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Colt Ford: Country Rap’s OG

2023/9/6
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What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, I have the country rap king in the building, and I am so thrilled and so honored, Mr. Colt Ford. Thank you. It is my pleasure. It is my pleasure. I don't know if I'm the king, but I'm just... I'm glad to be here for sure, and it's cool to be doing this with you. I love how humble you are, but I mean, you...

started this shit you know I feel like I've been accused of that yeah yeah like and we're gonna get into that because today I think you deserve your flowers sir I appreciate that thank you very much for sure dude what have you been up to what are you doing how you doing you're on tour yeah just been working like crazy tons of shows just put out a new record uh not long ago with 24 songs on it uh and it's uh I think it's my ninth maybe my ninth album I never thought I'd get to make one you know I'm at like

Yeah.

And I'm just having fun. And then I got some other projects coming out myself. You know, Chris Calico that was with Tech N9ne. Love Chris. Shout out Chris. Shout out his wife. Oh, Crystal. She's awesome. Love them. We have a new project. We just put out the first single called Hoodbillies together. And it's just, it's super fun. It's, uh,

it's him and I doing something it was kind of a time and I think for both of us in our life where we needed we needed to hang out with each other like that he's such a good energy he does he's so positive but he had gotten really down with an autoimmune disease which I've been dealing with one that I got diagnosed with a year and a half ago that's really did a number on me but luckily like this is the first real interview I've done without my glasses on because I actually expected you to show up with

Yeah, my vision has been so bad, but I got some new medicine that's really helping me. So God is good and I'm feeling good with that. And just having a bunch of fun. I'm as excited as I've ever been about music and just playing and

You know, it's just, it's great to still be out there on the road chasing these young boys around. Yeah, it's crazy. I think your work ethic and your drive is insane. Like, it reminds me of myself, kind of. Like, we just, it doesn't matter. Yeah, you're always hustling. And I think that's one thing that connected you and I and maybe me and Jay together as well is, like, the hustle. Like, I don't mind...

what anybody does, long as you're hustling, like I just, I appreciate that work ethic, no matter what it is. I like people to hustle and, and go after what they want and don't let anybody tell them that they can't do it. Or I wouldn't be sitting here. Cause everybody told me, they're like, you're out of your mind. I meant you're 30 at the time, like 35, 36 years old. You've already done something that I've been like, how can you,

do this. You're 330 pounds with a cowboy hat on. I'm like, even though I'm really good looking, I just, you know, I was like, I don't know. I didn't know what would happen, but I just was so hard headed that I was like, I don't know the music off a ride through the country. I started letting people hear it and people were like, I don't know what this is, but I love it. So,

You know, here we are all these years later. No, it's crazy. So let's take it all the way back. Let's take it back to you were born in Georgia, correct? Let's take it all the way back. Like when you were a kid, was music your outlet or? I guess music was kind of, you know, people ask me like, when did you get into music? And I say, never. Music got into me.

It was something that's always been, and nobody in my family played music. My mom or dad, I just, same with Jay. Yeah. So I was just different. I mean, I, I mean, I was just that different kid that, you know, could kind of walk on and, and, and Jay, we have a lot of similarities in a lot of ways. We were both able to kind of walk on either side of the fence and go from, you know, we could go from the country to the hood, to the city. Like we, we've been lucky to have that,

And I think it's interesting that's what it's done to our music as well. That's kind of created who we are as artists, that we move in different ways. And I just never could cut it off. You know, you're a product kind of of your environment. My dad and mom and dad were, you know, my dad was from Hartwell, Georgia. My mom's from Anderson, South Carolina. Neither one of them had nothing, didn't have indoor plumbing until they were 18 years old, you know, so...

they grew up poor and country. And so I liked a lot of country stuff. My folks listened to, and my folks were big Elvis fans. So I'm a huge Elvis fan. And that's always why I dance. I mean, like I've always been, I've always danced even now, but I'm at 54. I'm up there. Like I can't be still on stage. I have to dance and do all that kind of stuff. So I,

That was a big thing for me. But then all of a sudden I heard like Sugar Hill Gang and I heard Run DMC and I was like, oh shit, what is this? And I actually, I made a record, kind of a rap record in 1983. Wow. So before I'd ever, I'd never even seen another white kid rap. This was pre-Beastie Boys. Like I'd never even. Wow. Do you have it still?

I have no idea where that is. That's a good question. I wish I did. My mom saves everything. So she probably got it. You should break that out. I'm sorry. I'm getting attacked. She's probably got it somewhere. I mean, it's the bees getting after you cause you're so sweet. Yes. Something's happening. It just keeps coming towards me. It was crazy. Like I, I didn't know any better and my parents never stopped me and said, Hey, you can't do that and you can't do that. So,

Growing up where I did, I was definitely an odd kid. I mean, I was a really good athlete and I played a lot of sports and my dad coached baseball and

I was good enough to have college scholarships in a couple different sports. Wait, let's not graze over that. I hadn't gotten there yet, but yeah, I was a college All-American in golf and then played professionally for the first half of my life, but I never could cut music off. It never went away from me. It was like in your soul. Yeah, it just never went away. I was always still writing. I was always still working, and I was trying to do both.

for a while, but they don't go together. Like the golf time to play golf is you're getting up at 4.30, 5 o'clock in the morning. Well, that's when I go to bed. Right. That's when you're just now leaving the studio. They don't really work together. And, you know, I talk to my friends that play on the PGA Tour. I talk to them a lot of times when I'm getting ready to go to bed and they're getting up to go to work. Right. It's an interesting dynamic, but it all...

You know, I did a lot of, Jermaine Dupri and I worked together a lot. Yeah. The first Criss Cross record, we did all. So let's take it back, though, because you're grazing over this. Because I don't think a lot of people know this about you, especially my fan base, I don't think would know this. Just because you're really popular on TikTok for doing the song with Kevin Gates. Right. And like a couple other songs, and we'll get to that, too. But you were a professional golfer. That's true. I mean, most people just automatically think male model when they see me. Yeah.

