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Kay Jenkins: Trauma and Hard Work

2021/8/11
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Kay discusses her upbringing in a trailer park in Salt Lake City, Utah, and how her family dynamics influenced her early behavior and need for attention.

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All right, gentlemen coming to main stage next this is bunny get up there she's got a tornado of titties coming your way get those dollar bills ready She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J Fox. So get up there and throw throw throw them dollars Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today. I

I have had my eye on this girl for a while. I was first intrigued by her honesty of her past, and she has just like the most beautiful story that we will definitely get into. Kay Jenkins, how are you, baby? I'm so good. I'm adapting to my new environment. Dude, we're here in Miami. We are here in Miami. It's fucking, I literally walked outside this morning, and it feels like I'm in a fucking blow dryer. It's wet.

It's moist. It's very moist. Everybody loves that word. Okay, so you have such a massive story. Let's go ahead and start from the beginning. So you are actually from Utah, correct? Mm-hmm. Okay. No, I'm not Mormon. That was my next question. That's always the first thing I get asked. And also people are just surprised because I don't think a lot of authenticity comes from that state. At all. Which is exactly why I had to remove myself from that environment. Yeah.

Were you born there? I'm born and raised. What part? Salt Lake City. Okay, Salt Lake. Gotcha. So I just grew up in a trailer park in the middle of Salt Lake City, Utah with my mom and my brother. I love that. I grew up in a trailer too. Yeah. I mean, hey, come out in the mud. And here we are. Here we are. So, I mean, what do you want to know? So you grew up in a trailer park and...

You posted a couple of mug shots and stuff like that. So as a child, would you say that you were like a troubled teen out there? Yeah, absolutely. My brother was the favorited child. So I was constantly craving.

craving attention from my mom. Um, and my dad was completely absent. So I was kind of invisible. So I was constantly trying to lash out so that I could be noticed. Right. And so I think now even being who I am today, my, the one thing I'm constantly seeking is validation. Right. It's really fucked up, but at least I'm aware of it. I've been

I think we all are. I think all of us on fucking Instagram that have like huge followings and shit, we've invested in ourselves and our narcissism a little bit, you know? Exactly. So when you were getting in trouble, when did you start getting in trouble? How about that? I got my first alcohol ticket when I was 13 years old. Alcohol ticket. What exactly is an alcohol ticket? So...

They have them at Candy in Utah. So it's like an underage drinking ticket. Okay, gotcha. So I'm 13, and I'm drinking a bottle of Everclear at a party playing beer pong. Those were the days. Days, right? Yeah. And so after that, over the course of the next five years, from 13 to 17, I actually accumulated 12 underage drinking tickets.

Wow. And so that's when... You were on a mission. Yeah, I was. And honestly, no one even wanted to party with me after that. They're like, Jenkins is here. The cops are coming. Yeah. I didn't get invited anywhere anymore because everyone knew we were getting caught if you were with me. So I think the universe just really had a larger plan for me. And I had to learn that lesson over and over again in order to really...

They say the lesson keeps happening until you learn, you know, the lesson. The problem keeps happening until you learn the lesson. When did alcohol turn into drugs for you? Um,

Probably mid 15 to 16. I was going to raves and sneaking in half naked, going around asking guys if they had pills. Like what the fuck? No, I was a wild kid too. I would have beat the fuck out of myself. Like no, if my daughter ever behaves that way, she's going to boot camp. Yeah, no, trust me. I have a 13 year old right now and she wants to grow up so bad. And I'm just like, bro.

Please. I'm like, calm down. You have plenty of time for that. So going to raves and stuff. So what was your drug of choice? Ecstasy? Honestly, anything I could get my hands on. I dabbled in a lot of, I've done, I mean, I did cocaine. I did a lot of ecstasy. I even tried meth and heroin once just because of the guys I was hanging out with. It never stuck. I always knew that that wasn't something I wanted to do after reflecting. How did heroin make you feel? Because they say that the first time you do it, you're either hooked or you're not.

Exactly. And I was sick. And the reason why I did it was because my brother was actually addicted a couple weeks before his accident. And he was using copious amounts of it. And I just saw, again, him getting so much attention from my mom. Right. My teenage mind justified, well, if I have a drug problem, maybe she'll pay attention to me. Right. And so that's where I...

I thought about that. Was dad in the house at all or was you raised by a single mom? No, he... After my dad's second wife left him, he took us as kids like on the weekends and stuff. But after his second wife left him, which I cheers her for that because he is...

the most arrogant man you'll ever meet in your life. He dipped out. He was gone. You know, became a womanizer and just he only ever wanted to see Kyler and I when it was showing us off to his new girlfriend. We were trophies and making him look good. Yeah. You know, but we always made him look bad because we're like, we haven't seen

him in how long and you guys were honest yeah exactly dad nice to see you again and you wonder why he's single in the next week you know it was always our fault no that's how my dad is my dad is a complete womanizer dude like it's insane um okay so you said before your brother's accident that's another thing i wanted to get to that's like a monumental yes thing in your life right now so he's your older brother yes you guys are he's had a drug a

problem you guys are partying together he was the favorite child what happened well so I'll I'll rewind just a bit um so after my 12th drinking ticket I actually got taken away from my mom and put into state's custody um because they just looked at her as unfit which you know was relevant um because I had no um structure at home I had no punishment at all right and I could do whatever I wanted and so um

when I got taken away from my mom, I was in state custody for a year and a half. Oh, wow. So I lived in solitary confinement. I was in group home to group home. I was in, um, multiple different, um,

detention centers. Um, and then, um, treatment pro then the eventually evolved me into a treatment program. It's gotta be traumatic. How old were you? I was 17 when they finally took me. I didn't get out until I was almost 19. So they didn't let you out when you were 18. They can keep you till you're 21. Wow. I didn't know that. Well, in the state of Utah, it might be different in other states. Yeah. In Vegas, I think it's 18, right? Yeah. They'll just say goodbye. And typically it would be right. Um, they try, but I think with my case, um,

