#72 Dumb Blonde: Jelly Roll - New Album, C*ckstar, & Embarrassing Stories
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What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to the new Dumb Blonde Unrated.

We have moved platforms, baby. And we only did that for your viewing pleasure because we want to get raunchier. We want to get dirtier. We want nudity. We want fucking all sorts of weird shit happening and YouTube won't allow it. So welcome. Welcome. We're so happy you're here. And of course, the first person I had to have on the podcast whenever we were moving is none other than Zaddy Soros Rex. Yeah.

Hey, hey, hey. This is awesome. What's up, daddy? I always love doing this, man. It's like fucking bringing a little piece of our...

private relationship banter into the public yeah absolutely i mean whatever we have that's private because i mean we're pretty fucking uh out there you're a cock star now my pecker's on the internet let's paint the town red baby so let's talk about the album you just dropped yeah self-medicated it's uh

It's awesome, dude. I really, I don't know what to say. It's just well-received. It was 18 songs. It was longer than any project I've ever done. So that was different for me. But we had just so many, like quarantine. I wrote so many songs.

At the beginning of quarantine, we were like, what the fuck are we going to do? And we literally sat down as a family and we were like, okay, this is what we need to do to survive. We need to pump out content and just change the directory. And like quarantine really motivated you to fucking just flip them. It definitely. I mean, I always pump out a lot of music, but quarantine and the pandemic was just like, man, you know, it's just scary. So you just, you just work. How many videos did you drop with this album?

This is like a new rollout. They gave me the count the other day and I forgot. It was like seven or nine. God, I thought it was like 13 for sure. Yeah, definitely high. But I mean, you pretty much definitely dropped over 20 this year. 20 something this year. Yeah. It's been a crazy year for me.

You ever felt like you had to sneeze and you're just like, I wish that motherfucker would hurry up. Yes. It's been happening for three minutes fucking straight. I mean, it's like, welcome to dumb blonde. I'm over here. Like if you stick your finger up your butt, I think talking about it, just I'm never sticking. I wouldn't stick a Q tip up my ass. I wish. Never. I have a new friend. But it's gone now. So I talked it away. But I mean, it was rough, dude. I was sitting here talking to you about the pot, the album going.

Should I tell everybody what my new fantasy for you is? No. Well, I'm going to anyways. So my new fantasy for daddy is I always go through these like phases of fantasies with him because he tells me. They're fucking whack.

He tells me no to everything I fantasize about. So I was thinking this one wouldn't be too bad. He said, I got a maybe for my birthday. So that gave me a little fucking glimmer of hope. And I'm just like, oh my God, I want him to lay on his tummy and I want to pour baby oil all over his ass and his back. And then I want to fucking get on top of it and just slide around.

I'm literally going to feel like a fucking manatee. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

It's like I'm going to feel like an orca. Just all laid down. Just all lubed up. Fucking just mad. A lubed up orca. Oh my God. Nothing about it sounds good. Oh, it sounds like heaven to me. Chachi agrees. Chachi is with the shits. Okay. He is totally with it. All right. Let's get back to this album. Let's talk about some of the tracks that you have on there. What would your favorite track be?

I am. I'm like a guy who has a new favorite track on the record all the time. Yeah. Like two weeks ago, it was dance with ghost. And I think this week is one more ride. Yeah. I like, um, 5am. Oh, I love the hook on that. Like, just love it. Yeah. I love the Mercury's came in and just really wrapped to. Oh yeah. Text me after he said the verse was like, was that too rappy? I was like, no, it's exactly what the song. Oh, let's talk about fucking save me.

Wow. Whoa. Have we done a podcast in Save Me? I don't remember. Have we? Did we talk about it? Thank you, Manager Mimi. Let's talk about it again. Yeah, it never gets old. I mean, you're at like 40 million now, right? 50 million streams across all platforms. 22 million on YouTube alone.

Crazy. 25 million streams away from a gold record. Oh my God, baby. I think about that every day. So please, if you've watched it, watch it. If you guys. One million more times a piece, everybody. Listen, if you guys get daddy a gold record, we will release a porn fucking in front of that gold record. Yes, I agree completely. On OnlyFans. And I'm going to do everything y'all would. Stream away, babies. I'll do everything y'all expect my white trash ass to do with that gold record. We will fuck in front of it. I will.

snort lines off of it. It is fucking, we are going to do it right. Yeah. No, I remember he sent me that song and I was just like, what did I say? I forgot. I was just like, that's it. That's the one. I wish I could remember what your language was because D-Ray uses it all the time. Oh, I was like, are we just shitting on people now? I forgot what it was. Oh yeah, we're shitting on them or something. Yeah. I was like, yeah, that's it. So D-Ray was like, anytime your wife says that, we can get that song out ASAP.