Right. And so, no, it's just, it's, it's weird, my path. And when I talk about it, I realized that it's kind of strange. No, it's crazy. But it doesn't feel strange to me. But it's awesome. Because my parents never, they never told me like, you can't do that. You can't. And they were like, I don't know. I meant,

this white kid, my son, 13 year olds. And he raps. I don't know. They'd never seen anything like it before. I just was into it. I couldn't, I just did anybody else in your family golf? Yeah. Yeah. My dad, my dad was a good player when he was younger. And then I just, you know, it just happened. And, uh,

And it's just a great game. And it's been good to me for a lot of years. It's been fun to do the celebrity stuff as I came along in music. So you did a record in 83. How old were you in 83? I was three. Let's see. I was about 12 or 13. I was 69. So you were...

I was a freshman in high school. Okay, so you were doing music in school. Yeah, I was trying to. I could never make music go away. I was always trying to do music with my friends. A lot of times you chase different things. If you look at where Jay started

musically to where he is now, you'd go, I didn't see, you didn't see that coming. I wonder why people, cause you have been able to flop genres so much as flop a good word. I don't know. Just crisscross works for me. Yeah. Just flop over to, you know, different genres.

And nobody has ever came at you, I don't think, as hard as they did my husband. They have called my husband a sellout. They have said so much shit. And I feel like it was so accepting of you to do it. But then when Jay does it, it's like it's a whole other thing. And by the same token, there's been a lot of things on my side that I had. But Jay's gotten radio play, and I've never gotten any. I've never had a song in the top 40. What about Dirt Road? Not for me. They played it for Jason. Oh.

But I've never had, I've sold right at a little over 5 million records. But I've never had a song in the top 40. Never. Wow. And I think. Do you think that's because you've always stayed independent? That could have something to do. I've tried to think of every kind of reason. Yeah. Obviously when I first came out.

There was nobody really quite like what I was doing. And to me, you know, Charlie Daniels, God bless his soul, was so good to me. Like he felt like early on, like he said, I think you're just picking up where I left off. I meant, so he was so sweet to me. What a blessing. Oh my God, the guy was just the greatest. But I wasn't trying to,

They give me credit for starting this new sub genre. That was never my intention. So what was your first single that you dropped? Let's go there because I need to dissect this. We're going back to MySpace now. Okay. So MySpace. Because I had never heard of country rap until Colt Ford. And I never, and I, again, like I said, I never intended to go, look, I started this. I just was trying to make the best music I could make. Yeah. And I, for me. I appreciate the humbleness. And it's the same though, like with Jay though, from the same point of like, he was all, he rapped.

But he's singing that, and that's what people's like, I was always afraid to sing. Right. And I ain't no great singer by any stretch of the imagination, but I've discovered...

the way I sing that makes sense depending on the song that I'm saying, you know, the right songs. Yeah. And so we got to feel it, but I never, I never got, you know, I was out here trying to fight with the radio and everybody in town was like, we love it. We don't know what to do with it, but we're, they were kind of scared of me. So that's kind of like how they were with Jay at first. Whenever he first started to cross over, they were like, we really love you. We just don't know where to put you. And that was kind of the thing I meant. So for me, I think I was, I was probably about 10 years ahead of

Yeah. Versus where everybody's mindset is now and everything. And I would go and I would visit radio. I'd do everything they, you know, I'd give them everything they asked me. You know, I am a nice dude. That's just who I am. I like to see people win. I love to help people. I love to share.

shake the fans hands and tell them thank you without them you know none of us would be able to do what we do absolutely but radio would be like they would play it a little bit but they just like well I don't know and then you know Jason Aldean records Dirt Road Anthem it's almost a it's almost a diamond single I mean like clearly it works did you write that song yeah I mean Brantley and I wrote that okay so Brantley and I wrote that together shout out Brantley we

We love that link. Oh my God, that's my brother. Sweetest man ever. I talked to him yesterday. He's a talker. Yeah, we get off late night sometimes and get into some deep conversations. Because we kind of came up together. And we were trying to figure it out. And we sat down and wrote Dirt Road Anthem in probably 30 minutes. Wow. We didn't have any idea. We were just right. I was picking him up to go write with another friend of ours.

And he was only had his motorcycle then, and it was freezing cold. And he was like, well, check this out. And we start and we wrote dirt road anthem. I was like, this is cool. I don't know if anybody give a shit about this, but we liked it. We were just writing about what we liked. We didn't have any idea. And then turns out to be, you know, one of the biggest songs in the last 30, 40 years. I meant, so I feel like radio play and I talk about this all the time. This is nothing new and it's not me shading the industry, but radio play is so political. Yeah.

It is. And again, also then we were an independent record label. So that's a very different thing in Nashville because almost every independent at least has some affiliation with a major, whether it be distribution or something. And we have none. We have had none. We've never had any. We've manufactured ourself. We've done all that ourself, which has been...

super cool and very rewarding. But at the same time, it's been a little, I think it's maybe held me back in some things. And honestly, I've had an amazing career. I'm still playing music. I'm still making a living do it. Uh, but at the same time, there's a lot of things that kept me from, they would go, well, you're not on the radio. So we can, and I'm like, well,

And I think that's what I get on there. If you don't give me, you know, they just would never give me a chance. And I think that's what they dangle in front of artists is okay. Well, if you sign with this record label, you can get radio play. And it's like, people think of it as like selling out, but really it's like in order to get to the next level, you have to play the game. And I think there's, you know, varying degrees of what, what are you willing to do to get to where, you know, what do you, what do you want out of it? What do you want to do with it? And like,

how could you not, you know, if you, if you love what you're doing, you'd love, I'd love to play it on the biggest platform. I'd love to play the stadiums and, and all that kind of stuff. That's, I love it. That's why I love playing. That's why I still play.

that about to be 54, I still play a hundred plus shows a year because I frigging love the fans. And I love playing. All the stuff goes away for me when I hit the stage, like the, whether sick, what I, I mean, I've played throwing up in between songs. I've played with kidney stones. I mean, like, yeah, I don't wish that on people. I don't like, but, uh,

It's just been it's been a wild ride from where it started. Let's go back to MySpace. So around MySpace is when you started dropping music. Yeah. And I think that's kind of like I was on MySpace too. Shout out Doll Parts. That was me. And I think that's kind of where I started getting in touch with all different sorts of music and all that stuff. And that is where I've just where I discovered you because I've

I was on the West Coast. Right. So we had never heard of country rap. Exactly. Didn't know anything about it. And then, you know, there's you. It was crazy. It was wild. I meant to, it was kind of uncharted territory. Yeah. And I didn't know, I just knew that people that, I just knew that people that, friends of mine or people I'd met that thought, that had the same kind of ideas that I do, I'd play it for them and they're like, shit, we like this. Yeah. I meant, you know, and that's where Ride Through the Country came from. Yeah.

