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What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dawn Blonde. We are not in the new studio yet. I can't talk. We are not in the new studio yet, but we will be. So we are sitting at my dining room table and we are going to do, I guess we could kind of call this a deep dive on Gypsy Rose Blanchard. I have my striking young lads over here.
Mimi. I thought you were talking about Chachi. I thought she was talking about Chachi. No. Ladettes. I have my striking young Ladettes here. How are you guys doing? We're doing great. So I'm good. I'm good.
I'm hungry. I'm stupid. You guys, we ordered food forever ago and the time keeps going up and I feel we call this getting Schlotzky because Jay and I, I was going to say, I know. No, no, no. Me and Jay do because there was one time that Jay was so hungry and he has never ordered from Schlotzky's ever. Right. It's a real place. Oh, it's a real place. And he ordered a fucking sandwich from Schlotzky's and I'm telling you, he ordered at like seven.
At 1130, they were supposed to be bringing it. Or no, it was probably 11. At 11, they were supposed to be bringing it. The fucking restaurant closed and he never got a sandwich. He never got the sandwich. So we call it getting Schlotzky because they just keep moving the time up and up and up. Oh, tragic. After four hours. When I happened to be in New York, you guys, when I went back up to my hotel room, when we were walking and we're down by St. Patrick's Cathedral, we ordered it and I wanted like...
like a little dessert to get delivered. And I was like, by the time we walk all the way back to Times Square, it should be delivered, right? His food got delivered and mine, as the guy showed up, canceled the fucking order. No, that is the worst. I feel like they should fucking have to pay for that. It was awful. Like that is like emotional distress. That's what I would like them
a especially when you've been waiting like an hour and you want something you have like a taste in your mouth yeah you just wanted it it looks so good yeah speaking of times square we just rang in the new year ring-a-ding-ding ring-a-ding-ding we fucking had our new year's kiss under the ball dropping in times square with bailey with us and ll cool j and ryan seacrest that shit was crazy crazy like so nuts
Yeah. We kissed. Did you guys full on tongue? No. It was a little peck. For the New York New Year. The Nashville one. The Nashville New Year. It was in the airport. You guys are pretend gay. Yeah. Andy, how does that make you feel? Because Andy's real gay.
I always give them a hard time. I'm like, would you eat a muff? And they're always like, no. Would you eat a muff? Yeah, baby. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, but it was just magical. It really was a very magical moment. The moment I looked up and saw the confetti coming down, I will be honest, everyone, I cried like a little bitch. I cried once. I didn't really cry then, but then on Instagram is when I found out that the confetti was hand-thrown, and that's when I cried because I'm...
Yeah. This one panicked over here. Yeah. Well, I mean, you got people throwing shit on you from fucking, you know, you don't even know where it's coming from. Well, some have riding on them too. So, which means they were like manhandled. Let's not freak her out. I had to really block it out.
So anyways, we ordered food a while ago and the time just keeps going up and up and up. And just a minute ago, it was at six fifty five. Then it went up to seven ten. Then it went up to seven fifteen. Tell them I'm going to cry. And now I always message at seven thirty five. No, I swear to God. Message the guy and be like, what the fuck is happening? Nobody's even preparing your order.
Oh, they haven't even finished. They haven't even done the wrapping up. No. Should I call them? Mine doesn't do the wrapping up. Pause. While we wait, let's dive into the icon of the...
the month right now like gypsy rose is really getting a lot of attention and i could listen to her talk forever i love her voice yeah you like how she yeah i love her voice they do say that um when girls have trauma at such a young age their voices get stuck like that in high-pitched
I used to have a friend named Katie who had a really high-pitched voice like that. Wow. They almost still sound like little girls. Yeah. It's sad. It's like harboring that little part that you didn't get in your life. Yeah. She has so much trauma, dude. It's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's weird how like kind of normal I feel like it is.
She is right now with what she freaking went through. Yeah, for sure. It's definitely a lot to take on. And I was, I started watching her lifetime episodes last night and
Her dad's not a bad looking dude. She must be on some type of like publicist run or her publicist got her like doing the rounds because there are so many interviews. We've got Lifetime. We've got ABC. We've got NBC. Like all of the things are just coming for her. And I don't know how she's able to keep that composure so well. I'm wondering if someone was training her in jail before she got out because she is so well-spoken.
Um, I think probably, yeah, working with somebody, training her. But also when you come from such traumatic shit like that, you learn to have calm in the chaos.
so true very true i really think you know and not to mention she spent a lot of time in hospitals she spent a lot of time around people who talked you know and she wasn't not all there so like she was able to comprehend everything they were saying yeah so i just it's crazy to me she knows exactly what to say when she's asked watching that um i think it was abc i believe
did a interview with her and they asked some really like interesting questions that I feel like they were trying to slip her up almost and get her to say something. And her responses were so well, like articulated that it really impressed me. Well, she's had eight years to sit in there and think of what she's going to say to, you know? And I mean, I believe everything about her story. I think even down to the grandpa molesting her, that was, um, in the first season,
two episodes of her thing last that dropped last night the lifetime thing and
You know, the grandpa denied it. And I'm just like, this little girl's been through so much. She's not little anymore, but this girl has been through so much that it's like why her grandpa molesting her is like the least of her worries. And I'm not downplaying her trauma. I'm just saying this girl's had her teeth ripped out of her head because of her mom. Like crazy shit, you know? So I don't think her saying, hey, my girl. And the weirdest thing was, did you guys watch any of the episodes? A little bit of it, yeah. The grandpa, whenever they said this to him...
was completely guilty. He sat there and looked at him and was like, no, I never touched her. She used to try to touch me when she was four years old. Like,
ew why would you say that like even this is the grandpa of the mom so like that already tells me the mom was already sick in the fucking head well i think got it from someone yeah i think maybe he did it to the mom and then most definitely never know gypsy said she did try to talk to her grandpa about her mom about it and the mom like started like blaming herself and crying and all this stuff and gypsy said she just kind of shut down because of course her mom was making it all about her of
Of course. It wasn't about her child's trauma. You know, it had to go, it had to be about her. So. Well, let's dive in. Let's start talking about it. Yeah. This story is crazy, man. And I really feel like she deserves everything she's getting right now. Talking about being a sensation, Gypsy Rose has come out of jail and overnight has gained 7.4 million followers on social media.
