Carly Gregg: Honor Roll to Homicide
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I'm so excited. Well, all right. So we just got done doing a meet and greet. It was so much fun. We are in, where are we? Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, baby. And we are just smack dab in the middle of tour. Coming in hot. Coming in hot, baby. It's been a brutal month. Yeah. We had a day off yesterday and-

We got suspended at the beach, but someone was sick. I almost died because I took trizepatide this week, and we'll talk about that on another podcast. Go listen to Ask, Tell, Confess. We just went through that. Yeah, well, I didn't tell my whole story, though. So on another Ask, Tell, Confess, I'll definitely tell you guys the whole story of what's happening. But anyways, so who are we talking about today? So today, this is actually a recent case that

I mean, how recent really was this? It's very recent. Like within what? The last year. Yeah. Carly Gregg has been on everyone's For You pages, I'm sure, because that video. I mean, you never really get the amount of video that this has. Like I'm when I dove into this case, the amount of security footage that she did not

Take care of? No, it was crazy. I was shocked. So we've got home footage. This happened because she was 14 when it happened and she was 15 when she got convicted. March 19th. So March 19th, 2024.

This just happened. This is so fresh. Yeah, this just happened. And there was a lot to this case that I didn't know via TikTok. So once we actually dove into it and learned about it, I was shocked. I feel like it changed my mind on a couple things. I feel like this is going to be interesting. Yeah, it's definitely interesting because you and I disagree. We do. So I would really like to... So I think you're going to do the first part and I'll do the second half. Yeah, we're going to go into who Carly was as...

a not so typical teen. Carly Gregg was born in Mississippi and she was born to Ashley and Kevin

Kevin was very much an addict, not just of alcohol, but of other drugs. And Ashley did not want Carly to be a part of his life. She fought tooth and nail so that Carly could not have any visitation with him whatsoever. She wanted to take all the rights away from him. He was also physically abusive. To both is what I was told. To both of them. And that right there, I mean, should be grounds for not having your child around him.

Yeah. I completely understand. I do agree with her on taking away rights from him. And it was a long battle between them. So she did actually end up winning custody of Carly. And from there, Kevin disappeared out of Carly's life. He wasn't around and she was there to raise Carly sort of by herself until later on when her mother finds a new love. Carly did grow up incredibly smart and,

They knew at an early age that she was smart. Like ridiculously, like little baby Einstein smart. Yes, the IQ was through the roof. This actually was a part of the story that shook me because I, you know, I don't want to say looking at her, you would think that she wasn't that smart because of what her crime was. But to find out like her ACT scores and like how she got to skip a grade and stuff like that, I was like,

Like, wait a second. How is somebody so smart did something so stupid? Yeah. So sloppy. Sloppy. Sloppy. You know? Sloppy, sloppy. So at the age of 13, she did take the ACTs, like Bunny had mentioned, and she scored a 30, which is, like, equivalent to a 16-year-old.

Yeah. And which then turned the schools to be like, hey, we should probably advance her a little because she is way smarter than any of the kids in her grade and did end up putting her into a grade in which she was

with 15 and 16 year olds. So she felt very isolated because she felt like she couldn't really get along with any of the other kids in her class. She was often made fun of, they said, and that she was teased and also used, incredibly used by her peers because they did know how smart she was. They said that her ACT score was literally six points off of being perfect. Perfect, yes. And so were her grades. Her grades were almost...

almost perfect. They said she was in the high 90s majority of the time. Yeah. So this poor girl is just, I think, too smart for her own good at this point. She also showed not just signs of, like, being so smart, but just quirks. So being that she had an obsession with Swiss knives and violence...

early on. But I think that she probably learned that from growing up in a physically abusive household. Most definitely. She was attracted to violence, which could have been, you know, trauma of like wanting that fatherly love that she never had. That might have been the only fatherly love she knew. Exactly. Exactly.

And that being said, the only time she ever got in trouble was because she brought a Swiss knife to school one time. She was actually pulled from school, sent to an alternative school temporarily until they did allow her back into the school system. And that was for the Swiss knife, of course. But that's just crazy to me.

