeah So during When you went on The Howard Stern Show Were you doing porn At the time No The IHOP guy We sold me as Porn star Mary Carey We built up an old

His name was Charlie Fry. Okay, Charlie. He is no longer around because apparently he was very good to know. He's not, he's not dead. Oh, okay. He's not around because he fucked over girls so bad. Unfortunately, he was not to me, but I heard crazy stories that they would like, he would like books, books, features, like, like,

sometimes like tell the girl like rob the girl and then don't and then you only have to send the money to me and you know like crazy stuff that used to happen back in the 90s that's so sad because they're making money like why get greedy like the girls are the reason why you're making money I know like why do that all right so take me to your first porn set okay I'm gonna come to the first real one because I don't know if I count the

first one. Okay, when you say you don't want to count the first real one, were we doing like some backyard boogie shit or what was going on? No, I mean it was like, let's see, they didn't have hair and makeup. They rented a nice house in LA. So it was like amateur. But it was, they made it really nice movies. I mean, it was called Rain Video, Rain Productions.

Mitch Spinelli, I mean, his dad was one of the original pornographers. But it just wasn't the same as then. Well, then I worked a bunch for Playboy TV. And then I got very lucky from Playboy TV because they ended up booking me for stuff, making me a playmate at the year girl party. And then like from there, they put me on this show. And they're like, you know, and then they kind of made me a host of a show. So it was all happening. But the first porn, I would say my first real account is when I worked for Jill Kelly Productions. So it was my first like real story.

set. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, but I only did girl girl until I got a contract because I had read before I got into porn. If you want to build up name for your feature dancing, you got to build up a name.

you know. But that's smart. It started off as $100 a show and I went on Stern Show and I was getting like $200 a show. Then I did a little girl girl porn and I was getting $300 a show. Then I got my porn contract and I was getting $500 a show. Then I ran for governor and I was getting like $800 to $1,000 a show. So I was like, you know, I was just trying to build up the name to feature. Right. But you did it.

you did the work too. I mean, I was like probably researched it so much more than other girls, but yeah, I knew to do girl, girl only. So I did a girl, girl scene. Right. And I, I mean, I was just nervous. You know what? It's so funny. I mean, I'd made out with girls. I never like when I first, actually my, okay. So the first girl, girl scene for that company, I don't count. I don't even think that company, I don't even think that the movies are like on Pornhub because any of the company, like it was like on a VHS. I don't even, but all I know is that when I watched it, cause I'd never gone down on a girl. Right. So like,

I'm like this though. I'm like, like, it looks like, like I didn't know to move my tongue. So it's like literally like, you should have just fake chowed. She should have just fake chowed. I wasn't even sure what was what. Yeah. I'm just like, and the video wasn't sure what was what. My whole head is like a dog, like lapping water. You know, it was totally awkward.

Do they teach you how to eat pussy on set? No. They're just like, go for it. No, I like kind of like rented a bunch of VHSs and learned. I bought like when the boys are away, the girls will play volume seven and learn from that. And so I got much better. But I mean, I still don't think I ever really knew what I was doing. But to me, it was weird. It never fazed me like,

I don't know. It never fazed me being naked in front of people. Like, never when I... None of it. It just was like, okay. I feel the same way. I don't mind being naked on camera or naked around people. I'm just so free with my body. I'm just... Yeah. Yeah. And the girl, girl didn't really... I mean, to me, I was like, this is a movie role. I mean, I'm like, I'm on set. I'm getting my hair and makeup done. I'm meeting other porn stars that have blonde hair and big boobs and they're hot. Like, and I have a wardrobe person. Oh, my God. I'm like, food! Food!

Free food Like I'm the only girl That would be on set Like pigging out Because I was like Oh my god Nobody eats on porn sites No I didn't realize All the candy and stuff That was like for the crew But I mean obviously For the girls But I was like The only girl That you would just see Sitting there like eating Oh I was like I loved it This is the best Well because girls Don't want to like

bloated on camera. I know how it is because even trying to work with models now is just so hard. Nobody will eat or anything and I'm like, fuck that. I'm eating, dude. Don't fucking play with me. It never occurred to me. So, and to me, it was just like, it was just the most fun ever. I was like, this is like, I'm getting attention. But what's cool is you have literally lived out all of your entire dreams that you've ever wanted to do. My dream would have been to

while having my grandparents not died, I would have stayed in ballet would have been my thing. Yeah. And my ultimate dream when I was a little girl was to own my own ballet school. I mean, I started ninth and 10th grade on my word processor because we couldn't afford a computer making my flyers for my dance school. Like I had it all planned out. Right. So that would probably in like knowing now, like I would love to open a dance school, but I know that because of my past parents would,