Her first selfie was epic. Across all socials? No, just TikTok. Okay, I was going to say, I think, yeah, I'm going to go look at her TikTok right now. Her first selfie? Epic. I know. I've never seen somebody's TikTok grow this fast. They already have it verified. Yeah, like it's crazy. Her team works hard, that's for sure. They put in work. Eight million. She's at eight million. So since last night when I typed in the 7.4, she has grown. She's still 7.4 on TikTok.
On Instagram. Okay. So since last night she has jumped to the 8 million. Yeah. Because she has become more active on TikTok also. Yeah. And, you know, came out of the gates just selfie'd up looking amazing. Married. Like. She's so cute, right? Adorable. She looks like a cute little possum.
Don't you think? Like just the cutest, like little, just you want to just kiss her little face. Her little eyes are adorable. I love it. Is she not adorable? And she's not, and like, I don't know why, I guess I thought she was younger than she is, but she's not. She looks young. Her skin's gorgeous. She looks young. How old is she? 31. 31. Okay.
Like that prison fucking skincare routine. Whatever she was doing. Amazing. Well, they probably they're not wearing makeup and stuff, too. So I feel like that probably fucking helps. So to start this off, if you guys don't know who she is or if you're living under a rock and have never heard this story before, we're going to go ahead and give you the full breakdown, starting all the way back to her mother, Dee Dee. Good old Dee Dee. You want to get us started? Dee Dee Blanchard was born.
Claudine Petrie in Louisiana near the Gulf Coast in 1967 and grew up with her family in nearby Golden Meadow. She was one of the five children of Claude Anthony Petrie Sr. That's Gramps, right? And Emma Lou, Emma Louise Petrie.
Gis Claire. And they are so Cajun, dude. Very Cajun. So Cajun. Is that what they're called? Cajun? Right? Because they talk with that Louisiana Cajun accent. You know, you can't understand them. No, it's crazy. Cajun is actually French. Fun fact, everyone. It's French for trash. Can we talk about your moment? No. No, but they have a very strong accent. And
five kids so she's one of five did you say that yep one of five um relatives she was a middle child yeah relatives recalled that she had a habit of stealing from her family which they speculated was a form of retaliation when things didn't go her way at some point early in her adult life she worked as a nurse's aid the family expressed suspicion that in 1997 she might have killed her own mother
denying her food. So she starved her own mother. I also read that she was like slowly poisoning her too. Oh, so like sprinkling. Didi was? Yeah. Sorry guys, I don't know what the. Wet your whistle. I'm trying to. The fucking Uber Eats driver just messaged me. Said it's going to be about 25 minutes do we want them to wait.
We've already been waiting. It's going to take just as long to get anything out. I was going to say, yeah. It'll take. Tell him to throw in some free breadsticks. Free breadsticks. So how was she withholding food from her mom? She was a nurse's aide. She was the nurse's aide for her mom. So it was probably her responsibility to do such things as like feeding and taking care for. I wonder if she did it to anyone else too. Like I wonder if she was an aide for anyone else and would also. Dee Dee had to be sick in the mind.
Yeah.
Yet you guys were fine with her having a child and doing this to her. But you guys suspected that she killed somebody. I feel like what's wrong with this family? They had this has to be within the genes. This can't get in your DNA. Motherfuckers. Someone peed in your gene pool. Yeah, literally. No, this is this is more than piss. This is somebody took a big old nine inch turd. Nine inch turd fell from the butthole.
into these genes yeah yeah for sure and that's j g e n e s i don't even know how you just spelled that i i'm so hungry i fucking almost couldn't take it away well when she was 24 she became pregnant by rod blanchard then 17.
What? Sounds not legal. Wait. Yeah. What? Yeah, they said that in the Lifetime thing. She was 24. He was 17. Well, she lied. She lied about her age to him. That's what he said. Oh, Rod. And Rod's a good looking dude. He's not bad looking. I need a picture of Rod. Rod. Rod. I don't think I've seen him. So I first. Look on her social media. She put up like a family picture together. I was on her selfie that has 6.5 million likes per. Are you kidding me? That's her dad. Yeah. What? That's what I said. What?
That's what I said. I'm like, how did I'm not understanding how him and fucking old Deidre. I wonder if they were in a relationship. She was pretty. Yeah. For like a year. I wonder if they were in a relationship though, or if it was like a one night stand type of thing. Well, he said that they got married after she got pregnant within like three months. And, um,
after a year of them being together, he told her like, Hey dude, I don't want to be in this. Yeah. They broke up before. Yeah. And the mom always blamed her and said that your dad left me because you weren't the son that he wanted. Yeah. That's fucked up to do to a child. How do you say that to a child? Like that's so fucking weird. That's awful. But like, give it up. If you don't want the child, give it up for adoption, man. Like,
I don't know. I feel like she kind of saw her ticket, though. Oh, for sure. And a way to control him. Yeah, for sure. Because she was very crazy about their relationship. She wouldn't let them have a relationship together. They named their daughter Gypsy Rose because Dee Dee liked the name Gypsy and Rod was a fan of Guns N' Roses. Shortly before Gypsy's birth in July of 1991, the couple separated when Rod realized he got married for the wrong reasons.
He resisted Dee Dee's efforts to get him to return, and she took her newborn daughter to live with her family. Gypsy often went with her parents to Special Olympics events. In 2001, when Dee Dee claimed Gypsy was 8, she was actually 10. She was named the Honorary Queen of the Crew of Mid-City, a child-oriented parade held during Mardi Gras in New Orleans. Okay.
It's so weird that she just wanted her kid to be younger than she was. Like she's still a child. 10 years old is not grown that much older. Yeah. It's so weird. I feel like something happened to DD when she was really young. And I know that we had kind of touched on that before, but like she was trying to like hold onto that adolescence with everything that she had.
Well, I think the younger she was, too, the more perks she got. It seemed like. Yeah. She seems very conniving. Oh, yeah. I wonder if we know Gypsy's real age, if her birth certificate was actually destroyed. Well, she forged her birth certificate.
Weird. That'll do it. Wow.
Gypsy's father had remarried and Dee Dee moved in with her father and stepmother. They later said that when preparing food for her stepmother, Dee Dee poisoned it with Roundup weed killer, leading to the stepmother's chronic illness during this period.
During that time, Dee Dee was arrested for several minor offenses, including writing bad checks. When the Petries began to regularly confront her about her treatment of Gypsy and express suspicion about her role in her stepmother's health, Dee Dee left with Gypsy for the New Orleans suburb of, I think it's Sledell? How do I pronounce that? Sledell. Her stepmother's health returned to normal shortly after. Why didn't they test her blood? But like, why was she living with Gypsy?