She also got in trouble for helping an entire class cheat. Yes. So in 2022, she actually became student of the year. And at that time, her mom had actually began working at her school. So as she started to dabble in this, all of this work,

I guess cheating and those kind of things. Her mom was right there witnessing all of this happening. So she had hacked into the teacher's computer, got all of the answers. And it wasn't that she intended to have the entire class know, but the small group of people she did tell, they told. And then those people told. And then eventually it did get around and someone did snitch and was like, well,

we all got it from Carly. I feel like I sense a child who just wants to be accepted by people around her. Yes. Like somebody who feels like she's never been accepted into one peer group. And that being she is also much younger than her peers at that time. She did become romantic with a fellow student and they

really felt the mom really felt like she shouldn't be i mean she's at this point she's like what 12 13 yeah you shouldn't be romantic with anybody anybody granted my first kiss was when i was 12 but still yeah when was your first kiss they're probably about the same yeah yeah i was with tongue oh yeah i didn't go tongue right away james at the bus stop at the bus stop at the bus stop yeah wow yeah interesting mine was on my friend's bed

God, you little hussy. I was. You're a freaking hussy. Was it just kissing? He just kissed me. His name was Trevor. Trevor. Trevor sounds like a cute boy. I feel like all the cute boys' names were Trevor. Yeah, his name was Trevor. He was like my first like real boyfriend. Oh.

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So... Can't believe she kissed somebody at 12 before me. Mom really wanted... Ashley really wanted Carly to break up with this boy. She didn't feel like it was healthy for them. But...

She just felt the more she pushed her, the more she ran to him. So eventually she did kind of give up and was like, whatever. She saw them at school holding hands even after Carly was like, oh, no, no, we're broken up. You're holding his hand at school. Well, the mom made her break up with him. And that's why she ended up giving up. She just felt like the more she fought, the more Carly would want to run towards him. She caught them, you know, holding hands at school. And eventually she was like, you know, it is what it is. But Carly also had a problem with...

sneaking her phone, getting burner phones. The mom regularly actually went through Carly's phone because of all these troubles that she was showing. And so she would get a burner phone if her phone was taken away or she would have regular checks in which the mom went through her phone to make sure she didn't have any social media. So no TikTok, no Snapchat, none of those things. Mom didn't want her having any type of

you know, something that could get her in trouble. Which honestly, I don't have, Bailey doesn't have any of that. And I don't, I think nowadays having your kids on social media is just a gateway for just a shit storm. It is honestly. Yeah. As much as we are social media, I see the bad side of it. Yeah. For kids. I just don't feel like kids nowadays can handle that much overstimulation. Nope. Nope. They're actually banning a lot of phones right now for schools and stuff. How do you feel about that? Um, I, I'm,

Back and forth about it because if there was ever an emergency, you know, we live in a very bad society in which people are out to harm children. And I would want my child to be able to contact me and tell me that they're safe. I would want my child to be able to call for help. I do feel like maybe...

you know, just put the phone up during class. Yeah. I put them up front. Yeah. Know where your phone is, have access to it. And then, cause I feel like when Bailey had her phone, she was on her phone during school all the time. Yeah. Like her, the most usage she had was during school. I'm like, do you do? And it really affected her grades. And I was just like, D are you working in school at all? Like, what are you doing?

So I really feel like they should turn them into the front of the class, but can see them, have complete access to them if they need them. But I don't have a problem with them kind of... Yeah, phone cubbies. I don't have a problem with them monitoring the kids' usage. Absolutely. I completely agree. I would want my child to have their phone just for safety reasons. Yeah. So...

She didn't have any social media and she had a problem with that because her mom ended up finding that she was dabbling in vaping. And not just nicotine vaping, but weed cartridges, things like that. And it became...

huge in their household with arguments on phones, vaping, all of those kind of things. One of the major arguments between them was that she was also trying to reach out to her biological father. Yeah. So she had gone in one of the checks of going into Carly's phone. She did, um,

find that on a social media app she was attempting to reach out to her biological dad and that there were lots of searches in her webpages for someone with the same name so of course you know she's out there searching for her dad she's got issues yeah well I mean

I don't know if it's issues because I did the same thing looking for my mom when I was growing up. I think it's just a child's natural want to know where she came from or know the other parent, especially because Ashley did have to crack down on Carly because she was kind of a bad kid. So she probably was looking for an out, you know, like that's how kids are at that age. They're super manipulative and they want to go to the fun parent. They don't want to go where there's rules. Yeah. And do we know what point the stepdad stepped into their lives? Mm-mm.