They did see potential in me. And at first I fought it so fucking hard. I was like, I'm going to sit here and do what I want. And I'm not going to take any of the things. I didn't go through therapy, nothing. I called bullshit on my therapist. I was not,

But eventually, once I was cut off from society for so long, I knew that if I couldn't beat the system, I had to be the system. Right. And so eventually I did start... You can't beat them. You got to join them. Exactly. And so I eventually just started to work the program. And as stubborn as I hated it, it did help me. Yeah. It did help me a lot. And it gave me a lot of clarity. And that's when...

As soon as I started to work on getting out my home visits, of course, I had smoked some weed and got in trouble and got set back levels. But I think they invested so much time in keeping me there because they saw the potential that I had. They saw that I was smarter. And you're headstrong and you're tenacious. Exactly. Compared to a lot of the other girls in there, I was actually really blessed. They were on the streets at 14, heroin, pregnant, you know, gangs, things like that. So I was like, yo, I was just playing beer pong at a party. I'm just here to party. I just got here.

That was literally why I got locked up. And so I was actually, you know, the pussy white girl because I wasn't, I wasn't repping a gang or anything like that. And so eventually when I got released, um,

They actually knew my therapist and them they they have to evaluate your home life before they send you home of grace And that's when my mom's drug use had actually evolved. So did mom use the entire time? Functioning addict I would say so she liked her opiates Okay, that's why Kyler got addicted to heroin was because as soon as he started stealing her pills She locked them up and where do you turn?

which is the streets. And you get the cheap stuff, which is heroin. And things got really bad after his accident. That's when I did start just going off the rails. So what happened with his accident? And then we'll get into stuff like that. So about his accident happened a couple months before I got taken. And so we were out at a party. It was actually my party that I took him to with a bunch of friends. And Kyler just got his first car.

He felt high on life. Keep in mind, Kyler was everyone's dream guy. Like I had girls only want to be friends with me in high school because I was Kyler's little sister. I barely had a name for a really long time. And I was cool with it, though. I loved my big brother. I was like, I'm Kyler's little sister. Do you know who I am? You can't fuck with me. You know what I mean? I can feel the love for your brother through all of your posts. Yeah. Like it evokes emotion in me whenever I see that. I'm like that. She holds a special place in her heart.

which is why I want you to tell the story of what's going on so people can feel that. Yeah, of course. Yeah, Kyler and I were riders. As I mentioned, I didn't give him enough credit. So although my mom was extremely neglecting and abusive towards me, the only attention I did get from my mom was when she was hitting me because that was the discipline I got. So you did grow up in an abusive home. Very much so. But no one would have ever known because we looked so functional.

Right. You know, and because Kyler was so popular. Right. He was quarterback of the football team, point guard of the basketball team. I mean, he was everyone's star. Yeah. And so...

and that's the thing is he was an extremist. So once he got kicked out of school for smoking weed, he got kicked out of the football team and everything. He was like, fuck it. I'm going to go for it. He's a Pisces. So he's, uh, March 5th is his, my mom's is the 16th. So both of them are Pisces. I grew up with two Pisces. And her birth for everybody who wants to know her birthday, your birthday is one day after mine.

Yeah, the 23rd. Yeah, and I'm the 22nd. And I was a rebel child. I was born a rebel without a cause. But what we don't realize is our sign is born under karma and rebellion. So anything that we rebel against is our karma. It's crazy. So that's going to follow you for the rest of your life. She's like, fuck my life. Oh, no.

So if I have kids, I'm basically fucked. Yeah, pretty much. Okay. So you guys, he had his first car. Yeah. He had, and you know, after getting kicked out of school, he was, he's an extremist. So when he did something, he went for it. So when he started using drugs, he really fucking went for it. But he did get a job and he got a car and we were going out to celebrate that he got a car. We actually did have a DD that night.

The designated driver. Yeah. My stepbrother, which my mom's husband at the time, his son, and him and Kyler were actually very close in age. And so we all went out. It was kind of like a family with me and a couple of my girlfriends as well. And...

