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All right, gentlemen, coming to main stage next. This is Bunny. Get up there. She's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars. Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, I have two of TikToks. I

I don't know. Do I dare call you guys the villains of TikTok? Or what would be a good word to describe you guys, Kristen and Whitney? I think villain is a great thing. I'll go with that. My dog's name is villain. There's nothing wrong with being a villain. Oh, no. I find absolutely nothing wrong with that. But really, I don't think you guys are villains. I think literally, did you guys ever watch The Hills?

Okay. I've never seen it. You guys have. Okay. So already off to a bad start. All right. One. No, not at all. I think, see, to me, I'm in my villain era always. So I don't think there's anything wrong with being a villain. You can, you can be a villain with a hero's heart. That doesn't mean anything, you know, being called a villain, but I think you guys are really misunderstood by,

But there's a show called The Hills, which you guys, if you ever have time to watch it, need to sit down and watch it. And people were fucking obsessed with these kids. I'm talking like knew everything about their lives. And I feel like that's how you guys are. Like I literally... Every movement, every action, everything that we do, somebody's watching. Yeah. It's scary. It's insane. And so when I say villain, I don't think it's a bad thing. You know, I think it's like you guys are... People are so fucking fascinated by...

you guys like it's just insanity yeah it's crazy how are you guys welcome to the dumb blonde podcast we're excited i'm really excited kind of nervous but i mean stomach down down those down those trulys and you'll be good yeah oh yeah if i get lazy i just mind your business seriously what are you guys doing in nashville um i made a song yesterday yay with who um

I don't know his last name. Dustin Castello. Castello. Castello. Yay. So you sing with? Yeah. Actually, I'm like always nervous to sing in front of people. So, I mean, she's helped me, but like on stage, I think that it would take a

Well, I mean, if that's what you want to do, yeah. But it's practice makes perfect too. So, you know, like you'll be nervous now and then it'll be like fucking second hat to you, you know, once you start really doing it. That's awesome. I'm proud of you. That's constructive. I try to do karaoke when I'm, you know, shots deep. Listen, I love me some karaoke. Love, love, love me. It's so fun. Yeah. So what are you guys doing out here? You guys are staying at Caden's house. We love Caden. Love him. Isn't he a doll face? Yes. Yes. Love him. Who else is there? Is he living here?

Yeah, he's living here now. It's Tyler, Kaden, Jaden. Kreesh. Kreesh. Kreesh is like back and forth. It's the whole squad. Gotcha. We had so much fun last night. We all got into a circle and played...

the most obnoxious music and screaming into the microphone dancing. I don't know. We were doing splits. I seriously, I was doing tricks. I don't even know I could do. It was amazing. She said I was busting it wide open. So honestly, yeah. Take me. Okay. Where did you grow up? Kristen, we're going to bounce back and forth from you guys. So Kristen, where did you grow up? Where are you from? So I kind of moved all over. Um, most of my life was spent in Michigan from like 10, 10 years old till I was 20. Um, I was born in Colorado. Um,

My dad was in the military, so I moved around everywhere. But yeah, most of my life was spent in Michigan. And then I decided to move to Florida when I got a little older and met her. Are you close with your parents? I'm very close to my parents now. I wasn't when I was growing up in high school. Yeah, I don't think anybody is. No, always so strict. Yeah. Yeah, you're like...

You're like, no mom, no dad. But now it's like as you're older, you're like, okay, I see why he is. He was my best friend, yeah. Oh, I love that. So mom and dad are still together? Yep. Awesome. I love that. What about you, Whip? I grew up in St. Pete, Tampa. Okay. All my whole life, I've always been there. Yay. Yeah. I love Florida. I know. Florida's amazing. I don't know if I could live there during the summertime though because-

It's hot. It's like 105. And the humidity is like 112. It's fucking just disgusting, dude. Every time I go there, I'm like swamp puss. I can't fucking do it. Literally swamp ass. Swamp ass. I'm going to have some serious swamp ass up in there. Seriously. I can't do it. Like legit. Fuck.

So where did you go to high school, Kristen? I went to Lakeshore High School, which is in a small town in Michigan. Can I say the town? Yeah, of course. I mean, everybody seems to know everything about you, so I don't think this is a surprise. Not at all. Addresses, moms, birthdays, sisters, dads, cousins,

Honestly, I'm going to be surprised if my social security card came out soon. No, but I went to a small... It wasn't that small. I graduated with maybe like 300 kids. Okay. I could be so balling. I don't know. It was in a town called Stevensville. And I started going to school there since fifth grade. So, like I said, most of my life was spent in Michigan where my dad's side, all the family's there. Awesome. What about you? I went to some... Actually, I went to three different high schools. So...

I started out at a Christian school my whole life until ninth grade, and then I left. Went to a public school, which was like 3,000, 4,000 kids, and then went back to a Christian school, and then I got kicked out and went back to Seminole. I went to a Christian school, too. It's very hard when you're a rebellious child. So it's kind of like now. Everybody knows what you're doing. It's a 24-hour rule. You can't do anything without the judge. And people are very judgmental. Yes. Exactly. That's why I left. Well, left, I got removed.

in 11th grade what'd you get removed for i actually dated a girl for two years and they found out and they were not happy with are you lesbian are you like i'm bi i would say more towards men just i had a really bad experience with a girl and she was very insecure and i mean we both grew together but it was like really hard because we both were young and we were like one of the first girls i mean

I would say around that came out and a lot of people like looked up to us and it was, it was hard, but yeah, especially cause the older adults were probably a lot. Oh yeah. My family did not. Oh, so your family, my mom was supportive. It was just more pushing towards,

Not. Right. But is your mom extremely religious? How's your relationship with your parents? Yeah. My I'm really, really close to my parents. I have a stepdad. He's really he's amazing. But my dad passed away when I was 12. So but I'm really close to my mom now. Like very close. So I'm sorry to hear that. My mom just passed away last week. So I couldn't imagine going through that at 12. That would suck. No, it's OK. I'm good. It's really hard. Yeah. Especially I mean, like nowadays, like.

society and like boys they don't know how to treat women oh at all so it's hard to grow up without a dad to show you how you should be treated totally i feel for you guys having to date in this era because i thought boys men whatever you want to call them or fuck boys when i was growing up you guys are like in the microwave era where everything's replaceable everybody wants every

thing right now social media everybody looks up to this like cute i mean someone could be prettier nicer funnier have more money have more followers there's always more options they'll know they'll never know what they have they just constantly want to look for more yeah no better crazy i mean like i mean girls do it too but it's more i mean it's harder for us just do you have people who try to date you guys for your social media presence yes but we can tell who you can tell we've how do you tell what are the signs

Okay, so constantly... I didn't know this until I recently went through it. But constantly posting you, talking... Everything's on social media. I'm guilty of it. I'm guilty of blasting my life on social media. But I feel like the DMs, the messages, the public Snapchats, all that type of stuff where they can get females in any situation. And they're going to constantly compare you to them or constantly rub it in your face that they can get better or whatever the case is. So you never feel like good enough for them because...

There's constantly more prettier, better looking, all that type of stuff. It's just, it's a battle. It really is. It's terrible. I would hate to fucking have to go through that. Have you guys ever dated somebody for their social media presence? I've only had one boyfriend, so no. I try to date people that don't have any clout. My first relationship with the girl was, I've had followers since I was like 16, 17, so I know what it is. And then when I met her, I was like, I went through the exact same thing. And it's team Whitney, team...

my ex and it was like so hard because was it a was it on social media okay i was twitter like twitter famous okay so i just want to clarify and i've said this to you guys off camera and i'm gonna say it on camera i'm a grown woman i don't have time to follow you guys's drama you know but of course you guys come in on the podcast i had tons of people saying well

you need to ask her about this. You need to ask her about that. I genuinely brought you guys on this podcast because one, I love little boss babies. And I think you guys, and I say that with love because I'm 42 years old, you know, and I just see you guys coming up and I'm just like, this is so fucking cool. Whitney, you're beautiful. Kristen, you're beautiful, you know? And I think it's really cool that you guys are building these brands. And I think last time I said that somebody was like, what brands are they building? I'm like,

themselves like that the fact that you guys are a household fucking name the fact that you have a website and a frenzy with tens and thousands of people on there just dissecting your lives that's a fucking brand paragraphs i'm talking somebody could write an entire book and we've never like the stuff that we read on there we're like yeah it's new to me i never even heard it it's crazy they're saying that i don't even know if you're obviously there but they're saying that um

we had people signing NDAs to hang out with us and like all this stuff. I have bitches sign NDAs to hook up with my husband and I, so there's nothing wrong with that. I love that. That's great. No, as you should, but like, but like for us, like,

But they look at it, they pick apart and put it in such a negative way. Even if we did have people sending NDAs or consents or anything like that. But they always take everything negative. But it's in a negative way because they're like, oh, well, they think they're all that. They think they're famous. They think, and we don't think we're famous, but we definitely know we have a name. I have a page of 23,000 people that completely shit on me. I know I'm known. Right. So I know that I have things to worry about and protect myself with if something were to happen.

Well, let's move. Let's move the conversation over to that since we're on it right now. How does that make you guys feel to know that these people are literally tearing you apart and just saying the meanest things lying outright because they've done it to me too. Like they will just chop up shit and just fucking make it.