No, I can Google that while you're talking. Okay, yeah, give that a Google real quick. So the mom is constantly battling with Carly over the fact that she is trying to attempt to reach her dad, which I would love to know more about that, honestly. I would like to know if how the mom...

felt about her attempting to reach out to the dad or if the mom was even willing to allow her to have that conversation. Cause I feel like if she really did want to meet with the dad, maybe you reach out to the dad and you, you know, arrange them to have that relationship, even if it was visitation with her there or whatever that is. Another part of her mental health was Carly actually got caught cutting her

So a lot of her friends were concerned about her at school and they had been

communicating with the mom too but they were really concerned because Carly had come out and told them that you know she had been cutting her thighs at the time and that she was not in a good mental headspace her mom had reached out because between the dad the cutting the swiss knives the boyfriend all of these things the mom had reached out to a therapist and signed Carly up to start going to therapy for anxiety and stress and this is where I believe the

in conversation between therapist, doctor, all those kind of things that Carly was placed on a medication. So it doesn't end to pause you right there. It doesn't say when they got together, but Heath released a statement after she was sentenced, which we'll read later and said that him and Ashley had been together almost a decade. So I'm assuming when Ashley, um,

I'm sorry, when Carly was probably around five or six. Okay, so he'd already been a part of her life for... A substantial amount of time. Yeah, so this is the only father figure that she knew. And I don't really know much about the support he had within Carly and Ashley's relationship. And I don't know how much of a role he played in Carly getting help for all of these issues.

Being that she went to therapy for anxiety and stress for a little while, but they did say that her mother did not follow through and eventually she just stopped going. So they just put her on antipsychotics? So then her primary care is who then came back and put her on the antipsychotics. See, this makes me think that there was definitely more going on at home than what is being told because a child is not going to be that...

Because I was an extremely rebellious child, but I was getting abused at home. Yeah. She also said her stepfather sexually abused her. Mm-hmm.

So could this have been going on and maybe this is why Ashley was so strict with her and like, you know, is this why she was acting out? I mean, for a teen to be cutting herself, that's extreme pain that that child is in. Yes. You know, so it's like, what are you trying to release? I get that you grew up in an abusive household from a young age, but I just don't see...

that much you know I don't I see like there's I feel like there's so much more that we're missing a huge chunk of the story that that has not come forward hasn't come out yet you know because this is so fresh and new we talked about that in the beginning there is I'm sure plenty of things that are eventually going to come out involving the stepdad involving Carly like and who knows what role the mother played in all of those she could have known

You know? And just not spoken up. We don't know. We honestly don't know. When Carly turns 18, am I allowed to interview her? Or will that cause an upset in the actual crime world? Or is it because she's not a dude that it'll be okay? It could be. It should be totally fine, right? Carly was placed on antipsychotics.

And which antipsychotics when you're 11 or 12, your brain is still developing. And you guys know how I feel about putting children on medication. Do I think that there are some exceptions to the rule? Absolutely not.

Do I think people, some people really need it? Absolutely. But I also feel like a child's mind is still forming. It's still, you know, you're growing, you're going through so many hormonal changes. Like you are giving a child antipsychotics. You do not know how they're going to react in that child's brain. Yeah, no, literally. And what affects them.

Good and bad is going to have. You're trying to do it just for the good. But like, man, there's so many bad side effects. So many. And I think that's what we actually ended up seeing happen. Because she was on different antipsychotics. And at some point, the doctors were basically like, we don't know what else to do. And that's sort of, if you guys know anything about Lexapro. Lexapro is one of those drugs I truly feel like...

a doctor gets to a point where they're like, I don't know what else is going to help. So we're going to just throw Lexapro at it and hope this just takes care of whatever problem you have. They put you on Lexapro, didn't they? No, I never went on Lexapro. No, I almost refused because it's like it was in discussion, but it was in discussion with other medications.

Lexpro is something I never wanted to put myself on because of the side effects and changes I've seen within people. And I do feel like they're permanent changes. I feel like that truly alters your brain and it makes you almost unhuman, which is what we saw with Carly. Super numb, like unemotional. Exactly. And there were some medications that I remember being on when I was on antidepressants, which made me feel like that. So I could not imagine...

even close to imagine what she went through because I know what that numb feeling feels like. I feel like this is a little girl who was screaming out for help and didn't know how to get it and she just became a product of her environment. Absolutely. And, you know, I,

I don't want to say that I sympathize with her, but I mean, she's a child, dude. How many of us made severe mistakes when we were younger? Granted, we did not kill people. No. And that's not right at all. But, you know, they switched her to this Lexapro and then five days later, what happens? Yes. She kills her mother. Only five days prior was this new medication introduced.

And within those five days, I can guarantee you she never saw anyone to see how she was feeling. Those people throw these medications at you and are like, well, we'll see what happens in a month. I know in those five days you did not go see a doctor. I know in those five days you did not get checkups.