I remember the party specifically because there was, it was a big jungle juice party and everyone was drinking jungle juice. So to this day, I have not drinking it ever again. Oh my gosh. Um, we, we left probably around 2 AM. Everyone was drunk except for Ben, my stepbrother, who's the designated driver. And, um, Kyler got angry for whatever reason. I think he was trying to make out with both my friends in the backseat and,

They were like, no, you got to pick one. And he was like, no. And so I remember him getting extremely aggressive. Like just give me my fucking keys. Things got kind of blurry, but we were at a gas station getting gas and there was cops, a couple of pumps down. And so all my friends, like my girlfriends were like, we're going to go, like, we're not trying to get alcohol tickets because we've been there. And, um,

Ben eventually was like, you know what? Fuck it, dude. Here, take the keys. And I remember that very bluntly because that was the last time I really saw my brother as him. Normal. Yeah. That's a word we're allowed to use. So I refused to leave Kyler, though. Like I said, we were so close that I just refused. Everyone was leaving, and I'm like, I'm going with you. And so I remember him peeling out of the gas station, and

And I was in the back seat, and I started flying around, and I'm calling my mom to say, you've got to come get us because Kyler's driving drunk, and something bad's going to happen. I know. Oh, I want to hug you. It's okay. Sorry, I don't get to tell this story a lot. No, no, this is therapy for you. I just knew something really bad was going to happen that night. And, you know, when we...

Hit a yield sign, swerved through the intersection and the car wrapped completely around a metal pole. But because I was in the backseat, I wasn't affected. And he had whiplash so bad that he ripped his brain stem. Oh, my God. And no two brain injuries are the same. Right. So they couldn't tell us, you know, if this happens, he'll be better. Or, you know, we do this, he's going to get better. Yeah. So Kyler is actually in a coma for six months. Oh, my God. And he was on life support for three.

And we didn't really know what his, like if he was going to wake up or, you know, when you see in the movies, people wake up from comas and they're like, ah, everything's fine. But with a brain injury, he couldn't communicate. I can't imagine how he felt. He was trapped in his own body. He couldn't communicate. But I do remember the day before I actually got arrested,

and put into state's custody. God, they took you away from him after that happened. It was necessary, though. How angry were you, though? I would have been fucking just... I was mad, but I was really unhealthy because I'd go to the hospital and spend my day with him, and then I'd go out and get drunk to forget about it. And it wasn't healthy. I was spiraling in a very... I was going to end up like him. And so when I got my last ticket, the judge we actually had was Kyler's judge.

And looked at me and said, I could have blocked your brother. Kyler had a court date two weeks before his accident. And they could have blocked him up. And she said, I'm not going to let the same thing happen to you that happened to your brother. Oh, my God. So, and that's when things got really bad with my mom. She started heavily using meth. Mm.

um, to stay awake and make sure that she was taking care of him. Um, it was her way of coping. Yeah, exactly. Which, you know, I don't blame her at that point. Um, but after so long when Kyler did wake up, like that's all I needed was family, you know? Um, and eventually, you know, the, the doctors did say he would never walk and talk again. He was going to be a vegetable the rest of his life, or he wouldn't wake up from his coma. And so, um,

He surpassed all those expectations. Honestly, when I really decided I needed to get my life together after graduating my program, I knew that college wasn't an option for me and I really wanted to have time and financial freedom to be able to care for Kyler because at that point my mom was completely out of the picture.

Actually, I should back up. When I got out, I came home to my mom on meth. Okay. And my brother was starving in a basement. Oh, my God. He was 80 pounds underweight. And he had a doorbell that he would ring to get my mom to come downstairs to take care of him. He couldn't communicate.

And I was only there for 48 hours before I, my mom one morning, she wasn't answering the doorbell, you know, when I'd go down and check on him, but she did a lot of the maneuvering with taking, like changing him and stuff.

And she wouldn't answer her phone or her door. So I literally went upstairs and had to kick down her door. I put on my like snow boots and kicked down the door. How old are you at this time? I was just past 18. This was like literally the week I got released from rehab. Yeah. You're like fucking welcome home. Yeah. And I...

I kicked down the door, which by the way, going in my mom's room growing up, it was kind of like when things were good, that was the spot me and Kyler would go crawl into bed with her and chill and watch movies. So this new house, I hadn't even lived there because they had moved while I was in custody. Right. So I hadn't really like been in my mom's room. Right. Which is very weird because, you know, I was, it was an open home with family pictures. I got to the house. There's no family pictures. There's no food in the fridge. Like things were just weird. The energy was really off.

So when I kicked down the door, I actually woke her up. She had a cigarette with an ash this long on her chest and three lines of meth just on her bed stand. I was...

I didn't really know what to do, but I just looked at her and said, you're done. This has got to stop. I didn't just get out of rehab so I could come home to this. And my brother's downstairs starving to death. So I immediately called my grandparents, which are her parents. They're my heart and soul. I love Graham Cracker. And my grandpa, they actually live on a farm. Were they always your stability people?

Always. They didn't know half of what was going on. They tried to take me and Kyler multiple times. And we, my, we didn't want to though, because we, you know, we had the freedom. Right. When you're a kid, you have, yeah, when you're a kid, you have, you want to go where the coolest situation is. And when we, we knew if we lived with grandma and grandpa, we were going to have strict rules.

because my mom always had that growing up. They were very strict with her, you know? And so when they came in, they actually lived three hours outside of Salt Lake City. They have a farm. It's our family farm. And they got there within literally two hours. They drove so fast. They came in. We called the ambulance. We called the cops. We got Kyler removed out of the situation immediately. The next day or the next week, they had actually been evicted from the property. They weren't paying rent.