A sentence that I didn't say and fucking say that I said it like that's got you guys are babies, you know, like you're when I was 21. I was like fucking Lindsay Lohan. I was snorting fucking eight balls of cocaine off strippers asses. I was fucking robbing motherfuckers for their money like I was doing crazy shit. So if I would have been on social media, just would have been lit with my name too, you know, and that's why I look at you guys and I'm just like.

You guys are fucking kids. Like, all these people that are fucking talking shit about you guys, what were they doing at 21? Fucking sitting in church with their hands in their lap being good? Like, it's just crazy. And it's almost like you guys can't make a mistake. So how does that make you guys feel? We actually just had a conversation about this. Sometimes we literally just do stuff on purpose for them to post it on there. Oh, like me grabbing a Trulia to drink? Yeah. No, that's definitely for it. Yeah. I antagonize it. But no, and...

We were just talking about this the other day. Go ahead. It's understandable. Yeah. Because, I mean, we don't really feed into it, but it's just like, if they're going to be judging everything I do, might as well, I mean, I don't know. We just, we're like rock hard now at this point. Like, I've had A to B to homosexuals, like,

like homophobics all that through now to being like fat shamed and like all that are like you guys are tiny I'm being fat shamed I mean people think I'm pregnant people think it's to the point where it's just like I'm fat I'm gaining weight but like I mean genuinely I was not even a year ago I was 92 pounds

I was like that was like a few months ago but you know that that website is a reflection of how those people feel inside you guys are everything that they want to so now we at this point we just kind of laugh it like not laugh it off but it's just like what else we know that we know the truth we know how we are in person we know that we're like awesome people like everybody that's actually met us they say the same thing and if they don't it's because they're either jealous or they don't want

like anything to do with us right they want other people to view us a different way right but it's got to be hurtful like some of the shit you guys I mean I see it's like we'll repeat it like we'll read it and like we'll like repeat it a few times and like in our heads and we'll laugh about it and say like a comeback or like say something like well I don't know why they would even think that or blah blah but then we kind of just like talk each other out of it and then we're really good though because they do it to us equally and we we

We want to laugh at it because our personalities are just so like laughing about everything, make jokes or anything. I mean, very easygoing, but it does get to us because I mean, imagine 23,000 people going on there and then just saying, oh, well, the thing now is for me that my pussy stinks. I constantly use monistat. I got yeast infections out the ass. I'm just fat now and all this type of stuff. It's like,

But like certain boys started that as well. So like it doesn't help when people. It's literally like a burn book. Yeah. An online burn book. It's sad. And I would wish nothing. I would wish no one else to go through it. I'm glad me and Whitney are the ones that get it because we really can laugh it off and be really positive about it as much as we can. But we were talking about how like if we were in this situation in the past or like how she was before like.

We wouldn't have been able to get through it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's sad because these people don't realize that one thing, two things that you guys say can make us not be here anymore. Right. And it sucks. It's really sad. No, that is terrible. I've been in that position whether anyone believes it or not, but I've been in the position where I have tried to take my own life because I was bullied really bad in high school, but nothing will compare to

how I'm being bullied now. But I think because I started social media a while ago, it's helped me build that so I don't feel that way anymore. I mean, I have been depressed because of it, but... Right. Let's rewind really quick. So you... When did you... You got on the internet at 16 and you did too? Yeah, it was like...

Right when I finished my senior year. So not 16, but probably around 18 years old. Yeah. Okay. 18 or 19. And you too, Whitney? Yeah. I was probably, I was like, it was my, my senior year. Yeah. Okay. And then you guys just had a following and started growing your brand or whatever online. Okay. So this is like not new. Well, I mean, you guys, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, five years.

I have to count with my fingers because I am the worst at fucking math. I pretty much failed math in high school, so sorry. I can count money and make money all day long. Ask me to add something, I can't fucking do it. Okay, so you guys aren't new to this, but still, it's fucked up. So how did you two meet? Oh, I love it. I was so excited when you were going to ask this. I'll start. We... Actually, I got together with a big group of people from TikTok. We went to Miami. All got an Airbnb. And... Can you name the names of...

Um, I would say like names of people who were there. Yeah. Of who the, who the big group was. Oh, like, um, honestly, my roommate, JMO, Jack Gentry, um, Sal Stiles. I think his last name is Sal Stiles. I don't know any of these people. No, a lot of them are on the side of LGBTQ. Um, I think like Jane Rivera, there was like a, like a huge group of us. Right. And we all just went to hang out, just all meet. Oh, Kat. There was a few of them. And, um,

I had two roommates at the time. They were boys. And they knew that her and her old roommate live and brought them to the house. And I didn't know who they were at first. And I was just like, I was actually in a really bad mood that night. When I tell you I walked in this house. I was really upset. No, I walked in this house and I looked at her and I think like angels were like shining behind her. Like she was like the most like.

No, I'm not joking. I just have to add this in here. The most beautiful person I've ever seen in my entire life. And Liv literally walked up to me and were like... My mouth was... I was like, you are gorgeous. And I was like, you guys are so cute.

So then I didn't really... We didn't get close after that. She was closer to my old roommate, Liv, for the longest time. And then we went through some shit. And then... Who's we went through some shit? Me and my old roommate, Liv. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. That's one of the questions people want me to ask. Yeah, that's fine. And we'll get into that whenever you get done with this. And then...

After all that went through, um... Were you still hanging out? Well, I was friends with Connor, too, before. And, um, when they had dated... Were you guys together? Uh, yeah. We were together when I moved to Florida. And we were together most of the time I was in Michigan. But I was not together with him when I first met. Okay, gotcha. It was more... He was friends with my roommate. So he was, like, kind of at the house hanging around while they were having issues. And then, um, he ended up, like, going home or whatever. And...

I became friends with her, so... Gotcha. And it was just... It was love at first. I just... Oh, no, it was. I was like... I just saw she was struggling a lot and, like, I have, like, um...

I'm kind of stable, like, with, I think, my mental health. And, like, I'm always, like, adventurous and wanting to do stuff. And I could see, like, within her that she's very open and excited about doing things and outgoing. She just needs motivation. So I was, like, I would always text her and, like, hey, like, you should come over and hang out. We should go do these things and blah, blah, blah. And, like, she was a little depressed at the time. So I would have to literally go pick her up to go do these things because she wouldn't get out of bed. So I think that helped her a lot. And...

Then I started like, like taking her in. Basically, I was like, oh, I just like, I love you. I want to make you feel like you should feel at home, like not whatever these people make you feel. So I wanted her to like, you know, feel as I felt. I knew what I was going to cry. It's okay. She is helping me through it all.

No, but that's good. I have a best friend that I'm still best friends with who it was. I was the brunette and she was the blonde. And literally we have been best friends for over 30 years. She's coming to my husband's show in Chicago this weekend. So having a true friendship is a beautiful thing. I was really close with Liv. I consider her as my best friend and everything, but like,

She's older than me. She's like, what, two years older than me? And so she has had a little more experience in life in general. When's your birthday, Whitney? August 11th. Leo. I'm 24. Oh, yeah, that's right. I booked you guys' things. And you're a Virgo? Yes, I'm a Virgo. Yeah, Leo Virgo. I'm a Leo, yeah. So she just helps me, has helped me so much, like mentally, physically, physically.

and everything you want to fix people like i always want to just take a man oh i love that that's how i am too so you have a very motherly um spirit yeah about you i got like an immature you know brain sometimes i just always want to have fun that's part of that's part of growing you guys are doing pretty damn good for your fucking age okay um so let's talk about what do we want to talk about first do we want to talk about live or do we want to talk about connor which one

both are interesting so let's talk about live and then we'll get into connor yeah so me and like just from like the start or yeah just kind of i think everybody's wondering what happened with you guys where you guys are at now your relationship with her and stuff like that yeah so we met through tiktok she actually reached out to me and dn me we both lived in michigan at the time like an hour away from each other she was from grand rapids i was from stevensville um

and she just had dn me and was like why don't you come hang out with me i was like bad made an hour drive there hung out there and i was like oh my gosh she's like me so we just kept hanging out she moved in with me um like i would say like like two months after we met she came and moved down um the part of michigan i was in and we lived together for a year and then we decided that we wanted to

expand I guess and go somewhere else because it was just a really small town we were I mean we had just started also getting bigger on social media together and we were traveling to LA in different parts and just meeting all these people so we were super excited about it so we decided to move to Florida um we got an apartment in August and we moved there it was really fun and I was I started dating Connor before gosh before we moved it was probably like three months before we moved to Florida I started dating Connor and

Because y'all had visited a few times, like me. Yeah, we went to Florida. We tried to find out where we wanted to live. We got no really big issues at all while we were living in the apartment. We lived in two places together in Florida. So the apartment, the only problem that we ever really had was she was just upset constantly that Connor was there, which, oh my goodness, he would never leave. But that was kind of the only... We never really argued. She also would have a lot of health issues, which...

as a friend I constantly and also I'm very like mother like nature like I constantly want to I get a cut she's right there I'm like I'm just I'm just like that type of person as well and so I was constantly taking care of her which can take I never told anybody this can take a mental toll on you because I was sick sometimes and you know I wanted to be nurtured in a way or something like that but I

I was so focused on making sure she was okay. She had lupus. She was constantly taking so many medication shots. It was hard to keep up with it, but I was always the one that would be like, you take your meds, make sure you have your meds, call her doctors, make appointments and things like that. And she helped me too as well, taking me to appointments when I had anxiety, et cetera. So we both helped each other a lot there. Our friendship started going downhill when we moved into a house because we actually got evicted from our first apartment because we

Can I say Rocky's name? Can I like say? Yeah. Okay. I don't see why not. Okay. So Rocky and J-Sauce also got evicted. We lived in the same apartment complex. They got evicted because they're just dumb. They're just boys. And then so they came and we let them stay with us until they could just get situated or whatever. We had a three bedroom apartment. And while I was in Michigan for Christmas...