So who knows how she was feeling within those days leading up to this. And do you want to take over? Yeah, I'll take over. So day of day of the murder, you know, everything was normal that day. I think, yeah,

They had just gotten home from school. Was that what it was? Yeah. So she had taken her like a completely normal day because they both went to school together. Mom worked there and the dad leaves shortly after the stepdad. Right. Leaves shortly after them in the morning. And everyone who interacted with them at school that day were like, it was a normal day. Yeah. Like everything was normal. And, you know, when they got home,

Carly went to go walk the dogs. Ashley, her mom, did a check of her room like she normally does.

And she did a check of her room that day because a friend had snitched on Carly and told the mom that day that they were concerned for her because she had began, you know, dabbling in vapes and like was becoming an addict. Like she had to smoke weed every day. She had to have the vapes and all that stuff. So while Carly was out walking the dogs, that was her mom's opportunity to go through her room. She ended up finding four vapes, weed cartridges too, I believe. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So when her mom was going through her room, Carly walks in on her mom searching her bedroom and found that her mother had, you know, found all of her stuff. And I understand how enraging that is as a child because my stepmom used to go through my shit all the time. And it's like, you just feel like you have no privacy. So I guarantee she was just fucking livid. You know, she was just like, does this woman ever fucking leave me alone? You know? So after that had happened,

And Carly's mom was done searching her room. Carly went into her mom's room, which kind of surprises me because where was her mom at that she could go in her room? I'm sure still in Carly's room. Okay. Yeah. So while her mom is still searching her room. Because she said they were kind of in an argument at that point. And it happened so fast. Mm-hmm.

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While Ashley's still doing Carly's room, Carly goes to her mom's nightstand where her mom keeps a 38 special and you can see her on camera and Jason will insert the video here for everybody. You can see Carly walk into her mom's bedroom and then she walks out of her mom's bedroom

hiding the gun behind her back. So obvious. Like, yeah. Like what is that? But that tells me that she wasn't crazy because she knew that there was cameras in the house and she knew to hide the gun. I would think that if you had lost your mind and you were kind of crazy, like,

Granted, I understand she's probably going through a roller coaster of emotions coming off antipsychotics, going on to Lexapro. Yes, and probably numb to everything and not thinking in her right mind, but she wasn't so crazy enough to not realize that there was cameras watching her. We'll get to that part. So Carly walks by the cameras, like we said, with the gun behind her back and

By this time, Ashley, I think Carly had walked around like the kitchen or something like that, too. And by this time, Ashley had gone back into her room and she walks into her mom's room and just cold blooded shoots her in the face three fucking times. Yep. Once in the once in her chin and twice in the middle of her face. Like, first of all, how does that child have such good aim?

That's crazy. Her obsession with violence. I'm telling you, I do not feel like this is the first time she has played with this gun. Yeah. Like, I truly feel like maybe when this kid was alone or something...

She was fascinated. The fact that your first thought is to go exactly where you know that gun is and have no problem knowing how to use it or anything. Yeah. That's crazy. Like who taught her how to shoot a gun? Yeah. That's just an authority special isn't a little gun. I hate to say it. You have a mentally unstable child in your house and you

openly have a gun just sitting in your nightstand not even a fingerprint safe or something you just open like your kid is cutting themselves has swiss knives is rebellious obsessed with violence and you're like oh i'm just gonna keep my gun over here while my kids on anti-psychotics what yeah no that's a great point but i just the the thought of how accurate she was and to shoot your mother in the face which you had to be looking that is hatred that was

Like, I mean, shoot a foot, shoot a kneecap. Like she straight went in there and was like, I'm about to murder.

murk this bitch and fucking like went in there and shot her straight in her face three times which psychologically you think about it like women are so worried always about like their faces and stuff it was very shocking for me to learn that she shot her in the face i thought maybe heart chest something along those lines um if you truly did want to kill her going for the heart whatever for her to look that woman in the face and

and shoot her yeah is diabolical to me diabolical absolutely um and another thing that hurt me so bad whenever you already know what i'm gonna say it hurt me so bad to see the dogs because it just made me think of like chachi and bussy and like oh my gosh they were so scared they were so stressed out and they didn't know what to do they were scrambling just like oh my god mom is hurt like they didn't know what to do because she's you can hear her screaming it's horrific it's

You guys just trigger warning if you're watching this podcast. If you're over on Patreon watching this video, just it's a lot. You have to be prepared to watch that. Yeah. I mean, it's literally all on camera. And for somebody to be that intelligent, why on earth would you not go snip the cameras first? Yeah. Yeah.