It was just as soon as I heard it, I was like, this is what everybody's been waiting for. It was good, man. I feel like my goal is to always make music that not only helps people, but touches on subjects without being tacky. Right. Right. So like, cause I never want to be like a trending topic rapper. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? But it's like, I want to do stuff that,

touches on real life stuff without being as cliche of being like, you know. And over, like a lot of artists will, it's, it's repetitive, you know, like the same sound, same lyrics. I'm always weird about trying to make sure that the sound is different. Yeah, absolutely. Sometimes the lyrics are different, but sometimes the content stays in the same realm, but that's also just who I am as a human, you know? Yeah. So,

It's different, man. It's definitely what I'm trying to do. What about Promise? What was your thoughts on it? I love it. I love it, too. It was for me and Jack's rock project. No, I love it. Remember? We hadn't talked about this publicly, but Jack Fowler and I are working on a rock project. Jack Fowler's from Sleeping With Sirens. Yep, with Andrew Bayliss is producing it. He's downstairs right now. But Andrew Bayliss is producing the record, and that song...

was one of the first ones we cut for that album. And I just called him and was like, yo, please let me put this on self-medicated. Yeah. I was like, this song is like so jelly roll, but so rock. Oh, so good. Please, please, please. And shout out to Allie.

Fucking we love you, Allie, over at Spotify's rock playlist. She playlisted us. First time I ever got put on an actual Spotify curated playlist ever. So that was really cool, man. So, I mean, it was definitely barrier breaking for me. The video that you guys did with just the visuals. Oh, yeah. Iconic. Dude, I called Don. Don's on the other side of the room. Don. I called Don like that morning. We were all sitting here and I was like, yo, meet me at the office. We all got here at noon. And at noon, I was like, listen, y'all.

I want to drop this video next week instead of this video. And they said, what video? I'm like, promise. We don't have a video for promise. I was like, I know we should show it today. I know. I was in Vegas. I was so mad. They were like, what? I was like, yeah. And we just all started like brainstorming.

I just had two simple ideas. I was like, we need to break something and we need to catch roses on fire. That's all I had. And next thing you know, how Def calls and he finds a bunch of TVs and Don and me go find barrels to burn and fucking get roses. And we were like, we should get some drums and patch them on. This is starting to turn it up. How fast can we come up with shit to catch on fire? Yeah.

But what an iconic shot, though, that you guys got of you with the roses burning. Like, that was just like, dude, that's timeless. I told Don that probably by default he's got my favorite picture maybe ever.

Absolutely. Just, I mean, we have a painting of it in our fucking house now. Like that image is burned in other people's minds. That's how iconic it is. You know, it's just one of those things that just happens by accident that literally just catches. It's, I told somebody the other day that I really believe the picture sold the video. Oh, for sure. Absolutely. In hindsight, the mistake we might've made even was the thumbnail on the video is me tossing a single rose into a barrel. And we should have just used that picture of me holding them fucking dozen roses.

You can always change it. Yeah. You can always change the thumbnail. Let's talk about loneliness with Ritz. Loneliness is all I've ever known. And then let's talk about the video too because the video was great. Like you really came up with some really cool videos. Yeah, no, dude. The team has been more together than ever. Like we finally got a full team. Firing on all cylinders. Shout out to Ryan Hood, High Definition, Jonathan Craig, Awesome Don. It's definitely...

group effort. Yeah. So they had a lot of good ideas and the coolest thing about Loneliness was they pulled it off without me and Ritz being together. Right. But it looks just like you guys are together. Exactly. It looks tone wise it's all set so perfect and with it being a Loneliness song I thought it would have been corny for us to be rapping together anyway. Yeah. So I just thought it was a really cool play and you know quarantining and not being able to do shows. There were so many little tiny what do you call them innuendos? Innuendos. Innuendos there that were like

to what we were doing with the state of life, you know? Oh, absolutely. The mannequins and shit. The only thing that was wrong with it was, not wrong, but somebody's perception was once like, I bet that's how he feels when he performs. And it's like, absolutely not. No. I feel like I'm in a room full of family when I perform. Yeah, you're on fire when you perform. It was just like, it was trying to convey the message that no matter where you're at in your life, you feel like you're alone. There's always some dickhead who has to mistranslate something. Yeah, it just totally takes it like,