Is that your first album? Yeah, that was the first record. And Shannon and I had pretty much did most of that record in Atlanta. I have notes here that I'm looking at. So don't think I'm like... We did most of that record in Atlanta because we didn't know anything about Nashville. We didn't know how it worked. And then we started coming up here and meeting with people and...

Then the very first song I wrote in Nashville was with Jamie Johnson and Jeremy Popoff. And we went to the studio the next day to cut it. And I'm like, well, how are we cutting the song? Like I admit, like all we have is a guitar vocal. I'm like, and I'm watching these session players write it down. And Shannon and I are going, what the hell are they writing down? Like, I don't even know what this chart is. I don't know what any of this stuff is. And then we go in there and they, they go one, two, three. And the music starts. I'm like, how did that come from?

what we did and we kind of went okay we need to kind of re-record the record so we went in and made a bunch of changes and right through the country came out and no trash in my trailer and you know dirt road anthem was on that record and it just started going crazy like on my space snowball yeah and i started brantley and i were both trying to figure it out we had really only played some shows in georgia and you know around there and we thought that's pretty damn cool to do that but then all of a sudden i started

going out and venturing out some other places and I'm going man I just came from the west coast and there's people out there that sing that shit like they know the words it was crazy yeah Dirt Road was huge yeah I mean like she's from the west coast too it just went bonkers like I you know we did we didn't know I mean we were trying to make this record and we we started Average Joe's Entertainment and thought well the worst case scenario we have a couple of years to see if it's kind of like Bill

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. It's like, we'll go see if we can make this work. And here we are years later with a huge successful film company and publishing company and record label and still, you know, still chasing it and trying to bring up some young kids and help them along. So when did you start Average Joe's? We started like the end of,

beginning of 2007. - Okay. - 'Cause Shannon and I, Shannon had sold 40 million records as a producer. I mean, he'd worked with Jermaine, he worked with Usher and TLC and all these people. But it was all Atlanta hip hop, R&B stuff. So we were like, well, we know everybody in the industry. So we went out to LA and we go to Warner Brothers and we sit down, there's like pop office, rap office, rock office. Where's country office?

Oh, that's Nashville. Can you introduce us? Nope. Don't know who that is. Like it was so disconnected. We were like, Oh shit, this might be harder than we thought. Cause we thought we would be able to walk in here and they'd go, Oh, well here's Jim and you guys. And they were like, yeah, we don't know who's, we don't know anything about Nashville. It was like its own little Island thing.

So Shannon and I literally just started getting in the car and coming to Nashville. We didn't know anybody here. We just started getting in the car and coming to Nashville and spending three or four days and going to 10 roof and picking up game. Yeah. And, and, you know, and just trying to figure it out and meet people and grip and grin and

And now we're pretty much entrenched in Nashville. So that is what made you want to start Average Joe's? Well, no. I mean, it was just like when I started doing this music, kind of the first part, I started doing it and it was like, well,

We started playing it for some people and they're like, this is really cool. Have no idea what to do with this. We don't know where to take it. And especially at that time, it's like, there's only one way. You put out a single country radio, the major labels and they take you and you do the dance and country radio and then you work it up. That was the only way. Which that is the most outdated system I've ever seen. It's not a good business model anymore. It's crazy. And it was just, like I said, it was crazy.

it was the only option we had. Right. And which is cool. Cause you look at Jay's situation now, like he was able to get that popping on the internet and online and people just, and they, and then the masses were like, you have no choice. Like we want this. And for me, it was like, there wasn't that outlet to get it out there to get me. I mean, you know, you had again, my space, but it didn't really have the impact. It wasn't, didn't have that pop. The like TikTok. Yeah. It didn't have that pop that TikTok Instagram have. So it was a,

It was just a different road, different road to hoe, I guess. But it's been fun. It's been, you know, it's been frustrating at times because you see and you go, why can't I, why didn't I get the chance? You know, why couldn't I do that? Do you ever feel like that? Do you ever feel like,

These people that you have helped is kind of like a stepping stone. Do you ever feel like they've kind of like left you behind even when they've gotten a little bit more notoriety than you have? Not really, because I have never done anything with the intention of making sure you give me something back. But what's right is right, you know? There is that, and there's some truth to that, and there's some people that I think...

could help a little bit more, but I meant a lot of them don't have the stones to do that or to buck the system, so to speak and go, I don't give a shit what you want. I meant, I'm, I'm down with Colton. I want you to help. I meant, and so it,

there's times when I get frustrated with it because I'm like, man, I've done a lot and I feel like, but I've never got, I've never been on any award show. I've never, I've never gotten to do any, I've never done any of that. Which they're not all they're cracked up to. No, and I get that too. Just so you know. Like I said, I mean, it's easy. They're really hot and it's like a freaking

Big warehouse. I mean, I've gone to them a bunch, but I just have never gotten to really play on them. I've never gotten to do anything. That's like a dream of an artist is to get to play at a show. Give me the mic. I'm pretty good with just the mic. It'll be funny if you let me host it. Yeah. You let me and Jelly host it. It'll be funny as shit, I guarantee you. Oh, dude, that would be hilarious. But, you know, I don't know. There's times when, you know, and sometimes you get alone and you go, man...