unplug them, unplug the camera, spray paint, hang a towel over, you know, like do something. Literally these cameras, all you have to do is unplug them. Yeah. So that tells me right there that it's a crime of passion because she's not thinking in that moment, she's literally just going straight off of anger and it's just like, you know what? I'm going to kill this woman. That's crazy. So besides the dogs, um, when Carly was done, um,

Killing her mother she walks into the kitchen and grabs her mom's phone off the counter after shooting her mom and then she texts her she's conscious enough to text her stepfather and say You almost home honey to which he replies To which he replies no, I'm gonna be here a little while longer and she texts back with a thumbs up This is where

I, the conspiracy theorist in me has a problem with it. And just because of in lieu of what has happened at the, um, at the trial, um,

I feel, and this is just me having a, you know, conspiracy theorist mind. I feel like that was code word for it's done. The job is done. The job is done. And that's why, because he said, no, I'm going to be here a little while, but then shows up back at home. Not even a little later than he was supposed to. Exactly. It just, something's not adding up. And then when she's done texting, you hear her start singing again.

Just a ballad. Very Jodi Arias of you. I was like, it really reminded me of Jodi Arias because, you know, when Jodi Arias was in the interrogation room, she's like singing and then she's like put on a whole performance for the fucking. Yes. Yeah, it was crazy. So she's like singing a song to herself. Yes. And like she's sitting there.

I mean, this is moments after you just committed a horrendous crime. After you just killed your mom. And she's kind of just like wiggling around. Just, you know, that's where I have a problem with it. I'm like, did you really not feel anything? Because you felt joyous enough to sing. Right. I was not skippity-doo-dah when I had no emotions. Yeah. Like, you're kind of joyously sitting there. Yeah. And she was sort of like...

about it. Yeah. That's sickening. Which makes me another thing which makes me think the stepfather was in on it was because why are you so giddy after texting your stepfather when will you be home honey and you say I won't be home until later and you send a thumbs up and then you start singing. It's like a celebration. It's almost like

she did good. And for him, like a praise in his mind, you know, and I don't know. I don't know. It's just me. Speculation guys, straight up spec, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, this whole thing is alleged. It's alleged. Um, so anyways, after that, after she's done with her little singing bit, she picks up her phone and then she starts texting her friends saying that she's like freaking out. And like, there was an emergency. And of course these kids are young, so nobody has a car.

So, you know, nobody can get to her to help her, but she won't exactly tell them what's wrong. Yeah. It's very like, um, evasive. Yeah. It's very evasive. It's just very like, I don't, it's almost attention seeking. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was looking for. It's like, yeah, I'm not, it's like those people who post on Facebook and it's like, send a prayer for me, but they won't tell you actually what's wrong. I hate that. Yep. Yep. I freaking hate that. That's exactly what it was. All these people were like, what do I, she's not saying what's wrong. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. If I ever post something like that, I'm always like, say a prayer for me. I'll let you guys know what's going on soon. You know? Yeah. Like when I was going through that shit with my dad, cause I didn't have all the answers, you know, but I was just so fucking distraught. Um, but yeah, don't just say you need prayers and then never tell anybody what's going on because you know, in the comments, you're going to get 500 comments and people asking you what the fuck is going on.

So she texts one of her friends who actually is a part of the case who they never said her name because she's underage or whatever, but we'll just call her Bestie. Okay. She texts Bestie and said that, you know, hey, I'm going through something. I need help. So, of course, the girl being a good friend was like, all right, I'm going to have my dad drop me off. So has her dad drop her off over at the house?

And when she walks in, Carly is sitting in the middle of her dogs in the living room crying or sorry, singing, not crying, singing and playing with her fucking dogs. The friend walks in and is like, bro, you told me like this is an emergency. What the hell is going on? And what does Carly say to her? Do you get squeamish around dead bodies?

Bitch, what? Excuse me? Literally, like, are you kidding me? Like, and that's another thing that makes me think, like, how desensitized are you to seeing, like, violent things? Like, what was this kid Googling? What was she playing Dungeons and Dragons? Like, what is happening that this kid is so far removed? Like, she didn't even say, would you get squeamish seeing my mother's dead body? She said, do you get squeamish seeing dead bodies? And the little girl...

Is like, no. And so Carly takes her into the room. Yeah, like a prize. Like a prize. Like literally like a hunting prize and shows this other little girl that she had killed her mom. Now, don't get me wrong. If somebody shows me a dead body, I'm going to fucking freak out on the inside, especially if somebody murdered them.