I think they decided to have some people over, which got us evicted. And we weren't really upset about it because it's whatever. So we got a house, four-bedroom house, like 10 minutes away from where we were. Still really good friends at that point. And then she started dating... I'm going to say it too because I don't like him. His name was Brandon. She started dating him. They kind of went back a while. And he changed her a lot. He was very...

What's the word, Whitney? Controlling. Very, very controlling. And as a friend, it's really sad seeing someone go through that because she saw me go through that with Connor and she was constantly like literally crying with me on how I felt. And so seeing her go through that, I'm like, she's...

shoot like sorry you're streaming over here um so it's really sad seeing that yeah it's hard to watch your friend you know uh when it's when you see them going through something that they can't see but you also want to be happy for them because you're so in love with them or yeah it seems you know um and then that's when oh gosh okay that's when me and rocky

started doing our thing and Liv and Rocky had a pass they never dated does everybody fuck everybody I mean it feels like it I haven't done anything with anybody in the group and I'm so proud of that Whitney said hey good for you Whitney it's not my fault they became homies after you can't call me homie you can't call me homie and they became friends after well I think sometimes when you have a mutual dislike for somebody that brings people closer together too

100%.

Connor might tell a different story, but you know, his mother did not want him to do the podcast. And after that, I called him one time after I got off the phone with you. He did not answer. I'm not going to chase him to come on my podcast. And I never heard from him. So I felt so bad after that. I mean, cause we came, we were coming, we're supposed to be on your podcast. Yeah.

last month ago yeah last season months ago and that's not me talking shit that's just me oh no stating facts and not talking shit at all because that's genuinely what happened i literally was sitting at the bar with whitney at the airport and i remember you calling me and i was like

I felt horrible for you because you're like, I didn't even know anything about the drama. And I'm like, yeah, this poor woman doesn't know anything about the drama. She's getting calls from whoever. And she did. She genuinely was like, Hey, would you be okay if we all came in here and sat down together? And I said, you know what? If that's what it takes to maybe we can all get along a hundred percent. And they didn't want Whitney to be there. Cause that's my bitch. She

She talks shit with me. She's very well grounded as well. And I think they were more afraid of like you guys just getting loud and like arguing. And I just kept saying, yeah. And I, well, I kind of, you know, I've, I've been sitting back watching the situation and, um, Connor, uh,

You can tell is still very hurt by the situation. You know, he started crying to me on the phone. He is. And you started crying too when I told you that he was crying. So I kind of feel like there might be like some... Well, it never ended. Resolved. Yeah, never. It was always just back and forth. Yeah, like I feel like you guys...

To hate somebody as much as he portrays that he hates you, there has to be love behind it. He doesn't. I genuinely think that too. If they were to sit down in a room and talk, I don't think they've ever done that. Yeah. I just think that it's necessary. So we're not here to bash Connor. Kristen is here to tell her side of the story. And, you know, we're going to be very conscious of Connor's mental health as we proceed. So do you want me to start from...

Yeah. Well, so you said that, um, with you and live that that's when you and Rocky started messing around. So if you want to intertwine, you can. Yeah. So obviously me and Connor had broken up, um,

I broke up with Connor. I guess I kind of forgot this part. I broke up with Connor right before we moved into the house. Okay. It was around, it was after Christmas, January, right when we were moving into the house. And then it was months later. It wasn't like the next day I went and slept with Rocky type thing at all. It was months later because Rocky and Liv were kind of just, no, they only did it for like,

two months two or three months so after you while you were with connor yeah it was while i was with connor and then so then we were all just like chilling like there was no no one sleeping in the house i guess and then she brought brandon and then that's when they started dating and okay i'm hanging out so live and rocky were hooking up before she got with brandon yes okay yes yes and she hadn't been with connor yet or she was let me yeah live who was with connor was live with connor too no okay oh no no i thought i heard you say that earlier

I mean, I don't know. That's now, but I'm going to say. No, I'm not starting any rumors. I'm not going to either because I have no idea what goes on now. But so started dating Brandon and then me and Rocky were pretty low key for. Oh my gosh, that's terrible. For like two months, we were really low key about it.

We were just hooking up. And then I caught feelings like a fucking dumbass. I mean, seriously, it was ridiculous. Should have never even done that. But does that make you a dumbass? Because he did too. He did too. But that's so then Liv and Brandon moved out because Liv was upset at me because I was hooking up with him, which I get as girl to girl. I completely get and I'm not going to sit here because I know this is gonna be on social media. I get I was wrong. I probably should not have done that. But why was she upset? Yeah.

She said she really liked him. Okay. But they had never hooked up.

rocky and lyft yeah no they did okay that's what i was just asking a second ago oh i think you said connor oh okay well fuck me i fucking cannot i cannot remember all the no no there's so many names that's how much i don't know the drama i don't even know who's who i know rocky's got a weird hairdo and that's all i know that's all i just know it from the hair that's it and i'm not talking shit but that's just all i know you know if that's his thing that's his thing whatever

I just know I was the dude with the hair. So, okay, okay, gotcha. So Liv liked Rocky. They were hooking up, and then she met her boyfriend. Brandon. They moved out because she was upset at me. There was a lot of, like, tension in the house. Brandon did not like Rocky because of Rocky and Liv. And Rocky was never disrespectful to their relationship, so I don't see that side of him acting like the way he did. Okay, but it was more Brandon was being...

Liv didn't really ever say anything until Brandon would start the fire. He would light the fire. Then Liv was obligated to come up because Brandon was running his mouth. So it was more of like Brandon. That's how Liv changed. Liv is not a... She's not controversial. She's a very non-confrontational. I've never heard her yell or argue anything.

nothing until she came around she just said but one thing i would try to and i'm glad brandon helped her was speak her voice if when you're upset at someone don't be afraid to tell them i mean it's taken a while to learn that too but now with social media whatever it's you have to have a voice you have to stand up for yourself in this world so they moved out and then obviously me and rocky continued doing what we were doing and this is why you and connor were split

No, I had no... Oh, so you were with Rocky before Connor? No, after. No, after. Okay. Like, I know there's a lot of rumors going on saying that I cheated on Connor with Rocky. No correlation at all. No, I'm just trying to make sure I understand. Her brain was broken up with him and she gave him another chance. Like, they broke up in what, like, September. It was, in September. They took a break another month and then all of a sudden they were sneaky. We got back together. And they went on vacation and they got back together. We did, we got back together in October. We were on vacation. It was never...

Right. It was never overlapping. No, but it wasn't healthy. So, right. Yeah. So that's when we rocket continued during and caught really bad feelings for the dude. Um, I don't know why. I think it was because, so with Connor, it was a very like, I was like,

I don't know. He's so sensitive, which is not a bad thing. And I'm not hating on him. He's so sensitive. But it almost takes like a toll on you because I could not do anything. Egg shells. It was like... Egg shells. He'd get upset if I went out to dinner with my friends and didn't invite him or something like that. Like, it was a constant battle with that. He got upset for me for telling the truth about why he didn't come on the podcast. And I... He blocked me and got upset with me because...

I was hanging out with her. Yeah. Again, I'm not talking shit. I'm just painting a picture here. No, it's truthful. It's not talking shit. It's truthful. And people are scared of the truth. And they're always telling me that I'm scared to get called out. And they're saying you're going to go. It's like the truthful thing. He is a very sensitive person. I dated the man for eight months. It's not wrong to be sensitive. But I think that he doesn't.

heal correctly he does and it's been over a year since me and Connor broke when's his birthday September 10th we're 8 days apart we're 8 days apart yeah wow okay so I don't

I don't know. It's been a year and a half. I think maybe he, there might be some love there, you know? Maybe. And I think that. I think he's just very upset that it all of a sudden like. I have, I have literally no. Especially because you guys don't have any closure. Yeah. No, I have no hate for the kid. And I would tell anyone that. And I think that he thinks that. Would you want to sit down and talk to Connor if he was willing? Like. 100%. And not on live and not, you know, like. Yeah, but we know he would probably be on live during the whole thing. So. Yeah. She can't even.

I was really taken aback by the live that he did and where he was sitting there just calling you names. Like I... Chlamydia Ball. That has got to be number one of my favorite thing I've been called that. Chlamydia Ball? Chlamydia Ball. I'm not joking. When I heard him call me that, I was like, that's cool. Well, that's when all... That's when you guys were all supposed to come on. So people were tagging you and stuff. People were sending it to me and I was just like, oh my God, like what is going on? I felt so bad for you. I was like, this girl's gonna think we're

No, you know, honestly, I'll talk to you about it whenever we're not on air, but we have an amazing idea that we're going to present with you to you guys. So, um, but we'll, we'll do that off air. Get, we'll get the fucking website just buzzing right now. They're probably fucking just going to be so excited. Um, okay. So let's moving on. So what, what happened with you and live? So like, are you guys friends? So now, um, so we,

I mended the relationship. It was after her and Brandon broke up. Very, very... I won't speak on their relationship, but a little bit very toxic. Right. Which I knew it would be. I don't think anybody has a healthy relationship at you guys' age. No, especially with social media. I had the most toxic relationships from my 20s. Yeah, and they moved in together, which I think is a big, like, no, because...