You know what I mean? He's one. I just, well, I just talked about this with AJ Applegate. She was on the podcast before and she actually was a dancer too. And she's, she said the same thing. And I think that really fucking sucks for you guys. It's so not fair that because you guys chose to make money a certain way that, you know, or even me, I wouldn't be able to open up a kid's school either because we chose to, to work in a certain industry that we can't work around kids or, you know, be upstanding, upholding upstanding citizens.

or whatever it's called. It's true. And that really, you know, that scares me because I really, and that's the biggest thing right now is trying to have a baby. We're going to get to that. We're going to get to that. So after, I was always doing girl, girl, got my porn contract boy, girl. Yeah. With kick-ass pictures. I chose them. I remember I was debating between Vivid, Jill Kelly Productions and kick-ass. Back in the day, Vivid was the shit. Vivid was the shit. But I was looking around and I did my research. I'm like, okay, if I go with them,

you know, I get to be the name vivid, but it is vivid. It's not Mary Carey. Right. If I go with Jill Kelly, I loved it because our girls were so pretty and I had pretty posters. I'm like, these will be great for feature dancing. Yeah. But then I, my research was that Jen Jameson was the first wicked girl. And at the time, Tara Patrick was big and she was the first digital. Where is Tara? She kind of just lives in Italy now. Oh, wow. She's like, fuck America. Yeah.

had enough. Yeah, she lives in the middle of the way. And she's a mom. But she's still doing her OnlyFans and everything. Oh, dope. Yeah. I love her. We were good friends for a while. So I went with Kick-Ass because the owner of the company, he told me if you sign with me, which I signed with him in March of 03, he's like, I'll make you a household name within six months to a year. And I was like, well, you know, he wants to promote his brand. Because at that point he had been distributed through Hustler. So he just went on his own. I like the idea of being the only one and getting the attention. Right. Instead of having to

to be in a group and he did movies that cared more to my personality I mean because what we did is like each of my movies well what he did is to brand it he's like every movie we put you in we're gonna put the name Mary Carey in it right it's not gonna be like called like Busty Blondes it's Mary Carey this and so he made Mary Carey Rules and what we did is we made it like five scenes where it was like a sketch comedy and I got to like

like at that time I was obsessed with Eminem you know so I was like white rapper Skittle and you know and it was like little Saturday Night Live skits and I got to improv it and so we did that and then I did um like one two three four boy girl scenes so over three movies and then he called me up one day and I was like do you want to run for governor and I was like I mean I dropped out of college my last year and I was a theater major yeah um I don't

I don't know, can I? And he's like, well, you're over 18, no felonies, right? I was like, yeah, no felonies. He's like, okay. He's like, we just got to get your signatures and I'll pay your fee and you can do it. So how old were you when you first ran for governor for California, right? I just turned 23 when it happened. We only had a week's notice before the deadline. So it was really at first. And so originally he just kind of was hoping we would get some like ABN, you know, adult news press. And so he scheduled for me to be in front of the LA courthouse in bikinis.

and like holding signs and stuff. And then the next thing you knew, like the Howard Stern show came out. Everyone came out. All the news channels. And he's like, okay, Mary, like we're doing this for real. You've got to go to the courthouse tomorrow and get that paperwork. Don't fuck this up. Yeah. So I went to the courthouse, got my paperwork, and then I started like meeting some of the press. And that was the key. I've always been friends with like one type of press. And then that's the way to like find things out. So one of the press people was like, did you know that tomorrow Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to be here at 2 to turn his paperwork in? And I was like, interesting. So I got there and waited in my car.

my car and as arnold was leaving i came walking up in my bikini i was like i'm here to collect signatures just to cap get off his press of course and then like i got my signatures it was really hard though because they had to be registered as most people are registered when they say signatures is that so you have to get this signature like in person so like because like so many people over the years i'm like you don't get how hard this is to do recall you need less no i believe but the regular election because they can't you can't come online if you get a signature like

you know, for me, they have to be registered, declined to state, independent. Right. So I had to re-register everyone to vote because I didn't trust them. If they told me they were, oh, I'm independent, I'm like, no, you're re-registering to vote. Right. You know, and then they have to sign it. It has to be legible. They have to not have a felony. They actually have to live in the county to turn the paperwork in. Like, I had collected some... So you have to get, like, how many signatures? Well, this time you only need 65. That's why the recall. But, you know, again, I turned in 400 and only, like, 80 were valid. Wow. Because...