She couldn't afford to go anywhere else. You're just...
That's awful. But also if you're feeling sick eating this food, why don't you stop eating this food? But they even said, I even saw like when she wasn't around and she wasn't eating their food, she would feel better. So I'm just like, how do you not catch on to that? I mean, you have to know. Let me eat something and get sick one time from somebody. I'm never eating again. She doesn't. I won't eat from anybody anyways. But like, that's just insane to me that.
God, she just kept doing it. Her mom, then her. They're like, hey, are you poisoning her? You know, and like letting her fucking lie her way out of it and then continuing to let her cook for this woman. I don't feel like...
I don't know. They had to be sick in their own heads because there's no way that you just... Maybe oblivious. Maybe that's what it is. No, they're not oblivious. They knew it was going on. Oblivious would mean that they weren't paying attention or that they didn't know what was going on. They knew what was going on. That's awful. Yeah, that's exactly what they did. You let her leave with this child. Yeah. In Sladell... Sladell. In Sladell, she and Gypsy lived in public housing. They paid their bills with Rod's child's...
support payments and public assistance dd had been granted due to her daughter's supposed medical conditions so i'm wondering she must have been making these up when gypsy was young because it says that she left while she was a newborn and she's over here getting public assistance already while she's a newborn they saw various specialists mostly at how would you guys say that tulane shulane
mostly at the Tulane Medical Center and the Children's Hospital of New Orleans. Seeking treatment for the illness, Dee Dee claims Gypsy had, which now includes hearing and vision problems, with a muscle biopsy found no signs of the muscular dystrophy. Dystrophy. Dystrophy. Dystrophy. Dystrophy.
found no signs of muscular dystrophy dd insisted gypsy had she had successfully inscured treatments for gypsy's other issues after she told doctors gypsy had seizures every few months they prescribed anti-seizure medication don't you have to have proof for seizures
So back then, like... I'm confused. Back then, I don't think they had the technology that we have now. Like, they didn't do sleep studies. Because I was going to say, when Kayla had hers, didn't she have to have, like... You have to do sleep studies and stuff. Well, there's a thing with seizures, and, you know, this is what I've been told. I'm not...
100% positive. So anybody out there, if you have seizures, you know, please take this with a grain of salt. But one of the doctors did tell Kayla that in order to be diagnosed with a seizure problem, you have to have more than one.
Correct. I do remember her saying that is like, you can't be considered epileptic unless you have more than one seizure. Yes. Which is scary. Yeah. Because, you know, let's just risk it. Oh my gosh. So I don't know how, if they were like faking it, if she wasn't making Gypsy fake them or what. It says that she had several surgeries were performed on her during this time. Dee Dee regularly took Gypsy to the emergency room. For minor ailments. What if she maybe did?
Like what it, I mean, how do we, had said in the special, she said that she would do anything for her mom because she just wanted to feel loved. And if she didn't feel loved, um, if she didn't do what her mom wanted her to do, her mom would make sure that she didn't feel loved and would like love on the cat and like pet the cat and love on the cat and then look at her. Um,
But like as a newborn, she doesn't know to do that. So she's like, what if she actually had problems as a newborn, like for real? But then Dee Dee saw that she could get money from that and she just kept it going. She did. I feel like maybe that's what happened. She had an eye problem. She had an extremely lazy eye. And I think that's what she noticed. Yeah, because in the beginning they said something about vision issues. I heard she had like breathing problems or something like that. And that's where the sleep apnea came in. I don't believe the breathing.
the breathing problems. I think the mom was causing that, but the eye for sure. Something, you know, she was born with a lazy eye. Yeah. And being an adult has its high points. Like you can eat ice cream for dinner anytime, or if you want to stay up all night, you can, but it's not always fun. You also have to do your taxes and figure out what's for dinner every freaking night.
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And it even says it in here, like what we were just discussing, that if she didn't get her answer from one doctor, it did not stop her. She was going to walk-in clinics. She was going to different doctors and different specialists and different hospitals. And back then, we didn't have the technology we have now. The system where all the hospitals talk to each other.
Yeah. So you could have just shopped anyone in this time. And that because people back in the day, whenever I used to pop pills, they would doctor shop to get multiple pills before laws were passed. Oh yeah. Dude, I used to make so much money selling Laura tabs, dude. I'd go to one doctor, get a script for like 120, go to another doctor and I would sell them for four or $5 a pill. Wow. Sometimes $6 a pill. That's crazy. Yeah. It was nuts. I was back in the old days. Where did you leave off? The second page. Okay.
Convenient. That's where I was born.
So they're skipping ahead a lot in this article right here. Um, so her dad was trying really hard to be a part of her life and her dad had already remarried and I love her stepmom. Her stepmom's a dope bitch. You can just tell in her demeanor, the way she carries herself, like love everything about her. I was just like, okay, you know, like this is a good woman. And she, the lady, her stepmother was talking like, Hey, we have tried to have a relationship with her. We, during this time, um,
Didi had taken Gypsy and completely hidden her. They didn't know where... They thought they died in the Hurricane Katrina. Did...
The dad get with this stepmom shortly after. Since I think since she was five months old or something like that. So immediately he pretty much divorced her. Yeah. And goes and is with the same person. And she's a good looking woman. Yeah. You can tell. Yeah. Because it was so crazy because I was like. He's good looking. I was like, that's her dad because I didn't expect that. And I was like, not that I think he's hot or anything, but I was just like for sure.
Dee Dee, like it just was a mismatched pair. Yeah. And then I saw the stepmom and I was like, okay, that'll do it. You know, like I understand. Yeah. Like that, that's more his speed. Um, so yeah, they were trying to do that. And then this is the time when her mom started discovering that she could get like money and stuff. Yeah. Being sick. Yep. And then that's how she had them airlifted was this whole like,
like charity yeah so they're saying that she's special needs at this point so like at this is this turning she has cancer do have they already gone to cancer i feel like we're on like the verge of cancer no this is yeah this is right where she's saying she has cancer her head was already shaved so i'm i think she was already telling people she had leukemia is what she was telling people um but yeah yeah she regularly shaved her head
At first, Dee Dee and Gypsy lived in a rented home in Aurora in southwestern Missouri. During their time there, Gypsy was honored by the Olay Foundation, which advocates for the rights of feeding tube recipients. This made me so sick to my stomach when I saw it. Yeah. Oh, it's awful. Yeah. Just so crazy. As its 2007 Child of the Year, in 2008, Habitat for Humanity built them a small home with a wheelchair ramp and hot tub as part of the larger project
Sorry. It's part of a larger project on the north side of Springfield to the east, and the two move there. The story of a single mother with a severely disabled daughter forced to flee Katrina's devastation received...