You're with them every... You need breaks. I know when you're married, but you still need breaks from someone else. Oh, yeah. No, for sure. So when none of them have, as they tell us, real-life jobs and they just do social media, they're constantly together. Yeah. Going to constantly bicker and things like that. So very toxic relationship for them. They broke up. She did... We never really stopped talking while we weren't friends because she went on social media completely shit on my name. It was absolutely sad. I didn't do that to her. Liv did. Liv did.

it was really bad. Wow. Really bad. I was like hurt really bad and she was hurt too. That's why she did it. Yeah. Um, but I've never had anybody ever do something like that to me. Um,

very personal things too yeah that I would never if I if she she knows everything about my life and she went on it's like me telling her everything and then her telling literally everyone everything yeah so it was it was really sad girl code too you know yeah I broke it with but I feel like you guys are all learning a lot of like how to be what not to do on social media what you can do you know like and I I think that's where the world is so unforgiving with you guys is that

You guys are learning how to fucking navigate through life. Let me just give you an example, okay? This girl tells everyone where we're going. Yeah, you guys have to do that, baby. Ask my team. She tells the world, okay? Yeah. We're going on this cruise.

This has got to be the most embarrassing thing. I would say they could embarrassing a day cruise. We didn't get our vaccination. We lied and said we got a vaccination. We didn't know what else it in our we pull up to this cruise ship. We're so excited to get on. Okay, they scan her passport and error. We get pulled aside the only only two people. You're Whitney running Kristen when we're like, like, oh, they emailed us saying that you guys have fake cards. And I was like,

I don't know if you're going to block that, but email them. Contacted every... Contacted every cruise line that could possibly have been going out in Florida. Yep. At that date. No. And they pulled it up and they said, if you can give us your vaccination from CVS or Walmart, wherever you got it from, then we'll let you go on. And we're like...

how are we gonna fake this it was embarrassing it was so embarrassing everyone in our group so did you guys end up getting on no our whole family did everyone did it's embarrassing i mean they were saying though that on the cruise it was like miserable everybody was just yeah so i don't and then the week and then four days later they left the whole vaccine but still the fact that these people have that much time to do that like that's we're learning i tell her i'm like

No, I'm like that with my team. When we go anywhere, you're only allowed to check in after we leave. Yes. Like, I don't want anybody knowing where we are. And you have to move like that, especially because we don't even have half the people who want to harm us like you guys, you know? And it's really sad. I think with my issue is I've been on social media for a while.

I absolutely enjoy posting. I enjoy. So it's like now that everyone's, I don't even think about it because like a year ago I could post up in wherever I wanted to and say, I'm going on a cruise. Everyone's so excited for me. You know, they're like, have a blast. But then now it's like, let's show up and call every single ruin her life. And so I don't think about that. You know, you gotta think about these crazies that will like show up and like want to cut your skin off and wear it type shit. You know, literally like for real, like no. And that's how the world is wired. I'm sorry, but it's the truth. It really,

My kid, she's 16. She's not 16. She's 14. And I fucking freak out. Like, I'm just do not post on social media where you are. Like, you just have to keep it G like that, you know, or tell people you're somewhere else. Or if you're going on something, say it's the opposite of what you're doing. That's what I say. You know, like always kind of keep them guessing. You never want everybody to know where your location is. Yeah, I just don't. I just don't think about it because I've been able to do that. I've had the freedom. You think we're being normal right now.

And it's hard because I, you know, it's so sad, but we just totally sidetracked. No, you're good. Completely. We'll do this. So Liv. So. She went live. She broke up. She shitted on me while her and her boyfriend were together. It's, I blame it on Brandon, 100%. I know Liv is not like I was her best friend for a year and a half. I know she would never do something like that, but Brandon absolutely had a negative impact on her life really badly. And she had to learn that the hard way. Very, very.

verbally abusive relationship um and that's really sad so we didn't like I said we never really stopped talking right um we text here and there but no like hanging out nothing and then one night I was just like you know what I don't really like this I she was my best friend I texted her I was like let's hang out and so we hung out one night and had a blast I was like I missed this

and then hung out with Whitney the next day we went out for her birthday with Liv Jordan Bree I don't know if you know them but just like a girl like friend group we went out for her birthday we all got absolutely blasted and it was so fun it was so fun so then for her birthday as well we were coming to Nashville the week that you wanted us to come on the podcast which is a lot of drama and we were

really excited because we were like okay maybe we can just like all have fun but we didn't know we had kept the Nashville trip a secret from specifically Connor, Rocky and KB because we knew that they were going to what do they call themselves the steakhouse the steakhouse medium rare that's the only thing that ever ran my life anyway so we had really kept it offline as much as we could and then

You know Kylie Dweez? I don't know her, but I do follow her and Grant's little situation. Love her. She's an awesome mom person. They'll never let anyone ever tell you different. So she was coming. She had to tell Grant because of that. So Grant, because of the baby and their court and stuff like that, she had to tell him where she was going, which makes sense. But Grant opened his mouth and told all the boys. So then they started posting petty shit. So they're like, fuck.

So then we get there. We're on a house. Do you feel like it's a little bit of back and forth with you guys? Like you guys are both, both sides are antagonizing each other. Oh, I will not deny it. We've kind of recently stopped though. Like I don't,

I mean, sometimes I'll do, like, little here and there, so to speak. Because they constantly run their mouth. They just constantly, like, Connor will post stories about her, like, Photoshopped with, like, eight different dudes. It's just weird. It's weird shit. We don't do that. Like, it's been a... I would never do something... I'm not saying I would never, because I definitely have. But it's been a year and a half. Rocky will make his little stupid...

TikTok talking about how he, oh, I don't even know. And then Connor will do it. And then they'll think it's funny. They'll do it together. And then,

I just shut my mouth and then it's constant. So then I feel like I have to say something and then it's back and forth. - It's like our whole lives. We'll go live and it's comments, comments. You see what he posted. - I don't have any of them on social media. I don't have Rocky on Snapchat. I don't have Connor on Snapchat. I don't have KB on Snapchat. Their TikToks will pop up on, I have to make an account every week. So their TikToks pop up on my For You page. Don't follow them. Don't keep up with them. I genuinely have no interest in involving myself into them. As much people wanna say I'm obsessed. I don't remember the last time I've checked

or typed in connor john rocky any of them i get it i get shit sent to me right oh no i know people so i don't purposely go the right way so yeah we get to nashville and first night super fun uh did we go out the first night

We would have first night fun. A little bit of... Is that the night everything happened? The first night? Okay. A little bit of drama. No, because I thought I had heard that you guys like all made up or something. Like ran into each other. The boys made up. I was invited. It's funny they try to say that we weren't. But I was invited to the house with the boys. Yeah. I was friends with Meg and Meg was there. Who invited you?

And Lane, I'm pretty sure it was Lane. Who invited you? Lane. Lane, okay. And Meg. Yeah, and they were just like, yeah, you can come over, whatever. Well, we thought that some other people were asleep. We walk up there. We're both hammered. But I was like, stay back because I'm going to go. And she's like, just tell me what's going on, blah, blah, blah.

I'm nosy. I know they're all talking about me. I was just going to go hang out with the boys that weren't a part of it. I wanted to see Connor too though, right? Or no? No, we actually, I'll be honest. We wanted him to stay inside. It was everybody else but him and then he came out. We were told that Connor was sleeping. So that's why we could come over.

So before any of y'all bet to say anything, we all know that's true. So we walked up and then KB's like on the top screaming down. I was like, I'm not here for you. Here for your friend. Okay. They all came down. They all came out. All of them except Connor. They were all being nice. They were like flirting with us and like being funny. Just having a conversation. Connor comes out.

It was a whole show. And that's when you saw... Why the fuck is this girl here? Blah, blah, blah. She was talking to Rocky the whole time. Does he act different when he's offline than when he's online? He's still like that offline? I don't even know. We haven't even hung out with him. I mean, I do. How he talks about women and how he talks in general is how he talks on and off social media. It's sad. I mean...

I don't know if I can get into his relationship with his mom. Yeah, let's not talk about that. That type of stuff. Yeah. It's sad.

That's not well, that's one thing we'll leave out. We don't want to talk about people's families because, you know, if we keep it just here and what you guys have gone through, it's your side of the story. And then, like I said, Connor's always allowed to come on. You guys can come on together again. I don't care. Like, you know, I just wanted everybody to feel like it's fair. You know, people wanted me to bring you guys on this podcast and they're like, she better ask them this. And I'm just like, I'm not here to drag people like that's not what I do. And what podcast do you know brings their fucking guests on to fucking berate them and treat them like shit?