I deserve to get that or to get it. At least give me a chance. Yeah. Because for me, it was always where we're not sure if you're country. And I'm like, have you ever been to my show? My fans are the country of the country. And then it was like, well, I feel like you represent the right trash country. Just, I mean, I'm like, I don't know.

It was always like, we're scared. What if one person, like I was in a station, like my dad's really never heard me on the radio and he's 87. He's not in great shape. That makes me sad to go, you know, with all I've done to go, man, he's never really got, my hometown radio station doesn't, never played me. Oh my gosh. And so it was like, that's frustrating sometimes. And I think at this point,

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I think they thought I was a fad or it was something that just kind of caught a little niche and it'd go away. You've been around for how long now? Now we're talking 15 plus years and multiple platinum and gold records. And now it's like, well, if they play me now, then they have to go, we were wrong. You know what I mean? So there may be some of that, but honestly, I don't know. It's beyond my control. I mean, you know, somebody told me it's not my, none of my business what other people think about me. I mean, I just try to do my thing. I try to do right.

I'm good to folks. I play hard as I can. When you let me on that stage, I play hard as I can. I love your spirit. It's just the only way I know to do it. And I love helping these younger artists. And I love, you know, I've never charged anybody for features or nothing. Like I jump on songs and play with people because it's... I mean, you're with everybody. Let me look at this list I have written out for you. You have done... It's fun. I've been lucky that a lot of them have said yes too. Yeah. I mean, who... What country artist gets a song with Kevin Gates? Like...

and it's actually a good song. It's a great song. Hardy wrote that song. Did he? Oh, we love Hardy. I mean, yeah, that kid's brilliant. He's freaking brilliant. He is so good. His wife, Callie, too. I mean, uh,

But yeah, I, you know, there's a lot of those, like, I love what Morgan and Hardy and Ernest are doing. I mean, I think they're, I mean, and I love that they're sticking together. Yeah. I appreciate that. We love Ernest. I mean, you start talking about rap, like Ernest is,

Oh, I know. About as dope as anybody I've ever heard. So a lot of you guys don't know this, but oh my God, I'm still getting attacked by this damn fly. A lot of you guys don't know this, but Ernest actually was a rapper. Yeah, he was. Back in the day. That's how him and Jay met each other too. Right.

I knew they'd go way back. Yeah, like when I first, when I met him and started, I was like, holy shit, this dude is crazy good. I would love to hear Ernest rap now. Oh, he's still super dope. I got to get him on the podcast and get him to rap. We did that song, She Gonna Do It, that I did with Angie Kay. I mean, he was right on that. He's phenomenal. Yeah, he's great. He was right around Son of a Sinner too. I'm just still trying to chase it, you know, and there's still part of me that I can't cut it off. I'm still that little kid that,

just a huge dreamer and i still think you know what maybe after all these years maybe this song will be the one that breaks through or they'll play it radio and radio you guys need to play some cold for it maybe they will maybe they won't i mean it's okay i mean i'm gonna keep making music i would think as much as you have been in the industry and have the connections now somebody would be willing to just give you a chance on the radio it's been interesting like i said i'd get some people that would play a song and

you know, and play, play the heck out of it. And then I could never get it to reach critical mass though, you know, cause to get that spot up at the top, you gotta play, you gotta have everybody playing it, not just a few stations. And it was always kind of that with me, you know, but again, I mean, it,

there's times like I said there's times when you sit there alone sometimes you'd be lying if you weren't human to go man I had I never really have got the same opportunity as some people or I hadn't really got the flowers that maybe you think you deserve but at the same time I meant you get what you get you don't throw a fit ain't that what I tell my that's what I tell my kids yeah we got his baby girl here in the studio and uh yeah you know I'm just I'm still just tickled to be able to play music for a living I'm still creative I still love making music I'm at

You know, there's still some people I want to work with. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. I was going to say, I don't think that you could stop. You're like a rolling stone. So it's like if you – I don't know how to quit. I don't really know how to – I don't know how to lose. I don't know how to stop. I just keep going. I just –

I love making it. And there's still people that come see me and we sell a bunch of tickets. And there's still people I definitely, you know, like I hope me and Jay have talked about doing a record together. Jay loves you. My husband loves you. He's been super great and he's super humble. And I couldn't be, you know, people, there's so many people ask me, are you jealous? And I'm like, no, that's my friend. Why am I going to be jealous of my friend? Like I've never...

I've never understood that. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to be that person. Like I'm happy for him and we're friends. So I look at it, if he wins, then maybe we write a song together and that wins because of that, you know what I mean? Not sitting there going, how come he got to do that? And I didn't get like, I don't see, I don't, I don't see things that way. I just love working and I'm going to keep trying to do it and.

If you could work with anybody, cause you've worked with so many people. Like, I don't know if there's any person you haven't worked with. Not really. I mean, who would you want to work with? I've been so lucky that these artists have taken time. I meant like to work with me. They,

They didn't have to do that. They believed in me. They liked me. They liked the music. Nobody I've worked with that I didn't have a relationship with either. I don't like, I didn't like the whole manager set it up with something like, I like it to be real. Yeah. It's very impersonal. Yeah. I just can't, I can't do business that way. Yeah. Like I wanted, like, yeah, I didn't want somebody to set it up and go, how are you going to get down? Like, I want to have Bunny's phone number. She has my phone number. People ask. I was like, yeah, we text. I mean, but like,

Yeah. It's just that to me, it's always been relationship based. Yeah, absolutely. To me, life is relationship based. So, uh, I just, uh,

I just keep doing it. But there's again, yeah. Like I'd love, I meant me and Hardy have talked about doing something. I mean, me and Jay have talked about doing a lot of people I'd still love to work with, but I've always said is what is like your Holy grail of being able to work with somebody who would it be like Garth Brooks or somebody? I mean, that'd be pretty cool. I don't know what, I don't know. They seem to be mad at Garth right now. So I don't know what's going on.

- Why is the world not mad at anybody? - I don't know, yeah, I mean it's, I don't know. - How do you feel about the Jason Aldean situation that's going on right now?