they have to be legible. They have to not have felonies. They have to be registered to your political party. God, that many people have freaking felonies? Well, you know, and not only that, like I don't, yeah, I think that's, well, you know, I went around to like, originally my idea to get signatures. I'm like, oh, go get all the dancers at the local strip clubs and a lot of them had felonies and they couldn't sign it. So if you, okay, so when you run for governor, what is your expectation? Are you doing it for fun? Well, the first time it was totally like, honestly, at that point I was like, I want to up my feature dance range.

This is all fucking circles back to that Easter dancer shit. I mean, I was like, how am I gonna, I am sick of traveling with this damn baby pool, okay? I wanna just, I don't wanna do lotion shows. I just wanna get up there and dance and get a lot of money. So. I love it. No, and I'm, well, you know, I love being on camera too.

Yeah. Yeah.

you know, my first Fox interview was on the Heartland. John, I still say his name wrong, Keisha, Kysick or whatever. But, you know, the owner of Kit Kat gives me this like list of things. He's like, this is like, we have a deficit of this much. All these facts. And I just like memorized them. So I'd mix in my facts with like my silliness and then it just worked from there. And then,

You know, it was only like it was six weeks because recall the there's not much time for campaigning. Right. Six weeks. It just was like every day a different show. We did different, you know, publicity stunts. And then I did the game show. Who wants to be governor of California? And I won that. So that was like twenty one thousand two. That was fun. Yeah. I was based on votes. And and then I got to feature dance for a lot of money. So I was so happy. Yay!

And then I started getting hunted down. Like Eminem was the first celebrity to contact me. And he was like my number one crush. And I was married at the time. And my husband and I. I made out with Eminem. Oh my God. He's my favorite. Well now, you know what? Once I met him in person, I was so disappointed because he was short. I've never told anybody that on camera. Yeah.

For me, it was just such a, because I'm five foot nine. Yeah. And I knew it was going to be short. And so I remember like I had these big furry like boots or kind of like ugly, but like with a short skirt. I'm like, okay, I'm going to make sure I'm like as short as I can be. It was still shorter than me. And I remember when I talked to him the first time, like, why do you even like me? He's like, because you look like Mariah and Kim combined.

And I was like, well, I mean, I like the Mariah part, but the Kimper, I'm not so happy about. You do look like his baby mama, actually. I don't know. She looked better once she got some money. Yeah. I don't want to, I mean, we all do. I look like her after Eminem had money, not like, not eight mile Kim. Kim, no offense, we're not talking shit. You've already been drugged through the ringer. We're not talking shit. No. We all look

Better when we have money So how many times Have you ran for governor Only that one time Okay so this will be Your second time Yeah so this time Are you doing this now As publicity stuff Or are you doing this Because you really Want to do it Okay obviously I want You know it's so fun To be able to put Your opinions out there Absolutely Are you a political person Um

Because I'm not. I find... I think politics are a shame. You know, I mean, I think the politics now is bad. I mean, I think it's ridiculous because nobody... I mean, I always consider myself when I would tell the news because then I went to some President Bush dinners as like a big joke. You know, the owner of the porn company, he was like, okay, we're going to say we're Republicans. And like two years later after I'm for governor, he paid...

to go to the Bush dinner, even though we're not Republicans, it was like 2,500 a person and they didn't realize when they invited him. Yeah. And he said, submitted my paperwork as Mary Ellen Cook and he waited till they accepted us and then like three days before sent out a press release like porn star Mary Carey going to Republican dinner. And so then I started saying yes. And I remember I was on the Daily Show. They're like, how long have you been Republican? I was like, approximately three days. And like,

But I was like, I'm so, I really am. I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Yeah. I think I'm like anarchist. I'm like, screw the government. Do not care. The government politics today is it should be done. No one is crazy. You know, and I don't,

Everybody's got a fucking opinion because of the internet. It's like, dude, it's just crazy. I'm really excited for you though. How do you feel about running up against Caitlyn Jenner? How do you think she's going to do?