Your mom. Yeah, my mom and my stepfather, her husband. He sounds like a real winner, too, to let his wife like that. He was out of town working. They were using together. Honestly, that's when things got really bad with my mom was when she married her third husband. Okay. Because when I was a kid...

Her second husband robbed a bank with me in the car. Nice. And then she ended up marrying his husband. Where did all your mom's trauma come from? Your mom obviously had something happen to her. I think she wanted to rebel. So she liked the bad boys because grandma and grandpa didn't let her have that freedom growing up. So after Darren got arrested with me in the car, by the way, there's still a report on Google. You can go...

Read it. I was a 10-year-old girl who her stepdad picked me up from school, went to the bank, and then he slid the note to the bank teller on the back of our car registration. Oh, nice. So I had his name. What an idiot. Well, he was coked out. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. So when he went away, guess who mom married?

His brother. His best friend. Oh, even better, right? So it's been a whole journey. And then when grandma and grandpa got there and got Kyler out of that situation, that was really the determining factor where I was. So because they invited me to go to Vernal, which is a very small town. They live on 80 acres and there's nothing out there. Right. But I'd have a stable place to live and be safe. But that was really when I decided that I,

I knew I was meant for something great. Yeah. Like the universe. All this heartache. Yeah. The universe saved me that night for a reason. And it also put me through that program to learn the life skills that I needed that I wasn't learning out like at home. Right. To how to be a woman, like how to, you know, balance my checkbook and how to be, you know, like a, like a sophisticated adult. And so that's like, I literally had like four,

$700 saved up. I went and registered myself in real estate school. I finished that within three months. I started working at a brokerage as a transaction coordinator and executive assistant. And I went for it. I knew that real estate was what I wanted to do. And I immediately started paying for physical speech and occupational therapy so that Kyler could have the best care possible. And after that, I mean, he's now fluent in sign language. Yeah.

um he's completely coherent he's still definitely him inside um he'll never be the same he can make noise right but he can't fully formulate words gotcha and that's just because when you the brain it has to rewire itself and so um after so long though insurance cut him off because he wasn't progressing at the rate that

they wanted. Insurance is such a fucking scam, dude. That's a whole nother fucking subject. But yeah, they, um, he didn't, he didn't get his best shot. That's for sure. And so that's when I knew like I needed to step up because my grandparents weren't going to have the means to do it. What a lot to take on. Yeah.

You know, at such a young age, that's got to be heavy to have to know that you're not only are you responsible for your sobriety, for your growth, for yourself, but you also have to worry about Kyler, too, you know, and have to worry about.

how he's living and what's going on with him. So, well, I'm not, I think that's the thing is all that pressure. I didn't even think about like relapsing. I, you know, you couldn't like in your mind, you're like, it's not an option. I looked at the quality of my life from where I was at, um,

you know, previously to where I was at then and how I felt about myself. Right. Just the confidence and really wanting to sell real estate. I think real estate saved my life. It's like your passion. It really did. I, my, if people ask me my idols, it's literally like Paul Benson. He's the number one agent in Utah. Yeah. I like, we talk real estate and I'm like, I get off on that. Yeah. I get so excited. But then that's, you know, when I started,

Being a top producer, I got, you know, I was the youngest producing agent in the entire West Coast division of my company. And everyone doubted me because I was sexy and because I was different. Don't you hate that? And because I was different, especially in Utah, though, the culture. You know, I'm walking in in a short little skirt and I'm ready to close a deal. And these guys are like, whoa, I'm really uncomfortable right now. You know? Fun fact, I did real estate, too, when I was around your age. And I ended up having to sue the company for sexual harassment because my boss would not leave me alone. Oh.

Yeah, no, it's a very cutthroat industry that you're in and people and very male dominated, very ego round. But I feel like the women now are coming in and just like, we're kind of hot. Yeah, we are. And I'm doing my research out here because I'm going to start joining a luxury brokerage. And some of the, like literally three of the top producers out here are females. Yeah. It's because they're sharks. You know what I mean? And they're, I think we have the ability to,

women in general to appeal to both women and men. And men, yep. The thing with men is they can come off very harsh, so it's not appealing to both sexes. No. Right? And so I've honestly...

I've really loved my journey in real estate because it's also allowed me to explore my other passions in life, you know, and get the work done that I've had on my body. So I have my ideology of how I look now. Well, let's rewind real quick. Okay. So after you started doing really good in the real estate world, did you have work done while you were in Utah? Yeah.

Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. So you started getting work done on your body and stuff like that. And then did you, were you doing the IG thing while you were living in Utah? Yeah. Okay. So let's talk. I just wasn't really on the map, but yeah. Right. Let's talk about that. So when, so you first started getting your body done, your, her body's beautiful by the way. Um, she's the only other girl that I've seen who, who's kind of built like me, like with the hips and everything that's on. Yeah. That's on, uh, on, on IG. Um,

So you started like modeling while you were doing real estate? Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about that. Well, I... So actually, I started getting my body done. Well, I... Okay. I backed a sugar daddy. Yes. So that helps. We love sugar daddies. Because I had spent... I had put thousands and thousands of dollars into Kyler's care, which I would do it 10 times over again. Absolutely. But I didn't leave a lot for myself. And I... It was so weird. The universe like put this man in my path. Mm-hmm.