Considerable local media attention And the community often pitched in To help the woman who now went by Claudine Blanchard Or however they I forgot how they pronounce it It was like Blanchard or something She had changed her name Didi had changed her name And whom they knew as Didi So
So, yeah, this time she's already telling people that she has cancer. This is now her, like, fresh start. No. You know, there's, like, no social media pre-Katrina. So, Katrina is, like, her turning point. And Blanchard is now, you know, starting fresh. So, no one's going to question...
her daughter no yeah at all especially if you're regularly regularly shaving her head yeah you're not gonna be like oh that's fake and you know i know her teeth were coming out she had her fucking saliva glands removed did you know that no had her own daughter's saliva glands removed so which made me think like can she like does her mouth i was going to i knew you
I was going to, but I switched it up because I didn't want to be disrespectful. But I, does her mouth get moist is the question because of her salivary glands are gone. How does she wet her whistle? Yeah.
You know? I mean, eating has to be an issue. Yeah. Most definitely. I'm also wondering in all of this. This is horrific. You almost won't think that Gypsy believed it. If you're raised your entire life being told the sky is red, you have no idea it's blue.
You know what I mean? She didn't believe it because she even says it in the interview. She knew that she was okay because like when her mom wasn't around, she would eat with everybody else. She would go jump on trampolines. But that's what I want to know. At what point did she have that like light switch? Her entire life. She knew that she wasn't wrong. She said that. I feel like maybe when she was younger, but I think maybe when she got older. I'm wondering like consciousness of it. Real young. She had no idea. That's wild. Like probably like toddler.
Or what was that called? I was like five. You start realizing, hey, mom, I can get up and walk. Why am I in this wheelchair? But she said she did it to just like. Because she wanted the love of her mom. The love from her mom. Yeah. That's. Which makes me so sad because in these interviews, you can see that she wants to cry talking about her mom.
And that's why I really actually love Gypsy now because you can see how much remorse she has. She still defends her mom a lot. Like when asked about her mom in that interview that I watched, she still has her mom's back in a lot of this, which I mean, you have to be trauma bonded to someone like this. For sure. Soul tie of some sort. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Rough. If anybody wants to know, our food is not on the way. Just want to let you guys know that. But we do have a fucking Uber Eats guy there. So yeah.
Many people who met Gypsy were charmed by her five foot height, nearly toothless mouth, large glasses and high childlike voice reinforced the perception that she had all the problems her mother claimed she did. Dee Dee regularly shaved Gypsy's head to mimic the hairless appearance of a chemotherapy patient, allegedly telling Gypsy that since her medication would eventually cause her hair to fall out, it was best to shave it in advance.
Jesus Christ.
Bro, that can't be good for mental. It's very shocking that Gypsy is so smart and rounded and like normal. Having the fact that you lived off of pediatrics. Into your 20s. That's not that long ago. That can't be healthy. No wonder she wanted to kill her mom. I mean, yeah. I saw she said that her first day in prison was...
she was happy. She felt free. She said she walked out into the courtyard and fucking was so happy because it was a breath of fresh air. Like that's sad. You're in prison and your first thought is, holy shit, I'm free. Yeah. I honestly believe a lot of people commit crimes and stuff to go to prison. Yeah. Like to be free, like to get out of situations. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Wow. I agree with that too.
Dee Dee used physical abuse to control Gypsy. Oh, she was beating her too? Physical and emotional, yeah. Always holding her hand in the presence of others. When Gypsy said something that suggested she was not genuinely sick or seemed beyond her...
purported mental capacity gypsy recalls that her mother would squeeze her hand very tightly when the two were alone dd struck her with an open hand or a coat hanger sounds like fucking mommy dearest that's fucking wild yeah
Medical interventions continued. Dee Dee had some of Gypsy's saliva glands treated with Botox, then extracted altogether to control her purported drooling. Gypsy later claimed her mother induced drooling by using a topical anesthetic to numb her gums before doctor visits.
What? God.
God. Botox in your saliva glands? Absolutely wild. Ow. And to have those tubes implanted in her ears is crazy because as a child, I suffered from severe earaches and they wanted to put tubes in my ears and my parents said no, but...
like to fake having severe ear infections. Like how did she do that? She probably had to cause trauma to gypsy's ears. I mean, if she's hitting her, I'm wondering if that like, or putting something in there to make the, you had to have blamed. Oh, how sad. Yeah. That's right. And there's really stuff we don't even know about. Oh,
Like babies can, that could have been one of, it's hard to tell what's true or not because like my kids have multiple ear infections a year. You know, it could have been teething. It could have been like all these different things that could be causing that, that. Yeah. But how old was she here? She really forced those things. Like if I wanted to, my kid had two ear infections this past year. I could be like, put tubes in his ears. But like in reality, if there's no medical records being shared, she could have literally gone to someone and be like, she's had five ear infections, put tubes in. Yeah. Yeah.
And in reality, it could have been like one. Right. That's so wild. God.
I couldn't imagine being this fucking weird dude. Fernando Flasterstein. We saw him on these interviews, the interview last night, a pediatrician, a neurologist who saw gypsy in Springfield became suspicious of her muscular dystrophy diagnosis. He ordered MRIs and blood tests, which found no abnormalities. I don't see any reason why she doesn't walk. He told DD on a followup visit after seeing gypsy stand and support her own weight. Uh,
Flasterstein noted that Dee Dee was not a good historian. After contacting Gypsy's doctors in New Orleans, he learned that Gypsy's original muscle biopsy had come back negative, undermining Dee Dee's reported diagnosis of muscular dystrophy as well as her claim that all Gypsy's records had been destroyed by flooding.
He suspected the possibility of Munchausen syndrome by proxy. DeeDee contrived to gain access to Flasher Sign's notes and subsequently stopped taking Gypsy to see him. Dang. They were on to her. They were on to her, bro. Yeah. I just don't understand. Like he said in the interview last night, because they were like, well, if you suspected this, why did you not do anything about it? He said, you can't call CPS without having proof.
And it's like, how much more fucking proof did you need? What other proof do you need to literally be like, yo? She's had multiple surgeries. That wasn't the proof. Her head is shaved. She's in a wheelchair. Salivary glands removed. Teeth out of her head. Like, what?