Takes it left. Yeah. I feel like I'm performing to my cousin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I'm on stage. Exactly. Which is why. And anybody that's been to a jelly roll show knows that you are like so warm and just loving. You will perform for two hours, drink two bottles of fucking tequila and then go and stand in

in line while people literally the entire fucking you know uh what do they call them the entire fucking people that come to see you the entire venue literally comes to meet you and you shake everybody's hands one by one the crowd you take every shake everybody's hands one by one sign their autographs take their pictures kiss their babies fucking i mean it's literally we've stayed after like three hours on shows before oh yeah and i get mad

I'm just kidding. I don't get mad. I'm just like, how does he do it, dude? You don't get mad no more. You just leave me. See you back at the room.

I love you so much, baby. I'm like the worst first lady ever. I love it. I love people. No, you really do. And Ritz, I mean, you can't go wrong with Ritz. The motherfucker opens his mouth and he's just a lyrical assassin. Yeah, yeah. I love that he came in with the same cadence of the hook. Yeah. No, he just literally. The second half of the hook when he came. I need faith these days. Yeah. That tip point.

I don't really care about the damn shit no more. Yeah, I think you guys feed off of each other too. You guys always have a good vibe. Yes, my buddy. I love Ritz. Let's talk about dances with ghosts. Only dance with ghosts. It's great.

The video's almost at 2 million. We talked about it today. Yeah. It's the second fastest growing video on the album besides Snowballs. I knew. I told you it was going to do that. I wish I had dropped it earlier. I told you. I wish I had dropped it earlier. I said my exact words to you were, this is one of those videos that snowballs. Yeah. And you were like, no. Yeah. I guess it is. No, no. I mean, it did everything that you said it would. It's incredible. The video's just insane. Yeah. It was really cool that you got Viking Barbie and Kata to come out. That was really cool.

Shout out Bacon Barbecue K-Dog. We'll talk about them in a second. That was another situation where I'm glad we get to talk about shit like that because people don't get credit for what really made the video dope. Yeah. Our location fell through the day before the video. Yep.

Ed Clay let us use the East Ivy Mansion on like six hours notice. Oh, yeah. No, literally. You know, and it's like just perfect timing for that. You know what I mean? Shout out, Ed. Ed's just awesome. Lifelong friend. Check out Ed's podcast, too. Yep, yep. I bust his balls. But he just didn't hesitate. Yeah. He just immediately was like, yeah, man, cool. I got something going on, but I'll clear it right now. Let me call him. Call and get them rescheduled. Yep.

So it's like, shout out to Ed for that. And of course the whole team was just, we just had a great, a great run there. Yeah, no, it was awesome. What inspired the song? Mama. I was telling somebody the other day when I wrote Dance With Ghosts, I was like, I wrote a song about us when we first got together, like our love, you know, wheels fall off and,

I've always wrote love songs, but they've always been kind of like dark and twisted. And they've always been about the progression of our love, like down to Johnny and June on the same album. Yeah, we'll talk about that next. I was like, I never wrote a song about the woman I met, like before love. Like I never wrote a song about that before love, like before like, you know, marriage, like who was the woman I met?

It's like, how do you encapsulate that in a record? And then that's where Dance With Ghost came from. Mama was a hustling whore. Yeah. She was a wild motherfucker. I still am. I'm just, you know, very toned down. Had to tone it down for marriage. But it's a good thing because I would have fucking probably been toothless by now. Oh, we're not getting younger neither. I know. He always tells me that. He's like, bitch, how wild are you going to be when you're fucking 84? Like, come on. Calm the fuck down.

Yeah, Viking Barbie and Kata. Let's move on to them really quick. We are you, us, the whole team is pretty much helping them get their first album out. Yeah, we're producing music on Viking Barbie and Kata. It's incredible. Super excited for you guys to hear this shit. Dude, I just hope that like, I'm going to tell this part of the story until I'm blue in the face with everybody who will listen, but it was the music.

But it had nothing to do with the internet presence. Oh, absolutely not. It had more to do with the personal story when I got to know him. Because you hit me about Barbie a while ago. A year ago. You should check this out. And I was like, yeah, whatever. And I never really did because I knew the online thing. And I was like, I don't know if that's even something that's... Can correlate together. Yeah, I don't know how that would work. You know what I mean? So, and then when you started telling me like, no, man, they've got like a crazy story. And I was like, really? And then you told me a piece of their story. And then I got to sit down with the girls and...