But at the same time, you have to think of what this little girl's thinking. You know, she's probably like, what in the fuck is going on? While Carly is showing her the body, Carly has the gun in her hand. Has the gun in her hand still. Yes. How terrified this girl must have been. Mm-hmm.

To be not only staring at a dead body, you're staring at the killer too. Well, and she didn't just have the gun in her hand. She literally opens the gun up and says, hey, there was six bullets in here. Sorry, my heart's palpitating. Tries to appetite. She said...

There were six bullets in here. I used three on my mom. I'm going to use three on my stepdad when he gets home. So you can either stay inside or you can go outside and play until I kill my stepfather. Yes. You're just like, this is premeditated though. Like she's planning this out.

It's just crazy to me. And the little girl goes outside and plays. Yes. If I was a little girl and I went outside, my first reaction would be to take off and go get help. So that makes me think that she was just in fear. I think she literally felt like that girl was going to kill her if she went anywhere. Because what do they say? You have fight, flight or fawn. And I think she went into fawn mode. Yeah. I feel really bad for this little girl because like, honestly, that little girl was

Was just trying to be. If you think about it. She's just trying to be there for a friend. Literally. And now she's. Now you're. An accomplice. A crick. An accomplice in a. Almost double homicide. You know. Like an attempted murder. And a murder. Yeah. How terrified. Must you be. And how close is this friend. Like. Does she know the mom. Did you just walk into someone you've met before. Or just like. Oh this is. Well they all went to the same school. I'm assuming. So she had to have known the mom. Yeah. She knew her mom. Yeah. How sad. And the scene. Of having. Three bullets in her face. Come on.

Yeah. Come on. Yeah. It's rough. And she was conscious enough to put a towel over her mom's face because the dad had to remove the towel to see that she was dead. Whenever, you know, we'll get to that part too. But, um, you know, there's just so many things that she did.

That don't make sense. To me, I really feel like this was premeditated. I feel like she's already thought of all these things, but she thought of the wrong things. She thought of, oh, well, I'm a shooter three times. I feel like she knew that.

to shoot her three times and she knew there were six bullets in there and that she would use the rest on i feel like there's so many things that make me think this was premeditated and then the things like not erasing the cameras and things like that make me think it was rage i don't know i'm a 50 50 on this yeah well let's keep talking about it and we'll see how we feel towards the end but um so the friend hears these gunshots carly comes running outside and says run

so this little girl fucking takes off and books it all the way back home and Carly runs two miles away which two miles is a long fucking run dude Carly leaves the friend kind of behind yeah like if you guys watch this because the friend says I heard them like wrestling around wrestling around there was like some kind of struggle she thinks she believes the dad may have been trying to get the gun away from Carly and that the shot that was sent off

There was three shots off, right? Because then she ran out of bullets. Right. Yep. So all three shots go off and the dad isn't dead. Like the stepdad is not dead at this point, but he is hurt. But he put up a fight. Yeah. So from the stepdad's perspective, he said that he opened the door to the house and

And as soon as he opened the door, Carly had the gun to his face and pulled the trigger, but he dodged it. Went like this. And that's why the bullet skimmed his neck like that. And so he's fighting with her, trying to get this fucking gun out of her hand. And the guns are just going off. The gun is just going off because she's just, you know, trigger happy right now. Once she realized that the gun was out of bullets, he said that she...

got this crazy look on her face and like kicked back like she was looking at a demon. He said that she like freaked out and like kicked her legs like she was scared and like backing up like she had seen something crazy and then just fucking took off. So then she meets friend outside and is like, yo, run, run, leaving friend behind. Carly takes off. And let me just say she didn't really totally take off, though. In this video, she just kind of like

well i think she's i think she was just fucking scared stiff dude yeah and the poor friend that's a lot to fucking take on you just saw a dead body you just learned that your friend killed her mother yes you just fucking heard her try to kill her stepfather and now she's telling you to run like you probably think you're next yeah and she of course she runs in the complete opposite direction that carly does yeah yeah friend runs home yeah the friend went all the way back home and like told her parents

So after Carly runs off, he goes to check in on his wife because he thought that there was a robber in the house. He thought that maybe Carly had mistook him for a robber. Like he wasn't thinking in his mind that this is my stepdaughter trying to kill me. Yes. Which, again, I still don't know how much of this I believe. Me either. Because it's like.

you thought that fast to move and to get out of the gun's way. Like, I don't know. What are you fucking a Jackie Chan? Like, come on, dude. A Bruce Lee. Like he's like, wow. Yeah. Like matrix. Yeah. Literally. I don't know. I don't know. I just, something just isn't adding up. But, um, when he went to go check the house, that's when he found Ashley and there was a towel over her face and he removed the towel and saw, you know, that she had been shot in the face and stuff like that.