If you grew up anywhere near a small town, like, I don't understand what people are talking about. Like, that is the mentality in the small towns. Like, it's all for one and one for all. It don't matter, black, white, whatever side. I mean, you go to small towns and you see high school football or something like that in these small... I mean, like, that's a big deal. Yeah. Like, and everybody, for everybody. Absolutely. And they'll fight everybody from every town around there. I mean, so...

Again, and I don't know the history of the video and this and that. I'm like, there's bad shit that's happened everywhere. So I also know they're mad at Miranda Lambert right now, too.

again, yeah, I just, everybody's mad at everybody. It doesn't matter. It's, it's the dangest thing I've ever seen. I just, we're damned if we do. Yeah. There's just no way. So you just, I think you just keep playing music and you got as long as you can look yourself in the mirror and feel like, yeah, I did the right thing. I didn't, I meant like, I don't know how you come out and say this and that. And I,

I just, it's beyond me. You can't make everybody happy. You'll, you'll be miserable if you try to do that. I'm sure. I've given up. I've tried a lot to do that. I tell everybody to go fuck themselves. Yeah. That is my specialty now. Have a nice day. Yeah. I mean that. Fuck you very much. In a good Christian way. Yeah. In the sweetest way possible. I mean, that's, I kind of, and I'm, I was very, I used to take some of that stuff very personally, you know, I mean, it,

took me to heart and I would see people when the first record came out and hope before it dies in a plane crash. I'm like, Oh my God, I don't know you. I've never met you. Like, I read some wild shit. I mean, obviously you've, I mean, I'm sure you've seen it. I had to tell my mom. I'm like, mom, stop looking at this stuff. It'll drive you crazy. Cause everybody has an opinion. Everybody has something to say. And half of them are not good. It's, it's again, people, it's like people critiquing song, right? I'm like, if you want to sit me down with,

Rhett and Dallas and, you know, people like that that have written, Jeffrey Steele that have written multiple number ones and they critique my songwriting, I would love to listen to that. But when it's somebody that's blogging, lives in their mom's basement, eats boogers and thinks wrestling's real, I'm like, what am I supposed to do with that? I mean, I'm just like, whatever, man. Whatever.

whatever i mean go write a song yeah exactly go write a song and see how far it gets yeah i meant i mean i remember standing there with bobby with kid rock one night and somebody walked up and they're like all you did was take werewolves of london sweet home alabama and put it together and he's like well shit you should have done it it made me a bunch of fucking money yeah then you know go do it go bob go yeah i mean it's like do your thing yeah you know it's uh

I'm just excited that there's music out there. I'm excited that I can still be doing what I'm doing and, you know, to watch Jelly have all the success and selling out these, I mean, like really connecting with something in music that's been missing, this change that's making a difference in people's life. Yeah. When I get to that kind of stuff, that's when I really, you know, I mean, I've had multiple things with kids and make a wish and a,

dying kids and they're going you you want to meet me like this is what you want to do like like it's hard to and so many soldiers i've done a lot of stuff with and and to see that and you know it's like that's that's incredibly humbling to me i mean and to go man you care about something i did made a difference in your life and i have a parent at a meet and greet go our son died last year in a in a four-wheeler crash and we played your music at his funeral

it's hard to figure out how to respond to that. Like that is unbelievably humbling that you're a part of, and they say they play the music because it makes them feel like he's still, he's still with them. And I'm going, so I've been a part of their happiest time in their life and their saddest time in their life. And the music still means something. So, um,

radio singles or not i'm winning right i'm winning if i if i'm making a song that people you get that response they you know they they ron martin and i who's a new artist that's really streaming like seven million a week right now and he's never he's never even been on the radio like never done anything and we we wrote a song called help and uh it's really about mental health and it's about

And he's dealt with some issues just like I've done. I'm not, I'm he, but he's younger than me and it was troubling for him. Like he didn't really want to talk about it. I was like, we have to do like, because people can relate. It'll save somebody's life. Like, do you realize the power? What, you know, what kind of power that is? I talk about my podcast all the time. I mean, and I think that's what happened with Chris and I, how we really linked up together. Like we both had a time in our life where we were kind of struggling and

with autoimmune disease. And yeah, let's talk about the autoimmune disease. So take us on this journey. It's called, um, what I got diagnosed called myasthenia gravis and it affects the muscles in your face. It can destroy your vote vocals. It can destroy your throat. Oh my goodness. And, and it, it messed with your vision. Like I could see you out of either eye, but then when I looked at you together, I'd see three of you melting like a lava lamp. It was like tripping on ass or something like it was crazy. And, and,

I finally got this intravenous drug, this IV drug that I did four treatments of it. And it's like, it just tripped the breaker or something. And so that's working. I'm back seeing again. It's fun to be able to go. I hadn't been able to see y'all. I can see y'all now. I'll be able to take my glasses off. And so, yeah, that's good. But I think with Chris and I, same thing. Like we men have got to step up and be men more.

You know what I mean? And don't be afraid. We've been raised in that, you know, you be tough and something up, whatever. And it's like, no, it's okay for you to be vulnerable. It's okay to tell you some shit is bothering me. Yeah. And I need to talk to my brother or something. You know, I meant like...

it you know me and Brent when Brantley and I talk on the phone every day when we hang out I just love you brother I mean like you got to be able to say that and I think I think men got to stand up and be like man it's okay if you're hurting bro I'll I'm there for you and you know we all need that I mean men women just in general just to be honest and go hey maybe I need a little help and absolutely and so I'm still enjoying being able to do that still growing and learning and uh

I found my person. I'm getting married again this year. He said, I'm getting married again? You sound like me. I did it for it, and it was great. 25 years, and it was way more good than bad. Who is she? Her name is Megan. Hey, Megan. And she is just...