What the hell? Yeah. Like just she, I really feel like these doctors failed her. They dropped the ball wholeheartedly. So bad. And for them to even go on the show and still defend their actions is crazy. Like somebody needs to be like, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that I didn't want to get involved. Yes. Then I could respect it a lot more. And like now, if had this happened nowadays, they will call CPS literally for anything. People call CPS on people all the time. Yeah. It's crazy. Like you didn't have some, like, that's just really sad. I feel like the system failed gypsy in this. No, for sure. Supporting DD to social services, social services. He said other doctors had told him to treat the pair with golden gloves and doubted the authorities. Yeah.
would believe him anyways. In 2009, an anonymous caller told the police about Dee Dee's use of different names and birth dates for herself and her daughter and suggested Gypsy was in better health than claimed. Officers who performed the resolving wellness check accepted Dee Dee's explanation that she used the misinformation to make it harder for her abusive ex-husband to find her and Gypsy, without talking to Rod,
and reported that gypsy seemed genuinely mentally disabled the file was closed so those people also should say sorry they also failed everyone failed god yeah it reminds me of that one story I forget who it was but the kid like kept going into the system was getting beat by his parent Gabriel Hernandez is that it yeah that was so sad yeah and then the little boy
They kept him locked in like a cabinet. Yeah. Why do you have kids to do this to them? I feel like the people who don't deserve children have them. Yes. It's just crazy. Dee Dee seems to have at least once forged a copy of Gypsy's birth certificate, changing her birth date to 1995.
How sad. God. Yeah.
Dee Dee told her it was a misprint. Since 2001, Gypsy had attended science fiction and fantasy conventions, sometimes in costumes, since she could blend into their diverse and exclusive and inclusive communities in her wheelchair.
At a 2011 event, she made what may have been an escape attempt that ended when her mother found her in a hotel room with a man she had met online. Again, Dee Dee produced the paperwork giving Gypsy's false younger birth date and threatened to inform the police. Gypsy recalls that afterward, Dee Dee smashed her computer with a hammer and threatened to do the same to her fingers if she ever tried to escape again.
She also kept Gypsy leashed and handcuffed to her bed for two weeks. Dee Dee later told Gypsy that she had filed paperwork with the police claiming that Gypsy was mentally incompetent, leading Gypsy to believe that if she attempted to go to the police for help, they would not believe her. That sucks. But it also reminds me of like, didn't she lie to
To Gypsy's dad about her age too? Yeah. So it's like no fun when the rabbits got the gun. Right. Yeah. That's so scary. Sometime around 2012. So like we're, let me just like timeline this. So now we're in like 2012. Like I was a junior in high school and this was going on in a whole, like that's crazy. I was 22. Yeah.
Sometimes you're being a whore. Wait, you were 22 when I was a junior in high school? Let me think. No. 32? 32. Yep, 32. I don't even know. She said, I don't even know. I was like, we're not six years apart. I know it's fun to the twos. Gypsy, who continued to use the internet after her mother had gone to bed to avoid her tightened supervision, made contact online with Nicholas...
Gojan? Gojan? Mm-hmm. Gojan, a man around her age from Big Bend, Wisconsin, whom she said she had met on a Christian singles website. Christian. Oh. He had a criminal record for indecent exposure and a history of mental illness sometimes reported as dissociative identity disorder. Mm-hmm.
He had also been autistic. So we're going to hop back into this. In 2014, Gypsy confided to 23-year-old neighbor, Aaliyah Woodmansey, who, unaware that Gypsy was closer to her own age, considered herself a big sister. She confided that she and Gojan had discussed eloping and had even chosen names for potential children.
Gypsy, who had five separate Facebook accounts and Gojin flirted online, their exchange is sometimes using BDSM elements, which Gypsy has since claimed was more what he was interested in. Woodman C tried to talk her out of it, still thinking Gypsy was too young and possibly being taken advantage of by a sexual predator.
Whoa.
Yeah, that's crazy. So in 2014, we've already got like super smartphones. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's FaceTime even at this point. Like you're fully technologically aware. But here's the thing. She's 24. Yeah.
Like, she's about to start bucking. You know, like, she's like, I'm ready to rock. I want to get the fuck out of here. I want to have kids with this dude. Like, poor baby had to have, like, an online fantasy life. Imagine what he told her. I would love to see the transcripts between.
between them. But imagine what he's, like, opening her eyes to that she had no idea about. Yeah. And then, not only that, your first sexual, like, encounters with this person is to talk, like, in a BDSM way. Like, she doesn't know that, like... Like, abusive, almost. So she might think that that's good. It's normal or something. Oh.
insane the next year gypsy arranged and also paid for godman to meet her mother in springfield her plan was for him to just casually bump into her while she and dd were at the movie theater both of them in costume and apparently strike up a relationship that way and then later for her to introduce him to her mother as soon as they did meet in person for the first time
He said Gypsy led him to the bathroom where the two of them had sex. So she obviously wasn't a virgin, which would corroborate her stories about her grandfather, unless there was some other dick she got somewhere along the line. What do you mean she wasn't a virgin? If she's just taking this dude in the bathroom and they're banging and she's a virgin, like I seriously doubt that.
Well, that's why we need Gypsy on the podcast. I know. Gypsy, come on. They said that the two had continued their internet interactions and began developing their plan to off. Fuck. Murder. Murder.
Gojan returned to Springfield in June of 2015, arriving while Gypsy and her mother were away at a doctor's appointment. After they had returned home and Dee Dee had gone to sleep, he went to the Blanchard house. Gypsy let him in and allegedly gave him duct tape, gloves, and a knife with the understanding that he would use it to murder Dee Dee.
He's kind of on the spectrum, isn't he? Or no? He's autistic. Yeah, he is. So I almost feel like, do you guys feel like this? Because I kind of feel like she may have manipulated him into getting her out of the situation she was with him. Knowing that she kind of had that control over him. I mean, she's fucking smart, you guys. Yeah. You know, and she has proven that time and time again. This gypsy is really smart. And to me, I feel like maybe she was like, this is my ticket out.
Maybe, I feel like maybe she told him everything and he maybe was like, you gotta kill her. Yeah, the only way out is to kill her. Yeah, because I feel like because she loved her so much, she might not have come up with the idea. I mean, yeah, that is true. I will take that into consideration because she still to this day, like... If she, yeah. She does like withhold like a standing with her mom. I mean, we'll probably never know. No, of course not. But I feel like it might have been him because...