So when the cops showed up, Heath, that's his name, was still in shock. And police looked over the footage and the security cameras in the house. So they immediately knew what happened because they saw that, you know, Carly had killed her mom. Mm hmm.

And during the investigation, they had a lot of... During the investigation, they had found out that they had a lot of issues in the house, which those issues have not been released. Nobody... It's been a very tight-lipped case, which to me is crazy because you should...

I don't know, present all of the evidence, especially, I guess, you know, in the court of law, you should for sure. But I mean, definitely to the people of the public too, because it's like, you guys are making somebody hate a child. It's kind of like what they did to Lyle and Eric, you know, like they made people hate them, not letting people know how bad the abuse was. I didn't know about how, which we'll get into Lyle and Eric too, but I didn't know how bad the abuse was for Lyle and Eric until recently, you know? So it's like, I don't know. I just feel like,

Not letting people know like what was exactly going on like was she being sexually abused by her stepfather was there physical abuse in the house what else was good was the mom like did the mom find out that the daughter and Heath were having a fucking affair and that's why she put the cameras in the house you know like there's just so many.

What ifs, you know? Yeah. So upon finding out all the problems in the house, you know, they found this stuff made her sound like a spoiled brat, but you know, like she was complaining that her mom had put cameras in the house that she never had privacy that, you know, she, um, wasn't allowed to do things. She wasn't allowed to have social media. And it's like, kid, it was all for a reason because you act like a fucking lunatic. You know, she was also on, they found out during the investigation that she was also on multiple prescriptions and

And, um, she was telling them that she was hearing voices in her head and that, um, they refused to hand over her medical records, which to me, like, wait a second. First of all, you guys are about to come to this.

commit a child into custody of the state for the rest of her life and you don't want to hand over medical records? They're also claiming insanity. That's what they initially came into this case claiming. Well, the defense did, yes. Yeah, like, oh, insanity. We're going to pull insanity and all this kind of stuff. And so the court goes, okay, hand over the medical records where she's clinically insane. And they're like, no. What? What?

Just no. But here's my thing. To be put on antipsychotics, you have to have some sort of, you know, a few grapes short of a fruit salad upstairs. You know what I'm saying? A few tacos short of a taco stand. And the amount of medication she was put on. This recent Lexapro switch. Yeah. There had to be records of this unless there's not.

You know, like why? How would there not be records unless she just really wasn't going to the doctors and somebody was prescribing the medication to her? I mean, we don't know. But why else would you not hand over everything you possibly could to get this child to be tried for insanity? What if it was Heath not wanting to get the records because in the records it talks about the sexual abuse? Again, this is all allegedly. Ooh.

Alleged. This is all alleged. This entire podcast has been alleged. Yeah, literally. We are just making shit up because this is how we feel it is. Yeah, no, I mean, that's a possibility too because if she had been seeing a psychiatrist and told the psychiatrist like, hey, you know... He's touching me. But wouldn't it be like...

The state would have to. I don't know. I don't know how the law works. I'm kind of talking as if I do, but I don't. I don't know. I don't know if a step parent really. I don't I know we don't have a lot of rights as being a step parent. So I'm wondering if this had nothing to do with that or if really they couldn't come up with a case.

Or if it's a HIPAA violation because she's a child, she's underage, and there's nobody there to approve the medical records being released. Yeah, I mean, but she would go into custody. A ward of the state. Yeah. So they would be able to pull. This whole case is crazy to me. The fact that they weren't able to pull any type of... Because here's the thing. Here's my opinion. I do feel like maybe...

What she ended up getting was a little harsh. But at the same time... If you're not going to pull the insanity card...

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Well, let's talk about the trial real quick. So Carly, during all the replays of like her mom, barely even cried.

When did she cry? Showed no emotion at all. But the most emotion that she did show was when her stepfather... The body cams of the stepfather. What the... Which shows me that there's an emotional tie with that man. Something definitely is there because...

You having literal breakdowns. And if you watch like snot pouring from her nose breakdown. Hyperventilating. Yes. Breakdown. Because. Like she felt so much remorse for hurting her stepfather but could care less about her mom. Not at all. You're the mother who fucking is your blood. Yes. Who has raised you also. Like it's crazy to me that. And the way he eyeballs her. And mouths I love you. Like.