Like that's not, I would never do that, you know? So I think you guys just being here telling your side of the story, they can take it. And if they don't like it, they can fucking just write paragraphs on, you know, like, you know, so it doesn't matter. At least you're telling your side of the story, but we'll leave the families out. Okay. So it's still talking about live. I don't know how the hell we keep getting. So she came, I think they're like intertwined. I know. It's just like shit happens. But so we, she came, had a good night the first night. Um,

second night we went out there's a whole table of us taylor taylor holders like his birthday i just recently met taylor he looks like a fucking like a hot cartoon barbie doll yeah it's crazy yeah like it's so weird ah chris is he your next victim someone did post that i'm not joking who did

Oh, God. They literally put, Chris Dank's next victim. It was a picture of me and Taylor. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, no, he's beautiful. No, we're all generally just really good friends. But we went out the second day, and us girls, so me and Wendy talked about this. We were just like, just to avoid the drama, because you genuinely really just wanted to have it. We went out with two other boys from social media that we met. We were trying to avoid everything. But the girls that we went with were trying to hide that they were going to hang out with all the other boys. They left us. And they didn't know. They didn't tell us. We all went up together.

they left us to go to the table and another part of the kb was trying to get us kicked out which doesn't make any sense because it was only 19 years old but it was a really strong i don't think she's been around all of them at the same time it wasn't that was the first time i saw connor since we broke up i had not been around first time i saw rocky how did that make you feel to see connor it it doesn't affect me but i think when we had a conversation um

It was just loud. It was hard. It was loud. There was, I would say yelling, but it was just music playing. He was like, like he told you, and you can cut up this if you want, but he was just like, you made me want to kill myself, screaming that in my face. And I was like,

He told me that too. And I don't think we need to cut that. I think we need to, that needs to be a huge part of this is that, you know, men go through things emotionally. And that's why I still think Connor has feelings for you because he loved her. Yeah. Like he, when they first, and that's nothing to laugh at. Like we're not laughing at him for that at all. You know, like he love is love. You can't help who you love. Right.

When they were first arguing, like, he was at my house. Yeah. Crying to me. And, like, I hadn't been close with her. So, like, I saw both sides and how, like, it would frustrate her that he was upset. So then she would, like, you know, react to what he would say. And it would go back and forth. And he would sleep on my couch for a few days. And I was like, Kristen...

You either need to tell him to go home or you need to fix it because she didn't want to be with him anymore. I did. She didn't know how to tell him because he would freak out. Right. And it was on me because he was... And that's not fair because that's a form of manipulation. Yes, it was. When we broke up the first... He wouldn't leave my house. First time we broke up, he drove from Georgia because we lived, we did long distance. He drove from Georgia to Florida at like three in the morning and was like knocking on my door while I was sleeping. And I was like, Connor, I can't, I can't do this. This is exactly why.

He didn't do anything wrong the first time we broke up. I just... You know when you just like emotionally detach yourself from someone? That's how I felt. I was just... I couldn't do it. It was exhausting. Like emotionally exhausting. I hate to break it to you guys, but you're going to go through probably 10 more fucking relationships. You know? Well, yeah. And I hope you do because you're going to get married one day and fucking that's that. You know, have all the fun you can have now and don't worry about... If love...

It happens. It'll happen organically, you know, and you'll know when it's the right time and when you're meant to be with somebody. You know, you guys literally are 22. How old are you? You're 24, 22 and 24. I did younger and it's so bad. Yeah. They're always so awful. Yeah. Like you guys have, there's so much living to do still that you guys have.

It's okay to break up with people. Yeah, that was the first night I saw him since the second time we broke up. We've only gotten back together once, but that was like months after. We just kept slandering each other on social media, so it was just constantly conversation. But it was blocked. They never actually communicated. I have not... Since the day me and him broke up, I have not had a separate enclosed conversation. A lot of people think that we do. You guys will eventually when he's able to do it emotionally. I think you guys will be able to sit down. So then I saw him. He was yelling at me. He started crying, and I was like, I just...

It's like, whatever. And then Rocky came up to me. And at the time, I still... Fucking Rocky. I know. He's like, it's always Rocky. I know. But he fits into it because it's part of it. And I still was like, kind of over him. But like, at the same time, like, maybe... Say it now. What was it? Oh, gosh. Was that... They got together after that multiple times. Multiple times? No, once. It was at the... It was at the... No. No.

Oh, shoot. What else? When? After that. He lived at your house, though. Not from Nashville? No, I never got with him in just that one night. I'm cheating, actually. You know what I'm saying? I know. Okay, so anyway, so he came up to me. He's like, I love you. And I'm like... Rocky's saying this. Yeah, I was like... Connor walks away crying. Yeah, Connor walks... This all literally happened in like five minutes. Are Connor and Rocky friends? Yes.

Because of... Whatever. That's not my thing to say, but... But he sees his homie crying over you and he walks up to you and says, I love you. He does not give a shit. About anything. They wanted to look like... They wanted to come against me. They wanted to hurt me so bad. They really do. They became friends. Friends. Shortly after, me and Rocky kind of, like, ended things. And him, KB, and Rocky all were, like... It was for Rock the South, I want to say it was. And they became...

All of a sudden, best friends probably sucking each other soft, I'm sure. While it's soft. While it's... Sorry, I'm going to say it. Sucking while it's soft. Sucking it while it's soft. It's crazy. But they wanted it to hurt me so bad. And it truly did. I was so over all three of them. And I'm like, that's ridiculous. That's a lot, you know, to deal with. And they say very hurtful things. Whereas when we come back at them, it's like a joke. Like...

Like Sid the Sloth. Like that's fucking hilarious. Like Rocky looks like Sid the Sloth. I don't even know who that is, but I could only imagine. Ice Age from Ice Age.

Oh my god That thing The one with the teeth Uh huh Oh my god That is so fucking funny Mimi's over here Losing it He knows it And he was even that For Halloween this year So like that's how we joke Them It's straight up like No Try to pick you up Sex with her is terrible Her pussy stinks She doesn't Connor literally said the other day I came up with my for you page She's saying that I Still to this day Said that I don't wash myself Connor said this I'm very unhygienic

i mean you me in the shower while i was washing myself i don't know i mean seriously that's genuinely like how it is that's just immaturity on his it's very sad because that's saying like they're small it still bothers them it just bothers me that connor comes to me crying about mental health and um but you know being bullied and stuff like that very disrespectful but to say that about a woman is very damaging and harmful you know and that could really hurt your feelings too

It's just sad because that's how they choose to talk about women. I gave Rocky a place to stay. Yeah. For a very long time. No charge of anything. And he was disrespectful. I didn't have him. Never a thank you. Never even received a... Do you have parents? Does Rocky have parents? Yes. His dad passed away. Mom...

I don't know. Mom's here. Mom's here. I think he lives with mom. Yeah. I don't know about now, but... I think he lives here now. Mom's here. Dad passed away. The mom is so sweet. She really is. Yeah. But he did grow up... I think the reason... Honestly, I've never really talked about this. The reason why I was so like...

I guess in love with him or had a lot of feelings was because I was emotionally attached to him. I saw him cry in my bed and in my arms about family. I saw, he's told me everything he went through in his life growing up very hard. Him and Jay saw us, his other best friend. It's really sad to see how social media has completely changed his mindset. From the day you all started hanging out too.

very genuine kid he really he really is yeah so you know the different the other rocky i do and anyone of his old friends will say that yeah all of them i literally had them reach out to me dming me hey i know you don't know me but i'm rocky's hometown friend i'm sorry that he treated you like this or i'm sorry that whatever and it's really sad because i'm the type of person like she said she's the type of person i want to fix someone i want to be like i did that i turned him around do you think you were more emotionally attached to rocky than you were to connor

And that's why it was like easier for you to break it off. Because we were the same people. We had the same personality. I mean, we joked around like it was nothing. And I absolutely just... He made me laugh all the time. Yeah. He really did. And I know I made him laugh whether he wants to admit it or not. But it was such a toxic thing. It wasn't like something that... I shouldn't even be smiling. It was so toxic that it was so sad that I... It was my fault. I went back. I don't even...

He lived with me, though, so it was, like, easy. And he has... He said he was bored. He was bored, so that's why he had sex with me. I'm not saying that. I enjoyed it. I thought... Right. I genuinely had feelings for him. Yeah. And...

I know at one point he did too, whether he wants to admit it or not. Well, that's what I was going to say. Because we've had separate conversations off the internet. Yeah. Well, I mean, his homie's walking away crying and he's walking up to you saying, I love you. He went on vacation with me and my family. Yeah. I don't think that if he was just bored, he would do that. Right. For sure. Take me out, go swim with dolphins. I mean, that's so cute. Do you still have feelings for Rocky?

No. Not at all. 100%. I would say that truthfully. Yeah. No. Just because there's too much hurt. It's disgusting. Too much. It's really disgusting how I sat back and let myself get treated like that. And how long were you guys together off and on? Since January. February. February probably. Of this year? Mm-hmm. Till October? August. August. August. So it was like, but he was sleeping with other people. I didn't sleep with one other person while I was sleeping with him. Mm-hmm. He slept with me.

many people. Yeah. We've seen it. I mean, he's a young boy. He is. And he's gonna enjoy his life. Yeah, he's gonna fuck everybody. He thinks he's hot. And even if you guys are sleeping with other people too, it's just like... No, and I'm not saying it's wrong because we weren't together technically, but it's still so like mentally, it fucks with you so bad. Yeah. Because your option, I hate that.

It does. And he made me feel like he liked me at one point. And then he'd go sleep with his ex. And then he'd go fuck a girl for content. And then come back and be like, no, I really do like you. Yeah, we just discovered that fucking Connor had an OnlyFans. Only because we're doing research for this thing that I'm going to tell you about when we're off the camera. And I was like...

How is he talking shit about everybody when he's got an only fans? I was like, holy shit. You know, like this is crazy. But, you know, I, you know, to each their I have an only fan, so I'm not talking shit. But I'm just saying like probably have an only fans. Yeah. But I'm just saying like, you know, the judgment runs high, you know, for certain things that the hypocrisy. OK, so moving on from Connor and Rocky, are you in live friends still or no?