He knew that she, the mom or that DD was probably going to get in the way of their relationship. True. So, yeah, I don't know. I think that maybe even if she did, you know, manipulate him, I think it just came naturally to her because you can't deny DNA, you
You know, so she has a part of her mom in her and I'm sure she is very good at manipulating. You know, it just matters if she's able to recognize that now. True. Like, you know, without even trying, without even being conscious that she's doing it because that's so ingrained in her. Yeah. Yeah. Which maybe her mom also had no, like, was the same way. Hmm.
Yeah, it goes back to whatever happened to Dee Dee when she was younger. Yeah. And her grandpa or her dad doesn't seem fucking like a stand up. So I want to know his childhood, too. You know, I feel like you preach this often, Bunny. And it's very interesting to me because I never thought of it in this way is like our parents.
are literally like surviving with trauma they never healed. Yeah. And it was our responsibility to then heal. Yeah, break that. Be the cycle breakers in this. And you see so often where those cycles are not broken. And I feel like this is a perfect example of that, that it took until Gypsy to be that cycle breaker. Yeah. I understand that. Gypsy hid in the bathroom and covered her ears so that she would not have to hear her mother screaming.
Nicholas then stabbed Dee Dee 17 times in her back while she was asleep. That's overkill. That's somebody who hates you. That is rage killing. Yeah. Afterward, the two had sex in Gypsy's room and took $4,000 in cash that Dee Dee had been keeping in the house, mostly from Rod's child support checks.
They fled to a motel outside of Springfield where they stayed a few days while planning their next move. During that time, they were seen on security cameras at several stores. Gypsy said at that point she believed the two had gotten away with their crime.
They mailed the murder weapon back to Nicholas's home in Wisconsin to avoid being caught with it. Why not throw it in the fucking river? That's the worst way to get rid of evidence. I'm just going to timestamp myself. Yeah. And then took a bus there. Several witnesses who saw the pair on their way to the Greyhound station noted that Gypsy wore a blonde wig and walked unassisted. Isn't it crazy? Yeah.
That Gypsy's mom, Dee Dee, was accused or suspected of killing her mom. And Gypsy did the same thing. Yeah. Manifestation. She went through with it, though. Yeah. But no, but she didn't kill. Yeah. I mean, Nicholas technically did it. She just happened to be a little bit smarter to not do it herself. Yeah. You know, Dee Dee wasn't there. Dee Dee wasn't able to, like. Do we know for sure that she didn't?
The only thing that makes me question the entire thing is her having sex with him right after the mom was murdered. Like that's kind of like, but again, I feel like we're in this spot of which she was not, she didn't know any different. So like in reality, he could have had that. Like, I mean, wouldn't you be traumatized after knowing she was just stabbed in the same 17 times? Like you were so scared. You had to cover your ears and,
But then you're not scared to where you can have sex in the next room. Yeah. Celebration sex is weird. Well, also, it's like highly erotic to like murder somebody. Well, if he's into BDSM, it probably turns him on. So like he probably then in turn was like. And they're into all that fantasy shit. She learned how to read from Harry Potter, you know? So it could have been like some like weird spell. You never know. Lived out some weird thing. God, seance. Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe they had sex with her blood all over her body. Okay. I mean, you never know. You don't listen. I mean, did he go? But that's the thing though. He had to have been covered in blood. Did you go take a shower after? He clearly probably didn't. So they probably did have sex in her blood because it's 17 times. You guys like imagine that mess. Yeah. Yeah. They boned in her blood. Yeah.
But like I said, did they know for sure she didn't do anything? I think that comes into the trial point of all of this is like, we're going to leave off. Moving on because this is a trial. Yeah.
After seeing concerning Facebook statuses posted from Dee Dee's account, the Blanchard's friends suspected something was amiss. When phone calls went unanswered, several friends and neighbors went to the house. While the friends and neighbors knew that the two often left on medical trips unannounced, they saw Dee Dee's mom's
modified car still in the driveway making an unannounced trip unlikely protective film on the windows made it hard to see inside in the low light no one answered the door so the friends called 911 when the police arrived they had to wait for a search warrant to be issued before they could enter but they allowed one of the neighbors present to climb through a window where he saw that inside of the house was largely undisturbed and that gypsy's wheelchairs were all still present
Ooh, I want to, I'm Googling gypsies Facebook posts. Cause what did she post? That was alarming. Well, no DD. She posted from DD's Facebook. Oh, saying what? Because remember she doesn't have a public Facebook at this point. But I wonder what they were saying for people to think that was alarming. When the warrant was issued, police entered the house and found DD's body. A GoFundMe account was set up to pay for her funeral expenses and possibly gypsies.
All who knew the Blanchards feared the worst. Even if Gypsy had not been harmed, they believed she would be helpless without her wheelchair, medications, and support equipment like the oxygen tanks and feeding tube. So to answer you guys' question, the posts that were on Dee Dee's Facebook were the bitch is dead.
well that that'll do it okay but that's still up right has anyone okay so like when all this like when we were talking about gypsy and like she got convicted and stuff i went on a deep dive onto facebook and i'm almost positive it stayed up for a good amount of time before it was deleted and that you could go on to dd's let me see because i did go on to dd's facebook i don't get through it did you want to be caught then
That's what I'm saying. But do you think it was him? I feel like she might have had just a tiny bit more to do with this than what she's letting on. Or... Because she would have had to have given him access to her mom's Facebook. True. You know? And to know that he's posting that, like, they're laughing about it, you know? Well, I'm just like...
Like where is her mind mentally? Is she celebrating? Like I know gypsy, everybody loves gypsy right now and this is not me knocking her at all. And I know that she portrays to be this really sweet girl, but her actions after her mom died does show somebody that has either just fucking went completely a wall and fucking bat shit crazy because she's been abused for so long or very manipulative and like
Cunning, almost. I almost feel, though... I mean, none of us have ever been in this situation. Ever, yeah. But had someone pulled my teeth out, shaved my head...
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Well, it makes you think, though, because...