First of all, if you killed somebody I supposedly loved and was with for a decade, and then you not only killed her, you shot me too and tried to kill me too. I don't think the words that I would be saying to you are, I love you with a smile, a creepy smile. And the way he just looks at her in court. Yeah, it was so strange. And I saw a couple people in the comments arguing about,

And they were like, well, maybe he just realizes she's a child and you know that she's about to go to prison for the rest of her life. And I'm just like,

if someone tried to kill me i don't give a yeah go to prison like i don't know it just is not adding up it does not make sense and i really feel like the stepfather should be investigated text messages between them pull more of those cameras at the house and see what we can find go back like a year or two well i don't know if they keep a year's worth but at least like prior conversations they had how they interacted with each other on the daily but how'd they interact that morning before they were leaving yeah

During the trial, some of her friends even testified that she was on numerous drugs, too. So you have to think this girl's taken antipsychotics. She's taking Lexapro and she's on various drugs, which we don't know what they are. But especially like in the vapes, you don't know what you're getting these days. No, these kids. Bailey's had kids overdose at her school just from hitting a vape. You know, so it's like you don't know where this girl's mind really was. Yes, she was cold. Yes, she was drunk.

borderline calculated with some of the things she did, but it was also a crime of passion, which makes it so weird. There's like just a smorgasbord of... It's a 50-50 for me. You definitely planned some of it, but in the other sense of it, I'm like...

Are you really that stupid? Yeah. So with all the footage and the testimony, they ended up sentencing her to life in prison for murder without parole, life in prison for attempted murder without parole, plus 10 more years for tampering with evidence.

Which, what's the tampering? Putting the towel over her mom's face? Probably towel and who knows what else. She could have probably, you know. Moved the mom's body or something? Like if she was in there for a while, she definitely was within the crime scene. So she was doing something. Yeah. Yeah. So after her sentencing, the stepfather spoke out.

And he had a statement. So let's read what the stepfather had to say. He said, I am ashamed. I'm embarrassed. I'm angry. I'm upset. And I'm very sad. I loved Ashley Smiley too. We were married for almost a decade. And yeah, he didn't comment about anything else. You would think that he would comment on telling her I love her during marriage.

The trial. Yep. I'm just skimming through this. Yeah. That's all he said. That is so strange to me. Yeah. I would, I am very anxious to see how this plays out. This does play out because there is bound to be more evidence that gets released to the public once all of this becomes public.

I would love to see more about, you know, him taking the stand versus, you know, her taking the stand. He did take the stand. I mean, like, just... It's very interesting what evidence... I want to know what happened... I want to know what happened at home. Like, let's go through those phone records. Yeah. Let's go through those fucking counseling therapy sessions. Yes. Because...

Lyle and Eric Menendez confided in their therapist about the rapes and stuff like that. But she didn't go to therapy for long. It literally says that she went very temporarily and then the mom never followed back up on it. Yeah. So do we think that the mom never followed back up on it or did Carly reveal something that the mom didn't like? That's true too. You never know. Speculation. Pure speculation. But yeah. There you have it ladies and gentlemen. The story of Carly Gregg.

How do you feel about her sentencing? You know, at first when I first heard it, I still don't think that she should get life. I think that she's a really messed up child, you know, and I think that she's just going to be another fucking statistic. But, you know, it's crazy because then it's like.

Can somebody like that be rehabilitated? No, I do feel like she should be within some type of cap, not captivity. Cut that. Some type. Leave it in. I thought it was hilarious. Well, I mean, that's what I feel. I feel she needs some sort of supervision. Yes. The rest of her life, you know, like there's a chemical imbalance in there that I don't believe can be fixed. I feel like she's going to come out with the truth in like a year or two.

I think she's going to come forward and be like, yes, I was molested. Yes, we were having a fair. Yes, he fucking helped me. The minute he moves on, it's all coming out. The minute he moves on. It's all going to come out. And leaves her in there and doesn't pay her fucking commissary or something. It's going to be crazy, dude. Yep. Something's going to be her trigger, like this murder was, and she's going to just give it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I agree. What are you guys' thoughts at home on this entire case? Let us know in the comments. And also, yeah, let's, um, I'm looking forward to doing more of these. This is my favorite month. Happy October, guys. I know. Happy freaking October, babies. All right. You ready to go watch daddy bring the house down? Let's go. All right. We got to go. We got a show to do, babies. Love you guys. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye. Bye.