You're talking about two full-blown drug addicts. Heroin addicts. Like real deal drug addicts. Kata still has track marks in her room. She's only been sober almost a year. Yeah, I mean, you're talking about real deal drug addicts, right? And it's like, I write music so based on people who go through any kind of struggle that I was like, damn, that's crazy. And then overcoming that and then becoming who they are, you know what I mean? It's like conquering the lane that Viking Barbie has and...

building the presence and the machine that she's built over there and the way she creates content. And it's just like, man, I was impressed by that, but way more impressed by it knowing that you fucking literally was shoving needles in your arm and shooting heroin like,

And then I think it was you or her that showed me her before and after picture. Like you like her fucking jail picture. Yeah. And then her, her picture. I was like two totally different bitches. It's crazy. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, today is her actually five year sobriety mark. Oh dope. I need to hit her up. Yeah. But it's like, you know, you look at shit like that and go, damn, that's fucking almost weird. Yeah.

And I just hope that people that listen to Jelly Rolls music don't look at these two girls and go, what the fuck does that got to do? And it's like, because they have people, our kind of people have so much more in common with them than they don't. Yeah, than they think they do. You know what I mean? So it's like, that's the message I want to get out about the girls. It's like,

Don't judge a book by its cover. Read the book before you judge. Period. Yeah. Listen, and they're also fucking like amazing writers. Yeah, they're great. No, the music's great.

Great for where they are. Right. Right. And it's only going to get better. Right. Which is why when we sat down with him, I was like, I want to do it, but I don't want to do an album. I want to like really work. Let's commit to the doing this for a couple of years and seeing, you know, let's grow. Yeah. Because it's like knowing that I don't, I don't want to put a date on it. Cause you know, Barbie's Barbie will be like, no, but you know, I'm thinking, I don't know. It's been a year or two that she's even been fucking with music.

music at all. You know, from a girl who literally had no musicality in her 26 months ago to the kind of music she's doing right now and singing. Yeah, it's like, you know, I think that's

a testament just as to more of their personality. And that's the story I want to get out. You know, and I think once that story- Kata too, her voice is phenomenal. Yeah, and in essence- She gives Christina Aguilera a run for her money. Yeah, Kata's one of the most talented people I've ever worked with as far as like just raw. Yeah. Yeah, it's almost so raw- She would cry hearing you say that. Yeah, no, it's insane. It's almost so raw that you gotta-

It's almost hard to even caps put it, put it, put it in. She's like a beautiful wild horse that runs on the beach. Yeah. And it's like, it's like, you don't know if you should contain it or if I can ride it. Right. Exactly. She's, she's just got a raw talent. Yeah. They've got a cool thing. Yeah. And I like the way they work with each other. Yeah. We're super excited for you guys to hear what we've been cooking up behind the scenes. So for that, and I got to direct three videos. You got three videos. Yes.

Did you get to see? Not today? Yeah. Yeah. I have a, we have a lot of notes on it, but yeah. Sure. But yeah. As expected. Yes, for sure. All right. Let's move on to Johnny and June.

Yeah, I talked about it a minute ago. It's our love song. No, you didn't talk about it. You just touched on it. And I said, we'll talk about that in a second. We talked about dances with ghosts. I'm a big fan of it. Super cute video. You know, my thing was, I was always, the quote is, when they asked Johnny Cash what he thought heaven would look like or what his idea of paradise was,

he said this morning on the porch having coffee with her and he was talking about Jim and I'm like what a crazy fucking thing like what a great way to look at love you know and it's a love story that I felt like ours resembled you know

And I wanted people to see that side of our love story. Because, like, they think we're more. That's why I said Mickey, Mallory. And that's why I said Bonnie and Clyde. Because we get looked at that way. Yeah. And I think we resemble more, you know, Johnny and fucking Jane. You know what I'm saying? We're very constructive. We love being compared to toxic couples. That's awesome and all. But we literally have just built each other up so much being together. And that, I don't think enough couples talk about that, you know.

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Oh, and ditto. Seriously.

So I don't think people get to see that side of us because we talk about it, but we just touch base on it. We don't ever really go in depth about it. Yeah, we're more humorous about it than sincere. Yeah, because we're more sincere. Yeah, for sure. Better Off Alone with Mackenzie Nicole. Great record, man. She's got a great voice. I think she found her niche doing rock, though. If Mackenzie did rock, I think it would go for her. I think she's got the kind of voice she can do whatever she wants. Yeah. She's just got such a broad range.