Um, we really haven't hung out after that national trip because she ended up kissing Rocky, which... Oh. Yeah, we never got back to that. She kissed Rocky that one night. He did it on purpose right in front of my face. Grabbed her, made out with her, whatever. Didn't hurt me because I was honestly over him. Right. But I was still like, what the fuck? It was just more of like, you know... But then it was... And then I looked back at him like, I guess I did that to her in a way. So I didn't really give a fuck. It was like, she knew I was upset. Not upset. She knew she felt like she did something wrong, which she didn't do anything wrong, but she...

felt like she did so she never let a guy come in between a friendship and that's i think that's where i was like what the fuck because we literally that night we hung out for the first time after everything happened we had a conversation about everything we're like i genuinely cannot believe we let two boys the size of my arm get in the way of our friendship and that was truthful and we apologized and we had a whole long conversation so when that happened i was just like was she drunk i

She doesn't drink like that. I mean, she could have been. Like I said, like Whitney said, they left us. Right. And went and hung out at the table where we weren't invited, all of them. So even if she was drunk, whatever, I'm not upset. I'm not mad. I don't care. I mean, I was over it. I don't know if you've seen the video of me crying in the bathroom on the floor. I did. So it was from that night. I had that happen. And Rocky told me he loved me. And then Connor told me that he wanted to kill himself.

because of me and then I had KB taking us out I feel like KB is always in the mix somehow he's not even relevant I seriously he tries to put himself in it to make him seem like it yeah I've known him for years and he's not he's not acting like that until recently you guys know this is all gonna blow over the older you guys get you guys will all end up being friends again and probably

And probably some of you guys will end up fucking again. And like, it's all like, you guys are just in the thick of it right now. And there's, you guys will just end up growing up together, you know? And it's just, it's just part of you guys' journey and part of your path. Whitney, where does all this,

play for you i feel like i'm just here i know i'm like i know what's whitney doing individually just separate from her so like i'm not i don't hate anybody i don't like dislike anybody and i haven't been with any of them right i have talked to them i think before her like me and connor like

flirted before they dated me and KB but like I never ended up like I never met Connor till her right and then after I was just like I don't like the way that they treated her yeah so I mean I I like have her back and stuff I just don't you just don't get involved in the drama like

She does. We instigated. Krista's head went, Meryl? I'm an instigator, definitely. We do. But I just don't like, I listen to what a bestie does, you know? I just respond. Because I know that my comebacks are funny, so I'm like, I gotta use this. I got to. I'm the one that made up so this long.

I mean, it's hilarious. And they don't like it at all. Every time that I would post something or whatever, he would always like, but he could post. Right. Like, you're not going to do that to my friend. There's a lot of hypocrisy going left, you know. Take it if you're going to be stupid. And that's why they didn't want Whitney coming on the podcast when you asked them. They wanted Liv because Liv is such a pleaser for everyone. She gets along with everyone. She wants everyone to like her, which is not a bad thing. Yeah.

I don't care if everybody in the world hated me, but my mom or her, I wouldn't care. They would have been saying something sideways and she's going to say something or I'm going to say something and they know we were going to do that. So that's why they did not want her to podcast with us. I mean, you guys have the right to stand up for yourselves. Oh, I'm not going to let dweebs. I mean, seriously. Be nice. All right. So can we talk about what the fuck is up with Fly Soldier and you?

And I just need to clear the air because hold on a second. I saw somebody sent me a live where he said I invited him on the podcast. That's a lie. I can read our DMs right now. Well, everything he usually says, it comes out of his mouth. No, but he was showing our DMs. It isn't really usually him talking. He was showing our DMs, but he didn't let anybody read them. So I'm going to read them to you. I love it. He was dating my friend MJ, my girl MJ. She's...

She's MJ fresh. They were together. Anyways, they were beefing. This is like back in April. MJ was coming on the podcast and he said that he wanted to come on the podcast. And I'm like, cool. If fucking Island boy wants to come on, he can come on with you is what I said. I never invited him by himself and never put it in writing. Um,

Anyways, April 5th, they were beefing and he said, MJ's good. I got her. Trust me. She's with me. I'm good. I said, take care of my baby, please. That's all I said. He said, I will. And that's it. Never once asked him to come on the podcast. Nothing. So that's a fucking lie. Whatever he said. So I just wanted to clear the air. I don't like how that I like his baby mama. Toxic fairy can come on. I love that she's holding it down and fucking raising his kid without him. I think that's amazing.

amazing yeah so yeah never invited him on the podcast do not care to have him once so you went live with him one random time i was in michigan uh i don't even know why i was at home but i was at home he invited me to go live with him i was on live just chilling in my bed or whatever and we talked thought he was freaking hilarious but then he would just like he's very he's very abusive to women it's um i think i will talk shit because i've seen it like you never know what you're gonna get when you're talking

Have you met him in person? No, I haven't. But I have been on FaceTime and gone through so much shit with MJ when he has just done the most fucked up shit to her. I don't know their side of their relationship. I have met him. He came to Miami. Actually, he lives there. And off camera, I'll be honest, like,

a very sweet genuine person and now i'm not just i'm not putting against what he's done to women i can yeah yeah 100 see that he has said some very rude things to mean whitney made 300 pounds i said it's just like weird like he'll go from like being really sweet to like really just he went to her birthday thing miami and he was cool he was very sweet when no cameras are around he was so sweet he didn't as soon as he left

right on live and talking i'm talking anything that he can say about us he said well not me but her it was really sad i was like dude we should like no issues no drama like literally nothing happened um but i just think he is a he literally said well he takes a lot of xanax so he probably doesn't realize what's going on he's really barred out you think yeah have you seen him take xanax no he's oh yeah he doesn't do drugs or anything no he does i i

It's not that hard. Yeah. I think he's gone through a lot in his life. That's what he says. But I also don't think he knows what the fuck he's doing. Yeah. He has a child that's absolutely freaking adorable. Flexes so much money and it's just like... We don't say anything about money unless someone obviously asks us. Yeah. But it's like, you're wearing two watches. Do you know what time it is? Yeah, but he'll fight with his baby mom.

But he'll fight. I can't even read them and he just wears them. Definitely was waiting for the digital clock to come in the center of it. But he'll fight with his baby mama on live and she'll say that he doesn't support them and fucking he like holds money over her. MJ isn't his baby mama? No. So he, Toxic Fairy, I don't know her. Was before? Is MJ the darker haired one and then...

yes beautiful woman yeah mj's gorgeous i was like and she's cool as fuck like she's online she might seem a little like oh no she would i think she made a post about me one time because he made it seem like i was talking shit about her on a live and i was like girl i literally said i remember i was at my friend gavin's house she was in the live or someone was talking about her and i literally looked up her instagram and i was like

How did you pull that? How did he pull her? I said the same thing whenever she told me she was dating him. I was like, Oh God, because she's like my little sister, you know? And so she always hits me for advice. She's my little Virgo too. So she just, I love her to death. And you know, just like you guys, I love seeing the younger generation just do the fucking thing. You know, like to me, that just makes me so happy. And when she told me she was dating him, I was like, why?

what is happening? I was like, please. He's also like two feet tall. Yeah. Well, I literally was bench press and his hair does add like three inches. So you never hooked up with fly soldier. Oh my God. No. Oh my God. God. I mean, MJ did. And she already knows how I feel about that. But, um, so did you have sex? Did you have sex on live? Oh,

Fuck, I knew this was going to come up. So, no, and I don't know how the hell that even came about. We were on vacation with my family. That was the time we were on vacation with my family. That was the night that Liv... That was the night that Liv went... That was the night that Liv... We went to Disney, I think. We went to Universal with my family. That was the night that Liv had...

went on uh live and just completely berated me and shit like that but no we were just chilling on live um he was like touching me who was it rocky yeah yeah but we did not full-on just i saw the video because whenever she had said that we she found the video for me because i was like let me see the video you know because i don't know i've asked her like personally behind the scenes like

Oh, I can tell me. Yeah. No, I was like, I would have told her grabbing you. That's what I said. That's what I said. It looks like he was like behind you. Yes. He's probably like, we're literally in the shower and she's like, no, like you can tell me. I'm like, when,

Whitney I swear to god I do not have sexual intercourse on live because she's like not she's like weird about like where she does it like she doesn't just go out in public I don't even do explicit content on OnlyFans to the point where like I would just start fucking someone on live right at all I would not do that I mean at least if you're gonna do that get a motherfucking bag baby that's literally what I said when I saw that post being made I was like

I get paid for that shit. Yeah. I saw the video and I even told her. I was like, they're not fucking. You know, I've had sex on the phone. Like, you could tell she's, like, laughing. And then they made a stop. But, like, I know how rocky he is. He's, like, very sexual. So many people asking that, too. And they're like, did you? Fuck. I'm like, no. Yeah, evidently that was, like, a big controversy. And I saw the video. No, it was. It was a big thing. I saw the video and I was like, these motherfuckers will literally take the smallest thing. And they're saying I was doing it with someone that was, um...