Like, why not post it from her Facebook account? So I feel like maybe she wanted to disappear. So maybe if she put the bitches dead, people would think Dee Dee killed her or did something to her. And so she was, like, gone. So she could live, like, under the radar. Gotcha. Because she thought she got away with it. So I don't think she thought that. And that's why she was wearing the blonde wigs. Mm-hmm.
knowing damn well she's very noticeable yeah i feel like she wasn't smart enough to maybe think gotcha it all the way through more sense because i'm sitting here trying to like rationalize because i feel like they wouldn't tell on themselves if they were like thinking they got away with it because you wouldn't get away with it saying that yeah no no so if they post that from her account it maybe looks like she killed her daughter yeah also on the flip side when you're in an abusive relationship and i've said this numerous times on the podcast
you get to a point where you're like motherfucker if you touch me one more time i'm going to kill you yeah when i was in my abusive relationship i literally told him i bought him i bought a gun and that if he ever touched me again i was gonna blow his fucking head off and i meant it yeah you know like i was 20 years into this yeah yeah so she might have just fucking you know had a what do they call it a split where you just fucking yeah that's why i'm like did she really stay in the bathroom
Or did she help? Yeah. I mean, we'll never know. If anyone did this to me, I will tell you wholeheartedly, I would have probably done that and worse. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah. Yeah, for sure. They should have just burned the whole house down. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
Woodman C., who was among those gathered on the Blanchard's lawn, told police that she knew about Gypsy and her secret boyfriend. She showed them the printouts she had saved, which included his name. Based on that information, police asked Facebook to trace the IP address from which the post to Dee Dee's account had been made. It turned out to be in Wisconsin.
And the next day, police agencies in Waukesha County raided the Gojohn's Big Bend home. Gojohn and Gypsy surrendered and were taken into custody on charges of murder and felony armed criminal action. So it is hard to tell who posted that. Why was the neighbor saving all of this? Because she knew what was wrong. Yeah. I mean, it says it before. She probably was doing it to help Gypsy in case anything happened with DeeDee.
Because she said that he was a predator. And she thought that Gypsy was underage. Yeah. The news that Gypsy was safe was greeted with relief in Springfield, where she and Nicholas were soon...
and held a $1 million bond. But in announcing the news, Greene County Sheriff Jim warned things were not always what they appear. The media in Springfield soon reported the truth of the Blanchard's lives, that Gypsy had never been sick and had always been able to walk and her mother had made her pretend otherwise using physical abuse to control her.
After the disclosure of how Dee Dee had treated Gypsy, sympathy for her as the victim of a violent murder rapidly shifted to her daughter as a long-term victim of child abuse.
While the charge of first-degree murder can carry the death penalty under Missouri law or life without parole, County Prosecutor Dan Patterson announced he would not seek it for either Gypsy or Nicholas, calling the case "extraordinary and unusual." After her attorney obtained her medical records from Louisiana, he secured a plea bargain to second-degree murder for Gypsy.
Gypsy was so undernourished up to this point, during the year she was in the county jail, her lawyer told BuzzFeed that she had gained 14 pounds, in contrast to most of his clients who typically lose weight in that situation.
In July of 2016, she accepted the plea bargain and was sentenced to 10 years in prison. Nicholas still faced the more severe charge because prosecutors contended that he initiated the murder plot, and he and Gypsy agreed that he was the one who killed Dee Dee. He was also more severely prosecuted due to different personal circumstances. Nicholas was granted less sympathy and understanding due to a lack of involvement in the abuse.
Bro.
There had to have been some kind of evidence that proved the fact that he's the one that initiated this murder. If they're saying in court that that's how he was charged with this, that motherfucker convinced her to murder her mom. Yeah.
I don't know. I think maybe that or he took the rap for her because he figured they were going to be like in love and get through this. So she's like, I'm going to take immunity and fucking do a plea bargain and testify or snitch on you, allegedly. And you take the fall for this, but we're going to still be together. You know, like that's just me throwing ideas out there. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he dead ass convinced her.
I mean, there had to have been some type of records. I would love to see the court documents on this case of the fact that their conversations had to have been saved somewhere. Unless they did it over the phone. Because they were talking on Facebook. You know what I mean? You can easily get that. And she destroyed her smartphone, so they weren't texting. Yeah.
or anything like that like your conversations were being had on a computer so there has to be that really solid proof that this was his idea that he chose to like seek out this plan
In December 2017, the judge set Gojan's trial for November 2018. In their opening statement, prosecutors alleged that Gojan had deliberated for over a year before the crime, while his lawyers pointed to his autism and said that Gypsy had formulated the crime and their lovestruck client had just done as she had asked.
The next day, prosecutors showed jurors the text messages, sometimes sexually explicit, that Gypsy and Gojan shared in the week before the murder, often using various personas, as well as the knife he had used to commit the murder and some of the texts. He asked her for details about Dee Dee's room and sleeping habits. These were supplemented by video of his interview with police after his arrest where he had admitted to killing her. That makes me feel a little different. Yeah. Yeah.
Because, like, this, if his attorney is, like, really trying to make sure that they understood that this was Gypsy, and he just played out her fantasy, then there's a possibility this was her idea. I don't think we'll ever. Truly. No. So wish-wash. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Gypsy testified on the trial's third day. She said that while...
She had indeed suggested to Nicholas that he kill Dee Dee to end her mother's abuse. She also considered getting pregnant by him in hopes that once she was carrying Nicholas' child, Dee Dee would have to accept him.
Along with the knife that she gave to Nicholas, she stole baby clothes from Walmart during a shopping trip so she could go ahead and plan either. However, she said Nicholas never told her what he thought about the pregnancy plan. Just like her mom. Her mom was stealing too. Yeah. Bro. A lot of characteristics. So did she really end the cycle? I don't...
I don't know. Well, she's been in, you have to understand she's also been in prison too. So she's probably done a lot of self help stuff. She's not, she said she did get therapy while she was in prison. Not as much as she wanted, but you know, yeah, some, so may, I mean, only time will tell. I was going to say, we will only tell when she has a kid. Well,
Well, that or... They've discussed that so much, too. Yeah. Go ahead. No, you're good. I was going to say that or just as time goes on by her actions. Yeah. You'll see. It's very easy to get tripped up and, you know...
Things you say online. In a world of social media. And she is so involved in social media right now. After four days, the case was sent to the jury. Jurors had the option of finding Nicholas guilty of one of three murder charges. Involuntary manslaughter, second degree or first degree murder or not guilty of any of them.
After approximately two hours deliberation, they returned with a verdict and Nicholas was found guilty of first-degree murder and armed criminal action. In February 2019, he was sentenced to life in prison for the murder conviction, the only possible option since prosecutors had declined to seek the death penalty. Nicholas asked Judge
David Jones for leniency on the armed criminal action charge, which carries a minimum sentence of only three years, saying that he had fallen blindly in love with Gypsy. He received a sentence of 25 years on that charge, which is concurrent with the life sentence. Jones also denied a motion by Gojohn's lawyer, Duane Perry, for a new trial. Perry argued that the jury should not have been allowed to hear that Gojohn had considered raping Dee Dee on the night of the murder.