I'm more so as like an investor. He wanted to see me succeed. He helped me build my real estate website. Just to pause real quick. A lot of people don't realize that the sugar baby sugar daddy relationship isn't just about sex. Like a lot of the times, especially men that have a lot of money, they want to make you a better human. Yeah.

and help you with your goals. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't be the business woman that I am today without that. You're almost like a project to them, you know? Exactly. And, um, he invested a lot into helping me succeed and I damn well earned it though, you know? Um, and I was still producing. So everything that I got from him, I, I implemented it into my own business and into, um, everything that I had, I bought a beautiful home, my dream car, my dream body. Yeah.

And made sure my family was very, very, very well taken care of at that point. That was God blessing you for all of your... It came back. It lifted this weight off my shoulders where I could breathe. Because for literally five years, I couldn't breathe. No one offered to help. I had a serious relationship.

his family loved me and they did take me in and help me but him as an individual never was like hey let me lighten the load a little bit what can I do to help when he was very well off you know so so you just see the difference in men and I also yeah that's why I married my husband because he's the first man that I ever met that was like yo let's do this together I you know I'm gonna lift you up while you lift me up yeah exactly I never had that date dudes in Vegas oh god it was

Fucking slumming it. It was crazy. I can only imagine. And I was... I loved my arrangement because it helped me realize what kind of man I actually wanted in my real relationship, right? Someone who was dominant and caring and... Nurturing. And also like...

let me have my standards for myself. Yes. It's very much so hired like my standards and expectations for what I want for myself and for the person I give my time and energy to. Absolutely. And so, okay, we, he invested in me. I got, I spent all of 2020, by the way, everyone was, you know, upset about the pandemic. I was getting a body.

Listen, we fucking, we blew up in the quarantine. I love it. I'm always like... If you weren't hustling during that time... You were not doing what you were supposed to do. Yeah. If you didn't make a lot of fucking money or make huge growths personally, physically, emotionally during 2020...

you were sleeping. Yeah. To set yourself up. Like, cause now things are skyrocketing again, you know? And so I did, I had, um, four BBLs and my breasts done. You look amazing though. Most girls who have had that much work done don't look that good. They look like you still look natural. That was the goal. Yeah. And I didn't have, well, actually I was, I got in a lot of shape before I had my surgery. So a lot of girls don't. And so that's why they have so much fat to

put back there? I didn't. I was very in shape. He's like, where the fuck do you want me to take this from? I'm like getting creative and creative.

But I also, I designed my body particularly to have the wide hips. Yes. A lot of girls put it all in the back and I just, I don't, I didn't really like that aesthetic for me. I've always had white hips. And so I really just wanted to accentuate that. I always had wide hips too. Yeah. And so I, um, and so now I love my body. I'm so proud of it. I actually had the fat buckle removed out of my cheeks as well to kind of slim everything out. Um, and so, um,

You know, I share my mug shots and everyone's like, oh, it's all plastic surgery. And I'm like, yeah, but it's also mental. Like it actually, 90% of it's mental because if I didn't, if I didn't reach the mindset that I had to be able to love myself enough to make that investment in the way that I present myself, um,

none of it would have happened. Absolutely. Money or not, sugar daddy or not. I couldn't agree more. I literally posted a thing about my domestic violence on TikTok and it's almost to like a million views. And you wouldn't believe the amount of people who are like, oh, that's makeup. Oh, you got plastic surgery. Like anybody will try to discredit your hard work. When they're not doing the work

themselves at all literally deflected they're at home sitting fucking eating cheetos fucking yelling out there beating their wife talking shit you know like these motherfuckers like never let anybody dull your shine because these trolls literally live for that shit so you started getting your body done when did you decide to move to Miami

Well, um, I, me and my, you know, previous arrangement, we decided to part ways. Um, he was a big politician. And so with the election and everything coming up and being in a conservative state, it was, he had to lay low. Yeah. So I understood that, um, which I got my settlement and walked away because that's how things work. Yeah. So when I got my settlement, I decided, um,

I love that you're so honest about it because most girls would lie and be like, oh, I did this or I, you know, I got money this way. Yeah. No, most girls wouldn't be that honest and say, oh, you know, I got a settlement. So I set myself up like girls wouldn't say that. So I think that's really endearing. Well, it was, it was, um, it was kind of our, we'd actually previously agreed upon that. If, if anything were to ever end, um, he would pay me a certain amount to walk away quietly. Right. Right.

Yeah. Because he was married. I'm going to be very honest about that. But again, in a very conservative relationship or environment, these men aren't even, they only get, they get sex once a year or just to reproduce. You know what I mean? He hadn't been with his wife in almost 12 years. Wow. And I'm like, I will take very

- He's like, "Pondak, come on to my house, to my house." - Yeah, exactly. So he actually, honestly, talked about wanting to marry me. - I'm sure he misses you. - You know, for a long time he was like, "Well, would you be open to that? You'll never have to worry about anything ever again." And I'm like, "As great as that sounds,

I don't want to be rescued. You know, I said maybe when I'm 35, 40 and if we revisit the situation and I haven't met someone because he's an amazing man. Yeah. I would do it in a heartbeat if I was in a position with age. Yeah. I just want to accomplish certain things. Yeah. So, yeah, when I got that, I just decided that