Mentally disabled on there. I was like, I don't even know who I was on live with at the time. Yeah, let's talk about that. I guess there's a huge thing where they said that you were talking about mentally disabled people or something like that. Did we ever see that video? No? It wouldn't come up? No, that was the racist one. Oh. I guess they were saying that you were making fun of people with disabilities or something? They will say. I genuinely have never...

done that my mom and sister both work with um impaired children at a at a school and i've never i i know i'm pretty dumb but i also know my limits on and off social media i know that i'm would never speak negatively on that so no i believe i've just they come up with the fucking craziest shit dude what about the racism thing i'm homophobic but my best friend is african-american i've it

It's incredible. I feel like everybody can be like saying stuff constantly about racism and like the things that you say or whatever. I got called a racist for saying trap house.

like it was just crazy to me um i'm an animal uh killer because my hamster died it wasn't even her hamster actually what happened with the hamster situation because that was a question on her too be for real actually i was like i was gonna be like please tell me you did not starve the hamster yeah seriously but no she wasn't even i didn't start she was literally at my house most of the time and it started in michigan the hamster had food the hamster had water

The hamster was well taken. Okay. The hamster was taken care of. Now, we obviously went on vacation certain times, but like the hamster didn't, we didn't just sit there and just let the thing rot. Right. I'm not, I don't know where people would come up with that. Genuinely. But I didn't just, I didn't just like, yeah, I'm going to choose to kill you today. Yeah. Just not feed you. Right. But yeah. We just, honestly, we just joke around a lot.

Waited too many times at the times when we're supposed to be serious. Right. But you know, Kelsey, perfectly Kelsey was on here yesterday. She's so cute. She's adorable. And she's actually really cute in person too. Don't tell her that though. I accidentally was like, you know, you're so cute in person because online you're not. And then I was like, you know, that sounds terrible. Let me not say that. But she was telling me why she had gotten canceled and she got canceled for naming a fucking flower Shaniqua, you know? And to me, it's just like,

The world is so sensitive. And it's like, if you have any sort of a little bit of a personality, it's cancel these people. 100%. Because you're not allowed to be a smartass. You have to be serious about everything. Like, I feel like everybody on the planet fucking ate glue as children. Like, something... Picked wall paint with their fingers off the wall. Dude, I made a video on TikTok of, which I've seen so many people do, of the faucet being on, and you hold a towel, and you have to get the towel around the faucet. Yeah. Waste of water. Yeah.

You know, kids everywhere need water. I'm like, yes, I know that. I'm so sorry. No, but me and her, that's why we're hated so much but loved so much because we don't care. Can't get canceled if you don't care. I've been trying to get canceled. Homophobic. Racist. We know the truth. We know we're not like that. Right. Why do they think you guys are homophobic? I mean, I'm... Oh, no, they think that we... What's the word? What's the... Lesbian fish or what's the...

I don't know where some word that because we okay first of all I find her obviously like hella attractive like she's my best friend. Have you guys ever hooked up? No. No. We make out. We don't actually anymore because like my ex like at the time like we would kiss and he'd get like really upset so I just. I don't like her ex so I'll do it again but. But like never like I mean. I think men who get

upset when friends are kissing or that's a red flag. Yeah. I'll kiss... The thing is, I love kissing. When I have girls, 100%. But it's not like in a sexual way. Like, I'm not going to go home with one if that makes sense. I have no hate against... Like, she's literally hooked up with a girl and like I...

have just it's not my interest but i'm never going to shame absolutely anyone ever for having that interest that's just not me i love gay people yeah all my like basically all my friends are gay hilarious i love them it's like i don't see them any different and i grew up in a very christian household where is my and we support it whole i'm like please date women over men like if i think honestly if i didn't meet another girl that i was like it's it's not even like

Is it a girl? Is it a guy? I don't care. But it's just like the way that we click together. Like if I am treated the way that I want to be treated, I'm going to be with a girl if I want to be with a girl. If somebody makes you feel good, it doesn't matter what their gender is. 100%. I agree. Love who you want to love. Everyone has their own opinions and everything, but don't ever let them affect you. 110%, my girlfriend, in the beginning when we were dating, has treated me better than anybody has ever treated me. Aw. Would you guys ever get back together again?

We were on and off a little bit. It was more like I was still in high school, so I was back and forth between, like, my sexuality a little bit. So, like, she was also – we were both getting big, so it was, like, how they were – Do we know – are you – Her name is Michelle Lundy. Okay. I don't know. Do you know who she is? She – yeah. She got canceled a while ago, too. She – What'd she get canceled for? Being racist. Oh, my God. Yeah, so –

Which she's not either. But... Yeah. Words came out and they took it the wrong way. So I just think that... I don't know. Girl... I love girls too. So... She's like, maybe. Possibly. If you guys down the road... I just had a really bad experience. Yeah. She was...

She was back and forth like with drugs and her body like type. And I just saw a lot of things that she would do behind social media that like she made a workout plan. She wasn't working out like it was. And she was making so much money off of it and like finessing the system basically. And I was just like watching it and I was like,

you don't even do those things and you're selling these plans to people and making them think that they are gonna lose this weight by starving themselves or by like, it was really bad. But she was like losing weight.

through Vyvanse and Adderall. And I'm like really big against drugs. Like do drugs if you want to do drugs, but I have never, I have smoked weed, but I will not touch a drug in my life. Good, good. Like I'll have a headache all day and it will take me as much to take an Adderall. Like if she gives it to me, I'll take it, but like I will not take anything. I'm the same way. That's how I am. Yeah. And I have to see where the pills come from before I swallow them.

I have insanely bad anxiety with pills and swallowing them even. Do you guys battle any mental illness or depression, anxiety, stuff like that? I know you said you were pretty stable. It hasn't hit you like that? Yeah. I've never been depressed. I think, honestly, I probably should probably see a doctor. I think I'm bipolar. Yeah. But it doesn't really affect me. Like, I'm sad at times, but never like...

You think you're bipolar because do you have like manic mania and stuff like that? But I think that it's like... She's really bad at... She thinks everything stresses her out. She's really bad at doing... There's something has to be done. More than one thing has to be done. At the same time, I freak out. But I take it out on like my friends. And like it doesn't affect me because I'll just be like...

You know, I mean, why the fuck are you talking to me like that? But... I have a really bad attitude. But I also know that it, that is how she is as a person. So I can work with it. But sometimes I'll realize it and I'll step back. I'll call my mom. Like, I probably should see a doctor or something. She's like, yeah, well, you need to get blood work done or whatever. But I'll notice it and then I'll cry about it for a second because I'm like, I'm treating my friends like really bad. And like, I don't know how to handle it. And like, she'll just be like, just like chill out. Like...

Just like, cause I have, I hired my best friend, my assistant and she, I basically just put everything on her and it's helped me a lot. So yeah, I was just like my brain just necessarily bipolarness. I think it might just be, you just get overwhelmed very easily and then you lash out. So,

I get like that sometimes too. Like if there's a lot going on, I fucking freak out. I freaked out on Mimi in the car when we were driving. Whenever you're reading those text messages, I was like, just keep reading. Yeah. Cause I was under stress, you know? So I don't, I don't know if that's would be considered bipolar, but you know, always get blood work done. You know, my brother was diagnosed. Oh, was he? So, Oh, okay. With Tourette's and bipolar. Oh,

Yeah. And manic depression. So it's like, I don't know if it runs in the family. Yeah. Get your blood work done. It's always good to get checked. What about you? Do you battle that stuff? Very... I'm doing...

she's incredibly so much better now but um she can't sleep that's the one thing i have really bad restless legs i can't sleep horrible but like sleeping meds like i don't even deficiency yeah i don't start working out more is what she needs i don't i don't like smoking i don't like the way it makes me feel i don't like anything that makes me feel like an out-of-body experience like the sleeping meds they put me on my therapist um

I took it once. I hated it. Yeah. So I can't sleep at all for shit. I really can't sleep. And when she does go to sleep, she sleeps like, if I don't wake her up, she'll sleep all day. Yeah. But when I first moved to Florida, it was about. That's a form of depression though too. Oh, 100%. I struggle. I struggle. I really do struggle really bad. And she does try to help me a lot. I'm really stubborn too when it comes down to it. But then she has FOMO a little bit when I'll go and do stuff. Like I'll go to the mall.

i want to go like she's like it's it's getting better yeah like i'll have to tell her like you're going to the gym with me she'll get up and go yeah that's good for your mental health too it really is she's helped me a lot but about two months before i moved to florida um so

Near August, I just started getting really bad panic attacks, but I didn't know what it was. I do have heart problems. I do take metoprolol. It's nothing crazy. I just have a really high heart rate just normally. You were just born with that? Yeah, it runs in my family. That could have a lot to do with your anxiety. I think it does because I didn't like I could feel my heart rate speeding up and then I'd have a panic attack, but I didn't realize I had anxiety. But I didn't want to believe it because I was so mad at my cardiologist for like being like, it could be anxiety. I'm like,

no like please there's something wrong with me and so they finally listened and then I finally still had like these panic attacks at the time I didn't know what they were I couldn't drive I didn't drive for probably six months yeah I did not drive at all I could not get into a car her car would just sit in the park like but like I've never been like that I've always loved to drive loved long trips I've loved traveling all that type of stuff it was like gradually though she would like pull to the side of the road and be like I need help I should call us I just like someone come pick me up I can't make it I get it at night like going through like intersections I'm like oh my god

Yeah. I hate driving at night. And I couldn't, I literally could not like leave my house. I, she was there one time when I went to a, I would literally have to like, I would, I wouldn't even tell her I was coming. I would just come pick her up, like get in the car. I finally couldn't, I couldn't take it anymore. And I went to a therapist, got on Lexapro, took about three months. I went and stayed in Michigan for like, not three months, sorry, three weeks. I went and stayed for Michigan with my family until the medicine kicked in because I felt so,

I felt so lonely. I felt horrible. And a lot of it has to do with how I have been treated in the past and how I've gone through a lot in social media and stuff like that.