I think she'll do well. I mean, I'm hoping I do much better. Have you ever met Caitlyn? I haven't. I've met some of the Kardashians, but they were never nice to me. They actually like, were like this. Well, this was the, okay. Their sister's a fucking porn star. That's why they're all famous. You would think that they would be nice. 2009, I was at Joe Francis's house and I remember like, Rob Kardashian. They're always at his house. They were always at his house and Rob Kardashian was talking to me and Kourtney was like, don't talk to her. She's a porn star. Get away from her. You know, but it was a long, you know, people change a lot and the people, it's a

Opinions of porn But their whole Their whole thing Was based off Kim Making a sex tape I know I mean she was like Because I had my radio show At Vivid And I love Kim I think Kim is a boss ass bitch But she was always at Vivid Like doing her negotiations With them And the first tape They sent in They had to reshoot it Because they went More professionally Because the lighting Was not good You know And

And so the, the tape that Kim dropped wasn't the original one. Hey, little bombs are getting dropped. I love that. I was told that. Yeah. Um, and then also because the girl, let's see, Jamie Foxworth, who's,

She was from Family Matters. She was my roommate on Celebrity Rehab and we were like kind of best friends and she had dated Ray J right before Kim and she was actually telling me that before I heard it at Vivid. Yeah. She was like, oh yeah, they planned it. Like she was like, this is all planned. This is, you know, because it helps Ray J too. Well, I'm sure. Listen, the devil works hard but Kris Jenner works harder. So, what was it like doing Celebrity Rehab? Dr. Drew is a fucking stud. It saved my life. I would probably suck him off. I thought, I mean, when I showed up there, I did flirt with them, I think.

I don't remember because I knew I was going in there. I mean, number one, I was always in a blackout. So you just said it saved your life. It saved my life because so in 2000 and so I moved to LA. My grandma had died in 2003. My mom though. So I never fully knew what was wrong with my mom. I go, yeah, she's schizophrenic. She's mentally handicapped. I never knew. My grandparents never explained it to me. Yeah, nobody talked about mental health when we were young. That's what I'm trying to teach our daughter now is like, it's okay to talk about mental health. If you're not feeling good today, that's okay. Say that. Like we want you to talk about your mental health. I talk about it.

I'm always, I, cause I forget that it's not normal to talk. Like I'll be like openly to anyone like, Oh yeah, my psychiatrist told me to do this, you know? But like, but that's just real. And that's how it is. Exactly. I didn't know. No one told me about my mom. I mean, I knew she had been through electric shock therapy. I knew all that stuff, but I didn't, I didn't know. Did anything ever help her or no? Um, her medication is one pill. It's so crazy. But Zyprexa it's called. And in 2006, you know, I was living in LA and I was in a really bad period. I'd just broken up with this guy, um,

that like I ended up like oh my god I found out like he was traveling with me feature dancing I was like wondering why my tips had gone down oh my god I really thought I made like five or six hundred because he was collecting my money pocketing it so my final straw was like I and he had been physically abusive to me like once a I was like once a month if he got drunk I knew and he would be like how'd it happen how'd you get that I was like

I know you did it but like I was so fucked up on Xanax and alcohol that I could never fully remember and then my final straw was sicko yeah it was bad and then oh he put me a bad I'm still working on the bad loan for my condo I didn't even know how bad it was till finally like we can go this loan I'm in but um he my final straw was feature dancing and I couldn't find him he kept disappearing and then like afterwards he's like let's go to this customer's room he says he's got a bunch of blow and girls are going I'm like are you kidding I'm

not gonna hang out with the customer afterwards yeah so I ended up there and I couldn't find him he's off doing drugs so I found one of the strippers that was like look I will give you like a hundred bucks drive in my hotel she's like okay or maybe 50 and we get there and I start going through stuff and I find like a couple thousand cash because I just done back-to-back bookings and I didn't know where he was so then I go to her look I will give you like five hundred dollars we were in Long Island but my flight was out of JFK the next time like yeah I will like you know I will fly you to LA with me even I just need you to drive me because of course I couldn't be alone I'm like I'm gonna buy you first class tickets to LA and

Oh my God, this is some Oprah shit. She was like, when she got on the plane with me, I remember, well, that's the thing. I was drunk too. And I remember I like called my friend. I'm like, I told him, I'm breaking up with Harold. I need you to come get me. I got this girl. What are you going to do with this girl? Harold. His name was Harold. Harold. I love that. So let's get back to the doctor.