You were gonna do what? That wasn't their first time having sex though, right?
raping his dd oh fuck yeah he said i was thinking gypsy that she got murdered that's gross ew i mean so he's obviously got do you think that he's a few grapes short i feel like he would have done it after that's what i feel like yeah i feel like do you think he did oh he i feel like dd put up a would put up a fight if she was alive i mean she do i think she did huh do you think that he fondled or did something after he murdered her
Well, I mean, Gypsy wasn't in the room, so I don't think we're ever going to know. And he was really the BDSM. But he went and fucked her after. I feel like maybe he started and maybe stopped himself, and that's why he went to Gypsy. And that's why they ended up fucking in Gypsy's room. Did I just solve the case? That's gross, man. That's disgusting. Can you hate somebody that much, but you want to fuck them? Like, that's so weird. That's just... That's weird. Do a deep dive on his childhood. Yeah, that's really weird. Oh, Gypsy Rose. Man.
She did express, like we had talked about before, that she feels like I am more free in prison than living with my mom because now I'm allowed to just live a normal... I am allowed to just live like a normal woman. She says in 2018, Gypsy served her sentence in...
...in Missouri's Correctional Center and did not talk to the media until after she had made her plea. When she did, she told BuzzFeed reporter Michelle Dean that she had been able to research Munchausen syndrome by proxy, also known... Oh, I don't want to read that. ...facetious disorder imposed on another. On...
Leading her to ascend to the regular head shavings.
She always hoped that doctors would see through the ruse, and she was frustrated that none besides Lasternstein did. I feel like she probably wanted to tell the doctors every time, but we're talking about life at home would be hell if she did. That's why I said she was probably too scared. She also mentioned how often when they were in public that Dee Dee would just hold her hand.
Yeah, so like if she tried to say something, she would squeeze it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that just tells me she probably never left her side in public. When Dean asked her what made her want to escape her situation, Gypsy recalled the 2011 incident at the science fiction convention, which made her wonder why she was not allowed to have friends like others her age. While she said that Nicholas took their...
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
According to her family, Dean and Aaron Lee Carr, a documentarian, Gypsy also exhibits at times the same sociopathic, manipulative behaviors as her mother, who was for much of her life, her only role model. She is already psychologically really compromised.
And she's going to need as much family and underpinning and support as she can get, Friedman told Vulture after viewing Carr's documentary, Mommy Dead and Dearest, in which he appears. He also points out that the post-traumatic stress disorder is likely to be an issue in her continuing development. I hope they find someone wherever she chooses to settle who is willing to provide supportive psychotherapy. This podcast is brought to you by eHarmony, the daycare center for people with mental
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In June 27, 2022, she married Ryan Scott Anderson. I want to know how she met him online. Okay, I'll tell you. All right, I love this part. So Ryan had a bet with a friend at work that the friend at work was going to write another like popular inmate. And he said, well, if you write that person, I'll write Gypsy Rose. So he already knew her.
He was already fascinated with her prior. He had already done research about her. He was a teacher. Now he is a teacher, but he did prior to that work with children of special needs. So her case sparked interest within him because he was already working within the special needs. And then in turn...
He now is a teacher, but they developed a relationship after that. She was talking to other people. She has been previously engaged prior to him. Yes. She was previously engaged prior to Ryan and...
That didn't work out. And when she met Ryan, it took a little bit, but then they began talking a little more frequently and she really liked the way that they talked. And then after a little while, he went and met her and their relationship started from there. She said she liked him because he is from Louisiana. What? Yeah. This is weird. That's it? That's it. That's the only reason? Yeah. Well, I am good dick. We know that. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. I don't want to...
To each their own. Yeah. Makes me feel uncomfy. I didn't know that he's not that much older than her. He does appear to look older. I can't tell. Somebody said he looks like her mom. He does. Have you seen the side by side? There is very close similarities of him and her mom. Well, you got to understand that girl's been through some shit. She's not going to have normal. I'm a.
And this is not me being rude. I'm just saying, like, because of all the shit she's been through, I know she's used to always being with somebody because she was strapped to her mom for so long. But now that she has freedom and, like, you know, can move about the cabin as a free woman, I don't know if she's going to want to be locked down in a marriage. It was very surprising that she chose something like that so quickly. Yeah. And didn't even get to come out and experience real life and just...
Go be one of the girls. Without being... Yeah, without already being so locked down. Well, maybe she's just so used to being manipulated that he could have maybe done the same thing to her. So she's just like, that's all she knows, kind of. I feel like he doesn't talk a lot. So I think that's a good thing. I have. I watched him in part of the interview. It was very short. She seems very obsessed with him. Yeah. You know, I'm watching this mid-interview. She just reaches over and kisses on him and stuff. And she...
has found her new obsession and you know seeing how her mom was and her mom's obsession with things doesn't surprise me and even the psychologist saying like she does show similar behaviors as her mom who knows yeah i guess we'll just have to watch yeah yeah well i really enjoyed this deep dive you know whatever it is gypsy live your fucking life baby go go start an only fans fucking
fucking go wild. I'm ready. I was going to leave that as a comment under her thing, but I didn't want to get attacked. I was going to be like, Gypsy, we need the OF pronto. Let's go. She'll make so much money. She'll be like set for life. Yeah, she'd probably make $50 million. Yeah. Easily. Because people are obsessed with her right now. She can't even make one video on TikTok without getting like 50 million views. The likes on her first selfie that she posted, 6.5
I don't think anybody's ever got that many likes on a fucking... There's no way. Even like Kylie Jenner or any of them. I don't think any of them have gotten likes. And I don't know why. I always thought she was in jail for much longer than she...
She actually was, but I mean, she's been in there since 2016. Yeah. That's actually not that long. Yeah. That's only seven years. Yeah. That's kind of wild. Well, she got granted early. Yeah. Early. Right. But I mean, she, she went in when things were, I mean, would you miss COVID? Yeah. Yeah. Still, she did miss a lot though. I mean, yeah. From 2016 to 2020. But I mean, they have tablets and stuff in jail. I don't feel like she missed that much.
yeah they're very connected with the world it's not like it used to be where it's like literally i find tiktok lives of guys in prison love it those are my favorite lives i already know when it looks like someone's recording with a calculator i'm like they're in prison yeah yeah well i love you guys thanks for going down this wormhole with the deep yeah i loved it thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of dumb blonde i'll see you guys next week bye