She's a cool story of like, she's finding herself now too. Yeah. You know, like from her first album to her most recent record. Yep. And to what I'm sure she's writing now is just continues to get more impressive to me. Like, you know, a lot of people, once again, the internet was like, this must've been a favor for Travis. Travis did not ask. I called Travis. Yeah.

I've got a record. Me and you talked about it. I think I should get Mackenzie on this record. Yeah. And I knew it needed a female voice. I didn't like the way my voice sounded on the hook. You know, it just didn't sound right to me. And I was like, yo, man, let's get Mackenzie on this record. You know, and plus I know that her dealing with the mental health stuff and her being a big mental health advocate, that she would probably feel the record. You know what I mean? And it's like, dude, what people don't get about Mackenzie is like I just said about Barbie and Kata. Yeah.

Well, Katie's been doing it a lot longer, but like with Barbie, it's like Mackenzie is young as fuck. Oh, baby, baby. Like, I don't think she's old enough to drink or she might have just turned 21. She might have just turned 21. Yeah, she's young. Yeah, she's young, young. You know what I mean? So it's like, dude. The internet can be so fucking cruel. I can only imagine. What?

Which she's going to be at 28. 31. Yeah. 10 years from now. Exactly. I was thinking like, give her a decade. Yeah. And just fucking. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like. And it's also growing up in strange music. Yeah.

You know, it's got to be hard trying to find your place in that world. Oh, yeah, for sure. Tech is a fucking, you know, just an icon in his own right. And then, you know, you got Chris over there. You got other artists. And, you know, here comes the princess of the... She's got an uphill battle because people are going to be like, oh, she's daddy's girl, you know? She's the only girl, exactly. But she's really talented. Really talented. Like, the girl is just... And she's super fucking smart, too. Yeah, and she's sweet. Yeah. Like, you know, when they took Personal Story...

Chisel died right before we went to the AFC conference. I was supposed to meet Chisel there. Me and Chisel and Bailey and Chisel's girl were going to go to the game together. So I said, well, cool, man. I got the tickets. I've already got the tickets. So just let me know when you're ready. And of course, he died like a week before that.

So I called Travis and said, Travis, man, I can't come. You know, I just, I feel there's a side of me that feels like I should go to honor it for him. But you know, his funeral was like Tuesday. It was the week of your birthday. I was like, I just, I don't feel right coming up there, but I really still want my daughter to go. I'm going to send my niece with her.

And Cheyenne, and I've got an extra ticket left over too, you know, could you just make sure they're okay? And Travis was like, absolutely. We'll do one better. We'll pick them up from the hotel room and take them ourselves. So Travis and Mackenzie took Bailey and Kayla to the football game, sat, you know, X amount of rows over from them.

They met between each quarter, met at the halftime, and left together. You know what I mean? And that was just so cool. That means so much to us because that was such a rough time. Such a rough time. And Bailey didn't even know about the chisel situation, so it helped get her out of the house so we could handle business. So we were just like, you know, and it was just cool that that, I just think that, you know, and Bailey just sings Mackenzie's praise. Yeah. It's like a bigger sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's so sweet. Yeah. I hope that would fire Bailey up too.

Yeah. We're going to get McKenzie on the podcast too soon. We'll get McKenzie on the podcast soon so people can get to know her story too because I think that's really important. Yeah. The other side of the story. Yeah. Because the internet only knows, you know. Right. Her dad's a very successful CEO. Get her side where she's a huge advocate for bipolar awareness and just, you know, she's gone through some shit. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll get her on here to talk.

Let's talk about Still My Hero with Savannah. Oh, what a great song. It's my girlfriend. We flirt all day. Yeah. So Bravo sent me that song November last year. Yeah. Like literally. Shout out, Bobby.