I wasn't meant to be in Utah anymore. You know, I was the only girl with a body getting plastic surgery done. And believe me, I've got an I hate K fan club on Twitter of these girls just so upset. And they're from high school. Like I literally haven't seen them since high school. Imagine having that much time in the day. But they were, they're bullied. It's funny. They, they're, they're, they're upset.

because they bullied me and called me ugly and broke because I didn't have any of the nice things. I didn't get a car. My daddy didn't buy me a car when I was 16. You know, I had to wait until I was 24, but my daddy bought me

So, you know, I had to wait, but the payoff was longer because all these pretty girls were cute in high school. Now they're all working at coffee shops and they look like swamp donkeys. And here I am on the cover of magazines and traveling the world. Exactly. And they're really upset. And the funny thing is, though, is I'm not even bitter about it. I actually genuinely feel bad for these women. You know, I really hope that it gets better. So honestly, that just got really bad.

I actually had a company attempt to sue me for half a million dollars. For what? It was a blow-dry company, blow-dry bar. I was giving them, like, 90% of their business. And one of their employees, who is a cute little gay boy, started harassing me because I wouldn't, like...

mentor him and tell him like he wanted to my body. He wanted makeup and to cling on to me. And one time I just said, baby, you got to step the fuck back. So I put him in his place. He was a receptionist. And after that, he went crazy. He was making fake accounts. He was harassing me and blasting me all over Snapchat craziness. And I'm like, what?

Just because I told you no. Wow. You know, like a stubborn little boy. So anyways, I actually... Typical man, even if he's gay. So I went to the owner of the blow-dry company. It was like, look, your employee is harassing me. I would really like to terminate our agreement if you're not going to do anything about it. Yeah. Because she did refuse. She was like, that happened outside of my work environment. Wow. So it has nothing to do with me. I'm like...

But that still represents your company. Exactly. You know, like if Mimi or Monica was bullying somebody and they came to me, I would have to address that. That's a direct representation of you. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I mean? And that's why you got to be careful and selective about who you let represent your brand. And so long story short, I...

A lot of people noticed I wasn't going there anymore because I was posting twice a week. I was going to get blowouts. I was, you know, full-blown thing. And so I did one of those questionnaires on Instagram and someone asked about it. And so I... You were honest. To the point, just said, I was being harassed. The owner refused to do something about it. So I terminated the relationship. Literally. Which is professional as fuck. I didn't say anything. I wasn't like...

I quit doing that a long time ago. You know what I mean? Like I'm a grown ass woman, but when someone asks me something, I will point blank, you know, tell the truth. Absolutely. And so they took that as slander, but honestly, they were just waiting. They were, no, they were, they were waiting for that. And, um,

And they were already doing so badly without my business. Even three weeks of me not being there, they were like, damn. Because it was called the Bougie Blow-Dry Bar. Yeah. Are we allowed to mention them? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I am. Oh, I'm done now. Yeah. They had...

no grounds to stand on whatsoever. I got served papers. So for almost a whole year, I was there. I was like nine months. I was dealing with, I had to pay a lawyer because if I didn't, if I didn't handle it correctly, I could be liable for that money. Right. Right. So they were just hoping that I wouldn't be smart enough to handle it the right way. And so, um, honestly, once that was done and things ended with my everything,

I feel like I've had enough of this fucking city. I'm good. I'm free. Like, you know what I mean? I'm just, I, and, and also my mom started to, um, you know, to first full circle back. My mom is clean for five years. Um, she is, you know, bipolar schizophrenic. So she, yeah, she has to be heavily medicated, but as long as she has her medication and she's in her routine, um, she does really well. And she is, I, I, I'm actually, uh,

with gratitude that my mom is who she is right now because she is, she's done everything she can to make up for it. Yeah. Because she knows she was a bad mom and she knows that she neglected me. And that little girl inside of you needs that. Yeah. And she just, I, and I just now, I love her so much. I love her so much. You guys are going to make me fucking cry. She just, so she actually, you know, I had an, I started spending a lot of time with her. I'd go get her. We'd go to get our nails done. And I just felt like,

I was that little girl who like had a mom, you know what I mean? And so I kind of fell off grid. I didn't go out a lot anymore. I was really just focused on Kyler's care, selling a lot of real estate and being with my mom again, because I didn't really get that time with her. And, but also with all that other stuff going on, I just knew that I wasn't meant to be in Utah the rest of my life. And so I, um, actually, um,

Went to Jamaica for the Paradise Challenge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see those all the time. With Black Tate Projects. Yeah. And it changed my life. Yeah. I met so many incredible people. I actually started a new Instagram two weeks before I went. And...

I met some of the most amazing people in the world and they were 90% of them were from Miami. Yeah. And they're all like Utah. Yeah. Cause you don't look like you're from Utah at all. No, no. So they, they were extremely surprised and I just like, I was so inspired. I came back and was like, I'm, I'm going. Yes. But I'm not, but I had already tried LA once when I was,

21 for like three months it chewed me up spit me out it's like no you're not meant to be here which is too liberal for me anyways so uh and it's just la i feel like has just a dark cloud over it there's just so much hate and anger and anguish and hurt overcrowded toxicity there yeah it's crazy exactly well i had to start like calculating i was like okay so what's gonna be

you know, the, the smartest decision too. Cause I'm not trying to just pick up and be like peace, you know, cause then that's when you fail. Right. You have to formulate a plan, map out your steps and make it happen. So, um, I started thinking, okay, where can I sell multimillion dollar real estate? Because I had only reached like maybe a mil in Utah. Yeah. Unless I wanted to go put on a turtleneck and pretend to be

somebody I wasn't, I could have went to Park City and sold that real estate, but I didn't. Yeah. So I had to think about where can I sell very high end property and where can I still model? Yeah. Because I'm a really fucking good model. Yeah. I mean, your pictures, I send them to Mimi all the time and they're just gorgeous. Thank you.