I just felt like, I know I'm not alone, but like I felt so alone. Felt singled out. Yeah, for sure. Do you feel better now? Are you still on Lexapro? I'm still, I will not probably not stop taking that. It has helped me so much. It really does. I'm on the highest dose. I'm on my heart medication. I'm straight Sean. I really am. It's wonderful. I can travel. I can do anything. Um,

So it's wonderful. It really has helped a lot. That's amazing. Yeah. So dating. Are you guys dating anybody right now? Are you guys both single? Single as fuck. Single. I have a few options, but there is one that I could see myself with, but he's on social media. Yeah, boy. Good. What is your type, Kristen?

Okay. So I do. Because you know everybody's listening right now. And now that they know you're single, that you guys are single, they're going to want to know you guys' sex. No, all the guys hate me. I mean, all of them. Shut up.

Pussy stinks, apparently. God. It doesn't, by the way. I would know. Come take a whiff. I would know. I sleep with her and I'm with her and take showers. Some of their friends would know. No, you can smell a dirty pussy. 100%. You can smell a dirty pussy through pants. I've had a few friends. I mean, seriously. Anyways. It's disgusting. I'm going to need help with my type. My type, okay, I definitely love the brown haired light eyes. 100%. Me too. But also,

obviously like abs but like i don't care about that but like it's just hot to look at obviously but i mean i don't give a shit personality 100 i know i'm really easygoing really freaking hilarious especially with her if they don't have like a personality like talking to a brick wall just don't even talk to me yeah you just want someone to make you laugh yes i take anybody that can make me laugh over fucking abs any day any day yeah any day 100 but what about you whitney

I've had a few different. I think I have two sides. I have the fisherman like handyman. Because I have my own house. So if we start hanging out, take me on dates, whatever, that's fine. But if you come to my house and you're fixing shit,

Getting the turn on. I'm saying like the washers are going to come in and nothing's going to be wrong with your house. And they're just like, let me fix your fridge for you. But if you're like, if you see me like cleaning and like, like struggling, fixing something, you're just sitting there like, yeah, call your dad. I'm like,

Really? You're not my husband. Yeah. But my other type would be country boys, like hunting. Yeah. Just dudes that got their hands dirty, that can get their hands dirty. Very respectful. I'm having a hard time finding respectful people.

Men. It's sad. See how these people... Do you guys stay older, younger? What do you guys like? I like baby face. You like baby faces. Baby faces. I don't like facial hair. I like both. Like sometimes like if it's like cleaned up like well, like it looks good. I like baby faces too. But I'm a baby face person. Yeah. I like clean shaved sometimes like...

I've only dated... Okay, I kind of dated... I would say, like, 28 was the oldest, and then 25, and I had a really bad experience with them. I don't really date it older. I mean, I guess Connor was older than me by eight days before.

But I've never actually been on like a real date. So I never really like dated David. Oh, you need somebody to take you on a real date. I've never had someone. We're basically dating them. I feel like dating is so fucking weird, though. You have to sit across the table from each other and just chew. Like, it's just weird. Like, who wants to see another? Like, take me to something fun. The arcade is the move.

Yeah. Or Busch Gardens. But the thing is, me and Whitney together, I mean, separately too, but like, we're really good at like just engaging in conversations, being very out there. Like, I won't make you feel awkward. I'm going to probably make fun of you at first. Yeah. But I'm hoping you do the same to me. Will either of you date Caden? The silence was so strong. I love his personality. Um,

he's um i think that i think that i could i think that i could but i don't i don't yeah i would see him as a friend right now yeah i'm not really looking at the moment i'm like so emotionally detached from like men yeah way but i used to what about jayden which one uh armor yeah

He's a cutie pie, right? He's so cute. He is. Have either of you hooked up with him? No. I don't think he's like that either. He's like the type that doesn't hook up with people in the group. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Okay. Gotcha. But he's...

He's probably got a lot of options. I'm sure you guys do too, though. You know, like you guys aren't looking really outside of your group right now because you guys are dealing with a bunch of bullshit. But I'm sure there's so much love for you guys online too that outweighs the bad. It just sucks that we pay attention to the bad, you know? It does because it's always there and it's hard to focus on the positive when you're constantly just being brought down by the negative. Yeah, absolutely. But you guys do have a lot of people who fucking love the shit out of you guys. Like...

you know don't ever think that just because those people over there are fucking miserable there's millions and millions of more people that are really invested in you guys a story and are like fascinated by you guys you guys are like role models for girls your age right now you know so that's why everybody's watching you guys as every fucking move how does that feel that's got to be like pretty heavy on your shoulders i don't know we we don't really even think about it sometimes like we just post to post and just and then we realize that when we go out in places that like we

we really do get noticed everywhere we go and we love it. We really do. And we know that we do have a big impact on a lot of women because I know a lot of women have gone through the same shit I've gone through except off social media. I haven't gone through it like with the boys. I haven't gone through anything traumatic with them like something that people are like, how did you do it? No, it's just a simple breakup. He cheated on me. He treated me like shit. Talked like that. Mentally abusive. Verbally abusive. Everyone goes through that in some form of relationship. But to see it unfold on social media, how we react, how they react...

It does. It makes people open their eyes and be like, I never want to go through something like that. And this is how they cope through it. This is what I should not do. We should not go on social media and make a fool out of ourselves and stuff like that. So people learn a lot of stuff through our mistakes in life. And I think that's so cool. But I also think that people don't understand that we're willingly putting ourselves out on social media to be judged. But also that we are going to make mistakes. So...

But I think it's really cool that I didn't think I'd be known or had people come up to me and all of garden last night, we're shoving breadsticks in our face. And someone's like, Oh my gosh, it's just, it's so cool though. It really is. And my parents love it. They love when I go out and they're like,

Oh, my mom's in the drama. They're so invested. Your mom is in the drama? Oh, my God. Both of our parents are like, give us a tea. Yeah, like, who's here? Who do you like today? Are they on the website? Do they read the website? Oh, I don't know if my mom does. My mom does. She hates it. She's always like, are you okay? I'm so in love.

post my mom i haven't looked at today don't worry about a girlfriend i'm good yeah they're in it they see everything moms are so invested into it but they support you guys you know like have your backs and stuff that's amazing they're like you're old enough to make your own decisions you're gonna do what you're gonna do if you can handle it do it yeah you guys are totally supporting yourselves whitney you said you have your own house right so you guys are making money off of social media correct and off your only fans and stuff like that how is only fans for you guys

great great never had to complain i don't you don't even go on it like um our assistant we have an assistant they make it doesn't well you're a management whatever yeah yeah so awesome love that so it's just doing great for you guys well what does 2023 hold for you guys we got a new year coming up do you guys have any goals that you want to accomplish next year

I want to start my merch and one day hopefully open up a clothing like business or like line or something like that because I know I can do really well with that with the interactions I have on social media. Yeah, for sure. What about you, Ed? I want to open a doggy bar. Aw, you're doing it. I have four dogs at home. Yeah, I saw them. They are so cute. They're so freaking cute. I love dogs. I love animals. I love...

taking care of animals like but i i mean drinking and dogs it's a great combination okay so you want like people to be able to go to the bar hang out and then just have dogs there i'm also gonna say it is a lot of her as well um a lot of um what's the word i don't know the word

You know, like, because if dogs fight or, like, drinking. Insurance. Insurance. That's right. Liability. Yep. Liability. There we go. I also want to make a goal for her as well. Her singing. She's amazing at singing. I want her to perform. Can you sing something for us? Mm-hmm.

She's like, no. She's really amazing at it. Thank you. I want her to perform. I try. You got to do it. Strike while the iron's hot, too, while you have all these eyes on you. Start doing it. They just made a song, so whenever that comes out, it's going to do really well. And she's performing it, so. Yay. I just don't know a lot of the music, like a lot of people that do music. Yeah, but I don't know how to reach out. You know what I mean? I have obviously friends and stuff that sing, but.

He just reached out. You know what? Just start dropping your shit on TikTok. That's all you need to do. First, just start dropping it and building a fan base on TikTok and then go from there. You'll figure it out. Trust me. It'll figure it out for you. I'm going to see how this song does and let's go from there. Well, I'm excited to hear it. Why don't you guys shout out your socials where if people aren't following you, they can know where to find you and shout out your OnlyFans too. Can I grab my phone to do that? Of course. Because I don't think I know my handle for that one. Mine is WhitneyRen1. Basically on everything. Yeah. So...

No, mine's Kristen Whitman as well. My Instagram is Kristen underscore Whitman.

my only fans is Kristen underscore woman as well actually so gotcha feel free to subscribe yeah go subscribe babies well I am so happy that you guys came by and I can't wait to see what you guys do you know in these next coming years like I'm really excited to see what you guys do with your brand and stuff like that so thank you guys for coming on the podcast anytime I'll come back tomorrow 100% I'll bring you guys back every year I bring back my guests every year just to have them come check in and just see the growth and all

all that and the journey we want to follow the journey and you guys have enough motherfuckers invested so absolutely you'll definitely want to know what you're up to thank you guys though thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of dumb blonde I will see you guys next week bye