It's soon. It's right after he started back making music. And he's like, yo, I got a record for you. I was like, shoot it on over. So he shot it over. You know, his father died a few years before my father died. We always had that in common. But we also had our relationship with our fathers in common. Like I used to see Bobby's dad all the time over at, over at his house with his mother, you know, and he'd always see dad over at our house. It was like kind of cool thing. And then when we were getting ready to,

I did the Savannah song and Kate never could. And Bobby was, I was like, yo, why don't,

Savannah re-sing that chorus because Bobby was singing on his album. I was like, we'll make it a remix and we'll just throw it on self-medicated. Yeah. And Bobby was like, fuck yeah. Because, you know, Bobby is like, I don't like, I'm sure they don't mind me saying this. He's like the brainchild behind that whole thing. Oh, yeah, for sure. So it's like, Bobby was just like, didn't hesitate. He was like, yeah, dude, absolutely. And I thought it was cool that Savannah didn't have a problem. Yeah. Yeah, y'all flirt online all day.

all day and I got to meet her down there for the video shoot. Trying to bring her home with us. She's sweet. Actually, I think she wants to come home with us. Yeah. No, no. She's too young. But she's a... Whatever. She's like McKenzie's age. Is she really? Yeah, she's young. No, she's 24. I don't think so. Oh, I think so. I've done my research. Okay. Well, I thought she was like McKenzie's age. No, no. She's... I'll tell you this. She's fucking taller than that light bulb.

It's all right. The longer the legs to wrap around your face, daddy. Sorry, Adam. We're going to steal your girl. I love the little thing that her and Adam Calhoun have. I talked to her about it the other day. I was like, this shit is fucking hilarious. She's like, I know. Right. Uh, with her and Adam, how she's always like my baby, Adam is so funny. Yeah, I know. And I think it's just internet. Yeah. Internet shit, which I think is even cold. Yeah. I think Adam's just fucking a sweetheart. Yeah. You know what I mean? He probably wouldn't want me to use that word,

that word for him. He's a funny sweetheart. Big old teddy bear. Outside of his, argh, you know, public thing he does. Like, you know, he's the kind of guy that, you know, you call and have a real conversation with. He's a good guy. Yeah, yeah. And you guys have, actually. I hear you guys talk all the fucking time. I think what's really cool about this album is just like with every album that you always do, you brought in Starlito, you brought in Cushy, you brought in Lex Top Dollar. Yes, yes. Like, you always honor Nashville. Yeah, yeah. It's important, man. It's like, we're not...

We're not a big hip-hop scene. So the little scene we got has always been important to me to make sure we included it. You know, Star put me on his last record. I love Star Lito. I haven't even met Star. Oh, dude, you'll love him. As long as we've been together, yeah. He's the best, too. Crazy, right? He's such a good guy. I texted him last night. He's having a rough week, man. Big Rick and Rasheed both died this week, and they were really close to Star. So I hit Lito. I was like, you good, Bubba?

I love you, man. God, 2020 sucks. Yeah, just fucking shitty years. Like, jeez. But he put me on the record because he's a, I can talk about it. He wouldn't know that he never did want anybody to talk about it, but he's very open about it. He's a new father. Yeah. And he's got a little girl. Oh. And he loves being a girl, Dad. It's like his thing. You know what I'm saying? He's about to get paid back. Yeah, well, he didn't put music out for like a year and a half or two years. He called it paternity leave.

He just was like, literally was like, that's why he called us out when he came back, fraternity. He was like, nah, dude, I just wanted to focus on the baby, you know? So it's really cool, man, that we got on the song, Me, Him and Don trip, which was special too because they don't feature

on many songs because they're a group called the Step Brothers. So it was cool that I got to get both of them per Lito. And then I got Lito on that record the same night he was at the studio. You know, it just, one thing I love about Star is I call Star and it's no hesitation. Yeah.

you know struggle too i just noticed you got a struggle on the album too of course i mean i mean i literally hit star up and i'm like man i'm at the studio tonight man can you swing through he's like yeah i'll be there 11 o'clock with his old typical show up at midnight nighttime night owl crawler but yeah he shows up yeah we got struggle so the cool thing about that song was

Waylon and Willie 4, which I talked to Struggle about on text yesterday. Yeah, everybody's asking, can they have Waylon and Willie 4 for Christmas? Just sit still, man. Santa might show up, baby. Santa might show up. But that was one of the songs that was on Waylon and Willie 4. And I was like, I don't want to put the record out without Struggle because I hate dropping music without them. So I was like, I'm going to just take this one and put it on there. Yeah. That's what I did.