I'm like, dude, look how pretty she is. You guys are amazing. I, um, so, and that's when I really started to level up in my modeling too, because of the photographers that I've had on my vision board for so long, but never had access to because I was in Utah. I was like, wow, these people are like accessible and reachable. All I have to do is like be somewhere and, and have the courage to go put myself in front of them. Yeah. Because you know, um,

you know, secret agents don't sell. So you have to make yourself known. And so that's really when I started thinking about the best place for me. I thought about Vegas, thought about Scottsdale even because I love Scottsdale. Yeah, it's fucking hot as shit out there. And it was still on the West Coast too, but I really, Miami just spoke to me. And I have a- And you have so much life left that you could literally do Miami for a year or two or, you know, and then go somewhere else that you want to go, you know? Exactly. So it's not like-

You're like a little butterfly right now. You're just spreading your wings. I was tied down for a really long time because I had an obligation to my brother. I wouldn't say obligation. Let me correct that. I understand what you're saying. I had a commitment to ensure that my brother was taken care of. And I couldn't leave until I knew that he would have that support that was necessary for him to feel loved. And so like I was getting back with my mom, you know, when her and I started to get closer and I told her I was going to leave,

I, I kind of, I asked her, mom, can you, can you step up? I've been doing this for seven years now. I've been doing, and you're a disability. You don't work. You're so is Kyler. You know what I mean? You guys can eat each other and I will make sure you guys are very well taken care of, but I'm not going to be able to provide the lifestyle that I want for both of you and myself here in Utah. I've reached my full capacity. So let me go spread my wings and fly. And I can, I,

I promise you, I will have grandpa retired on the family farm and a house bought for you guys, handicapped equipped so that you guys can all just be together. And I will, everything will be taken care of. Yeah. And so she, yeah, she just was like, okay, you know, she, she's like, okay, what do you want me to do? So I bought her a car before I left. And, um,

you know she gets to go two or three times a week and they actually had closed down his entire facility for a whole year covid because he's in respiratory right so the whole facility was shut down for a year so i actually got to go be with him for about two months before i left so this was last sept um october that i had made the decision to leave right and i knew that i was going to come in spring right um so i came out for my birthday in january did some house shopping um

And I found the perfect place and I went home and tied everything up. And here I am today. You are like, what a fucking insane story though. Like you literally rose from ashes. What would you say to a little girl that is in the same situation that you were in? If you could look back at you when you were going through all that, what would you need to hear? Yeah.

I mean, really? You want me to say it? Yeah, of course. Nobody cares. Work harder. I mean, it's real, though. But really, though, because...

For a long time, I threw myself a pity party. No one was attending but me. Yep. And now that's why I'm so blunt to the point. Like, if I fuck up, I hold myself accountable immediately. I'm like, you're the one that did this. You need to work harder. This is what you need to do. Do it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Don't talk about it. Be about it. And so I guess... I have the same attitude. On the hard side, that's really what I would say. But also, I mean, I think a reassurance that...

it's always extremely dark before it gets very bright. Absolutely. And so all of this was meant for something very, very big. If you allow it to, because you've got, you've got a choice. It's either going to make you or it's going to break you. And that, that term has never been more relevant than it is now because you know, if you choose to be a product of your circumstances, you can't blame anybody else, but yourself. You can't even be mad at your parents anymore. It was your choice. Cause once you get to a certain age, you're,

We know right from wrong. If you're going to swim and being a victim, you're going to stay there. You're literally going to drown and just be a victim. But if you choose to rise up above the water and just fucking kick ass, you're, you're going to make something of yourself. As long as you learn from your, your life, which you definitely have, um, you've been having problems with Instagram. Um,

They hate me. Dude, this poor baby. I have so many of the IG girls come on and literally like, you poor baby. So they deleted her account. You got it back. And then they deleted it again. Well, I got extorted. So the hacker who got my account back sent me a text last Friday and said, rip to your Instagram account. And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, pay me $2,000 right now or I'm going to permanently delete you.