she's she's just an absolute rock star she kind of saved my life i love that sometimes it takes a good woman to come and lift you up when you're down there ain't no question about that i mean i watched my mama she's about to be 80 and she still handles things like a g at my house dad's house and it's uh yeah so it it's been phenomenal to to have that and to and to find that person uh

that, you know, sometimes you weren't sure maybe you'd ever find. I mean, and again, there's people that look at it, same with me, just like they look at you and they're like, how did y'all, it doesn't matter how y'all figured out. It's how we, it's how we do. It's how souls connect. Yeah, it's how people connect. It's how they react and how they treat one another. And, you know, people are so caught up in the way this looks or the way that looks. It's like,

deal with it every day several years ago it's funny so they used to when country weekly used to be out they did the top they did the top 10 sexiest men in country music yeah so they wrote 49 they had 49 people that were in there and they were and they allowed one write-in ballot so i got the write-in ballot and so and then it goes to fan voted right and i finished ninth yeah and uh

Jason Aldean finished like eighth or seventh and I beat George Strait. And E.B. McFarlane, who was my publicist at the time, was like,

I know y'all are looking at Colton going, Hey, he's big and he's 300. But like sexy has nothing to do with like, it's the way. Physical. It's how you carry yourself. Go talk to him for a little while as a woman and see if you don't feel like he makes you, it's the way somebody makes you feel. And I, so that, that was, that was one highlight. I only, Jason only beat me by one and George didn't beat me and he's never spoke to me since. So maybe that made him mad. I don't know. But,

That is hilarious. I'm just loving still making music and I love to see what you're doing. I love all the success and

how y'all hustle together and you hustle separately and together. And like, I love that. I appreciate that so much. If you could give somebody any advice that's going through an autoimmune thing, because I know you kind of glossed over it a little bit, but that was a really tough time in your life. I'm not gonna lie. It took me, it took me down and it took me to the point where I took guns away from myself. Like it's,

It really had me down. I mean, it had me down. How long did you go through it? For about six months where I was like, I was just...

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I was just, I don't know. I was just, I was existing. Hmm.

because everything that I'd been able to do and that I loved all of a sudden just went away. Like I was still playing shows. I would put my glasses on, close one eye. People would go, oh, Colt was great. He was drunk. I'm like, I don't even drink. But I couldn't see. So my balance was terrible. My depth perception was terrible. I had to make sure they taped up the stage. What a fucking soldier though to be going through this and still wanting to go out and just make people happy. I'm like, yeah, I can't stop playing music because of this. What am I going to do? Sit at home? Like that ain't going to make me happy either. So,

I just wanted to work. So I played a hundred plus shows like that, but it was insane. The doctor's like, you need tons of rest and no stress. And I'm like, well, that's just freaking great. 21 day tour. Let's go. Yeah. So I, you know, I just kind of, I just fought through it, but it was tough. No lie, man. Like I had, I leaned on some friends at times when I called them up and be like, dude, I'm like, I'm

I'm not doing good. Like I, because I, again, what I love to do on the road was play golf. That was my escape from being on the road. I'd go play golf. All of a sudden can't do that. Cause I can't see. And then I hunting and all the other stuff like that. Me and Brantley that I love to do. Can't do that. Can't see. And it was dangerous driving. And then it was just like, he, the doctor was like, Oh, by the way, heat really affects it too. I'm like, awesome. So, you know, when I'm playing this festival and it's 97 degrees outside, like,

I think last July we had 20 shows. I averaged 17 hours a day sleeping. Wow. It was all I could do. I mean, I would sleep, wake up four o'clock, eat a couple bites of sandwich, go back to bed, wake up 30 minutes before the show, somehow run up on stage, play the show, and I'd be asleep before they loaded the truck. I mean, like I just, and I just, but again, Megan knew I was in a tough place and she loved me through it. She encouraged me when I, uh,

I don't want to be a pussy and cry on your show. I get emotional. I'm an emotional dude. No, that's good though. But like, love me through that and love me to keep going, you know, hanging there, come on. Yeah. Keep fighting and

got some medicine in the last couple of months that has really made a difference. So I'm back where I can see, I can play golf again. So things are good. You only, you went through that because there was just a blessing in the lesson and you know, you have such a great attitude about everything else that maybe we don't know what the reason was. Good, bad shit happens to good people all the time, but you're here to tell your story and

This story is going to touch so many people. And I want it to. And again, if I can leave that, I mean, it ain't about music. I'll come and go, you know, Toby Keith comes and go. We all, all of us as artists come and go. The music lives on. The music is what it is. And it's the fans like,

that you made a difference in people's life. You shook a hand when, you know, when they're sitting there or... I'm like, it doesn't make a shit to me. You catch me at Waffle House, I eat a patty melt and have mustard on my face. I'll take a picture with you. Like, it's the fact that we wouldn't be here without that. Absolutely. That's how my husband is. He will...

literally 200 people will line up at an arcade and he'll take a picture with every person. That's me. I mean, I've gotten in trouble. I've gotten, you know, my tour manager's yelling at me for time to go. And that's the only time I ever get to invoke like, by the way, I run this shit. We'll go when I say so. Yeah. I bet the bus ain't leaving till I'm on it. But for me, if there's 500 people there, then that's, then there's 500 people I got to take a picture with. Yeah.

And I wish, that's one thing I try to impart and tell these younger artists, like some of them that, you know, Tyler Farr grew up playing guitar. Tyler played guitar for me and was on tour with me. And to see some of these guys that come up and do well, and George Burge is doing really good right now. And he's like, the people at radio go,

And boy, you trained him up right. I'm like, I didn't train him. I just tell him, be humble, be kind, be thankful. This ain't no damn... Without them, there's no us. You don't just get to go do this shit. There's a lot of work in it. And on the stage, people see that and they go...