Struggle didn't care. I'm sure. I didn't give a shit. I don't even think I told him. I think he just seen it when the track list came out. He was like, hey, that's our song. He was like, all right, dope. You know what I'm saying? And then newcomer Ryan Nelson. I don't think you've ever talked publicly about Ryan Nelson yet. Have you? No, he's like with the Viking Barbie and Kata thing. He's another artist at work. So right now it's Ryan Nelson, Viking Barbie, Kata,

Kata and change music, which is David Manning and humble me. Pastor Manning, Pastor David. And, uh, Pastor Manning always told us that we were going to be something. Yeah. Ever since the beginning. Yeah. He's like, you guys are a force. I talked to him today too. He, uh,

Excuse me. I ate right before I walked up here and it's like I'm tasting everything. As long as you're not shitting your pants and farting, it's fine. No, I had only one ounce. If I do, I'll be sure to move the mic and make sure the world catches up. You won't have to move the mic. Well, Simmons and Jess are made for her fart farting. He farts like foghorn leghorn. They're great too. They're so relieving. No, they're not. You should try it every morning. We had sex this morning and literally he's laying there naked right after and it's just like, no filter. He knocked the fart out.

don't act like i didn't catch you rip one that one time when you thought i wasn't there when you could tell you've been holding it forever no one time no you farted one time in the truck and i smelled it i didn't hear it but

Another time. Whoever smelt it, dealt it. Another time you thought I'd left the room or something. And it was like a movie. Never. You were like, oh, he's gone. And you fucking, you let one clap, dude. It was listening.

Listen, this is his way of, my husband deflects. This is the truth. He's a deflector. No, this is real. You farted so, it was like, you know how you see the commercials or the movies where a girl's like, oh, I can finally let one rip and it's like they've been holding it for a year. I mean, dude.

Dude, that thing was like three of mine combined. Listen, I don't get. It was thunderous. I don't get fluffs out much, but when I do, it's like the lowest baseline that you could ever fucking listen to. Another time, he was in the bathroom. He's such a liar. Now he's lying. No, no. You remember this meme he was saying. Listen, he was in the bathroom. Now you're bringing meme in on this shit? No, listen. You was in the bathroom. Y'all were doing your hair. And I walked out of the bathroom, right? So you said, I'll leave.

I said, is he gone? He said, yeah. He said, good. Now I can shit. And I turned and poked my head back in. You remember this? Y'all were all in the bathroom. She said, well, now you know how we talk when you're not around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about how you shit on the side of the road. All the time. We talked about that in the last podcast. Oh, no, you just did it. Yeah.

You just did it again. I shit on the side of the road monthly. It happens all the time. And I'm like, baby, what do you wipe with? And he's like, anything I can grab. And he's like, I just leave it on the side of the road. What are you going to do? Ball it up, throw it in your car? I don't know. I have no idea. All right. All right. So back to Ryan Nelson. You hear her. Let's talk about how you shit on the side of the road. All right.

All right. Let's get back to Ryan Nelson. So Ryan Nelson is a new artist that you're bringing in. Yes. I always say we, cause it's ours. So that we're bringing in. Um, and he's amazing. He's a country singer. Yeah. He's a country singer. I'm crying laughing. I'm literally in tears. Um, he's a country singer. He's from Jacksonville, Florida. He's been in Nashville doing the singer songwriter thing for a while. Matt Wallace found him. Matt Wallace, uh,

has got a long history of picking acts that work. Yeah. Like,

From Luke Combs to Riley Green to Muscadine Bloodline. He gets in early and knows who's actually going to do something big. Absolutely. So when Matt finally came to me like, I got a country guy we should work with. I was like, I feel like every time you've ever said that it worked out really well. Yeah. Even Jordan Fletcher, you know. Yeah. Tyler Ray Holbrook. You know, I can just keep naming them. And he was like, his name's Ryan Nelson. I met Ryan.

And what attracted me to Ryan is what makes me hate him. Right? He is... He's just like you. He's just like me. He is a loose fucking cannon. Yeah, he's a live wire. He shows up to video shoots unprepared, hungover, and fucking drunk still. You know what I'm saying? He fucking...

he is just, he's the guy that you see at the bar and you look at him early in the night and go, that dude's going to either get kicked out of here or leave with the prettiest girl in the bar. I don't know which one yet, but it's one or both, but it's going to happen. Right. This is who this guy is. You know,