And I was like, have a great day. Was he from in this country? Yeah. His name is Anthony Carlson. Ladies, do not buy from Anthony Carlson. Okay. I actually wanted to like blast him because I have all the information. But like, I also didn't want it because I had been building my backup. I didn't want to target my backup. Right. And like blast him. But then it's like, okay, then he'll take down that one. You know what I mean? And so at this point, I also think, um,

Once you mess with a hacker, you're done. It's game over. Game over. Once you start buying-- and then this is another thing. Once you start buying engagement or verifications or doing anything that's not legitimate, you fuck yourself. And so for me, I had worked extremely hard to build very raw

and authentic engagement. I mean, I, you know, I'm at 60,000 followers, but I'm getting 10 to 15,000 likes of people who are fully invested in me, seeing me evolve in my, in my modeling career. Right. And then slaying houses on the side, like they were, they were loving it, you know? Um, and, and so, but as soon as you, I, like I said, as soon as you, you know, dabble and, and as soon as it was gone, I should have just, um,

with Instagram directly. Right. You start fucking with someone who's not with Instagram or those forms that they make you feel like you're screwed. You know? So I actually just, I heard from someone today, they said that my account is recoverable. Yay. But at this point, I just don't even know if I want it. I really don't because it's already targeted. It's targeted. And it's like, it's so much stress trying, because the first time it was gone, guys, I was like, I'm picking my shit up. I'm going back to Utah. Yeah.

You guys are fucking assholes. Cause I really thought like, that's my livelihood. You know what I mean? My sources of income, my leads, my network, my database. People don't realize how much we fucking invest in our profiles. Do they think we're just posting pictures for fun? And it's like, no, we are building a brand. I'm sharing a message with the world. I'm inspiring. Yeah. I mean, whatever, whoever's doing it, like the way you do yours, you know, people are invested in you and seeing you succeed in your podcast and everything else, your family, all of it.

And so for even me, like Kyler, people are like, how's Kyler? Is he doing well since you're moved? They're checking in on me to make sure I'm alive because I'm in a new city completely alone. I packed up my entire life and shipped myself across the country with nobody here. Which is so admirable, though. And so I think, honestly, at this point with Instagram...

They can keep it. She's like, fuck it. I don't care. Because here's the thing. Like I said, I had just started that account back in September before I went to the Paradise Challenge. Right, right, right. And I built it in the last nine months to 70K. Yeah. All organic. I think that's amazing. Some people have had their accounts for 10 plus years and it's taken forever. Me. Me.

Yes. I literally, it took me nine years to get fucking verified. Oh my God. It didn't matter how many articles I had, which I never paid for articles. Yeah. Didn't matter how many articles I had. Didn't matter that I was married to a rapper. Didn't matter fucking anything, dude. Instagram did not want to give me verification. It took us getting our TV show to fucking get me verified. That's so crazy. Insane, right? Yeah. I'm like, dude, it's- I think they pick and choose though. Oh, they do. They like-

They like skinny bitches. Dude, I don't know because there's a girl, one of your friends, her account is fucking huge and she's literally half naked all the time and I'm not being a hater. I love bitches, don't get me wrong. But at the same time, I'm like, how are you going to take Viking Barbie's account and leave that account up? You know, it's just crazy. Trust me. So, okay. The story is amazing and I want to keep having you coming back.

Of course. All the time. I want to check in with you. We come out to Miami, so maybe we'll have you come in. I want to go to Nashville, though. Dude, come. I want to come out and hang out with you. You would love it. Bring up a little countryside. Dude, you would love it. The boys out there. Mo needs a friend to party with. Let's go do some swing dancing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I want to bring you back on. So, I mean, if you want to come to Nashville, you can come see our studio out in Nashville, too. Just, I love everything about you, and I love what you're doing. And I'm so excited to see where this...

Miami venture goes for you. I'm so excited to see the growth out here with you just, you know, spreading your wings, becoming a little butterfly. I want to see, I want to keep up with Kyler and all that stuff, dude. Like you have a really good story. Have you ever thought about writing a book? Yeah. I'm going to get a ghostwriter though, because my attention span,

I tried. I literally wrote three chapters and I'm like, I can't do this. Yeah. But a ghostwriter, you can just send voice notes and they put everything together. It's still my word. So I, that is going to come unapologetically self-expressed will be my book from beginning to end. I just, I feel like I want to get to a certain threshold to where the ending is better. Yeah. What do we, what, what can we expect from Kay in the next year?

um i will be one of the top producing agents in miami yes ma'am i'm going to sell multi-million dollar property that's honestly what my focus is right now yes um i actually take my exam on friday wish me luck guys um it's a lot of you know rehearse stuff because i did it in utah for so long but it's a different playing field out here so i'm actually going to step back from shooting for a little while because i've got a lot of content on deck um and i'm rebuilding my port

because I had to start from scratch so in the next year you guys will see me on the cover of multiple magazines you just got one adult star came out yes and then I'm actually gonna be in rogue on the cover of rogue in August and then AJ Kay and I are working on some Playboy Mexico stuff oh dude you need to be a Playboy I know you are like the I you are

You are like the ideal playboy and you're what they need to bring back the body, you know, because I feel like they got so far away from like women, you know, now they have like, and we're not bashing anybody. I love all bodies, but I just feel like playboy is the essence of woman and woman is hips and curves and booties and boobs, you know? So I feel like they got away from that, but I can't, I'm excited to see. All of that's coming. So thank you so much for your time and energy and the opportunity. I'm really grateful. Why don't you tell people where they can find you?

My Instagram is at Kay Jenkins, K-A-Y-J-E-N-K-I-N-S dot TV. I used to be .co, okay? But it's Kay Jenkins dot TV. Yay. And you guys need to go check out her profile because she's hot and she does not disappoint. And you engage with everybody too, which I think is really cool. I try to. Yes. All right. Well, thank you guys for listening to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.