Oh yeah. I mean, that's great. And it is, but you know, because you're out here doing it, there's a lot that goes into getting on that stage. It's insane. And there's a lot of tireless and no sleep and getting up to do an interview when you might not feel like it. Or sometimes y'all might be arguing and I don't want to be a nice guy today, but yeah,

this fan right here or this little girl or this little kid, they don't know that. Your job is to make people feel good. They want to see smiling jelly. They want to see happy Colt Ford. Yep. And so you got to be able to do that and not forget that like,

this, these people are what allow us to do what we do. I mean, I've dug a ditch. I don't want to do that shit. I've done other stuff. Me too. We won't talk about it because there's little ears here. I'm like, this is great. We do. And to have this, to be able to make some music that means something to somebody. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big deal. I'm just,

Happy to still be doing it. I love it. I love your attitude about everything. So you and Chris are dropping a single or is it an album? Singles. We did it. It started out. We were just going to make a record together. Right. And we'd never even met before. We knew obviously who each other was, but we'd never met. And we met. And then it was just like, dude,

there was just this kind of kindred. Yeah. You guys both have the same sweetness. Kindred brother thing. And it was one of those times when we talked together, it was like, we both kind of needed this. Yeah. So I was able to encourage him with what he was doing. And then he was, he's been able to encourage me. And so we leaned on each other and one song is like, well, let's make, let's make one more song and see what that's. And then it's like, well, let's make an EP. Yeah.

And so the first single, Badass American, has been out for about a month. And now we're about to drop a new one called Hits Different. We're even calling it Smile Music. Because it's just, it's not misogynistic towards women. It's just two grown-ass men from two different places making cool music that sounds cool. Feel-good music. The kids can listen to it. Adults can listen to it. It's still got swag and it's super fun. Yeah.

I'm just going to keep on making music till they... So somebody tells me I can't. When does the whole EP drop? Is the whole EP out? I think the EP's going to drop here. We got this single's coming out. It hits different. Then we have one called Big... On the 28th, right? Yeah. And then we have Big Yeah. This is the next single. We've already shot three videos. And then we got three more coming after that. And I think the EP will probably come out probably end of the year here. Okay. In the fall sometime. Just so people have it to look forward to. If not, there's nine other albums. It must be the country just came out. It's a lot of fun. So, shoot. I'm just...

I'm just making music. If you wanted anybody to go and download an album, what is your favorite album that you've made? If somebody was like, Hey, I want to go find out who Colt Ford is. I'd say the easiest thing to do would be start with ride through the country. I mean like ride through the country is the best. It's kind of black and white. Like this is who I am. Right. And,

Every, every, there's a writer and a producer in town that's produced most of my records, a guy named Noah Gordon, this unbelievable talent. And when I first started writing with him, he had already had tons of cuts. He said, your first record needs to be black and white. Like this is who I am. And then the second record is black and white and you add a little red to it. And then the next record is black, white, red. And you add a little, so you keep adding a little color. And that's kind of what I've done. And I've been lucky that the fans have,

followed with me. Like, I mean, you see somebody all of a sudden try to go a different direction than people like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. What the hell is that? But for me, they've kind of, I've wanted them to love me. You know, I wanted, I wanted to connect with the people. Like I see that with you, with your fans. Cause I, I read that stuff and I watch, I watch jelly with the fans. Like you can tell there's a connection. It ain't just about the song. Like there are friends, friends. And that's why I've always seen it. Like I see people at shows. I'm like,

I've seen you 10 times this year. I'm like, my show's really good, but shit, it ain't changed. It ain't got that much difference. And they're driving five hours to see me again. It's like, that blows my mind. That's so humbling. So I think right through the country is a good explanation of who I am. But this new record is 24 songs. It's got a lot of cool stuff, a lot more of me singing on my own, doing songs by myself. But I'm super jacked about the Hoodbillies thing because it's something fun and it's kind of a sound thing.

I've never heard the whole sound before. So I've never heard the whole sound. It seems to be your forte, introducing new sounds. Yeah, and that's been fun. And so, and Chris is just such a freaking genius. And obviously you guys know, because I met... Oh yeah, we love Chris. He's written with Jay and had some success. Tech, all of them. Travis, we love Travis Le Guin. Yeah, I mean, like, I hope... I mean, like, Hoodbillies feels like we need to go do this shit on the road with Jelly. Like, we need to take Hoodbillies out. Because it's just...

it's just, you, if you ain't smiling when you listen to that, you probably need to go lay on a couch and talk to somebody like something's going on with you because it's just so fun. And, uh, I'm just going to keep on, I'm just gonna keep on making music. Like I've been producing a lot of younger kids, uh,

this kid, there's a kid named King Jerome. Uh, as a young black kid from Dallas, Texas lives on a horse farm. Like I love that. Like that's what he does. That's amazing. And he's kind of a country R and B kind of thing. That's on all of this killing it. And then there's a kid named Blake fades from Oklahoma. I love Blake. So he actually just DM to me the other day. So we're, we're,

He's talent. His sound that we have created versus kind of where he started for where he is now. He's from Ardmore, Oklahoma, which is where my fiance is from, which is where Megan's from. And this sound, somebody asked me to describe it. I said, well, if you mixed...

Post Malone, DaBaby, and Coe Wetzel together. That's kind of what he sounds like. And they're like, well, that doesn't exist. I'm like, well, yeah, it does. We were producing his record right now, and it's some of the coolest shit I've ever heard. No, he's great. I discovered him on TikTok. Never heard anything like it in my life. I've heard pieces of it. It's got some little pieces of me in there. But then there's just some other stuff where I'm going,

wow I've never heard anything like this it's super cool check him out guys Blake Fades on TikTok he's amazing and uh yeah just gonna keep on keep on rocking I love that you're always helping the younger kids if you had any advice for any females or males that are trying to come up in the genre or just in music in general what would you say just this podcast is brought to you by eHarmony the

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Be honest. I know you've seen that. I know we keep talking back to Jay, but there's so many similarities in our musical journey as what we tried to do younger versus where we ended up. It didn't happen. It almost happened. It kind of happened. Then it didn't. And somebody's going to help us and then they didn't. It's kind of morphed its way into where it is now. But it's like, it's just, you got to be honest with who you are as an artist. Because quite honestly, I know some friends of mine in this town that,

are not necessarily happy every night singing what they sing yeah and i'm like damn that must suck because it's not them right i'm like that must really suck but i've had an artist friend of mine a big artist that i'm sure you all know yeah one time i was like he just finished a record i was like he goes well i love half of it and i'm like what do you mean he goes well the label made me cut the other half i'm like well damn that must really suck bro yeah that is the one advantage i do have like i ain't never had to record somewhere i'm like