And because I just love him for that. Yeah. And his music's real authentic to who he is. He has that like, that voice is like a thumbprint. Yeah, he's got a real good voice. Yeah. It's like, it's not that it's a great voice. It's like mine. It's not that he's a great singer. It's just. It's just got his own sound. It's signature. Yeah, that voice signature. You hear it a few times and you can pull it, you can recognize him out of a group of people. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, that's fucking Ryan Nelson. Yeah. He is just all go. Yeah. You know, he reminds me of our brother Alexander King. Yes. Like he's,

a million miles an hour in no particular direction. Right. Just a hot air balloon. He's a pinball. Yeah. You know what I mean? So every now and you just got to, you just got to grab it. It reminds me of like, you know, I'm a big men in black movie fan. Yeah. Remember, did y'all ever see Men in Black, Mimi? Do you ever see it? Do you remember the part where Will Smith and them or whatever, he hit the one thing that he let out and it pinged around and cut the lights off and the dude finally caught him. It was like, don't fucking touch. You know, it's gonna be like, that's like me with Ryan Nelson and Alexander King. I'm like chasing around like, oh,

They're coming this way. I might catch them. I'll sit them down and record a goddamn song. Yeah. But yeah, no, he's great, man. He's so talented. Getting him on Too Far was so cool. It was just dope. He's fucking awesome. Last but not least, you got fucking Manager Matt on a song. I got Matt on Overdose. Matt is, Manager Matt is a.k.a. Still Matthews. And it's two different people. We treat it that way. Yes.

Yeah. He's like Beyonce when Sasha Fierce and Beyonce, when Beyonce becomes Sasha Fierce, that's, that's fucking Matt with Steel Matthews. He's a manager and he's a business guy and he's a CPA and he's all business, but he's got this creative spirit. Yeah. It's kind of what got me into Matt was not just him rapping or writing songs was just like, I was tired of managers that exploited artists.

Yeah. That didn't know anything about art. Right. And not just managers for me, like managers in general are typically just business dudes who don't give a fuck about art and exploit art. I like Mimi. She does hair to me. That's art. Yeah. I've watched her do make Bailey's hair look like six, nine, six, nines. You feel me? Yeah. It's like, that's crazy that that's a skill set. That's like an artistic. No, it is. It's like managers. She's like Picasso. Yeah. Managers are normally,

just dudes who are there to explore your art. They're just like, how can I sell your art? Right. You know, they have no appreciation for it or the hustle, you know, the, the, the, yeah, any of it. Right. And it's like, it's really cool that, you know, Matt can play the guitar. Matt can play the fucking saxophone. Matt can play the bass. Yeah. Matt can program beats. Matt can write a song by himself. You know what I mean? Like the dude is, the dude's talented. Yeah. And more than, more than a car, he can play a little piano. I mean, it just kind of, you know,

So he's got an artist mindset. Yeah. But mixed with the fact he is a CPA. Yeah. So he understands business and money. So it's just cool. In other words, we love our little fire crotch. Yeah. So when I have a weird idea that's like, yo, man, I want to do this and whatever, and it's like it's not going to make money, he can appreciate the art side of it. Yeah. Because I don't really give a fuck about it.

Yeah, I know. You know, money comes and fucking goes. It's like catching on fire or whatever. It's not going to be here anyway. You've always had a horse show up your ass though. Somehow money has just always followed you because you have that whole thing where you're like, I don't want it. And it's like, oh no, no, no. It wants you. I just don't care. I just don't chase money. Yeah. I just want to be comfortable and I am. So it's like, it's cool. As long as I'm comfortable, I can create. I think the album's fucking great. I love it.

Thank you. When are you dropping a new one? When do we start working on a new one? What's next for old Jelly Roll? Talked to DeRay last night for about an hour. So Thursday, we're getting back in the studio. Taking it slow. I got the Jack project teed up anyways. I just got to do vocals pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to start really heavily writing here in the next couple of weeks. I'm excited. The cool thing is I'm not in a rush. I'm going to take my time with this one, even visually. Can Mama get on a track? If you're ready. I've been ready. I hear you say that all the time. Whatever. You don't actually show up. I mean, I hate the studio. It's a big part of getting on a track. But I don't want to just come and hang out in your session. You got to come and soak up the vibe.

All right, well, we'll figure that out. I love you so much. Thank you for coming on my podcast for the 546th time. I'll be here the 547th time. I'm ready and excited. I love you. I love you.

Everybody, you know where to find Joliet. Do you want to shout out where they can find you in case they don't? Yeah, just look me up. Well, don't look him up on OnlyFans, though. He does sing and rap and does a whole bunch of other shit, too. Thank you guys for tuning in to the new Dumb Blonde Unrated. I can't wait to get wild and crazy with you guys the more we're on here. And I will see you guys soon. Bye. Tata!