I want to do that. Right. That's not who I am. Yeah. Like, so be honest. I mean, be yourself. Be yourself. Yeah. If, if there's like-minded people like you, then they'll find it. And now more than ever, you can do it without the labels and stuff. You can do it. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And I've told several artists that, you know, like you don't need us. You don't need anybody. Just keep doing your,

keep doing what you're doing. Look like, look it up church. I mean, just killing it on his own. Ryan's great. He's so smart. Yeah. I mean like it's in, everybody can do it so many different ways now, which is cool. And it allows, and somewhere right now there's some kid sitting in his basement somewhere and whatever little town making the hottest shit you ever heard that you haven't heard yet. Yeah. And there's some beautiful young blonde girls going, I want to be bunny. And I, and, and,

and you're where's she at tell her come on and they're trying you know I mean yeah that's cool I mean that's that's no I love that no we have definitely influenced the younger generation in the podcast area for sure I've helped a couple girls get their start in the podcast area so I try I'm just like you I try to game up everybody that I can and just help I mean any anybody long as I see that you that you'll listen and hustle and that's you know like with Blake when I mean I spent he goes you don't ever talk to me about music I'm like music's easy

bro. Like you already know who you are. I'm at like, I'm trying to tell you how to win at this game and I'm old enough to be your dad. So I'm telling you shit. I'm trying to tell you how to avoid the snakes. Some of them don't want to listen though, unless until they go through it themselves. And that's true. And sometimes you just got to go, okay, man, I tried, but go do your thing. And I wish you the best of luck. Some of the young artists, I'm like, I'm trying to tell you how to, there's a hole over there. Don't fall in that hole. There's a snake over there. He'll bite you. Don't, don't pick him up. I mean, like I'm trying to tell him that. And that's,

you know, it's stuff I've learned over a lot of years trying to chase it. And, uh, you know, it's, but it's, it's still great to be able to make music and do stuff like this, to come do things like this. Uh, yeah, it's still great to be able to do it. I'm excited. Isn't it amazing? The, the wisdom that comes with being,

Because I'm 43. So, and I look back at 23 year old me and 23 year old me would never listen to 43 year old me. That's Megan. She's 43. She'll be, I'll be 44 here. I mean, I'll be 54 in August. Yeah. That, yeah, it's, it's amazing what you learn. Yeah. You know, still trying to tell little girl here,

of the things that you're trying to see as you grow up. You got to listen to him because we do know what we're talking about. I promise. It might not make sense now, but it will. So many times I just didn't. I think back and I drop all these sayings on people all the time. They're like, I'm like, my dad used to say, my dad was just like,

the unbelievable motivator and coach and just made everybody like, everybody loved him. Like they, I was like, I don't know if he was the best baseball coach, but the players would run through a brick wall from him and that's for him. And that's all that matters. That's way more. They believed in him and he would just constantly say these things. Now that as I get older, I'm like, Oh my God, that's just, that's so, you know, it's just so good. I meant like, it's just, it's so good. He was just a little old used car dealer. I mean, it didn't come from much and,

You know, but I meant, he just said rents, rents never, he said success is never owned, it's rented and rents due every day. Oh, I love that. Every day you got to get up and get after. It's my new, it's my new motto. Every day. I meant like you don't own this. You got to get up and get after it every day. Absolutely. And so that's just,

Now that I got it, I'm scared to lose it because I've came from nothing, you know? So it's like, I'll never stop. Right. Cause I'm just always going to chase the dream. And you've worked hard to get to where you are and you've overcome a lot of obstacles. And I mean, that's one of the things that impresses me about you. I mean, I loved, I don't know all of your story. I know, I know as much as you let me in, but you're very open and honest with letting people know like, Hey, I've,

We all, we've all, we're all sin. We've all fall short. Yeah, for sure. I mean, none of us are really worthy, but if you get up and go make the most of it every day and try to, you know, do something that makes a difference in somebody's life, then shit happens.

My dad would always say that. He's like, remember, you're trading a day of your life today that could be important to somebody. Like, you don't know who it is. So take the time at the gas station to save yourself and, you know, shake their hand and take a picture. So I just, I try to never forget that. Absolutely. Tour. Let's talk about tour real quick. I'm out there.

They're all over the place. He's like, I'm outchia. I'm outchia. Tell them where they can like... How many more cities do you have? I'm just playing everywhere. Fairs, festivals, bars. He's like, wherever. You'll see me. Backyards, Bunny's house, wherever it is. There we go. Let's go. Wherever they're...

play it you know wherever they want me at i'll play like yeah do you have a set schedule right now yeah there's there's a i probably there's probably 50 60 shows still left on the book wow i wonder if we cross um on our tour i don't know i hope i i hope someday we'll be able to get out there and play some shows with y'all i meant well we're because we leave for tour on thursday so we're going to be out on the road but if you guys are playing in the same catch it somewhere yeah pop through and say what's up that would be amazing yeah i hope so i mean like i said i'm

huge fan of what, what Jay's doing. I mean, I love seeing it. I love seeing the success. I love seeing the, the crossover. I mean, like that shit is just, it's cool to me and I'm, I'm proud of him and proud of you that y'all doing your thing. We're proud of you. Colt, thank you so much for coming by. It's my pleasure. You are just a sweetheart and I hope you just,

till the wheels fall off man like you're amazing i'll put some skis on and listen you're out here playing blind i believe you okay not anymore but you were tell everybody where they can find you on social media just everywhere and you know all please trust the blue check marks all these pages god almighty i'm like anybody has to be

If you're hustling that much, you've got to fake a Colt Ford page. Shit. You need to get some other stuff going on in your life. But Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, all those, I'm out there everywhere trying to, I'm still trying to learn this TikTok thing. I'm a little old for it, but I'm trying to. I think you're crushing it. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm still trying to figure it out. And then coltford.com. I mean, I'm out there. And we'll respond and we'll see it shows. We're out there doing it. Yay.

Yay. Thank you so much for coming by. It was my pleasure, Dawn. Thank you. Thank you for sitting in too. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.